P​arenting Bias & Fighting for Empathy

Summary

Podcast Summary: Cate & Ty Break It Down

Episode: Parenting Bias & Fighting for Empathy

Date: September 10, 2025
Hosts: Tyler & Catelynn Baltierra

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Overview

In this episode, Tyler and Catelynn Baltierra move beyond their “Teen Mom” fame to discuss the real-life challenges of parenting, navigating school choices, online judgment, and the importance of empathy. The couple offers a candid look into their family's recent experiences, their perspective on homeschooling vs. public education, the societal stigma around mental health and neurodiversity, and how small acts of kindness can make a big impact.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Family Updates & Parenting Realities ([00:08]–[05:51])

• Post-Labor Day Recap: Cate and Ty share highlights from their family’s Labor Day celebration, including hosting friends, cooking, and managing meal preparations while balancing parenting duties.
• Children Returning to School: Their kids are back in school; with sickness (allergies/viruses) quickly circulating in the household—an all-too-familiar challenge for parents each fall.
• Emotional Milestones: Their youngest, Raya, starts full-time school, sparking mixed emotions, especially for Tyler:
  • Tyler: "I don’t know, but...she’s the last one. Hit me." ([04:18])
  • Catelynn explains: Her positive outlook stems from trust in their teachers and knowing Raya is supported.

2. Homeschooling vs. Public/Private Schooling ([06:23]–[22:18])

• Socialization and Life Lessons:
  • Cate and Ty believe that in-person schooling offers crucial social development, exposure to diversity, and opportunities to build different types of relationships.
    • Tyler: "School, there’s a lot more to it than just academics." ([09:12])
    • Catelynn: “She’s with an amazing teacher...who’s had every single one of our children.” ([06:23])
• Homeschool Debate: They reflect on social media feedback after posting about sending their kids to public school. Tyler feels homeschool parents often convey “Holier than thou” attitudes in comments.
  • Tyler: "All you homeschooling parents – you don’t have to tell me you’re better than me. I’m giving it to you." ([08:00])
  • The couple acknowledges homeschooling works for some but express concerns about bias in at-home education and the challenges of eliminating parental “teaching bias.”
    • Tyler: “How do you eliminate bias?...Are they going to teach about Martin Luther King?” ([10:04])
    • Catelynn: “Some people homeschool...because they want them taught certain things and not others.” ([10:24])
  • They discuss the value of public schools in providing access to diverse knowledge, regulated curriculums, and broader perspectives.
• Concerns Over Curriculum Restrictions: Both are unnerved by national trends to ban certain books or restrict topics in both public and private education.
  • Tyler: "I don’t want a whole generation of dumb-dumbs," voicing worry about children potentially missing out on scientific or historical truths due to educational bias. ([16:08])
• Vetting Schools: Cate stresses importance of researching schools’ values and curriculums before enrolling kids.

3. Parenting Vulnerabilities & Online Judgment ([23:17]–[43:11])

• Navigating Sick Kids and School Absences: The hosts discuss the stress of managing unexpected illnesses and balancing attendance with the kids’ well-being.
  • Catelynn: “Some things you just gotta go with your gut.” ([23:47])
• Dealing with Social Media Judgment: Tyler shares his shock at the cruelty and lack of empathy in comments about his autism diagnosis.
  • Catelynn: “...the people that, some people on there, I’m like, you’re just disgusting.” ([25:44])
• Society’s Empathy Problem: The hosts lament the cultural trend toward doubting or shaming those with mental health or neurodiversity diagnoses.
  • Tyler: “How have we gotten here to society where...you’re going to literally shame [people]...for having it?” ([28:18])
• “Ableism” Defined: Tyler explains the term for discrimination against people with disabilities; Cate calls for basic compassion.
• Advice to Listeners: Stand up when you see cruel behavior, both online and offline.
  • Tyler: “You need to do more than just be kind. You need to call out the cruelty when you see it.” ([37:24])
• Reflection on Trolls & Bullies: Discussion about how trolls often project their own unhappiness and that “healed people” don’t invest in hate or online negativity.
  • Tyler: “Secure, healing individuals...do not go on anyone’s public post and be unnecessarily cruel.” ([39:15])

Notable Exchange

• Tyler (on diagnosis shame):
  "If someone said, ‘Oh my god, I just got diagnosed with whatever... I got PTSD.’ [People say] ‘Right, you got PTSD. Right?’ Like, what the f*** is going on?" ([31:18])

4. Empathy Education: Small Acts & Advocacy ([43:11]–[56:47])

• Vulnerability is Strength: Tyler notes that sharing struggles helps others, even if it opens them up to judgment.
  • Catelynn: “You're contributing to people possibly killing themselves and doing permanent harm.” ([43:01])
• Encouragement to Practice Kindness: Cate urges actively spreading kindness, especially to strangers, and standing up for others.
  • Catelynn: "Remember to be kind to people...Just stand up for people. No matter what." ([56:11])

5. Lighter Moments & Family Life ([44:00]–[49:48])

• Random “Did You Know?” Facts: Tyler’s penchant for sharing weird and interesting trivia, from cold water “negative calories” to animal biology, is highlighted with loving exasperation by Catelynn. Their daughter Nova has inherited the same curiosity.
• Rescuing Dogs: The couple recently adopted a nervous rescue dog, Baxter, sharing the challenges of building a traumatised pet’s confidence.
  • Catelynn: “If you’re ready for a dog...please go look at your shelters.” ([55:09])

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Memorable Quotes

• Tyler (on homeschooling bias):
  “How do you eliminate bias?...Are you gonna teach them that the Earth is so many billion years old? Or that it’s 6,000 years old, based off the Bible?” ([11:11])
• Catelynn (on education approach):
  “I wouldn’t be able to do it...Sourdough making, whatever co-op meetings you have. Okay. I ain’t that parent.” ([07:37])
• Tyler (calling out online hate): "Kindness is so easy, guys. Why is it so hard for people to choose in your brain?" ([35:49])
• Catelynn (urging defense of others):
  “Stand up for all types of people.” ([31:54])
• Tyler:
  “Healed…individuals do not leave unnecessarily cruel comments on public posts.” ([39:02])

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Important Timestamps

| Time | Segment/Topic | |------------|--------------------------------------------------| | 00:08-05:51 | Family updates, Labor Day recap, school transitions, and emotional milestones with their youngest starting school | | 06:23-13:10 | Homeschool vs. public/private school debate, socialization, and concerns about bias | | 15:17-22:18 | Curriculum censorship concerns, vetting schools, and family values in education | | 23:17-24:56 | Navigating kids’ sickness, school attendance, parental instincts | | 25:44-43:11 | Social media judgment, diagnosis stigma, society’s empathy deficit, and fighting ableism | | 44:00-49:48 | Random trivia exchanges, family fun, and learning moments | | 51:01-56:11 | Rescuing a new dog, animal adoption advocacy, and making nervous pets feel safe | | 56:11-56:47 | Takeaway: Practicing daily kindness and bystander empathy |

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Conclusion

Tyler and Catelynn’s raw, unscripted reflections offer a heartfelt look into modern parenting, the personal challenges of neurodiversity, and the persistent need for empathy in today’s skeptical digital world. The Baltierra’s emphasize choosing public education for social and developmental reasons, balancing love with logic in parenting, and taking everyday opportunities to stand up for kindness. Their call to action: Be kind, speak up against cruelty, and remember that behind every screen is a real person.

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Transcript

[A]

Well, I hope everybody is. Well, I hope everybody had a very good Labor Day weekend. We had a big old party at our house, and I think the kids had way more fun than we did. All. Yeah. What?

[B]

Kids get a bounce house?

[A]

Yeah, we had a bounce house, and our friends came over and they swam in the pool, and we did fireworks at night time and had really good food, so that was really fun.

[B]

I made corn ribs the first time. I don't know if anyone's ever heard of that, but just do it. Just Google it. Look it up on Tik Tok, whatever.

[A]

I want you to make them again this time, but make them, like, juicy and, like, you know, like, I want.

[B]

To make garlic butter. Yes, Garlic butter. Drizzle it on there with that one kind of cheese.

[A]

Yeah, the. The.

[B]

Whatever.

[A]

The Mexican cheese. Like, the white Mexican cheese. I forget what it's called.

[B]

I don't know what it's called, but yeah.

[A]

So I hope all. I hope everybody else had a really good Labor Day weekend. We definitely did. This is week two of the kids being back in school, and we've already had one sickness, so I'm like, we can't be missing a bunch of school guys.

[B]

It always happens like this, though.

[A]

It does.

[B]

Every time. It's like, they go back to school, everything's fine. And then the first two weeks, stomach problems, coughing, sneezing, whatever, dude. Over it.

[A]

Yeah. And I think Vedas is definitely allergy. She gets it, like, twice a year. So yesterday I was like, we're starting the Zyrtec. Here we go at night, every night. You're taking your Zyrtec.

[B]

She's gonna be the kid that's gonna need Zyrtec.

[A]

Oh, for sure.

[B]

Yeah. All the time.

[A]

Made me think I need to buy my own Zyrtec because I feel like I get the same thing she does.

[B]

Do you think allergies come as you get older?

[A]

Maybe? Because I don't.

[B]

I. Babe, I don't never have any allergies.

[A]

I know.

[B]

You've never had them.

[A]

Maybe it's because we just live more up north. I don't know.

[B]

I know, but it's weird that you just never had them our whole lives, and then all of a sudden, boom.

[A]

Maybe it is a thing. I don't know.

[B]

That's weird.

[A]

So, yeah, I hope it was fun, though. I. We had a lot of fun with friends and family, and my mom came, and Ty's mom came, and my grandpa.

[B]

And then pretty much four hours cooking.

[A]

No, you did. I know. I felt like that's all you did the whole time.

[B]

Then people are trying to conversate with me. I don't know if anyone out there can relate to this, but, like, when you're. When you're hosting, right? And you're like, you're making. Well, how many dishes was I making once? Oh, probably five different dishes that take different times, temperatures, whatever. And you get people trying to, like, talk to you. I cannot. I can't do it.

[A]

Even though. Though that's our fault, because I originally told everybody, like, we will provide meat. You guys all bring the sides. And then how somehow we ended up making three sides.

[B]

So I don't know what the hell happened.

[A]

Because we didn't listen to ourselves.

[B]

No. But also the sides. They were bringing, like, potato salad. I hate potato salad.

[A]

Yeah, you do.

[B]

So I'm like, I'm not eating that side.

[A]

But your mom made pasta salad.

[B]

Yeah, I guess you're right. But you know how it. I don't know. When you're grilling and you're in charge of so many things being done at a certain time, and people are trying to talk to you about other stuff, I'm just like, dude, I cannot listen to you right now. I'm trying.

[A]

Oh, it is hard trying to cook and do all the things. Yeah.

[B]

And they're asking me, so, like, where's this? I'm like, I'm in the middle. You see me?

[A]

Ah, right. I don't know.

[B]

I'm frying 8 million different meats and seasoning different things and wash my hands 8 million times. I'll touch the chicken. And I can't answer where the hell that piece of paper is.

[A]

Nope. I know. It is funny. And it's always, like. It's always when you're in the middle of something and doing something, then people want to talk to you.

[B]

Oh. And it's always, I. I feel bad, but it's like questions, Like, I don't even know how to explain it. Like, just, like, questions. I'm gonna just look and you'll see it.

[A]

Where's your paper towel?

[B]

Oh, did you know? Do you know where that thing is? It's on the table, Right? The cutlery. I put it on the table.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Anyway, that's like, I'm bitching. But no, it was great. It was amazing.

[A]

It was fun. It was definitely fun. And the. But no, that's just like, kids. Kids could be silent all day. But then when you have to, like, sit down and do something or you have to make an important phone call or something, then they're all like, mom, Mom, Mom, Mom. And I'm like, oh, my God. You were quiet for hours. And now because I have to do something, you're all on me.

[B]

That's how it works.

[A]

It is.

[B]

Kids find the worst timing.

[A]

They do.

[B]

But this is the first week that. That Raya's in school.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Five days a week. Full days.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, that's crazy to me.

[A]

It was hard for you when you. We dropped her off.

[B]

I am a. You're not a. I'm a little. I am like, I. Dude, I don't know. But. And I. I felt like this with all of our kids, but I think just knowing she's the last one hit me.

[A]

Yeah, I know you were sad. I mean, I. I think it's. And like I told you. I know, I know, I know. Because her last is like our last. You know, there's. She's. That's it. You know. Then this morning we get her for school because this would be day four for her full days because they didn't have Monday because of the holiday. And this morning she was like. Didn't want to go. She was upset in the beginning, in the morning. And then I. So I just took it a little slower this morning with her. And then she was just all about. Then she wanted to go.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I know she's good for. Like I said, I. I know it's good. I know it's good that she's going to school. I. I know this in my head logically, but like, then I think about how many hours she's not with me at home and how many, like. Okay, now you're napping in a different place on a cot, right. You're not. Your comfy bed with your stars and your stuff. You're in of a classroom on a cot.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I don't know. You know what I mean?

[A]

I just got a napsack and.

[B]

No, I know. Obviously we get a comfy.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know, roll out bed thing to put on the cop, but still I just have all these crazy, like, just thoughts constantly. Like, okay, so she's gone for five hours a day. Times, you know, five days a week, Right?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

We only get 18 summers with these kids.

[A]

And I think what helps me the most is because, like the reason why I wasn't so like sad or anything, like, it's like, you're never sad.

[B]

How am I. Why am I always the one that's crying at these things?

[A]

Well, because. I don't know, I'm just a very. I try to stay very positive. About it. Like, I think what helped me, especially with Raya, is like, okay, like, yeah, it is our last baby, like, going to school. But what helps me, too, is, like, okay, well, you know, she is with an amazing teacher, and this teacher has had every single one of our children.

[B]

I know.

[A]

And she is so good at her job and adores these kids. And then when I go and I pick up Ryer after school, she's just like, I had the best day. I played and we cleaned and we painted, and, you know, they do all the things.

[B]

I know. I know it's good for her, but it's just like, dang, man. I think. Because you just know, like, this is like. Like, I know with Nova, and I know with Veda, like, once this happens, it's over with. Like, you're not gonna see your kids.

[A]

Right.

[B]

A lot. And then, you know, and then it's like. But I know. I know it's good for them. Like, so, like, if I was being selfish, I keep home. And I would do an online schooling.

[A]

Right.

[B]

For them, if I was selfish, because I know I wanted them home. You know, I'm saying.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But I also know I'm not a good teacher, so.

[A]

No.

[B]

I mean, I'm not designed for that.

[A]

No.

[B]

And also, I feel like the homeschool stuff, the online stuff is just. It's a different vibe than a classroom setting. And I also feel like within our opinion. Yeah, no, no. I mean, listen, home, school, your kids, that's fine. You're better than me. If you can. If you're homeschooling your kid, I'll just put it out there. You're better than I am. I don't have it. I'm not that strong. I'm not that patient. I'm not that. And I'm fine to admit it. Yeah. You know what? Hallelujah. Bow to you. Bow down to you in your homeschooling.

[A]

Yeah. Because I wouldn't be able to do it.

[B]

Sourdough making whatever co op meetings you have.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

Okay. I ain't that parent, so it is what it is. I. I don't. I don't. But I. What I noticed, though, is that when I posted about it, it was like, a very hot topic of people, like, liking and commenting, saying, homeschooler, homeschooler, homeschooler. It's like, dude.

[A]

What? That's weird.

[B]

I'm like, first off, I kind of feel like, in the way that the comments are, it's like, I can tell that you're, like, judging me and, well, okay, I can't say it for sure, but it feels like you are. And it's like, listen, I'm here to tell you, all right? Now, all you homeschooling parents, you don't have to tell me that you're better than me, okay? I'm gonna give it to you. You're way better than me. Okay? See? Don't got it. Are you happy? I hope you're great. I hope it's satisfying for you, but I feel like, dude, damn, bro.

[A]

But with me and you too, I mean, our opinion too, and it's just an opinion, is that when kids are in school, like we talked about yesterday, they learn. They make different types of friends. They learn about, like, social aspects of life, how to deal with hard conversations, how to pierce, stand up for yourself. Yeah. And like Nova, you know, she wouldn't have, I mean, half of the friends that she has if it wasn't through school and cheer and all the just social.

[B]

If it wasn't for school. I would not have the life that we wouldn't have the life we have. No, I would never have met you. I would never have met any of my friends that I have now, my childhood long term friends. I would not have them without school.

[A]

Right.

[B]

So, yes. And it's funny because the comment that was, was like, oh, you get to take back their childhood and then you get to have the memories with them. And it's like, yeah, but it's not about me, right? I'm not sending my kid to school for me. Trust me, if it was up to me, I want them here with me. I love them so much. And I cried like a bit. Fucking baby, watching that one go to school. Like, so I think, like, for me, I would rather have them home, but I know what's good for them and I know that there's things in school that are bigger than academics, social structures, social, you know, just gauging people in different environments and different types of kids and just developing that social skill. I guess you want to call. I don't know what you want to, but I feel like school, there's a lot more to it than just academics.

[A]

I think so. Yeah.

[B]

Also, I will say with homeschooling, how do you eliminate bias? Right? So how do you eliminate maybe subconscious bias? You know, like, I get a program from whatever it is, it's not. How is this program regulated? Is it regulated? Are they gonna teach about Martin Luther King?

[A]

I guess you would have to do a lot of, like, investigation and depending on what you want to Teach. Because I know some people. Some people homeschool their kids because they want them taught certain things and not other things.

[B]

Okay, that's my problem right there. Stop.

[A]

Why though?

[B]

Because that's their children. I understand. But if you're a good parent you will be able to go internal and ask your. And kind of just, just, just be honest with yourself that you are biased as a parent because you have different things. Whatever. Teachers are teachers following curriculum that. That is presented to that whatever. So I feel like if. And so people who are homeschooling their kids. How do you self regulate your bias? Like you're gonna teach them about.

[A]

I guess you'd have.

[B]

Are you gonna teach them that the earth is so many billion years old? Are you gonna teach them that the earth is 6000 years old based off the Bible or like whatever you're. How do you eliminate bias? I guess is my question. And how do you like.

[A]

I don't know. That's the thing. I guess homeschool they can do what they want.

[B]

That's a little freaky. I kind of.

[A]

That they want to.

[B]

I know what but that's, that's what I'm saying though is that I think as parents we have to admit to ourselves that we have this subconscious thing about being a bias teacher. I mean I know I for a fact that if I, my. If my kid was going to a school who was teaching creationism, I would have a problem with that.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know what I mean? Like you're so dynamic. You know what I mean? Like you're teaching the earth is only 6,000 years old. That's not true.

[A]

Right.

[B]

And we have science to, to back that up. And so that alone creates. I mean what a missed opportunity for the child to learn about. You know what I'm saying? Am I making any sense?

[A]

No, no.

[B]

Like the bias. Like how do you like. I don't even know if I trust myself to not be biased and I'm a pretty open minded and I feel.

[A]

Like you'd have to be open minded in order to homeschool. But then again it's like, you know, people are going to do what they want to do with their kids and if they feel like homeschooling is good for them and their family, absolutely, go for it.

[B]

But I guess, I guess for us old idea. I know what the energy I'm getting from the homeschooling community that okay, you're better than me. Got it.

[A]

Right. It's a weird.

[B]

You don't have to tell me these things. I. I'm giving it to you like.

[A]

You can have it.

[B]

You can have it. You're better than me. So much better than me. Okay, great. But I. It's almost like when. When. It's almost like when kids are homeschooled with a specific curriculum and then they go to, like a. A private college in, you know, let's just say a private Christian college that, you know, you. You're missing. Like, the kids deserve to go out and see other things. And if you're. If you're comfortable parents. I know, but if you're com. I think you're kind of like, you're not. You're. It's kind of a disservice to the children.

[A]

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[B]

And like I said, I'm saying this. Depending on what kind of curriculum you're following at home? I don't know if. Are they going to teach about Martin Luther King Jr. Are they going to teach about certain stuff that has happened in American history and just certain things? I don't know. I think with the, with the, with the climate, especially politically, like nowadays, I feel like it's getting weird. Like you're taking out certain books.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You're eliminating certain books.

[A]

And I think that's not even in just home school.

[B]

No, I'm saying. Yeah, but even like private schools, like you're paying money to go to. Know what I'm saying, though? Is that private school? Sure. You can, you can. That's what you're paid for. You pay to be biased and teach them what you want to teach them and what the school wants to teach them. Right. That's why it's private. That's why you pay money. That's why you wear uniforms. Right. Public school, though, that is not the place to put any kind of restrictions on knowledge and learning. You can't do that. It's public. It's a public school.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Like, you can't have, you know, you can't take away certain books out of there. You know what I mean? And so they're doing that. And that's why I'm saying this kind of climate we're in, it's concerning because you're going to raise a whole generation of homeschool kids who believe the earth is only 6,000 years old. Does that.

[A]

Not everybody, though. And.

[B]

But what I'm saying. No, I know not everybody. But I'm saying, like, that's, that's an example of a concern that I would have. Like, you're. And then they go to college and figure out, oh, holy. The Earth isn't, you know, like, it's not. Yeah. And it's because you chose to. To go the route of. Of a bias system. And maybe it's like. I don't know. I just feel like it's. I don't know. It's weird to me. It's weird and it's concerning. I don't want a whole generation of dumb dumbs because they.

[A]

But I bet you there are some really good parents out there that homeschool.

[B]

No, I.

[A]

As far as a lot of good parents.

[B]

No, God, please don't. I'm not saying anything about homeschooling parents, whatever.

[A]

As a whole.

[B]

Yeah. I'm saying certain ones that I've seen. It's concerning. Yeah. Commenting on my stuff, saying that this is why we homeschooled and blah, blah. It's like, all right, dude. Like, so that's. It's concerning that we're. We're might be raising kids to not have full access to the knowledge that they should have access to.

[A]

I get.

[B]

I get that. And that's also why I kind of, like, I. I feel the same way about private school in a way, because they can just choose well.

[A]

And I think that's. But that's what. That's what, like what? Well, yeah, and that's why people interview the schools when they're wanting to go to private school. You find out, like, who teaches, you know, correct, what you are, what you believe to be true or whatever.

[B]

Yeah, you're right. So you pretty much, as a parent, do the due diligence.

[A]

Yeah, absolutely.

[B]

Research, research, research.

[A]

Meet with the school.

[B]

Yeah. How do you figure it out?

[A]

Look at their curriculum, all that. Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. But that just got me thinking, like, wow. What?

[A]

Like, yeah, and thankfully for us, too, like, we. Where we are, where. Like, where we live, we have such a good.

[B]

It's a great school, school district.

[A]

I mean, there is some sketchy things going on with, like, teacher. Teachers being paid and, like, weird there where, you know, the teachers have been, like, protesting and. And my belief is, like, they are. They deserve it. And I'm so proud of all the teachers going out there and protesting. I was talking to Nova the other day. I said, I hope they. I said, I wish they would do a whole walkout, like, when all the kids are at the school, all, oh, there's no teachers here. And it goes, well, then what do we do? And I said, you walk out with those teachers.

[B]

Absolutely.

[A]

You know what I mean? You go and you stand with them. That's how you show the bit, you know, the biggest. Yeah.

[B]

You know what I mean? Yeah.

[A]

But other than that, like, we have a very good school district as far as, like, curriculum and how much these teachers just love the kids here. Like, we're. I'm blessed that we have that we're in the school district that we are.

[B]

And I guess it comes down to, like, how. How good you are at vetting the schools, you know, and. And we did a pretty good job of that.

[A]

Well, I wasn't gonna move to a place. The school, even if I love the house, because I'm a kid and I know I'm gonna have more like that.

[B]

Plus, we never. We've. We've never even thought about private school. No, I. I wouldn't want to do it. I like my kids to be Able to wear certain clothes that they want. I just.

[A]

Yeah. Freedom of expression.

[B]

Yeah. All of it.

[A]

Yeah. It's just not for our family.

[B]

Yeah, that's okay. For our family at all.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But also, you know, even the, like, how does that even work? I'm just now I'm like really curious about like, how does it work?

[A]

What?

[B]

Like, how do your kids gain any social structure, knowledge, whatever, if you're. They're always at home.

[A]

I think that's why they do. I think that's why in the more recent years people have been doing like the meetup homeschool teachings with other kids.

[B]

Right. But one week co op meeting a week is not going to do the same thing that it would do for a kid to eat every single day, multiply with a multicultural, multi background. Yeah. In a cafeteria and in the playground. You know I'm saying. So it's not the same thing.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. Like that's crazy. I also feel like. And then it got me thinking about, oh, the intention with homeschooling, is it more to do with your control as a parent? Like do you want, do you think you're smarter than the administration at the current school, public school, that's how they feel or not? You know what I'm saying? Or is it about you? Like I said, if I was selfish, I'd keep home and I give them a little online program and yay, I love you so much.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But that's not what I want for, for my kid. I want my kid.

[A]

I didn't go to school to teach or to teach kids or none of that. So I'm not qualified.

[B]

But like I said, like, so the asking of the intention, like what is it for? Is it for you to have control as a parent, more control as a parent? Or is. Is it because you want them home with you all the time? Is it, you know, what is it for? I don't know. I'm just curious. It got me, got my brain.

[A]

I feel like what I've heard a lot in the past is it's more or less they want to know exactly what their children are being taught.

[B]

Well, that, that information is available to you as a parent at every school.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You go talk with the person. Can I get a booklet, a curriculum printout? Can I get a printout of what you're required as a teacher? It's, you know what I mean? Especially public school. It's all you can get that information.

[A]

Right.

[B]

So if that's what it's all about, well then do it. And then what you do. The beautiful thing about public school is that you don't like something. You go to the board meetings, you go.

[A]

You.

[B]

You can actually have a. You have a way to fight a little bit for certain things to change or, you know, and I just don't feel like you get that freedom with private school or, like, online school. What are you gonna do, contact, I.

[A]

Don'T know, private schools? You might. Because, I mean, they are getting money from the. These people that are putting these kids in their school. So they might even have, like, more of a poll as far as, like, at the board meetings and like that. You know what I mean? Because without these kids, you got zero money, bro.

[B]

True.

[A]

You know, but I don't know. I'm not fully educated in this whole.

[B]

No, I'm just talking because I just. I just throw. It's a comment on my post and I'm like, yeah, wow. It feels. Your Just feels a little.

[A]

Little.

[B]

Little side eye. You know what I mean? Like, well, homeschool, then it's like.

[A]

It's like, whoa, okay. Why don't you come home?

[B]

Yeah, you come homeschool, bro.

[A]

Like, what?

[B]

I'm not doing it.

[A]

Hell no.

[B]

And maybe. And I tell you, I thought about it multiple times because I was so sad.

[A]

I don't have the. I just. Yeah, I don't not. I would not be a good teacher.

[B]

I wouldn't either. I know that.

[A]

Yeah, me too. So no, thank. No, thank you.

[B]

I just didn't think it would hit me as hard as it did with Raya. Yeah, I kept trying to hold my. That, you know, that lump in.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. Well, her firsts are all of our lasts. You know, we get to do, you know, the bigger kids are doing things and, you know, but, like, her last are our. Her first are our last. Like, we don't have any more children after that, you know, but also, it's like, you think about all the. The beautiful firsts that you're gonna have with, like, Nova and Beta too, you know, because they're getting older. But even what. Nova's missed, like, two days of school already, and it's only the second weekend. And I was telling Ty and. And I think Amber and stuff too. I was like, can't be missing school, dude, because they. We are. We have a trip to Disney where they're missing a whole week and they don't even know about it. Like, you gotta go to school.

[B]

I know.

[A]

Obviously, if they're puking and, like, that's different. I'm not gonna force you to go to school. That's just wrong. Plus, I don't send sick kids to school because that's how spreads. Yeah, but I'm just like, in my head, I'm like, oh, my God.

[B]

I know.

[A]

We're gonna.

[B]

Yeah, but you should have saw her that morning. Her stomach, she was balling her eyes out.

[A]

Well, yeah, and you're, you know, it's.

[B]

Like, all right, yeah, no, but see, I. But I didn't listen to our rule. I went against my. My intuition said no.

[A]

Yeah, but you probably would have called us anyways at the school.

[B]

Yeah. The way she was crying, I think it'd be different if I was seeing her. She was crying hard to school, like. And I was like, listen, you don't have a fever. You ain't puking. You're going to school. If you puke at school, you spike a fever at school, they'll call me and then I'll come get you. And she just. The way she was like, okay. And I was like, okay, all right.

[A]

Right? It didn't feel right.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

Good. I'm glad you went off that.

[B]

I did, because I was like, oh, you look like she was in pain. I could tell.

[A]

So, yeah, it was weird. Stomach aches and stuff.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

It's only the second week, man. Like, what, you don't even got to.

[B]

Get up with the morning?

[A]

No. I do all the bedtime stuff, though.

[B]

I know, but it's funny. You're like, oh, it's only a second week.

[A]

I mean, as far as, like, sickness.

[B]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

Like what? It's crazy.

[B]

It is crazy.

[A]

I'm like, do they use Lysol in these places? Like, are we wiping down? Are we making kids wash their hands? Like, what's going on here? Because this is crazy.

[B]

They always spread stuff in school, though. It's inevitable.

[A]

Oh, yeah. This will probably be the first year Raya gets sick.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know.

[B]

Oh, yeah, that's right. Oh, she's not a fun sick kid, dude. She is whiny. No, but there are some kids who are a little self sufficient. Give him a blanket on the couch.

[A]

And rain juice and something kind of chill, you know?

[B]

She's like, no.

[A]

Rye is more or less like, hold me, let me lay on you.

[B]

If you get up and walk away. She's like, oh, my God, you're the neediest, whiniest sick kid ever.

[A]

So funny.

[B]

But yeah, I just wanted to bring that up a little bit because I didn't know if that was a. That was. That was a comment that I received when I posted about it, but that wasn't the only comment I got. I got a com. A lot of guys. I don't know what it is going on with society and the albism, whatever's happening. Because it's definitely something. Talk about autistic diagnosis, being diagnosed with autism on the spectrum, whatever. Like you people, I don't know what's going on. Society is either losing empathy. We are getting hardened. I don't know what's happening, but I. The comments were so appalling and like, they were disgusting. They were. Yeah, they were. You're right. They were downright just discussed.

[A]

There was people that were supportive and like, going at some of these people for sure, which. Thank you. Because they were speaking so many truths. But the people that some people on there, I'm like, you're just disgusting. You know, so what. So you call. What, like this one that messaged you. You want to call my nephew a. Because he's got autism, right? Who the are you? I don't come to my house and tell me it is about my husband disturbing. Because I will beat the out of you. And I. You can. You can be able to.

[B]

Well, like you said, all the other autistic people, you're saying, oh, you're not autistic. You're just an. You're not autistic. You're just a. You're not autistic. You're just narcissistic. Like, what? All these things. I'm like, bro.

[A]

Huh? Or I saw somebody was like, oh, yeah, I call. They just needed a storyline. I'm like, again, we don't ever come up with storylines for our show. It's literally our life. And if you don't understand that, then I guess something is really wrong with you. It's not like we sit here and brainstorm about, oh, let's. Let's pretend you're autistic. Right? I had a miscarriage. Or that I'm struggling with my mental health.

[B]

Is that what it is, though? People really. Maybe they're so far disconnected that the fact that we're real human beings experiencing real life struggles, triumphs, whatever, is what is documented.

[A]

Our. Our series has always been a docu series, like a documentary. They just follow our lives. We don't script in our lives to make a fucking storyline.

[B]

Yeah, and there are times where we were filming, we had to do a pickup. They called pickup scenes, where it's like, oh, I didn't get you walking the door. Hey, can you repeat that? You just said that my camera wasn't on you. There are. And there are situations that happen like that, but that's not the same as like coming you. You. What blows my mind is you really think and anyone that as you know, anyone that's diagnosed asd, whatever, like you think we all just wake up and want this or something. It's weird. Like, you think this is something that people want to have, right? Like, what are you crazy?

[A]

Sure.

[B]

Like, and like you said, you think up, like, what do I gotta do? Pull out my whole report, right? Show it to you?

[A]

Like, diagnose.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

What's none of your business, first of all.

[B]

Well, and honestly though, it makes me question if, if anyone came to me and said, oh, I got diagnosed with, with anxiety disorder, I'm not gonna be like, like, what, bro?

[A]

Oh, you're lying.

[B]

Oh, you're lying.

[A]

You just want attention. What? Right?

[B]

Where have we.

[A]

How empathy.

[B]

How have we gotten here to society where we're instead of saying, oh, wow, can you explain more about that? Or oh, wow, yeah, what is that like? Or you're gonna question people's diagnosis. You're going to literally shame them. Shame them for having it. Tell them that they're liars for having it. Like, where is shame them?

[A]

What is talking going on? It's the empathy thing. Yeah.

[B]

It's albism. It really is.

[A]

What is LB ism?

[B]

I don't want to get it wrong. Let me just, I'll. Yeah. So discrimination and prejudice against people with disabilities based on the belief that a non disabled body or mind is superior, resulting in practices and attitudes that exclude and devalue disabled individuals. So it's like, it's a society based belief. Like, oh, you could almost like, God, you get diabetes, right? Or I don't know, you can just lose weight and get rid of it. Like you're, you're, you're like, that's not always accurate. It's not always accurate. Type one, type two, you know, so. But that's what I'm like, wow, this is actually interesting. I have never once in my head saw someone be vulnerable and say, I just got diagnosed with blah. Where'd you get it from? I don't see no symptoms.

[A]

Right?

[B]

You haven't, you don't look like you got cancer.

[A]

Right?

[B]

Like, what the. You know, like, like, dude, like, it's.

[A]

Because they're doing it behind screens.

[B]

What the is wrong?

[A]

I'm about to post the face.

[B]

I mean, the comments I was getting, like, I think I sent it to you, but I'll pull it up because I think people don't get it. Like, this is what. This is how. This is. This is where we are with society. This is where people are belief.

[A]

And that's sad too because it's like, so what do you look at all these little kids and stuff too that get diagnosed with autism and you're thinking these things like. Or is it just adults that get diagnosed that you're judging them for? Because if you're judging anybody because they're sharing that they have an autism diagnosis. Diagnosis. You are a sick, cold hearted individual.

[B]

Like this one right here. Always look, he's insufferable. Always a victim. No matter what the situation or scenario, he's somehow always a victim. What guys? Okay, you think that I'm like you. You think I'm actively choosing to be this way? Like, bro, I. I don't know. Okay. Yeah. Just think it's. It's like these people are really unnecessarily cruel. Autism, more like ism. That one was funny. But still it's. It's funny. But that's up.

[A]

It is.

[B]

Because what the does that mean? So you're. You're looking at. You're questioning the diagnosis instead of saying I'm an asshole, right? Just undiagnosed asshole isn't what the bro. Like, yeah, it needs attention.

[A]

That's what I mean.

[B]

Like, do people really don't blame having autism of being an. You just collect a mental health diagnosis as a hobby. Like, why?

[A]

Because that's something that I want to have and do.

[B]

Like, what the. Dude, I have never ever went after anybody and I never. It would never be a thought my brain. If someone said, oh my God, I just got diagnosed with whatever the fuck it is, right? Anxiety disorder. I got ptsd. I remember like, right, you got ptsd. You right? Like, what the is going on? Where have we. And I think. Okay, anyone listening? If you hear this type of stuff coming from other people, please take it upon yourself to be a social justice warrior and stand firm and say that was wrong.

[A]

Or stand up for all types of people.

[B]

Please stand up for the. Because. Because I am. It's so exhausting to see lack of empathy, coldness and just judgment. And that's the popular comment. That's a popular belief. Instead of all the comments that are like, you know, supportive and showing empathy.

[A]

It's like, oh, I'm so happy you could.

[B]

No, it's. I think society. We're in a weird culture war. I almost feel like we're like, I don't know.

[A]

Have you thought. Have you thought about just Disabling your comments.

[B]

I mean, no, listen, listen, I'm not saying I, I don't drown in these comments.

[A]

I know you don't, but I'm just saying why give people the platform?

[B]

I think it's show. I think I, it. People are talking because, listen, there were a lot of people, I will say everyone out there defending it. Beautiful job. You guys did a great job. You were listing things that were factual and not opinion based. But that's why it's because, sure, that's the most common. Everyone's like, yeah, yeah, let's come together and hate. But then there are people and those people deserve, that's what deserves to be shown and seen is the, is, is the, is the, the empathy? Because I think people are jumping on a hate train that's like, they're fighting, you know, community in this hate and just being an.

[A]

Who would want to live like that? No, I'm not sure that's disturbing, but.

[B]

That'S what I'm saying. I'm confused, confused on where we, where we're at. So I, I, I like really urge people to just be a social justice warrior and go out there and, and defend people and stand up for like that's, don't let it just slide by. If they, if you hear someone say something stupid and it hits you. Ignorant, mean, cruel, unnecessarily cruel, say, whoa, bro. Yeah, like that was, you know what I mean? I don't know. Just try harder, guys. This is no. Sad.

[A]

No. Some of those people, though, I'm literally like, I'm like, come to my. How you want my address? I will give you my address. I want you to stand in front of me and say that to my husband because I will knock your teeth out.

[B]

And you're not just saying it to me. You're saying about anyone who's reading these comments who have autism.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Or any kind of thing.

[A]

And then you wonder why people don't talk about it. Thank you. Or they're too nervous or scared to get diagnosed.

[B]

Yeah, they're scared to get diagnosed.

[A]

You got people, you got a society judgment.

[B]

Literally telling you your doctor's wrong. You're wrong because you're a.

[A]

Okay, Sally. Because you went to school. School. To be a doctor that diagnoses people. Sit down.

[B]

No, it's funny. I actually responded to one comment. I said, All I said was. No, you're absolutely right. All the, the, the, all the doctors with PhD degrees in 20 years experience and, and, and people who are expert in their field of study, psychology, whatever it Is, you're right. They're all wrong. But you, Sally. All right, right, sure. Like, what the is going on? It's so weird, bro.

[A]

That's a perfect comment too.

[B]

Like what? Yeah, you're right. They're all. You're right, you're right.

[A]

Those people are all wrong. Spent half their lives in school there, but they're wrong.

[B]

And people almost. And, and this goes to show that people who are even on tick tock, who make a living off hating on us. Like, sure, you're right.

[A]

Right.

[B]

You're right, you're right. Everyone else is wrong. I don't have autism. I have odd.

[A]

Right?

[B]

I don't have autism. I have narcissism. You know what I mean?

[A]

Like what the.

[B]

No, yeah, you're right. They're all wrong. Yeah, my psychiatrists are wrong.

[A]

Right.

[B]

All the doctors are wrong.

[A]

Right.

[B]

But you random online tick tock hater. Whatever the you are.

[A]

What degree? Let me see.

[B]

With nothing. You're sitting on the floor right in your room, like it's weird. You're right, you're right. Yeah, you're right. Yeah. All the doctors and professionals who are experts in their field who went to school for this are wrong. You're right.

[A]

I feel like some people really believe that it's crazy. And then you're the one who's got some mental health issues.

[B]

No, I, I really feel like the, the, it's. The comments are a projection. They. They have to because there's no re. You don't go out of your way to say something like that to somebody. Like I said, dude, kindness is so easy. Guys.

[A]

Yeah. Why is it so hard for people.

[B]

To choose in your brain? You know how many like, judgmental thoughts I have my brain per day? I never say them out loud and I don't, I don't allow them to sit in my head for long enough to even think about writing in a comment.

[A]

Right. It doesn't.

[B]

It pass. I'm. Oh, that was a little weird. But also, and like I don't dwell on it. Like in kindness is so easy where you just, you just go, wow, that must be harder. I don't understand that.

[A]

Well, and if so, let me learn.

[B]

About it or whatever. I don't know.

[A]

And if culture doesn't change when it comes to like people sharing diagnosis meant like speaking about mental health, even all the things, then the stigma is always going to be there. Then we're always going to have people taking their own lives because there's too nervous, scared to be judged by people. It's like all of the things like the stigma around everything will always stand if people can't just be kind or learn to shut the up.

[B]

And I'm not saying just be and, and we need to do more than just be kind. You need to call out, which, that's what I mean when I say social justice warrior. You need to call out. You see the unnecessary cruelty happen in.

[A]

Front of you or online.

[B]

Yeah, be that person. And yeah, you may get a lot of. Understand the hate is really loud right now for some reason. Hate is louder than love right now. I don't know why, I don't know what's going on. I think it has a lot to do with, just like I said, it's culture war. I don't know. I. So as a culture, we're in a war. You're a warrior, you're a soldier, get out there. And, and it's. You need to do more than just be kind. You need to call out the cruelty when you see it.

[A]

Right.

[B]

And show the mirror in front of people like you. You didn't have to, you didn't have to leave this comment. And I think people kind of like, they separate social media people or Internet famous people or quote unquote, famous celebrities. They, they separate them from real people because it's like, yeah, dude, when you, when you, when you comment something really meaning negative or whatever, and then someone goes, wow, that was really. Someone calls you out, one of those social justice warriors says, hey, that was really cruel and mean. Try some empathy. They go, well, they put the lives out out there for us to judge. And that's what I'm doing.

[A]

It's like, bro, you can still choose. Hey. Or not say anything at all.

[B]

You're right. I am putting my life publicly out there to be scrutinized to a point.

[A]

Right.

[B]

But that's not the only reason I'm doing this. And also, why do you want and desire to be a part of that scrutiny? Why do you want, why do you want?

[A]

Because they're miserable themselves. It's just like bullies in school.

[B]

Projecting.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Have to be.

[A]

There's like when, you know, when you're in elementary school, middle school, and you're being bullied, it's like, you know, like people always say, you know, that that kid has either got something going on at home, he doesn't love himself, she maybe doesn't have the best home life. Whatever it is, there's always something going on. You know what I mean? And they're bullies because I'll be honest with you.

[B]

Truly healed people don't spend their time on tick tock, criticizing and bashing other people anything. Secure healed people do not leave unnecessarily cruel comments on public posts.

[A]

Right. No, I agree.

[B]

Healed, you know, people who are secure do not go on random forum pages and just bathe in hatred and judgment. They don't do that.

[A]

No, you're right.

[B]

I don't do that. I'm a very healed individual. I have a lot of healing to do. We're continuing this journey, whatever. I'm a human being, whatever. Probably never lifelong journey, whatever. But I am a secure, healing individual. And I have yet to this day go on anyone's public post and be unnecessarily for them or anything, or a forum or startup, whatever. The I haven't started any hate, you know, snark pages. None of that stuff. So it's like, I know we can all do it. Yeah, I know everyone's capable of doing it.

[A]

Some people just don't want to grow up and learn and change and there's always going to be.

[B]

I want to know. I almost want to get a psychologist and say, what is the psych. What is the social psych? Like, what is the social study about people coming together not for a good cause, but just. Just to hate? They're common.

[A]

I think maybe it's like they didn't have us community or maybe like close friendships until they start doing these things like forums and talking about specific people.

[B]

That's a good point.

[A]

And then when people start feeding into that and they're like, oh, I agree. It makes them feel like, oh, I have a sense of community now. They all believe me, too. And it's like, whatever.

[B]

Yeah, but they. But to know that your whole friend group is based off of your common, shared hatred.

[A]

Yeah, it's strange. I know it's strange.

[B]

Very, very weird.

[A]

It is very.

[B]

It's toxic.

[A]

It is gotta be. That's what I said. I'm like, how do you live every day?

[B]

Like, you know, like it's. Oh, my God, it blows my mind.

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[B]

Was really interesting because, and I also felt really bad reading some of the comments because I know that there's people, I've had, I've had private messages of people writing me saying, you know, thank you so much for being vulnerable and sharing this diagnosis, you know, publicly and talking about it and just getting people talking about autism because it needs to be talked about. And those people who are writing me and they're saying stuff like, oh, my son just got diagnosed, my sister was diagnosed, all these people that, that they're like, oh, I just got diagnosed myself, they're reading this stuff, right? So you're not just commenting on me. Like, please understand that you're really making it very difficult for anyone to come forward and be vulnerable and talk about.

[A]

Which holds that stigma. And you know, you're contributing to people.

[B]

You'Re contributing to people possibly killing themselves and doing permanent harm. Like that one girl who got, who killed herself and she had kids, right?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And her husband. And just I think we talked about it before, but yeah, that story really hit me. It's like, dude, this is what your unnecessarily cruel cruelty is doing to people.

[A]

You don't know what people are going through.

[B]

You know, that's just mind blow. I just didn't think that there would be that much like criticism on me coming out and saying that I was diagnosed autistically. I, I'm shocked. I'm like still reading.

[A]

So like, wow, dude, why Are you reading it, though?

[B]

No, I'm. Because it's interesting to me.

[A]

It is? Well, why?

[B]

It's very interesting.

[A]

You and I are so different because it's like, literally my pages are like, if I don't follow you, you can't comment it. Because I'm like, I ain't giving you the time of day or the platform. You can message me all you want. And I see lots of messages and.

[B]

No, I get your approach. I think my approach is more from a studying perspective. I like to see said autism. Like, I'll be honest.

[A]

Let me study these people.

[B]

Let me figure it out. Because I think.

[A]

Listen, literally last night I come upstairs and he's like. I was plugging in our tablet so he could record tomorrow. And he's like, did you know? And I'm like, here it goes. And he's like, did you know that cold water has negative calories? And I'm like, what? I'm like, what are. I'm like, what's life? I'm like, so what about hot water?

[B]

No, at first you're like, how does water. I thought water has zero calories. I'm like, yeah, it does have zero calories. Cold ice. Cold water has negative calories. And you're like, what? And it's like, well, it's negative calories. Your act, your. Your body spends calories, but it's burning calories to regulate the cold water temperature to your body. It's not interesting. Am I the only one thing's interesting?

[A]

No, it's interesting, but it's so funny because if people could ever know, like, we just have to. We might have to create a spot of the podcast where it's like, Tyler's did you knows. Because he's says it so many times a week. We're. And no, a lot of them are super.

[B]

This is why I love you. Because you. You. You tolerate me.

[A]

Well, yeah. And it's that I've never known. I'm like, oh, wow. That's actually really interesting. But it's so funny because. And it's the most random times of the day, night. You know, we could be almost going to bed. Like, Blaine, Colin, hey, did you know? I'm like, where the did that come from? You know? You do, though, don't you?

[B]

I know. It's because, guys, when I get new information and I learned something, I'm like, whoa. I don't.

[A]

Yeah, you want to share it?

[B]

I'm like a little kid with candy. I want to share the candy. Come here.

[A]

Wants to share.

[B]

Well, you Know what I mean? That's how it feels for me, dude.

[A]

Dude. But. And it's funny because I noticed Nova does the same.

[B]

I love it.

[A]

She'll teach me things. Hey, mom, did you know that? And I'm like, no, I did not. Like, she told me the one day she's like, did you know that it's that the bird, the kiwi birds, should actually be extinct? And I was like, no. Why? And she's like, because when they have their eggs, their eggs are actually the complete size of their bodies. And so when they push out the egg, she's like, basically, they should just be killing themselves. Like, she teaches me things all the time, and I'll look at stuff up on Google, and I'm like, oh, my God, she's right.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

She's her father. Did you know?

[B]

No, but I also welcome it, too, because if I say something and it's like, oh, yeah, I welcome it, please, Like, I want to learn more about it. So if you go on Google and find something contradictory to what I'm saying, please let me know. I would love to.

[A]

Same thing with Nova. And I'll be like, oh, well, actually, like, you were almost right, but this is how it happens, you know? And she's like, oh, okay. You know, like, because, you know, if it happens and she's only partially right about something, I want her to know.

[B]

Be, you know, Like, I just learned the other day that hyenas pretty much give birth through a giant.

[A]

Yeah, I saw that.

[B]

Did you see it too?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, actually, it's, like, excruciating. Yeah, it's the most excruciating, like, thing.

[A]

So their just, like, comes out of their body.

[B]

No, they're. They're a giant clit, pee hole, clit hole.

[A]

Thing comes out like a penis.

[B]

Like, giant. Yeah. And it's very. Like, they have to pass through. Yeah, it's a whole thing, dude.

[A]

Why doesn't it just come out their vagina?

[B]

They don't really have one.

[A]

Really? So you know what I'm saying?

[B]

Yeah, it's like when they have sex.

[A]

That goes in their too.

[B]

Oh, I don't know.

[A]

Or their.

[B]

Well, they got a hole most.

[A]

Right.

[B]

A real. On a human, like, whatever doesn't have a hole.

[A]

Well, it's just the urethra. Right.

[B]

Well, the reader is below the clay.

[A]

Well, what then? What then? There's no hole in the clitoris.

[B]

No, honey, there's no hole in the clitoris.

[A]

You're lying.

[B]

I'm not lying. Did you know. Did you know that the clit does not have a hole.

[A]

I did not.

[B]

Really? Where did you think the pee comes from? You thought it came out of your.

[A]

Yeah, like right there. No, girl, dude.

[B]

No, the urethra is very close. It's below the.

[A]

Below it.

[B]

It's called the U spot. You know, the. All the erogenous zones of the vulva. That's one of them.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Well, did you know, can you spot.

[B]

It's called you spot. Some girls, really, they get turned on by, you know, you mess around through your ether hole, that area. Oh, whatever.

[A]

Okay. Interesting. I don't know.

[B]

Anyway, yeah, so, no, your clip does not have a hole, but I think hyenas, they do because it's like a.

[A]

You know, I'm intrigued. I'm like, what?

[B]

Yeah, look it up. Because they. They literally. Yeah. They're supposed to.

[A]

They have a vagina or just a. I wonder.

[B]

Do you.

[A]

Right.

[B]

They do, but they. They give birth. The canal isn't. They don't give it. You know, that is weird. I know. It's a. I don't even. Just look it up, man. I don't know, man.

[A]

Because we're talking about hyena clips and.

[B]

No, not human. I'm shocked. I can't believe you didn't. I can't believe you, as a woman, thought that.

[A]

The clip has a lot about my own vagina. So, you know, we've had many conversations about, you know. But actually, it's proven that a lot of women don't even really know a lot about their own vaginas.

[B]

Yeah, it is. They don't know about. They. They don't.

[A]

Right.

[B]

That's actually. There you go.

[A]

Ding, ding, ding, ding.

[B]

But, yeah, for people to think you're.

[A]

Gay and you know so much about the woman.

[B]

Girl, yo, you only knew. You know what I'm saying? I got a master's degree in that. No, but. But it's. Because it's very interesting to me. I think the female body is one of the most divine creations. It is super interesting ever made. And I think another life, I was probably like a ob. That's a little weird, but I don't know. It's very interesting, though, the. The women's reproductive system and everything about it.

[A]

The fact that maybe you were a scientist or something.

[B]

Yeah, but the fact that you're. That. That you have an organ designed for pleasure. The clip doesn't do anything for you.

[A]

Right.

[B]

No reproductive purpose at all.

[A]

Right.

[B]

So what? The multiple orgasms. Girls can have those. You know what I'm saying?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It's crazy.

[A]

Yeah. We are.

[B]

I think the scientific theory is correct about the clit. Used to be inside of the canal. Maybe could you walk on all fours? But evolution, now it's outside of the canal. So back. There's a theory that when we were all on all fours and we were, you know, closer to the primate. Whatever, whatever. That the woman would have to have an orgasm order for the egg to drop. And. And they're like, because what? There's no.

[A]

It should still be there.

[B]

Yeah, that's what you're talking about. Yo. It. Listen, if a girl's. If girls were women were required to have an orgasm in order for an egg to drop be fertilized, we. The birth rate would be a lot lower. Right.

[A]

Because some guys are lazy as.

[B]

They're lazy as hell. I don't understand. So. But I think it's interesting. I'm like, wow, that's really weird. But that's the theory is that once we started standing up, evolution to gold. And once we started standing up on all twos or all twos. All twos. We started standing up upright and walking. The click gradually grew outside of the canal and closer to the, you know, weird. Up. Yeah.

[A]

That is strange, isn't it?

[B]

And that's so. In a way, it's like, how cool would that be, though, if society was so like that? Because then it's like, hey, either you're good at this, you're not. And if you ain't good at it.

[A]

Yeah. If you don't work, you don't work your damn.

[B]

No. Yeah. It makes you think, what. What is it? What has that done to evolution?

[A]

Well, like you said when we had this conversation a couple days ago, like you said, who knows? Maybe it would have made us closer to being extinct.

[B]

True.

[A]

Even, you know, right now.

[B]

But evolution is usually always on the side of, you know.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Keeping us alive and going. Yes, but.

[A]

Yeah, but also. So also this week we. We adopted a new dog.

[B]

Oh, yeah? Yep. Baxter.

[A]

Yeah, he's kind of snuggling next to me right now.

[B]

They can't see him.

[A]

You don't think so? Oh, okay, here, hold my mic for.

[B]

All the audio listeners. Stand by. Oh, Baxter, look at him. He's just scared. He's like 4 years old. I'm pretty sure he was not treated very well because he's very skittish and scared. But he's getting used to us. Oh, Baxter, we rescued a dog.

[A]

Yeah, we rescued him. We also rescued our Remy, our bigger dog that we have. And Baxter is definitely. We're working on, like, Building confidence and trust. He's very, very scared. It is sad. Yeah. So I don't, we don't really know much about like his home lives. I know that we are his third home. So I think it's harder for him to like build trust because so many.

[B]

But trust me, this is his third and his final home.

[A]

Yeah. But I, and I feel bad because I think so many people, you know, he probably gets trust with these people and lets loose and then he's given away and then he has to do it all over again. Like that's sad.

[B]

I know, it is sad.

[A]

And we're still, we're still having a couple problems with him. Like just not wanting to go outside to use the bathroom. I mean I can walk out there for a half hour and walk in all these different spots and he just doesn't go. And he has had a couple accidents in the house. And then I'm like googling stuff because I'm like, oh my God.

[B]

I think it might be a nervous system thing. He just not.

[A]

They said that and I look, I looked it up and it said, you know, a lot of. Because he's not really eating much either. All the time. He more or less will drink water. But he's been having the runs and he's just not wanting to eat a lot. And so I'm thinking just this because this is day four.

[B]

Do you think we should have some Xanax maybe?

[A]

Right? Like dogs.

[B]

No, seriously. I know that cuz you can use it like to like, like I know some people use it for their dogs to even go to sleep.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like help sleep. Because they're so hyper crazy.

[A]

I'm like, yeah, but I did, I was doing some research too and they said like rescue dogs, like they, they. There is a higher tendency of them having accidents because they're just stressed and nervous and scared. Yeah. And I don't know, he's like super, super scared.

[B]

Yeah. I've actually never met a dog this scared before.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

That. It's sad. It's heartbreaking.

[A]

But then when we leave to like go get the kids or like, you know, and then we come home then he's like this past yesterday and today we come home and he's like actually wagging his tail. Like his tail's not locked in between his legs. He's like looking his take tail whining, giving kisses and I'm like, okay. So I can see it in him.

[B]

We just gotta. It's supposed to take some time.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But he'll get there.

[A]

But he's so cute. He reminds me so much of Caddy when I first saw him. When I went in there, I cried. I couldn't help it because I was like, oh my God, like, remember you.

[B]

Kept showing us pictures too and all. Like, I, I. People don't hate me for this, but I can't stand certain dogs. You know what I'm saying?

[A]

Well, yeah, and I, and I feel you on the whole, like, not all Chihuahuas are cute.

[B]

No, they're not. Yeah, they're not. They're ugly ass, weird shaped Chihuahuas, bro. And honestly, I just don't like any dogs that have smushed faces, wrinkles, droopy eyes, mouth drool.

[A]

He's picky.

[B]

I don't like any pinky, pinky skin. I don't like any albino looking, pink nose, pink ears, pink eyelids.

[A]

I know you're weird.

[B]

And I don't like any drooling dogs. I don't like any wrinkled dogs. I don't like any dogs that have smushed snouts and stuff. And anyway, so, yeah, so I'm picky, I guess. You kept showing me pictures. But he was cute. You're cute.

[A]

So after we adopted Remy, we said, like, this will be the way that we go about it every time, you know, because there's so many just like peop. There's so many dogs sitting in these places that want forever loving homes. And that's what we're gonna do, you know, from here on out. Like we said, like, I'm not gonna give money to a breeder that has puppies when we have tons of dogs. Like really sad, like just wanting to be loved and in a forever home. So, I mean, if anybody is out there listening and say, your home is ready for a dog or another one, like, please go look at your shelters. Go on pet finder. Like if you're willing to drive two hours, four hours, whatever, like, go on pet Finder. You can talk to the people.

[B]

Yeah, you can talk to the people.

[A]

You can, you can, you know, you can filter about what kind of animals you want, all of the things. And honestly, it's been the best thing that we've ever done. Like, Remy has been the best dog ever. We're still building confidence up with this guy. But it's only like day four. But yeah, definitely look into adopting. And, and like a lot of adoption places too. Like, they do their due diligence. Like, we had to have background checks done, we had to have face, face FaceTime meetings. They wanted.

[B]

We'd have a home tour yeah.

[A]

You know, I had to show my, my home. I had to show them my outside asked me what do I do because I don't have a fenced in yard. And we used hate, we use halo collars and like they wanted to do know all the things because it's important to them too. Like they don't want him to bouncing around from place to place to place. They want these animals to find their forever homes too. And so yeah, it's just, it's. I like it's rewarding, especially when you can build their trust and they realize that they're not going anywhere and that you love them. Then it's like, yeah, even better.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But and also before we end today's episode too, like me and Ty were talking today, like, remember to be kind to people or if you see somebody saying something negative and you don't have to be negative in return, but just stand up for people. No matter what it is or what you see, all the things, be kind and maybe just take, take a moment of this weekend even just to say something kindest to a stranger. I feel like that's very important anyone to someone.

[B]

Yeah. Because it's important.

[A]

It is very important and the world.

[B]

Needs more of it.

[A]

Yeah, we do. We need more kindness and empathy and some empathy and sympathy for sure.

[B]

Especially all the keyboard social media warriors out there.

[A]

True that. But that's all we have this week for you guys and we'll be talking to you guys next week. Remember to, you know, keep liking, rating and reviewing our show. Don't forget our Patreon that drops a week after.

[B]

Yeah. So these are for the people who want to watch.

[A]

Yeah, Patreon is like you can watch the full videos, but right now we drop the Patreon videos a week after the audio drops. Just because we're still trying, you know, we're still trying to. This is still new. We're still trying to build our audio listens and all the things. So. Yeah. But we love you guys. Thanks for your love and support and we'll be talking to you guys next week.

[B]

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