EP 43 | bedside chat with scrubhacks

Summary

Podcast Summary: CHEERS! with Avery Woods Episode: EP 43 | Bedside Chat with ScrubHacks
Release Date: September 9, 2024

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Introduction and Guest Background

In Episode 43 of CHEERS! with Avery Woods, host Avery Woods welcomes Lindsay, also known as ScrubHacks, a prominent creator within the nursing community on social media. The episode focuses on unveiling Lindsay's life beyond her online persona, delving into her childhood, nursing career, struggles with body image, and entrepreneurial ventures.

Childhood and Early Life

Lindsay shares her upbringing in Sand Springs, Tulsa, Oklahoma, highlighting the challenges of growing up in a small town. She met her husband in college, marking the beginning of a decade-long marriage. Reflecting on her early life, Lindsay mentions, “[00:44] B: Yeah. I grew up in Tulsa, Oklahoma...”

Nursing Career and Challenges

Both Lindsay and her husband are ICU nurses specializing in adult intensive care units. Lindsay candidly discusses her journey into nursing, initially viewing it as a "plan B" due to her indecision with majors. “[02:29] B: ... taking care of people is the easy part. It's all the other stuff we have to deal with as care workers.”

She recounts her early career experiences, including traveling as a nurse during the onset of COVID-19, which she does not recommend: “[02:55] B: ... started traveling shortly after. I was only a year old nurse. I don't recommend doing that.”

Transition to Social Media

Lindsay explains her motivation to pivot to social media, driven by past struggles with body image and a desire to create lighthearted content amidst the demanding nature of nursing. “[08:17] B: ... people don't know. They just think you made a video one day and it took off.”

Avery adds her own perspective on transitioning from nursing content to a broader lifestyle focus, emphasizing the audience's appreciation for her authentic self: “[09:26] A: ... people are gonna like me or follow me if I leave nursing.”

Dealing with Haters and Online Negativity

The discussion turns to the challenges of handling negativity on social media. Lindsay shares her evolving perspective, ultimately viewing haters as unconstructive and irrelevant to her self-worth: “[23:35] B: I'm getting better at what my opinion is because... haters are stupid.”

Avery echoes this sentiment, stressing the importance of self-worth and ignoring baseless criticism: “[25:06] A: ... use it as constructive criticism or change what other people want to hear or see. You'll never please everyone.”

Relocating to Arizona and RV Life

Lindsay and her husband recount their nomadic lifestyle, including living in an RV for nearly four years while moving across states. The episode highlights the challenges of maintaining relationships and finding a stable home base: “[13:12] B: ... living in RV almost four years...”

They ultimately settled in Arizona, seeking a balance between climate and community, while both transition to per diem nursing roles for greater flexibility: “[14:29] A: Yep. ... looking at more per diem positions.”

Entrepreneurial Ventures: Scrubster App

Lindsay introduces Scrubster, a platform developed by her husband to allow healthcare workers to rate and review hospitals and agencies. This initiative aims to provide a transparent space for professionals to share their experiences: “[15:35] B: ... Scrubster is a platform for healthcare workers to rate and review their workplaces.”

The app recently secured investment, propelling their entrepreneurial efforts forward: “[15:35] B: ... just signed with some investors, which is really exciting.”

Body Positivity and Plastic Surgery Journey

A significant portion of the conversation revolves around Lindsay's personal struggles with body image stemming from her modeling past. She shares a harrowing experience with multiple breast surgeries that initially went wrong: “[40:43] B: ... got my first set of boobs. I went to the local plastic surgeon...”

Despite setbacks, Lindsay emphasizes the importance of advocating for oneself in medical procedures and ultimately finding satisfaction after corrective surgeries: “[47:05] A: ... I think it's important to hear stories like that because it just shows you have to advocate for yourself.”

Personal Life and Decision Not to Have Kids

Lindsay discusses her and her husband's choice not to have children, influenced by their upbringing in a strict religious environment and practical considerations related to their demanding careers: “[27:20] B: ... we sat down, I was like, I am scared to tell you this, but I don't think I want kids.”

They express confidence in their decision, highlighting the importance of personal fulfillment and mental well-being over societal expectations: “[31:19] A: ... Kids don't deserve that. [31:50] B: ... we had no reason that we wanted one.”

Conclusion and Final Thoughts

Avery and Lindsay wrap up the episode by reinforcing the value of authenticity, self-confidence, and pursuing one's passions beyond predefined roles. They encourage listeners to embrace their multifaceted identities and prioritize personal happiness over external judgments: “[39:34] A: 100. And that's, like, what I was talking about earlier was I thought people only were interested in me because of my nursing career.”

Lindsay promotes her Scrubster app and shares her social media handles, inviting listeners to connect and support their ventures: “[48:27] B: My app is Scrubster...”

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Notable Quotes:

• Avery Woods [02:29]: “I don’t, I still am not super sold on it, to be honest. I tell everyone it’s my plan B.”
• Lindsay (B) [08:29]: “I was online for at least a decade trying different things because modeling wasn’t working out the way I wanted.”
• Lindsay (B) [23:35]: “Haters are stupid. They don't take enough time. They don’t have brain power to use.”
• Avery Woods [25:06]: “If you leave nursing, you’re almost like exiled.”
• Lindsay (B) [31:19]: “If I had children at that age, I probably would have traumatized my kids.”
• Avery Woods [39:34]: “I thought people only were interested in me because of my nursing career.”

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This episode of CHEERS! with Avery Woods offers an intimate look into Lindsay's multifaceted life, balancing her nursing career, social media presence, personal struggles, and entrepreneurial aspirations. Listeners gain valuable insights into the resilience required to navigate both the medical field and the complexities of online fame.

Transcript

[A]

Hi, welcome to Cheers. I'm your host, Avery Woods. The following episode contains sensitive topics of eating disorders that could potentially trigger emotional distress or discomfort. Please listen with caution. Remember, it's okay to take a break or skip the episode if needed. Hi, guys. Welcome back to the Cheers podcast. I'm your host, Avery woods, and today we have Lindsay, AKA Scrub Hacks with me. And you know what's so funny is we followed each other forever and now she lives in Arizona. So it's been so fun, like hanging out outside of social media environment.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But obviously Lindsay is a nurse. If you are in the nursing community, she is a huge creator in the nursing world on social media and she's. Your humor is so funny. Thanks. And I texted you because I wanted you on the podcast so bad. And we. I just met Nurse John. Yeah, obviously. We just came back from la. And you're friends with him? Yes, Love him. He's hilarious. Style icon, by the way.

[B]

Oh.

[A]

Literally, when he pulled up, I said, I'm underdressed.

[B]

No, every time. Every time. I'm like, oh, so we're supposed to dress up for this?

[A]

Yeah, no, he always. I love him.

[B]

Absolutely.

[A]

Okay, so obviously we're friends and I know a lot about you, but I want to know some more deets and then obviously have people get to know, like, the real side of you outside of social media, because I feel like that was kind of my goal with this podcast is when I talk to people, I kind of humanize them a little bit because I feel like that's lost a lot in social media. And we were just talking about hate before, you know, we turn the mics on and how rough it can be. But tell me about, like, where you grew up, your childhood, and then we'll kind of get into nursing and all that.

[B]

I'm an open book, so that's something I like to start with because a lot of people get worried about any topics, but I feel like the more open we are, the better. I don't know. Life can be society. Totally. My name is Lindsay. I grew up in Tulsa, Oklahoma, if you're familiar with Oklahoma. Sand Springs is the actual town I grew up in. Smallish town compared to others, but, um, lived there my whole life. Met my husband in college. We'll be married 10 years this year. I always like to say I was a child bride, but I wasn't. Yeah, right.

[A]

That's how I feel, too.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. Because you got married. Yeah, yeah. Lived my whole life there. Wasn't really sure what I wanted to do with My life went back and forth in majors for almost seven years. Finally decided I wanted to be a nurse. Mostly because of the schedule. I was like, you know what? Totally. I. I don't. I still am not super sold on it, to be honest. I tell everyone it's my plan B. It's never been my plan A. But taking care of people is the easy part. It's all the other we have to deal with as care workers.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But decided to go into nursing school. Did that. And we started traveling shortly after. I was only a year old nurse. I don't recommend doing that. You should wait.

[A]

Damn.

[B]

But we started traveling and never looked back.

[A]

And your husband's a nurse too?

[B]

My husband's a nurse too.

[A]

And what specialties are you guys both in?

[B]

We're both icu.

[A]

Okay. Adult icu.

[B]

Adult.

[A]

Yeah. And your husband's also a gem.

[B]

Met him.

[A]

He's a sweetheart. And you know what's funny is I think the first time I ever found your content was when I was doing a lot of my, like, nursing heavy content and pick you. You get tagged all the time. Be like, oh, my God, you guys are twins.

[B]

No, literally, that's how I found your.

[A]

Because I. We had the septum rings.

[B]

Dark long hair.

[A]

Dark long hair. We both orange scrubs. Obviously we're both working in the hospital and people like, wait, are you scrub hacks? And I'm like, no, but who? And I found your content. And I was like, oh, my God, this is so funny. But didn't you. You wanted to do like acting or something, right?

[B]

I did. Yes.

[A]

Okay. I remember you telling me about that.

[B]

Yes. So I started modeling when I was 14.

[A]

Oh, yeah. Lindsay makes me feel like a little, Little teeny girl, which I love because I'm five nine, but I'm taller. Yeah, you are. And I don't think people realize that you have like the model body.

[B]

Thank you. The modeling industry would say otherwise, but thank you. My friends say stuff like that. So I'm like, I started modeling when I was 14, went to New York, got signed by agencies, did the whole nine yards. What I wanted to do from that point on was be a model. Maybe acting, but at the time it was definitely modeling.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Went to New York when I was 19 to get signed by a different agency. And that's kind of what really me up mentally, if I'm being honest. I mean, other things in my childhood as well, but that's on top of it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Was people just. Just picking you apart all day long, Literally sitting you next to Someone they want you to look like. I can never have this person's bone structure being told, my ribs are too wide. Maybe you should shave them. As a 19 year old girl.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[B]

I was. I'm 6ft tall, 135 pounds at the time. Had an agency I was super stoked about. They said, if you can lose 30 pounds in a month, we'll sign you.

[A]

So six feet tall, 100 pounds is.

[B]

100 pounds is what they wanted. I mean, they call us hangers on the Runway for a reason.

[A]

My 3 year old is 43 pounds exactly. And she's this tall.

[B]

Exactly. So you want me to be double that?

[A]

Yeah. That's crazy.

[B]

And it. It was awful. So left. That left New York with an eating disorder for several years. Really. Up until I met my husband who caught me binging and purging and was like, whoa. But he wasn't my husband. We were just standing at the time, but he was like, what's going on? Like, what's happening? And that was the very first time I, like, admitted to somebody, oh, I've. I've got a problem, you know?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But wanted to model even after that. After I got healthier. But it never worked out for me the way I planned it to, which was either high fashion. But once again, I was just never good enough in their eyes for my body. So I started pivoting into maybe acting. I like the entertainment world. Let's try that. So I did. I've done a few things with that. And that's actually why I picked nursing. Because of the schedule it provided. I didn't want to be a waitress anymore. Auditioning for gigs. I wanted something solid that I could fall back on and. Yeah.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So how old were you when you went to nursing school?

[B]

I want to say like 26. 25. 26.

[A]

So a little bit later than a little bit later.

[B]

Non traditional.

[A]

Okay. Which I can't even say that because I remember when I graduated nursing school, I graduated with some of my class that was in their 50s.

[B]

Well, wait, you did the math. This year is five years. I'm 30. I'm 31.

[A]

31. You graduated for five years. So 20. Well, 26. You graduated.

[B]

How did it. Yeah.

[A]

Graduated 26. Okay. Yeah. Because I always tell people it doesn't matter how old you are. It's never too late to start a career you wanted to do. And I went to nursing school with so many moms that were stay at home moms.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And they always put their kids first. Then once their kids Left, they were like, now I got to do what I want to do. Which I loved that. So what was your first nursing job outside of college?

[B]

It was in the ICU in a hot major hospital in Tulsa, Oklahoma, as a new grad. As a new grad, I applied for their new grad position. They only had a few. I promised my weekends away for the rest of my life so that I could be on day shift. Yeah, that's pretty unheard of as well. But also sick of working nights for me. Night shift vibes are definitely my thing, but the way my mental health is set up, there's just no way I can't do it.

[A]

No, I can't either.

[B]

So I started right off in the icu, medical icu, Worked there for a year, then applied for a travel gig right as Covid started, which again, I wouldn't recommend because people jump on my ass all the time for that. I'm like, I don't recommend it. It's just what I did.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And it worked out. Wow. Yeah.

[A]

And then one year after that, you.

[B]

Traveled one year after that.

[A]

Was that during COVID Yeah, the P. Covid.

[B]

Right. At Covet.

[A]

And where did you go?

[B]

Los Angeles. USC specifically, which is a teaching hospital, which was great for me because that you're still considered like a new grad. Yeah, don't do it.

[A]

So what prompted you to start social media in the like nursing realm?

[B]

Great question. I've actually been on social media for. I feel like most content creators I talk to, they've been on social media forever. Forever. Yeah.

[A]

People just don't know.

[B]

People don't know. They just think. You made a video one day and it took off.

[A]

Totally.

[B]

I've been online for at least a decade trying different things because modeling wasn't working out the way I wanted. I was sick of people trying to control my body. And I was like, you know what, I'm going to put myself out there and see if I can kind of form this path on my own. Yeah, I tried with a fitness account at one point. Was still having an eating disorder, which was not great. But, you know, didn't take off. Maybe for reason alone. I tried like a lifestyle account and wasn't really working out how I wanted. And honestly, it was the end of like, it was the end of 2021. I was like, you know what? I'm so sick of this job already. As a two year old, three year old nurse, I want to make some lighthearted content that's just fun, has no, like, rules with it. No pressure. I did. And first video took off. I was like, oh, what? That's kind of fun. So I tried it again. Tried it again. And for me, nursing is kind of the realm that made sense on social media. I guess it's what took off.

[A]

Yeah. And that's kind of how I was too. And that's what took me so long to have the confidence to transition outside of nursing content. And because I knew it would do well all the time. And I was like, people aren't gonna like me or follow me if. If I leave nursing.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But then when my lifestyle stuff started doing better, I was like, okay, maybe they just like me for me.

[B]

Exactly.

[A]

Which was like a big confidence boost. But I think you do a great job at your comedy side of it. And that's what I was telling nurse John too is I think, you know, since COVID the medical field is just so dark.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Right now. And for good reason. I mean, obviously we worked through the pandemic and saw that side of it, you know, where I my entire pregnancy with Stevie working in the ICU when it was covet. I had the same N95 my entire pregnancy.

[B]

Wow. That's my little brown paper bag that you keep at work.

[A]

Yep. With my name on it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And it's, you know, there's just a lot of things that people don't see online, especially if they don't work in the medical field. And so it just can get really dark and hard for a lot of nurses. And especially new, subtle results.

[B]

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[B]

See for [e-mail] the grads that are.

[A]

Leaving, like, in less than a year, they're leaving bedside because they're like, what the fuck is this? I didn't sign up for this. And so I just love you and John and so many other nursing creators. Just bring that humor to it. And that's so important in this field.

[B]

I think so too.

[A]

Thank you.

[B]

I. I do know it used to bother me a lot when I first started making content because it was going out more so to the general public. I didn't know how Tik Tok worked for one. I hated Tik Tok at first. Didn't want to do it too. I was like, tik Tok, dude.

[A]

Do you know what's funny is when I first started posting videos, this was like, when it went from, like, musically to Tik Tok. And so it was pushing so many videos to people. Every video I made was doing so well. But I would post like once every three months because I couldn't figure out how to fucking edit on there. I couldn't figure out how to, like, do the timer for sound. I couldn't figure out how to, like, stop it. I had no idea how to use it. And it was way more complicated then. And so I was like this. I'm not even worrying about it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

If I would have stayed consistent, I could be the Next fucking Charlie D'Amelio.

[B]

You could have.

[A]

But it was so hard. And we worked full time nurses. It was impossible.

[B]

Exactly. And also, like, don't go down that route. I should have, because maybe you weren't there mentally. Something could have happened.

[A]

Like, I also. I'm like, my life is so. For, like, I feel so blessed. I wouldn't. I have no regrets at all.

[B]

Right.

[A]

Like, happen the way it needed to happen. Exactly. You know? Exactly. I also don't have enough rhythm to be Charlie demolio.

[B]

No, me neither.

[A]

I can't shake my.

[B]

I love to pretend to dance, but I can't.

[A]

I'm white, I got junk in the trunk, but I can't shake it. So that's my issue. Okay, so you guys came here to Arizona. Can you talk me through, like, how that decision was made?

[B]

Yeah. So we left Oklahoma, went immediately to California. Realized we probably should have went to California last for nursing, specifically. Just because it's the land of princess nurses.

[A]

Absolutely.

[B]

That is how nurses should be treated, is how California nurses are treated. And they don't get it until they're out of there.

[A]

Oh, that's where I Started my nursing career and then I came to Arizona. I said, the fuck you said.

[B]

What's happening here going on? Exactly.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So we were there for quite like back and forth for two or three years. We went to several other states and then we were in rv. I don't know if I said that already. We were living in RV almost four years and I was like, crazy. Done this. Like, it was fun. I would do it again for the reason we did it.

[A]

But you didn't have a home base at all.

[B]

We have one in Arkansas. Okay. But I don't consider Arkansas home. So it felt very out of place.

[A]

Anyway, so your RV was your home?

[B]

My RV was my home. And we're both really tall, so. And we had two dogs. It was like a 41 foot RV, which is pretty big, but it still felt small. Like if me and him are like irritated with each other, there's nowhere for me to go. Yeah, you know what, this is annoying.

[A]

Like I can only go on so many walks.

[B]

Exactly, exactly.

[A]

Holy shit.

[B]

So I was pretty over it. We're trying to find kind of our home base. We've come through Arizona almost every time. We've made the trip back home and we've loved Arizona. The problem is it was in the fall and winter. And that's great.

[A]

Yep.

[B]

But we needed to know, can we handle these summers?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Because when I told you maybe Ashley, some other people that we were moving here, they were like, why are you moving here in the summer?

[A]

Yeah, there's.

[B]

It's a reason. We need to make sure we can stand the heat. Yeah.

[A]

Honestly, that was smart of you though.

[B]

That's why I'm saying.

[A]

Because people don't do that.

[B]

Exactly.

[A]

People don't. They'll buy their house in like the fall and the summer rolls around and they're like, what did I do? I didn't sign up for this.

[B]

Exactly, exactly. So that's really why we're here. We're kind of wanting a home base. I'm not doing full time nursing anymore. I'm looking at more per diem positions and so is my husband. So I don't know about Arizona nursing, but I'm about to find out. So we'll see.

[A]

So per diem, are you doing like a couple shifts a month? Is that your plan?

[B]

Yeah, it's like perfect and I can pick up as much as needed.

[A]

Yeah, you self schedule.

[B]

Exactly.

[A]

Which is the best?

[B]

That's the best. That's what I wanted. Just for other things that we're working on.

[A]

So what are you Trying to focus more on social media.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Or am I allowed to talk about the appointment?

[B]

Absolutely.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Because I was going to say, I know you guys have your app, which. Talk about that, because I think it's so cool.

[B]

Thank you. We just signed with some investors, which is really exciting. So we're, like, taking the next step forward. That's badass. Yeah. So, like, three years ago, my husband came up with this concept. It's called Scrubster right now, but it might change. That's why I'm kind of quiet about it, because I'm like, I think we're changing the name, but Scrubster. Scrub. Str. It's pretty much a rate, my professor. But for healthcare workers to go and rate and review the hospitals and agencies they've worked with.

[A]

Oh, that's so smart.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So smart.

[B]

The moment you put it on Facebook with your name attached to it, you're blacklisted 100%, so. And they. Hospitals like to claim they don't do that, but they do.

[A]

They fucking do.

[B]

They fucking do, so.

[A]

Absolutely.

[B]

We wanted a better way for healthcare workers to kind of speak their mind, both objectively and subjectively, so we made that up. Um, so that's what we're both working on. Definitely. My husband's way more involved.

[A]

Yeah, he's, like, very techy. Yeah.

[B]

Yeah, he's a nerd, you know? Um, so he's into that. And then I'm working more on social media. Um, again, modeling and acting was always kind of my vision for life, but it wasn't working out. And social media is. And it's kind of the new modeling and acting.

[A]

A hundred percent is.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So, like, one of my friends, Olivia. Hi, Liv. Love you. Um, she's. She, like, blew up on TikTok and I. I took a trip with her. With free people.

[B]

Oh. Yeah.

[A]

And so we were hanging out, and she was talking about how, like, right away, you know, she was able to sign with Victoria's Secret for modeling. And then she did. Fuck. Oh, Si.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Illustrated. But she just was an extra on it ends with us.

[B]

Oh, that's amazing.

[A]

And I was like, see, that's what's crazy. People don't realize, like, think about what's it. Liza Koshy. Am I saying that right? Yeah, she just was in that Netflix movie. Like, people don't understand, you know, they kind of, like, laugh and mock what social media is. But I'll be transparent when I say I haven't been subscribed to cable TV in eight years. Dave and I talked about that. And I'm like, I don't watch commercials. I pay for the premium of Hulu and Amazon and fucking Netflix and all these things. So I don't see commercials. I don't see ads. I see it all on my phone when I'm scrolling.

[B]

Exactly.

[A]

I see movie ads and what the next thing is to buy. Or who's this next superstar? They are all coming from social media. Think about too, like singers now. All these singers who are blowing up, like Sabrina Carpenter and Vincent Someone. Yes. Like, they're all. They obviously are so Tate McCray, like, so talented and we're already successful. But their stuff is boosted because of viewers on social media. And that's why when people, you know, give us such a hard time about it being a job, I'm like, no, you don't understand. That's what it is now.

[B]

It is a job.

[A]

It absolutely is a job.

[B]

Exactly. Is it harder than nursing? No.

[A]

No, never.

[B]

That would be the most hilarious comment to ever say, but it is still a job. And it's a full job. It's not over time.

[A]

Absolutely.

[B]

My. I think I have carpal tunnel in this fucking thumb.

[A]

I'm sure from editing and I know. Yeah. It really. It's wild because it's really. What you said of acting and modeling is now, like, online.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Which it's so cool to see, like, all your bits and comedy stuff because it really is like, that is acting.

[B]

Thank you.

[A]

It is memorizing lines.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know exactly when I did that one sound with from this is 4040 about the bullying kids.

[B]

You did the whole thing.

[A]

I was like, how the. Do these people memorize all these lines?

[B]

But you did it perfect.

[A]

I really can't. Okay. So is your husband going to look for per diem too, or is he just focusing on the app?

[B]

He's supposed to probably a lot.

[A]

Now that you guys have investors, it's going to pick up.

[B]

It's going to pick up. So why.

[A]

So any, like, timeline of all this?

[B]

That's the part I don't know.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Hopefully we know more soon.

[A]

But that is like, so above my head.

[B]

Yeah. Oh. That's why I'm like, can you handle this? I don't.

[A]

Girl.

[B]

Girls can handle that type of. But I don't have room on my plate. And I'm like, yeah, I don't. Please let that be your baby 100. I can't do it right now.

[A]

So what's your. What's your goal, like, in the next five years? Do you see yourself doing the app full time and Leaving bedside.

[B]

You know it's funny like I used to say, I've always said nursing's my plan B. So it's never been something I, I thought I would do for forever. And that, that hurts a lot of healthcare workers feelings for some reason. But it's probably the truth. I've never wanted to be a nurse for forever. It was literally to get me from plan A to plan the next part. So I would hope more acting gigs or something like that, looking into auditions, acting classes, things like that. That's what I would like five years. But al, honestly I'm a Libra and decision making is very difficult. So I change my mind all the time.

[A]

And it's. I said forever and people always bring this up. You said you would never leave nursing. I said I did because it wasn't an option to.

[B]

Exactly. You never thought it could.

[A]

Never thought it could. And it. Nursing was my plan A. I have a home video of my dad saying, what do you want to be when you grow up, Avery? And I was two and I said a nurse.

[B]

That's very.

[A]

I was like obsessed with those ER shows and my mom would be like, those are too gory for you. But I, and it's funny because I, I never like push medical on my kids. And even Stevie going to school, she just turned three on her like little preschool board. I filled out what she wants to be when she grew up and she said a worker doctor. Oh. So like I don't know, she has my gene in that sense, but it's, it was always my number one passion, my goal and I wanted to do it forever. And I always tell people like, if this didn't work out, I would have been a forever picky nurse. I don't think I would have ever left that unit.

[B]

Right.

[A]

Maybe at a different hospital, but I still would have stayed picky but because it wasn't an option for me. And I think what really made me realize that was I didn't have the option to do anything but full time because we just couldn't afford it. So I missed a lot of my kids lives like when they were newborns and little. And people always say, are you gonna leave nursing? And I said no, I'll never leave nursing because what else was I going to do? That's what I went to school for.

[B]

Right?

[A]

And then when I had the option to not just be home with my kids, work flexibility and then make way more money to support my family, why would I say no to that?

[B]

No one would.

[A]

And to anyone that hates on Me, My question always is, but would you say no? Probably not. Absolutely probably not. And I. That is what I can't stand.

[B]

Uh huh. I mean, honestly, I deal with that, I think to a smaller degree with like, I've been out of. I had surgery in April and it's been a few months and people are like, oh, are you even a nurse anymore?

[A]

That's what makes me laugh is I'm like, you do. You can google us.

[B]

Like literally.

[A]

Do you have our active license? I still am. Avery with. Exactly.

[B]

So I'm like, it's not that hard.

[A]

No.

[B]

Your brain.

[A]

Yeah, 100%.

[B]

But people. And people are going to hate regardless. But I mean, I've been like. I've been honest from the beginning. I've always said. And a lot of people got upset with me for saying nursing is my plan B. Oh, that means you're not passionate. You must not be a good nurse. You don't care about people. No. Like I said, that's the easiest part of this job is taking care of people.

[A]

I know so many people that it was their plan B.

[B]

Exactly.

[A]

I have worked with nurses that are some of the best nurses I've ever worked with in my entire life. And they're like, oh, I worked as a teacher for 10 years.

[B]

Exactly.

[A]

I was working Monday through Friday from 7am to 5pm I never saw my kids. I was paid $40,000 a year. I had to use my own money for school supplies. So I went to nursing school and I've never been happier. That's their plan B. That doesn't mean they don't love it and they're not a good nurse.

[B]

Right. It's all the other that we have to deal with that I'm just over.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Honestly, I also think it's a.

[A]

There's a difference between plan B and a backup plan.

[B]

Exactly.

[A]

Like you're falling back on something because something else didn't work out. No, I. I have plans A through Z.

[B]

Exactly.

[A]

And if I accomplish all of them, it doesn't mean I'm not passionate about it.

[B]

Exactly. That's a great way to put it. Get off yourself.

[A]

Okay. So speaking of all of this, what is your opinion on haters on social media?

[B]

Oh, we were talking about this earlier.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I'm getting better at what my opinion is because. No, I've. I've always known my opinion. Haters are stupid.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

They don't take. Honestly, they don't take.

[A]

Haters are stupid. Let's make that a meme.

[B]

They are. They're just stupid. They don't take enough time. It's like they don't have brain power to use. They don't have critical thinking skills, that's for Damn sure.

[A]

Yeah, 100% we do. They also don't have maturity to just, like, block us and move on. Like, you have to, like, hate on us that much. Continually, continually harass us.

[B]

It's like, are you okay? Aren't you tired?

[A]

Don't you have a hobby? Go to the gym, Work out that dream, work out that anger. Do that 12, 3, 30 on the treadmill, girl.

[B]

I'm like, it used to. I mean, honestly, starting out, it got to me really bad just because I was not prepared for the hate. But to be honest, I've had a lot worse things happen to me in my life. This is something my therapist is like, lindsay, let's talk about the other things that's happened in your life that's bad. This is nothing.

[A]

It's like it's outside noise.

[B]

Exactly.

[A]

It's tough.

[B]

If you did that and you survived that.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

You can deal with these words 100 these. And these people don't know you as long as you know who you are. And that's something I struggled with when I was first online. I didn't have a good sense of confidence in who I was. I'm only just now getting that within the last two years. And that is something I would, like, preach to anyone who's struggling. Like, maybe go out and get your self worth, get your self respect, figure out who you are. Because then those haters, it really doesn't matter. It really doesn't.

[A]

And it's. It's one of those things too, that I've realized. It doesn't matter what you change if you listen to them and use it as like constructive criticism or change what other people want to hear or see. You'll never please everyone.

[B]

No.

[A]

And it's so interesting because you and I were talking before we started recording about how in the healthcare field, we get a lot of hate because we're now, in addition to nursing, we were able to have a whole other career and make more money and have more flexibility. And like you said earlier, it's. People will preach about you being part of that medical field. And then as soon as you take off on social media, you're almost like exiled.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

Because they're like, oh, we know. We want you to do what's best for you. We want you to leave. And then you do. And they're like, no, you. You change.

[B]

You change.

[A]

You change. You Said you'd never leave nursing. I can't.

[B]

I'm like, are you serious? Once again, if the opportunity came at your doorstep, you would take it?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Because healthcare is hard. It is one of the hardest jobs. Emotionally, physically, mentally.

[A]

Yeah. You're understaffed, you're underpaid, you're underappreciated.

[B]

The we see.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

Not okay.

[A]

The trauma. The trauma with no help, no therapy. Like, none. Yeah, it's wild.

[B]

So it' like, honestly, we've. I've dealt with enough. The haters. Like. Like you said, background noise.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

That's the best way to put it.

[A]

So with your per diem job, are you doing adult icu?

[B]

Yes. I mean, I hope. I hope they don't float me. Adult ICU is what I signed up for, but we'll see. Yeah.

[A]

I mean, it's so interesting because I haven't been bedside since December of 2022, but then I did aesthetics until just October of last year. So I haven't even left nursing for a whole year yet. But, like, when I left bedside, we're still recovering from COVID and I feel like that's when the floating was so bad.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So hopefully it's not.

[B]

Yeah, I know.

[A]

Like that.

[B]

Hopefully I stick with one of them. We'll see.

[A]

I can't remember, but you don't want kids, right?

[B]

I don't.

[A]

And can you talk about why? Yeah, I'm curious. Because I love when people are, like, adamant and like, no, I don't. I'm like, I respect that.

[B]

Yeah. I used to not be so sure, but I think it's. Let me back up. My husband and I got married. I just turned 22.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

If you asked me then, I said yes. But it's mostly because I grew up in a very religious household. And what religion? Christianity.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

But more so than Christianity, it's like legalistic Pentecostal, but without the get up.

[A]

Got it like this.

[B]

And if anyone's grown up in that, they'll understand.

[A]

That's very similar to David's Holy gospel. Yeah.

[B]

Like people running laps around the church, like, yeah.

[A]

David's was a pastor's kid and you were a speak in tongues that.

[B]

Speaking in tongues.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I thought everyone did that. Literally. When I brought one of my friends to my church and she was like, what is happening? I was like, yeah, whoa. Yeah. So anyway, I grew up in a religious, very religious household with certain standards, you know, that I don't agree with anymore. One of them, you know, you marry, you have children. Yeah, that's Kind of your life.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Specifically for women.

[A]

Yeah. Your job is to be a homemaker.

[B]

That's your job.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And so I grew up with that mindset. I met my husband, we got married, and on our wedding night, someone asked, okay, so when you having a kid? And I was like, oh, geez, oh my. Kind of fast. But I was like, oh, you know, I don't know. And I just kept saying, I don't know for about two years. But it was every family function, someone was bringing it up. And I was like, holy shit, this is freaking me out. I don't think I want kids. But I was scared to talk to my husband because as far as I knew, we both wanted kids. Finally, we sat down one night. I was really upset after a family function, someone else asking me once again. I was like, how come they're never asking him 100%, always me, always the woman. It's always like cornering me and asking me, when am I having a child? Like, are you going to help with it? Just a whole mini whole lot of things. So we sat down, we had a conversation, and I was like, I am scared to tell you this, but I don't think I want kids. And he was like, oh, my God. Like, I don't think I want them either.

[A]

Nice.

[B]

The only reason I could come up with was to name them. That's not a really good reason to have a kid. Just for some fun little quirky names. And I was like, you know, I could probably name a dog that 100%. Like, I, I, I love him.

[A]

You get a snake, Please name him.

[B]

Please don't have children just to name them. So we went through kind of just like financially, especially at the time we were dirt poor. I was like, how on earth are we going to raise a child with no money? We're in school. I, I honestly couldn't see the next year of my life, let alone having a child.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But I just, I was never that little girl who played with dolls, who wanted, pretended to be mom.

[A]

Like, you weren't gravitated towards kids?

[B]

Never.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And it's not. People love to be like, oh, she's a monster. She hates kids. I don't hate kids. I actually love kids.

[A]

I can't. When people do that and they just don't want kids.

[B]

I just, it's weird.

[A]

I respect people that make that decision because unless you are 150% set on being a parent, you have no reason to try. I'm saying, like, blinds.com's Black Friday sales event is Happening now with our best deals of the season. Let our design experiment experts help you make the perfect selection for your home on your schedule. We can send free samples right to you and handle everything from measure to install. With over 25 million windows covered, Blinds.com is the number one online retailer of custom window coverings. Save up to 50% site wide, plus door busters and a free professional measure.

[C]

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[A]

Now rules and restrictions may apply. I get accidents happen and like, people, whatever. And they take care of their kids. That's great. But like, don't purposely get pregnant if you're like, I guess I could see myself being a parent. Like, kids don't deserve that.

[B]

No. They're, you know, human life. Like percent Also, you know, back then, I'm better now, but back then, like once again, didn't know who I was. I needed therapy so bad from. I grew up with. Had I had children at that age, I probably would have traumatized my kids. Not on purpose, just because of me not being healed.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And I'm so glad I stuck to my guns because telling my family, actually the next time they asked, you know, when are you guys having kids? We're not. They were like, what do you mean you're not? I mean, some of our family members had full blown meltdowns that we were not having kids. I was like, are you guys going to take care of them? Are you? They always say they are, but honestly, the tribe is busy. I say this a lot. Everyone's like, it takes a tribe, it takes a village. They're all fucking busy and they're working. Yep. So I know my family would not have been able to help us support a child. So there's just that we had no reason that we wanted one.

[A]

It's also so hard in the medical field. Like I. It's funny, like, I'll even tell Scott what my life was when Ziggy was born because I didn't know him then. And I'm like, I went back to work 12 weeks postpartum. I worked full time night shift. So I would leave my house at 6pm and I would come home at 8am I would breastfeed him. I would set an alarm for three hours. I would give myself a three hour nap because I felt so guilty being away from my newborn. Breastfeed him, be with him all day and do the same thing that night. Like, I felt like I missed so much of his life and I was so exhausted. And then same with Stevie because I worked day shift with her.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So it's like. And then David worked 4 tens a week. I worked 3 12s a week. So it was. Someone had to watch our kids from the time I left at 6am and then David would come home from a 10, 11, 12 hour shift at like 5pm yeah. Not even have time to shower, do the kids evening bath, bedtime routine, put them down, and we do the same thing the next day. But it's like there was someone else from the time they wake up, pretty much the time they go to sleep.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And then when he worked swing shifts, it was two to midnight. So he would get up with the kids at like 7am even though he had to work till like sometimes 1, 2, 3 in the morning.

[B]

Pretty good sleep.

[A]

Yeah. Because I would be gone from. From 6am to 8pm Because I work day shift.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So it's. That's another thing too. When I talk about leaving that profession, I will never have regrets because I've gained so much time with them.

[B]

Absolutely.

[A]

And it's. It's hard when you contemplate having kids and you guys are both working full time.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

In the nursing world.

[B]

Exactly. That was hard. Like, you know, like you. I told you, we went to school, both of us, a little later. A little later. And then like your traditional nursing school together. We did. Well, he was a year ahead of me.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

He got in. I was rejected that year. Oh, big hurt my ego. Yeah. I was like, wow, I feel bad. Yeah.

[A]

I filled my nclex twice.

[B]

So I honestly listened to your episode about that and I was like, that's so cool that you're telling people that because.

[A]

Oh, yeah. All the time.

[B]

It happens to so many of us.

[A]

So many. And people don't talk about it. And it's funny because people are like, oh, you probably didn't study. You're a bad student. I was like, I was thriving in nursing school. I just.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Just talking to our test.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. It's. We went to school a little later, but I. I wouldn't. I don't know. I wouldn't change it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know.

[A]

Yeah. Oh, my God. So. So he was a year ahead of you.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Did you go to the same school?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Did you see each other?

[B]

Yeah. Oh, yeah.

[A]

Wait, that's cute.

[B]

It was kind of cute.

[A]

But like, did you help each other study?

[B]

We. A little bit, but we're both procrastinators, so it's kind of hot. What are we doing?

[A]

Oh, my God. Not you guys in the scrub. Stop it.

[B]

Like, can you help Me with this page.

[A]

What?

[B]

Oh, yeah. So he helped me more than I helped him because he was a year ahead of me.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, all his notes and his friend's notes, those were the best, but.

[A]

Oh, I bet.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh, my God. Okay, so really random, but I got you a Blue Lagoon. Do you like it?

[B]

I do like it. You guys unsure because I don't know about blue raspberry? I know everyone loves that flavor, but.

[A]

I was like, yeah, blue raspberry and kiwi. That's the combo.

[B]

Oh, and kiwi.

[A]

Yeah, that's why I like it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

By the way, everyone thinks I'm sponsored by Black Rock. I'm not. Hey, Black Rock, what's up?

[B]

She should be.

[A]

I know.

[B]

I.

[A]

But we went to or. Scott went to Black Rock, and I texted her, and she's like, surprised me. I'm like, well, I have to get you a Blue Lagoon. That's what we're drinking. And I'm kind of burpee. And then we just ordered sushi because I'm gonna be on Lindsay's podcast.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

What's the name of your podcast?

[B]

Friends and Enemas.

[A]

Oh, that's cute.

[B]

I know. It keeps me in, like, the nursing world, but.

[A]

But the enemas is funny.

[B]

Funny. Thank you, Jared. He's the. Oh, really clever. Yeah, he's a smart one. He's a smart one. I know. Did he have the nerds before nursing?

[A]

He did in, like, tech.

[B]

No, it was in, I don't know, something like sports medicine. Oh, he's gonna kill me. Something about sports medicine.

[A]

No, he is, like, really, really smart.

[B]

He is.

[A]

And he's very well spoken for himself. Like, he's a. He's a good dude.

[B]

Thanks. I wish he. I wish he owned in on that, but.

[A]

Yeah, well, it's probably for the best. We don't want, like.

[B]

That's true. We don't need a Kanye west. For sure.

[A]

You know what? I could tell you some things off camera because we have very close. Oh, yeah. What? Yeah, because we have very close family friends that live in the Oaks in Calabasas, and that's.

[B]

Tell me off camera.

[A]

It's wild.

[B]

Want the tea?

[A]

It's wild because my really good friend Deb, who basically started my social media career with Cherokee, her daughter Sienna was a lifer at Sierra Canyon. So kindergarten through senior year.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

That's where all the Kardashians kids go.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

There are some tea.

[B]

Interesting with that. What? I would love to be a fly on the wall. Yeah.

[A]

I'm too scared to say Anything. Because they're really powerful. A lot of money. Don't say, don't sue me. I'm not saying anything. I swear to God.

[B]

Even after this, she's not saying.

[A]

Right. Okay, so besides the app, any other, like, career goals or plans as far as business? Because I feel like you could really slay, like a scrub collab. A shoe collab.

[B]

Oh, oh. Shoe club. I would love in my future. Scrub collab. Maybe. We'll see.

[A]

If you send it to me, I'll wear. I'll. I'll come out of retirement, my scrubs and all.

[B]

We have other business ideas. For sure. We're both something I like hearing you and David talk about is your entrepreneurial side.

[A]

Oh, yeah. Because David is Mr. Fucking Business Dude.

[B]

Him and Jared should get together and talk. It's hard friends that do this.

[A]

And we also have amazing lawyers in an incredible finance team. They're all local. Our finance team. Sorry this is like, getting so businessy. If anyone's bored, I apologize. But people don't see, like, outside of social media, like, the business side of it, but.

[B]

Right.

[A]

Our finance team specializes in people that do social media.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

So they help a lot. Because obviously it came so quick that we were like, we don't know what the fuck to do with this income. And we're very smart with investing. And now our lawyers are going through, like, trademarking and all that stuff and llc. So I'll give you all their info. But David, last night Scott and I were doing editing or whatever, and he's like, sending emails to the graphic designer and looking up trademarking stuff and looking at packaging for certain stuff and PR packaging. And I was like, okay, King. Like, he really is so busy because there's stuff that I just don't have fucking time for. Like, all. I'll open my email and I'm like, I need you to go e sign all these things for me. Like, I can't do it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That little stuff adds up.

[B]

Well, that's cool that you have him too. Like, it's awesome that he's got to essentially correct me if I'm wrong, but, like, essentially retire 100%.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And do you guys can do life together now, your whole family?

[A]

Yeah. Oh, for sure.

[B]

I think is so fucking cool.

[A]

Yeah. And it's also fun when. Which you know, because you guys have the app, but doing it together, like, being like, actual business partners. Especially, like when you live under the same roof. Like, we'll just be drinking our morning coffee, like this morning, and we were talking about, like, fluid Ounces of certain products and, like, consistency and things like that. Just, like, over a morning coffee, you know, it doesn't require, like, a zoom meeting.

[B]

Exactly. So, yeah.

[A]

I just. It's so interesting that coming from what our profession was before and how it is now, how it's, like, completely transitioned, it's just something I never expected.

[B]

No, me neither. Because, once again, I never had confidence, and so I never really. I had these dreams and aspirations, but I never truly thought I'd get there.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Which is, like, one thing you should. You should have confidence in yourself that totally. Whatever you want in life, you can totally tackle it.

[A]

100. And that's, like, what I was talking about earlier was I thought people only were interested in me because of my nursing career.

[B]

No, they love Avery.

[A]

Yeah. And that's what I had to believe that for myself, because I was. I wanted to leave for so long.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I had the opportunity to leave for a long time, but I was like, what if I leave and then all of this goes away because they hate me for leaving nursing.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But I feel like when you have that loyal audience and the people that love you for you, that's all that matters. And you just also just have to, like, have fun and do stuff that makes you happy.

[B]

Right. And, you know, if you, like, really love following someone, you're gonna love their growth in their life. Like, what they're. They're pivoting into. And, like, you're not just a nurse. You're not just a mom.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, you have these other aspects of you that are beautiful and people love to watch.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

That's, like, silly to just niche ourselves down to one little title, for sure.

[A]

Okay, so going back about body positivity, because I know you struggled a lot coming from the modeling world. You just got your boobs done.

[B]

I did Redone.

[A]

Let's talk about your yiddies.

[B]

Oh, do you want me to start from the beginning?

[A]

Yeah, actually, you should, because I think your story is really interesting.

[B]

Thank you.

[A]

I'm always talking about work I had done.

[B]

It's nice. It's interesting because it is a doozy.

[A]

Of talking about fake titties.

[B]

I know, right? So also, they look great if you.

[A]

Guys can't see them. The cleavage is really, actually very.

[B]

I'm very happy with them. But back in. I want to say, 2016, I got my first set of boobs. I went to the local plastic surgeon. My friends had gone to him. I had family members that had gone to him.

[A]

Was this in Arkansas or Oklahoma?

[B]

Oklahoma.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

First Mistake. Dear God.

[A]

Oh, no.

[B]

I don't think you should go. I don't know. I don't know. I would not go back to somewhere in Oklahoma. Let me just say that. But I went to him because word of mouth. All my friends boobs look great. I loved that. What I didn't recognize were the red flags that came with going there. I was like a tall woman and some things he said to me were like, oh, you. Your body could handle 600 cc's.

[A]

600.

[B]

Your body could handle this many cc's. I was like, I just want like a C. Whoa. Okay.

[A]

For anyone that's not familiar with tits, I titties. I have three 30ccs in each of mine and I'm a 34 double D.

[B]

So I started as a 34B double. Exactly.

[A]

And I see. And I was naturally a 34 double D. So naturally I was a 34 double D. Breastfed both my kids and I was just missing volume. Like they were just saggy and loose skin. So she basically just like filled that space with the implant that was the size I was pre boo. Pre baby.

[B]

Yeah. Your natural boobs.

[A]

Yeah. Going from a B.

[B]

Going from a B to a 600cc. So I told him multiple times, what the. I want like a little C. Yeah. Tried on 375cc's. 350cc's. That's what we were ranging. Still. I felt like they were big, but I did not speak up. But I did say that's what I signed for was 300 some odd cc's, went to surgery, woke up with 575 in both of them.

[A]

No.

[B]

Yes, I did.

[A]

No.

[B]

I was like, this feels heavy.

[A]

What the.

[B]

This feels heavy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. When I tell people this, they're like, what the. I could find some pictures.

[A]

575.

[B]

575.

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I've never.

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[A]

Even heard of that out of all of my like, we live in Arizona. Okay. Scottdale is like plastic galore. All my friends have fake boots.

[B]

Snobsdale.

[A]

I've actually never heard of anyone above three. Something like. I've never even seen a 400. And starting with basically nothing. Oh my.

[B]

575. So I had problems instantly. Sure. They dropped way Sooner than they should have. They dropped. And, like.

[A]

Because they're heavy.

[B]

They're too heavy. They're way too heavy. So I went back to him because they had dropped so low. It was hurting. Yeah, it was only one of them. Sorry. One of them had dropped super low. This is the craziest thing from the whole thing. One of them. I dropped so low. I went back to him and he convinced me that it was my body. It was. It's. It's your fault, actually. So I was like, oh, okay, that's weird. But I trusted him. I wasn't. I was in nursing school at the. This time, so I didn't really know a lot of. With healthcare. I go back under the knife with him and how. How big are incisions? Oh, under. Underneath.

[A]

Tiny.

[B]

Two, three inches maybe. What.

[A]

What did he bring you back in for?

[B]

To fix the one that had dropped. Okay. It's going to.

[A]

They'll do, like, the internal st. Okay, got it. Yeah.

[B]

I woke up. He told me, you will wake up with no pain. I was like, okay, like, no pain. No worse pain than before. I was like, easy. Because I didn't have pain before. No problem. I woke up screaming for Jared to take me to the er. Not only that, I woke up on the table. I remember waking up on the table with my eyes, and I was like. Could see him hovering over me. I could feel pressure. When I woke up in the bedroom, where back home, I told Jared, like, something's wrong. You have to unwrap me. Something's wrong. He unwraps me. And he had cut me from here to here. Never, never talk to me about it if you're not watching. He cut me from one side of my breast all the way to the other. I was hysterical. We call him to see what happened. He said, oh, we just had, you know, some complications. I had to fix it. I said, but what did you do? He wouldn't tell me over the phone. We go in for my follow up. Something I didn't mention is that second surgery, I met his intern, and I always wonder, did you let him cut me?

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100.

[B]

Like, what happened? Being in medicine now, I'm like, did you let him cut me? And, like, you weren't there. Like, I don't know what happened. But not only did he cut me from here to here, he took a wedge of skin out to give me a fake, like a. A. A type of lift, but he would not mention that it was a type of lift.

[A]

What the.

[B]

That was my second surgery at this point. I Hate my boobs, hate my body. Cuz he didn't go down in size either because he only did one boob. So I still had 575ccs. Hate my body. I'm so like, I'm constantly covering up my tits. I end up going to several other surgeons to get their idea of what had happened and they all told me he gave you a partial lift without telling you is what he did. And they don't know why. He took out a wedge of skin. Go to another surgeon for a third surgery. He goes down in volume about 400cc's is what I got. Still way too big. I have semastia as well because of. Yeah, if you don't uniboob.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. They basically it lifts your skin from your sternum if they're putting an implant that's too large.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So third time semastia is not fixed. I saw these huge tits and I hated my body. So about another a year later I just wanted them out. I was like, fuck this shit, I can't pay for it again. I was so broke at the time. Had them removed, which was two incisions all the way across. Had them removed, thought I would never look back. But then four years later I was like constantly like watching plastic surgery. I was like, is there anyone out there that can just fucking listen to me? I just wanted him. 300cc. Yeah, it's not that big. Blah, blah, blah. Anyway, found a doctor in New York, had several meetings with her and finally was like, okay, I'm going to do it. But I was scared to fucking death.

[A]

Oh, I bet.

[B]

I was like, if this goes wrong, what then?

[A]

Yeah. And you're happy.

[B]

Oh, I'm so happy. I'm so glad I did it.

[A]

Good.

[B]

Sorry, that's a long winded story. But I can't just say, oh, I had several surgeries.

[A]

I think it's important to talk about that because I always am a huge advocate for plastic surgery. I think if you're not happy with your body or something on you and you're able to afford to not fix it, but make yourself feel more confident, enhance it, then I think you should. And I think it's important to hear stories like that because it just shows you have to advocate for yourself. And it's really intimidating in the medical field when you aren't educated on it. You're scared to speak up because you're like, you're the doctor. Like, you're right, right.

[B]

They know better.

[A]

It's like, I'm sorry you're paying them. You should get what you want.

[B]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[B]

People told me you should sue. We tried, but it's an elective surgery. It's extremely hard to sue. An elective.

[A]

I'm sure. Whoa.

[B]

That's crazy. I love them now.

[A]

Good.

[B]

And she listened to me. I'm so glad.

[A]

And who was a doctor?

[B]

Dr. Anna Steve in New York City. Okay. Love her.

[A]

Good to know. For people I know.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I do think it's worth traveling sometimes when. If you find a surgeon that works for you, because I feel like people just look for different things, and it's.

[B]

It's hard because there's not one surgeon fits all.

[A]

Hundreds of thousands of doctors.

[B]

Yeah. So.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Well, I think that's it. I think we caught up on everything.

[B]

Certified yapper. I can keep yapping, but.

[A]

Oh, my gosh. Stop. Okay, so remind everyone your app and where to find you on socials.

[B]

My app is Scrubster. Scrubstr. Name might be changing, but my handle is Scrub Packs on tick tock, YouTube, Instagram, Facebook, and then I'm going on.

[A]

Lindsay's podcast right after this. Friends and enemas. So go check that out. Thanks for being here.

[B]

You're welcome. Thanks for guys. Bye.