Our Furry Soulmates & Listener Confessions

Summary

Cate & Ty Break It Down

Episode: Our Furry Soulmates & Listener Confessions
Date: August 20, 2025
Hosts: Catelynn & Tyler Baltierra
Podcast: PodcastOne

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Overview

In this heartfelt and candid episode, Catelynn and Tyler open up about the recent loss of their beloved family dog, reflecting on the deep bonds between humans and their pets, the pain of grief, and the ways animals shape their lives. The couple shares stories about their pets past and present—often with humor and warmth—while also fielding anonymous, outrageous, and touching listener confessions. The episode is a raw mix of tears, laughter, and real talk on grief, family, spirituality, and human nature.

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Episode Highlights & Key Topics

1. Grieving the Loss of a Furry Family Member

(00:30 – 14:00)

• Catelynn shares the loss of her 16½-year-old dog, Caddy:
  • Caddy passed away three days prior, dying in Catelynn’s arms, which was both “beautiful but also traumatizing at the same time.” (01:09)
  • The dog entered Catelynn’s life soon after placing Carly for adoption. “She was just like my baby. She was with me through everything.” (01:10)
• Tyler and Catelynn reflect on the inevitability of losing pets:
  • “Why the hell do we do this to ourselves?” (Catelynn, 01:24)
  • “We know our heartbreak is inevitable, and we do it anyway.” (Tyler, 03:45)
• Unexpected death despite Caddy’s apparent vitality:
  • “I don’t think you expected it, because she was acting completely normal... wasn’t limping, wasn’t gasping, wasn’t doing nothing.” (Tyler, 01:54)
• Death lived and mourned in real time:
  • They rushed Caddy to the vet, but “she just passed away in my arms in the car.” (Catelynn, 02:49)
  • Tyler comforts Catelynn: “She wouldn’t have had an easy passing within anyone else's arms.” (03:03)
• Finding gratitude amidst grief:
  • “Try to find some gratitude in it.” (Tyler, 05:03)
  • Catelynn shares hope for spiritual signs from Caddy and interprets a surprise gift—a stained glass chihuahua sent by a friend—as a possible “sign” from her lost pup. (06:29)
• The irreplaceable bond:
  • “She was with me through all the sh*t I was going through when I got her, like, she was our baby.” (Catelynn, 07:59)

2. Emotional Impact on Family & Parenting Through Loss

(13:28 – 16:48)

• How the kids handle pet loss:
  • Tyler jokes, “I’m a little like, hey, will you be a little more sad?” describing their children’s pragmatic reactions. (13:29)
  • The children are focused on comforting Catelynn, with Nova “always trying to make you feel better,” and Rya confused and quietly concerned by her mother’s grief. (14:01)
  • Catelynn feels it’s healthy for the kids to see real emotion, noting, “It’s okay for the kids to see you sad. Yeah, I think it’s healthy.” (14:09)
• Memories of “starting out” with pets:
  • Reminisce about spending their last cash in their early years to buy Caddy and “having milk crates as a couch.” (15:13)
  • “She cost me like $600… and we did it ‘cause she looked exactly like Spike.” (15:24)

3. Daily Life & Coping Strategies

(16:48 – 20:43)

• Navigating life while grieving:
  • The day of Caddy’s death involved juggling loss with practicalities—“We had orientation, by the way, for Nova’s middle school… It was overwhelming, to be honest.” (16:22)
  • Praise for their local veterinary clinic and the empathy shown by the vet tech: “You guys are amazing pet owners… you love your pets and you’re amazing.” (18:17)

4. More Pet Tales: Cats, Chaos & Furry Antics

(20:43 – 26:12)

• Other pets in the Baltierra household:
  • Discussion of the differences between dogs and cats in how they handle—or hide—the end of life.
  • Tyler’s evolving relationship with their cat, Shadow, from annoyance (“I didn’t want the cat”) to genuine affection (“she just picked me… her persistence paid off”).
  • Shadow’s wild side: “I wouldn’t be surprised one day she brings up a bald eagle.” (25:15)
  • Stories of Shadow hunting—catching bunnies, blue jays, and even trying to bring a squirrel inside.

5. Children Growing Up, Milestones, and Parental Reflection

(26:12 – 35:17)

• Upcoming events & shifting family routines:
  • Preparing for Raya’s fourth birthday party, with a Little Mermaid theme, and the start of a new school year for the kids.
  • Reflections on the bittersweetness of the “last baby” hitting milestones:
    • “When you have your last baby, the new firsts are your last.” (28:14)
    • Tyler admits to counting how many times he hugs or holds the youngest now. (28:46)
• Nova and Tyler’s shopping trip:
  • Heartwarming father-daughter bonding in a department store dressing room, culminating with a stranger saying, “You’re such a good dad.” (31:10)
  • Tyler prioritizes Nova’s own style and self-confidence: “Your opinion matters, not mine. You like it? I’m not answering unless you tell me if you like it first.” (30:45)

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6. Listener Confessions

(35:34 – 48:30)

• Transition to anonymous, sometimes outrageous crowd submissions, mixing humor and serious reflection.
• Notable listener confessions include:
  • Someone requested to be defecated on by a partner—Catelynn reads the story and Tyler is hilariously disgusted.
    • “This is the stuff that makes you question our species… This is where we haven't evolved!” (Tyler, 37:01)
  • Adultery confession: An engaged listener admits to a fling with a coworker. Both hosts are blunt:
    • “That’s messed up. You should probably break off the engagement.” (Catelynn, 38:56)
    • Tyler responds: “You owe it to them. Engage in the fling—maybe it’s your soulmate, who f*cking knows, but you should do some self-reflection.” (39:03)
  • Adoption secret: Adoption mom tells her family twins died, when actually she placed them for adoption—sparks a somber moment.
  • “I pick my nose and eat my boogers”: Tyler’s disgust is palpable—“You are the bottom of the abysmal disgust.” (40:30)
  • Listener says, “I’m getting divorced after 35 years. You guys gave me the strength.”
    • Both hosts are awed by the gravity/impact and wish her well.
    • “Maybe keep us updated… I would love to hear where you’re at five months down the line.” (Tyler, 41:57)
  • Intern’s affair with married pastor (which “blew up”):
    • “You be… God told me you can’t be doing that because you’re contributing to this.” (Tyler, 43:16)
    • Discussion on hypocrisy and drama in religious communities, referencing scandals in organized religion.
  • Twin Flames & Curses: Listener believes her “twin flame” is under a love curse.
    • Explanations of the twin flame concept both as “soulmate” and cautionary tales about related cults and Netflix documentaries.
    • Tyler analogizes the power of curses/prayer: “Prayer is just a really intense manifestation technique.” (49:02)

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• Catelynn on pet grief:

  • “She literally died in my arms… beautiful but then also traumatizing at the same time.” (01:09)
  • “Why the hell do we do this to ourselves?” (01:26)

• Tyler’s empathy:

  • “She didn’t want to… she wouldn’t have had an easy passing in anyone else’s arms.” (03:03)
  • “We know our heartbreak is inevitable, and we do it anyway.” (03:45)
  • “Your opinion matters, not mine. You like it? I’m not answering unless you tell me if you like it first.” (30:45)

• On spirituality and signs:

  • “I personally think that animals reincarnate and come back and try to find their person, their soul tribe.” (Catelynn, 05:43)
  • “That’s divine intervention right there.” (Tyler, 10:48)

• On moving forward:

  • “Life just keeps moving every day. All of a sudden the sun still rises.” (Tyler, 16:07)

• On confessions:

  • “This is the stuff that makes you question our species… This is where we haven’t evolved!” (Tyler, 37:01)
  • “Guess what? I don’t trust you as an adult.” (Tyler, 40:58 – about eating boogers)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Pet Loss & Grief: 00:30 – 14:00
• Kids & Grief: 13:28 – 16:48
• Juggling Family & Life Changes: 16:48 – 20:43
• Pet Antics (Shadow, the cat): 20:43 – 26:12
• Milestones & Parenthood Reflections: 26:12 – 35:17
• Listener Confessions: 35:34 – 48:30
  • Bodily fluids confession: 36:06
  • Infidelity confession: 38:47
  • Adoption secrecy: 39:58
  • Divorce after 35 years: 41:23
  • Pastor affair: 42:49
  • Twin flames & curses: 45:43
• Spiritual/Metaphysical Chatter: 47:14 – 50:38

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Tone and Language

• The episode balances raw, unfiltered emotion (“I don’t want to cry—but…”) with humor (“let’s curse this [Trump’s] ass”), candid relationship real talk, and open conversation about spirituality, grief, and the weird quirks of humanity.
• The dynamic between Cate and Ty is warm, bantering, and supportive—even when the topics veer into dark, strange, or hilarious territory.

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Summary

This episode offers comfort for anyone grieving a pet and delivers classic Cate and Ty wisdom on relationships, family, and resilience. The listener confessions segment brings levity, shock, and honest advice, making space for catharsis and genuine connection. The episode closes with spiritual musings, pop culture references, and updates on their evolving family life, leaving listeners with both a sense of solidarity in loss and hopefulness for what comes next.

Transcript

[A]

Foreign. What's up guys? Welcome back to another episode of Kate and Ty. Break it down. Keep liking and reviewing and rating our show. That really helps us out. And leave us our. Leave us some comments. We love to see them today in the Baltera house. Well, this week in the Valtera household has been a very sad week.

[B]

It's been rough.

[A]

I know. And I don't want to cry.

[B]

Don't. Well, you can cry.

[A]

I know, but. So our dog that we had. Well, I had her where she was my. But she definitely chose me.

[B]

Well, yeah, I mean, she was your shadow.

[A]

Yeah. So she was 16 and a half years old. So I got her just a few months after we relinquished our rights to Carly. So like she was just like my baby. She recently just passed away three days ago and it's been rough.

[B]

It's okay, honey.

[A]

She was with me through, through everything. I mean through all the ups and downs in life. She literally died in my arms. Like it, it's like. It's like beautiful but then also traumatizing at the same time, if that makes sense. And then it made me think today I was like us humans, like why the. Do we do this to ourselves?

[B]

No, I don't know why we do this. I don't know. It's because we love the animals so much that we know. It's almost like we know that they're not going to be here forever. So it makes the relationship even more like you just. I don't know.

[A]

And I thought, and I like I knew she was getting old, but for some reason I felt like she still had like so much left in her. Like, I know she was deaf and blind, but it's just like when you wake up at 7:30 in the morning, I don't expect see my dog dying downstairs.

[B]

No, I know. But I also feel like with how she was like it's it. She lived, she died exactly how she was meant to. Old age, all the food she could have spoiled rotten. Just like, I mean she had the best life. And I feel like she was so. She had so much vitality before she passed that I think that's because, I mean, she was taken care of. She was so. I mean she had a. She was so. I don't think you expected it because she was acting completely normal. I mean, yeah, she's blind and deaf, but she's old. But the way she was moving, she wasn't limping, wasn't gasping, wasn't doing nothing, you know, nothing. Right.

[A]

She didn't have cancel like she was suffering nothing you know, and so me and Ty like rushed her to. We were taking. We went and like we're rushing to the vet. But I think you know, me and you both kind of knew like I wasn't going to the vet to expect him to save her. I was more or less like just take her out of her misery. Like just put her down.

[B]

If she would have survived the drive.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

That was the whole.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Reason.

[A]

But then she just passed. She passed away in my arms in the car. And like for her that makes me feel so good because it's like what other way to go but besides with the one person that loves you just.

[B]

I don't know.

[A]

But it's also hard cuz I can't get the image.

[B]

I know, but the human soulmate that you were to her, she didn't want to. She wouldn't have had an easy passing within anyone else's arms.

[A]

Right. It's weird. I felt like she waited for me to wake up.

[B]

I feel like she did.

[A]

It was crazy.

[B]

Like, because she was like, she was so fine and then they saw the morning and she was like waiting. I mean, you got to her, right? I mean, what. We had maybe 10 minutes, 15 minutes in the morning before she was gone.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I mean think about the last 10, 15 minutes. She was smelling you. On you. Your warmth, your scent, your everything.

[A]

And I was a black.

[B]

Your voice. Yeah. I mean, I know she had. She was deaf and blind, but she could still smell. She knew the feeling. She knew the arms that were holding her.

[A]

So it just, it sucks.

[B]

I think it's one of the things that kind of humans that we kind of sacrifice a little bit knowing for the animal because we know, we know that we're, you know, our heartbreak is inevitable and we do it anyway.

[A]

Yeah, it's rough.

[B]

Do you think it was going to be this difficult?

[A]

I had thoughts because even when she would just hide in random places and I couldn't find her for hours, I'd freak out, cry. But.

[B]

Or when she was. Because listen, guys, she was. She like. She was deaf and blind. So there was a point. I don't even know if he's had this before, but she ran away from home in her blindness. She like. She just like went down the hill of our yard and just didn't decide to go down the road and all that stuff. So she was, I mean.

[A]

And I couldn't find her and I was freaking out.

[B]

Yeah. And so I thought, I'm laughing on it now. Like. But when you think about it, we're out There screaming for this death dog.

[A]

Hear you. And I'm yelling her name like an idiot.

[B]

Oh, my God. Anyway, we found her, though, eventually. But, yeah, that was.

[A]

And she did that to me, like, three times. Three different times. And I would cry and get scared, like, thinking she's, like, gone forever.

[B]

Do you think that would have been easier? I guess my question, like, okay, but if she went off blind, deaf and got her.

[A]

No, because there would be no. Like, I wouldn't know where she was.

[B]

So as hard as the imagery is and as hard as the experience was, try to find some gratitude in it.

[A]

I mean, I tried for a little. I hope that it gave her peace.

[B]

I think it did, you know? I mean, I know it did. You can't deny it.

[A]

It just sucks, because I love her and I want her to be around forever.

[B]

I know.

[A]

And I'm like, great, now we have to go through this five more times, you know? And that's what got me thinking today. I was like, us humans, why do we set ourselves up for Harp? You're setting yourself up for heartbreak. You know what I mean?

[B]

Like, because we know. It's almost like that whole thing. Like, we know that the journey is almost more important than the arrival. Like, we know the arrival is inevitable, and it's devastating. But we. We just. We. We love the journey.

[A]

Right? But I truly feel like. So we had a Doberman years ago that passed, and we rescued. I mean, years after he passed, what, like four years after he passed, we rescued from a rescue. And his name was Remy, and he is half Doberman, half German Shepherd. And I swear to God, I'm like, I feel like Caesar is a piece of him. And I feel like. I personally think that animals reincarnate and come back and they try to find their, like, person, their soul tribe. Yeah. And so I'm just, like, praying that she comes back to me. Like, I was, like, talking in my car. So stupid.

[B]

It's not stupid, honey. You're grieving. You know, this is part of it.

[A]

I was, like, asking her for signs.

[B]

And I don't think that's stupid at all.

[A]

And then. But it's weird because that day that I was talking in my car, I got home, and that's when I opened that package, and that's the thing that Brittany sent us of that Chihuahua thing. And I was like, that. I think that maybe that was a sign from her.

[B]

Isn't that wild?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Random package we got of a beautiful stained glass thing with a little Chihuahua on it, and it was from one of our really, really good friends.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Unexpected. Like, literally. She must have did that right when she saw your.

[A]

She must have, because it came the next day.

[B]

Like, literally came right away.

[A]

And I think it's even harder because it's like. I think it's hard with any animal that you lose, but just the. The bond that me and her had and all the. I was going through when I got her, like, she was our baby. Like, I remember training. You know, you training her in. When we lived in our apartment, and she was so tiny, and she was just like, sit and lay down and roll over and shake and like, we were teaching her all the things and. And she was like that. That comfort of, you know, when we were missing Carly or when the. You know, like, I mean, that wouldn't. She went on hours of rides with me in my car. Like, you know what I mean? She would attack SEM eyes as they would drive by me. And, like, you know, she and that girl had the best balance ever in a car. I remember she would stand in my middle, like, the center council, and she would stand there and, like, I would turn, drive everything, and she. I was like, this dog's got the best balance ever. But, yeah, I miss her. It's not fair. It makes me sad. I wish dogs could live forever.

[B]

I know. Me too. Because honestly, when Caesar died, I mean, that was. I just didn't expect it, and I didn't feel like. I think it was the first time I really got it. Because I'll be honest, before having my own dog, like, I. Like, we had a dog, but it wasn't my dog. It was Amber, my sister's dog. Growing up, it wasn't like, you know what I mean? I didn't connect to any whatever. But Caesar was my dog. And that's. You know what I mean? It was like. And then. And then once he died, I was like, oh, now I really get these people who are like, just like. You know, I used to think before that, though, I'd be, oh, God, people are so ridiculous with their freaking dog and their animals and how they're, like, how they treat them and buy in the photo shoots and birthday cakes. I mean, people are.

[A]

I don't really understand the photo shoots and. But I will spoil the. Out of my dog.

[B]

But after Caesar died, I was like, whoa. Like, I just. Because it was so unexpected, I just thought I'd have him for at least four more years, you know, so when.

[A]

He was young, too, and DCM took him away, which is so unfair.

[B]

Yeah. Who's the best yeah.

[A]

And like today I just kind of like. I don't know, it's day three. I just felt like, down.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know, just like, I'm like, oh, my God. How could a dog stuff make me have a little bit of depression? Like, I feel more so bad.

[B]

Dog. It's like I said, it's okay. It's like a. It's like a soul tribe member. Like, it's. It's more than a dog, in my opinion. That's more than dog.

[A]

I could be going to the bathroom, taking a pee, and Ty is like, dude, she's always sitting outside the door waiting for you.

[B]

No. And it's funny because, like, you have a very distinct walk.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And it's a shuffle. And so.

[A]

Thanks, grandma.

[B]

So anyway, you shuffle. And then like throughout our life living together in all the different houses, we always had hard floor. And so I just. In my head, all I hear is shuffle shovel. Like her little, like four little.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

She'd follow me everywhere, like a little shadow.

[A]

But I consider myself like someone who is, I would say, closer in tap with, like, the spiritual world, in a sense. Call me crazy, all you people that you want to, but I swear there's just been thing. The things that have happened in my life. And I remember when my mom's dog, who looked identical to Caddy but was just a dick. I remember when he died and I remember, like, seeing. I swear, like, I would see shadows, like little shadows if. And I knew it was him or just like, I would hear, like, feet, you know, or weird things. And I just knew it was him. And I haven't heard that yet from her. Or maybe I've just been too distraught to notice it or whatever. But.

[B]

But while you're waiting for that or.

[A]

Something, I'm like, show me something, babe.

[B]

You literally said, show me a sign. Caddy in the car and came home to a stained glass Chihuahua thing. Decoration for the window. I mean, I can't really. What other sign is that?

[A]

Well, then I'm just waiting.

[B]

That's divine intervention right there.

[A]

When I get her ashes, I know I'm gonna be a wreck because I remember so when Caesar died, just picking.

[B]

Them up in the.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. And like that. And that was like a week or two later. So it's like we were already in the grieving process. You know, you're at that point where you don't have any more tears left. And then I went and picked up his ashes and I put him in the sea. And it was the same seat that I drove him to the hospital. And then I just started S.O.B. like, it's just. Oh, I hate it. I'm like, why the.

[B]

I know, but it's a good question to ask as human beings. Why do we do this?

[A]

Yeah. I don't know. Why.

[B]

Why did you do it?

[A]

Because she was so cute and I loved her.

[B]

That's what I mean.

[A]

And then we pulled in the driveway. We got Nova's dog, Ace. And if anybody could see him, he's the derpiest mitt mutt breed. Like, he's got every breed possible in one.

[B]

One ear sticks straight to the side. One bends. It's just. He's googly eyed, googly eye. He's just a big old round kind of. Kind of like a big cho. Dog. It's just. He's just a.

[A]

That's full of anxiety.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And we pull in the driveway after dropping Caddy off at the vet because we're getting her cremate. And here he comes running down the driveway. And Ty was like, you know, we're stuck with this dupus for 18 more years. And I couldn't help but laugh because.

[B]

We were both crying, Dude. I had to break the tension of. Of tears. I was like, dude. And that's the first thing that came to my house. Like, God, this idiot. When I really just miss Caddy, I'm like, now I got this idiot stuck with me.

[A]

So I don't know about any of your guys's households, but in my household, I know a few people here who are literally obsessed with cereal. Like, want to eat it for every meal. Nova and Tyler and, you know, cereal has got a lot of sugar and it doesn't seem that wholesome and fueling. Well, then I found Little Spoon. Little Spoon makes high protein, zero sugar cereal, and treats reinvented from your childhood. Ugh, the nostalgia. Every serving of Magic Spoon high protein cereal has 13 grams of protein and 4 grams of net carbs. They come in nostalgic flavors like fruity cocoa and frosted. Magic Spoon's high protein treats are crispy, crunchy, airy, and an easy way to get 12 grams of protein on the go. They come in mouthwatering flavors like marshmallow chocolate, peanut butter, and dark chocolate. Mmm. I love dark chocolate. Both are great on the go, pre or post workout or even as a midnight snack. Get $5 off your next order at magicspoon.com sl Break it down or look for Magic Spoon on Amazon or in your nearest grocery store. That's magicspoon.com Break it down for $5 off. Yeah. So that's been hard. And the kids have. I feel like the kids have taken it very well.

[B]

Yeah, they.

[A]

I.

[B]

No, listen, I'm. I'm a little like, hey, will you be a little more sad?

[A]

Right.

[B]

I feel like I like, I'm like. Cuz at first when Vader came down the stairs and really want us to get a bite or. I. That hit me. I was holding together pretty good. But then seeing Veda, and then Veda's kind of emotionless and she's like, okay, bye, Kitty. Then, I don't know.

[A]

You really clicked for.

[B]

I know. And then the kids are like, not like, whatever, man. I'm like, dang. It's because they don't know.

[A]

And I think they're more worried about me. I mean, one of the kids. They don't ever see me.

[B]

I know. That's why you told Rya was looking like she was in a different world. She said, what is wrong with this woman? That's my mother. You know, she put her hand on your.

[A]

On my face. Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. And all I said, I was like, mom's sad. She's like, you're sad.

[A]

I know. And then she just wants to be like, it's okay.

[B]

But it's okay. It's okay for the kids to see you sad. Yeah, I think it's healthy.

[A]

No, it is.

[B]

But I personally.

[A]

Yeah. Because that was the first time where I ever see me.

[B]

Like, I know her eyes are. She kept looking back and forth. I mean, like, dad, you see this? Dad, you see this? Dad, do something about this.

[A]

Like, I was like, no, it was like, hug your wife. And you're like, I am. I'm hugging her.

[B]

The kids are so focused on comforting you in any way they can. They're like, dad, hug her. Hold her, someone.

[A]

And I feel like we've instilled it in Noble, which is a good thing. Where she's always, you know, she says she's like, you know, mom, she's in a better place and she's always going to be with you. But I feel like we've installed that and instilled that in her.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

But then also I'm like, but it's still okay to feel your feelings, kid.

[B]

I know, but I think Nova's just. She's like. She's just naturally trying to think of the positive thing.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

To make you not sad anymore.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Like, their goal isn't like, to really hold space for you because they're too young to really get it. They just know, oh, my God, Mom's. Sad. How do I help make this better?

[A]

Yeah. So. And I feel like a lot of people can relate to that. It's just like it. They're like your babies. I mean, and she was. She was definitely.

[B]

I mean, listen, we got that dog. We emptied all the bank account, all the money we had.

[A]

I know. I'll never forget.

[B]

Gathered it all with change.

[A]

Yep. We had every dime out of my bank account.

[B]

Milk crates as a couch. And we got. We spent all that money on a dog.

[A]

Yep. She cost me like. She cost me like $600.

[B]

And we did it. Cuz she looked exactly like Spike.

[A]

She did. But you know what's funny is like, she was way nicer than Spike. She never bit a single person.

[B]

So much nicer. So much nicer.

[A]

My mom's dog was such an dude.

[B]

He was.

[A]

But I loved him. He was nice to me.

[B]

He was nice to me.

[A]

Yeah. After he tried to bite you for the first time.

[B]

Yeah. It's all right, though. We gained respect. Maybe that was. That was it. That was a dot. Hey, man. I just, you know, I just reacted.

[A]

Oh. So. Yeah. So that's. It's been a couple rough days for sure. Lots of tears and it's like, how do you move forward? You know? I guess you just do. Life just keeps moving every day.

[B]

All of a sudden the sun still rises. And just.

[A]

So we have that, but. And then in a couple days, we're having Raya's fourth birthday party. She's turning four.

[B]

I think we listen, though. We woke up that morning and Caddy. When Caddy passed.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

We had orientation, by the way, for Noah's middle school. So, like, I don't think you're getting full context as, like, listeners. Like, this morning, this day was like, we get up, like, Nova has to be ready to go to this orientation for her school, get her school picture taken. It's while we're in the middle of rushing to hospitals. Back in, like two of that back forth. It was a lot.

[A]

Yeah, it was a lot.

[B]

It was like. It was overwhelming, to be honest.

[A]

I do want to say that I'm definitely thankful for the veterinarian place that is out here though, because I. I'm friends with the receptionist that works there, and I just texted her in the morning and I was like, my dog, she's literally dying and I'm rushing to your guys's place and I know you're not open yet. And she was like, I'm gonna send a mass text out. She's like, we have a receptionist there. But obviously she can't do anything. And so we, we show up there, I go inside and the receptionist is like, you know, the vet tech. And the vets don't come in until like 9:45. 10. And it's like 9.

[B]

No, it was like 8.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was like 8:45. And then so I was like, okay, I guess we're just gonna wait with her while she's like dead in my arms. And all of a sudden somebody's at my window. And it was one of the vet techs and you could. She was still in her normal clothes.

[B]

Everything she rushed there. It was so sweet.

[A]

And she was just like, you know, and I'm like, I think she's already gone. And she's like, she is. But then she took us in the building and we filled out all the stuff and for the cremation and stuff. And she was like, she, she said to me, she goes, you know, I've been working for 10 years and I just want to tell you that you guys are amazing pet owners. She's like, a lot of, A lot of people that I see do not do what you guys do for your animals. She goes, and I mean it. She's like, you guys are. You love your pets and you're amazing and you take care of them. And I. And so I, I told her and I was like, thank you. Like, that meant a lot to me.

[B]

It did. It was. I. She was so genuine when she said that too. Like, I was like, listen, I mean, we're both like, I can't speak because we're both crying, but I was listening very closely to what she was saying. I was like, wow.

[A]

And she was so sweet. And then she was like, she even said, she goes, you know, I lost my 17 year old little dog today a year ago. And I was like, wow, that's sad.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And crazy. And so then we fill out, do all the cremation stuff, pay for it, and we. Then we drive home and we literally.

[B]

Had like 10 minutes before we have to get this kid.

[A]

All right, put on a brave face.

[B]

And go to the school. Thousand hundreds of people just coming in and out. Orient. You know how all parents know the orientation thing for going into a brand new school.

[A]

Where's your locker?

[B]

Oh my God. Kids trusting can't get the locker. Com. We're. I feel like our faces probably look still red. Like our eyes are still.

[A]

I was still crying, pulling in the parking lot.

[B]

It's like, I don't know. As a parent, you know, like, you when you have to go do something, or even as an adult, you just have to go do something. Even you've been crying in the car. You're just like, ah. You tried so hard to just like, like power through this crazy, overwhelming situation.

[A]

Yeah. And that. It was just. It was a crazy, crazy morning. And it's weird too, because I set my alarm for like 7:30 and it didn't go off.

[B]

That's weird. I didn't even.

[A]

But I still woke up. I woke up. And when do I ever. I don't know.

[B]

Never, ever wake up. Never.

[A]

Right. Which. That is weird. Like, my alarm didn't go off. And I'm like, that's weird. Like, why didn't my alarm go off? And I remember waking you up and saying, my alarm didn't go.

[B]

I remember you saying that. Like, well, that's why you up then, if the alarm didn't go off.

[A]

Yeah. Because it was a. And it was just a weird. I don't think. I don't believe in coincidences. I. I believe she wanted to be there with me. And I feel like she waited for me and. Because it was only like 10. Yeah.

[B]

It was like literally after I held her. Yeah.

[A]

She passed.

[B]

And that's weird. You're right. The alarm didn't go off.

[A]

No, something just woke me up.

[B]

You never wake up unless something wakes you up.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, it is rare that anything you wake up by yourself.

[A]

Right. It's either an alarm or a kid or whatever. Yeah. It was just. It's weird. I. Yeah. I didn't have it set. I had. It didn't go off or anything. So I don't know. So it just makes me think of, like. All right, now we have, you know, this heartbreak to go through again with Remy and Ace and Luna and Jasper and Shadow and Mochi and Lemon. We have so many animals.

[B]

I just know. I think the. The thing about. Just know that Kristen, you know, shadows my cat. Like, I feel like cats are different. I don't know cats. I mean, she's going to go out. She's an outside indoor cat or, you know, indoor outdoor cat. So I just feel like I know one day she's just not going to come back.

[A]

Yeah. But don't you think that'd be harder, like you said? Because I feel like with this one, it's like. Yeah, I have the imagery and it's great, but I got to say goodbye.

[B]

No, I know. But dogs and cats, I guess, are different because cats. I know cats would rather enjoy like, solitude and dying by themselves. You Know what I'm saying? Where dogs are like in the woods, lost. Like. No, you know, I mean they. They're very humanly dependent. Like huge. And so I have a little piece. I think I'd have a little piece of knowing the cat just went off and hunted its last, whatever it did. You know what I mean? But I know one day Shadow's not going to come back.

[A]

Yeah. And I feel like that would be harder.

[B]

And it. That one week at the Octagon.

[A]

Oh my God, I was losing it, right?

[B]

I felt like a psycho. I was waking up at 4:30 in the morning, going out there in my robe in the middle of winter and making noise, shaking treats and just shout out, literally, dude. I was like.

[A]

And you guys want to know what's funny about this whole cat shadow is I bought. I bought her, got her when she was a kitten. Tyler and her did not have a start off of it in a very good way.

[B]

I didn't want the cat. I was not a cat person.

[A]

No, really, I mean, so she was a kitten and she like. I don't know, she. We had her for like three or four days, maybe even longer.

[B]

But probably a week. It was probably a week.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But she. I don't know if anybody's had this happen, but she like ran up to Ty and jumped on his leg, claws.

[B]

And all, you know. Okay, I want. I want you to think of a bear going up a tree. I mean like they leap and claw, claw, claw with all the way up the tree. Okay. The tree is my thigh and my calf. Okay? That is what happened. Out of nowhere. You know, cats get the zoomies. They're all nuts. This thing. I. Guys, the pain. I'm telling you right now, I don't know if everyone's. I mean, if you've just been climbed aggressively by a kitten claw thing coming up your leg. Anyway, it hurts so bad that I naturally just like. You grab, you know, I just grabs. Ah. And I just kind of grabbed the cat and just like get. Got it off me. Which was a horrible, stupidest idea because when I grabbed Shadow and pulled her off, because it was my natural reaction. She dug it. Dude. I had the word. I was dripping blood. Blood. It was bad. It was horrible.

[A]

And we were literally walking out the door to go to the airport.

[B]

Worst time ever.

[A]

And so then after that, Tyler was like, oh, this cat, this cat. Let me tell you right now, now it is his second pussy.

[B]

She put the spell on me.

[A]

Yeah. And she's the black. She's like a black Cat, like long hair, medium long haired, and she's super clean. But. And this is crazy, like she has. And she brings gifts to ty. Like all of a sudden there will be like birds, mice. She brought a blue jay. One time this bitch tried running in the house with a full grown squirrel and I slammed the door because she had the squirrel in her mouth. But, but like a full grown babe. You.

[B]

You were there. I had to save a bunny.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

How can a cat kill a bunny that's the same size as a cat?

[A]

She's crazy, dude.

[B]

She has. Dude, it's bad.

[A]

She's killed multiple bunnies. And that's sad.

[B]

I know. I tried saving the bunny.

[A]

I know. Well, you saved the one.

[B]

I said the one bunny.

[A]

But then I've tried to like get some from her before, but she's all. She's like cracked out.

[B]

Her eyes get all black and wide.

[A]

She runs from you. I think she knows you're trying to get it.

[B]

She makes weird noises.

[A]

I'm like, dude, don't be killing bunnies. And then the one time she left a freaking blue jay on our front on the, in front of the door, I was like, dude.

[B]

And she'll look at me in the morning, meow. And I'm like, I know you're giving me. I know you're telling me that I'm the worst hunter ever and that you're being like, hey, dumbass, since you're not feeding me the wet food, I like, I brought you a bird, right? Will you please get like, no, I do. You don't gotta exchange a blue jay for the wet food. I'll just give it to you. Chill out, Shadow.

[A]

And like, we've tried everything. I've put like giant bells on her and shit.

[B]

She has the biggest bell you can get for a cat.

[A]

You can hear in the field.

[B]

I can hear down a couple yards away, like she's running through fields to come home. I go, yep. And she can hear.

[A]

But the fact that she catches like rabbits and full grown squirrels, I'm like, how the hell is this even.

[B]

She doesn't even have front claws.

[A]

I wouldn't be. I wouldn't. Yeah. And I wouldn't be surprised. This one day is gonna bring up a bald eagle. You know what I mean? Or a chicken.

[B]

Haw is crazy.

[A]

Yeah, she's nuts.

[B]

But yeah, she's definitely. Well, she. I don't know. She just picked me. She just kept coming to me. I said, listen, you clawed me. I threw you. I hate you. Why do you keep coming over here and Loving me. And eventually I just gave in because her persistence paid off. And I'm like, you know what?

[A]

And it's funny cuz like she knows. I swear she knows. Like when you come home and stuff. Cuz then here she'll come and then literally this will just sit on the counter and she's like the only cat that gets on the counter. No matter how many times.

[B]

Guys, you tried everything. I've sprayed stuff. I've.

[A]

Dude, tinfoil.

[B]

Can't get this cat off the counter. Well.

[A]

And she will just sit there and meow at him and just stare at him. And I'm like, dude, your is calling you. Like can you answer? So she shuts up. She's literally obsessed.

[B]

I love her.

[A]

So with all the heartbreak and everything that happened, you know, we do have Rye's turning four. Four. We're having her party early. But she has her fourth birthday this weekend.

[B]

I know.

[A]

And so that'll. That's something to, you know, that I'm looking forward to. And she is like literally obsessed right now with Disney's Little Mermaid, Ariel. Everything, dude, literally everything. She loves Ariel. So I'm super excited because I got her these cookies, made Ariel cookies. And I'm having her an aerial cake made and I bought like jellyfish to hang outside and a bunch of aerial balloons. And we don't go too crazy, honestly. I mean I do the theme.

[B]

I don't have like a decorator.

[A]

No, I do it all myself. Why don't we do it ourselves? This is the first year I've ever bought decorated cookies and a cake, you know.

[B]

Exactly.

[A]

But yeah, she's literally obsessed with Ariel, so. But it's gonna be fun. You know, Ty's mom's gonna come here and my mom's gonna be here and we have friends and family and so that's something to look forward. I just hope the rain just gets over with in the morning.

[B]

I'm like, then Nova starts school. School's back in session.

[A]

It is.

[B]

Oh man.

[A]

And it's weird because they start Veda and Nova start the end of August. And then Rio's preschool is smart. They don't start until after Labor Day. I'm like, that's smart. Because the big kids go to school for like three days.

[B]

Stupid. I hate it.

[A]

And then they have a four day weekend. I'm like, that's a teaser.

[B]

Dumb. Yeah, right.

[A]

You know, like what the. I don't. I'm like, why? Oh. But yeah, and then it's back to the old grind. And yeah.

[B]

But listen, this Is totally different. This is. Our lives are changing this year. Do you understand that?

[A]

Yeah. We'll have no more babies.

[B]

Our baby is going to be at school four or five days a week. Bye. Bye.

[A]

Yeah. And I. And I wonder what the hell. And I bet you a lot of parents can relate to that. Like when you have your last baby, like the. The new firsts are your last.

[B]

It's gut wrenching.

[A]

Yeah. So it's just different. Right?

[B]

Like, you gut wrenching.

[A]

Well, you said it gives you like anxiety.

[B]

Yes. I've never. And I. And I. So it's a weird anxiety where it's like almost like a. It feels. Well, it feels like a panic a little bit. Like. Like it's the last time I'm going to see him. Oh my God. They're gone for five, six hours a day for me. I'm like, what's going. I. I don't know. It's. I don't know.

[A]

We're laying a bed in towers. Like, do you ever think about, like, how many times you held her today? Or like. And I'm like, no, I have.

[B]

Where are you guys? I can't be the only one out there that. That I like, I'll. Since. And I've done it with all the kids, but especially Raya, where I'll like.

[A]

Because it's the last.

[B]

Because I know they're getting done these certain milestone ages where I'm like, oh my God, like, all right, I picked her up this morning to that. I'll count how many times I actually picked up it. My kids up and held them.

[A]

Because I. I think a lot of parents can relate to that, though. Like the last baby. Like I said, all of their first are your lasts, you know, like. And all the kids are getting older. I mean, Nova's, you know, she's gonna. She's a pre teen. She's.

[B]

I know today. You should have told us today when we were shopping at Target.

[A]

What.

[B]

Which dude was so funny because, you know, they. They have like. It's kind of a big dressing room.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And it's all like, there's no men and women. It's just like all big one. And so I go in there with her, obviously, and she's. I was like, I'll wait out here. You go in the thing and whatever and change. And she's just so funny. She's just talking. And then other people are coming in. Like other ladies are coming in. In the other rooms. And I'm standing over to the farthest one away, whatever. And I'm like, all right, let me know if you need help with the dust in the pants and whatever. And she's like, dad, okay. Like, I like this. I need your opinion, though, and you need to be honest with me. And I'm like, I will always be honest with you. I'll. I'll tell you. And she said, these pants are so cool. Blah, blah. And then we heard. We're just talking about all this random stuff about, like, you know, her trying on these clothes and starting middle school, whatever. And then I as. I'm, all right, fine. You got your keep pile that you're keeping the clothes you like. Cool. You like that. Don't like that. Put it in the other pile. And then I walk out, and one of the ladies was like, I had to say, it's like, that was so cute. No, it's like your guys's conversation. She's like, you're such a good dad. So awesome. And I was like, holy. I was like, really, dude? I was like. We were just talking, like, you know, she was just. And I was like, you know, because she's like, well, I want your opinion. I said, yeah, but your opinion matters, not mine. Like, your matters more than I. So you like it? I'm not. I said, I'm not answering you unless you tell me if you like it or not first. That was like, my deal. I was like, listen, like, well, right, Because I want you. I can't see through the door. Like, you have to open the door and reveal what you're. What you put on. So I'm like, do you like it? Yeah, I do. Open it. You know what I mean? I don't know. And I was still. I'd still be honest with her, but I wanted to give her, like, that. I'm not. My opinion doesn't matter. Yours does because you're in the clothes, right? And I remember saying. I was like, well, I'm not wearing these clothes, right? I'm not starting middle school, so it's not my opinion. Doesn't really matter as long as you like it, right?

[A]

As long as you like.

[B]

And then the lady was just walking. I have to tell you, it's like, I just. That was so adorable. Listening guys conversation. So. You're such a good dad. I was like, wow, that's nice. I know a random stranger.

[A]

I was like, what do you think her style is?

[B]

Like, no, but she's funny because she's like. She likes to flare jeans, and that's my girl. And then I tried. And then I was, all right, we'll try this. Because she picked out these really baggy, like. I'm talking, like, almost Janko shit.

[A]

Oh, okay.

[B]

I'm like, this is. These are cool.

[A]

Okay?

[B]

But whatever. I was like, she put those on, like, those. And then guess what? There was a champion. She bought a champion hoodie and champion sweatpants.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Which I was like, wow. Because my kid doesn't. She. No, Nova's not into that. She bought that and she loved that. The head snaps on the. You know, I remember the old Adidas. Oh, yeah. Swearing out track pants with the snaps.

[A]

Oh, hell no.

[B]

And I was like, yo, those got snapped. And she's like, why are you so obsessed with the snaps? I don't know. I was like, I'm pumped up right now. I was like, dude, I said, your sweatpants have snaps.

[A]

Did she try that set on?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And she like, she was obsessed with it.

[A]

Really.

[B]

She's like, didn't want to take the champion hoodie off. She had matches, everything, dad, as I told. You get one. I said, you get one staple. This is the conversation we're having while other people are walking and out of dressing rooms. And I'm like, listen, you get one staple piece, right? You get the hoodie, you get the couple pairs of shirt, you know, shirts that go all different jean type. What? Pants? What? Together? You know what I mean?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And. Oh, my God, dude, it was just was. It was funny. Her style's changed a little. I can see it a little bit.

[A]

I love that she loves the flared.

[B]

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Because then she put on a pair of like, normal straight legged. All right, I'm gonna open them. I don't know. I said, so anytime. She said, I don't know. I don't know if I like this. I said, do you want another opinion or not? Or do you. If you're guaranteed you don't like it, toss it. Don't even show me, right? And she's like, all right, this one I want your opinion on. So I was like, you just let me know. She opened the door and the way she was standing in this in the straight legged jeans, I said, nah. I said, I. I don't know. I thought it was a. You know. They look good on you. Do you like those? No, I. Not my favorite.

[A]

Because her face is like.

[B]

And her shoulders are like. Like she purposely makes herself look like. And I'm like, listen, how did she.

[A]

Not find any shirts is what I want to know.

[B]

Babe, we looked at so many shirts, I can't tell you how many shirts we Looked at. I went. I took her to Buckle JC Penny.

[A]

Took her to Target, her to Hot Topic.

[B]

Took her to Hot Topic. Can't fit in any of the extra small. She. Listen, that was a mistake, by the way.

[A]

Why? She loved.

[B]

I went to Hot.

[A]

Did she love it?

[B]

She was tripping out. She was looking at. All of a sudden, oh, my God.

[A]

Oh, my God, oh, my God. She loved Hot Topic.

[B]

And she said, I want that. I said, you can't. This is nothing in your size here. And she was just pissed. You could see in her face, raging.

[A]

Oh, no. Why? Because what kind of shirts did she like that there were.

[B]

No, they're. They're like some comic, but one. Some like. I don't know, there's some like. Like, almost like a punk hello Kitty looking.

[A]

You know, the graphic Surprise. She's even looking at grappa cheese. Because I show her graphics. She's like, now.

[B]

No, she wants specific graphics on them, okay? And I was tempted, but I didn't do it.

[A]

What?

[B]

Because you can't fit in Hot Topic shirts. I'm not even gonna try. I want her to go with Spencer's. But the T shirt section's right there. You know what I mean?

[A]

Well, yeah. And all the nasty stuff's in the back.

[B]

True, but still, she can't fit in the extra. I said, do you have an extra, extra small? And lady's like, we don't have kids clothes here. And I'm like, all right, lady, I didn't ask if you had kids, right? I said, do you have extra, extra smalls?

[A]

And what if the kid wants the freaking emo hel. Kitty? Like, what the.

[B]

No, no, I think, but. And so I. I was like, I saw an extra small and I'm like. I held it up. I said, this is kind of big. I said, you, unless you want that baggy look, you know, right? And I kept thinking the lady kind of said it like, almost like you should have your kid in here almost, in a way. And that's what it felt like. I was like, listen, man, I didn't ask you if your kids clothes. I asked you if you had extra small.

[A]

Damn. I knew she would look.

[B]

Oh, she was pointing at every. The belts. The. The. The dang leg warmers. I want these. I said, nova, I got you leg warmers last year and you wore them twice.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. No.

[B]

Anyway, yeah, she was taking her shopping today was interesting.

[A]

And Beta still all like, I want pinks and purple unicorn. She's our girly girl. Yes, girly, girly girl.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Poor Raya is just her. Her co pilot.

[B]

Yeah. Pink is cool.

[A]

So. Pink is cool. She's literally her parent.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Poor freaking Ryo, man. Tell you what though. Those two are gonna be super close.

[B]

I know. That was just so nice to get a random compliment from a stranger.

[A]

Well, and I think it's nice that you and her got to just go and spend the day together and like, you guys went and saw a movie and, you know, had dinner and stuff. Like, that's.

[B]

It's a Nova day.

[A]

Yes. That's super nice.

[B]

She's funny.

[A]

So I did get some juicy secrets.

[B]

Oh, I knew we were gonna have secrets.

[A]

Yeah, I figured. A turn of events. This episode's kind of sad.

[B]

I know. Sorry, guys.

[A]

I know. And honestly, if I'm being completely like, I was just so emotional the past few days. Like, I did not want to record today, but I'm glad that I did just because it's like brings you guys into reality of our lives. Like, you know, like the sucks and.

[B]

It'S sad, but that's kind of why we started this thing. Just come in. This is what we're inviting all everyone in.

[A]

And it feels better to talk about it, doesn't it?

[B]

Yeah, I think so.

[A]

Oh.

[B]

What? Which one?

[A]

This is a good one.

[B]

What is it?

[A]

I had a guy beg me to poop on him.

[B]

No, no.

[A]

Sickened by it. I made a poop bag and hid under his spare tire in his car and never spoke again. According to mutual friends, it took him a week to find it.

[B]

What? What? What? What? What? What? What the.

[A]

In a bag.

[B]

Yo, yo, yo, yo. No, no, no, no.

[A]

You might as well just. On him.

[B]

No, I. I ain't even. No, no, Anyone with shit.

[A]

Remember that Tick Tock video, dude, where she took a bunch of like, Miralax and ate. Ate a bunch of like Colombian food or whatever, or no, Ethiopian food. And then she walked out there with like a thousand dollars and she had a chair in the room with a plastic bag underneath it.

[B]

And she's like, leave.

[A]

She's like, did the deed.

[B]

No, when I. When I. This is the stuff that makes you question our species. Our species as human beings. Like, we have evolved, right? I mean, obviously from primates. But this is where we. This is where we have not. We have not. You know, we haven't mutated out of this wacky dackity. You understand?

[A]

No, I got some people.

[B]

I'm not gonna anywhere by me. Listen, I don't know. That is that. Honestly that girl, pump the brakes.

[A]

Yeah, it's head I had it.

[B]

You did not, lady Half two in a bag. But you did it anyway. Listen, if a guy tells you to on him to in a bag.

[A]

No, he didn't ask her to in the bag.

[B]

But she knew he liked all the.

[A]

No, but what she says is that she said I had a guy beg me to poop on him. Sickened by it. I made a poop bag and I hid it under his spare tire.

[B]

Okay, listen, you say gross out by that, so gross out. I actually. And get. Listen, that's an oxymoron. You thought it was so nasty and you were so grossed out by it.

[A]

She hit it in his car that.

[B]

You actually did something pretty nasty yourself. And in the bag and put it.

[A]

In some guy's car under his spare diet.

[B]

You could have just said you're disgusting and I will not oblige.

[A]

Well, that's like. That's like some people like to be peed on and like peeped up.

[B]

No, I. Listen, like I said, these are the moments that made me question our species, our brain.

[A]

You wouldn't let me pee on you.

[B]

I'm gonna keep all bodily fluids away from me that don't involve reproduction. You understand?

[A]

Oh.

[B]

I get scared. Listen, you literally like this one.

[A]

I slept with a form. I slept with a former co worker and now we have a full on fling even though I'm engaged.

[B]

Oh, oh, so you. You a cheater.

[A]

That's messed up. You should probably break off the engagement.

[B]

I think you should break off the.

[A]

Engagement because obviously you like this guy.

[B]

Let tell the other person you're engaged to. Like let them grieve, let them be heartbroken. You, you owe it to them. You also owe it to yourself. Engage in the fling. Okay. You're obviously weren't happy before. You wouldn't be doing the fling. So you know what? Break his heart. Like, yeah, the you are and. And pursue your promiscuous uncontrollable temptations that you, you know, fell prey to.

[A]

Yeah, I don't believe in cheating whatsoever. Like if you're not happy, I don't break it off.

[B]

So anyway, no offense to you person or whatever, but your morality is weird and you should actually, you know what? Break it off. Break his heart. Whatever you gotta do. Tell the fling. I mean, explore the fling. Maybe it's your soulmate, who fucking knows. But I still think you should do some self reflection because that's crazy.

[A]

See? Jesus Christ. I still can't believe that girl pooped in the bag.

[B]

I'm not man.

[A]

This is. That's this is kind of sad, though. Like, for a birth mom. It's kind of sad. It's like, I know someone who adopted twins. Their birth mom told her whole family they died.

[B]

Oh, my God. Told her whole biological family.

[A]

Yeah. That her babies, like, died, but she placed them for adoption. Like, that's sad. Obviously, she didn't feel like she could be supported.

[B]

Oh.

[A]

And, like, you know, is wanting to keep him a secret. Somebody said, I pick my nose and eat my boogers.

[B]

You are disgusted. You are the. You are the bottom of the abysmal disgust.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[B]

Listen, that shit gets me. I can hang. I have a. I have a pretty strong stomach, but I cannot stand. I can't do snot. I can't do any loogies. Oh, God. Even talk about man. No, no, no, no, don't. Is that adult? That's an adult, too.

[A]

Yeah. Yep. I pick my nose and eat my boogers.

[B]

Guess what? I don't trust you as an adult. Have you heard that? When I was a kid. You know what I mean? But, yeah, I don't trust you at all at this point.

[A]

It's weird.

[B]

I was like, sometimes I eat my boogers. I'm an adult. I don't like. Yeah, guess what? You're twisted up in the head to be e workers. I don't trust any. I don't trust anything about you. I think you are completely insane. Something's wrong with your brain.

[A]

This is Chris. Some woman said, I'm getting divorced after being together for 35 years, since we were 16. You guys gave me the strength.

[B]

Whoa. Okay. Whoa. Ah. Whoa. That's intense. I don't know how to take that.

[A]

All I can think about is the other episodes when we were talking about, like, how you should be treated. I'm getting divorced after being together for 35 years, since we were 16. You guys gave me the strength, so.

[B]

16. Oh, wow. Well, I honestly hope it's the right thing for both of you guys. Like, I hope.

[A]

I hope so, too.

[B]

Like, I mean, obviously it's the right thing. Right thing. Or else you want to be doing it, but whoever the pet person is, like, and you always say anonymous, but maybe keep us updated. I would love to hear, like, where you're at that five months down the line. Or maybe the only thing I can.

[A]

Think of is, like, just the episodes we talked about. Like, if they're, you know, don't be staying together for the kid. Like, we've talked a lot about relationships and how you should be treated, you.

[B]

Know, well, how we feel I mean, listen, guys. Yeah, this is our opinion. And I actually just talked to my mom about this the other day, but. Because she brought up the whole asking permission thing, and I even said, like. And she's, you know, I said, yeah, but what works for other people don't work for other people. So when we talk about, like, what. What our beliefs or opinions are, that's literally what they are. Only because it's our experience, so.

[A]

Right. And what we would tolerate and what we wouldn't. Yeah.

[B]

I mean, it doesn't mean other people are, you know, wrong for tolerating other things. It's just more or less like, well, hope that works for you, you know.

[A]

And this one is. I saw this one earlier when I first made the post about sharing, like, people's secrets. And I was like, this be going to hell. Oh, no, for sure. If hell exists lists, his ass is gonna be there burning for sure. Said I had an affair with a married pastor. I was an intern. And you know the rest. It blew up.

[B]

It blew up.

[A]

So they must have thought. People must have found out or something. But you be.

[B]

God told me you can't be doing that because you're contributing.

[A]

God told me you did not.

[B]

Because you are contributing to this. Listen, I'll be okay.

[A]

Well, it's a pastor.

[B]

Well, listen, I think there's more infidelity and weird creepy going on in that kind of environment than is reported on because for sure, literally. I just shared an article the other. That just. Yeah, I saw you see? And. And it's like, what was the other one, 2000 children from 1960 to 1999 or something from the Catholic clergy or whatever the hell it was.

[A]

Yeah, we're raped.

[B]

Yeah. So it's like. And all I said was, I thought we were supposed to have our kids be afraid of trans people and drag queens.

[A]

Exactly.

[B]

But yet this youth pastor just got charged six counts of.

[A]

Of raping kids.

[B]

So listen, when you're working under hierarchical kind of system, like organized religion or some kind of, like when you're working in a restricted. What do you call it? I guess I. I can't call it a cult, but. But because not all religions are called. But you know what I mean? Just, you tend to almost suppress things. And then I feel like that contributes to you being a freaking weirdo. You know what I mean?

[A]

Certain ways.

[B]

Yeah. Because you're not. I don't know, like, you're. You're living under this, like, umbrella of, like, shame and fear and whatever. And so.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, that's crazy. I couldn't imagine boinking a pastor.

[B]

Well, I'd be like, you better.

[A]

Hallelujah. Praise Jesus.

[B]

I'm really going to heaven now. You might take it in, you know, but I will say, you know, everyone's a quote unquote sinner if whatever your definition of sin is. So, I mean, he. He's a sinner. And I'm pretty sure he asked for forgiveness and.

[A]

Right.

[B]

You know.

[A]

Right. But I can imagine that church and that community was eating it up when it came out because, believe me, they like drama.

[B]

I knew it. I knew when they took a picture. His hands below her waist, her ribcage.

[A]

Just watch, young Sheldon. You'll see all the drama. Christian drama. That show wrecked my ass, man. Oh, that ending. I'm not gonna ruin it for anybody that hasn't seen it, but, man, I was a wreck. I was so. I couldn't even hold it in. I gave myself a headache trying to hold in my tears. Stupid. And I don't know what this one means. Maybe you will, but it says my twin flame is under a love curse with his baby mama. Well, I'm madly in love with him.

[B]

I mean, listen, all I know about the twin flame is it's a controversy. There's a thing. It's weird. The occult, for sure. I hope she doesn't mean that.

[A]

Well, what is the twin flame?

[B]

Well, it's. There's a couple definitions that I know, and it's that one was this cult that I was not aware of. And then there's. But. But other people don't. That don't know about. The cult reference is twin flame is just another soul mate. Oh, my God.

[A]

So it means like soulmate.

[B]

Yeah, pretty much. But I've heard.

[A]

Can't twin flames also be like a negative thing?

[B]

Well, no. Yes, because. But that's what I'm saying. That people who believe in it one way believe that and the other people believe in it. Oh, it's like. It's this cult. Look it up. Twin fl. Whatever the hell.

[A]

Okay. It was like twin flame cult.

[B]

Yeah, pretty much. Yeah. Religion or whatever you want to call it. Yeah. I mean, I would say organ.

[A]

Like flame cult.

[B]

Let's see some person.

[A]

Twin flame universe.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

It's organization. Describe started it or something by Jeff and some.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Divine. It centers around the concept of twin flames intent soul mates and encourage members to pursue these romantic connections, often with individuals assigned by leaders. Former members have reported allegations of coercive control, indoctrination and abuse the group's practices such as the mere exercise where members blame themselves for their issues. That's not healthy. Have also been criticized. The group has faced legal issues and stuff like that too.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh, weird. There's a Netflix doc. Might have to watch it.

[B]

It's called.

[A]

It's called Escaping Twin Flames.

[B]

Of course. See, of course, the Netflix documentary about it. But the other. The other version of twin flames, the other definition of it is, like, pretty much like soulmate. You know, I think when people use that word, twin flames, they mean it in more of the that way, not this cult way, because it says it's.

[A]

Like a unique and intense soul connection where two individuals are believed to be two halves of the same soul.

[B]

Right. That made an agreement to split before coming here.

[A]

Destined to mirror each other's strengths and weaknesses.

[B]

Actually, some. But the twin flame thing is supposed to be like. Like, kind of like intense shadow work in a physical way. Almost like you're like, love is not always meant to be so easy all the time. It's. It's actually a sign that this person's here to elevate your soul, graduate it to a different level, Elevate the frequency.

[A]

Me and you have done.

[B]

Learn. Like, you kind of hold up a.

[A]

Mirror to one another and say, hey.

[B]

And it's. It's a mirror of. Of criticism with love, if that makes sense. It's a mirror of not trying to hurt you. It's. It's literally, we made this agreement before we come in here. I don't know what. Where we were at. We were in the wah, wah, wah, metaphysical realm. Hey, man.

[A]

And then I said. And then we were dumb enough to.

[B]

Say, we'll go back to Earth, right. But we're gonna split, and then we're gonna find whatever. Whatever we did.

[A]

So we were dumb enough to say, hey, you want to go down there again? No.

[B]

Want to be born in the 90s?

[A]

No. What about the 70s? Maybe.

[B]

But yeah, so. So I'm assuming them saying, and then there's a curse on.

[A]

I don't love curse.

[B]

She said, yeah, I love curse. By who? What? His baby mama is a witch? Maybe she pro practice.

[A]

I don't know.

[B]

And honestly, I would love to see. Yeah, I don't know. There's a lot of. Anyway, I think if curses you have to go look for. Yeah. It's not like, something. Do you regularly practice?

[A]

Do you believe curses can work?

[B]

Well, I think curses work a lot like prayer, right? So prayer is just a really intense manifestation technique.

[A]

So can we put Donald Trump's ass in a jar somewhere? Listen, I know a lot of tick tock witches that would be on that for real. Can we have a pow? Wow. We'll do it at my house. Let's curse this.

[B]

But I think it brings up a good point because people will criticize, heavily criticize spell work or whatever because everyone heavily criticize it, right?

[A]

Yeah, but it's a prayer.

[B]

They'll go to mass and they'll take. Make body of the blood, drink of the wine of the blood of the Christ, you know, eat the wafer. That's the body, you know, all that same thing literally. And then you get pray or whatever. It is so similar that it's a ritualistic practice that, that you, that literally it's. You're just tapping into the vibrations of all the world that you live in. Everything runs off frequency. We're all in a vibrating state, whatever. And in my opinion it's no different than me putting some herbs in a thing and lighting something, writing it, burning it, versus you going.

[A]

Yeah, they do that in the Cathol Church. They have ton of like candles.

[B]

Yeah, no, no, right. Oh no, actually incense, frankincense. Like it's, it's a very historical. Listen, whatever. You won't get in the conversation of how modern religion borrowed from a lot of pagan roots. But it's, it's. It's a thing and I feel like if what she's talking about and the, the fact that she mentioned twin flames and curse. I'm assuming they're witches or whatever. Maybe. I'm not really sure. Sure.

[A]

I mean I like that. I would rather do that it 10 times over.

[B]

But I think people get so they think you're out there like making voodoo doll or something and like I don't.

[A]

Know, I think I'm down to make a voodoo doll of Trump. Don't stab him. No, for sure I'll put a curse on his ass.

[B]

But honestly people who do curses and work on the. With a dark.

[A]

We have a child knocking on our door.

[B]

I'm not shocked.

[A]

Me neither. Mom, Mom. Hold on one second, hold on, hold on one minute, one second, please. Man, these damn kids, they don't take no for an answer. Hold on, bro.

[B]

Well, I guess hey all of them are going to be in school soon and hallelujah, we'll do nighttime recordings.

[A]

Yeah, well thanks guys for listening. Send some, you know, positive vibes our way and healing and we'll talk enough some more secrets. Yeah, we like send us some stuff.

[B]

Like anonymous and I'm still looking and.

[A]

I'm still looking to hear from a trad wife. A traditional wife from our previous episode.

[B]

Well, one reached out to me, but it didn't.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I'm like, you're a liar.

[A]

Yeah. It has to be a certain fit, you know?

[B]

Will they try to act like it's not? I said no. Outside of religion, you're just a trad wife because you want to be one.

[A]

I think those exist.

[B]

Well, she said she was, and then by the end, I was like, oh, you're not.

[A]

Oh, okay. Got it.

[B]

By the way, you explain that. No, you're definitely influencing by really just whatever.

[A]

So make sure to continue to like and subscribe. Leave a comment and thanks for all the love and support and we will be talking to you guys next week. Bye.

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