
St. André Bessette, devoted to St. Joseph and emulator of his humility, served as a brother in the Congregation of Holy Cross in Montreal. Serving as a college porter, André welcomed daily visitors and the sick. Dr. Elizabeth Klein shares about the thousands of miracles associated with the intercession of this saint and reminds us about the prevalence of miracles, even today!
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Mary McKeon
Hello. Welcome to Catholic Saints. My name is Mary McKeon, and I am joined with Dr. Elizabeth Klein. Thank you for being with us.
Dr. Elizabeth Klein
Thanks for having me.
Mary McKeon
We're here for another episode of Catholic Saints. Can't get enough. So many saints keep coming. So we keep having more episodes about the wonderful lives of the various saints that we can look to and learn from. So today's episode, we are going to learn about Saint Andre Bessette.
Dr. Elizabeth Klein
Yeah. So Andre Bessette, if you guys listen regularly, watch regularly, you know that most of the saints I do are patristic saints, early church saints. Sometimes I do medieval saints. So this is a modern saint. So this is a little out of my normal forester.
Mary McKeon
I was like, we need a modern saint.
Dr. Elizabeth Klein
Come on. But I do make exceptions for Canadian saints because I'm Canadian. So I have done a couple Canadian saints. And actually, Andre Bessette, I feel like he's, you know, has sometimes people say, like, saints stock you or whatever. Sometimes I feel like I've had a couple encounters with Andre Bessette that I wouldn't have expected. So if you will indulge a little personal anecdote. I was visiting a friend in Montreal before I was Catholic. He wasn't Catholic either. And he had, like, some bike, like, tour planned, of course. Like, I'm terrible at biking. I'm an academic. What am I even doing? So he, like, borrowed this, like, street bike from somebody, and as soon as I got on it, I didn't know where the brakes were, and I, like, smashed the bike. And so we couldn't go on the bike tour. And I was like, well, I'd really rather go to St. Joseph's Oratory. Anyway, so we took the bike to the bike shop, and then we went to St. Joseph's Oratory, which is the beautiful church in Montreal that Andre Bessette raised money for and ultimately helped build. And while we were there, I'd never heard of Andre Bessette, but while we were there, his relics are there, including, like, fragments of his heart. So we had a really interesting conversation about, like, relics and, like, you know, religious objects and things. And of course, I became Catholic. And actually this friend of mine is now, like, an Orthodox monk. So, you know, this is kind of like Andre Besset was there. And then right after I got to Notre Dame was right after Andre Besset's canonization. And Andre Bissett is a Holy Cross brother, and Holy Cross is the order that runs Notre Dame.
Mary McKeon
Notre Dame.
Dr. Elizabeth Klein
And so there was all kinds of stuff about him and the basilica. And so I feel like he's like kind of like cropped up a couple times. So. Happy to talk about Andre Beset.
Mary McKeon
He's been leading you along the path and following you.
Dr. Elizabeth Klein
Yes, exactly. Canadian. Canadian. Canadian saints.
Mary McKeon
So I'm assuming he is also from Montreal to start.
Dr. Elizabeth Klein
Yes. So he's from Montreal, Quebec. So for those of you who don't know, that's the French speaking province of Canada. That's close to the east coast of the United States.
Mary McKeon
Okay, thank you for.
Dr. Elizabeth Klein
Yes. So it's not. It's not like too far from like, I don't know, I don't know the American states that well. Maine.
Mary McKeon
Yes.
Dr. Elizabeth Klein
Massachusetts.
Mary McKeon
It's up north.
Dr. Elizabeth Klein
Yeah. It's close to those. So Andre Pesset is, as I said, a modern state. So his dates are 1845 to 1927. So. Yeah. Really just died about 100 years ago, do you know?
Mary McKeon
Well, actually I wrote it down. He was canonized in 2010.
Dr. Elizabeth Klein
Yes.
Mary McKeon
So decently recent.
Dr. Elizabeth Klein
Yeah. So I think he was beatified in the 70s and then. But then, yeah, not canonized until 2010 by Benedict XVI. So it's kind of interesting. Like while I was researching, I knew a little bit about him, but like, I mean, really in his own life, he was like insanely famous. And so it's interesting that this is like, what, about 100 years ago? It's not actually that far away. And yet, like, I don't think that a lot of people necessarily know it's true.
Mary McKeon
Sort of, they might, like great grandmother would have potentially known his name.
Dr. Elizabeth Klein
Yeah. And so he's actually the first Canadian national to be canonized because Canada didn't become a country until 1867. So there are obviously other French Canadian saints, but not technically when Canada was a country. So he's kind of the first. Yeah. Canonized Canadian. Which is kind of funny to think that was like 2010. But anyway, okay, so Andre Bessette really is famous for being a miracle worker. That's what he's famous. So I read, to prepare for this, I read this like adorable book from 1922 before he died called the Miracle Worker of Mount Royal. So it was like, really interesting. This was mostly cause I didn't actually order a modern book in time, but I'm actually really glad that I read this book while he was still alive because just like in and of itself was kind of like a historical encapsulation, a gem. And so it was really, really interesting to read about. So just give a few. There's not a Lot about, like, his life. I mean, there is about his life, but it's mostly focused on his miracles, which in and of itself is interesting. But we'll come back to that. So a little bit on his biography. So he was one of 12 children, but he was orphaned at the age of nine. His father died in a work accident and his mother d of tuberculosis. So this is, I feel like I was saying to Mary beforehand, this feels like all like the Quebec states, like they're all really poor. They have like these huge families and just like, wow, like all this suffering, but all this holiness at the same time. It's kind of amazing.
Mary McKeon
You have nothing to complain about.
Dr. Elizabeth Klein
Yes, but he was taken in by an aunt and uncle. Okay, but because of, you know, these circumstances, he mostly worked as a young man. He hardly had any education. I don't think he was totally illiterate, but I don't think he could read very well. So he, he didn't, he didn't leave any writings. So there's not a lot about necessarily like his interior life and spirituality. There's a little bit, but. Yes, but that's kind of not. Not what he's known for. So when he was still young, in his, I think his 20s, early 20s, the pastor of his parish recommended him to the Holy Cross Brothers and recognized he kind of had a saintly character. And he reportedly wrote, I'm sending to you, I'm sending you a saint. So recognizing this young man, holiness, and he joined the order, taking final vows two years later. Because he was uneducated and didn't really have a strong background. He really just was a simple person. He was a porter. So he washed the door, he did laundry, he cut hair. He was just one of the sort of lowly cut parents. Cut hair.
Mary McKeon
Oh, cut hair.
Dr. Elizabeth Klein
Not pears. Maybe he cut Paris too. I'm sure he helped in the kitchen, but cut hair. And so the Holy Cross Brothers were in a college for boys. And so that's where he. He was helping in Montreal. He joked that when he first arrived, his superiors showed him the door and he never left. So.
Mary McKeon
Interesting. And I'm sorry, he said he entered pretty young, in his 20s, in his 20s. Okay.
Dr. Elizabeth Klein
And he lived till he was 91. So, okay, so he lived a long and simple, simple life. So how did he get famous then?
Mary McKeon
Was he always a brother? Did he ever become a priest?
Dr. Elizabeth Klein
He never became priest. He's a brother.
Mary McKeon
Yeah, Brother Andre.
Dr. Elizabeth Klein
Brother Andre, Yep. That's how he's known Brother Andre. So he had a great devotion to St. Joseph, which he was famous for. And he would pray for people who were ill, and he would often give them some of the oil from the St. Joseph's Chapel. And this is just a very simple pious act. But apparently this started to work. Miraculous healings. And so even though he was just the porter at this boys school and just sort of prayed for people who came to him, the news spread far and wide that he was a holy man and a miracle worker. And so, so many visitors started to inundate the college that he could no longer stay there. So they had to find a different place for him to meet people. And so he advocated for the building of a Chapel to St. Joseph on the side of Mount Royal. So this started as a small chapel, eventually raised the money to build St. Joseph's Oratory. I don't know if anyone out there has been to St. Joseph's Oratory. It's incredibly beautiful.
Mary McKeon
It's like an incredible pilgrimage.
Dr. Elizabeth Klein
Yeah, it's right up. It is, yeah. And it's still a regular pilgrimage site. There's pilgrim stairs all the way up the side of the mountain. Mm. It's very picturesque. It's a beautiful church. And St Andre's there in the crypt. And so he was then at the oratory for 10 years, where he would read thousands, or not read them, have thousands of letters, read to him, pray for people, send medals and oil, and became famous. Famous for the healing miracles.
Mary McKeon
Yes.
Dr. Elizabeth Klein
The little book I read said during his 10 years at the Oratory, they would receive 250 to 300 favors received.
Mary McKeon
It sounds like lords, almost.
Dr. Elizabeth Klein
Yeah. Yeah. So they estimated something like 30,000 people.
Mary McKeon
Wow.
Dr. Elizabeth Klein
Okay.
Mary McKeon
So to recap, he served as he entered as a brother, or he became a brother of the Holy Cross congregation. He was serving as a porter at this all boys college school, and he had a strong devotion to St. Joseph. Where did he get this oil? What did. Do we know what the oil was?
Dr. Elizabeth Klein
Yeah, I think it was just like blessed oil from their chapel. I don't think it was like. And he would give people medals.
Mary McKeon
Okay. He would greet people at the door. And something, I guess, about him and his presence to receive started to come, and he would bless them with the oil. I'm trying to understand where it all came from.
Dr. Elizabeth Klein
Pray for them, bless the oil, give them a medal, welcome them. That's it.
Mary McKeon
And miracles started to be attributed to him.
Dr. Elizabeth Klein
I mean, he always, of course, said that the miracles were worked by St. Joseph.
Mary McKeon
Yes.
Dr. Elizabeth Klein
But he was, like I said, this little book is called, like, the Miracle man of Mount Royal. And so, yeah, that's what he became known for. I can't, unfortunately, it's like a really bad picture. Oh. I can't show it like on screen because it's so bad. But in this little book from the 20s, there's this amazing picture from the oratory of just like these bins and bins and bins full of crutches and canes that people left after their healings, which is like. I don't know, I was just blown away by this. I was blown away by researching this because so often, I don't know, we just don't actually believe in miracles and we don't think they happen. Or maybe we heard about like one that happened one time to somebody and maybe it happened and maybe it didn't. Or like, that was cool.
Mary McKeon
No, agree.
Dr. Elizabeth Klein
You know, but like, how could it be that 30,000 healing miracles were worked on this continent less than a hundred years ago and I didn't know about it?
Mary McKeon
That's a really good point. It's true. It's shocking.
Dr. Elizabeth Klein
It just seems so wild that, like, there was that many healings. And I mean, this little book is like. It's like the medieval lives that I read. It's just like miracle story after miracle story after miracle story after miracle story. And when you sometimes when you read those old lives, you think like, oh, those ancient people, like, they kind of believed anything or they like made stuff up. Exactly. But this is very modern and it has like the names of people. It has doctor's reports. It has, you know, it's. It's really fascinating.
Mary McKeon
I agree. It is shocking. And in the picture that Dr. Klein is mentioning, there's tons of crutches that people leave behind. So I'm assuming tons of physical healings as well.
Dr. Elizabeth Klein
I think they're almost all physical healings. That is almost all the stories. Yeah.
Mary McKeon
Okay. That's incredible.
Dr. Elizabeth Klein
Yeah. I'm not sure if like the 30,000 are all physical healings, but that's all the stories anyway that were in the book. They were all physical healings.
Mary McKeon
Do you have any hunch why he had such a strong devotion to St. Joseph?
Dr. Elizabeth Klein
I think it was just. Yeah, I think it was just simple piety. Just simple French piety. He's our father. And yeah, so there's a Beautiful statue at St. Joseph's Oratory of Statue that says, itaya Joseph come to Joseph. And I don't know, for me, this saint is very inspiring because it's just so tempting in human life to look for God in Politicians in bishops, in hierarchy and systems. And we think, oh, if only the laws were different, if only the leader were different, if only they would make a better bureaucracy, like, the Church would be in better shape. And I'm not saying that those things aren't true or that, like, it isn't important to have holy bishops, but how often does God work powerfully in the least? You know, it's like. And yet we don't expect it. We don't look for it. We don't. We don't expect God to change his church through saints, but that's always what he does. It's always through the saints. And it's often through crazy people like St. Francis or St. Simeon, who I did earlier, or it's through people of no value in the eyes of the world. I mean, here's a man who had not even enough education to be a priest, who had no parents. No parents, no wealth to his name. I'm sure nothing outstanding other than his piety and his love of God. And we think we can't make a difference in the church, or that doesn't matter. Or we're so frustrated because of X, Y or Z circumstance in the church that we can't control. But over and over and over again, God shows us, like, love me and I will bless you. You know, like, if we have the love of God and we pray, that's how the church has changed. And it's always renewed by his saints. Rarely is it renewed by an administrator. I mean, you have, like, Gregory, the great saint, great administrator. So, yeah, there are exceptions. It's wonderful to have saintly administrators, but that's not usually how it works.
Mary McKeon
That is a really good reminder.
Dr. Elizabeth Klein
It's usually through the lowly that the church is renewed. And it just seems to me that, like, Andre Bessette is such a perfect example of this. And he really reminded people at a time. You know, I think there has been periods, many periods in the Catholic Church where God can seem like a kind of sovereign judge. You can seem distant or maybe even scary. And so people kind of, like, go to Mary because she's, like, easier or something, and you can get a kind of false sense of who God is. And Andre really emphasized that God is so close to us and how powerful is it? Like, healing miracles are very powerful. Jesus did healing miracles to show the love of God and show how God is so close. So there's a couple quotes from Andre about this. He says, when you say to God our Father, he has his ear right next to your lips. There is so little distance between heaven and earth that God always hears us. Nothing but a thin veil separates us from God.
Mary McKeon
Oh, wow, that's beautiful. And it's just like that proximity of God's presence, right?
Dr. Elizabeth Klein
And how ultimately that proximity was shown through Brother Andre through his simple faith and piety. And God worked through him. It's so amazing that God works through his saints because it shows us how much he loves us and wants to include us in his plan and show his goodness to us, not in an abstract way, but in this, like, very concrete way, very concrete of thousands of people experiencing healing through the love of a simple brother. It's just such an inspiring story.
Mary McKeon
I agree. Thank you. That note is beautiful. Even just that reminder that God still gives us miracles today and how more simple we can be, you know, if we have the faith the size of a mustard seed, we can move a mountain. Do we really believe that to be true or do we really believe God in that. That proximity, his desire to be so close to us, wants to demonstrate his great love through healing and miracles. And I was thinking of Mother Teresa as well as another saint of just great simplicity, little education, but would just receive and welcome people as they were, as they, you know, she showed up.
Dr. Elizabeth Klein
And great love and how famous she became and how she changed the world through loving the poor.
Mary McKeon
The simplest action.
Dr. Elizabeth Klein
Yes, right. And this is the same poor little brother Andre just loving poor little French voice. And those around him became sort of a worldwide sensation. A lot of the miracle stories too. They interestingly emphasize the Protestants who came to Brother Andre for healing too. So that's a kind of interesting, I don't know, fact. Of course, all of us aren't going to just like conjure up miracle working as like a witness to the truth of the faith or something. But at the same time, it's ultimately like the love of God which draws people. And arguments are good. I'm a theologian. I like to have arguments. But it's ultimately charity and the love of God and our piety and prayer that's like the strongest witness.
Mary McKeon
No, that's a really good point. And just that hunger of when you meet someone who. Exemplifying this presence of God. I mean, over 30,000 people, you know, came to him. And I'm sure there's even more. Those are just the miracles associated with him flocking to that church that he. They actually had to send him to a bigger church for them to come. People hunger that presence of God. And I was. I was just gonna ment. And when you look up an image of Brother Andre. Cause he's a modern day saint. You can see pictures and photographs of him. Just he looks so kind, like the kindness of his face. I was like, I would go visit him and talk to him especially.
Dr. Elizabeth Klein
Cause a lot of them are like, oh, he's elderly too, because he lives till he's 91, which is really beautiful.
Mary McKeon
And the word got out then we're definitely got out. Yeah, just like a gentle soul as well.
Dr. Elizabeth Klein
So I thought maybe I would just end with just like one of the miracle stories that I read about. So this one was actually the last one in the story. So that they. In the little book I read. So they said it was impossible to not tell this one. So this one was of a little girl in Montreal who was at a convent school and her eye was crushed by an oar. So obviously some like paddling games of the other convent girls got a little rowdy and out of hand at her right eye was crushed. And this one is interesting because her eye was examined by two different doctors. So it has the account of both of the doctors reports from when the accident happened. They both said it was completely incurable. They tried treatments, but they said it was fruitless and that her optic nerve had been damaged and there was like no way she was going to recover. So they send to the oratory and they send him back the oil and the metal. And then they're praying a novena for her and placing the medal on her eye every day for nine days. And on the ninth day during mass, she is able to see the statue of St. Joseph in their chapel and cries out, I can see in the middle of mass. And then they have the doctor's reports from after where they say that her sight has been restored equivalent to the other eye.
Mary McKeon
That's incredible.
Dr. Elizabeth Klein
And I thought this story was really beautiful because sometimes like miracle stories, I don't know, it's just like the facts that it's like, oh, this person was sick. And then they came and they were healed and it was so amazing. But this one provides enough detail that you can like kind of like recreate the psychology of that. I mean, the poor sisters probably felt terrible because she was injured in this like such a grievous way on their watch in their own property. Some other poor girl in the common school is probably the one who did it. And she like can't do her studies, she's in pain, she can't see.
Mary McKeon
Completely alters her life at such a young age as well.
Dr. Elizabeth Klein
And then to have this like, communal experience of praying for her and having her recovery, like witness to so many, like, right in the middle of Mass. It's just, like, very. It's very moving, and it's, like, inspiring for all of us, you know, to pray with confidence for the great things God can do.
Mary McKeon
Amen. Thank you. That is beautiful. So I guess to sum up, how would you Summarize Blessed Andre St. Andre, the way he exemplified the life of Christ?
Dr. Elizabeth Klein
I'd say, yeah, God can do the greatest things to the least. And our Lord chose to become poor and be among the poor. And so we also have to have that same poverty and that same love and humility.
Mary McKeon
Great faith of God's goodness and greatness today. Well, thank you. That was Beautiful reflection on St Andre. Bessette, was there anything else you wanted to add? I think that's it. You can check out some of those images and miracle stories you mentioned.
Dr. Elizabeth Klein
The book was the Miracle man in Montreal. It's. It's out of copyright, so I'm pretty sure you can find it online.
Mary McKeon
Online as well. Great. If you'd like to learn more, please do. Thank you so much for this reflection and thank you for joining. We'll see you next time.
Podcast Summary: Catholic Saints – Episode on St. André Bessette
Introduction
In the January 6, 2025 release of the Augustine Institute's podcast Catholic Saints, host Mary McKeon welcomes listener to a deep dive into the life of St. André Bessette, a revered modern saint of the Catholic Church. Accompanied by Dr. Elizabeth Klein, a scripture scholar, the episode explores the humble beginnings, profound devotion, and miraculous legacy of Brother André, inspiring believers to understand the transformative power of God's love through the lives of His saints.
Biography of St. André Bessette
St. André Bessette, born in 1845 in Montreal, Quebec, was one of twelve children. Tragically orphaned at the age of nine due to his father's death in a work accident and his mother's demise from tuberculosis, André was taken in by his aunt and uncle. Despite his hardships, André led a life marked by simplicity and piety. With limited education and modest literacy, he found his calling early on. In his early twenties, the pastor of his parish recognized his saintly character, declaring, “I’m sending to you a saint” (00:36). This acknowledgment led André to join the Holy Cross Brothers, an order dedicated to education, where he took his final vows two years later.
As Brother André, he held humble roles within the community—washing doors, doing laundry, and cutting hair—embodying the virtues of humility and service. His commitment to these duties lasted throughout his long life, extending until his death in 1927 at the age of 91.
Devotion and Miracle Work
Brother André’s profound devotion to St. Joseph became the cornerstone of his spiritual life. He regularly prayed for the sick and often provided oil from St. Joseph's Chapel as a blessing to those in need. This simple pious act resonated deeply with many, leading to an influx of individuals seeking his prayers. Dr. Klein shares a personal anecdote illustrating Brother André’s influence: “While I was visiting a friend in Montreal before I was Catholic... we went to St. Joseph's Oratory... and I became Catholic” (00:40).
His unwavering faith and the power of his prayers reportedly resulted in millions of healing miracles. According to historical accounts discussed in the episode, during his ten years at St. Joseph's Oratory, Brother André was instrumental in facilitating approximately 30,000 healing miracles (07:33). These miracles were primarily physical healings, as evidenced by the numerous crutches and canes left in the oratory's bins—tangible testimonies of his intercessory power (08:24).
Impact and Legacy
St. André Bessette's miraculous works and humble service led to the construction of the magnificent St. Joseph's Oratory on Mount Royal, a major pilgrimage site in Montreal. His legacy extended beyond the Catholic community, attracting even Protestants seeking healing, which underscores the universal appeal and impact of his faith (14:27).
In 2010, Pope Benedict XVI canonized Brother André, making him the first Canadian national to be canonized (02:44). This recognition highlighted his significant contribution to the faith and his role in inspiring countless individuals worldwide. Dr. Klein emphasizes, “Andre really emphasized that God is so close to us and how powerful it is” (12:19), reflecting how his life and miracles demonstrated the tangible presence of God's love.
Personal Reflections and Insights
Throughout the episode, both Mary McKeon and Dr. Elizabeth Klein reflect on the broader implications of Brother André's life. Dr. Klein remarks, “God can do the greatest things to the least. And our Lord chose to become poor and be among the poor” (18:16), drawing parallels between Brother André and other saints like Mother Teresa who exemplified love and humility through simple, selfless actions.
They discuss the significance of saints like Brother André in renewing the Church from within, rather than relying solely on hierarchical structures. Dr. Klein states, “It's usually through the lowly that the church is renewed” (12:18), highlighting the powerful impact of humble service and unwavering faith in fostering spiritual revival.
A poignant miracle story shared in the episode involved a young girl whose eye was crushed by an oar during a school activity. Despite two doctors deeming her condition incurable, after nine days of prayers and blessings by Brother André, the girl's sight was mysteriously restored (16:01). This story not only exemplifies the miraculous but also emphasizes the communal and heartfelt nature of Brother André’s intercessions.
Conclusion
St. André Bessette's life is a testament to the profound impact of faith, humility, and unwavering devotion. Through his simple yet powerful actions, he demonstrated how God's love can manifest in miraculous ways, touching thousands of lives. As Mary McKeon beautifully summarizes, Brother André embodied “the great faith of God's goodness and greatness today” (18:27). His legacy continues to inspire believers to seek God's presence in everyday acts of kindness and service, reinforcing the enduring truth that holiness can be found in the most unassuming lives.
For those interested in delving deeper into Brother André’s life and miracles, Dr. Klein recommends the book "The Miracle Worker of Mount Royal", available online, which offers an in-depth historical account of his extraordinary contributions (18:41).
Notable Quotes
Dr. Elizabeth Klein (13:12): "When you say to God our Father, he has his ear right next to your lips. There is so little distance between heaven and earth that God always hears us."
Mary McKeon (18:27): "The great faith of God's goodness and greatness today."
Timestamps Overview
Final Thoughts
The episode on St. André Bessette serves as a profound reminder of the enduring power of faith and the extraordinary ways in which saints can influence the lives of the faithful. By exploring Brother André’s humble beginnings, unwavering devotion, and the miraculous legacies he left behind, listeners are encouraged to seek a deeper connection with God and recognize the potential for holiness in their own lives.