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Well, can you believe we're here?
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Can you believe this is us? Here we are. Kate and Ty. Break it down, Episode one.
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I know, right?
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What are we doing?
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It's been. It's. You tell me. I don't know. It's already been a journey to get here, and we're here.
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B
I mean, for me, I just feel like we work so hard, hard to get here, to do this, and we have so many, like, avenues we want to go with it.
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So many.
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It's like adhd, literally, is adhd podcast version. Like, here, watch our brain scramble and just go off of all these different things, because I also don't want us to be, like, we're not going to be interviewing celebrities every week. We're not going to be. You know what I mean? I feel like it's. I want to stay real and raw. Me and you have great conversations, even just up in our bed when we're watching tv.
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Yeah.
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And I want to feel like that.
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You know, And I think also just giving and giving platforms to voices that aren't typically heard in some situations, I think, too, you know, look at, like.
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As far as adoption goes and addiction.
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And adoption. Yeah. Addiction, marriage.
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B
Honestly, I feel like. I know with. With Teen mom and stuff, they have a specific. They see what they see, right?
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Yeah.
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It cuts our whole life into little pieces and they plaster on tv, and that's what you get to see. But I feel like with this, it's like people are going to be able to see a different. A. Just a different side, a different.
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And. And I mean, I hate to see, say, like, a deeper side, too, because our show and what we've shared is pretty deep, but that still is only the surface level of it. We film for months and months and months and then make it into, you know, five little bits here and there.
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And don't you think sometimes, like, it's just, like, some things just aren't justified? You're like, dude, that could have been explained way better. That could have. Like, almost like we don't have enough.
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Time because we don't.
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We don't. I mean. Yeah. Now what? How many cast members do we have on our show now?
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Yeah. Nine.
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Nine. Okay. And we used to only have four, so it went more than double, which means our time on screen for each episode gets double smaller. It does kind of feel like this is a perfect little kind of. We compensate for it.
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Well, because I think also, you know, people will be able to listen and we can talk about things that they just recently saw on tv and we can dive deeper into it and talk about the backstory, talk about the bigger fallout picture of it if it wasn't that big on the show.
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You just expand on things. Yeah, because sometimes we'll see clips on TV and we're like, no, it's right. Like, I can be like, now I.
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Can actually say it.
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Record. Okay. Hey, so we want to mention episode 405. We're gonna talk. You know what I mean? So we can actually, like, get into it, which I think people, like, who've followed our story for 15 years, they kind of deserve it. I feel like, in a way, I.
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Don'T know why they're interested, but. No, I'm just kidding. We always say that.
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Are you sure? Are we really. You really want to hear more from us, right?
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Are you sure you like us?
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Because isn't it hard to kind of, like, look at yourself in that kind of light?
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It is, because it's literally just our lives, and I'm like, I don't ever look at myself in sort of some, like, spotlight or that. Oh, you're a tabby, A TV reality star. I'm like, no, don't say that. Yeah, it makes you cringe. Doesn't it?
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Say that? Or they say, like, oh, what's it like to be a celebrity? No, not the C word.
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I know we've always said we. Me and you've always said that, like, do not use the C word. Puke. Yeah, it's like, I'm literally. No, I'm just. Literally a normal person with just a normal life.
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I kind of think it's interesting, though, because, like, it takes a. It takes someone specific to kind of, like, take yourself out of that viewpoint and look at yourself. It requires you to look at yourself in a different light, which is hard for us because we just live our lives, and then it's like, what we think is not that interesting. Someone's like, oh, my God. Wow, that's. And we're like, oh, you think that's interesting?
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We're like, yeah. When we get feedback from, like, producers and stuff, and they're like, what's going on in your life? And we're just telling them things, and then all of a sudden, they're like, oh, that's super interesting. I'm like, it is?
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B
Yeah. It's almost like when, remember, the producers will call us, and they're like, so, what's going on in your life? And we're all this and that, but nothing really too much. Like, oh, that's kind of a lot going on. I mean. Oh, yeah, I guess you're right. Yeah.
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A
That's how you. That's when you start to realize, like, maybe my life has been chaos my whole entire life, and I just never knew it. Normal. I'm just used to chaos. And I guess chaos is interesting to other people that don't know me, but.
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I feel like we've been working on this for a long time.
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Yeah. It's been a good six months to a year process.
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And also before that even happened, we've been having years of just people like, please start a podcast. Please start a podcast. And it's like, I almost felt like for a minute, it was like, well, who needs another podcast?
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I know, right?
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B
There's a podcast now about every damn thing under the Sonic.
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Every show, every.
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You know, but after a while, and especially with how Teen mom has kind of grown and evolved.
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Yeah.
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I think it's time.
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I think it's the great. I think it's a great time.
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So Kate and Ty break it down. I mean, we're here to break it down.
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A.
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Break it and break it down. And that's why I wanted to. I thought me and you were thinking about, like, what we're going to call it.
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Yeah.
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Kate and I break it down because I don't want. I just want to break it down whatever. Whatever that is. Addiction, adoption, you know, so.
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Yeah. And just talk about all things that are very broad.
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I'm just excited. I'm excited to do this with you.
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I'm excited to do this with you, too.
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B
I mean, we're going on, what, 18 years together.
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Yeah.
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Can you believe that?
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I cannot believe it's been 18 years. It doesn't. Like, logically, yeah, I know it's been 18 years, but mentally, I'm just like. It feels like five.
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B
Yeah.
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Does that make sense? Like, I don't know. I truly. I feel like, you know, when you find your person, you know, that's your person. And here we are, seventh grade, I said, I'm gonna marry that guy and have his kids.
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And I remember. Think you were crazy. I'm like, damn, you were right. You. You're like a witch catching a spell. Like, got me out.
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I put a spell on you.
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Yeah. You knew. I'm like, what? Yeah.
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And here we are, you know, now it's crazy to think about, you know, all the things that we have done with each other and what we've created back at home is. It's something simply amazing. And when I was a little girl, I always dreamed of having what I have now, you know, and it's just a blessing to have it.
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Isn't it crazy? Sometimes I'll watch our kids, like, just going upstairs to go to sleep.
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Yeah.
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I love you, Dad. I love you. And she's like, dude, this is insane.
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It is, right?
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I never, ever thought in my life we'd ever have what we have.
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No.
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And honestly, I mean. And we have to give credit to where it's due, where it's like, I don't think we wouldn't have the specific lifestyle if it wasn't for.
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Well, no, you're absolutely not.
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And just the whole MTV experience, so.
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Which has led to different things, like the podcast. Like, you know, and that's why I think this podcast will be good, because we can dive into deeper things that aren't shown on. On television. You know, like us speaking to adoptees on the daily. Like, we do, because, you know, we're. We're being educated more about adoption and knowing how silenced adoptees are and that. And also, like, our other passion projects that we have as far as, like, reuniting families with lost people, bridging the gap in between family members or cousins or, you know, whatever, like, just helping people. We always love to help people. Yeah, we love to, like, educate people and stuff. So this will give us a whole different opportunity to do those things.
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B
But I also feel like it's important to, like, address what people. What. What they could expect from, you know, Kate and Tight Break it down, which is more or less, like, I think we talked about a lot about, like, I want to explore more about adoption. For one.
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Yeah.
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And for two, about what that looks like to help people. Like, this is what adoption looks like. This is the industry. This is, you know, how important it is for. For reunification to happen.
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Yeah.
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And. And I just think it's going to give a different, you know, viewpoint that I think people are so used to like. Like, you know, they're so used to seeing this beautiful story of, like, oh, these kids in crisis and they give their baby away and now so beautiful. It's so awesome. And they get to see yourself. It's like, no, there's a lot of raw, real trauma, pain, you know, necessary growth that has to happen. And. And just the nitty gritty of all of it.
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Yeah. There's a hard side and a good side. And also, too, it's like, I don't want people that are listening to think, like, oh, it's only going to be an adoption podcast, because it's not. It's very, very broad. We have, you know, multiple people. We're wanting to talk to you on a whole bunch of different, you know, subjects and stuff. That's why we said in the beginning, like, adhd.
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B
Yeah.
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A
On crack.
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B
Yes. Like, but, hey, that's okay, because, honestly, I feel like I want listeners to go through the journey with us in real time. I don't really want it to feel like we learned something and then now we're just preaching that to them. And, like, this is what, you know, I want. I want you to follow us. Like, we're learning as we go, and I think it's kind of cool that they can be on the ride with us as we do it, because, honestly.
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We'Re still learning and incorporating them into different topics that we talk about and asking them to ask us questions about those topics or, you know, bringing fans on to talk about certain situations and bringing on people that are educated in those certain subjects to talk about it. Like, I think that kind of stuff will be a lot of fun.
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B
Yeah. And also marriage stuff.
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A
Yeah.
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B
I feel like. Like, I know Team mom shows, like, some of our marriage stuff, but it's like, there's a lot of work that.
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A
Goes into it, and it's more or less on the show. They more or less show, you know, everything that we're going through with our adoption, our parents struggles, the struggles of keeping a relationship with your par. It's not. And it's like, parenting. But, no, they don't really dive deep into the marriage stuff.
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B
Yeah. Which I think. I think it's kind of one of those things where it's like, people. We get a lot of positive feedback and comments about, oh, my God, you guys have been together so long, and you guys are soul mates and it's all this stuff. But it's like, there's been so much, like, hardships and growth that had to happen for both of us individually, and a lot, you know, like, that led to us having the relationship that we.
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Have and a lot of work.
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Work. Like, I think people like, oh, it's like. It's like, no, there's work involved. Yeah. I do. I do believe, though, that, like, the work should. You should want to do the work. It shouldn't. Like, because when we were doing it, did it feel like work for you?
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No, it felt like I wanted to learn more, and I was curious to learn and to change and to work on things.
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B
That's what I mean. Like, I feel like people. Oh, it's hard work. It's like, yeah, it's hard work when you're after you're done through it, but when you're going through it, it doesn't feel like work. It feels like something you want to do.
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Yeah, it does.
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I have a desire to learn more about you, and I feel like if you never, like, if you never would have went to treatment centers and got, you know, your mental health all figured out, I wouldn't have known half the stuff. I know. You know, I mean, family week at your treatment centers was huge. I mean, I was with your. Me and your mom cried. We held each other. I mean, me and your dad. Like, it was a huge. It was a girl. It was a. It was a huge, like, catalyst for growth. I felt like I was like, whoa. I wasn't even expecting it either.
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No. And I don't think a lot of people know, too. Like, in our younger years, you know, you and I, we did couples counseling and things of that nature. Not just once, but multiple times.
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B
People thought we were crazy. Remember, my mom's like, you're going to couples counseling. You're 18.
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A
That was in the beginning, though. And that's what I mean as far as, like, we've done it multiple times, though, throughout our relationship and that it's okay if you need help.
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B
Yeah.
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Because we love each other and we want to be with each other forever. We just want to make sure we're the best versions of ourselves. And.
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B
And it's like one of those things where we knew we wanted to be together forever, but we just knew that we almost. It's almost like our souls knew it, but our emotional wisdom needed to catch up.
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It's like, duh, we were little.
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B
Yeah, we're a little. Yeah.
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B
Like, I remember, like, getting so much backlash from my mom and, like, certain people saying, you're 18. Why are you going to couples counseling? People go to couples counseling when they're 30 and 40 in the middle of a divorce, and it's like, no, no.
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A
This should probably do it before you.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Get a divorce.
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B
You know, before you get into the. All the stupid stuff, like. Yeah. And I also feel like we took our time being engaged. We were engaged for, what, 10 years?
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A
Very long time. Yeah.
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B
Yeah. And I. And look at the stuff that happened even after we got married. I mean, I always say that, like, our first year of marriage was one of the hardest. It was years of our whole relationship. That was when you had postpartum.
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Yep.
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That was when all that stuff happened with. With. With all that. And just. It was. It was a lot. You know what I mean? It wasn't.
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Yeah. Plus, like, when you date at a young age and you get engaged at a young age, I don't. I feel like we did it the right way because we truly got to really know about each other on a deep level, and you learn more and more about a person the longer you're with them. So I couldn't imagine, like, getting in a relationship, dating for five months, getting engaged, and then getting married. Like, that's crazy to me.
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B
Which. We know people who've done that.
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A
Yeah.
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And it's weird because those people are now in the middle of. Right on the brink of war. Like, you know, it's like, we definitely knew that that wasn't something we wanted to do, which I feel like.
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Because I didn't feel rushed. It was like, we both know we're committed to each other. You know, why am I rushing to just, you know, get married? Like, I love you, you love me, you don't cheat. I don't cheat.
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B
Here tomorrow. You'll be here tomorrow. Right.
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A
Like, why are we rushing it?
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B
What's the point? I also feel like we. And I. I always tell people, like, I wouldn't have had it any other way. I wouldn't have gotten married sooner. You know, I wouldn't have got like, oh, you. Why didn't you get married before you had Nova? It's like, because we just didn't.
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And it's actually special. She got to be a part of it.
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It was amazing. She's a little wagon. I mean, that's like. I couldn't ask for any better. Flower girl.
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A
Exactly. Seriously. So I think. Yeah, I just think. I think it's Gonna be a good journey, and I think it's gonna be a fun journey. And I'm excited for all these people to kind of go on this journey with us and get to know us on just, like, a journey deeper, more intense level. And it seems so silly saying.
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B
I know it does. It does.
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A
Because I've shared so much intense crap with cameras and hundreds of thousands of people. But it's just different. It's more intimate in, like, who we are. Not at a surface level, but just at this deeper level.
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B
And all the work that's been put in to even get to this point, which is important. Yeah. And I think people didn't really get to see any of that stuff. I mean, yeah, they saw little clips here and there, but it's like, no, there's a lot more going on.
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A
Well, that's like, when people. There is. Yes. And then. And that's like when people, like, notice us on the streets and stuff, and they'll be like, oh, my gosh, I just feel like I know you. Or sometimes they even say, oh, my gosh, I just know you. You know, and it's like, I get that you feel like you know me, you know, because on the surface level, you know me, but you don't know me to my core. What my moral. You probably can't tell me what my morals and my values are, what my ethics are, what my beliefs are like. There's so much more to me than that. And also what's shown on tv.
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B
And also what, you know is through the lens of somebody else.
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A
Yeah.
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B
And somebody else who thought this was important and that wasn't that important. So we're gonna air this instead of that.
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A
Yes. And then we're flipping the script, you know.
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B
Yeah. And I think this gives us more just creative control of our own story.
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A
Yeah. And I think it'll be fun, too, when episodes air for however much longer we're on tv. I don't even know why we're still on tv. We're like old people now. But you know that now we can watch our show and we can talk about those things after the fact and dive deeper into what was going on in our lives at that time and all of the things.
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B
Yeah. It just opens up transparency even more, which I think is why we have kind of gained the following that we've had. We've always been transparent.
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A
Yeah.
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B
I mean, remember season two? I think of Teen Mom. You're like, I don't want to film anymore. This is too intensive.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Of an issue. And I remember Us both thinking about it, like, well, let's just. Let's just see where this goes. Like. And I think that was the first time that me and you, like, made a conscious decision. Like, we will not withhold our own story because we're afraid of what the public is going to perceive us.
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A
Like, you know, and it's because after all that hard stuff aired and that was the hard stuff. What, when we were like, going through a rough spot and breaking up or something. Yeah. Cuz I gave you like my engagement ring in that restaurant and stuff. We were dramatic little kids. No, I'm just kidding. But we were going through a restaurant.
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B
Someone actually wrote me the other day and was like, dude, why did you rip up all those phone records and throw them in the river? Like, oh, yeah, right, dude, papers, biodegradable. Calm down. I did not litter.
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A
It's a part of earth, you know? No, but I think because it's when we. When we decided we were like, okay, we'll share it. I think seeing the aftermath after sharing all those hard things and you seeing the people that related are or was like, oh my gosh, I didn't feel so alone or I've been through that. And it was like, oh, wow, we're actually helping people when you share the hard stuff. And that's what's important to me is like, just not feeling alone.
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B
Yeah. And also, like, I feel like that actually that that feedback has helped us in a way to kind of keep pushing towards healing.
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A
Yeah. I'll always be authentic. I will always be real. I will never lie about things being filmed or talking about it. And I. That's the best way to live it is.
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B
I'm not one to, like, put my own skeletons in my closet. Like the closet doors open, let them all fall out. I'm not doing. Because honestly, that creates this, like, disconnection with. With who you are. And I'm like, dude, I'm not doing that. I think we both agreed early on that we're not gonna do that. Like, we're gonna just lay it all out there and not worry about what people are gonna think. And.
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A
And I think that's what people love about us. And I think that's why people relate to us a lot in different areas, is because we are really just authentic and upfront with who we are as people and our beliefs and what hurts us and all. Every single. We're just open books on everything.
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B
And I also feel like that's not shared among all the cast members. Yeah.
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A
I don't know And I'm not going.
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B
To name names, but there's a lot of cast members on that. On our show that withhold information, refuse to cover certain subjects in their life, refuse to talk about hard things, which.
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A
I get because I've been there, because. And it's scary, but.
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B
But I also feel like if you're trying to come in here in. In. On a reality TV show to share your life, you don't want to share certain things. You probably shouldn't be in a reality TV show, and you should probably double think, you know, reevaluate what you're. What you're doing and what your purpose is. Because if your purpose is to go on reality TV and just come across this perfect, amazing, you know, thing, and then, dude, that's fucking boring TV for one, for two, that ain't real life. You know what I mean? Like, if you're only willing to show all the good stuff and not only a bad stuff, then, yeah.
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A
Speaking of boring, you know what's funny to me is when I see people comment online and stuff and say that our. That our scenes are boring to watch. Part of me is like, thank God it got to a point where it's boring now because my life has been fucking chaos and craziness, and I love that it's boring. And I can predict day to day what I'm doing and what's happening.
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B
It's almost like, I think, oh, it's a compliment. We're boring. Like, all right, dude, because we only spent 15 years going through the trenches, literally behind the camera.
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A
So, so happy to be boring. I'm glad you think I'm boring.
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B
Yeah. We're 32, and now we're boring. Cool, dude. We made it. Like, that's awesome.
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A
And we're in our parenting era. Yeah. Great. I'm glad you think I'm boring, which.
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B
We'Re literally in the trenches of our parenting era.
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A
Oh, God.
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B
Three years old, five years old, and almost ten. Like, we are in. We're in the middle of it.
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A
We're almost out of it. We're almost there.
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B
So if we look tired, that's why.
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A
My kids look cute. And my hair's on a ponytail and no makeup on. Well, because I'm, you know, dressing three kids, doing three kids, hair, making meals, cleaning my house.
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B
Yeah. Or if one of our kid looks like Mowgli, just ignore it. That's what's going on.
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A
Because she is Mowgli. Veda is our Mowgli. Yeah, you know, she's. She just is. But, yeah, that Comment I think is funny. Like, they're so boring. And I'm like, thank you.
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B
Yeah.
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A
I'm so glad you did find that.
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B
I'm boring because we literally spent 15 years just, like, going through crazy shit hell. I guess I feel like, in a way, it's like, if people who are. People who are listening, who don't really know that much about us or whatever, like, what. What would be your main thing? What would you be? Okay, here's who we are and where we're at right now. Like, what would you say?
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A
I think. I think I would start off with, you know, that you and I met when we were in. Started dating, really, in seventh grade. So that was middle school. We met in music class.
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B
Sounds great. Music.
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A
And I had a boyfriend at the time, Carrie.
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B
I know. I remember.
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A
And you had this whole plan in your head that I did not know about. And let's just say I eventually broke up with Carrie, and you just grabbed my hand, and you. That's how you asked me out. You didn't even ask me out. You just grabbed my hand. And I was like, this is it. This is it.
- [22:01]
B
What do you think about. I was so petrified to even ask you out that I just didn't do it. I was like, I'm not gonna ask her out. I'm literally gonna go grab her hand, and if she rips her hand away, I got my answer.
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A
Yeah.
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B
And you just remember you. I grabbed your hand, and we're just.
- [22:15]
A
Like, staring into the abyss, not even at each other.
- [22:18]
B
We're just like. And then it worked because you didn't let go. And I was like, all right, cool, man. She digs me. All right?
- [22:25]
A
I never left.
- [22:26]
B
You never left?
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A
No. So I think the best would be that we are middle school sweethearts who found themselves in an unplanned pregnancy at the age of 16 and decided that we were going to place our daughter for adoption at that age. Because we were surrounded by toxicity and addiction and still kids ourselves. And we thought, you know, that she could have a better life somewhere else. And from there, we have just continued to grow with one another and love each other through all of our ugly stuff, the good stuff, the hard stuff, the happy stuff. And, you know, now it's like, we have been together for 18 years almost, and we have three beautiful girls that we're parenting and one that we see sometimes. And now it's just. It's just crazy to think about where we're at now. When I was just a kid being, like, writing. Writing like, I Love tie on my bell bottom jeans and you know, eighth, seventh grade, you know. Yeah. And it's just, it's been a while. It's been a wild journey. But I truly believe, like, I truly believe people. Some people don't believe in soul mates and stuff. And I'm a very, I'm a very. Yeah, I'm a very big believer that souls do search for certain souls on this planet. And when you find that person, you just know.
- [23:53]
B
Yeah.
- [23:54]
A
And I truly felt like that's what it was for me.
- [23:57]
B
I think you knew before I did.
- [23:59]
A
Yeah. And I was just like, I'm, I'm gonna be with him forever and I'm gonna have his kids and I'm gonna marry him one day and. I know. And even we broke up for like a good eight month period, you know, and then obviously reconnected after that. And I don't know, call me hippie, whatever, but I just had this, I just had this like, spirit.
- [24:23]
B
I, I, I, I see. I think I felt the same thing, but I felt it later on.
- [24:27]
A
Yeah.
- [24:27]
B
Like, not, not as fast as you did. But I do believe, and we've talked about this before, that there's like. I do believe that everyone on this, you know, earth has some kind of spiritual tribe that they go through life with and they're meant to go through life with in every single different life cycle. And I feel like the whole point of each life cycle is to find who those soul tribe members are.
- [24:50]
A
Yeah.
- [24:51]
B
Who you're supposed to traverse this life through. And I think it's interesting because you do feel it. It's not.
- [24:57]
A
Yeah.
- [24:57]
B
It's like you meet someone like, oh, we are best. I don't even know who you are, but I feel connected to you on a level I can't explain. And it's like that's what eventually is what happened with us. And I feel like it was right off, right off the bat. Like, you obviously knew before I did, but when I felt it, I was like, oh, my. All right, this is it. Like, this is no question. I had no question in my mind, which I feel like is important because people, like, will say stuff. We got engaged when we were 17, you know.
- [25:21]
A
Right, right. Yeah. And I was in a prom dress. That's the only nice dress I owned.
- [25:26]
B
No. Didn't she have, like a leather jacket on her? Like, we didn't have.
- [25:29]
A
Who knows, probably. Or my mom's really furry fuzzy jacket.
- [25:33]
B
Who I couldn't remember. But like. Yeah, like, you had the only. I was like, dress fancy.
- [25:36]
A
I know, And I'm like, huh, I guess I'll wear my homecoming dress. I think it was homecoming. Wasn't even.
- [25:41]
B
Yeah, it was a homecoming dress. And then we had to drive the hooptie van that we had that you could only start with a screwdriver that my dad rigged.
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A
It has to be illegal.
- [26:57]
B
Is it illegal?
- [26:58]
A
I think so.
- [26:58]
B
Start your car with a screwdriver.
- [26:59]
A
I think so, though. Yeah, I think it is.
- [27:00]
B
Well, thank God we never got pulled over. Remember though, it like stalling out in the middle of stoplights.
- [27:05]
A
Yeah. How scary would be that happened to me? My phone. Yeah. No, horrible, but, yeah.
- [27:11]
B
Like, it's one of those things where it's like, that's why. That's why I had to propose at 17, even though everyone thought I was crazy, because I felt that soul thing, it was there. It's like I. I wanted to know that, like, I love you, want to be with you for my life. And that's it.
- [27:26]
A
Yeah.
- [27:26]
B
And I thought, like, why not? You know? And I remember my mom just being pissed. She was so pissed. She's like, you're an idiot. What are you doing?
- [27:35]
A
Your mom actually got your mom. I mean, in the beginning, like when we were younger, in our relationship, your mom actually got mad at me for a lot of things, didn't she?
- [27:42]
B
Yeah.
- [27:43]
A
Yeah. And we talk about it now and laugh about it, but there was multiple times in our relationship where she was like, you're crazy.
- [27:49]
B
Yeah.
- [27:49]
A
Just like when I was forced to move out of my house at the age of. You know, I was about to turn 18, and my mom's looking at places, and the landlords are telling my mom, like, well, if she's going to be 18, she has to be on the lease with you, too. And I'm. I was thinking in my head like that my mom, she don't even. Sometimes don't even pay your rent, let alone we're getting evicted left and right. I don't want that on my record.
- [28:10]
B
You know, I've only been evicted five times this year. Like, how about.
- [28:13]
A
And then when. And then I'll never forget I told you. I said, I'm moving out. I can't do it. Can't be with my mom. I'm getting my own place. And you're like, well, I'm coming with you. And I'll never forget going to your house and telling your mom that. And she straight up was talking to you. And then she looks at me and she goes, you need to tell him no. I was like, I'm not telling him. He has to. You're. You're his mother. You tell him no. Like, what. How much she was so mad at me.
- [28:38]
B
Do you remember when we got our first apartment and we tried to get Comcast. Oh, and then we found out that your mom put Comcast in your name and you were, like, blacklisted.
- [28:46]
A
Yeah.
- [28:46]
B
And we didn't know because we owed, like, two. Remember, they said, oh, yeah, you owe $2,000.
- [28:50]
A
Something like that.
- [28:51]
B
In case. I remember you being like, I've never had Comcast. And they're like, oh, you had it for, like, two years. And you're like, what?
- [28:56]
A
I said, I'm a child, bro. I was able to get Comcast on my name when I'm 15, 16 years old. It makes no sense.
- [29:02]
B
Like, and then we found out that that's because, you know, obviously your mom used your name to. To put a.
- [29:06]
A
So that's. You know, that just goes to show you that I'm. I was. When all these landlords were like, you need to be on a lease. I'm like, absolutely not on my own. And then I tell you that. And then your mom's yelling at me, you need to tell him. No. I'm like, I didn't tell him. Yes. He's just saying he's coming. Like, what do you.
- [29:19]
B
I never tell my mom. I was like, yo, mom moving out with her. I don't Know what? I don't know. You can't stop.
- [29:23]
A
You would have been there all the time anyways. Are you kidding me? Your girlfriend's got her own apartment.
- [29:26]
B
Yeah, and I had a car. Yeah, and I don't think you had a car at that. At that point.
- [29:29]
A
No. You were probably still driving me around.
- [29:31]
B
Yeah, because you don't want to get your license.
- [29:32]
A
I know.
- [29:32]
B
I had to say, hey, you gotta get your license eventually. Why? You can just drive me around everywhere.
- [29:36]
A
I know. So crazy, all the crap.
- [29:38]
B
You. How to drive and parking in the parking lot. I think it was across the street from Holy Cross. Oh, in that?
- [29:44]
A
Yeah, the big parking lot.
- [29:45]
B
And you were horrible at parking, you know?
- [29:47]
A
I still am. What did I do today?
- [29:49]
B
You hit a curb today.
- [29:50]
A
The curb hit me. The curb hit me.
- [29:53]
B
And then when the. When you hit the curb, it. You kept turning the wheel towards the curb. I said, you can't get closer to the curb. You hear the grinding of the metal. We're there. It's done. I know.
- [30:03]
A
And then you turned it away. And I was like, oh, I didn't know you had to do that.
- [30:06]
B
Oh, God.
- [30:07]
A
And I've been driving for years.
- [30:09]
B
Yeah.
- [30:09]
A
So it is funny. I think it's gonna be funny to dive deeper into all of these little things, like, just even stuff that we did and went through before cameras were even a part of our life.
- [30:21]
B
You know, I think people forget that, too, that, like, you know, we lived a whole 15 years of our life before cameras were ever involved.
- [30:27]
A
Right.
- [30:27]
B
It's a whole thing, so.
- [30:28]
A
And I think that'll be fun, like, giving more backstory to who we are and what we went through and different, you know, hard stuff we went through as kids and growing up and just all of the. All of the things. All of the things, as people can see. I'm gonna say it again, because as we've been conversating, we're all over the damn place.
- [30:49]
B
Are we?
- [30:50]
A
Yes. It's ADHD on crack. Okay. Basically, that sums it up. Who knows? One week we might be talking about marriage. Next week might be talking about traumas we went through before cameras were around or even good things or who the knows.
- [31:05]
B
We're just. We're here for the ride.
- [31:07]
A
I feel like what our main thing is is speaking about things that we're passionate about and not like we're, you know, doctors or psychologists or therapists even. It's literally adoption experts or whatever. No, it's literally just like being. Getting educated on ourselves about things, bringing people in who are educated on it. Talking about things that we're passionate about and that make us feel good and make us feel like we're doing a difference in. In the world. Really?
- [31:33]
B
Yeah. And also, like, I think it's cool that we're gonna be able to dive into, like, how we parent. Like, I know that they see our children on tv, but you don't see a little talks that we have with our kids.
- [31:42]
A
No. Only me be. I think they've only seen, like, three or four talks.
- [31:46]
B
Yeah. Like, and, you know, that's a whole different, like, ball game. Because we.
- [31:49]
A
That needs to be a whole episode.
- [31:51]
B
Yeah. Because we really don't know. We never seen parenting.
- [31:54]
A
No.
- [31:54]
B
The way we parent. We had to, like, develop our own parenting style from the ground up.
- [31:59]
A
Yeah.
- [31:59]
B
So even I had no example. You had no example. Like, so I remember when we first had Nova, it was scary. Like, it felt scary to, like, okay, now I gotta just figure this out. Like, I didn't have a dad. I don't know how to be a dad. I never had a dad. I don't even know what that's like.
- [32:14]
A
Right.
- [32:14]
B
You know what I mean? Like, so.
- [32:17]
A
So talking about all of that stuff.
- [32:19]
B
Yeah. I think it's important because it gives more context to, like, who we are as people.
- [32:23]
A
Yeah.
- [32:23]
B
And honestly, I want people to know that we're still a work in progress. And I think we're always going to be a work in progress. So human. Yeah. You just gotta, like, just. Just hang on. We're gonna. You're just gonna take this ride with us, and it's gonna be. It's gonna be fun, and it's gonna.
- [32:38]
A
Probably, you know, if we fail, we fail. You know me, I just have to.
- [32:45]
B
Have a. Yeah, well, failure is part of success.
- [32:48]
A
Yes, sir. So, I mean, I'm just kidding. I had to throw was like, the perfect opportunity to just spit it out.
- [32:54]
B
And I honestly think, like, we need to get, like, our family members on here.
- [32:58]
A
Oh, for sure.
- [32:58]
B
Like, I definitely got to get my dad on here.
- [33:00]
A
Your sister.
- [33:01]
B
Yeah. Like, let's let. Let. Let's dive into some. I think it'd be cool to get.
- [33:05]
A
I don't talk to any of my siblings.
- [33:07]
B
You can talk to your sister Amber. Okay. You have a sister Amber for you.
- [33:11]
A
That's the only one out of five, but yeah, I think my grandma would be a good one, too.
- [33:19]
B
Get your grandma on here.
- [33:20]
A
Yeah.
- [33:20]
B
Get Deb on here.
- [33:22]
A
Yeah.
- [33:22]
B
Deb is.
- [33:23]
A
Aunt Dawn. Would be hilarious. All you. These people don't even know who these people are.
- [33:26]
B
Well, they're about to.
- [33:27]
A
Yes, they will. You just gotta stay tuned for that. But, yeah. So it's gonna be very broad. And I like that. I don't want to be talking about the same thing every single week or.
- [33:36]
B
Boxed into, like, just adoption. Yeah. I just. I just want it to be. I want it to flow. And I wanted to be kind of like, how mean you are. When we're up in our bedroom for two hours, my mom's like, what do you guys do up there?
- [33:49]
A
Yeah. The other day she said.
- [33:50]
B
Yeah. She's like, what do you guys go up there? I thought you guys went to sleep. I'm like, no, we sit there and talk for two hours.
- [33:54]
A
Yeah. Or watch tv.
- [33:55]
B
Yeah. I also feel like. Like we've been together for so long, so how the hell can we keep talking that much? At the end of the day, it's.
- [34:03]
A
Like, love is love.
- [34:06]
B
Except when I go on my little tangent. So we just gotta bear with me, people. I have a lot of little.
- [34:11]
A
Yeah.
- [34:13]
B
Branches that I have to talk about.
- [34:15]
A
If he starts going too hardcore, we're just gonna have to, like, get a light or something. Or like a buzzer. There's like, eat me.
- [34:23]
B
Maybe after a couple episodes, listeners would be like, yeah, you know what, Tyler? Your wife's right. Get the damn red button. You gotta have a red button. Shut up. You're talking.
- [34:30]
A
Or a shut up button where you press it. It's like, shut up.
- [34:32]
B
Shut up.
- [34:33]
A
Yeah. You know what I mean?
- [34:34]
B
Do I need that? I need that so bad.
- [34:37]
A
I'd be using that thing on the daily. Not even just on the podcast for you. And shut up.
- [34:43]
B
She's a lot like me when it comes to that.
- [34:45]
A
She is. Yes.
- [34:46]
B
Don't you love that, though?
- [34:47]
A
I do. I do love that about her.
- [34:48]
B
Yeah, She's. She's a pretty cool kid.
- [34:51]
A
She. All of our kids are great.
- [34:52]
B
I think it'd be kind of fun even to get her on the podcast.
- [34:54]
A
Oh, she would be a blast, wouldn't she?
- [34:56]
B
Like, like, even, like, maybe give her her own segment, like, you know, once or something. Yeah.
- [35:02]
A
Did you know?
- [35:03]
B
Yeah, Novas did, you know? Yeah.
- [35:05]
A
You know, she always does it. You do the same thing. But she doesn't does it too, all the time.
- [35:08]
B
But it'd be fun to hear a kid's perspective because she's always coming up to me with these facts. I'm like, dude, Nova, where did you.
- [35:14]
A
And then I'll Google those facts. And she's always right.
- [35:16]
B
I know. I know.
- [35:17]
A
And it blows my mind.
- [35:18]
B
Yeah, I know. Because she'll actually come to me and be like. She'll tell me things that, like, I didn't even know or that I'll debate, and she'll be like. I'm like, dang, you got me there. You really got me.
- [35:29]
A
Yep.
- [35:30]
B
I can't explain that.
- [35:31]
A
You know, and then I'll Google them, because I'm like, there's no way in hell that's real. But that's true. And then I Google, and I'm like, oh, she was right.
- [35:38]
B
I know. It's crazy. She's a smart kid.
- [35:40]
A
She is. She's awesome.
- [35:41]
B
She's really smart.
- [35:41]
A
I freaking love her.
- [35:42]
B
But honestly, I feel like. So I think going forward, like, I. I have a couple people figured out, and I think it's important for people to know going forward that you're gonna bring on guests or people that, you know for things that you find interesting. I have a couple people lined up. You know, neuroscientists, I was gonna say.
- [36:00]
A
Because also, you and I have a lot of the same interests, which is good.
- [36:03]
B
Yeah.
- [36:04]
A
You know, like. Yeah. So you have that neuroscientist who's neuroscience.
- [36:07]
B
I'm just trying to give, like, a. Just random examples of what people can expect. But, like, you know, I have a neuroscientist who's an adoptee. I have a psychedelic expert psychologist that I would like to bring on.
- [36:19]
A
That'd be awesome.
- [36:20]
B
And just talk about different methods. I think we've gone through enough therapy ourselves to where I think people need to know these other alt, alternative methods. Like, you know, and I think even the therapy world alone is growing and evolving and changing, and I think that's something that I want to use this platform to get out there.
- [36:37]
A
Absolutely.
- [36:38]
B
And just show people that this is what is available to you now. And I would love to have Dr.
- [36:43]
A
Mike Dow come on.
- [36:44]
B
Yeah.
- [36:45]
A
And talk about just, like, you know, trauma and the way that it shapes you and your brain, and even that neuroscientist would be good for that.
- [36:51]
B
Yeah.
- [36:52]
A
Also just like, different people. Maybe even some people that, you know, like, we have some ideas in our head of. Of people that aren't even known, but we can have really great conversations with these people and bring awareness to a lot of different situations.
- [37:05]
B
Oh, yeah.
- [37:07]
A
So, yeah, there might even be people on here that you never heard of, but now you go and look them up and you're like, oh, whoa.
- [37:13]
B
Yeah, I think we've had enough life experience to where we can attack a lot of different. We can just attack a lot of different Subjects. A lot of different things.
- [37:22]
A
Yeah.
- [37:23]
B
That I think people will find.
- [37:24]
A
Isn't that kind of sad? Because we're still young, but we have been through so much.
- [37:28]
B
We're young.
- [37:29]
A
Yes. 30. Yes.
- [37:31]
B
Is 32 young?
- [37:32]
A
We're definitely young to have as much like life experience as we've had and that the. All of the crap we've been through, we've been through a lot.
- [37:41]
B
Well, I'm 32, but I feel 55 or whatever.
- [37:46]
A
Like mentally, you mean? Yeah, yeah, like mentally. Like wiseness, you mean?
- [37:50]
B
Yeah, yeah. I mean, I have 32, but I feel like we live like a life for the 50 year old or something.
- [37:55]
A
That's what I mean. Because we've been through so many things in our lives that you do, you feel. Or maybe we were just born with old souls.
- [38:02]
B
Yeah, maybe.
- [38:03]
A
I don't know because I swear that's like. Nova's got an old soul.
- [38:07]
B
She does. Yeah. She's pretty wise for her age.
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- [38:40]
B
That's why it was funny when we were talking to Kale and I was like, yeah, like the whole Stardust thing. And she was like, no way. And she googled that. Like, see, dude, I told you it was right.
- [38:48]
A
Yeah, you know, Exactly. You wouldn't think that. People look at us like we're crazy.
- [38:51]
B
You can get Neil Degrasse Tyson on here. That'd be so.
- [38:55]
A
You would love that. Yeah, I would be.
- [38:56]
B
Dude, I. Now you talk about fangirling. I think, oh, my God, I'd be tripping out. Would that be so dope?
- [39:03]
A
I mean, you could always reach out to him.
- [39:05]
B
Yeah, I got. I also reached out to Dan McClellan, which is. He's a. He's a scholar of the Bible and all religions. And I want to get him to talk on here. Yeah, I want to. I. I want to make this platform multi. Like, I just want. I want different. Different avid. I don't want it to be boxed in by anything.
- [39:24]
A
I don't want to be restoring.
- [39:25]
B
Yeah. I don't want to be restricted by beliefs. I want it to be.
- [39:28]
A
I want to be able to just hop on one day and be like, dude, those kids drive me insane today. You want to know why? And then tell you the story. You know what I mean? I want to be all over.
- [39:35]
B
Yeah, it's. I mean, it's. What's. What we're, you know, what we're doing it for. So. It's been a long time coming.
- [39:41]
A
It has.
- [39:41]
B
But I feel like.
- [39:42]
A
I feel good to just talk.
- [39:45]
B
Yeah.
- [39:45]
A
And you talk a lot, so I don't think.
- [39:49]
B
Listen.
- [39:49]
A
He's gonna have any issue with that.
- [39:51]
B
You don't think I'm gonna have an issue with talking?
- [39:53]
A
No, not at all.
- [39:54]
B
Well, you know.
- [39:55]
A
Okay, well, hey, in the relationship, I'm definitely more of the introverted, keep to myself type person. Yeah.
- [40:00]
B
But I wish I had more of your. Like, you're so, like, chill and like, you're like.
- [40:06]
A
And like, when someone traumatized Pisces in me, I guess I should say you're just fluid.
- [40:11]
B
You just like, chill and like. I don't know, people ask you a question, you're like, yeah, yeah. And I'm just like, oh, yeah, you get off. Like, I feel almost like I'm hyper wired and you're just like, chill.
- [40:20]
A
I'm definitely more. Go with the flow. Yeah. And you're more.
- [40:23]
B
See, I wish I had more of.
- [40:24]
A
That all over the place.
- [40:25]
B
I respect your ability to, like, just be where I'm always like, a place.
- [40:33]
A
And I respect your ability to, you know, see and ask and. Because I'm just not.
- [40:39]
B
Even though you get tired of it, don't you? Don't I get annoying after a while.
- [40:42]
A
I wouldn't say it's annoying. I just feel like when you.
- [40:44]
B
How is that possible? I annoy myself in my head. So how the hell do you not get annoyed?
- [40:49]
A
I'm not like that. Maybe, but it doesn't annoy me. Now when you go on, like, rants about science stuff and don't hate on science, man. I'm not. I'm not. But I can only listen for so long and then after a while I'm like, interested to a point.
- [41:10]
B
And then you just clock out, don't you?
- [41:12]
A
Sometimes.
- [41:13]
B
Yeah, you do. That's why I say blue monkey.
- [41:15]
A
Oh, God. You knew this. Blue monkey.
- [41:17]
B
I'm telling you, man, I want everyone to try it.
- [41:20]
A
My word for you is going to be like, green pig.
- [41:23]
B
I listen very. I will always pick up on your green pig. Yes, I will. You say green test me.
- [41:31]
A
I will.
- [41:32]
B
All right, good. Do it. I always listen with intent. It's important the. Yeah. Start that trend.
- [41:40]
A
I know. I thought about doing it to you.
- [41:41]
B
You should have did it. Tick tock.
- [41:43]
A
I know.
- [41:43]
B
We're gonna get into that.
- [41:44]
A
You always say I suck at, like, acting.
- [41:46]
B
You're pretty bad. You're like. When you act like something bad. Oh, my God. I'm like, dude, no, nothing's going on because you. What you do is you go, oh. Your face gets more animated than ever in real life. I'm like, dude, that's. No, it's probably.
- [42:02]
A
I can't. I won't be able to, like, trick you with any trends or anything, because you just know me too well.
- [42:08]
B
You just gotta be really good, get better at acting because you do something.
- [42:12]
A
I don't know. I don't even know how that's possible.
- [42:16]
B
Well, we'll figure it out. We're gonna get on this new tick Tock trend, too, because I'm. I'm a new Tick Tocker.
- [42:21]
A
It's kind of fun. We made.
- [42:22]
B
It is kind of fun. We did the little leg thing.
- [42:25]
A
Oh, that one.
- [42:27]
B
The whole Dance over the stars.
- [42:28]
A
Yeah, that one.
- [42:30]
B
Your leg literally collapsed like an accordion.
- [42:33]
A
You were giving me Indian burn.
- [42:35]
B
I had to grab hold of your ankle.
- [42:37]
A
Well, it hurt.
- [42:38]
B
Well, I had to get a hold of that and yank it.
- [42:41]
A
You and Macy did great. I'd watch that 10 times before I ever do it again.
- [42:45]
B
I know. I didn't get to see me and Macy do it. Like, it looked. Was it smooth? Felt smooth?
- [42:50]
A
Yeah, it looked smooth. Yeah.
- [42:51]
B
All right, cool.
- [42:52]
A
I mean, not as, like.
- [42:56]
B
No, they showed me the original video this whole day, and she was, like, arching her back. She's like a rising ballerina from dead or something. I'm like, what the.
- [43:03]
A
And she's probably fit as, obviously.
- [43:05]
B
That takes some core.
- [43:06]
A
Yeah. She's a dancer. I ain't got none of that.
- [43:08]
B
No, you're so. You're first off. But I'm looking down at you. Your tits are pretty much suffocating.
- [43:13]
A
They are.
- [43:13]
B
We're gonna pull your ass up and your leg just collapses.
- [43:16]
A
My tits are in my eyes. Are.
- [43:19]
B
You have your thought. I mean, reduction. You ever thought about it? I know you talked about it.
- [43:22]
A
I've definitely thought about it a lot. Yeah. I'm just a.
- [43:27]
B
About what? But getting cut open.
- [43:29]
A
Yeah.
- [43:31]
B
Yeah.
- [43:31]
A
And the pain afterwards. Yeah, but it's weird. How come anytime I've ever had surgery, I always end up having Anxiety after. I don't know, Weird thing, but I.
- [43:43]
B
Feel like after four kids ripping through your vagina walls. Yeah. I think you could get your tits cut off.
- [43:49]
A
Probably. I mean, there is, like, a cheer mom at my cheer place, and she got a reduction.
- [43:54]
B
She did?
- [43:54]
A
Yeah.
- [43:54]
B
Okay.
- [43:55]
A
She said it was the best thing she's ever done, and she said recovery wasn't that bad, but I'm still scared. And also, they move your nipples. And what happens if my nipples falls off?
- [44:03]
B
What do you. Whoa, whoa. What do you mean they move?
- [44:05]
A
Sometimes you'll have to, like. Sometimes they will, like, cut your nipples off, like, replace them.
- [44:10]
B
What the are you talking about?
- [44:12]
A
And then if that dies, then you're going to have me. A nippleless nipple.
- [44:20]
B
A nippleless titty. Like, no, dude. Okay. I did not. I don't.
- [44:25]
A
That's almost like, when people get. What is that called? Mastectomies? Is that what that's called? Yeah, like my trans friend, you know?
- [44:32]
B
Yeah.
- [44:33]
A
He got a. He got his boobs chopped off, and they took the nipples off of his breasts and sewed them back onto his chest in the.
- [44:41]
B
In a different spot.
- [44:42]
A
Well, no, originally would be. Well, because. No, no. But your boobs off, so now it's flat. You have to sew the nipple back onto the chest. And he even said, like, that. You know, sometimes it's like a. It's like a skin graph almost. So if the skin decides to not take. Your nipples are gonna fall off or die. The skin would die. So I'm like, what if they have to move my nipples and then I just end up like a nippleless titty girl?
- [45:13]
B
Listen, I will still love you with no nipples. Nipple. A city girl.
- [45:17]
A
I would cry.
- [45:18]
B
I don't think that's gonna happen. I really don't. What are the odds of the nipple getting cut off? I don't know.
- [45:24]
A
I could be just talking to my ass.
- [45:25]
B
I think you are. Anyone who's had a reduction, can you please confirm or deny if this is.
- [45:30]
A
Like, reach out to me on Instagram.
- [45:33]
B
Nipple is city girl.
- [45:34]
A
Yeah, about to. I need to look it up because I swear, I don't think.
- [45:38]
B
I think you're thinking of a different surgery or something. To be honest.
- [45:41]
A
I don't know. All I know is, I just. I mean, nipples are weird.
- [45:44]
B
But how do you know where to place it? Because everyone's perceptions are different. This doctor might be. I think it looks better over here. And then this girl's like, it looks better over there. Like, what the. How do you determine where the. The nipple Goes, yeah, right.
- [45:54]
A
Do one. I have to be up. Like, let me stand up.
- [45:56]
B
Yeah.
- [45:57]
A
Are you going to have, like, one.
- [45:58]
B
Nipple up here because you laid down, somebody stayed out.
- [46:01]
A
Like, then you got googly eyes looking at you.
- [46:04]
B
Oh, mismatched nipples.
- [46:07]
A
Oh, my God. Do you remove. Also, I really would like to bring. I really would like to bring Nolan on here.
- [46:17]
B
Yeah, bring Nolan on here.
- [46:19]
A
And that is my friend, because he's.
- [46:22]
B
In the middle of transitioning, and I think it'd be kind of cool, though.
- [46:24]
A
Yeah. And towards. He's towards the end of his transition, so I think it would be interesting.
- [46:27]
B
Oh, really?
- [46:28]
A
I mean, yeah, he got top surgery done, and that was as far as he wanted to go with it.
- [46:33]
B
But let me ask you a question. Is it like a. Do you know if, like, has no one told you at all about that kind of stuff or.
- [46:39]
A
As in. What do you mean?
- [46:40]
B
Like, I don't know if he's mentioned, like, when. How do you know when there's an end to a transition?
- [46:46]
A
It's as far as they want to go.
- [46:47]
B
Oh, okay. All right.
- [46:48]
A
Some. You know, some people are like, I want to go fully for it and do bottom surgery and all.
- [46:53]
B
Okay.
- [46:53]
A
And other people are like, no, I'm okay with that.
- [46:56]
B
Yeah. And by the way, people who don't know, Nolan is a close friend of Kate's who.
- [47:00]
A
Yeah, he's trans and he's, you know, he has a partner and they have a baby.
- [47:04]
B
Yeah.
- [47:05]
A
Yeah.
- [47:05]
B
Pretty interesting story.
- [47:07]
A
It is very interesting. And it's crazy because these people walk around us on the daily. And I never would have known that Nolan was trans unless he told me.
- [47:14]
B
Wow.
- [47:15]
A
You know what I mean? Like, I. And he's a great person. Yeah, a great person. So, no, nipples are not usually removed during breast reduction surgery.
- [47:24]
B
Okay. Told you, man.
- [47:25]
A
So is that a lift or something? I don't know. I'm afraid of my nipples falling off.
- [47:29]
B
Your nipples ain't gonna fall off.
- [47:31]
A
What if you can't feel your nipples anymore?
- [47:33]
B
Do you care? You don't let me touch them anyway. You're like, shut up.
- [47:38]
A
Don't tell people.
- [47:42]
B
Which I think is. Well, let me just. Around a little bit. You're like, no, it's too much.
- [47:47]
A
No, I don't like it.
- [47:49]
B
Lame. So see, your nipples are safe. You will never be a nippleless titty.
- [47:56]
A
Oh, I guess, like, some people will. Most what Google says. But sometimes you can like, resize your nipples. Like, say if you're, like, a person that has really big. Come on. You've seen a big Ass. Salami nipple. Nipple before. Yeah. I mean, so Google is saying sometimes.
- [48:12]
B
No shades and no salami nipples. I just, you know, ain't my thing.
- [48:16]
A
Your face was definitely shade, bro. But I'm just saying I would, I'm just saying if I didn't like how big my nipples were, I guess I would like to resize them if I'm getting a production.
- [48:27]
B
Don't resize your nipples. I think they're normal and fine. Don't be crazy. Okay.
- [48:31]
A
I wouldn't do that for myself. I'm just saying it was interesting to me because Google said that you can. They can reduce the size of your nipple to restore a more round and normal looking shape while you're getting a reduction.
- [48:43]
B
I mean, I know dudes have like gyno and stuff like that, but. Oh, like, I don't know. Anyway, whatever. We're getting. What the. See what I'm saying? ADHD on crack. We're talking about nipples now.
- [48:53]
A
See, because we can't talk about a certain topic together and then not dive in deep into it.
- [48:57]
B
Well, now you're googling nipple is city. So.
- [49:00]
A
Yeah, I'm not googling nippley titty. I was looking it up as if. If do they move your nipples when you get a reduction? And I got the answer of no. I thought that they would have to do that because these are like orangutan tits.
- [49:13]
B
I mean, they are.
- [49:15]
A
They're like in my armpit if I.
- [49:16]
B
Don'T have a girl on a weapon in themselves.
- [49:18]
A
Oh, I've slapped you with them before.
- [49:19]
B
So, you know, it's actually dense.
- [49:21]
A
All the. We're gonna talk about.
- [49:23]
B
Oh, anyway, but listen. Okay, so stay tuned for part two of Big Titty.
- [49:30]
A
No, I'm just kidding. And we'll see, you know, by the end of this journey if Kate gets a reduction or not. Just kidding. I don't know. It might happen one day.
- [49:40]
B
Maybe.
- [49:41]
A
My back hurts.
- [49:42]
B
Yeah, it's a daily struggle.
- [49:44]
A
It is. I think that's actually a good thing to talk about too. So I'm excited for it. I think we're gonna have fun. It's gonna be funny. I'm sure there's gonna be tears, there's gonna be laughs.
- [49:55]
B
Don't make me cry. Please don't make me cry. I can't talk.
- [49:58]
A
Talk. I know, but I'm just saying there's gonna be tears, there's gonna be laughter, there's gonna be funny things. Probably things that are going to be said that people don't agree with.
- [50:07]
B
And we're used to that controversy sells, so.
- [50:11]
A
But I'm looking forward to this journey with you and I think it's going to be fun and I think we're gonna learn a lot through it. And I think other people can learn a lot of different things too.
- [50:20]
B
Yeah, just, just stay in the ride with us and have fun. So you can find Kate and Ty, break it down. And wherever you find your podcast, Apple, Spotify, Instagram, break it down on Instagram and Tik Tok and all that good stuff.
- [50:34]
A
Yeah, we're on every social media platform and it's Kate and Ty, break it down. And I look forward to chatting with people on those web pages and asking questions and getting feedback. So definitely reach out to us.
- [50:46]
B
Yeah, reach out to us in DMS and comments and let us know what you want us to talk about. Love you.
- [50:51]
A
Love you, beach.
- [50:53]
B
And we're out.