Is It Undiagnosed ADHD or Unresolved Emotional Trauma? Her Shocking Brain Scan Results with Tianna Robillard

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Episode: Is It Undiagnosed ADHD or Unresolved Emotional Trauma? Her Shocking Brain Scan Results with Tianna Robillard
Hosts: Dr. Daniel Amen & Tana Amen
Date: March 23, 2026
Guest: Tianna Robillard

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Episode Overview

This episode features Dr. Daniel Amen conducting a deep-dive consultation with social media personality Tianna Robillard, exploring whether her struggles stem from undiagnosed ADHD or unresolved emotional trauma. The conversation covers Tianna’s personal history, her experiences with trauma, her mental health journey, and the results of her comprehensive brain scan. The episode is filled with practical advice, illuminating discussions about the intersection of emotional experience and brain health, plus actionable tools for managing automatic negative thoughts ("ANTs").

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Tianna's Mental Health History and Presenting Issues

• Tianna shares her recent mental health difficulties, including severe mood swings and a recent diagnosis of ADHD.

  • "I'm experiencing, like, really high highs, really low lows every now and again. I think I've been recently diagnosed with ADHD, and I think the word that was used was severe." (03:07)

• Beginning Adderall treatment: Tianna describes the hesitancy and effects.

  • "It helps. I feel like it quiets my thoughts... it, like, puts them in categories where I can pick which one I want to listen to." (03:55)

• Dr. Amen questions the ADHD diagnosis, observing that Tianna’s symptoms began relatively late.

  • "If you didn't have it growing up, that's not how ADD works. It usually means something else is going on." (04:55)

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2. Trauma Timeline: Family Dynamics & Assault

• Parental divorce as a turning point:

  • "I never had a problem in school. ...It wasn't until about 14, 15 that I realized... why am I not going to class? Why am I not doing homework? ...I was always on it and then randomly just switched one." (04:59)
  • Divorce from her stepdad at age 13/14 coincided with school issues and new emotional and motivational struggles. (05:53)

• Social media comparison stress:

  • Tianna speaks on pressures and anxieties unique to influencer culture, including "comparison stress" and constant feedback, both positive and negative.
    • "I used to be a lot more chill of a human before social media..." (09:05)

• Assault at 16:

  • Tianna recounts being drugged and sexually assaulted by multiple men—a memory she initially suppressed but later pieced together.
    • "I was drugged essentially and was like taken advantage of by four different, three or four different men. And I didn't know in the time that that was happening... it all pieced together for me almost two years later." (15:00)

• Emotional disconnection from trauma:

  • "I don't feel emotionally affected because I just like numb it maybe." (16:08)
  • Dr. Amen highlights the way the body can "keep the score" (16:11) and trauma may emerge in physical and psychological symptoms even when not consciously processed.

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3. Processing Negative Thinking (ANTs)

• “Automatic Negative Thoughts” (ANTs) as a central theme:

  • Dr. Amen emphasizes the discipline of not believing every thought—especially destructive or irrational ones.
    • "You need a little ant spray... the thoughts are worse. So the ant infestation is worse, the last 10 days of your cycle, if you’ve not slept, if you’ve not eaten and you have low blood sugar, then the ants come." (13:09)

• Practical exercises introduced:

  • Writing down thoughts, then challenging their reality:
    1. Is it true?
    2. Is it absolutely true?
    3. How does it make me feel?
    4. How would I feel without the thought?
    5. What evidence supports the opposite thought? (31:56–36:19)
    • "Just because you have a thought has nothing to do with whether or not it's true." (37:26)

• Memorable moment: Dr. Amen lightheartedly shares a bizarre intrusive thought about his wife, modeling how our brains can generate absurd stories.

  • "I had the thought one day, well, if I killed her, [the dog] would like me more. I'm not going to kill her... it's just a stupid thought." (28:35)

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4. Eating Disorder & Substance Use

• Orthorexia and Eating Patterns:

  • Tianna discusses her history with orthorexia and restrictive eating, especially as a cheerleader.
    • "It started off being like, I really need to be healthy... then it turned into, like, oh, I can't have one bite of a cookie, otherwise I need to go, like, run a mile." (23:22)
  • Dr. Amen urges balance, not perfection.

• Substances — Caffeine, Adderall, THC, Nicotine:

  • Dr. Amen warns about caffeine and Adderall combination, and expresses strong anti-THC/nicotine sentiment for Tianna's brain type.
    • "Caffeine and Adderall compete for the same receptor sites... If you really want the Adderall to be as effective, I would do less." (25:06)
    • "THC in some people, literally, they lose their mind... If you go into those thoughts, process them rather than avoid." (26:12–26:49)

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5. The Brain Scan Revealed: SPECT Findings

• Dr. Amen reviews Tianna’s SPECT scan

  • "You have a stunningly beautiful brain... But you see how it got hurt here... from a past concussion, mood instability, irritability, memory and temper problems on that spot." (46:58–50:03)
  • Evidence of past traumatic brain injury, likely from her cheerleading years as a base (45:31–45:53)

• Impact of trauma and injury on function

  • "Your emotional brain is up, and it's in this diamond pattern... This is past trauma... My job is to fix the other one and calm down the diamond pattern." (47:00–48:50)

• Hope for improvement:

  • "It's totally mendable, but we need to mend it... Four months, six months, your brain's gonna be better." (47:16–47:29)

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6. Tools and Treatment Recommendations

• Therapeutic strategies:

  • Dr. Amen suggests more targeted EMDR and a specific form of emotion-focused psychotherapy (ISTDP) for unresolved rage and blocked emotion. (48:50)
  • Encourages use of "ant-killing" thought-challenge techniques and their dedicated app, Brain Fit Life 5.0. (54:40)

• Lifestyle and supplement advice:

  • Reduce caffeine, focus on quality sleep.
  • Consider saffron-based supplements for mood (Happy Saffron), especially promising for PMS symptoms. (50:45, 53:37)
  • Boost omega-3 intake; pay attention to hormone cycles, and avoid brain-toxic exposures.

• Reframe success & self-worth:

  • Dr. Amen recommends the book The Gap and the Gain and shifting perspective from "I'll be successful when..." to "I know I'm being successful when..." (42:09–44:09)
  • "I want you to have brain envy—you got to care about it... Avoid things that hurt it, do things that help it." (55:14–55:48)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On trauma and its hidden effects:

  • Dr. Amen: “Your body kept the score, but your mind didn’t know about it.” (17:52)

• On challenging negative thoughts:

  • Dr. Amen: “Just because you have a thought has nothing to do with whether or not it’s true.” (37:26)

• On the core of self-doubt:

  • Dr. Amen: “The basic thought... ‘I’m not good enough’... If you’re not good enough, nobody ever will be.” (41:32 & 41:52)

• On hope and healing:

  • Dr. Amen: “I want you to be hopeful. The cool thing is, it’s fixable.” (47:21)

• On the discipline of a healthy mind:

  • Dr. Amen: “Have the discipline to manage your mind because you want to be great. And that requires a mind that tells you the truth.” (34:12)

• On the impact of social media:

  • Dr. Amen: “The dopamine destroys dopamine neurons because it’s always hitting them. Boom, boom, boom, boom.” (09:47)

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Important Timestamps

• Tianna’s relationship and infidelity trauma: 00:00–01:00, 11:47–12:36
• Beginnings of ADHD diagnosis and medication experience: 03:07–03:55
• Dr. Amen’s challenge of the ADHD narrative: 04:55–05:24
• Discussion of school decline and family disruption: 05:24–05:57
• Revealing the assault trauma: 14:54–16:25
• Discussion about ANTs and thought-challenging: 13:09–36:19
• Orthorexia and eating disorder details: 23:01–23:54
• Brain scan review: 45:05–50:46
• Therapeutic recommendations (EMDR, ISTDP): 48:50–49:19
• Discussion of self-worth and the “gap vs. gain”: 42:09–44:13
• Tools for managing brain health & summary recommendations: 55:14–59:00

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Key Takeaways

• A late-onset "ADHD" presentation might mask deeper emotional trauma or brain injury.
• Emotional traumas, even if rationalized or numbed, can strongly affect brain health and daily functioning.
• Automatic negative thoughts (ANTs) are not facts—systematically challenging them can dramatically improve mental health.
• SPECT imaging can provide unique insights and tailor both pharmacologic and psychotherapeutic interventions.
• Social media pressure and comparison stress exacerbate negative thinking and emotional instability.
• Healing is possible—with the right tools, mindset, and support, the brain (and life) can improve substantially.

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Final Thoughts

This episode provides a rare inside look at a psychiatrist's real-world problem-solving using brain imaging, trauma history, and practical psychological tools, all delivered with warmth and humor. Tianna’s openness and Dr. Amen’s expertise make this a profoundly hopeful and actionable episode for anyone struggling with anxiety, negative thoughts, ADHD diagnoses, and the lingering impact of trauma.

Transcript

[A]

I was in a relationship for two and a half years. He proposed and then I found out a month later that he had been cheating on me. It almost felt like it like broke my brain because I didn't realize the stuff that I learned people actually do. It's affecting me even more now than it did after. I just believe things that aren't real. It's scary.

[B]

Teiana Robillard is a content creator. TikTok star and social media personality Dr.

[A]

Amon and Tiana discuss hidden traumas and

[B]

how to process them to heal the brain. Have the discipline to manage your mind because you want to be great. And that requires a mind that tells you the truth. Whenever you feel sad, mad, nervous or out of control, I want you to write out what you're thinking.

[A]

The feelings that I feel right now, I never used to feel growing up. I never was like off kilter in like any way. I was very balanced as a child and then turned 16, 14, 15, 16. And then boom.

[B]

You were assaulted when you were 16. Can you talk about it?

[A]

Yeah, I.

[B]

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[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And I'm so excited. For the last couple of years you've been following me and we've been following you and reached out and wondered, should we look at your brain?

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Why did you agree to say yes?

[A]

Well, I, I reached out and said, can you look at my brain? Because we don't know what's going on in there. There's, you know, I'm experiencing, like, really high highs, really low lows every now and again. I think I've been recently diagnosed with adhd, and I think the word that was used was severe. So I actually don't, which. Who knows. So I just started medication for my first time at the beginning of this year.

[B]

And did it work?

[A]

I think it's working. I am one of those people. I'm, like, scared to rely on medication. So I think that's why I've been so not wanting to take it for my whole life. But it's working. Yeah. I'm on, like, a low dose. I take, like, 5 milligrams.

[B]

Of what?

[A]

Of Adderall. I think the off brand one. Okay. So, yeah. And it helps. I feel like it quiets my thoughts. Like, I feel like there's so many thoughts all the time, and it, like, puts them in categories where I can, like, pick which one I want to listen to. You know what I mean? You're probably like, no, that's not how it works.

[B]

I love that. Well, when stimulants work, it activates your frontal lobes, and your frontal lobes actually help you organize.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Things. When your frontal lobes are sleepy, then it's like you don't have a break on your brain. But the question I have, because I know the ADD stuff came up. So I've looked at your scans, I've read your history. I have all sorts of notes. And it sounds like now you have add, but it doesn't sound like you had it growing up. And that's not how ADD works.

[A]

That is what I was.

[B]

So it usually means something else is going on.

[A]

Yeah. I ex. I fully accept that. That truth. Because growing up, I was locked in. Like, I never had a problem in school. I never had a problem. It wasn't until about 14, 15 that I realized, oh, no, like, why am I not going to class? Why am I not doing homework? It was never my thing. I was always on it and then randomly just switched one.

[B]

So what happened?

[A]

The only thing I can think of is, like, possible home trauma. Like, I didn't have my. My dad and my mom divorced when I was 5. And then I got a stepdad from, like, 6 to, like, 13, 14. And that was about the time they had their divorce. So he, like, raised me alongside my dad, too, from afar, but. And so I think that divorce was hard.

[B]

And you were how old when they got divorced?

[A]

I think 13, 14. Yeah.

[B]

Okay. So about the time things begin to

[A]

change, then it's also tough because it's also the time I enter high school with, like, so many other schools and people. So I don't know if that played a part in it too. I don't know.

[B]

You know, sometimes when people get diagnosed later is they were so bright that school came so easy, and when they had to start working.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

They didn't have the right focus or the right habits. And all of a sudden they're like, terrible add. But it's not like I did my homework and now I'm not. I went to school and now I'm not. That usually is either a head injury or emotional trauma.

[A]

Yeah, it felt like emotional almost because I didn't have the. It was like I almost didn't have the drive to like, get up and go to school or. Or do my homework after school.

[B]

But you had it before, so. Ads typical ADD is. It's inherited. It comes from either your mom or dad. You can see it clearly on one side or sometimes both of your family. You have it from the time you're a little girl. But girls tend not to be diagnosed like boys. They're diagnosed like one in five.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Because boys bring a lot of negative attention to themselves. Misbehaving, the hyperactivity, the impulsivity, the restlessness. And people go, you, something is not right with you. But girls, not so much.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And still there's gender bias, I think, that people still sort of expect, oh, he's gonna have to take care of her family someday. We have to get him help.

[A]

Right.

[B]

She's really cute. We hope she marries somebody nice. Which is not rational. Because women, if anything, do way more than men. Because women are primary caretakers for the house. They're primary caretakers for the children. And they're still, you know, at least here in California, working outside the house. Nine times out of ten.

[A]

Yep.

[B]

So when I read your history, excellent student until high school and then won

[A]

like an award for my whole county type of thing. Like, it was like the one award to one student in the whole county and I, like, won that.

[B]

And that's not a small county where you're from?

[A]

No. Wacom County. No, it was like a really big deal for me. And then. And that was in eighth grade. And then I left middle school, went to high school and everything. Shit hit the fan. Excuse my. It all went bad.

[B]

It's very visual.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But now executive challenges. Focus, distractibility, organization can be hard.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Poor memory, forgetfulness, periods of low moods can be self critical. And I think anybody on social media has comparison stress.

[A]

It's tough because I'm now in my third year of social media, doing it as a full time job and it's tough to know my stress levels and the anxiety that I feel. It's tough to know if it's from work. Like, I know it's from work, but what degree? So I don't. And I don't have the answer. Like, I used to be a lot more chill of a human before social media and now there's comparison. There's like, you don't get an off moment because if you chill on the couch, like, okay, well I could be editing something, I could be making something, I could be creating, you know, doing research. It's just, it's tough. I feel like it is.

[B]

I mean there's a court case going right now. Does it create mental illness? And which we're, you know, I think as a psychiatrist, I'm also a child psychiatrist. It absolutely creates mental illness. The scrolling. The dopamine destroys dopamine neurons because it's, it's always hitting them. Boom, boom, boom, boom. And developing discipline around it is so important. So you see it as a job, not as you.

[A]

Yes. Yeah.

[B]

And then of course there's the haters. I have plenty of them.

[A]

Me too.

[B]

But some of the haters aren't real.

[A]

Oh, it's.

[B]

They're actually these bot farms.

[A]

I just view them all as bots. And then I'm good to go. I'm like, oh, that's a robot, it's fine.

[B]

Yeah, no, I would like pop up and do an Instagram live. And I hate Dr. Amen. Why?

[A]

I know, I know. I'm like, all we're doing is spreading some, some joy and knowledge. Okay. We don't need, we don't need.

[B]

Right. But joy and knowledge doesn't increase engagement like hate and controversy. So do so the algorithms element.

[A]

Well, to that point. Not that we care about my status online, but I'll make it quick. My, I came up online pretty quick from a like, bad relationship, like a public, like scandal. And so there, there's that whole thing of trying to keep relevancy in a sense when I'm in a healthy, happy time of my life and like grow on social media or grow in my job when there's no scandal. Like there's no, there's nothing keeping people there except for like, I'm just trying to like bring entertainment to my platform. But you're right, that doesn't get the growth or the views.

[B]

So what happened with the scandal?

[A]

I was in a relationship for two and a half years and he proposed. And then I found out a month later that every, like, he had been cheating on me for.

[B]

That was actually one of the traumas.

[A]

Yeah, it. It broke. It almost felt like it, like, broke my brain because I didn't realize the stuff that I learned could, like, people actually do. Like, I didn't realize. And now. Now I'm in, like, a happy relationship and it's really. It's affecting me even more now probably than it did the hurt did after, because I'm, like, almost getting. I just believe things that aren't real. I start. I can fully make stories in my head that aren't there and aren't real, and I can make anyone believe them. It's scary.

[B]

And has anybody taught you how to not believe every stupid thing you think?

[A]

Yeah, I'm in, like, therapy and I have a psych. But yeah, I do. I, like, can sit back and realize, okay, the thought that I'm thinking is insane. Like, step back. The chances of that being, like, real or logical or slim. So I have to just, like, trust myself. But it's. It's tough. It makes me feel like.

[B]

See, with all the thoughts, I actually like it when my patients write them down.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And then assess them.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So I call them ants. Automatic negative thoughts. The thoughts that come into your mind automatically and ruin you. It's like an infestation.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

And so you need a little ant spray. And. And the thoughts are worse. So the ant infestation is worse. The last 10 days of your cycle, if you've not slept, if you've not eaten and you have low blood sugar, then the ants come. And so every day we win. Have a good day. Or we learn. And if you just curious and not attached to the noise, it's. It's just basic training for our minds.

[A]

And you can, like, teach you. It's like repetition. Like, you can, like. Okay.

[B]

Because just like. So your sweetheart was basketball player.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Well, he didn't learn how to shoot free throws by doing one.

[A]

Right.

[B]

He did them thousands of times. And even in his last year playing, he practices them.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Over and over. We have to develop that same skill.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

For our mind. Like, I still have crazy thoughts.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I just don't believe any of them. Yeah.

[A]

That's the key. It feels like when a thought comes in, I, like, have to believe it. It's the weirdest thing. Like, yesterday I had a whole hard mental day of, like, where I'm positioned in like my career and like my, the industry. I can just. I'm doing great, but in my head I'm like, oh, I'm a complete, you know, failure. And then I believe it and then it's like spiraling.

[B]

So we're gonna talk about ants. I love talking about ants so much. So comparison stress.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You were assaulted when you were 16?

[A]

I was, yes.

[B]

Can you talk about it?

[A]

Yeah, I. It's. I don't know if I was gonna ask you about this because I actually don't know if I'm like, actually affected by it. Like, I. I don't know if it's subconscious. I don't really think about it in my day to day. But it was a situation that happened where I was drugged essentially and was like taken advantage of by four different, three or four different men. And I didn't know in the time that that was happening until almost like pictures of what, like, in my head of what happened, like, came like two years later and it all pieced together for me. Whereas in the moment I just. I don't know if I just didn't know what was going on type of thing. And I ended up meeting these guys, I guess, two years later again. And they were like. And I had introduced myself, like, I didn't even know them. I just didn't even, like, I just didn't remember anything. It was like. I think I just blocked it out. I don't know. But I. But I. I don't know if I'm emotionally affected. I don't feel emotionally affected because I just like numb it maybe.

[B]

But did the school problem start before that?

[A]

I would, I would say. I would say so it was kind of like it. I was kind of just didn't have like a male figure in my life for those four years, so I just kind of.

[B]

And tell me about being drugged. What was this situation?

[A]

I was still, at this point, I was 16. I was scared of drinking still. Like, I didn't want to. Like, I had to. I just got my license, I just got my car. I was like one of those people. I didn't drink and drive. My mom freaked me out about it. So I was like going to this party essentially, or like this little get together and had like one drink and then was gonna leave. And they were like, just take this last. Just take one more shot with us. One more shot with us. I was like, oh my gosh. Okay. So I take it and then it. The was history after that. I have no idea. I just have glimpses of.

[B]

Then you Woke up where?

[A]

From what I can remember, I woke up there in the morning, and I just, like, got out of there and every. I think people were asleep still, and I just.

[B]

Was your mom freaked out because she hadn't heard from you or

[A]

Maybe a little bit. I don't. I was always doing something. I was, like, a good kid, but I was always out doing something with friends. Like, she. I was the last child of three, so my.

[B]

Yeah, we worry way more about the first one than the last one.

[A]

She just, like, let me kind of go. She didn't really.

[B]

I'm one of seven.

[A]

Oh, my gosh.

[B]

My older sister, she's in trouble for everything. Like, wore a bikini, like, smoked, whatever. And by the time Joanne came along, the seventh one, they didn't care.

[A]

Yeah, right, right.

[B]

My older sisters, I think she's bitter about them. So, yes, there's trauma, and it sounds like your body kept the score, but your mind didn't know about it.

[A]

Yeah, that makes sense. Yes.

[B]

Yeah. In the therapy you've had, how long have you gone for therapy?

[A]

I went for two years and then took, like, a year break and then just started up again two weeks ago.

[B]

What do you guys do in therapy?

[A]

We are not in the same state anymore, so we just. I have, like, a Zoom call every week, but I have done. What is it? EMDR or whatever. I don't know if it was very intensive. It was me holding, like, two vibrating nuggets and just kind of saying how I feel about things as it was going on, I think.

[B]

Yeah. No, that doesn't sound like it works

[A]

or like I think I was getting asked questions. I was trying to. I don't know. I. I forget. But it was. I don't know. It's just. It feels good to talk.

[B]

How many times did you do that?

[A]

I think two.

[B]

Yeah. You didn't do it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

What I do when I do it is I take each five years of your life. I want you to write down what awesome things happen.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And what awful things happened.

[A]

That seems like.

[B]

Then go after the awful ones. But I always want you to balance it with. My life has both. Every life has both.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Right. Because if you just talk about the problems, you feel like a problem.

[A]

Yep.

[B]

But EMDR is you actually. There's a whole process around it, but you bring that stuff up in the eye movement, or it's alternate hemisphere stimulation. That's what you were doing by holding the vibrating things. When you bring up the trauma, it helps both sides of your brain process it, and then it calms it down?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And did you ever do it around the rape?

[A]

I don't think so.

[B]

Because consciously you're not aware of it, but your body's completely aware of it.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. I feel like it's just one of those things, like. Oh, it happens, like, whatever. Like. But I don't feel it. But I feel it.

[B]

I wonder if. If the feelings could come up, where would they go?

[A]

I don't know. Maybe my. Like, my stomach or something. I don't know. Like, where would I feel them?

[B]

Where would they go? I mean. Yes. Where would you feel it initially, but then if it could come up out of your body.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Where would they go Away? I don't know.

[A]

I'm not sure.

[B]

And if you saw those four guys again,

[A]

How would I feel?

[B]

No. Oh, where would the thoughts go? Or where would the feelings go?

[A]

Yes. Yes. I don't know.

[B]

Yeah. Because I would imagine there's some rage there.

[A]

It's. No, it's so weird.

[B]

So someone drugged you.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Violated you? Shared you.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

There's no rage.

[A]

I feel like there should be. Right. And I just. I don't even. I don't. I don't even know if I let myself even get there.

[B]

I mean, what would happen if you did?

[A]

I don't think anything.

[B]

My experience is it would free you from some of this.

[A]

Yeah. Really? From the. All the.

[B]

Yeah. But when you repress it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It comes out other ways. It comes out in a sad day. It comes out in a panic attack. It comes out in headaches. It come out in stomach aches.

[A]

Because I mean it. Yeah. Because the things I'm feeling, I've never used to feel growing up.

[B]

I'm sorry.

[A]

Cause, yeah, it would make sense. The feelings that I feel right now, I never used to feel growing up. I never was, like, off kilter in, like, any way. I was very balanced as a child. And then, boom, turned 16, 14, 15, 16. And then.

[B]

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[A]

Yeah, tell me about that same same time period. Enter high school. I was in competitive cheerleading, which you're obviously surrounded by a bunch of females all the time, and you're starting high school and you're trying to be whatever

[B]

what was your position?

[A]

Base.

[B]

Your base?

[A]

Yes.

[B]

And did you have any concussions?

[A]

I don't think so. Not that I remember. I'm definitely been hit in the head. I don't think I had a concussion, though. But, yeah, I think it was just this feeling of, like, oh, I need to be. It started off being like, I really need to be healthy, to, like, be where I want. And then you start eating healthy, and then it turned into like a. Oh, I can't have one bite of a cookie, otherwise I need to go, like, run a mile. It, like, turned into that.

[B]

So it turned into an eating disorder.

[A]

Yes. Which I was told.

[B]

I mean, I was admiring it because, you know, I always say, you know, 30% of my work is just getting you to eat right.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

If you eat right, your brain works better.

[A]

Yeah. And

[B]

I have a saying. I only want you to love food that loves you back.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Right. You've been in a bad relationship, so you know what that's like. Now you have a good relationship.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

I want you to have the same relationship with food.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

But not over the top.

[A]

Right? Yeah.

[B]

Right. And I think people go 80, 20, and I'm like, no, you don't like yourself that much. Maybe 95. 5 would be better. Lots of caffeine.

[A]

Oh, my gosh. Yeah. Yep.

[B]

So I'd try to limit that. Probably a hundred a day. 100 milligrams a day.

[A]

Oh, my gosh. That's like. That's like a latte, right?

[B]

It's like a latte.

[A]

Oh, no. And not a triple shot, like my normal. That's like a double.

[B]

And especially not with Adderall.

[A]

I know.

[B]

Because it decreases the effectiveness of Adderall. So caffeine and Adderall compete for the same receptor sites in the brain? I mean, not completely, but yes. They're competing for dopamine.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And you're. If you really want the Adderall to be as effective, I think I would do less.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And I make something called Peak Energy that's actually made with a caffeine metabolite called Paraxanthine. I think it's. It's smoother, and it doesn't create the problems that caffeine creates.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And then nicotine.

[A]

No, I don't do well with it. I tried.

[B]

Okay, so you're not using nicotine gum.

[A]

No, I. It was. It's probably maybe once a month type of thing.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

And it's like a 2 milligram one.

[B]

Yeah. It's a big online thing now. A lot of influence People say nicotine's awesome.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And it's a lie.

[A]

It's like, I wanted to know about that. And you don't like thc?

[B]

No, I hate thc.

[A]

Okay. So if I'm taking like a. Like a. I'm taking these things called early birds once a night, and they're like less than 3 milligrams or whatever, but a lot of CBD.

[B]

CBD is okay.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

THC in some people, literally, they lose their mind.

[A]

Me. When I do a lot. But I also can't.

[B]

So why do a little.

[A]

I can't fall asleep. I'm like, think of my worst, deepest, darkest thoughts before bed, to the point where I'm like, I'm scared to go to sleep. So if I just take that to relax, then I. Maybe I can fall asleep faster. That's my theory.

[B]

What if you took each of those deepest, darkest thoughts and took them captive?

[A]

How do you do that?

[B]

Click, don't believe them.

[A]

I know.

[B]

Or write them down. I want you never to be afraid of your thoughts or your feelings, but to go into them rather than away from them. There's a cool trick called Havening. Have you ever heard of it?

[A]

No.

[B]

It's super cool. And there's a website called havening.org. it's a very simple EMDR ISH treatment where you go into the bad thought. Oh, my God, my life is going to end. My life is gonna end. Do this or this.

[A]

I like this. What about this one?

[B]

Not that.

[A]

Never that.

[B]

But, I mean, I'm a fan of tapping. There's an app, the tapping solution. People like it. But no, Havening is this. Or it's just this, where you go into the bad thought for 20 or 30 seconds and then you keep doing it while you take your brain to Disneyland or, like, genuinely to the mountains. Or you start directing your brain to something you love.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

While you're doing this, you slow your breathing. It'll calm you down and put you to sleep. But if you're like, oh, my God, I have this thought. It's like, I had the thought. This is funny. But it's. My brain's very creative.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

And we have a German shepherd, and I love him, but he doesn't like me that much.

[A]

Really?

[B]

He loves my wife. It's, like, ridiculous. He loves my wife. She comes home, he just, like, loses his mind. I come home, it's like, hey, dude. But if she's not at home, yeah. He comes and hangs out with me. So I had the thought one day, well, if I killed her. He would like me more. I'm not going to kill her right now. I've said it to everybody.

[A]

Yeah, but it's just on record.

[B]

It's just a stupid thought. Your brain creates stories.

[A]

It's such a. But they're so logical sometimes. Like, they're so. I have, like, nine reasons to back up why that thought is gonna be real.

[B]

So give me your worst thought.

[A]

Well, yesterday I just thought about how I'm not good at what I do.

[B]

You're not what? You're not good at what I do.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Look at these. Tell me which ones you have.

[A]

All was. All of nothing.

[B]

I mean, they're all great or all

[A]

awful, but that is what I.

[B]

That's just what you said.

[A]

Sometimes there's something like, I am literally the best thing this. That's graced this earth. And then other days, I'm like, oh, I'm literally. Why am I here? What is this all for?

[B]

I have that when the world is gray.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So, yeah. Just saying.

[A]

Less than.

[B]

Yep. Of course. Because you're on social media.

[A]

Yes. What's. Just the bad.

[B]

Where, like, just 10 things.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

10 things happen. Eight of them were good. You're focused on the two things that

[A]

I love so much that are so loyal. And I only. The only comments that run in my brain are that are the bad ones. You know, you probably. You actually don't know. Probably. You've probably trained yourself not to do that. What's guilt? Beating me, Beating myself.

[B]

Thinking in words like should, must, ought, have to, trying to motivate your behavior with guilt. And the secret is, whenever you think you should do something, ask yourself, do I want to do it, or does it fit my goals to do it? And if you don't want to do it and it doesn't fit your goals to do it, don't do it.

[A]

Don't do it. That's great labeling. Yes. Fortune telling. Yeah.

[B]

It runs in your. It runs your brain.

[A]

Mind reading. I can. I feel like I can read everyone's brain in the room.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

No, I can't.

[B]

No, you can't.

[A]

That's not true.

[B]

I have 25 years of education, and I'm a psychiatrist, and I can't read anybody's brain.

[A]

You know whose brain. You know who has to suffer from this the most is Adrian right over there. I'm like, oh, he made one wrong move. I. Like, I know exactly what he's thinking. Poor guy. No, I don't. And then I. And then I assign that feeling to him that all of it, all of it. All of it.

[B]

You are gonna get so much better.

[A]

Thank you. I believe that.

[B]

So here's the exercise. Five questions, okay? If you just remember, memorize, tattoo, don't tattoo. But five questions, and the first one is, is it true? So if we write down your thought, which was, I'm not good at what I do. Right. So that's your belief. I'm not good at what I do, which is all or nothing. That's the end. Okay. And Carlos did our show, and that was his thought. I'll get Alzheimer's like my dad, so I'm not good at what I do. First question, is that true?

[A]

No.

[B]

So if one is. No. 2 is automatically no. 2 is. Is it absolutely true?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But three is, how does that thought make you feel? I'm not good at what I do.

[A]

It makes me feel. Yeah. Anxious and scared and small. And small and ineffective. Yep.

[B]

Powerless.

[A]

Yep.

[B]

Critical.

[A]

Envious. Maybe a little bit, too. Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

How's that thought make you act?

[A]

Freaking. Not good. Like, grasping scarcity mode. Just. I'm not happy, you know, living. I'm not living in my truth.

[B]

And so the outcome of that thought is suffering.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So a thought that you know is a lie, your brain attaches to it. So the fourth question is, well, how would you feel if you didn't have the thought?

[A]

Yeah. Like, free to just create and be.

[B]

You'd be happy.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And how would you act? Dude. Create.

[A]

Yep. Motivated.

[B]

And the outcome of not having the thought? Happiness.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

My favorite question. So one is, is it true? So whenever you feel sad, mad, nervous, or out of control, I want you to write out what you're thinking.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Have the discipline to manage your mind because you want to be great.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And that requires a mind that tells you the truth. So this isn't positive thinking.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Accurate thinking with a positive spin.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And your brain could be more positive. We'll talk about that.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So is it true? Write it out. Identify what kind of. And is it true? Is it absolutely true? How does the thought make me feel? And then I like to add, how does it make you act? What's the outcome? How would I feel if I didn't have the thought? What that teaches you. It's your thoughts that make you suffer.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

And if you can, in someone that has a great brain, it's the programming, it's not the hardware.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Does that make sense?

[A]

And I totally feel. That's, like, really validating. It's the programming that's very validating.

[B]

You are going to get so much Better. And so how does the thought make me feel? How would I feel if I didn't have the thought? The fifth question, which I dearly love, is take the original thought. I'm not good at what I do. Turn it to the opposite. I am good at what I do. And is there any evidence that the opposite of the thought that's torturing you is, in fact, true?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Tell me.

[A]

I have. I'm good. I have people that want to.

[B]

How many followers do you have?

[A]

2.3 million.

[B]

Million.

[A]

I have that going for me like

[B]

the size of Seattle.

[A]

Yeah. Whoa, whoa. Yeah.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

So that. Yep. That I would think that I do. I'm doing okay.

[B]

That people value you. They want to hear what you're up to.

[A]

Oh, that's. Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

So. Or if you focus on that I am good at what I do, what happens?

[A]

I feel like I can do more if you want. If I want.

[B]

See the other one. You have to do more.

[A]

Yeah. Right. Exactly.

[B]

And you don't sleep.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So which one makes you more open, more loving, more your real self, thinking

[A]

that what I do, I'm good at.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Because that's where the evidence is.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

If you did that exercise that you and I just did a hundred times on your worst thoughts, you would stop having bad thoughts.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Because you would take them captive.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Just because you have a thought has nothing to do with whether or not it's true.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Whether or not it's useful, whether or not you believe it. I'm not killing my wife for the damn dog.

[A]

Right.

[B]

It's just a stupid thought.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

That's not true.

[A]

Yeah. I feel like right now they topple on top of each other. So I can have like.

[B]

Yeah. No. I want you to write out your worst thoughts.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And then rather than be afraid of them, so you have to drug the ants into submission. Right. I mean, that's what THC does. That's what alcohol does. It drugs them so you can go to sleep.

[A]

Right.

[B]

You just eliminate them. You get a little anteater that's patrolling your mind.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Just looking for the truth.

[A]

What? I feel like this is like a common thing. Like what? Just for.

[B]

It's so common.

[A]

It's like our thoughts eat us all alive. Like, that doesn't seem.

[B]

Because we live in a society of undisciplined thinkers. That part in part because of the news.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Because it's so biased one way or the other.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And they're doing it on purpose. Because if the peasants are fighting with each other, they don't see what's happening.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Social media, the negative news. And there's nowhere in school. I was 28 years old, in my psychiatric residency, and I'm just sitting in the back of the class, and a professor said, you have to teach your patients not to believe every stupid thing they think.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And I'm like. But I believe every stupid thing I think.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

And that's where suffering it's Is.

[A]

Yeah. Yep.

[B]

I believe you don't have to suffer. And it's not positive thinking. It's not, like, irrational.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Like the orthorexia. There's a part of it I loved. It's. But then if I'm not perfect, I'm no good at all.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

And that's terrible.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And I would love for you to write down those hundred bad thoughts.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And send them to me.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Because I love killing ants.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It's like one of my favorite things to do. Like, is that true, really? You know that's true. The only people who should be predicting the worst are contract lawyers. So your lawyer should be protecting you. And that. The contract predicts what could go wrong.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And then you need to stop.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Because negativity is bad.

[A]

Like, why? People just get so.

[B]

But if we go back to the unconscious assault.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

That drove legions of ants, and you didn't even know where they came from because you blocked it. It's like, oh, I don't think that affects me. When internally the rage is probably murderous and you blocked it.

[A]

Yeah. Yep.

[B]

Because I was sort of hoping when I said, if the feelings could come out, where would they go? Like, chop them up. And I find when patients can get it out.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

They calm down because they're not holding

[A]

the disloyalty that I've had in my life, too. I feel like. Just makes you believe. Yeah. Like, the thought of, like, not being good enough or, like, not being good at what I do or it all just is validated. I feel like, no, it's not. But it just makes you feel like that. But I can't control. Other people do. I can only control.

[B]

And do you have that thought, I'm not good enough?

[A]

I think that's, like, the basis of, like, everything wrong with me.

[B]

The basic thought. I had Justin Bieber. That was his thought. I had Miley Cyrus. That was her thought. And I looked at Miley, and I've been her doctor for, like, 15 years and love her. And I'm like, if you're not good enough, nobody ever will be.

[A]

Right. Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

And then she got the grammar numbers

[A]

and the, the numbers and the awards and whatever. It doesn't even matter. It's like, it's at the core. Like. No, I keep saying, like, well, what new milestone do I need to get to, like, feel, like, adequate?

[B]

There's this great book. You should read it. It's called the Gap in the Game. It will help you so much with this concept. The gap is looking at what you don't have, measuring your self worth going forward.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

The game is looking at how far you've come, measuring things backwards. So we look at your 14 year old self that was cut in class and not doing her homework and.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Sort of a mess.

[A]

Yep.

[B]

Right.

[A]

Yep.

[B]

To where you are now. Holy smokes.

[A]

I know.

[B]

She would be so proud of you.

[A]

She would.

[B]

Don't you think?

[A]

Yes.

[B]

The gap is I'll be successful when. And this is just my life. I'll be successful when I'm 18 or when I publish a book and. Or when I have a New York Times bestseller and I have 12.

[A]

You said I have 12.

[B]

And I'm like, oh, well, now I need a number one New York Times bestseller.

[A]

Right.

[B]

And I have one of those. No, that's misery.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

This is suffering. When I have to do that in order to be a worthy human.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

The better question, the question I want you to ask is not this one. I'll be successful when you're already wildly successful. This is the hedonic treadmill. Chronic stress. This is the question. I know I'm being successful when I know I'm being successful. When I'm connected to my wife, my kids, my grandkids, I know I'm being successful. I'm taking care of my body. I know I'm being successful when I'm doing purposeful work.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like in this moment, I'm being successful.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Because I'm being useful.

[A]

I feel like taking time to, like, actually do the work, to like write things down and like, actually believe and read or, like, think to do this. That's what I'm missing. And like, being lazy. I'm being undisciplined with my thoughts. I'm not taking. Attack yourself.

[B]

Just go.

[A]

Exactly what I do.

[B]

Just go. No, I'm gonna get the book. I'm gonna read it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And I'm gonna follow through.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Because I love myself.

[A]

Yeah. Right.

[B]

All right, now let's talk about your skin. We do a study called spect. And SPECT looks at blood flow and activity. It looks at how your brain works and it basically shows us Three things. Good activity. Too little or too much.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And then my job is to balance it here. We're looking underneath the brain. So the top is the front part, bottom is the back. These are your temporal lobes. Should just be full, even, and symmetrical. And this guy is going to be very important because one of the hits you got to your head left an impression. And that left side. Yeah.

[A]

This side. Oh, my gosh. Oh, wow.

[B]

And so right away, when I saw good student not, I'm like, did she have a concussion? And you don't need to lose consciousness to have a bad brain injury.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And if you're base, the flyers are hitting you in the head.

[A]

Yep.

[B]

Right. It's just part of. How do you learn to do it right? By doing it wrong.

[A]

Totally.

[B]

And then having good coaching. I have a granddaughter that's in cheerleading and all star a back about her. She's like, going to the Anime Convention center, like, doing.

[A]

I did 11 years and.

[B]

No, she's seven.

[A]

Yeah. That's when I started. Seven.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Well, I'm anxious.

[A]

Yes, I know, I know. All right, wait, so you looked at your head trauma?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Okay. Wow.

[B]

And then here, this shows us the active parts. Blue is average. Red is the top 8%. White is. I'm sorry. Red is the top 15%. White is the top 8%. And it should be here. And we're going to see a different pattern for you. So if we look at this, you have a stunningly beautiful brand. I would. And it's not a line, I promise. But you see how it got hurt here.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And then here in the back.

[A]

What the heck?

[B]

At some point, you got whacked here, and it bounced against the opposite side and it hurt here. Now, it's totally mendable, but we need to mend it. So THC is not going to be helpful.

[A]

Right.

[B]

So we have to fix this. And the cool thing is it's fixable.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

That if you do the things I say. Four months, six months. Your brain's gonna be better.

[A]

Yeah. Oh, my gosh.

[B]

So I want you to be hopeful.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Okay. Now here, if we go back to what we want it to look like.

[A]

Oh, no. Okay.

[B]

And we want it to look, this is busy. Everything else is quiet. Your cerebellum's fine. Your emotional brain is up, and it's in this diamond pattern. So worry, anxiety, feel it in your body. This is past trauma. So I published a monster study on post traumatic stress disorder, childhood trauma, and let the comment down.

[A]

The middle is the emotional part.

[B]

Okay, well, they all Sort of work together. So mood, worry, anxiety, feel it in your body. And so my job is to calm it down. So my job is to fix the other one and calm down the diamond pattern.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And I would like you to talk to your therapist about doing more EMDR and see if she knows a treatment called istdp. Intensive Short Term Dynamic Psychotherapy. It's a rage therapy and it's for people who block their emotions, but then they come out in these other ways. We're gonna get so much better.

[A]

What are we. What are we talking for brain health? Are we talking, like. Are we talking, like, if there's a scale, am I up on the better half? Am I up on the better half?

[B]

You've been rated your whole life.

[A]

I was really expecting to see holes. I'm not even joking. Which we do. Which we actually.

[B]

So if. If we didn't have this.

[A]

Yep.

[B]

You're like a 10.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Your brain is stunningly beautiful, but it got her.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So just to explain this a little bit more, I think from a past concussion, mood instability, irritability, memory and temper

[A]

problems on that spot.

[B]

Yeah. You're right handed.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah, dude. Well, what the heck?

[B]

But you see how if your brain isn't as healthy as it could be, that could negatively impact your relationship and potentially you could lose the love of your life. And nobody. No marital therapists look at people's brains, which I believe is insane.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Because how would you know if you don't?

[A]

Look, that's another one of my biggest fears.

[B]

So I. I mean, you talk to your psychiatrist.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

If I was your doctor, I'd give you happy saffron. It's.

[A]

I got some. I ordered off Tik Tok shop off of your link.

[B]

So I want you to do three a day.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And I begin to kill the caffeine. Oh, God. Peak energy. Try it. See if you think it's a good enough replacement.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

In 35 randomized controlled trials. Saffron, the dose I have in happy Saffron is found to be equally effective to antidepressants, so.

[A]

So quit the Wellbutrin.

[B]

Talk to your doctor. If I was your doctor, based on your scan, I don't think Wellbutrin would be my favorite choice. And I like Wellbutrin. And you just have that over focused worry part that sometimes. And we scanned you on Wellbutrin.

[A]

I know I didn't take it right, but. Yes, you're right. You're right, you're right.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

I do loop. I do. Sometimes Adderall is Not good for me because I get in a thought and I loop that thought.

[B]

The Adderall. I think I would kill. You didn't have it today, right?

[A]

No.

[B]

Yeah. I'm not a fan of it. I'm a huge fan of you being really serious about being an ant killer.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

About you developing this internal that needs to be workout.

[A]

A daily workout. Honestly.

[B]

Yeah. But, you know, if you do it a hundred times, you don't have to do it every day. But I mean, periodically I still do it. It's like, is that true?

[A]

So a bad thought comes into your head right away, you know, to just go.

[B]

I just go, is that true? What I do immediately is I flip it. My wife never listens to me. My wife does listen to me. Oh, yeah. She listens to me.

[A]

Take notes.

[B]

It's so good for communication. Because you just don't believe.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Everything that your brain creates.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And consciousness. Many people believe the brain is a receiver. And you're getting all the noise from the universe.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And it might even be your trauma. It might be your mom's trauma or your dad's trauma. You know, there's a great book called. It Didn't Start with you about generational trauma. I just want you not to believe every stupid thing you think.

[A]

Okay. What do you. Real quick, what do you think about pmdd?

[B]

I think it's real. I think it ruins some people's lives. And we have sometimes can write that down. PMS relief.

[A]

I think I have it.

[B]

So let's try that along with the tapi. Saffron has been shown to be really helpful with pms. PMS or. Yeah. PMS relief. We get some of the best testimonials for so Happy Saffron three a day and PMS relief the whole month.

[A]

Okay. And the really high highs I can feel. And the really low lows I can feel. I can feel when it's about to dip. Like, I'm like, okay, here it comes. And I'm in the like. And that's from that side being not well.

[B]

And part of it is the emotional trauma from the past.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And the past concussion and the hormone shifts.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And so we just have to deal with each of them.

[A]

This was fun. I'm not crazy. I'm gonna be okay. Would you look at that?

[B]

You'll be better than ever. And then share it. We also have a cool app called brain fit life 5.0. It's got hypnosis, audios. It's got a whole kill the ants section to it. It's got a 30 day happiness challenge. You guys should do it together. So, like, five to seven minutes a day for 30 days increases happiness by 32%.

[A]

Oh, my gosh.

[B]

And I teach you all the things that you and I have talked about today. There's like a whole day on an Kelly and a whole day on positivity bias training.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

The big idea is if you want to keep your brain healthy or rescue it, we have to prevent or treat the 11 major risk factors that steal your mind. And Bright minds is the acronym. SO B is for blood flow. Low blood flow is the number one brain imaging predictor of add, depression, Alzheimer's disease. And so I want you to love your brain. And brain health is three things. Brain envy, you got to care about it. Now, I guarantee you, since you saw your brain and you saw it was beautiful, but could be better, you're going to take much better care of it. Right. So brain envy, got to care. Avoid things that hurt it, do things that help it. Just got to know the list.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And so anything that lowers blood flow, caffeine, nicotine, marijuana. Not exercising.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It's bad for your brain. And so exercise and then some of the supplements I give you will help boost blood flow. Retirement and aging. I mean, both of you are so young, at least compared to me. But always be learning new things. And so when you go, oh, you're not good. A better reframe. How can I be better?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Every day you win or you learn. And if you have that mindset, you can stay in the moment rather than in the future with fear or the past with regret. Win or learn. Inflammation. Do you take good care of your teeth?

[A]

Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

You have beautiful teeth.

[A]

Thank you.

[B]

But flossing is a brain exercise.

[A]

Yeah, I really believe that one. Yep.

[B]

Are you taking an omega 3 fatty acid?

[A]

No, I. Well, I'm taking a. Just ritual prenatal. I'm not planning to get pregnant, but I've just been taking that, and I think that has Omega 3s in it.

[B]

But no, I'm gonna give you a really great multiple vitamin. It'll be a great prenatal because it'll get your brain ready to have babies.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

A brain boost that works in six different ways. And that will help here.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And an omega 3 fatty acid. So we'll do that. What runs in your family?

[A]

I don't know. I don't. I think. I don't think anything crazy, really.

[B]

Okay. Whatever runs in your family. Just want to be serious about prevention. Like, I have obesity and heart disease in My family not overweight, and I don't have heart disease because I'm on a prevention program.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So this is just about being serious. You want to protect your head. Are you doing anything now that potentially could hurt it?

[A]

No, no. I've always been really scared about head stuff.

[B]

Good. It's a sign of intelligent life. Toxins, so you want to avoid exposure. How much are you drinking?

[A]

Probably at this rate, twice a month. We don't, like, have, like, a casual drink at night or anything. We'll just have one or two, like, big nights a month. Okay.

[B]

So. So, like, one or two a month is not a big deal.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Your ovaries. You are born with all of the eggs you will ever have.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And whatever happens to you turns on or off certain genes.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

That increase or decrease the vulnerability in your babies. And so whenever you're making a decision, is this good for my baby or bad for it?

[A]

I. Absolutely. Yeah. Yep, yep, Yep. And I'm 30. I'm turning 30, so, I mean, I.

[B]

I almost remember it. I got it.

[A]

I got to check on my eggs.

[B]

Maybe 84. Where was I? I was in Washington, D.C. i was in my training program. Almost remembered it. Do you know this app, Think Dirty?

[A]

No. Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes. For household stuff.

[B]

Allows you to scan your personal products.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And that matters whether it's dishwasher stuff or hand soap. There's a company I like called Ecos.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Earth Friendly Products that make the Ecos brand. It's a Walmart.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It's just healthy stuff. Read the labels of anything that goes in your body or on your body. Sana's huge fan of saunas. So. Yeah, that's part of it. And then mental health. Kill the ants. So helpful for you. You'll teach this if you start teaching people to not believe every stupid thing. It'll help calm your nervous system.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Your nervous system's on high alert.

[A]

It is. Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

That's what happened to you when you were a teenager. I'm convinced.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

All right. So I love. Oh, I love this diagram. When people come to see me, They have good days and bad days, but they're not the same. And then I give you a program. You get better. I've been doing this for 45 years, and I love it. But nobody just gets better. They're better and then not better than. Not better. Not so much. We always want to learn from the downtime. So rather than. This damn stuff doesn't work. It's. What did I have to eat today?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Did I believe every stupid thing I thought.

[A]

Right.

[B]

How's Adrian doing? Where am I at in my cycle? I just always want you to be the student.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Because soon you'll have good days and bad days. They're just not anything like this.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Makes sense.

[A]

Questions? No. That's exciting.

[B]

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[A]

Thank you for this. Taking time out of your week for this. This is great.

[B]

Different than you expected, or what did you expect?

[A]

I think this is what I. Yeah, this is exact. I. I loved being able to see the. Where I'm. My brain, my blood's going and like, why. This is perfect. This is everything I needed. SA.