Summary of "The Conversion of St. Paul" Podcast Episode
Podcast Information:
- Title: Catholic Saints
- Host/Author: Augustine Institute
- Episode: The Conversion of St. Paul
- Release Date: January 25, 2025
- Participants:
- Ben Akers (A): Executive Director of Formed
- Dr. Jim Prothero (B): Professor at the Augustine Institute Graduate School of Theology
Introduction
The episode begins with Ben Akers welcoming listeners to the podcast and introducing Dr. Jim Prothero. The focus of the discussion is the conversion of St. Paul, celebrated on January 25th in the liturgical calendar. Ben highlights that this feast day commemorates the transformation of Paul from a persecutor of the Church to one of its most fervent apostles.
Ben Akers [00:02]: "We celebrate this feast day of a persecutor of the Church who moves to an apostle of the church."
Understanding St. Paul/Saul
Dr. Prothero delves into the dual names of St. Paul—Saul and Paul—explaining the cultural significance behind his Hebrew and Roman names. He notes that Saul was his Hebrew name, reflecting his Jewish heritage, while Paul was adopted for his interactions within Greek and Roman societies.
Dr. Jim Prothero [01:16]: "Saul would be his Hebrew name... Paul would be his name in Roman and Greek society."
He further elaborates on Paul's background, mentioning his birthplace in Tarsus (modern-day Turkey), his Roman citizenship inherited from his parents, and his comprehensive education, which included strong proficiency in Greek and a deep understanding of Jewish scriptures.
The Pharisee Context
The conversation shifts to Paul's identity as a Pharisee. Dr. Prothero explains that Pharisees were deeply committed to obeying God's laws and scriptures, distinguishing them from other Jewish sects like the Sadducees.
Dr. Jim Prothero [04:21]: "Pharisees are strongly committed to obeying God and God's laws... they're looking forward to God raising the dead."
This strong commitment made Pharisees like Paul especially receptive to the message of Jesus as the Messiah, although Paul's initial understanding conflicted with Jesus' crucifixion, which seemed a direct contradiction to prophecies.
Saul's Persecution of Christians
Ben Akers brings attention to Saul's (Paul's) early life as a persecutor of Christians, highlighting his presence at the stoning of Stephen.
Ben Akers [10:56]: "Saul is right there enabling it and approving it."
Dr. Prothero connects Saul's role in Stephen's martyrdom to his own zeal in persecuting Christians, portraying him as a man deeply entrenched in opposing the early Church.
The Conversion on the Road to Damascus
The pivotal moment of Paul's conversion is thoroughly explored. Dr. Prothero narrates the event where Saul, en route to Damascus to persecute more Christians, experiences a blinding light and a vision of Jesus.
Dr. Jim Prothero [13:44]: "He sees a vision of the Lord Jesus, seated at the right hand of the Father on the clouds of heaven."
Paul's encounter with Jesus leads to his profound transformation—from a staunch Pharisee persecuting Christians to an apostle dedicated to spreading the Gospel. This moment marks the beginning of his mission, despite the impending sufferings and persecutions he would face.
Significance of the Conversion
Ben Akers and Dr. Prothero discuss the theological and spiritual significance of Paul's conversion. They emphasize how Paul's transformation exemplifies God's love for sinners and the power of divine intercession, particularly highlighting St. Stephen's role in praying for his persecutors.
Dr. Jim Prothero [11:40]: "We always need to remember the power of intercession."
The conversion is not only a personal turning point for Paul but also a foundational event for the Christian Church, leading to his extensive contributions to the New Testament and the spread of Christianity.
Paul's Mission and Legacy
Dr. Prothero outlines the extensive ministry of Paul post-conversion, including his missions across the Roman Empire, his interactions with kings and emperors, and the numerous challenges he faced, such as imprisonments and shipwrecks.
Dr. Jim Prothero [16:55]: "For he is a chosen instrument of mine to carry my name before the Gentiles... He is always going to be preaching and proclaiming Jesus."
Paul's writings and teachings became integral to Christian theology, making his conversion a cornerstone event celebrated by the Church.
Conclusion
Ben Akers wraps up the episode by reflecting on the liturgical placement of Paul's conversion feast day right after the celebration of St. Stephen's martyrdom, underscoring the interconnectedness of their stories. He encourages listeners to explore further resources on Formed and highlights the ongoing legacy of St. Paul's contributions to the Church.
Ben Akers [19:26]: "This is why we celebrate his conversion, because this is the moment we celebrate his martyrdom as well."
The episode concludes with a call to support the Mission Circle, enabling the Augustine Institute to continue producing educational content on the lives of Catholic Saints.
This episode offers a comprehensive exploration of St. Paul's conversion, providing listeners with historical context, theological insights, and a deeper appreciation of his enduring legacy within the Catholic Church.