Camping Trip Recap & Summer Routine

Summary

Cate & Ty Break It Down

Episode: Camping Trip Recap & Summer Routine
Date: July 1, 2026
Hosts: Catelynn and Tyler Baltierra
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Episode Overview

This episode offers an intimate look into Catelynn and Tyler's recent family camping adventure in Michigan and their approach to summer routines with their kids. The couple reflect on simple joys, the pressures of social comparison, parenting philosophies, and candidly discuss their own upbringings and marriage. The latter half explores societal double standards around girls’ clothing, body image, and self-expression, sparking a thoughtful conversation about modern parenting, modesty, and gender norms.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Summer Routines & the Nighttime Recording Shift

• [00:01] Cate notes they’re recording at night now since their daughter has mostly given up naps, highlighting how parenting routines change in summer.
  • “It's summertime now so we always have to record at night time...she only takes a nap, usually now these days, rarely ever.” – Catelynn, [00:12]

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2. Family Camping Trip Recap

• Michigan Camping Memories
  • The family’s first official camping trip of the summer took place in Michigan, with a little rain but plenty of time outdoors.
    • “It rained a little bit the second day but…I was manifesting it the whole time that the rain was going to pass and it wasn't that bad.” – Catelynn, [01:48]
• Kids and the Park Routine
  • Kids wanted to go to the park “50 million times,” Cate humorously relates to other moms on TikTok who admit they don’t love going to the park.
    • “She [Kayla from Young & Pregnant] posted a video…‘is there any other parents out there...I just hate going to the park.’ And I was like, oh my God, that's me.” – Catelynn, [02:17]
  • Tyler, in contrast, says he enjoys it and reminisces about his own childhood.

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3. The Value of Simple Family Vacations

• Camping Over Extravagant Trips
  • Cate and Ty reflect on choosing the simplicity of camping, despite being able to afford high-end vacations.
    • “We have the availability to do…crazy vacations… but we still just…take our kids camping during the summertime.” – Catelynn, [05:21]
    • “It's the simplest thing to do…there's not any big expectations.” – Tyler, [05:40]
  • Both reminisce on childhood memories, noting most families didn’t vacation extravagantly when they grew up, yet camping provided lasting memories.
    • “I want all parents out there—don’t feel bad if you can't go on vacations. Like, this is not a normal thing.” – Tyler, [08:36]
    • “That's what you have the most memories of.” – Catelynn, [09:34]

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4. Social Media & Parenting Pressure

• The Comparison Trap
  • They acknowledge how social media heightens pressure for parents to "keep up" with extravagant vacations and curated family experiences.
    • “It's hard because we're in this constant state of comparison on social media…don’t get too caught up in it…” – Tyler, [09:42]
  • Cate and Ty encourage listeners that memories and family bonding don’t require expensive trips.
    • “As long as you have the intention of bonding and having a good time…that doesn’t require money. Like, not a lot of money.” – Tyler, [10:37]

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5. Creatively Navigating Parenting Challenges

• Camping Mishaps
  • Cate humorously recounts s’mores disasters with their daughter, Vada:
    • “I almost took my eye out. She almost took Raya's eye out. And Ty told her, like, 50 times…Don't touch the metal part!” – Catelynn, [13:03]
    • Tyler decides, after Vada burns herself, that only bamboo skewers are to be used by the little ones from now on.
• Flexibility & Fun
  • The kids love playing "house" in the camper, even in hot weather, and Cate and Ty enjoy watching them build their own memories.

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6. Reflections on Marriage: “Life is Hard, Marriage Shouldn’t Be”

• Celebrating 20 Years Together
  • Tyler shares his somewhat controversial opinion that marriage, for them, isn’t "hard"—it's life that brings challenges, and marriage is the place of comfort.
    • “When people say ‘marriage isn't easy,’ I can't relate because I think life is not easy. Marriage is supposed to be the…counterpart which could actually really benefit you when life is hard.” – Tyler, [19:47]
    • “Your partner should be the person where, when life is hard, it's that person to lean on or just want to be around them.” – Catelynn, [20:41]
  • They poke fun at common marital complaints, sharing small pet peeves (like Tyler leaving pajama pants on the floor and Cate leaving the faucet running).

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7. Parenting Philosophies: Self-Expression & Gender Norms

• Letting Kids Play with Makeup
  • Cate and Ty are unconcerned about their daughters experimenting with makeup at home, seeing it as healthy self-expression:
    • “I feel like it's a way of expression and they're just kind of learning.” – Catelynn, [26:20]
    • “They're being artistic, you know, they're experimenting.” – Tyler, [26:24]
• Rules vs. Intentions
  • The only concern would be if their kids felt unpretty without makeup: “If they're just like, I really like it, it makes me feel good…great. If it's ‘I don’t feel pretty without it,’ then we have to have a long conversation.” – Tyler, [29:00]
• No Hard Rules
  • Cate: “I don't feel like it's a sexualized thing...I don't look at it that way.” [28:01]

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8. School Dress Codes, Modesty & Double Standards

• Girls’ vs. Boys’ Dress Codes
  • Cate shares frustration with dress code rules that target girls' clothing, like forbidding tank tops or shoulders:
    • “Why…is a spaghetti strap a big deal? What's a big deal?” – Tyler, [34:27]
  • They discuss how boys are allowed to wear wide tank tops, but girls aren’t, even in extreme heat.
  • Ty argues that the onus shouldn’t be on girls to cover up to prevent boys from being distracted:
    • “We should be teaching boys to not sexualize these girls…teach the dangerous people, the creepy people, boys to not do that.” – Tyler, [34:12–38:21]
• Early Modesty Pressure
  • Cate notes her own daughters’ awareness of these dress codes, even in kindergarten.
    • “She looked at me, she said, ‘No, Mom, I can't wear that…it shows your shoulders. We’re not allowed to wear that.’” – Catelynn, [35:19]
• Raising Kids with a Modern Mindset
  • Both appreciate seeing parents actively teaching boys about respect and bodies, reflecting on shifting norms.

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9. Encouraging Comfort & Autonomy

• Kids and Shirts Off
  • They recall letting their daughters run around shirtless at home, just as boys do, arguing the difference is arbitrary at young ages.
    • Tyler, tongue-in-cheek: “If girls can’t be topless…then I think every guy who has a BMI over a certain number—cover your titties…or let the woman be topless, because there ain't no difference. In my opinion.” [42:10]
  • Cate reminisces about her own comfort as a child running around outside: “I remember…I was like, naked in the backyard, swimming in the pool naked. I always had my shirt off, just my shorts on.” [43:21]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “[Camping] doesn’t gotta be in a crazy, extravagant campground either…Some of the greatest memories with your family and your kids [is] because you're in such tight quarters and you're just together.” – Catelynn, [06:13]
• “Vacations do not need to be extravagant—need to be expensive…If you are really wanting to give your kids vacations, take them camping.” – Tyler, [10:37]
• “I can’t relate to people who say, ‘I need a break [from my spouse].’… Life is hard. Marriage is that counterpart which could actually really benefit you when life is hard.” – Tyler, [20:11]
• “They’re being artistic, you know, they’re experimenting. If they’re at home and want to mess with makeup…we don’t care.” – Tyler, [26:24]
• “Girls should be able to wear spaghetti straps to school…I don’t agree with the fact we should be telling girls what not to wear because you can’t raise the boys right…” – Tyler, [34:11]
• “If girls can’t be topless…then every guy who has a BMI over a certain number, cover your titties…let the woman be topless.” – Tyler, [42:22] (with both laughing)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 00:01 – Nighttime podcasting, summer parenting schedule
• 01:47–04:40 – Camping trip recap: weather, park routines, parenting perspectives
• 05:21–10:47 – Why they choose camping over fancy vacations; class and childhood reflections
• 13:03–14:18 – S’mores accident, practicality vs. nostalgia, kids playing in the camper
• 19:47–22:13 – Reflections on 20 years of marriage, challenging the “marriage is hard” narrative
• 26:20–29:37 – Parenting and self-expression: kids and makeup, setting intentions
• 34:00–39:05 – Navigating dress codes, modesty, gender expectations, raising kids with autonomy
• 42:10–43:21 – Comfort, toplessness, childhood freedom stories
• 43:21–44:11 – Wrap-up, technical difficulties, endnote

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Overall Tone & Takeaway

Cate & Ty’s discussion is casual, funny, and heartfelt, blending everyday parenting chaos with deep reflections on family, marriage, and social expectations. They reassure listeners that meaningful childhood experiences are about connection, not extravagance, and advocate for raising kids with self-confidence and independence, challenging old social norms along the way.

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For listeners seeking warmth, laughter, and straight talk about modern family life and values, this episode is a summer-evening delight.

Transcript

[A]

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[B]

Loved it.

[A]

I thought it was great. It rained a little bit the second day but I feel like I was manifesting it the whole time that the rain was going to pass and it wasn't that bad. It rained for a little bit but other than that we were at the beach and at the park. They wanted to go to the park 50 million times and I want to know. I saw somebody on Tik Tok Kayla from young and pregnant. And I've never related to like another mom so much.

[B]

I think I know what you're talking about. Go ahead.

[A]

She posted a video. She was like, is there any Other parents out there. And she was like, I just hate going to the park. And I was like, oh, my God, why? I was like, I kind of hate going to the park too. Like, I'm okay going, like, once in a while or whatever, but, like, when you're camping and stuff like that, they want to go to the park, like, four times a day.

[B]

I know. Well, because at the campground, the park is right there. Why would you not want to go to the park? If I was right on the street from my favorite park as a kid or any park, I'm. I'm going to the park every day.

[A]

True. Yes. And our kids are so little, like, we have to go with them and you know, that sort of stuff.

[B]

Don't be weird, man.

[A]

But I was like, she is. So she posts this video saying, like, I feel bad as, like, a mom and saying this out loud, but, like, I hate going to the park. And, and I was like, oh, my God, it's me. Right?

[B]

I think it is. But I don't mind going to the park. I love going to the park. I, I.

[A]

You're running around like a kid with them.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Maybe that's why you should start running around with them on the park.

[A]

Well, the one structure. Yeah. No, the one day that I did take them by myself because it was so nice out and you were working at the house. I did. We were, like, cooped up in the house all day. I was like, just get in the car. We're gonna go to the park, whatever. And we had fun. But, God, I don't know what it is about the park.

[B]

Why do you. I don't understand. Why not the park?

[A]

Because I, I don't know. When I take them, I swear, it's like ryo's getting hurt 50 million times. The one morning. I know, but the one morning I woke up, it was probably the third day of summer or so, and I, I was like, all right, we're gonna get him out of the house. Let's just go to the park in the morning. We'll go to the park in the morning, come home, do lunch, whatever. And literally we were there for like 45 minutes, and it was just non stop. Somebody getting hurt, somebody crying, somebody thirsty. And at that point, the fifth time somebody crying, I'm like, it's over. It's ruined. I don't want to be here anymore. We're going home.

[B]

It's fine. They're just kids. They're just gonna get, they're gonna scrape their knee and get mad and whatever. It's fine. It's the park. It'.

[A]

I know. I am excited for our second camping trip that we have coming up.

[B]

Me too.

[A]

The weather looks like it's supposed to be nice. It's supposed to be hot.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

And we always like to go during the week. And thankfully we have the, you know, flexibility to do that.

[B]

Right.

[A]

Because there's not a lot of people there during the week, which is so nice.

[B]

But you walk in that park or drive in that campground, it's just like, it's empty. I love it.

[A]

I love it too, because it's just, it's nice.

[B]

So anyone listening? Just be. This is what it. This night time. It's summer. Nighttime recordings.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

So I just thought about that. Like I was like, why do I feel so good?

[A]

Yeah. Don't be surprised if somebody's knocking on the door or you hear, you know, mom, because we did just put them to bed. But they do come out of their rooms. Oh. And it's always mom.

[B]

I think I still got damn dust in my eye from sanding today.

[A]

Sanding?

[B]

Yes, sanding. Floor prep, spraying.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So nighttime episodes are gonna be fun.

[A]

They are gonna be fun. But I really liked your post that you made about our first camping trip and how you were saying, you know, we have the availability to do like crazy vacations if we wanted to, but we still just, we always take our kids camping during the summertime.

[B]

Yeah. I just feel it's the simplest thing to do. It doesn't. And there's like 90. There's only. I think what, what it is is there's not any big, like expectations either. It's not like, do what I'm saying. We're not going to amusement park. We're not going to a location, a destination where it's like the kids are expected. I'm gonna do surfing and this.

[A]

Right.

[B]

You know what I mean? It's not like loaded with so much activity. I say that like lightly because we do activities on camping. But they're like more slower pace activities. Quieter ones don't cost a lot of money. They're simple. They're just simple. You know what I mean?

[A]

Right. You can go back to the camper and relax and eat lunch and then go and do something. Yeah.

[B]

So I feel like with camping it's just, I mean, it's the best summer vacation for kids.

[A]

And I think I had the best

[B]

memories growing up as a kid doing it. And it's funny because you never even camp until.

[A]

No. Until I got with you. Is that crazy? Yeah, it is.

[B]

And your mom could have. Your mom probably would have loved it.

[A]

Oh, super. Yeah.

[B]

Growing up. Trust it. Before my mom found Jesus. I mean, we camped and there's beer. You know what I'm saying? It was. It was a thing. So you're mouth.

[A]

And there's still beer with your mom now, but. And I think too, I think you do make the, like, the most memories with your family and your kids when you're camping is because you're in such tight quarters and you're just together and. But our kids love it. They. We pulled up the camper just a couple weeks ago, pulled it up to like, unwinterize it and make sure all the bedding is clean and all that. And they were, like, pumped.

[B]

They knew.

[A]

Dave's like, babe is like, go outside and play in the camper. I'm like, dude. And at first I'm like, no. Like, why you. Like, it's hot in there. Like, what do you want to do in there? And tell her like, babe, just let him. If you had a camper sitting in your driveway and you were a kid, wouldn't you want to go in there and play pretend? And I'm like, yeah, you're right.

[B]

I. A little stove, a little sink. My mom. Because we tented like our whole life, right. And I'm trying to think when we. I was. I can't remember what age I was. I had to been at least like 9 or 10, I think when we got our first camper. And it was a 1971 pop up. I'm talking orange, burnt orange sofa cushions and bright pea green countertops. Wood panels. Oh, great. Yeah.

[A]

Like, it was crazy from the 50s.

[B]

Oh, yeah, it was. Yeah. And I remember when we first got it, we popped up in the driveway and I was in there for days because it had a little stove and a little sink. And I was in there like, oh, yeah.

[A]

Yeah, they're playing house.

[B]

Grilled cheese. Yeah, like pbj. And I was living. I was. Yeah, I was playing house.

[A]

Yeah, they love it. So then I'm just like, whatever. You want to be in there and sweat your ass off, I guess, go for it.

[B]

They can't do nothing.

[A]

No.

[B]

In there.

[A]

No, I know.

[B]

Let them go. Whatever. It's fine.

[A]

And usually I'm not one to sweat the small stuff, but. Oh, gosh. They just. I'm like, it's so hot in there. Why do you. But they just, like, play house.

[B]

But I do think it's kind of crazy how, like, I. The reason why I made that post is Because I, I, we, we can, we could afford to go on these crazy vacations. But there's just something about camping that hits different.

[A]

I love camp.

[B]

And I also feel like growing up I never went on vacation. So like, I think people like, I don't want, I want all parents out there. Don't feel bad if you can't go on vacations. Like this is not a normal thing. Yeah, I don't actually, when I think of my friends, they were all poor too. No one went on vacations. I don't know, I don't know anyone out there listening. If I, I know we can't be the only ones. Like people didn't go on vacation a lot. You know, it wasn't something that happened. I mean maybe once in a while, but it was very rare.

[A]

Yeah. One time we went to Disney when I was little, I was probably like 10. Oh, when we went to Florida one time to see my great grandma. Oh no, I think that's when we went to Disney actually. But yeah, we didn't go on vacations

[B]

or we can't afford to go on vacation. I can't afford to live here. I can't afford to live anywhere else either for a short amount of time. You know what I'm saying?

[A]

More expensive to live there too. Yeah.

[B]

So like we just didn't, we didn't never did that. My mom couldn't afford it and so we just camped. Yeah. Was cheapest thing we could do.

[A]

But that's what you have the most memories of.

[B]

I do, yeah.

[A]

So that's what I hope for our kids. I hope that they get those, you know, all those memories.

[B]

Thinking too just like, how about all the people that like, like there's just so much pressure. I feel like being a parent in today's world, like, you know when you see. And it's hard because we're in this constant state of comparison on social media. So you see other families, oh look, we just pull up to, you know, you know, whatever. Yeah. Or you know, Bahamas. Oh my gosh, here we are. And the kids are all matching with their sun hats and their freaking long sleeve weird shirts that people put them in. And everyone's like, you know, they're posting, they're posting it. And so it's like as a parent, single parent or even just, you know, parents who are struggling, like, like don't get too caught up in it because it sucks out there. It's like I don't want them to feel like they're doing something wrong because they can't Afford to go on these extravagant vacations. Vacations do not need to be extravagant. Need to be expensive. And as long as you have the intention of bonding and having a good time and making memories that doesn't require money. Like, not a lot of money. So I think people, if you are really wanting to like, give your kids vacations, take them camping.

[A]

Like, some of the great memories that I have with my dad growing up. Yeah. Was nothing extravagant. We. He would wake me up at like. I remember one time he woke me up at like 4 in the morning. It was still dark outside, but it was raining. And he was like, it's raining. We're gonna go outside, we're gonna gather a bunch of worms. And so he went outside, we gathered a bunch of worms. And then that next. That morning he went and he took me fishing.

[B]

Yeah. With the worms.

[A]

Yeah. Right. And we were fishing and then I was like swimming in the river, you know, the Black river, actually.

[B]

Oh, really?

[A]

Yeah. Swimming in the Black River. By that bridge that you go down on Wadham's town. Yeah, right in there. We're catching crawfish. And you know, certain things that he would do or it was just like being outside and. Yeah. Making sure that he was like, present and teaching me things and show me things. Like, those are the. Some of the best memories.

[B]

I know for a fact that a lot of these people go on vacations. They're stuck on their phones.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

Like, they're not. You know what I'm saying?

[A]

Service. There's.

[B]

Yeah, but I'm saying there's. They're. Don't get it twisted. Like the memories and connecting.

[A]

Yeah. Connection.

[B]

Kids, you know, on vacations. And what makes a vacation a vacation.

[A]

Well, and that's what they'll remember the most is the connection.

[B]

Yeah. Like, what's the point of going on vacation to enjoy and relax and bond with your family and who you care about. Like, that's the whole point of it. So, you know, and enjoy yourself. So I feel like for any parents out there that are struggling, just. Just team camping.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Screw it.

[A]

Or fishing or.

[B]

It's. It's. It's. You know, there's always a campground around wherever you live. You know what I mean? Doesn't gotta be in a crazy, extravagant campground either.

[A]

No.

[B]

Because some of those around the fire with the kids.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

No technology is. They love it.

[A]

Yeah, they do.

[B]

I mean, so.

[A]

Especially just the talking and the making s' mores and. Except, God, that's a whole.

[B]

Well, making. No.

[A]

Yeah. Don't Vader's Cut off for making sports.

[B]

She's crazy with that spear.

[A]

I almost took my eye out. She almost took Raya's eye out. And then Ty told her, like, 50 times.

[B]

How many times did I say it, babe? How many?

[A]

Don't touch the metal part.

[B]

Don't. I. I can't tell you. Probably 10 times, right?

[A]

No, it was a lot.

[B]

And then it was. She touched, and then she was swinging around. Don't do that. Almost hit Raya. Almost hit me. Then she went and grabs the metal and burns herself. And I'm like, that's it. That's it. You're not. You're okay. You're just not responsible enough to have the right. Stick the spear.

[A]

No, you're not allowed.

[B]

You can't have it. Right? That's why I kept thinking my head. I'm like, all right, you're not listening.

[A]

Yeah, because we kept reminding her.

[B]

And then she burned herself. And I was like, that's it.

[A]

And she's lucky she didn't burn herself bad.

[B]

Yeah. She. She was immediately grabbing the marshmallow, and I told her, you can't choke up on the right. And she went, just.

[A]

I was like, no, I know. And at that point, I was like, okay, we're done with s'. Mores.

[B]

Yeah, we're just done.

[A]

Everybody had one already. We're again. Don't s'. Mores. And then I was. And then I'm like, okay, from here on out, we're just gonna buy the bamboo skewer for the little kids.

[B]

I agree.

[A]

You know what I mean? It'll burn.

[B]

Yeah, it will. Yes, exactly. You know, like, never had metal ones when I was a kid. We always had little skewers.

[A]

My dad was like, pull a tree. Pull a stick off tree.

[B]

That's what I'm saying.

[A]

Shove marshmallow.

[B]

Yeah, that's what we did.

[A]

Same. The good old days. Drinking out of. You know, drinking out of hoses and roasted marshmallows.

[B]

Buy me the. A bottled root beer.

[A]

Oh, really?

[B]

Bonfire. Yeah. In her little koozie. So I'm like, can I put mine in a little cozy, too? Me. Even though it's only, you know. Aw, root beer in a bottle.

[A]

Be like, I'm drinking a beer.

[B]

All right.

[A]

Yes. But. So we have a couple good ones planned this year, and I'm excited. I know we do want to book one. You want to go to the sand dunes?

[B]

Yeah, sand dune.

[A]

The dunes, huh? That would be fun.

[B]

We should probably like doing Torch Lake, and that'll be fun.

[A]

Yep. And then. Yeah. Torch Lake will be.

[B]

By the way, if you're not live, if you don't live Michigan, get your ass to Michigan and go camping. Because we have the best day for it.

[A]

Yeah, just being on the lakes when we were out there last weekend, just skipping the rocks.

[B]

I don't want to be anywhere else.

[A]

Yeah, it was beautiful and I hope

[B]

you always get these random thoughts of moving out of state. I want to move, but then it's like, no.

[A]

Michigan.

[B]

Summers hit and so many things happen. Not even just in summer, but so many things happen where I'm like, no, dude, no, I love it here. I love the seasons. I like the colorful changes. I like the snow when it's not annoying me.

[A]

Yeah, I'm over.

[B]

The summers are just top tier in the lake.

[A]

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[B]

Yeah, it's like a blanket. A blanket all over high. Which is the way it is. But we have all the coastline.

[A]

Our lakes are beautiful.

[B]

Dude. It's where it's at. Like, I don't care what anyone says, it is beautiful. I guess I could move somewhere else if it was, like, by a lake. Not the ocean. I need a lake.

[A]

Yeah, I don't like ocean.

[B]

Like, inner. Like inner lake somewhere. You know what I mean?

[A]

But then it's probably gonna have cold, too, so it's pointless.

[B]

True.

[A]

You know what I mean? It's kind of pointless to move because it's gonna be the same seasons and everything.

[B]

I know. So lay in floor. Tomorrow is going to be a nightmare.

[A]

You have AC in there, though, don't you?

[B]

I know, but I crank. It's a rental. I ain't cranking the AC.

[A]

Well, it's gonna be 96 degrees outside. I mean.

[B]

All right, I'll set it to 75.

[A]

And you're.

[B]

That's doable.

[A]

Sure.

[B]

I'll just take my shirt off and lay the floor that way.

[A]

His skivvies laying the floor.

[B]

Excuse her. Don't look in here. I'm smacking floor together.

[A]

Smacking. Dick. It's making floor. No, just kidding. Because you know what I mean, like, you're loose. Oh, my God. It's so funny.

[B]

I gotta finish sanding and. Yeah, that's it.

[A]

But also to fix the furnace, too.

[B]

Thank God. Oh, my God.

[A]

I know. Thank God you did that. I really Want to take the kids, though, to the. To the Up So bad.

[B]

Eventually. All right, we gotta plan it out.

[A]

Oh, we haven't been up there in years.

[B]

We used to go really plan it, like. Like the end of this, like, when it opens up to book it.

[A]

Yeah. Because we used to go every year for many, many years after our first trip. No.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

We used to go many years or no, we used to go, like. Yeah, once a year for a lot of years after the one trip that we took by ourselves to the UP and we haven't been back since.

[B]

I know.

[A]

A couple years after Noble was born.

[B]

Today would have been the. Or this year would have been the year to do it.

[A]

I know. Because they're all, like, creatures.

[B]

20 damn years.

[A]

Isn't that crazy?

[B]

Isn't it?

[A]

What the 20 years.

[B]

20 years I went. I don't know. Listen, things didn't really hit me a lot, you know, I mean, oh, 10 years old, 12 years, 13, whatever. 15 years. Oh, wow. Something about 20. I'm just like, holy.

[A]

So how do you feel after about to be 20 years?

[B]

Feel great. I think this is what I. I saw someone. And maybe it's controversial, but, like. But I always say, like, when people say marriage isn't easy, I can't relate because I think life is not easy. Marriage is supposed to be the. It's not supposed to be this difficult thing the way I feel. That's the way I feel.

[A]

Like, overly difficult.

[B]

Like, it's. It shouldn't be that hard. I love you unconditionally with everything, put you first, whatever, that. It's natural or it's organic. I'm not forced to. I don't get resentments to do it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know what I'm saying? So people. Oh, marriage is really hard. I'm like, no, I think life is hard.

[A]

Yeah. I can agree with that.

[B]

And marriage is that counterpart which could actually really benefit you when life is hard.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Because you have someone that you. That you can rely on and trust and, you know, I mean, I was gonna say.

[A]

Yeah. I feel like your partner should be the person where. When life is hard, it's that person to lean on or just want to be around them. Yeah.

[B]

Like, people. I can't relate to people who say, I can't. I need a break. It's like. A break from what?

[A]

I know I say that all the time. Like, I can't relate.

[B]

I. I don't understand it. I don't ever in my. A break from her.

[A]

Never in my mind.

[B]

Never. I mean, if it does it's fine. But I'm saying it never crosses my mind. Cuz obviously dealing means a lot different than me. I might need a break for my damn self.

[A]

Right?

[B]

Yeah, you probably never had the thought. My mind never cross it. Oh, I just need a break from her.

[A]

No, I've never had that thought either.

[B]

No, I had a thought about had a break from my kids.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Isn't that crazy?

[A]

Yeah, but.

[B]

But never. So I. I don't understand. People say marriage is so hard. It's like, is it though? Is it supposed to be?

[A]

I don't think it should be.

[B]

Like, I get aspects of life is hard, which can affect the marriage.

[A]

Right? Yeah.

[B]

But not, you know, am I making sense?

[A]

No, you're. No, you're making sense. Like, yeah, that's like that girls. I saw a girl's video on Tick Tock where she was. She said, she's like, I cannot relate. She's. She's like, when people complain about their husbands or they need to get away from their husbands, or I need to just go have a girl's night without my husband, which I get every once in a while, that's fine. But she. Hers was funny because she was like, well, can my husband come? She's like, I want with them all the time. She's like, franca. Yeah. She was like, no. And she said that. She's like, he's my best friend and if I could just fold him up and stick him in my pocket, you know, and take them everywhere, then I. I would, you know, I mean, I.

[B]

It's like. And then I say it out loud and I'm like, are like, does this sound people? You guys are all crazy.

[A]

And there's been times, especially with girls, like sports and things like that, where I've been around like groups of women and just some of the things they talk about. I'm like, hi.

[B]

You'd be telling me some things at the nail plates. I'm like, whoa.

[A]

Yeah, right? Like, people just talk there, you know, in random places.

[B]

People are actually not happy.

[A]

No.

[B]

Like, you know what I'm saying? Which. That's why I think people are like, oh, merit is hard. And it's like.

[A]

And so there's like, women are all talking, like, you know, basically almost in a way of how much they can't stand their husbands. I'm just kind of standing there quiet, like, this is awkward.

[B]

Or you could just be like, yeah, well, he lays a towel on the floor, I just want to wring his neck.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Throw in a comment in there to Kind of relate.

[A]

They're probably like, she's lame.

[B]

You're like, well, I guess his hair in the sink kind of bothers me. And I. You know what I mean? They just throw in some random.

[A]

Well, one time I did take a picture, and because I busted my ass, I cleaned the whole laundry room, organized it. There was nothing on the shelves. Nothing. It was all clean. Yeah. I walk in there and tell me why Tyler's pants are in front of the empty laundry basket but on the floor. And I took a picture because I was gonna post that online.

[B]

It is bad. I understand. Oh, I get it. Totally.

[A]

Every morning I walk in there. Whose pants are on the floor? Tyler's. I pick them up and I throw them in the laundry bag in the washer. Oh, really? Are you sure? I'm trying.

[B]

That hard. I'm trying.

[A]

I mean, I'll try harder, because every morning, his pajama pants are on the floor.

[B]

Pajama pants. But listen, I need to.

[A]

I bet you there's probably pants in front of it right now. If I were to go down there.

[B]

Listen, though, I need the same pajama pants. I guess they don't do them for. They could be on the basket or whatever.

[A]

Or in the laundry basket.

[B]

No, no, I wear them. I wear the same pajama hats. More than once.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Is that weird?

[A]

I don't think it's weird.

[B]

I just sleep in them, and then I take them off in the regular morning, and then I put them back on that.

[A]

But I'm just saying, if that's the least of my.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

You know what? I'm like, whatever, but.

[B]

But even that. It's like, they're still. I mean. Yeah.

[A]

I mean, there's things I do that. Yeah.

[B]

Like, certain stuff like that. But it's. I never get the.

[A]

Well, so what's one thing for you that I do? Leave the sink on?

[B]

Leave the water running when no one's around? The water's running. No, you're out. Not even the house. You're not even in the house. You've been outside before. And I was like, what? And the water is running at the front, at the kitchen sink. And I said, there's no human in the room.

[A]

Dude. Even Noah's home. Even Nova shuts it off on me now. And I'm like, I'll come in the house. I'm like, I had a running for a reason. And she's like, I'm sorry.

[B]

I know. But, like, where and why to get it really hot?

[A]

I don't know.

[B]

Okay. But I think you forget that you're trying to get it hot or something. It's weird.

[A]

Even my mom is shut it off.

[B]

You disappear. Yeah, it's off. I'm like, dude, you've been gone for 20 minutes. So I don't know, I just assumed that you forgot that the water was running. So I turn it off. It's crazy.

[A]

Did you see Raya before I put her to bed tonight?

[B]

No.

[A]

You didn't see her eyeshadow?

[B]

Oh, no, I did.

[A]

Who's that girl off of Mimi. Yeah.

[B]

Which Drew. Drew.

[A]

The Drew show.

[B]

What was it called?

[A]

That was a good show back in the day.

[B]

What's it called? She's a big girl.

[A]

Purple.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Hers are blue, but. Oh yeah, right. Had a full fledged face of just blue eyeshadow on tonight because I was in here setting up the podcast stuff and she came upstairs and that's her Invada's. That's what they do. They go right to that vanity and I don't care. I'm like, whatever.

[B]

Makeup?

[A]

Yeah. She's like, is this lipstick? Yep. Is this lipstick? Yep. Because I have like.

[B]

And I did tell him that, like, you know, you can always, you can always do it when we're at home.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, what am I supposed to do? Tell them they can't do big up?

[A]

No. It's funny because I had Ray on the phone actually when she called me and saw us sent this stuff when we were just chatting and. And she was like, wow. She's like, how do you feel about makeup? You know, And I'm like. I said me and Ty are very much like, if you're at home and you want to mess around with makeup and put stuff on and you know, whatever. I'm like, we don't care. Like, it's not like they're wearing, you know, full fledged. I said, I feel like it's a way of expression and they're just kind of learning.

[B]

That's the way I feel. I feel like they're. They're being artistic, you know, they're experimenting.

[A]

Even, even Ray, she was like, I really. I love that she. Because she said, she's like, I have a memory. One time my aunt let me and me. And I think it was her, her and her sister, her and her cousins or something did that where they were like playing with makeup and stuff. And raised grandma showed up to pick her up and her grandma was like really upset, like, and she goes. And I have a memory of like crying and I was like washing it off in the sink.

[B]

You know, which, which is kind of a thing where it's like, I don't think you should like shame it like that. Like, you know what I mean? Like, oh my God. I think what the kid does, it goes, oh, so me expressing myself or

[A]

just having fun, feeling pretty, having fun,

[B]

being authentic with myself externally and you know, whatever. That it's not accepted.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And that's crappy.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Because it's not harmful. That's why I always think my kids are doing something. Is it harmful?

[A]

Right.

[B]

To them or anyone else or is

[A]

it just annoying me or whatever?

[B]

What? What is it? Because honestly, most of the time it's just annoying. It's annoying me.

[A]

You know what I mean?

[B]

They're not harming themselves.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Not harming anybody else.

[A]

Right.

[B]

So, you know, and I told Ray

[A]

on the phone and I said, and also a part of me too. I. I was like, you know, my mom never taught me how to do my own hair, taught me how to do makeup. Like, as far as like cur. And you know, I always had to teach myself. So I'm like, if they want to play in it or even ry. She's like, what is this? I.

[B]

You wear makeup or did you just never ask her to her interest?

[A]

I guess I never really, like asked her really was interested until, I don't know, seventh, eighth grade or whatever. And who knows when Noble will get there. But like, even if right now at 11 years old, if she wanted to wear like mascara and eyeliner. Yeah. I'd be like, absolutely.

[B]

And I guess we already talked about that. But like, I don't know. I don't. Makeup is not something that I. I

[A]

don't feel like it's a sexualized thing. I don't look at it that way. I don't look at it.

[B]

People, that's what people. The problem.

[A]

I don't know. I don't know if it's because it. I don't really know what the problem is. That's what I'm curious thing as far as, like, it, like, I don't know, makes them prettier. Which. I'm like, what's wrong with that? I don't understand that part, you know, but you know, like, some people are very much like, no, you can only wear the clear mascara or the lip gloss or things like by the time

[B]

they actually wear makeup every day.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Don't make them work. They can wear real mascara.

[A]

Right. I'm not gonna send my 7 year old because Veda would. I'm not gonna send her to first, second Grade with a full face of me.

[B]

Right.

[A]

You know, like you're little.

[B]

I'm saying, what age do you allow? Like, because it's not something that I. It's almost one of those things where I don't even think that I like allow or not allow it. It's just that where are you at in your age? What is the intention for the makeup? I definitely would ask the question, like, why do you want to wear the makeup every day or wear it to school or wherever we're going? Why?

[A]

Because you want to make sure that you're not thinking that I not pretty enough.

[B]

That's my thing, is that I want to make sure I know their intention for doing it. You know what I mean? And if they do say, well, I just don't feel pretty without it, then we have to have a long conversation that's going lead it into a different thing. But I feel like if they're just

[A]

like, I really like it, it makes

[B]

me feel good about makeup. I don't think. And I think the people who think that it's. That it's harmful are looking at it in a weird adult, sexual, adult way or something. Right.

[A]

Or you're. Are you worried about them making themselves look prettier or look older? I don.

[B]

Would looking prettier concern you?

[A]

Yeah, I don't. I don't really know. Cuz I'm not. I don't think like that.

[B]

I know.

[A]

I don't know. But now I'd be interested to know.

[B]

I know. Does anyone out there, like, what is it? What? What is it? What is it?

[A]

Right.

[B]

Is it them looking prettier that concerns you? That's weird to me. Why would them being prettier be concerning to you?

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[B]

What other issues could it could. Could. Why? I don't.

[A]

Yeah, I don't. Yeah, I don't get it. I don't know. Because Nova's. She's 11. She'll be 12 this year here. Like I said right now, if she wanted to wear like a little bit of makeup to school, I'd be like, sure. I don't care.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I mean, honestly, I don't even know about. There's no bound, there's no boundary aligned for me there here. If my kids go into school and drag makeup, what am I supposed to do?

[A]

Yeah, true. Because what if she ends up being a makeup artist one day?

[B]

Honestly, you can't sit there and shame some girl because she has too much makeup and then. But say that like a gothic kid who's got really crazy makeup. Oh, they're just being cool and expressing themselves. Like. Yeah, apply the same standard for.

[A]

All Right, true.

[B]

You know what I mean?

[A]

Because the girl that's doing goth versus just pretty.

[B]

However, if you compare drag makeup and heavy, intense gothic makeup, like the pale face and the crazy. You know what I'm saying?

[A]

It's both expression.

[B]

Yeah. So where am I? I don't have a line there. I don't know. I have a line with, with, with clothes. I think. I think like wearing like crazy attire is different because like what do you mean crazy? Like. Like showing your body in a. In a way that I think you're too young to understand what. What it's. What. What it is. You know what I'm saying?

[A]

What would be like. So what would be overboard for you if.

[B]

If Veda wanted to go to school in like a tube top in a short mini skirt? Oh, I'd be like, Veda, no, no. You know, like, we have to fall close dress code. Yeah. I don't. I think. I mean, that's probably the only thing that I can really think of.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Because there's not really anything besides like young girls wearing tube top. And I'm talking tube. I'm not talking about crop top.

[A]

You know, it's just like a. It's almost like a bralette. Yeah.

[B]

But in like a little skirt. You know what I mean? Or whatever. Like, that's a little. What are you doing here? But like any. Everything else, I don't see. I don't see an issue. I don't. I think. I think girls should be able to wear spaghetti straps to school. I think it's. I think I don't agree with the fact that we should be, you know, telling girls what not to wear. Because you can't raise the boys. Right. To not sexualize these girls.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I agree unwarranted. Like, you can't do, like. So I say that. Teach the boys to not do that. Instead of telling the girls, hey, they can't control themselves, so you have to like, cover your shoulders or. Or what.

[A]

Which. They don't say that, but that's how it's across.

[B]

Then tell me why a spaghetti strap is a big deal. What's a big deal?

[A]

Well, and it's funny because this year for summer, I purposely bought. Because back in the time when we were high school, we could wear tin cuffs, but it had to be like, the straps had to be two to three fingers.

[B]

Yeah, right. Yeah, right, right.

[A]

And the shorts had to be the length of, you know, your fingertips or when you put your hands down. So, of course, like, for my kids, summer's coming. I bought. Bought the fat strapped, like tank tops. Like, not even racerbacks, not.

[B]

Yeah, right.

[A]

You know, and they're like. They're definitely three fingers.

[B]

For sure? Yeah, for sure.

[A]

And I pulled them out for school the one night, and Veda actually saw me laying her stuff out. And she said, and she's in kindergarten. Kindergarten, you know, second year kindergarten, whatever. But she's in kindergarten still. And she. She looked at me, she said, no, Mom, I Can't wear that. And I was like, beta, why? It's two, three, very.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

And it's going to be 80 something degrees outside. And she said, she goes, no, it so shows your shoulders. We're not allowed to wear that.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

And I'm like, this is dumb.

[B]

And because I'm telling you, I've seen boys wear tank tops at elementary schools. I see I have like cut offs. I'm not, I'm not. I'm not talking about strips.

[A]

Right.

[B]

I'm talking a cut off. Like. Like a cut my sleeve off.

[A]

Right. Well, that's like a whole hand wash wide.

[B]

I don't give a. If it's a hand wide or a finger wide. The boys wearing a tank top and the girl cannot. I don't give a. What it is.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I think that is weird to me.

[A]

And so when Nova said that some boys have worn like, you know, like the tank tops like that, like the cut off, the cut offs, I made sure to. Because she's saying that. And so I'm making sure to look, you know, at pickup. And I never saw one in her school.

[B]

Yeah, but they just go ahead. Yeah. Elementary school. Little kids at field day. Yes.

[A]

Well, see, so that's weird.

[B]

So I don't know. I'm just saying, like, if the standard is going to be applied, I gotta apply to all. And I don't think we should be having little girls carry the brunt of the irresponsibility of these young freaking feral boys that no one's teaching the right. Right or wrong to. Like what the. That's not my kids. That's not my daughter's fault that you're that, that it's administration or these kids look at her shoulders and get excited in.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Rang yourself in. Tell these. You know what I'm saying?

[A]

Right. Well. And plus, I wonder if it's almost like a. Like a double. Like a double edged sword. So it's. It's teaching girls that they can't show shoulders because it's quote unquote attractive. And then I wonder in turn if it's teaching boys that it is like a sexual thing or something. Because I don't think every boy is going to school, school and thinking like, oh, I can see your shoulders. That's hot. So I want to. Do you get what I'm saying? Like almost teaching boys in a way.

[B]

Well, I think it's teaching all the wrong things because you're teaching the girls. Oh my God, I can't be free and expressive of my body without being in danger.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Or without being, you know, without being approached unwanted or. You know what I mean? I'm literally at risk if I am expressive with my body. Body. That's not okay. Like, no.

[A]

And honestly, you're on. The same sickos out there are going to be sickos regardless of what you're wearing.

[B]

Yeah. And so my thing is that I think it's teaching girls, like, oh, no, I can't wear what I want because these people are dangerous.

[A]

Yeah, that.

[B]

So that's. I don't understand. No, no, no. Like, we need to teach the dangerous people, the creepy people, weird people to. To not do that. Teach the boys to not sexualize shoulders or sexualize a girl's body at all without them, you know, asking for or whatever. Like. So, like, dude, like, it's teaching boys also, like, in my opinion, is that it's teaching the boys that, oh, this is what. What girls are supposed to do. They're supposed to hide their bodies from me and all my. My friends that are guys because that's what girls should do. So it's also teaching boys the wrong thing too.

[A]

Right.

[B]

They know that is not. That is not what girls are supposed to do or what they need to do to make sure you and your boys are chill and settle down. You know what I'm saying?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

That is not. That's not it.

[A]

And thankfully, thankfully, you know, we're in a new. A different generation where I have seen, like, on social media and things like that of moms that are like, of moms of boys. I have seen a lot of, like, amazing moms that do teach their sons very amazing things. You know what I mean? As far as, like, women in their bodies and clothes.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I'm like, thank God. It's like, it's kind of. It's scary that we're raising kids in this day and age, but then also a part of me is like, thank God we're raising kids. This taking age as far as real, the parents, I think.

[B]

I think if I was back in the day, I would have been. I'd be bad. I think it'd be bad. I'd probably be in jail protesting. And I'll be. I'd be all. I'd be, dude, you'd be out there

[A]

fighting for women's rights.

[B]

No, but I'd just be like, dude, oh my God, bro, bro. I'm happy that we have more freedom now with the way you parent. And. Well, I'm saying the parenting stuff because I think parent, even parenting has shifted for my. Even my mom. You know, or my generation, like, and I don't know just anything. Like, like, even when girls wear dresses. Yeah. You put biker shorts on your daughter and you don't say a word. It's just normal. It's normal. So when they lift their legs up, you'll go, oh, put your dress down.

[A]

Yeah, I do that.

[B]

No, no, no, they have shorts on.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Fling around, do jumping jacks, do a bath flip. Yo. That's what I mean. So remember our.

[A]

I was always like that.

[B]

But see, our rule that we've always had was that anything that covers in your bathing suit, that's yours.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Not for anyone else. You know what I'm saying? So, like that. So with that being in mind. No, we're not going to teach a girl to don't, don't jump on your dress. She's a child. She's going to do dumb and jack. She's going to do jump. You know what I'm saying? So. Or don't worry or don't, don't put the daughter in a dress then.

[A]

Right.

[B]

You know what I mean? But if you are like, it's not your job to teach the daughter to make sure you keep your dress down. Don't look, don't lift your legs up. Don't jump too high so your draft flies up.

[A]

Yeah, I don't.

[B]

Because you put shorts on, you don't give a. You don't say.

[A]

Right. Because they're kids.

[B]

This is their kids. So that's what I'm saying. Like, you know, we have a responsibility here. And I think our parents were a little different back then where it was like, cross your legs.

[A]

Oh, gosh. Yeah.

[B]

Girls couldn't even sit like a girl. Sit like a girl girl. No, that.

[A]

Right.

[B]

No, that. Sit how you feel comfortable.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know, dress how you feel comfortable. Do jumping jacks in a dress because you have short time. You don't give a Right. You know what I'm saying? Like.

[A]

Or whatever.

[B]

I just think there's certain things where it's like, there's a line there where you're teaching modesty, whatever that looks like for you. Because I do think modesty is subjective. I don't think modesty is some, you know, just universally accepted thing. It's subjected to what. Yeah, it is. You know what I mean?

[A]

So every household, every parent. Yeah.

[B]

They're already a. Modesty is different. I just think that you shouldn't. Yeah. I don't think you should like villainize or shame girls because they're have shoulder and a spaghetti Strap or their stripes are too sharp. Like what? Come on, man.

[A]

It is dumb. Especially when it's freaking 90 degrees out there.

[B]

Dumb. Dumb.

[A]

No, no, no. That's like the one day when you were out building the kids tire swing that they don't ever swing in on. Little V saw you outside without your shirt on building stuff. And she's like, dad's got. Outside, he's got his shirt off. I'm like, well, yeah, honey, you know boys, they take their shirts off when they're outside or whatever. And she was like, can I go out there with my shirt off? And I'm like, go for it. And she was, huh?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

She was like, I can. And I was, yeah, for it. And then Ryan was like, can I? And I was like, yes, go for it. Don't do a no. And because it's like I live in the middle of nowhere and they're seven and four.

[B]

No. And my. Also my thing is too, is that like, I had. And this is a very controversial take, I feel, but if girls can't be topless, adult consenting, whatever. Be topless at a beach or whatever.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And that's wrong. Whatever. Then I think every guy who has a BMI over a certain number. Cover your titties, because your titties are bigger than hers and you're shirtless, as on the beach look like a slop whale with tits that are bigger than any woman I've ever seen. And. And little girls and boys are walking by your big ass titty, hairy titty. So you cover your up or let the woman be breast or topless because there ain't no difference. Yeah. In my opinion.

[A]

I know. I get.

[B]

And that's why I told. No, I told Beta because she was like. She's like, what did she say? Oh, you have boobs? I was like, well, I said, they're not really boobs. I don't have the tissue that women have, which they produce milk and all that other stuff. So I'll explain it everything to her. And then I was like, but I was like, but I. There's a reason why I have a nipple. Because the nipple. I explained that the nipple is to feed the babies. And I can't have baby, you know, I mean, you can't. So I don't produce milk. So I was like, But I told her why? Why boys have nipples. And so. And she was like, oh, you know what I mean? So we all turn out as, you

[A]

know, as girls, huh? But no, they were pumped. They were running around the backyard with their Shirts off. And I told my mom that story, too. And I said, I said, I remember Mo. I said, you saw me. I was like, naked in the backyard, swimming in the pool naked. I always had my shirt off. It's my shorts on. On. And she was like, gosh, she was your little girl. She's like, I couldn't keep clothes on you. She's like, I put a bathing suit on you. I'd go grab some of the house. Come out. Where's Kate? Where's your clothes? Hey, guys, sorry this episode. We had some technical difficulties that are just driving us insane. Mercury retrograde must be really after us with this one. But please, thank you guys so much for listening and the continued love and support. We love you guys, guys. And we'll be talking to you guys next week. Goodbye.

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