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Hi, welcome to Cheers. I'm your host, Avery Woods. Hi, guys. Welcome back to the Cheers podcast. I'm your host, Avery Woods.
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Hi.
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I have a very exciting guest today. We are in Aspen Ovard's home. Hi.
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Hi.
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Welcome to Cheers.
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I know.
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Thank you so much for being here. No, I'm. You guys don't understand. Aspen raised me. Okay. And, I mean, we just talked about this, but I've watched you on YouTube, like, since the beginning.
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Yeah. That's crazy.
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And I just think you're in the best era ever right now, and I love it for you. And I think people are very tuned in to your life. I mean, they always have been, but especially right now.
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No, definitely in the new era. They are.
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Yeah.
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They are a little more tuned in than usual.
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Yeah. There's a new era to you, which I love, and we're going to talk all about it. But first, just how are you?
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I'm good today.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. It's definitely been really up and down, but today, the last couple days, I've been feeling better. I feel like everything just kind of comes in waves.
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Yeah.
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So, yeah.
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And I think I'm in a bad.
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Way, but now I'm good.
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Yeah. And you are so open about your struggles and how you help your struggles with yourself. Like, you've talked about being on Zoloft and stuff, but I think. I think you're a great example of people just don't understand what's happening behind the scenes of your entire life on social media. But you also are great at setting boundaries of what you choose to share and what you don't. And I think, like, Remy was talking about this when you were on their podcast and she was saying how you have taught so many creators, including myself, that doesn't matter what people say about you because they just don't know who you are as a person. And I love that about you because you really do draw such an important boundary with what you want people to know and what you keep private.
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Yeah.
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And obviously you were with the same person since you were 17 years old.
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Yeah.
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And you've publicly now talked about the fact that you are no longer together, you're getting divorced, you have kids together. And I think what kind of blew everyone's mind was last week, you were kind of just like, well, let's talk about some things.
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Yeah. What.
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What made you feel like you wanted to open up more?
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I think it's just, honestly, I felt really lonely because there's been. I mean, in the beginning, I was like, oh, I'm not going to talk about this at all. Like, yes, I'm divorced, but, like, okay, let's move on from that.
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Yeah.
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And then I feel like everything has really just kind of hit me and just like, you learn different things, and it is such a lonely feeling. And it has been helpful to me, which I feel like I haven't really been through tons of crazy stuff in the past before, so I haven't necessarily connected with people in that way of, like, we're both going through this hard thing. Whereas now that has been really helpful to me. Like, I've had so many people reach out to me who have, like, followed me and they're going through something similar, or maybe they just randomly see, you know, my videos or whatever. But I feel like I have just connected more with people and I don't know, I think I just was like.
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I can't keep it in anymore.
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Keep it in anymore. Yeah.
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And I also think you obviously inspire so many people and you've grown up with the same audience, and obviously now as you've gotten older and, you know, come into motherhood and stuff, you gain a different type of audience as well.
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Yeah.
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But you can really see the difference in, like, who you've become as a person. Like, you really have grown into such an incredible woman and mom and are so mature and put together for your age. I mean, you're one year younger than me, but I think people also forget, you know, when they see us on social media that we really, like, we're not even 30 years old yet.
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Yeah.
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And you really have your life together, and you have since you were so young. And you can just see the difference in, like I told you earlier, you just are glowing so different lately. And people see that, and I feel like it's a huge reflection of what's going on in your life and your mental health and also what you're leaving behind to move on to, like, a new era.
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Yeah, it's definitely been. I mean, there's been just so many changes and different big things going on, and it's been a lot the last Few years. So it feels nice. I mean, I feel like I'm at almost like the beginning of this healing journey. Even though, you know, everything with divorce always like takes so long. But it feels like I'm starting. I mean I am starting over. Like I'm single now and I just moved and it definitely is like a new era. But it's weird cuz it's, it's so happy, but it's so sad.
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Yeah.
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But being in California for sure has helped just day to day. Like I'm. I'm a lot happier here.
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Yeah.
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So I'm so grateful that I was able to move and be here. But yeah, it's still just lots of heavy stuff going on.
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Well, and for those that don't know Aspen or aren't super, super familiar with her, she's been on YouTube since. How old were you when you.
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I was 14.
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Yeah. 14 years old.
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That's 14 years.
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Nuts.
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Yeah.
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And you were, was your now ex husband, your first like boyfriend and you got married at 19.
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Yeah.
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Which is so young. So I mean I remember you guys together like since the beginning, your vlogs and stuff, which is crazy. And like I remember when you guys bought your house and I was like, holy, this chick is so successful. I was like, she's everything. Like I remember when you open your clothing store, I was like, hell yeah.
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Get it?
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Like the chunky like cardigan sweaters and stuff.
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Oh yeah, I know. Oh my God, I've had so many eras.
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The over edited like really white photos and I was like presets.
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Yeah. You're like here for.
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Oh, hell yeah. That was like the shit.
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So many eras. Yeah. It's crazy to have so much of my life online. Like it truly is.
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Yeah. But I think you've just handled everything with so much grace in class. And also you really don't give a fuck about what anyone says about you or thinks about you, which is so inspirational for me because for a long time that was stuff I always took to heart. And then I loved what you said on. I believe it was pretty basic when you said, if I see something about myself and I know it's not true, then why am I going to waste my time talking about it? And I feel like that all the time where I'm like, no one knows what's going on. It's just an assumption. Have you always felt like that or did you used to respond to hate before?
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I mean, I. Sometimes, yeah, we'll respond to whatever. I have like a snarky response back. But I Feel like I have always been like that from the beginning. Like it's just not, it doesn't feel relevant to me if it's true. And I feel like I've always been really good at just processing that. Like you only see so much. Like you just see such a little part of who someone is even when they share as much of their life as I do or as anybody else does. Like you just don't see the whole picture. So I'm like, if you and I just look at the assumptions and I'm like, they're wrong though. So it's, it doesn't matter. Yeah. Like it's just not relevant to me. Like if someone comments like, oh, she's a bad mom or whatever, I'm like, yeah, you know, you're not there and.
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Yeah. And you also don't know.
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So you're relevant to me. Yeah.
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You know my kids lives and what's going on day to day.
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Yeah. So I've always kind of been like that.
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Yeah. And when you got married so young, was your family supportive?
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Yeah, it's, it's just so common in Utah that.
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Yeah.
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I mean you just like almost don't think twice about it, so.
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I always thought you were Mormon.
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No.
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And I. Yeah, that's what I was asking you about before because for some reason I thought you were LDS and left the church, but I just realized you weren't. But it is a Utah culture thing.
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Yeah. And I grew up. I've like been to the church a million different times. Like my dad grew up Mormon and my mom didn't and then she, I guess like converted. I don't, I don't feel like I associate that word with like it. Because she's not Mormon so it just seems weird. But she like started going to church, so I went when I was little and then I went for a little period in fourth grade when my mom again was like trying to figure out if it was for her and if she liked it and wanted to go. And I just wanted to go like see my friends at school.
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Yeah.
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So I've like been to the church a million times. I'm really familiar. I would go to my friends like farewell talks in high school when they were going, going on their missions and stuff. But yeah, I don't, even with all that, I don't consider myself to have like grown up Mormon, but I'm really familiar with the church and the teachings and obviously the culture is just what you're raised in and what you're surrounded with. And so it's like such a part of who you are without you even really realizing it.
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Obviously. You have three beautiful daughters with your now ex husband. Do you wish you would have waited to get married or do you have no regrets because of the way your life is?
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I. It's so hard because when you have kids, it's like, you wouldn't.
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Of course, that comes with the terr.
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Yeah. So you're like, oh, well, I wouldn't change a single thing, even if I regret this, because then I wouldn't have these exact kids. Yeah. But if I could know, like, if you take that out of it and I would know, like, no, you'll have these babies. And I knew that I wouldn't, like, lose them in that way. If I ever did something different, I, a thousand percent would have waited to get married. Like, I look back now and I'm like that. I genuinely, I've said this before, I don't think it should be legal to get married before. You literally are like 25.
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Yeah. Until your brain is fully developed.
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Yeah.
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I mean, I, I mean, I'm 21. I was 21 when I got married. But yeah, I also think, you know, my husband is six and a half years older than me, so it was very different. And, you know, I was in nursing school and I, I definitely still don't think I was ready.
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Yeah.
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But it's not one of those things that I, I would ever go back and change because, you know, what comes with it.
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Yeah.
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But Also, now being 29 and you're 28, I don't know if you feel like that, but like, you think back, like, I think back to being 21. You think back to being 19 when you got married and you're like, I was a child.
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No, I feel like I made the decision as a child. Child, like, that obviously it's a legal adult and we were both like, consenting legal adults. I was 19, he was 20. But yeah, I feel like I made that choice when I was a kid. And I genuinely feel like when you turn 25 and your brain, like, your frontal lobe does develop, I. I'm like, that's a real thing. And you feel different and you think different, and it is so real. And even for, like, people who are happily married, that, like, they're like, oh, I got married at 19 too. And like, we are still going strong or whatever. I'm like, that's great.
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But yeah, there's differences.
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So young to make that choice. Yeah.
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And also people develop differently. Like, I, I feel like as a woman, And I was talking to my best friend Ashley about this because she turned 30 in February and she's like, it's just like a new era.
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Yeah.
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And I feel that, like, as a 29 year old approaching 30, I'm sure you feel like this, but as you grow into yourself as a woman and a person and you get older, you're like, this is who I am.
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Yeah.
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Like forever. Like, this is the person I was meant to be. And I was not that at 21 years old.
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Yeah, same. I feel like I hate to even, like, blame the culture because it's like you can grow up anywhere and you can still have, you know, different opinions.
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Or like, it's an underlying pressure when everyone around you is married and having kids.
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Yeah. And when it's just the way it is. Like, you almost, like, obviously everyone there is not married at 19, but it's like you almost just don't quite realize how different life could be or like, different life paths. I think just growing up in Utah specifically and like, in a religious place specifically, and then even in a small town specifically, like, your brain just can't quite expand. I think at least for myself, that's how I felt to even really understand that I could make a different choice. And again, I wanted to get married. And so did he. Like, we fully were like, yes, we want to do this, whatever. But now that I'm looking back, I'm like, I didn't really even. Like, I knew that I could have gotten married at like 27 or something. But you just don't quite connect that possibility in your brain when it's just not how the culture is waiting doesn't.
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Feel like an option.
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Yeah, yeah.
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And I'm sure people around you too, like, when you're together for so long, they're like, so you're gonna get married? Like, what's the. Especially because. Did you guys live together before you married?
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No. I wanted to, but he didn't.
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Oh, okay. Was. Is he religious?
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He grew up Mormon.
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Okay.
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He's not now, but he, like, would say he grew up Mormon.
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Okay. So it was probably like embedded in his brain, like, don't live together before marriage. Okay.
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Yeah. So he didn't want to. And I was like. And I wanted to get married anyways, so it was just like, okay, well. And we were building a house too.
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So it was like, oh, yeah, yeah.
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Yeah, we'll build a house, get married and live together kind of all at the same time.
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I also feel like living together really does make such a difference. And I'M not like trying to say you need to before you're married to anyone, but I moved in with David when I was 18, so we lived together for three years before we got married.
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Yeah. Oh, I think everybody should.
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So I think that made such a huge difference because our life was already combined.
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Yeah.
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We already had routine.
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When you, like, check to make sure that you know it, it works.
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And check to make sure you really know that person in and out. Because I'm sorry, but when you're not sharing a house, like a household deal, like living under the same roof, you do not know the ins and outs of that human.
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And I say that all the time. I'm like, I a thousand percent think that people should live together before they get married. And people are like, oh, well, statistically, actually, like, if you live together before, you're more likely to get divorced. Something like that. And I'm like, there is no way.
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No.
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Because how do you. You need to check. You need to know everything.
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Also, being married is already such, like a big life change and almost culture shock. And then moving in at the same time.
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Yeah.
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Is nuts.
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And imagine if you waited until. To have sex.
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You waited till marriage.
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No, I said imagine. Just like, in general. No, that was. I was like, no, we're not doing it all. No, I'm not doing it all the same time. That's too much. Yeah. I mean, so many people do that and good for them, but 100, like that.
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Yeah. Like, kudos to you. Like, I do need the duck. Sorry. You're like.
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I'm like, hold back from that. Yeah, that will not be me.
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But okay, so out of curiosity, because you were married for so long, looking back now, not being with this person, do you feel like there was always signs or do you feel like it was always a really healthy marriage and then things change? Or was there things that you kind of look back on and you're like, oh, that wasn't the most healthy.
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Yeah. I definitely look back. You can just see so much more clearly, I think. Not just once you're out of something, but again, once you're older and you have life. More life experience. And I mean, I definitely look back and it is hard, I will say, to look back at this point with where I am in, like the journey of it and healing and see, remember the good parts. Because I just look back and I'm like, so angry at this point that I'm like, well, this, this, and this from, like all these years ago and whatever. So at this point, I'm not Really having a lot of the good memories, but I know that that's kind of just where I'm at, like, in the healing process.
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Your angry face.
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I. Yeah, I definitely am, for sure. Like, there's just so many things to grieve. It's not just, like, not being married. I mean, there's just. There's so many. Like, I could list off 50 different things. You're grieving at the same time. Like, the. What your family was going to look like, the relationship, like, the decision. Thinking back to making that decision at 19, I'm like, I never could have imagined that I would be divorced. And I was always. My parents are divorced, and so are, like, all of my grandparents, and they're all remarried. And so I've always had the belief that, like, I'm just grateful to live in a time where we can make that decision as women and not be stuck with these guys.
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Very much so. Yeah.
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And there's actually a. An old YouTube video of mine that people have, like, been posting on TikTok that it's us in a Q and A. And I said that I. The question was, like, what do you think about divorce? Or something like that. And even back, like, six, seven years ago, I said the exact same thing where I was like, if we're ever at a point where that's what we need to do, like, that's what we're gonna do. People grow and change. And I double, triple down at that opinion that I had that many years ago.
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Wow.
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And that's why. So at this point, I'm like, I don't really feel like I believe in marriage, because I know so many people are like, oh, that's just, like, not respecting marriage or whatever, but I'm just like. I think it's just not for me, I guess, is what I would say.
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Okay. I just really commend you because I know you guys, you will always put your kids first. And people don't see your kids on the Internet anymore for privacy reasons, which I really respect. But you, like, knowing you personally, behind the scenes, you are always mom. Being a mom is the most important thing to you. And I just think you've gone through this entire process so gracefully because even though there are some, you know, feelings towards him, he is still the father of your kids. And you have always kept it very classy and respectful because you know that your kids will always love him as their dad, and that's the most important thing to you. And I just think that's incredible because not a lot of women that have been through what you've been through would go that route.
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Yeah, no, it's. It's a very hard, confusing place to be in. Especially because there are just certain things that I wasn't aware of when I was first getting divorced and now I know those certain other things. It's a very weird place to be in, to feel so lonely and feel like, oh my gosh, I need to like talk about this. I need to connect with people. I need to try and understand what's going on. Because, you know, before this I was a little bit more clear headed with keeping it all offline, but now I'm like, I'm not trying to bring it online. I'm just trying to navigate what I have been through. And it's a really difficult position to be in for me, I think because you just don't know what the right answer is. Because obviously if I share anything, I'm like, well, that could affect my children. Whether I'm going about it in the absolute best way I can or if I just like went crazy and spilled everything. But then to suffer in silence is also a really hard thing.
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Yeah.
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I'm like, I've been through so much. But then you always want to put your kids first, so it's hard.
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I also think it would drive anyone crazy to not to be just completely closed off. But I also think you're at a point where you deserve to share what you are comfortable sharing.
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Yeah.
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You know, because those decisions were out of your hand and they weren't made by you.
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Yeah.
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You know, they were made by him and unfortunately this is where it's led to. But you're also, you know, it's the right decision, you know, and it's what you've wanted for a while. So I remember being on Tik Tok and you, while you people didn't realize when you gave birth, which I loved, you like pushed it off for a long time before you like really shared and people thought you just like left your baby in the Nikki while you went to some resort. I remember that and I was like, be so fr. These people need to stop. But then the Tik Tok came out about you filing for divorce. Was that the day you gave birth?
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No. So I.
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Or was it just leaked the day you gave birth?
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The day that I filed. It was shared that day. I don't know by who. I don't know. I didn't really tell anyone.
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It was shared the same day.
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The same day.
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Dude, people are.
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My baby was a few weeks old at the time I had had her, and I just. I mean, I was going through so much. Yeah. I just didn't want to post right away and she was in the nicu. I wanted.
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Yeah.
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To, like, make sure I was all good. So. Yeah. I had shared my post that day and I don't know, I know it, like, sounds crazy to just, like, not think it's weird to, like, post pictures, like, post a birth announcement and then also file for divorce the same day. But, like, it. I didn't think anybody would see it. I wasn't gonna talk about it at that time.
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Yeah.
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So it wasn't a big deal to me. Like, people are like, oh, there's like, something weird about the timing. It was April 1st, blah, blah, blah, like the day she had her baby. But it was not that people didn't.
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Realize that you had given birth with weeks prior.
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No.
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Well, and then I remember, like, you know, him being in the room, and people are like, oh, my God, he's in the room while she's giving birth. And I'm like, well, okay, first of all, no one knows the full story of anything, but also, like, it is his child.
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Yeah.
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You know, like.
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Yeah. No. I feel like the crazy thing about Tick Tock is people will just say something and then other people see it and then they think it's like, what? Oh, it was like in my. I think it was. I posted a Tick tock or something and he, like, wasn't in it, like, from birth, something like that. I don't know. And so people were like, oh, he wasn't even at the birth. Blah, blah, blah. So they're commenting this and then I'm like, watch my vlog. He's. He was there. He took me to the hospital. And then people. Things just get so misconstrued. And then it's just crazy to be so public. Yeah. Like, people were confused because I said that I had called my friend to come over and I meant to come over and be with my daughters because this happened, like, in the middle of the night.
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Yeah.
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And people thought that I meant to, like, take me to the hospital. So then they're commenting like, oh, her. Like, he wasn't there. Her friend took her to the hospital. And so then they're just commenting that everywhere and that. Other people see it and they read it and they comment it too. And I'm like, that. No, that's not what it was. So it's just such an interesting thing to just see things like that. I don't know. And I. I just don't ever have like anything like this happen. I feel like I live kind of a low key, like I'm a low key creator. You are having crazy things and then to have this happen is. It really has been so crazy.
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I also think too when people have seen you grow up on such a huge public platform with the same person by your side the whole time, I think it's just something that people didn't expect. Especially when you were very publicly pregnant.
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Yeah, no, I definitely think that they maybe didn't expect or I know a lot of people thought like oh, this has to be fake. Especially because I hadn't said anything. But I'm like, that's the thing about me though is I will have whatever level of privacy I want. And I wish it hadn't been leaked in that way just because it was annoying. And I hate to even say the word leaked because I'm like, no, I just feel like weird saying that. But I mean it was posted without my knowledge and people are like, oh well, court documents are public record. That doesn't change the fact that it's weird though that someone saw that and then posted it.
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That's why I don't get it. I'm like, how the fuck did someone find that so quick? It's so weird.
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My theory is that it was somebody from like the law firm. Like obviously they wouldn't have been allowed to do that but you can easily anonymously share anything, you know. Cuz I hadn't really like told people. Like a lot of my friends didn't even know.
- [23:40]
B
Like wow. So people not even that I was.
- [23:43]
A
Getting divorced but that I was like at the point of I'm going to file.
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B
Yeah.
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A
So people are like wait, what is going on? So a lot of my friends probably were even like wait, what the heck? Like I was just at lunch with them like two days ago. Like what is this?
- [23:54]
B
Okay, so I've seen a lot of comments about assumptions cuz obviously when something like this happens people assume the reason when they just don't know.
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A
Yeah.
- [24:04]
B
And again we're not going to go into specifics cuz it's privacy for your kids and obviously that's their dad. But have you ever been cheated on?
- [24:13]
A
Not that I am aware of, no. I don't think so.
- [24:16]
B
Okay. Because I saw that was like the number one question.
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A
Yeah, that and that he's gay.
- [24:21]
B
Yeah.
- [24:21]
A
He's not gay.
- [24:22]
B
Okay. Yeah, I saw a lot of questions on his sexuality which I. I'm like.
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A
That is a whole other thing to me. Because I'm like, that would just be devastating for him that he, like, wasn't living his truth. Like, I would never be acting like this or so upset. I mean, I completely understand that you would feel kind of betrayed, because did you know? Like, did you waste my time? Whatever. But I think just growing up in Utah, I'm so sensitive to, like.
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B
Yeah.
- [24:45]
A
I've just been around a lot of homophobic people, so anything to do with, like, lgbtq, anything, I'm like, I will die for you.
- [24:52]
B
Yeah. That's how we.
- [24:53]
A
Anything with it. So for people to think that I would be exposing his sexuality.
- [24:57]
B
That's the thing I was gonna say.
- [24:59]
A
What if he was?
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B
And if he was, you would never be the one to out him.
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A
No, never. I would never talk about that.
- [25:04]
B
No.
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A
Like, that's private for you, and I would never want to share something like that.
- [25:07]
B
Yeah.
- [25:07]
A
So it's kind of been crazy that that's, like, the number one thing, and I just feel like us, like, the place we're at in the world, and with people being, like, more woke and whatever, I'm like, guys, this is not okay to act this way if he was gay.
- [25:20]
B
Yeah.
- [25:21]
A
Like, why are you acting like that's a bad, crazy thing?
- [25:23]
B
I know.
- [25:24]
A
Like, that's not the same as if he cheated. Act crazy if you cheated, for sure, but not if it's that he was gay.
- [25:30]
B
Well. And, I mean, obviously, being from Utah, you're, like, at the most extreme. Arizona, we see a huge glimpse of that, obviously. And, you know, Scotty and I talked about that when we had an episode together, but I just. Yeah. We are for the gays here.
- [25:46]
A
Oh, we are.
- [25:47]
B
We're for the gays. So I want to talk about your move, because we are in her home, and it is literally stunning. Like, I told I married this. But you should be so proud of yourself. It is stunning. It is beautiful. You are in the most gorgeous location for your kids, and it's just. It's just magical.
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A
Yeah.
- [26:08]
B
So I know you obviously vacationed a lot here. When were you, like, okay, I want to live here.
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A
It's been a couple years that I've wanted to live back. Yeah. I think just the Utah culture that I talk about, like, so much, I'm like, there's so much of that, but just thinking about raising daughters there, I'm like, I just don't know if that's what I want for my kids. So for a while, I've been thinking about it, and then we would come vacation here all the time. We would Come for like a month or something or just like two weeks is like as long as we could. And I've done. I've came here a lot more the last like couple years. And so I just knew that it was time for a change. I could not be in my same home anymore. And I couldn't imagine living anywhere else in Utah. And my best friend also was planning to move.
- [26:53]
B
Oh, she lives here too?
- [26:54]
A
No, I wish she moved back to our hometown. So I was like, I cannot be here.
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B
Yeah.
- [27:01]
A
Anymore. So I've been looking at houses for a long time. Like I would check all the time and then I kept seeing some that were like. I was like, oh, this could work. Like maybe this one, maybe that one. I would need to see it. And I just knew that when I saw the one, I would have the feeling like, this is meant to work out. This is gonna be perfect. This is the one. And there would be no question. And that's how I felt. And I would tell myself, like, okay, after I bought, like if I bought this one after I buy, I can't go on Zillow anymore to see like something better come up. But there is like, I know that there's nothing better than no also for me and where I need to be. So it's.
- [27:37]
B
Yeah.
- [27:38]
A
Worked out. I'm so lucky to be in the home.
- [27:41]
B
Well. And I think people usually compromise on either the house or the location. And you got both.
- [27:48]
A
I know.
- [27:48]
B
Which is huge because this, it's so rare in this area to be able to get that.
- [27:53]
A
Yeah.
- [27:53]
B
And I mean, you guys, it's stunning. Like I feel very privileged to be able to be in here and see it, but it's gorgeous.
- [28:00]
A
Thank you. Beautiful.
- [28:01]
B
And I can just tell how happy you are in it.
- [28:03]
A
Yeah. You know, it feels so, so good to be here. I went back to Salt Lake a couple weeks ago cuz I was flying out of there for a girls trip that I planned a while ago. And normally when I would come home from a trip, I would be just like immediate. Like as soon as a plane touched the ground, like immediate depression, it would just like trigger me. And like the drive home from the airport, I just hate it. I've not liked being in Utah for a long time, but just like going to Salt Lake, knowing I was leaving in a couple days, I was like, oh, this is the best feeling. Like I have no regrets at all.
- [28:33]
B
Good.
- [28:34]
A
And then even when I came home from that trip, was in Salt Lake for a couple days before then. And just coming back here after the second I landed and like walked up to my door. I knew I was like, this is just the best decision that I could have made for myself. I'm so happy that I good did it because I wanted to for so long. And it is, I mean, it's a complicated process.
- [28:54]
B
Yeah.
- [28:54]
A
With everything going on. But it seriously could not have like worked out better.
- [28:59]
B
So you also deserve it. Like, you've worked so hard for so long and I know people have so much negativity to talk about influencers and the money we make, blah, blah, blah. But the behind the scenes of how hard of a working mom you are, that you get to provide this for yourself in this new era and your kids, it's a huge accomplishment. Like, you should be so, so proud.
- [29:23]
A
Thank you.
- [29:23]
B
And I also just love how aside from everything happening with the divorce, you guys are still co parenting and putting the kids first. And like you were just saying how, you know, even on different days when the kids are with you or him, you guys are just still seeing each other together. And like your kids are seeing you guys together, which is really important.
- [29:47]
A
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B
And yeah, because that's very rare.
- [30:19]
A
Yeah. That is not how it was with my parents. Like up until literally a couple months ago, my, my family of all six of us. I think the last time we were together in the same room was at my wedding, which was nine years ago.
- [30:30]
B
That's crazy.
- [30:31]
A
And so it was just a couple months ago that we were all together again and I just was like, I did not know if this would ever happen again to have like my whole family together. So I just, I don't want that for my kids.
- [30:41]
B
Yeah.
- [30:42]
A
If I can help it.
- [30:43]
B
I also think cuz you and I talked about this, about how David and I were contemplating moving and I think sometimes when you evolve and change in life and you go through these big changes, leaving the environment you were in is very healing because you leave a lot of that negativity behind.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Do you feel like that?
- [31:04]
A
I feel like that for sure. I feel like the whole it's just like, that's. I'm not living that life anymore. The life that I lived when I built that home and brought my kids home, like, that's not my life anymore. And so it was very triggering to be in that same space. And I love my house. And we just did some, like, renovating and whatever, but I was like, I. My mental health, like, cannot stay here. And, I mean, I had thought about it for so long, but I'm just so happy that I, like, made it happen.
- [31:35]
B
Yeah. When did you start Zoloft? And I'm legitimately asking, because I kind of want to get on it.
- [31:43]
A
I was pregnant.
- [31:44]
B
Oh.
- [31:45]
A
I haven't said yeah, because I feel like people.
- [31:47]
B
No, that's a conversation I had with my ob. That's a very common.
- [31:52]
A
I would sob at my doctor's appointments. Like, I would. I would. The drive to the hospital was. I would just. Which is where their office was.
- [32:00]
B
Yeah.
- [32:01]
A
But I was hysterical. And so I could. I couldn't even speak, like, through the appointments. And I don't want to get into that too much because people have obviously asked about. That's my third daughter. And I'm like, just leave her. She's happy. She's so loved. She was so wanted. She was planned. Like, she is, like, gossip about anything.
- [32:19]
B
No. But don't talk about my little, beautiful, happy baby.
- [32:23]
A
Yeah.
- [32:24]
B
She's so sweet.
- [32:25]
A
She is just the best angel, and I love her. But, yeah, the pregnancy was a lot. Like, I was going through a lot, so I knew that I needed to do something. I hadn't put on anything before, ever, but I knew. And my ob, she was like, it's safe. Like, I was at a point in my pregnancy, like, maybe halfway. I don't remember for sure, but she told me that it was like, we had a conversation, and I felt okay about doing it. And, I mean, you can, like, donate your breast milk. I just donated, like, 530 ounces of breast milk.
- [32:55]
B
Amazing.
- [32:55]
A
To babies.
- [32:57]
B
Yeah.
- [32:58]
A
And, like, you can breastfeed on it and still donate it, so I felt like it was okay. And I just knew that I could not get through the pregnancy without being on that. Like, I was very, very emotional.
- [33:14]
B
I've had friends, like, very close personal friends that went through really bad postpartum experiences. So then for their second child, their OB put them on.
- [33:21]
A
Yeah.
- [33:22]
B
While they're pregnant just to kind of help them through that process. And it was, like, night and day difference.
- [33:27]
A
Yeah. Oh, I don't. I don't even know how I was, like, functioning before like, it has helped. I mean, I think I'll be on it for the rest of my life. Like, I just need it.
- [33:37]
B
No. And there's nothing wrong with that. And I love that you talk about that because it's just so important nowadays with mental health. And I feel like people have some sort of shame around it. Some people's brain. No one's brain is wired perfectly. Let's just be honest about that. But I think also that with being a working mom and then going through so many traumatic events and life changes, it's. It helps you.
- [34:04]
A
Yeah, no, it has helped so much. I just started talking about it. So it's been a while since I've been on it, but I feel like that's kind of how I am with things I haven't done before, like even drinking or anything. I'm like, give me time to figure it out and then I'll share.
- [34:16]
B
Yeah.
- [34:17]
A
So it was just in the last couple weeks that I talked about that. But I mean, even just to that, like, so many people relate and it's just nice to hear other people's experiences and.
- [34:25]
B
Good.
- [34:25]
A
Connect with them.
- [34:26]
B
Good. What's your day to day life right now? Being here now? What's like your new.
- [34:31]
A
I was on my beach walk era, but everything has been so crazy. So I haven't done been doing my beach walks, but usually I'll go on a walk I love having. It's like you have. I don't even want to say less is more because I'm literally in a house by the beach. But it's like a smaller space. I really simplified. Yeah. And I'm like living a more simple life, even though I'm doing that in this, like, extravagant home. But it's just a lot like. I mean, I didn't even have really anything super crazy in Salt Lake, but it's just definitely slow pace. Like, I have the doors open. I love to, like, color with my girls or do play DOH or crafts or anything. Just sit outside, go outside, read a book, walk up to the park. Like, walk up and get a smoothie. It's just like exactly where I want to be and what I want to be doing. So that's.
- [35:19]
B
And we talked about that, about how we eventually want to, you know, come back this way. But the simpler and obviously I say that, like, people realize how expensive it is to live by the beach. Okay. Yeah, I. It's simple in the sense of you have to have money to be able to afford it, which that's just this day and age. But I do feel like in places like Utah and Arizona, there's so much less to do.
- [35:48]
A
Yeah.
- [35:48]
B
That you feel like you need a big house and a fancy backyard and all these crazy things for your kids and toys. Whereas when you're by the beach, I would be so happy in a house like, a quarter of the size.
- [36:01]
A
Yeah.
- [36:02]
B
Give them my golf cart to go to the beach. My kids don't need all this crazy. I don't need a pool like that. Simple life is so healing.
- [36:11]
A
Yeah. No, I've. It's been so nice. And again, it's. It's simple. Like how you're saying that that's simple, but it's not simple because you have to be able to afford it. But I'm so thankful every day that with everything I've been through that I have been able to afford just to keep going and to be able to work, like, as little or much as I want, and to be able to buy this home and even just to be able to get divorced. Like, I know so many women can't because they're stuck financially.
- [36:35]
B
Yeah.
- [36:35]
A
And, like, I think about that all the time because I can't imagine if that's the position that I was in, because you would just feel, like, so hopeless, which is really sad. But I think about that so much and just how fortunate I am to have been able to do that.
- [36:51]
B
Oh, yeah.
- [36:51]
A
And then to be able to, like, move and be in this new place in such a time where I need to be somewhere different.
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B
Yeah.
- [37:01]
A
Yeah.
- [37:02]
B
So your video. I. I don't know when it was last week where you're, like, things I'm looking for in my next relationship. So are we considering dating?
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A
We really are not.
- [37:15]
B
We are not considering. Close.
- [37:17]
A
No. It's a weird thing to think of. Well, I guess anybody who's been married for, like, a long time, but especially when you've been with someone, I mean, it's the same for you because you got married at, what, 21?
- [37:26]
B
Yeah.
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A
Like, you just have not kissed a different person or, like, anything like that.
- [37:32]
B
Yeah.
- [37:32]
A
In. Well, I mean, some people probably have. Probably have done.
- [37:36]
B
Yeah.
- [37:36]
A
You know, everyone's relationship is, like, different, but the average person, it's like they haven't had to even think about anything like that. And I feel like I just have no room for that currently. My plate is already so full, and I just have no idea what I would even. I know some things I don't want, but I don't really feel like I would know exactly what I really do want in A partner. Like, I can't even picture that.
- [37:58]
B
I also think, like, there's a difference between seriously dating and kind of, like, casually dating.
- [38:03]
A
Yeah, I would maybe casually.
- [38:05]
B
Yeah. I feel like in the future, when you're, like, heal. Feeling more healed and.
- [38:11]
A
Yeah.
- [38:11]
B
Stable. You guys have your routine down. I feel like that's when you could kind of get your feet wet. Of.
- [38:16]
A
Yeah.
- [38:16]
B
What it feels like to date other people, but doesn't need to be like, hey, so this is what I'm looking for.
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A
Yeah.
- [38:21]
B
You know, like, no.
- [38:22]
A
Yeah. I don't think I would be ready to look for something serious for a long time.
- [38:25]
B
Yeah.
- [38:25]
A
And even casual, I'm like, honestly, the thought of that scares the crap out of me. Men are just so scary. I don't think I can do it. But just, like, imagine being out to dinner with, like, a man that you don't know. Yeah.
- [38:36]
B
No, it's weird.
- [38:36]
A
That is actually the scariest thing I've ever heard. I haven't even thought of that. And now I'm scared.
- [38:41]
B
You're, like, sitting.
- [38:41]
A
I'm not.
- [38:41]
B
Yeah, no, you're, like, legitimately sitting with a stranger or like, when they, like.
- [38:45]
A
If they picked you up or that's.
- [38:46]
B
In your car at night time. Guys, I'm not doing random man knocks on your door that you've never met to pick you up.
- [38:53]
A
I actually haven't even thought about this. I'm not doing it, you guys.
- [38:57]
B
Yeah, that's weird.
- [38:57]
A
I will not.
- [38:58]
B
Like, you can meet someone, but it needs to be in a public setting.
- [39:01]
A
Yes. But even that if I was sitting at a table. What if we were, like, in a corner booth and he's got me, like, in the back and I don't know him. It's a stranger.
- [39:08]
B
Higher security.
- [39:09]
A
Oh, okay. Yeah. But I'm just not gonna do it.
- [39:11]
B
I'm, like, there in the corner. Hey, I'm here. Like, we can send Scott. Scott can go with you.
- [39:18]
A
Perfect.
- [39:19]
B
We love the gays. Yeah. He can go on a date. And standing in the corner, he's like, you good? You good over there, girl? Oh, my God. Okay, so what's next? What's on the horizon for you?
- [39:32]
A
I feel like it's hard to know because I just don't know, like, where I'm at or where I'm gonna be. I would love to be traveling a little bit more, but it's also important to me to, like, be with my kids. But I think I. I genuinely feel like I'm just relearning how to live, like, so many different things that I've been through. Like, I know I keep saying it, like, on different things, but I'm like, genuinely. My soul is, like, dead. So I'm trying to slowly figure out how to come back to life. So I don't want to overwhelm myself with, like, too many goals. I feel like I'm not really a goal person, because then when I don't achieve it, I'm, like, disappointed. Disappointed or not even just that, but I'm like, why did you even. You're stupid to say that you made a goal and didn't get it. Like, I don't like that. So I feel like I don't have a ton that I'm, like, really being aspirational for at the moment, because I kind of just want to see where life takes me for a little bit. I've done so much already, even just, like, different makeup collabs and things like that. Like, I've just done so many projects.
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B
Oh, I remember the. Yeah, I remember all your collabs.
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A
Yeah, I've done, yeah, like, so many fun projects. So it's kind of nice to just.
- [40:37]
B
Sit back a little bit.
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A
Like, sit back and do a little bit less for now. But I feel like I have been posting a lot also.
- [40:46]
B
Yeah. But I love it. I love it that you're just, like, kind of casually, like, answering questions and, like, making TikToks. And it really is, like, no effort, but it does so well because people just love this side of you.
- [40:56]
A
And anytime that I film, like, a morning routine with all the angles and the music and whatever, it's like, does shit. And then I just answer a question, and it does so much better. And I know, okay, this is easier for me. And this is what you guys. Yeah, it's easier for me. I'd rather do this for sure. It's faster.
- [41:11]
B
Okay, So I love it. What. What fills your cup? I want to know what fills your cup. When you're having a rough day or you're not doing well. What makes you feel better?
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A
I feel like if I was actually having a rough day, I need to be alone.
- [41:23]
B
Okay.
- [41:24]
A
So having alone the same.
- [41:27]
B
I'm the same way I would. I want to feel isolated a little bit.
- [41:30]
A
Yeah. Well, I even just feel like, to be, like, in the quiet. Like, if I was having a rough day and had stuff to do, then usually I would, like, go up to my room. But just filling my cup and trying to do things for myself on, like, a daily basis. I feel like it's always just, like, the Little moments of my day that I'm like, okay, I'm going to do a little stretching video on YouTube. Like a. Just do a little stretch. Feel better. Okay. I'm going to go on a walk or. Oh, I'm going to make my favorite smoothie for lunch. Like, it. Where I'm at right now is it's literally just those tiny moments and trying to, like, fit them in my day and trying to have at least one per day. I feel like I have more than that because I need it.
- [42:07]
B
Yeah.
- [42:07]
A
I need my smoothie.
- [42:08]
B
Yeah.
- [42:09]
A
I need my. What's your walk? Chocolate peanut butter protein shake. Chocolate peanut butter.
- [42:14]
B
Okay.
- [42:14]
A
Protein flavor. Protein powder flavor from where? I think the brand is kos.
- [42:19]
B
Okay.
- [42:20]
A
It's so good. I love it. Or I have the truvani one and then just some banana and some pea milk.
- [42:26]
B
Yum.
- [42:27]
A
And it's just so good. Okay, so that is that, like, that's a little treat, even though it's not that fancy, but okay. Like, little moments like that.
- [42:35]
B
I'm a hoe for a smoothie, so.
- [42:37]
A
Yeah. No, that's kind of how I fill my cup these days. I feel like it's just, like, little things.
- [42:43]
B
Okay. How are your two oldest adjusting to baby sis?
- [42:48]
A
They love her, and it is so, so sweet. I didn't ever know if I would have a third for sure. Like, after my second, I was like, this is a lot.
- [42:55]
B
Yeah.
- [42:56]
A
To be two children. Yeah. It was crazy. So I didn't know if I would just ever be here and get like. This episode is brought to you by Allstate. Some people just know they could save hundreds on car insurance by checking Allstate first. Like, you know, to check the date of the big game first before you accidentally buy tickets on your 20th wedding anniversary and have to spend the next 20 years of your marriage making up for it. Yeah. Checking first is smart. So check Allstate first for a quote that could save you hundreds. You're in good hands with Allstate Savings. Vary terms apply. Allstate Fire and Casualty Insurance Company and Affiliates, Northbrook, Illinois, get to see this. So they've been so sweet, and it's so fun now that she's a little bit bigger. Like, she loves to just sit and watch them. And I can't wait for her to get even bigger. She's, like, almost crawling. She's just started getting up on her knees, and I'm like, oh, my gosh. When she can crawl and, like, she's be gone. Yeah, she's gonna be. And keep up with them, she's gonna want to be just playing them with them all the time. So it's so nice because I can just plop her down in front of them, like, doing. Playing with their toys or whatever, and she'll just sit and watch them, and I'm like, hey, I'm gonna be right here. I have to, like, edit this video or whatever. But she just loves them, and they love her, and it's so sweet, and it's really cute because my first daughter did not like babies. Like, she was not obsessed. And so she never was like, oh, the sweet. Well, she is the sweetest big sister. But, like, when they were younger and we were adjusting to having a new baby home, she was not, like, really. Not super, super into it.
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B
Yeah.
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A
And so then. But now she's older, and so she's just. And she's the sweetest ever, but she understands a little bit more. They're only two years apart, so she was two when I brought my second home. But just seeing both of them, like, love on her, I didn't really see that the first time. And so it's really, really sweet to see, and it's so special.
- [44:45]
B
Well, and you. We talked about how your oldest is very similar to Ziggy, like, just very kind and loving and nurturing.
- [44:53]
A
Yes.
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B
So which is why she's such a great big sister, because, you know, she's the oldest and so sweet and just wants to protect them.
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A
Yeah.
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B
You know, it's the best.
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A
Yeah.
- [45:04]
B
I can't. Don't make me have another kid. Okay. I can't.
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A
I know three is really hard, but two is really fun. I will. I leave the house less now. That's another reason that I love being in California, even having three kids, because I don't have to load them up in the car to go everywhere that I can just go on a walk and I can go get, like, to a coffee shop. I can go to the beach, the park, whatever. And I don't have to put them in the car.
- [45:26]
B
Do you use a double stroller?
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A
I do. Yeah. I love my Zoe double stroller.
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B
Okay.
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A
So now I just usually will have the baby in, like, a carrier. It sucks when you have to have the devil stroller and the carrier.
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B
That's a workout.
- [45:38]
A
Well, that and the duna. The car seat.
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B
Yeah.
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A
If I'm ever, like, out somewhere and have to do it like that for some reason, but I'm like, I don't have enough hands for this. So then I'll have one of the other girls push it but then I have a double. But then it's, like, empty.
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B
Yeah.
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A
So I'm like, could one of you not have, like, walked?
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B
Right.
- [45:52]
A
Like, we got to simplify this. But that's why I love being here in a place that's, like, kind of walkable.
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B
Oh, for sure.
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A
Yeah.
- [45:58]
B
So when you kind of talking about, like, work, life balance as a mom with this new situation now that you guys are separated, do you think you have a healthy routine of, like, when he's with the kids, you try to get work done?
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A
Yeah, I'm definitely always saving as much as I can to get done, like, when I do have that time by myself. So, yeah, I'm trying to, like, cram. Cram it all in when I can. I mean, I definitely have a good amount of time to do things. Yeah. I definitely try and get as much done as I can when I'm by myself.
- [46:33]
B
Yeah.
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A
Because that's.
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B
Yeah.
- [46:35]
A
And then when they're weird for me, I mean, if. Yeah. It's like, better for everybody because they get my full attention, so. Sure.
- [46:40]
B
Yeah. And I mean, that's. That's the balance of it all, is trying not to. It's so hard, too, because with our job, it's like our faces in a screen. And my biggest fear is I never want my kids to think that I'm putting that first because they. They understand it's work, but I want them to think I'm just, like, scrolling on my phone over playing with them.
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A
Yeah. So I know. I feel I have that thought so much. But then I'm like, I'm ordering groceries, I'm doing emails, I'm editing this thing. Like, I'm doing what I'm doing. Yeah.
- [47:09]
B
To.
- [47:11]
A
To try and help. You have, like, the best life ever. I'm sorry that I'm on my phone.
- [47:14]
B
No, I need to do it. Okay. So speaking of travel, where's the destination? That's a dream that you haven't been.
- [47:21]
A
Let me think. I always wanted to go to Morocco before I had kids, and I never did, so I feel like that would be fun.
- [47:28]
B
Morocco would be so cool.
- [47:29]
A
Or. I'm trying to think. There's, like, so many little.
- [47:33]
B
There's like, small.
- [47:34]
A
Like Mallorca. I don't know if I'm even saying that. Right. Somewhere like that.
- [47:38]
B
I don't even know where that is.
- [47:40]
A
It's like. But I think it's by Spain maybe. I see people.
- [47:42]
B
Okay. I mean, you talk about it and post. You guys went everywhere.
- [47:46]
A
Yeah, we traveled the world for, like, it was almost Three years straight, I think.
- [47:49]
B
Damn.
- [47:50]
A
Literally gone all the time. At least like two or three weeks a month. I feel like, from my memory, what.
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B
What's been one of your favorites?
- [47:59]
A
Bora Bora is always one of my favorites because it's just such a cool, crazy place to go. I had a lot of fun in Puerto Rico. I feel like that's one, like, a random one that I don't bring up that much, but that trip was just super fun. And where else? I love the Bahamas. I've been back there a couple times.
- [48:15]
B
Yeah, I'm terrified to get bit by a shark there, though.
- [48:17]
A
Yeah, no, same.
- [48:18]
B
Which doesn't.
- [48:19]
A
But I keep going back.
- [48:20]
B
I'm. I grew up in the ocean and surfing, and so I've never been afraid of the ocean or sharks, but the stories I hear about people, like, snorkeling there and how they don't have first aid kits and stuff, I'm like, yeah.
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A
Kind of scary.
- [48:32]
B
Yeah.
- [48:33]
A
I just like to be able to see in the water.
- [48:34]
B
Right. Clear. So I like to go there.
- [48:36]
A
That's why I went by the beach. Bora Bora, too.
- [48:37]
B
Yeah, Bora Bora. I went with Tart in March. That was crazy.
- [48:42]
A
Yeah. I went in. I don't even know what year it would have been.
- [48:45]
B
Was that with tar?
- [48:46]
A
Yeah, with tart. Like 2016.
- [48:48]
B
Was that the one with Whitney? Is that the trip with Whitney Simmons?
- [48:51]
A
Maybe?
- [48:52]
B
Because she went on a Tarte Bora Bora trip.
- [48:55]
A
They, like, did a few of them back then.
- [48:56]
B
I was gonna say that was like the OG YouTuber days.
- [48:59]
A
Yeah.
- [48:59]
B
Yeah. Because she was, like, with Manny. Laura Lee.
- [49:03]
A
Oh, wait. Yes. Yeah.
- [49:04]
B
All of those, I think.
- [49:05]
A
Yeah. I just didn't know her then.
- [49:06]
B
Wow. Yeah. That was like, my whole livelihood. And now, like, so many of them being my friends. Like Jacqueline Hill, Manny Mua.
- [49:14]
A
Yeah.
- [49:14]
B
I'm like, this is so weird.
- [49:16]
A
It's so weird. It is crazy. Yeah.
- [49:18]
B
Isn't it nuts?
- [49:19]
A
Yeah.
- [49:19]
B
It's also. Do you feel the same? Because I know a lot of them will, like, call me or talk to me about advice on Tick tock and stuff. It's so interesting because I feel like a lot of big Tick Tockers idolized so many YouTubers, like, our whole life. Like, that's what we grew up watching. And now Tik Tok's a completely different platform.
- [49:41]
A
Yeah.
- [49:41]
B
Like, so much less editing. It's not a production. It's more like raw in the moment. Is that weird or do you like that?
- [49:50]
A
I like it because it's. It's easier Which I'm, like, scared to say that word almost, because my sister is kind of more so from that, like, younger generation and even, like, the younger generation of creators. And we got in this really big fight one time at Christmas because this. Yes. I was trying to explain to her, like, just how different it was, like, back in my time. And I was like, oh, that's kind of nice. It's, like, easier now. And she just. We were just fighting, and she was saying, like, it's not easy, blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, I know. I'm referring to, like, you sitting, making. Making a video in your room, just talking. That takes less time and less effort than, like, the really high production stuff that I used to do.
- [50:32]
B
Totally.
- [50:33]
A
But these view. These videos are now what's really popular.
- [50:35]
B
Yeah.
- [50:35]
A
Getting views. So I was like, it's nice. That's like, that's nice, but it's a little easier. And we got in a big fight because she was like, it's not easy. And I'm like, no, you're just not understanding how much you used to. How much everything used to be a production.
- [50:46]
B
Yes. I also think it's a different type of easy and hard. Like, Jacqueline and I had this conversation where she was like, I. It was a big production or whatever, but I'd upload once a week.
- [50:57]
A
Yeah.
- [50:57]
B
She's like, TikTok algorithm pushes three to five videos a day. Yeah.
- [51:00]
A
It's like, so many a day. Yeah.
- [51:02]
B
Which is nutty. And people don't realize that. Especially if you're like a long form vlogger. All the editing and you're like, oh, my God. That's why I was like. I was editing in the car. I made Scott drive because I was like, I gotta get this done.
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A
Yeah.
- [51:14]
B
I said, we're going to the queen's house. I gotta get my work out of the way.
- [51:16]
A
You do. You gotta get it done. I know, because I yapped your ear off forever.
- [51:19]
B
Before you started recording, before we started.
- [51:21]
A
I was like, we also have to talk about this, this, and this after.
- [51:23]
B
No, Love it.
- [51:24]
A
You'll be here all day.
- [51:25]
B
Okay. Well, I feel like that's it. I feel like we covered. And people. People love you. And I think everyone always wants more and they want to know more, but I appreciate how open and honest you were and what you chose to share, because at the end of the day, it is your business and your family's business. And I think, again, you've just gone about it in such a classy way and also protected your kids about this whole situation, which is number one. So thank you for being here. Also, thank you for inviting us in your amazing home.
- [51:55]
A
I know. Thank you for coming.
- [51:56]
B
We're doing a tour after.
- [51:57]
A
I know.
- [51:59]
B
Okay, well, thank you for being here.
- [52:01]
A
Thank you.
- [52:01]
B
Cheers, guys. Bye.