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Hi.
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I'm gonna, I'm gonna adopt that name for you now.
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Perfect. Do you remember when we first met Unwell Miami?
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Yep. We were just talking about this because she's in the most stunning Chanel top, which no surprise because she's a fashion icon. But I went up to her at the Miami event because your husband Andrew was performing. It was so fun. And she was in this little two piece pink striped, maybe twill.
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Yeah, it was like, it's like a little knit moment. And I, I got a little body chain. So you situation.
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It was literally, I. I was so gagged and it was dark out, it was nighttime. And I was like, that is the best outfit I've ever seen. And you were like, I just went over to the Chanel in Miami and bought it. You should go look. I said, you're a bad influence.
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They took it off the mannequin for me, which they don't do. And the lady was like, she said, oh, I'll go check. And I only asked because I thought she's say no. And then she came back, she said, they're all stripping the mannequin.
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I'm telling you, I gotta get it now. No, that outfit was so worth it. Like, that is one that you could archive for your kids or something. It's so good. And then when you told me that, I said, oh, you're gonna be a bad influence. Like we could never go shopping together.
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, no. Well, the good news about me is I don't really go. I never go in la. I don't shop when I'm at home.
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Yeah.
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I only go when I'm, like, traveling, doing something fun. Like on my honeymoon, I'll go. Or when we're in Miami, I went just for, like, something to do. But I actually don't really shop ever.
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I'm the same at home. I'm the same. I'll do, like, an occasion. Occasional online shopping if I need something for, like, a trip or something.
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Yeah.
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But I so much more enjoy going on a trip in person. Like, I love shopping in Paris.
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Yeah, same.
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And then I tell myself, like, it's fine because you get the tax back.
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It's cheaper. Yeah.
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Yeah, same. Speaking of honeymoon, Congratulations. You're married.
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Yay.
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How was everything? It looked incredible.
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It was amazing. It was. I mean, everybody says, like, oh, wedding's the best day of your life. I was always like, it's a day. I. Andrew and I have always said, like, we weren't that jazzed on the idea of having this big wedding because, like, for a lot of people, it's the only day of your life where you are the center of attention. Everybody's looking at you like, it's the only day where it's all about you. Whereas, like, we both kind of get that at our respective job. So it's not like we had it built up in our heads. It's like, it has to be the best day of our lives. But it was amazing. Like, it really was. I really underestimated just how great it would be to have every single person that we care about in the world in one place, and they're all there at the same time, which will be probably the only time in our life that that's gonna happen. So that part was definitely amazing. And, yeah, we had the best weekend.
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And it was Santorini.
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Yeah.
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That's one of my dream destination places. I still haven't been beautiful. And when I saw you get married there, I was like, oh, my God.
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Oh, you have to go. But maybe wait till kitties are a little bit older because it's a lot of stairs.
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Yeah. Also, I. I refuse. Like, even we're so lucky. Like, we have family that has a flat in Paris that we go to. Kids really want to go. Like, my son's been asking, like, I want to see the Eiffel Tower, Mommy. I'm not ready for the time change commitment either with them. Like, that's a lot for a six and a four year old to try to sleep on a flight, adjust to the time change. Like it's a lot.
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Yeah. I will say though, have they been to Europe at all? No, I will say it's a different culture in terms of like, I always say this when like I, the way I was raised in England, kind of. I grew up going to Spain every summer. My parents have a place there. It's like, it's, it's very normal. Everybody brings the kids out at night. They bring them out. You know, people sit down to eat dinner at like 10, 11pm Kids are in there, kitties are running around midnight at night and then they just knock out in the stroller. They knock out on a chair somewhere and it's completely normal. And the parents will just like stay in the restaurant, they'll stay in the bar and then everybody takes a nap at 4pm until like 8, 7. It's a completely different sleep schedule and it's a completely different culture. And so I always say like, Europe's really, really kid friendly because it's a way different culture in terms of like you see so many mommies breastfeeding in the restaurant. Like, it's just, it's so nice like that for kids. And I always say like, they don't. Even if you, you don't have to change your sleep schedule the same because literally they'll be out until in the middle. Yeah. And like it's normal and they don't have to. Like, even Andrew and I, when we travel to Europe, most of the time we don't even bother trying to adjust that much because we kind of have to adjust when you go back. So it's like I don't care if I sleep till noon and then I'm up till like two in the morning. Like.
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Okay, that's good to hear.
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Yeah.
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Because I feel like they're at the age where I, I want to be able to give them more experiences and show them places outside of America because I'm like, this isn't all you have to look forward to. Trust me, there's a lot.
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Oh yeah.
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Out there. So. Okay. Speaking of growing up in Europe, where are you technically from?
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I'm from Manchester. Like Manchester.
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Okay. How was your childhood?
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Great. Loved it.
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Normal.
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Yeah. Yeah. If I could, I would go back to England tomorrow. It's like, it's just, it's, if you, if you've ever seen the movie the Holiday, like. Yeah, that is where I was raised. Like that type of environment, like little English cottages and like everybody gets eggs from the Neighbor. Every morning, like my mum literally walks across the street and just like takes eggs that the neighbor leaves out for everybody. And we get the milk delivered by the milkman at the end of the road every morning and he just brings it from his farm around the street. And everybody is just like, it's such a community out there and you know, it's just like so quiet and it was great. I loved it. I mean, I really couldn't have asked for a better childhood. Like my parents were amazing. I had a stay at home mom. She did everything. Yeah.
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What did you want to be when you grew up?
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I mean, when I was really little, I wanted to make clothes.
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Yeah.
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Like I used to change my outfit 100 times a day.
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That's Stevie right now, my daughter.
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Oh yeah, yeah.
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Like the other day I said, I was like, baby, I love you so much, but this is your sixth dress of the day. Like mommy has to do all this laundry.
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Oh, I used to get in so much trouble. Yeah.
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So literally yesterday we had a lesson on hanging our dresses back up on the hanger. But I love it cuz she's like experimenting and like being creative and finding her own style. So I'm trying not to hinder that. But that reminds me a lot of my daughter.
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That was literally me change a million times a day, drawing dresses in my little coloring books and all that. Like, that was what I loved. And then I feel like when I got to like 12, the Victoria's Secret fashion show was like everything, everybody. And all of a sudden it was like, I want to do that. So imagine how insufferable I became when I got approached to be a model when I was like 15.
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Yeah.
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And yeah. So then after I started modeling, obviously I wanted to be Candice Wanna pole. Never didn't really get that far, but yeah. And then.
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And is that when you, when did you start social media?
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I started. I mean I always had an Instagram, you know, like, yeah, everybody does. But I started posting videos in 2021.
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Okay.
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My first viral video. Yeah. Was in February 2021. And then modeling was like dead because of COVID I had basically been unemployed for a year. It was not an essential job. It wasn't. You know, I basically sat around at home for a year just like running out of money. And then as things started to open up again, clients started asking, hey, does anybody have a tick tock? Maybe we're going to try running videos on them. Maybe we'll try and do that. And I had all this free time and then when I had my first private video was face tuning Andrew' forehead bigger until he noticed it's actually a really funny video.
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I was expecting, like, you like, making a joke from scrap?
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No, because in the beginning, like, I didn't know that that's what my content was going to be.
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Totally.
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Then my second follow video was also something really dumb. And then Andrew at the time was like, you should try posting every single day. You should try getting Tik Tok followers because you're clearly funny at least and see if you can, like, drum up some modeling work that way. And I was like, yeah, you're right. I decided to stop posting every single day. I toyed around with, like, tons of different types of posting and like, you know, dancing, which I was never gonna be doing that.
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Oh, yeah, well, we're doing a dance after this. It's very simple because I also don't dance. I was like, scott, we need to find a funny Tick Tock to do. And it's literally like, up, down, to the side. I said, I can do that.
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Oh, yeah. Perfect. Yeah, yeah. But I. Oh, my.
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Like the Charlie d' Amelios at the time, that's how I felt when I download Tick Tock. I said, I can't shake my ass out the.
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I cannot shake ass.
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Yeah.
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And then my first sewing video I posted, I started with like, thrift flips, because I was already doing that for myself. I didn't have any money, and so I would go to the thrift store and find something. And I taught myself to sew because I needed a bikini for a modeling casting. And even back then I was like, I'm not paying 100 for a freaking bikini. Like, that's true. I. I decided in my. We had little warped mind that it was going to be better if I bought a sewing machine on Amazon that was like 30 bucks. And I taught myself how to make bikinis because in my brain I was like, oh, then I can make 100 bikinis if I want. Which, spoiler alert, bikinis are actually insanely hard to make. And to this day, I can't make, like, a decent bikini.
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Yeah. I was going to say there's actually a lot of detail.
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Really hard. Yeah. So I was already doing that for myself. And then I had a thrift flip go viral. And then I started leaning into, like, the fashion side of things. And then when I really started doing that, I sewed that little lily rose jab at the Met Gala Chanel dress.
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I remember that.
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Yeah, that was a big one. And then, yeah, then I That's when I really feel like I found my niche, which took me probably like three or four months. And then, wow, I had a million within like five months, six months.
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I thought that you. I was thinking in my mind, like, oh, she must have grown up sewing or, like, knew how to do it. So this is like a. Just in the last few years thing.
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Yeah, I taught myself. Yeah. Probably when I was like 22. So, yeah. Seven, six. Seven years ago.
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Which is hard to learn stuff like that as an adult.
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Yeah. As an adult, I always tell everyone, like, I have this. I. I see things and I just assume that I can do it and I will just buy the equipment. And like, I. I swear, people tell me all the time, like, you definitely have a ADHD girl, because, like, I will see a hobby and I'm like, I'm gonna do that. Like, all of a sudden, for me right now, it's. It's making Christmas stockings cross stitch and like these people with these extremely elaborate stockings with, like reindeers on them and stuff. And I'm like, oh, I'm going to start cross stitching and then I'll buy all of the stuff and do it one time and then never pick it up again in my life.
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That's true. Like, make all your future kids stockings.
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Yeah, that's what I'm getting. Yes. In July, I'm getting cross stitch Christmas stockings.
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I was going to say you're like, really ahead of the game.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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You have half a year to get that done for Christmas.
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No, but it does. It. It does. It takes them a year to do. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That I don't see. I don't have the patience. That's why I haven't.
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Yeah.
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Purchased myself across.
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See, like, I'm too busy to sit down and do something like that.
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Yeah. Whereas me, like, if I get tunnel vision, I'll sit there and I'll sit there for 10 hours a day until I figure it out. Because, like, if I really want to do it that badly, hence the sewing. And like, this week I decided I wanted this crazy canopy bed that I had seen on Pinterest a million times. And I was like, I'm gonna figure out how to do this. And I did.
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I love that. You just have a very creative mind.
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Yeah.
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Have you all. Was your mom into fashion?
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Yeah, my mom. My mom grew. I grew up. My mom made all my, like, Halloween costumes, dance recital costumes. Like, she always did that stuff. She always love making things. She's not as into it as me because she is handicapped in one of her hands so she can't like do fine motor skills. But yeah, my mom, I was always raised doing it. My mom loves to bake. Like my mom loves all the same things I do.
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Yeah.
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So I feel like it was pretty. She wasn't as into it as I am, but she, it was definitely something that I was like raised around. And she, she, she loves like quilting. She, she'll make like quilts for all beds and stuff and all of our like place mats.
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Oh, so you got that creative side from her.
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Yeah, yeah.
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We got set up. Really? Yeah.
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Like a mutual friend.
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Yeah, exactly. Yeah. He another big like, dj. They're called dubs. They're also from Toronto, where he's from. And I knew one of their girlfriends at the time and she introduced us.
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And were you like, I can't date a dj?
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Yes. Yeah.
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I was gonna say that would intimidate me because I'm not a going out type person. So.
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Yeah, I mean I definitely was. I was, I was three, six at five. Party girl. Meant when I was 24. But like 19 to. Or 18 to 24. Like I was a party girl. I. I was in 1O.
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I love it.
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But I had been. I dated an actor for like two and a half years before I dated Andrew. And after that I was like so scarred. And I had told everyone, like, I just want normal Dr. Was this like a big person?
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I don't need a name. But was it like a good.
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He was like a teen. He's like on Disney.
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Okay.
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But famous enough that girlies would be.
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Yeah.
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A problem. Yeah. So I was like, I wanted somebody very street laced, nine to five normal. And then she showed me Andrew and I was like, DJ No. And she's like, no. Just like, give him a chance. And he wasn't. We always say, like, I don't know if we would even be together if it had not been Covid because we met in June 2020 or July 2020.
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Oh, okay.
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He wasn'. Shows.
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Yeah.
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And still to this day, like, who knows if we would even ended up together if he had been playing shows. Because he travels like four days a week every week and he's never at home and we would have never even had the time to get to know each other and spend that amount of time together for me to become so obsessed with him that I then no longer cared that he was a dj.
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Yeah, sure.
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But yeah, so it was definitely a blessing that he was home enough to. For me to like really get the chance to get to know him without having to worry about the DJ side of things. But yeah, I can't lie. Even. Even when he did start playing shows and things did start opening back up, it was definitely like tough for me in the beginning.
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Oh.
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I was like constantly, constantly being gone, girls everywhere, traveling. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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How was your first date?
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Great. We went to Barique in Venice.
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Okay.
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It was like. We went there because, again, covered. Nothing was open. Our options were, like, very minimal. And then bars were not allowed to be open, so we went to Saddle Ranch because that was allowed to be open because it had food.
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Yeah.
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And a mechanical bowl. And it was open until midnight, where everything else closed at, like, 10. So we went there. We had to order a food. Item. Item. For every drink we ordered. So he ordered, like, a. Like, literally. I'm not kidding. 20 food items that we didn't. We. They ended up just, like, not even bothering bringing it because we were like, we're not gonna eat them. We just want to drink.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Did you ride the mechanical bowl?
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No, it wasn't running.
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Damn it. Like, now they said, we'll serve you food and drinks, but that bowl is not going. Listen, you guys need of here.
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Yeah.
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Literally.
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But, yeah. Our first date was, like, six hours long. And so.
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Did you know right away?
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I wouldn't say. I. I knew that I, like, really liked him. I. I didn't know that he was going to be my husband because, again, like, the DJ thing was.
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Yeah.
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Was tough. And just, like, not knowing if he was in the right place. Like, I was 24. He was 26. It's not like we were, like, trying to, sure, get married and be together forever, but I. We definitely knew. We were, like, obsessed with each other.
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Yeah. And you guys have been together, what, five years?
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Yeah.
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It's been a while.
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Y.
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And you're in a home that you're kind of, like, redoing right now, right?
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Not necessarily. Like, we've had our house, like, three years. We just. Now that I don't have to worry about the wedding because I'm somebody, like, I love to just change up things all the time. And I'll. If I have a room that looks the same too long, I'll just, like, get bored of it.
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I get the same way. I think it's, like, an itch I have where if something's the same, I'm like, I have to redo this entire thing.
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Exactly. And so it's just, like, all the little things have been niggling at me for the last, like, two years that I. I put off because I was, like, doing the wedding stuff.
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Yeah.
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I now have, like, time to do, so I'm like, great. New guest room.
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Yeah. When you were in the midst of planning your wedding, which I know you had a wedding planner.
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Yeah.
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What was your initial vision? Like, what were the Staple things that you're like, I know I need this at my wedding.
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Andrew wanted to be by the ocean. Like, ocean front. That's the only thing he wanted. We originally wanted to do Canada, where he's from, but then we just like, couldn't find a venue that was going to work for. He wanted late night. No, because a lot of wedding venues will have like, hey, the paint's really old, so you can't go above a certain amount of decibels. Hey, the floors are really old, so, like, you can't wear stilettos on the floor. Like all those things. And we say, like, Andrew was way more of a diva about the venue than I was.
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Really?
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Yeah. Because he wanted, like, no rules. No. Like, all he cared about was it being like a huge rave.
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Yeah.
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So that was kind of hard to find. And then we decided on Europe when we started looking at the difference in price between Europe and America.
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Really?
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Oh, yeah. Maybe I should consider the hot tea.
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I do, because I'm playing my vowel renewal for next. Well, let me tell you, wedding, because I gotta hear all this.
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I love seeing how much people. I mean, don't get me wrong, our wedding was not cheap. But like, I keep seeing videos that were like, this was a million dollar wedding. This was in the millions. All winning venue was €3,750.
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You're fucking lying.
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€3,750. It might have gone up since. Because that was two years ago when we booked it.
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I'm looking at places in Malibu right now that are like, they're astronomical, but they're like, no loud. You have to be out by 10. No live band. All these restrictions. And I'm like, I'm sorry, why am I paying an arm and a leg when we have to be wrapped at 10pm? Yeah, we can't have the music that we want. Oh, and then you have to eat like certain food that they serve at the. I'm like, yeah, I want good food. I don't want like the classic.
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B
This is exactly how we ended up getting American. Greece. Because we also. I mean, I know that it's like quite selfish to do destination because then everybody has to travel. But for us, my family's in the uk, his family's in Canada. Everybody was traveling anyway.
[23:04]
A
Okay, that makes sense.
[23:05]
B
We didn't really. There was not there. There wasn't even a place that we could have said, hey, we're doing it at home. That would have been home for everyone else. Like, to be honest, in the grand scheme of things, we only had like, 10 people from LA at the wedding, and everyone else was coming from different places. So that's the only downside. But, I mean, we loved Santorini. We loved Greece. We loved. I mean, it was just so. That's just so much more relaxed on, like, the wedding side of things. And again, like. Like you said, where you get. Bring in your catering, where you bring in the bar, everything you can, it's. It was a lot easier to personalize out there, which is why we ended up doing that.
[23:38]
A
Yeah. How was it? Because, I mean, yes, you had a planner, but do you think it was difficult planning a wedding that was in a different country or that didn't really affect it?
[23:49]
B
I think that our planners were really amazing and hid a lot from us that was going on behind the scenes. They did. Hi. They did end up hiring somebody local to do kind of like the last six months because they were struggling with, like, the language barrier and a lot of places because, like, those little islands in Greece, like, I don't even read their emails. Like, you just go and hey. And they just like, yeah. Knock on the door. And that's how they communicate with each other. So I definitely think that Josiah did a really good job of, like, hiding from us that they were. People were slow to respond and stuff. But, I mean, obviously it ended up beautiful and it all worked out in the end.
[24:22]
A
Yeah.
[24:22]
B
But I definitely think it's. There was a few, like, language communication problems. But, I mean, that's why you get a good planet. Right. So for sure find somebody that lives there, if necessary, to go for them. And, yeah, they really did handle it. But, I mean, I would do it again 100 times over.
[24:38]
A
Okay, good to know. I want to talk about the bridesmaids dresses, because they're just. My jaw was on the floor. That was the craziest thing I've ever seen. Talk me through why you chose to do that. By the way, she made the most insane bridesmaids dresses. If you guys did not see, you need to go look for her bridesmaids at her wedding.
[24:56]
B
Yeah.
[24:57]
A
And they're gorgeous. And also the fact you've only been sewing for six or seven years and you whipped those up insane. You're telling me. I don't believe that you can't sew a bikini after seeing those.
[25:09]
B
I can't. I swear. Now I'm gonna have to make a TikTok prove that I can't make a bikini that good. Yeah, no, I mean, I mostly made them for selfish reasons, which is that I couldn't find bridesmaid dresses that I like.
[25:21]
A
Okay.
[25:22]
B
And the only ones that I could find were like Miss Sohi Couture gowns that cost 10 times more than even my wedding dress.
[25:28]
A
Yeah.
[25:29]
B
Kind of off the table. Yeah. So it was literally just like, hey, I really, I really wanted this really specific aesthetic which are really, it's really popular in the Middle East. I have so many items I, I. To this day, I really want to share my Pinterest board of like all the places that I drew inspiration. But they were. There were so many designers in the Middle east and in the Far east that make these like, really beautiful couture, like beaded corseted gowns that are just like not that popular in the States. Like, the way they approach weddings in the Middle east and the Far east is so different than how they approach it here. And weddings here are much more casual. And so it would, it was just like every time I would find a bridesmaid dress that I wanted, it would be like on the other side of the world. And they didn't ship and they didn't speak English and all that. And so was like, right, great. I guess I'm gonna have to make them.
[26:12]
A
How long did it take you?
[26:14]
B
I started them in January. It took me. I mean, each dress took me between like 20 and 30 hours. But obviously I didn't do it all at once. Like, it was basically whenever I had a free evening, a free Saturday when Andrew was gone, I kind of interspersed it between all my other traveling and all my other stuff and all my other commitments that I had.
[26:31]
A
So it was just insane how they were different but also like so cohesive. Like you literally made your own mini collection. It was so cool and like a special thing to be able to show your kids or like, remember that like, I made those dresses.
[26:47]
B
Oh, we. I will not be showing the kids because my bridesmaids went swimming in their dresses at like 7 in the morning.
[26:53]
A
Oh, they said we're having fun.
[26:55]
B
They said we're getting in the pool.
[26:57]
A
That means you had a good ass wedding.
[26:58]
B
Yeah. So it's like TBD on the dry in the dry cleaners. If they can salvage them.
[27:02]
A
Oh, my God.
[27:04]
B
But I'm so glad. That's like my dream. I wanted everybody to be out until the sunrise and just like, like have so much fun.
[27:09]
A
Good. I love it. Yeah. The tik tok that you made of your dad made me die laughing. I think I commented something like, and then the grandkids will come along. Of of. It was something like your dad dancing and Then he was like, he realizes that I'm no longer his problem anymore.
[27:24]
B
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, my spending. And then wait till he spends it on the grandkids.
[27:29]
A
Yes, yes. That's what I was saying. Cuz I was like, oh, like, I'm such a daddy's girl. I love my dad.
[27:35]
B
Yeah.
[27:35]
A
But oh my God, when my kids were born, he's like, love you, but like, you're. You're brushed under the rug. Like, those kids are his world.
[27:44]
B
Oh, he's excited. He wants to be a granddaddy so bad. He already. Andrew and I, like, went to Disney the other week for the first. Like, Andrew's never been. I've been like once in my life. Like, we are. Yeah. And we were like, obviously, as you do, complaining about how much everything is at Disney. Like the pretzels, everything. And my dad's like, oh, my God. My God. I hated going on. I said, so are you gonna like, not go with your grandkids? I didn't say that. He's like, so excited.
[28:14]
A
That's really cute. Where did you guys honeymoon?
[28:17]
B
We went to the Amalfi coast. We did a few nights in Sicily and we went to the Amalfi coast. We got a little boat. I'm like, we got the smallest, cheapest, quote unquote yacht that we could find that just had two bedrooms and we just put the other one with luggage.
[28:32]
A
Wait, that's cool.
[28:34]
B
It was so it would actually be perfect for you and like the kids. It was so cute. We had a little crew of three people and they just like took us wherever we wanted. We woke up every morning in like a new place.
[28:44]
A
Wait, that's sick. So the whole honeymoon, you're sleeping on that boat?
[28:47]
B
Yeah. Yeah.
[28:49]
A
Whoa.
[28:49]
B
It was amazing. And it was not too expensive. In the end, it ended up. It ended up being the same price as like a bougie five star hotel.
[28:57]
A
Sure. But I mean, like, what an experience.
[29:00]
B
Yeah.
[29:00]
A
It was so cool.
[29:01]
B
It was amazing. We absolutely loved it.
[29:03]
A
And also being able to go to different places but not feeling like you're.
[29:06]
B
Traveling and you don't have to pack the lugg luggage and get everyone to the airport, drop the bags, wait for them to come out the other end, like all that stuff. Like, Andrew travels so much for work and I always tell him any day on vacation that I'm in an airport is not a vacation day for me.
[29:20]
A
No, no.
[29:21]
B
And he's somebody that can't sit still. He wants to see new places all the time. So that was like the best case Scenario for us where I got to rot and just, like, not do anything, but he still got to see a million places.
[29:32]
A
Good. And you. Did you have someone post wedding content for you while you were traveling or did you do that?
[29:39]
B
No. So uploaded everything. We did have a content creator that did the wedding day and the. And the day before. Her name was Yana. She was amazing. So she shot everything. She edited up a bunch of TikToks for me to just, like, upload, but mostly of just, like, the wedding day and the rehearsal dinner. And yeah, other than that, it was only, like, the. On my honeymoon and everything. I was like, uploading everything and.
[30:00]
A
Oh, damn, she's a working girl.
[30:01]
B
Yeah. And the. The whole. Because we launched on Vogue with, like.
[30:05]
A
Collab, which was insane.
[30:08]
B
Dude, it was crazy.
[30:09]
A
When. When you got that call, were you like.
[30:12]
B
It was so bizarre and surreal because I have heard so many tall tales of how people got their weddings into Vogue and it costs so much money and you have to do this and, like, yes. These hoops that you supposedly have to jump through. We. I literally, as my manager, because I don't have a publicist, I literally just asked my manager. I'm like, hey, can you reach out to them? Because we, like, had an email for. Because I've been. I've done something with Vogue before when I, like, cut up an outfit to edit the product show years ago. So we still have the email. Like, hey, they're gonna say no, because, you know, I'm not that big in the grand scheme of things. I'm not like, the wedding's not millions of dollars. We're like, hey, let's just send an email. The worst they're gonna say is no. But, like, why don't we just ask if they would be down to cover it? And I was just assuming it would be like, a quick no. They literally got back same day being, like, asked us a few details about my dress and about the venue and everything, which we obviously sent back, and they literally came back within 24 hours. And they're like, we would love to. We want. Want four tick tocks. Like, Vogue exclusive. I was just like, oh, okay, perfect. That was easy.
[31:12]
A
It's interesting because I've heard the same with, like, Vogue, Architectural Digest, Forbes. Like, you hear all these things of, like, oh, they paid to be in it. And then you talk to people behind the scenes. You're like, now, it's so weird how in this industry you hear, yeah, yeah.
[31:28]
B
And I especially think for Vogue, it was. They want something new to write about. Right. And so for me, it was like the bridesmaid dresses being DIYs was something interesting that they could write about us doing, you know, having Natasha Bedingfield. Another thing that we. Again, which. Which was sick.
[31:46]
A
No. Do you want to hear a sin?
[31:48]
B
Uh huh.
[31:48]
A
It's about this man right here. We're listening because he'll drive and I'll get ready in the car sometimes. And so I am playing my music and Natasha comes on. On Iconic. Right?
[31:59]
B
Yeah.
[31:59]
A
I'm. How old are you?
[32:00]
B
29.
[32:01]
A
Okay. I'm 30.
[32:01]
B
So we're.
[32:02]
A
We grew up in the same type of area.
[32:03]
B
Yeah.
[32:04]
A
And I. He goes, natasha, who. Who is this? And I said, what?
[32:10]
B
Voice of a generation.
[32:12]
A
No, it's. Even when Alex teased that Kid Cudi was going on the podcast, he thought it was Kelly Clarkson's album. He doesn't know kid. And I said, what the are you talking about?
[32:21]
B
Yeah.
[32:21]
A
So yeah, she. He was born in the years 2000.
[32:25]
B
You were gonna say 21. Like you're old enough to know Natasha.
[32:29]
A
I know. So anyways, she performed at her wedding.
[32:33]
B
Yeah, she did. Yeah.
[32:34]
A
That's not insane.
[32:35]
B
It was best 15 minutes of my.
[32:37]
A
No, when, When I saw that video, I said, when you guys were screaming and oh my God, it was the best. How did that happen?
[32:44]
B
Andrew and I, you know, we did. We knew we wanted somebody fun to perform because Andrew, he told everyone, I want the night off. I'm not DJing. Which obviously he DJed the entire thing. Yeah. Oh. The entire after party. We flew somebody in from Australia. He was amazing. Barely touched the decks because. But yeah, we knew we wanted somebody to perform. We really wanted nostalgia. We wanted like hits that everybody would know, but we knew that we. We couldn't afford like anything. Like, I, I mean, you don't really get bigger than Natasha Bedingfield for what we wanted. Like, she was absolutely perfect. But like I said, had originally wanted S club. I love S club. Andrew decided that nobody would. Not enough people would know it. And I said, excuse me, I'm not going to lie.
[33:25]
A
I don't know who that is.
[33:26]
B
Well, you're just proving his point. But yeah, you know what?
[33:30]
A
I'm going to do some research for you.
[33:32]
B
You'll know it. They were huge in the uk, but there's seven of them. That's the problem is. So.
[33:36]
A
Oh, is it like a girl band?
[33:38]
B
No, they were like a mixed boys and girls. Yeah.
[33:41]
A
Oh, period. Okay.
[33:42]
B
But yeah, it was. And then obviously getting somebody to agree to come to Tangerine was like, not that Easy.
[33:47]
A
Yeah.
[33:47]
B
But Natasha and Andrew actually have the same agent, so he, yeah, just like asked his agent like, hey, can you just ask like again? We just assumed it would be an L. But yeah, she said yes. She, she knew a lot of luxury. She knew me and yeah, she was like excited to do it.
[34:03]
A
Oh, I love it. That's so fun. Yeah, I've, I've heard like, I've had friends that like family friends, not even in the industry that. Because there's so many different like business endeavors in LA when you are here, like it's crazy how much money there is. But anyways, a friend of mine went to a part, a 50th birthday party for someone that worked in the marijuana industry and was like filthy fucking rich and he paid. Was it half a million or a million for like a 2 or a 15 minute performance from Snoop Dogg? Oh yeah, because he works in weed and so I loved it and it was a surprise and like all the drinks were named after his songs and stuff. But I was like that much money for that short of a weekend.
[34:47]
B
Oh, private. Like Andrew's private rate for birthdays, weddings, that is double his regular.
[34:55]
A
That's honestly iconic though, to be able to walk in, walk out and be like Cha Ching.
[34:59]
B
Exactly. Yeah. I love when he plays weddings. I'm like, great. Normally I get to go too. We're actually going to one in a couple weeks in south of France.
[35:05]
A
I'm like, oh, I am. I've never been to south of France, but it's on my bucket list because one of my friends actually just moved there and the photos that she has shown me is out of this world.
[35:18]
B
Oh yeah, girl, just start saving now. It's expensive. Oh my God. Yeah.
[35:22]
A
I mean I got kids tuition to pay now. Like that's what people do here in la. They pay for their kids to go to preschool. I said, what is this, usc?
[35:31]
B
Yeah.
[35:31]
A
Like, it's crazy. Speaking of, you guys want to have kids?
[35:35]
B
Yeah, yeah.
[35:37]
A
Later though.
[35:38]
B
No, I mean, not really.
[35:40]
A
Okay.
[35:40]
B
I mean, not pregnant yet, but hopefully soon.
[35:43]
A
Just let me know so I can come babysit for you. I love babies.
[35:47]
B
I know, it's. It's definitely scary, you know, just like we have such a nomadic lifestyle at the moment.
[35:52]
A
Yeah.
[35:52]
B
But I mean, it's definitely something that we want and I'm 30 in a couple months, so.
[35:57]
A
You'll figure it out. Honestly, like I, I feel like this whole week I've done interviews, giving advice on parenting. It's actually really funny, but I've said this multiple times. In my previous episode. Episodes. When you have kids because you live such a crazy life, just integrate your kids into your already existing life and not the other way around.
[36:15]
B
Yeah.
[36:16]
A
Like they'll be accustomed to traveling.
[36:18]
B
Yeah.
[36:18]
A
They'll be used to the chaos and it's gonna be great. Like what cool kids you guys are gonna have.
[36:25]
B
I know I. Andrew and I always say like we are gonna have to do some work to make sure that they don't end up the popular kid because like their dad's in love luxury. Like I can see objectively how that kid would be like the coolest kid in school. And I always say if you were a popular kid in school, like that's a kiss of Andrew. And I didn't have like four friends between us.
[36:43]
A
Yeah. Well I also think they're going to be the best dressed because of you.
[36:47]
B
And then you watch, I'm gonna end up with a tomboy that wants to play soccer and wearing baggy shorts and.
[36:53]
A
But they can make it cute. Like you'll teach them style. They can have their own, their own personal. You're like genuinely concerned no matter what.
[37:00]
B
I just really do pray I end up with just one little girly girl because I justify so much stupid stuff I buy as Dude, I need to.
[37:07]
A
Add you to my close friends. Cuz I was just posting the other day I was buying school clothes for the kids and I never share stuff like that publicly cuz I'm going to have someone complain about whatever I'm spending money on. But I ordered Stevie the cutest Ralph Lauren knit set for school. It's like this pleated navy.
[37:25]
B
So cute. I love the preppy kids with a.
[37:27]
A
Collared V neck sweater and then she has these knee high socks with navy Mary Jane jeans with a Ralph Lauren backpack.
[37:36]
B
So cute. No, I'm like, I always say like I'm. Because in England every kid, no matter what's. Whether you go to expensive school free like free state school, everybody wears a uniform.
[37:45]
A
Yeah.
[37:46]
B
So like the concept of getting dressed every day to go to school was like so crazy to me. And seeing like the hills and seeing them like wearing like what we would call like weekend clothes to school was like so crazy to me.
[37:59]
A
You're like they're wearing jeans. What the.
[38:00]
B
Yeah. And so now I like dread I because I, I just think about how much press on just like I mean in England we called it Mufty day which is like once a year where you could come in in your like regular clothes and it was a free for all. Oh my. If you didn't have the most expensive Abercrombie sweatshirt. You are cast aside. You know, And I can't even imagine doing that every single day. And so I'm really hoping for a uniform because Andrew had a uniform as well in Canada. Same thing. Like he also had to wear a uniform. So I'm just, just like I, we're, we're hoping for one of those. Can you imagine me having to get myself dressed every morning when I was like eight years?
[38:37]
A
Well, also you getting yourself dressed every morning even now and then adding a kid on top of that, not in a uniform. Your morning routine would take four hours.
[38:46]
B
Stevie, if she changes her outfits a lot, imagine when she started going to school and she. I don't like it.
[38:50]
A
Oh, I know, I know, I know. That's why I'm trying to take advantage now because I just have the ability to buy whatever. And so anything she puts picks looks cute.
[39:00]
B
Yeah.
[39:00]
A
But I know there's going to be a time where she comes home, she's like, mommy, this girl's wearing this. And I know my ham going to be like that's so no hard pass like Ziggy's so into like the huge chunky Nike shoes.
[39:14]
B
Uhhuh.
[39:14]
A
And I'm like, I love you so much. But like on his tiny little. It's just like, are so big in his like feet step like footsteps walking around are so loud. I'm like, do those even fit you? But it's cuz he sees kids at school, he's like, Nikes are cool. He came on one day goes, mom, Nikes are really cool. Can I get a pair? I said, how the do you know what Nikes are? They like pick up on that stuff at school.
[39:35]
B
Oh yeah, of course. Yeah.
[39:36]
A
So interesting. I asked you before but you said, mary, life doesn't feel any different.
[39:41]
B
No, I wouldn't say. I mean Andrew and I have lived in our house three years. We've been together five. Like I don't really. I feel like we were already married, you know?
[39:51]
A
Yeah. Yeah. At what age did you move to the States?
[39:54]
B
States? I, I started modeling when I was 16 and I got my first visa when I was 16, like pretty much right out the gate. And so I actually started working in the US before I even graduated high school.
[40:06]
A
Oh, wow.
[40:07]
B
Yeah. So basically the day I graduated high school was the day that I moved here. It was kind of more like with modeling, it's really common to go somewhere for two months, work on your book, maybe do a few jobs and then go somewhere Else. So I was kind of bopping around and I went to Tokyo, I went to Sydney, I went to Paris and to Milan and all those things. But like, my home base has been New York since I was 18. And then I moved to LA when I was 22.
[40:31]
A
Okay, did you, when you were traveling like that, were your parents with you?
[40:35]
B
Nope. When I was in high school, yes. My mom would come with me. And then I came for the summer when I was 17 and my mom just came. I was in like a shaper owned apartment. And so my mom came to like drop me off, just get me set up. And then she came back and I spent like eight weeks in New York. But that chaperone was a freaking skin. I didn't see that lady once.
[40:55]
A
Really?
[40:56]
B
She said miracle.
[40:57]
A
She said, roam free. You're like, thank God, I'm trying to party.
[41:00]
B
Anyway, I mean, but at 17, like, yeah, you're a grown up. Like, you can take care of yourself, you know?
[41:05]
A
Totally.
[41:06]
B
But yeah, I did not see that chaperone lady one time. Wow.
[41:09]
A
Do you think you would let your kids model?
[41:11]
B
Yes, but I would want them to be at least, at least, at least the same age I was, if not older. I mean, I think the modeling industry has come a long way, even in the last 10 years.
[41:21]
A
Yeah.
[41:22]
B
But I was one of my first, like, test shoots. I. I had been maybe modeling a year. I was in Paris. My mom was with me. My mom had come to, with me to Paris. She'd gone with me to the shoot, she dropped me off, she got me set up, like, hey, I'm gonna go get a coffee. I'll be back in 30. Like, anybody want anything? I'm just gonna, like, run to this pharmacy, get a coffee. I'll be back. Great. And it's just me and this man in his apartment. And basically the moment I, my mom left and she felt comfortable enough to leave me because we'd done so many of these shoots at this point. And I was also with the best agency in Paris. I was with Ford Models. You know, you go there with a sense of like, security that, you know, you're. You were sent there by adults that have worked with these photographers so many times. And like, obviously it's safe. And then basically within 10 minutes of my mom leaving, he's like, hands me this. When I say it was not even a tiny bit. Okay. It was a completely sheer dress. And I put it on and he's like, I can see your underwear and you need to take it off. And I. So I like, Took my bra off. And he's like, okay, and your panties too. And I was like, I don't feel comfortable doing that. And he looks me dead in the face. I'm 17 years old. I look like I was about 12. Looks me down in the face. And he goes, you know, I've shot a lot of famous models. I've shot Irene a shake. He pulls it up. I've shot all these girls. You know what? They all had balls. You know what? You're. You're never going to make it in this industry unless you have balls. Take the panties off. And I was like, you're a minor. Minor.
[42:44]
A
That already told him, I'm uncomfortable with that. Which. Good for you at 17 for saying that.
[42:49]
B
Yeah. And then I, My mom comes back, obviously he like, I kept him on, my mom came back, it's all fine. He doesn't say anything. I didn't say anything. And then obviously told my mom when we left and she's like, okay, I'm going to call the agent. Say like, you have to tell them, them that he said this to you. Like you. He's obviously preying on young girls. Like, you can't. He can't do that. And we told my agency and they said, yeah, he has a point.
[43:10]
A
He has a point. I'm sorry, in what re. In what world do you need to have your entire coochie out at 17? Like, listen, well, the, and, and being alone, away from your mom is the second that he says that.
[43:25]
B
Yeah, yeah, that's. Those are the kind of stories that I, I would be very like, careful to let my kid model.
[43:33]
A
Totally.
[43:33]
B
But I would do it. I mean, it gave me the best 20s ever. And I'm also so grateful that I saw the world. I made all, all my bridesmaids I met modeling. They're my best friends to this day. I had just like the most incredible once in a lifetime experiences. And I also never ended up with like, I mean, cautionary tale. Not everybody ends up like me. But also don't have any student debt. Cause I didn't go to college. I was working and instead of spending. So yeah, I think, I think it was definitely a really amazing thing to do and I'm so glad I did it. But I would. And I would let my kids do it, but I would definitely want them to be 18.
[44:07]
A
Yeah.
[44:07]
B
And I would be a momager. I'm there.
[44:10]
A
You're there every single day. Yeah. I feel like no matter what your kids end up doing because of both of your guys jobs and creativity and world experience. They're just gonna do something cool. Cool and creative.
[44:24]
B
Yeah. I'm sure they'll end up creative. I can't imagine will raise an accountant.
[44:27]
A
Yeah. I was gonna say almost just said like none of your kids are going into finance.
[44:31]
B
Yeah. You know, I mean Andrew did politics in university. I could see that. Yeah, yeah.
[44:35]
A
Wait.
[44:36]
B
Oh he is such a politician.
[44:37]
A
Wait, he was studying politics but he's a dj. I know. This is your.
[44:43]
B
Imagine how that conversation went. Mom and dad, I just graduated college and you spent all that money and I'm gonna go off to LA and be a DJ.
[44:49]
A
Now I was gonna say I know this is your interview but like I want to know this story.
[44:53]
B
So he also saints.
[44:55]
A
Was it just like a hobby for him?
[44:56]
B
Oh he and he and Joe. The other half of loud lecture. You can't make this up. They met in DJ club and they were the only two members.
[45:04]
A
That's really cute though. Oh my God.
[45:08]
B
We have a like DJ club at their college and they were the only two members.
[45:14]
A
That's really cute.
[45:16]
B
So cute.
[45:16]
A
I actually love that they are so successful though and like all their dreams.
[45:20]
B
I know, but imagine that.
[45:23]
A
Can you imagine a politician that's like. So I'm DJing tonight. This club like come on. He's like in.
[45:28]
B
I feel like if Arnold Schwarzenegger can be the governor of California he could do it.
[45:32]
A
You know what? You're telling no lies.
[45:35]
B
Yeah.
[45:36]
A
Yeah. David Love. My husband is obsessed with Arnold because when he was like before he was ever into politics because he used to be really big into bodybuilding and so he's like. He's so inspirational.
[45:48]
B
Really? I can't imagine your husband as a bodybuilder.
[45:50]
A
Oh he did. They are. I don't think you were there but he was showing someone a photo yesterday when I met my husband he cuz he's 65, he was like 250 pounds.
[46:01]
B
Wow. Say he's so tall and like slim.
[46:04]
A
He was huge. Like we would have to custom get. We would have to get his button downs all custom made because his neck.
[46:11]
B
Yeah.
[46:11]
A
Was so wide. Yeah. Wild. But then he was like. He started becoming really miserable in the gym. Like he was working out multiple days a week. He would have to. He doesn't like food. He's not like a foodie. Like he doesn't really enjoy eating.
[46:27]
B
That's why you do those Crumble those Crumble videos by yourself.
[46:30]
A
I thank you for understanding because I literally am like I'm. All I'm thinking about is when I I'M eating next. Like I love food and I look forward to a good restaurant. He's just not like that. So he would have to force himself to to eat around 8, 000 calories a day to maintain the weight.
[46:45]
B
Yeah.
[46:46]
A
Cuz he's naturally very thin and he was like, why am I doing this? Like this is so miserable.
[46:50]
B
Yeah.
[46:51]
A
So.
[46:51]
B
But I was also like, okay, I don't gain anything.
[46:54]
A
No. I'm like, you're blessed. You can eat whatever you want. Like he'll sit on the couch after he gets the munchies and eat an entire bag of jalapeno Cheetos and then an entire pack of like family size Oreos. Yeah, if only. See, that's why I was so I was £200 when I gave birth because I was eating crispy cream by myself and I'd have to finish an entire dozen. I feel like from the time I open my eyes to the time I go to bed, my day is so jam packed that sometimes it's hard just to fit in the smallest things. That is why Instacart always saves the day for me. Delivery through Instacart is so quick and easy and makes sure that I have the essentials I need for my family life to run smooth. When life's full and times tight, Instacart helps you stay on track. Instacart is more than a grocery app. It's a care company that works around your schedule. 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[51:36]
B
Huh?
[51:37]
A
Because I think it's so good when you, like, wake up in the morning or getting dressed. What's going through your mind? How do you start an outfit?
[51:44]
B
It depends how much time. Today I had about two seconds. So.
[51:48]
A
Yeah, but you look fab in your Chanel to top.
[51:50]
B
I. I think that I. When I'm shopping, I only. I don't think about, like, what's interesting was not. I just buy things that I like. I love color. I love interesting things. I feel like it originally started, like, way back in, you know, when I first started doing videos and doing TikTok. It was like I was looking for, like, cool, unique pieces that would get views and go viral and stuff. And now I don't really do that so much anymore just because I feel like it got stale and people got used to seeing that. That. But I do feel like it influenced my sense of style and it made me much more adventurous and much more excited to try new things. And I definitely feel like it's made my style develop into just like, I'll pick something that I think is unique, that I think is interesting, that calls to me, and then I'll just, like, base my outfit around. Around that, I guess.
[52:35]
A
Yeah, you always have fun. And I feel like nowadays especially everyone's in so into neutrals, which I get. Like, there are amazing neutral moments. Don't get Me wrong. And same with like house design. Like, people color shocked how much color I'm putting.
[52:50]
B
Just you wait till my next house. Because Andrew and I, our house right now, it's very mid century. It's like from the 50s. It looks like it's from the 50s, but with like an 80s Renault job. And so I don't feel like it makes sense to decorate it the way I want to decorate it. Like we have it decorated, in my opinion, very neutral, very like California modern.
[53:13]
A
Because the way you said that was like, so California. Yeah.
[53:16]
B
Yeah. But in my heart, in my soul, I was want a like crazy colorful granny cottage.
[53:22]
A
Like eclectic kind of.
[53:24]
B
Yeah. With like molding everywhere, wallpaper in every room. Like that is what I love. And like, same with my closet. Like, I feel like in winter I literally might as well not post for 6 months because I suck at outfits in the winter because I hate black. I hate like winter clothes. Like, I love bright colors, I love patents, I love prints. Like that, that is me. And that's why I feel I thrive in the summertime. But our next house, oh, girl, it's gonna look like somebody threw up in there with all the color.
[53:51]
A
Oh, yeah. Like every single one of my rooms is so different. But I wanted that. I was like, I want a different stone and tile in every single bathroom.
[54:00]
B
Yeah.
[54:01]
A
To make it look like a different house in every bathroom. I want color, I want shape, I want like texture. Like, I have a lot of stone in the house too. People like you have so much color because neutrals are so trendy. But I love, love how your personality really shines through your clothes because you have that like, very bubbly, eclectic, fun personality.
[54:22]
B
Yeah.
[54:22]
A
But you never shy away from color. Even in the winter though. Like you always have fun with.
[54:26]
B
Yeah, well, I'm already trying to get ahead of it and so I've been stocking up now whenever. Yeah, I love how women dress in the South. Like, I just went to my friend Merit is from Wilmington. I just went there and her friend has a boutique and I loaded up on all of the winter stuff because they, they wear so much more color in the, the South.
[54:42]
A
What do you, what did you find that you got like western?
[54:45]
B
No, no, it's like I got this little green. It's like olive green. Like print two piece with like feathers on it. But it's like you wear it with like a brown boot and a brown coat. And it's fun. But it's, you know, like fall, winter they had like all these really cute like, greens and Browns, like, little matching sets of, like, sweater and a skirt and stuff. And. Yeah, I just. I love. I love the fun. I love the patterns. I love the colors. And I feel like the women in the south, they really do that. They do it.
[55:11]
A
They do it. And also, it's, like, the perfect style to have as a DJ wife. Because you have fun.
[55:15]
B
Yeah. Oh, yeah. I mean, I don't. I always look so out of place at shows because I will wear my little preppy.
[55:21]
A
No, I love your proposal video because your dress was, like, so hot. Red with the low back.
[55:27]
B
Oh, that dress wants me. I wish I didn't wear that dress. Why?
[55:30]
A
I thought that dress was so hot.
[55:32]
B
I mean, I love the dress. I. I just hated how I styled it, but I only had what I had in my suitcase. Like, I hate the shoes I put with it. I hate that I wouldn't have worn it. Worn black tights. I would have worn brown tights or no tights. I would have, but it was in Toronto, and it was winter, and so it was, like, negative 20. Obviously, I need tights. And then, like, the shoes were. Why did I wear white shoes? I don't know. Because I wanted to be comfortable, and my only, like, black shoes were stilettos, and I knew I can't wear. If I had known I was getting engaged, I mean, I sort of knew I was getting engaged, but I didn't know specifically what day I would have thought about it when I packed. And I would have styled that dress a lot differently.
[56:05]
A
Were your nails done?
[56:07]
B
Yes, because my friends Adrian. I mean, we'd been together a long time. I knew we were getting engaged, but the jig was really up when my friend Sasha was like, hey, let's go get our nails done today. I'll pay for it. Like, let's just go.
[56:18]
A
And you're like, what the. Where's his energy been? Like, why have you never offered to pay for my nails?
[56:24]
B
Yeah, if I didn't before, I definitely knew that.
[56:26]
A
Oh, my God.
[56:27]
B
Nails were done.
[56:28]
A
Okay. We like to end our show with a little rapid fire. Are you ready? Ready. Okay. Favorite show or festival from last year.
[56:36]
B
Oh, my gosh. When was that? Lollapalooza. Was that last year?
[56:39]
A
I just learned about that. That's in Chicago.
[56:42]
B
Yeah. Andrew played it last year. It was sick. I had. I'm. I wore my Moschino loud luxury bag. It was like a fanny pack bag. That Moschino did a whole collection that was called loud luxury.
[56:52]
A
Oh, that's cool.
[56:53]
B
So obviously, I bought it. Bought it Even though it was really overpriced. But yeah, Andrew played in it with was like his biggest festival ever. Yeah.
[57:01]
A
Yeah. It was fun. Yeah we just. I just had one of my friends on Laura and she was like oh we just got back from Lalapalooza. I said I literally thought she was making up. I said what the is that?
[57:09]
B
Oh it's huge.
[57:10]
A
Yeah, I am. I don't know. Do you know my husband goes to EDC every single year. Does he really seen Andrew last five years?
[57:16]
B
Which one? The one in Vegas. Yeah, definitely seen Andrew before.
[57:19]
A
Yeah. Literally the last five years. That's so funny. I'm gonna tell him. I'm just like I'm friends with his wife so. Who. Who the fuck are you? Okay, go to drink order when you're going out.
[57:31]
B
Depends on what I'm doing. Espresso martini or a rose. Honestly, I'm getting old. I. I love my wine these days.
[57:38]
A
Dude. No me, I hit 30 and I said I don't order anything but wine.
[57:42]
B
No. Or unless espresso martini if I'm in the club.
[57:43]
A
I was going to say unless I have to stay awake.
[57:46]
B
Yes.
[57:46]
A
Then I have to get an espresso martini to literally keep my eyes open.
[57:49]
B
Yeah. And then the worst is when I have to go watch Andrew shows and my options are vodka or tequila. Oh God.
[57:55]
A
And it's like really shitty vodka tequila options. Yeah. Yeah. Oh my God. I like it's hard for me to drink unwell hydration as much as I love it cuz every time we're at unwell events they mix it.
[58:05]
B
It's vodka and unwell with Yes. I have to say I did have a good amount of vodka at that event with Chase chased by my unwell and I had no hangover the next day.
[58:14]
A
It's the best because it actually keeps you hydrated. Like it really is great for a hangover.
[58:19]
B
Yeah.
[58:19]
A
Yeah it was great but I can't mix it with alcohol alcohol anymore because I'm like it's. I can't anymore. I gotta just have it straight.
[58:25]
B
Yeah.
[58:26]
A
Okay. What's your favorite comfort show or movie?
[58:29]
B
Andrew asked me this the other day. What's your favorite movie? And I was like genuinely I couldn't tell you because I have a million like movies I love. I. I don't know if I have a favorite.
[58:36]
A
I thought you're gonna say like the holiday because you're talking about holiday comfort show.
[58:39]
B
I. I have been suffering through the summer. I turned pretty recently girl.
[58:44]
A
Okay. I stopped watching after a couple episodes. I'm so sorry. I thought it was so chuk.
[58:51]
B
Okay. So I saw the very first two episodes of the summer. I turned pretty at the first premiere on the first influencer brand trip Amazon ever did in 2022.
[59:01]
A
Okay.
[59:02]
B
They previewed us the first two episodes. I'm sitting there like, this is for tweens. Like, I'm way too old to be watching this. And I. We got to the end of the second episode and I was like, maybe when it comes out, I got so obsessed. I've watched every episode. I love it. But this most recent season has been brutal. Brutal.
[59:21]
A
Okay, so I should finish watching it.
[59:23]
B
Definitely.
[59:24]
A
All right. That's like going to be one of those solo shows I watch and I travel without my husband because he.
[59:28]
B
I have those two. I got Wednesday loaded up for next time Andrew's gone. Because I love that show you've been watching.
[59:33]
A
Hunting Wives.
[59:34]
B
Yes. Finish that one. Holy worst mistake I ever made watching that on the plane.
[59:39]
A
Oh, what were you thinking? While they're all munching box the guy next I had.
[59:45]
B
I had an older man sitting next to me. And I am just like, I'm trying to skip when they're. When they're doing.
[59:50]
A
And you know, he's like.
[59:50]
B
He was. He said. I kept looking over, he's like this. And I literally didn't feel like. I'm like, they're gonna kick me off. They're gonna accuse me of watching.
[59:58]
A
Is that Brittany Snow?
[59:59]
B
Yeah. Yeah. He's watching it over my shoulder the entire time.
[60:03]
A
Oh, my God. We're on episode like five, I think. And it's getting so. Last night it was midnight and we can't stay up late, especially on a weekday, because we know our kids are gonna be up. And I was like, I can't turn the show off.
[60:13]
B
No, it's so good.
[60:14]
A
So good.
[60:15]
B
Yeah. Oh, my friend Mallory, who works in film, she told me that there's been like 2 billion minutes of that show watched or something. It's crazy. Yeah, yeah.
[60:23]
A
It's cuz everyone wants to see them eating, munching on box. Like, come on. It's like all these housewives at home that are like, damn, I need cooler friends.
[60:33]
B
Like, I know that that show got really juicy. That was really good.
[60:35]
A
Yeah, it's really juicy. Good. I'm really into it. Okay. Also, did you ever watch Scandal? Yes.
[60:40]
B
Obsessed.
[60:40]
A
Okay. Did you notice that Lindsay, DWI and Scandal is the pastor's wife in hunting.
[60:47]
B
One Quinn from Scandal is. Yeah. Yes. Oh, of course. I clocked that episode.
[60:51]
A
I literally saw her and said I'm obsessed with her. Yeah, I know. I just called her Lindsay because that's like her birthday.
[60:57]
B
That was her, that was her name in Scandal, right? Yeah, I loved Scandal. I actually just started. I. I saw Jake Shane posting on TikTok that he was showing his friend Scandal for the first time. The first time. And I was like I just to.
[61:08]
A
Do a re watch before we started hunting wise I just finished Scandal for like probably like the 4th or 5th time. Scandal anytime I like need something in the background. Yeah, always watching Scandal. Actually I just went to Beyonce's last concert at Cowboy Carter tour and Carrie was there with her daughter.
[61:23]
B
Love her.
[61:23]
A
She is. I'm sorry, she's an aged in 20 years.
[61:26]
B
Yeah.
[61:27]
A
She is one of the most beautiful people I've ever seen.
[61:29]
B
Yeah, no, she's stunning obsessed there.
[61:31]
A
Okay, what's one beauty product you can't live without?
[61:36]
B
Kerastos Elixirol Team the hair oil. Really Best hair oil ever. Okay, I should try. I have crazy dry hair and it like only oil I've ever used that actually keeps my ends like soft enough and like not breaking and like this is the longest I've ever been able to grow my hair in my life. And I mean I did a lot more than just that. But that oil is the like if I run out when I'm traveling, I'm like, I have to use something else the same. It's the best.
[62:06]
A
I'll order it, I'll get it. Who's the most famous person in your phone? You're like my husband.
[62:14]
B
A few people, but like can I look?
[62:17]
A
Yeah, of course.
[62:19]
B
I had at one point Leonardo DiCaprio.
[62:21]
A
You're lying. Why do you look like his type? Tenfold.
[62:26]
B
Imagine, imagine when I was under 25.
[62:30]
A
I was say at the prime age of about 19.
[62:34]
B
Exactly.
[62:34]
A
You were this type.
[62:36]
B
Yep. But I mean I went to a few house parties.
[62:39]
A
Where did you get that number?
[62:41]
B
Because I knew him like he used to call me Manchester because he couldn't remember my name.
[62:45]
A
So he was like, oh, he remembered Manchester.
[62:47]
B
Remember? He remember Manchester. But yeah, no, he, I mean he. I don't want to get myself in trouble, but. But he, he frequents with all the promoters in New York, all the model promoters that bring out the models and stuff. So I would go to like party. He would host like game day parties at his apartment and stuff like that. And so I would like go to those.
[63:05]
A
Was he nice?
[63:07]
B
He was actually really nice.
[63:08]
A
Okay, that's good. At least he's a nice guy.
[63:10]
B
Yeah, he's really sweet.
[63:11]
A
Damn. Okay. I love. You're just like casually like probably Leonardo DiCaprio.
[63:18]
B
I don't know that I still have his number though. I'm trying to see who I sold.
[63:21]
A
You did at one point. That's goals.
[63:23]
B
I did at one point. You know who I do have? The brother from Will Polta. Again, I've never texted him. I've texted him probably once 10 years ago. But I still have his numbers. Eight for some reason.
[63:34]
A
Wow. Okay.
[63:36]
B
Again, met him at the club when I was at. When I was 21 in the club.
[63:40]
A
He said hey.
[63:42]
B
But he was there with his girlfriend at the time. I think, like, yeah, I think when I, you know, when I was that age, like anybody that was British, I was always just like, yeah, let's be.
[63:49]
A
Best friends for sure. Okay. Favorite color?
[63:55]
B
Pink.
[63:56]
A
Pink.
[63:56]
B
Oh yeah.
[63:57]
A
Okay. This is mostly for people that struggle with fashion or putting together something. What's a go to outfit for people in a pinch? Like with basics?
[64:08]
B
I, I mean, I always tell everyone I love an sls. I call an sls like a slutty little sundress because you don't have to think about anything. Like, I have a collection of slutty little sundresses that I'll just like. Because you just take it out, you toss it on. Done. And then you just need like shoes in a bag.
[64:24]
A
Yeah.
[64:25]
B
And then a sweater if it's cold. So that's always like my formula for like if I'm in a rush. I actually tried to put one on today, but then I couldn't find the one that was clean.
[64:33]
A
What's of a non heel old summer sandal? You think that's, that's good in the summer? Because I need. I was thinking about buying the Loewe ones with a big gold ball on it. Have you seen those? I. I tried them on. They're so comfortable.
[64:49]
B
Okay. So I haven't tried those. I bought a pair from Bottega like that I thought were going to be really comfortable and they are not.
[64:55]
A
Yeah. And Chanel sandals always give blisters.
[64:58]
B
Okay. But I swear by the Chanel ballet flat with the strap, those are insanely comfortable.
[65:05]
A
Really?
[65:06]
B
Even though the ballet flat without a strap. Miserable. The ballet flats are not good. But the ones, the little like Mary Jane style ones are insanely comfortable.
[65:13]
A
Okay.
[65:14]
B
And so I always buy those if I see them because they also, they don't last that long. They don't wear that well. But they're really comfy otherwise. I mean, I like these. They're not really flats though. But they're.
[65:26]
A
Yeah, it's like I was gonna say you and your cute little Chanels come back. I saw them. Humans. Well, this is really fun. What. What do you have coming up that people can look forward to besides being a wifey so much?
[65:39]
B
I am off to Ohio next week to redo somebody's decorate dorm room which is going to be fun for a little girl. Her name's Hannah. Yeah.
[65:47]
A
Oh, I love that.
[65:48]
B
That's gonna be great. So we're filming all that for my YouTube and my tick tock. I am sewing my best friend's wedding dress. That's coming up.
[65:55]
A
Yeah, girl, you're taking on all these projects.
[65:58]
B
I got lots in the cow for the rest of the year.
[66:00]
A
I love it. Okay. Where can people find you to keep up?
[66:03]
B
Tik tok, Instagram, YouTube. I'm on all the things, all the platforms.
[66:06]
A
What's your handle?
[66:07]
B
So people know at Madeline underscore white on TikTok, Madeline Cy on Instagram and I think my YouTube's Madeline underscore.
[66:17]
A
Why you just had to make it difficult and do all.
[66:19]
B
Well, I tried to get Madeline Underscore White on Instagram because that's what I had first.
[66:23]
A
But it's taken and I know. Well, you can. Did you find anyone with the username you want? Because you can.
[66:27]
B
Yeah, he uses it. She's in Australia and she really did she. She really does. Because sometimes it'll be like an inactive account and Instagram will just give it to you. Yeah, but I can't. I'm.
[66:37]
A
You got to play around with that username. You could figure out something.
[66:39]
B
Yeah.
[66:40]
A
Well, thank you so much for being here. I really appreciate it. I think you're such a gem and a doll and I'm excited to see your future and being a wife and a mommy in the future.
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B
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CHEERS! with Avery Woods

Episode: happy wife | madeleine white fedyk

Date: August 18, 2025
Host: Avery Woods
Guest: Madeleine White Fedyk

Episode Overview

In this lively and warm-hearted episode of CHEERS!, host Avery Woods sits down with model, content creator, and fashion DIY queen Madeleine White Fedyk. Over a glass of wine, they dive into Madeleine’s recent wedding in Santorini, her creative journey from Manchester to modeling, sewing viral dresses, and navigating love and life married to DJ Andrew Fedyk (of Loud Luxury). The conversation is peppered with hilarious personal stories (including run-ins with Leonardo DiCaprio and Chanel shopping sprees), practical advice on travel and motherhood, and brings listeners an inside look at building a creative, vibrant life.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

Meeting & First Impressions

Avery and Madeleine reminisce about meeting at a Miami event, where Avery was starstruck by Madeleine's Chanel ensemble.
- Notable Quote (Avery, 01:42):
  “That is the best outfit I’ve ever seen.”
Shopping habits: Madeleine only shops while traveling, not at home.
Both bond over loving to shop in-person, especially in Paris, and the joys of tax-back shopping.

Madeleine’s Wedding in Santorini

Details of her “best weekend ever” surrounded by family and friends.
- Madeleine (03:08):
  “I really underestimated just how great it would be to have every single person that we care about in the world in one place…"
Andrew, her husband, was pickier about venues; ultimately, Santorini was more cost-effective, flexible, and beautiful than American options.
- Madeline (21:42):
  "Andrew was way more of a diva about the venue than I was... he wanted like, no rules. All he cared about was it being like a huge rave.”

Planning a Destination Wedding

Breakdown of cost savings—her venue in Santorini was €3,750 compared to U.S. locations that were far more expensive and restrictive.
- Avery (22:24):
  “I'm looking at places in Malibu right now... astronomical, but they're like, no loud music. You have to be out by 10. No live band. All these restrictions...”
Importance of a local wedding planner to overcome language and logistical barriers.

The Viral Bridesmaids Dresses

Madeleine made all of her bridesmaids’ dresses by hand, inspired by couture gowns she couldn’t afford or find in the States.
- Avery (24:56):
  “She made the most insane bridesmaids dresses. If you guys did not see, you need to go look…"
- Madeleine (25:09):
  "I mostly made them for selfish reasons, which is that I couldn't find bridesmaid dresses that I like.”

Wedding Highlights

TikTok content around her father dancing and the humorous reality of becoming a “granddad.”
Bridesmaids ended the night swimming in their couture gowns—a sign of a great party.

Honeymoon Adventure

Chose not a luxe resort, but a small, affordable "yacht" to cruise the Amalfi coast, Sicily.
- Madeleine (28:46):
  “We got the smallest, cheapest... yacht that we could find... It was so cute. We had a little crew... and they just like took us wherever we wanted.”

Background & Early Life

Grew up in Manchester: wholesome, “The Holiday” vibes—community-based, quiet, charming English countryside.
Creativity runs in the family (mother sewed and quilted).
Childhood dream: to make clothes, drawing and “changing outfits 100 times a day.”
Modeling began at 15, with dreams sparked by the Victoria’s Secret Fashion Show.

The Social Media Pivot

Modeling dried up during COVID; pivoted to social media out of necessity, first viral TikTok (face-tuning Andrew’s forehead).
Developed her sewing and DIY fashion niche after posting “thrift flip” videos and re-creating celebrity looks, like Lily-Rose Depp’s Chanel dress.
Taught herself to sew at age 22 through pure persistence and “ADHD girl hobby energy.”
Memorable moment (Madeleine, 10:13):
“Spoiler alert: bikinis are actually insanely hard to make. And to this day, I can't make, like, a decent bikini.”

Creative Process & Style Philosophy

Madeleine’s style evolution: shopping with a focus on things she truly loves; leaning into color and unique pieces.
- Madeleine (51:49):
  “I just buy things that I like. I love color. I love interesting things.”

Relationship & Life with Andrew Fedyk

Set up by a mutual friend, originally hesitant to date a DJ; COVID allowed their relationship to blossom.
Navigating DJ spouse life: tough at times with travel, “girls everywhere”—but feels secure after five years together.
Home decor/renovation: Madeleine constantly itching to redecorate now that the wedding is over.

Future & Family

Plans to have kids “hopefully soon”; wants to integrate kids into her fast-paced, travel-focused life.
- Avery (36:15):
  “Just integrate your kids into your already existing life and not the other way around.”
Reflections on how to raise well-adjusted, non-bratty, non-“popular kid” children despite their unusual life.

Modeling Industry Reflections

Would let future kids model, but only with her present (“momager”) and only from age 18 up.
Opens up about unsavory industry experiences as a teenage model, including being pressured to undress during a shoot.
- Madeleine (42:43):
  “I’m 17 years old. I look like I was about 12... He goes, ‘you're never going to make it in this industry unless you have balls.’”
Credits modeling for giving her worldliness, best friends, and debt-free life.

Fun Anecdotes and Pop Culture Moments

Reveals that she used to have Leonardo DiCaprio’s phone number (“He used to call me Manchester”).
Favorite wedding moments: Natasha Bedingfield performed live at her wedding.
- Madeleine (32:34):
  “It was the best 15 minutes of my life.”
Andrew studied politics; met his music partner in “DJ club” (they were the only two members).

Fashion, Advice, and Life Hacks

Go-to outfits: “Slutty little sundress (SLS)—take it out, toss it on, done.”
Shoe recommendations: Chanel Mary Jane ballet flats (insanely comfortable).
Approach decorating: Next house will be “colorful granny cottage… like someone threw up in there with all the color.”
Beauty essential: Kérastase Elixir Ultime hair oil.
Parenting tips, especially on school uniforms, fashion pressure, and integrating kids into a creative routine.

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

On the magic of weddings
“I really underestimated just how great it would be to have every single person that we care about...”
— Madeleine (03:08)
On wedding costs abroad:
"Our wedding venue was €3,750. ...It might have gone up since, because that was two years ago when we booked it."
— Madeleine (22:05)
On her bridesmaids dresses:
"I couldn't find bridesmaid dresses that I like. The only ones I could find were like, couture gowns that cost 10 times more than even my wedding dress... so I guess I'm gonna have to make them."
— Madeleine (25:09)
On her viral sewing origin:
"I bought a sewing machine on Amazon... taught myself how to make bikinis because...I'm not paying $100 for a freaking bikini. Spoiler: bikinis are insanely hard to make!"
— Madeleine (10:13)
On pandemic love:
"We always say, I don't know if we’d be together if not for COVID... He travels, like, four days a week every week.”
— Madeleine (18:33)
On child modeling: "I would let my kids do it, but I would definitely want them to be 18. And I would be a momager. I'm there."
— Madeleine (44:07)
On Leonardo DiCaprio:
"He used to call me Manchester because he couldn't remember my name."
— Madeleine (42:46)

Timestamps for Important Segments

Meeting & Fashion Bonding: 01:13–03:02
Santorini Wedding Recap: 03:05–05:37
Childhood & Manchester Roots: 05:50–07:18
Modeling & Social Media Pivot: 07:55–10:50
Learning to Sew: 10:50–12:14
Bridesmaids Dress Process: 24:56–26:46
Honeymoon Adventure: 28:16–29:32
Relationship with Andrew: 17:04–20:58
Wedding Planning Abroad: 21:06–24:22
Fashion Philosophy & Decorating: 51:37–54:22
Parenting, School, & Fashion: 35:31–38:59
Modeling Industry Dangers: 41:11–44:07
Fun & Rapid-Fire Q&A: 56:27–66:36

Rapid-Fire Round Highlights (56:27–66:36)

Favorite festival: Lollapalooza, where Andrew (husband) played (56:36)
Go-to drinks: Espresso martini or rosé (57:30)
Favorite comfort show: “The Summer I Turned Pretty,” “Scandal” (58:39, 60:39)
Beauty essential: Kérastase Elixir Ultime hair oil (61:35)
Most famous contact: “Probably Leonardo DiCaprio” (“He used to call me Manchester”) (62:21)
Style tip for basics: “SLS—slutty little sundress” (64:08)

Where to Find Madeleine

TikTok: @madeline_white
Instagram: @madelinesy
YouTube: madeline_white

Tone and Takeaway

Avery and Madeleine’s rapport is candid, comedic, and packed with real-life advice for creative women, soon-to-be brides, or anyone seeking inspiration to carve their own colorful path. If you missed the episode, you’ll walk away feeling like you just had drinks with two clever, funny, and talented friends—plus, you’ll have actionable wedding, style, and life tips in your back pocket.

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A
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B
Hi.
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A
I'm gonna, I'm gonna adopt that name for you now.
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B
Perfect. Do you remember when we first met Unwell Miami?
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A
Yep. We were just talking about this because she's in the most stunning Chanel top, which no surprise because she's a fashion icon. But I went up to her at the Miami event because your husband Andrew was performing. It was so fun. And she was in this little two piece pink striped, maybe twill.
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B
Yeah, it was like, it's like a little knit moment. And I, I got a little body chain. So you situation.
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A
It was literally, I. I was so gagged and it was dark out, it was nighttime. And I was like, that is the best outfit I've ever seen. And you were like, I just went over to the Chanel in Miami and bought it. You should go look. I said, you're a bad influence.
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B
They took it off the mannequin for me, which they don't do. And the lady was like, she said, oh, I'll go check. And I only asked because I thought she's say no. And then she came back, she said, they're all stripping the mannequin.
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A
I'm telling you, I gotta get it now. No, that outfit was so worth it. Like, that is one that you could archive for your kids or something. It's so good. And then when you told me that, I said, oh, you're gonna be a bad influence. Like we could never go shopping together.
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B
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, no. Well, the good news about me is I don't really go. I never go in la. I don't shop when I'm at home.
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A
Yeah.
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B
I only go when I'm, like, traveling, doing something fun. Like on my honeymoon, I'll go. Or when we're in Miami, I went just for, like, something to do. But I actually don't really shop ever.
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A
I'm the same at home. I'm the same. I'll do, like, an occasion. Occasional online shopping if I need something for, like, a trip or something.
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B
Yeah.
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A
But I so much more enjoy going on a trip in person. Like, I love shopping in Paris.
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B
Yeah, same.
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A
And then I tell myself, like, it's fine because you get the tax back.
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B
It's cheaper. Yeah.
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A
Yeah, same. Speaking of honeymoon, Congratulations. You're married.
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B
Yay.
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A
How was everything? It looked incredible.
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B
It was amazing. It was. I mean, everybody says, like, oh, wedding's the best day of your life. I was always like, it's a day. I. Andrew and I have always said, like, we weren't that jazzed on the idea of having this big wedding because, like, for a lot of people, it's the only day of your life where you are the center of attention. Everybody's looking at you like, it's the only day where it's all about you. Whereas, like, we both kind of get that at our respective job. So it's not like we had it built up in our heads. It's like, it has to be the best day of our lives. But it was amazing. Like, it really was. I really underestimated just how great it would be to have every single person that we care about in the world in one place, and they're all there at the same time, which will be probably the only time in our life that that's gonna happen. So that part was definitely amazing. And, yeah, we had the best weekend.
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A
And it was Santorini.
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B
Yeah.
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A
That's one of my dream destination places. I still haven't been beautiful. And when I saw you get married there, I was like, oh, my God.
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B
Oh, you have to go. But maybe wait till kitties are a little bit older because it's a lot of stairs.
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A
Yeah. Also, I. I refuse. Like, even we're so lucky. Like, we have family that has a flat in Paris that we go to. Kids really want to go. Like, my son's been asking, like, I want to see the Eiffel Tower, Mommy. I'm not ready for the time change commitment either with them. Like, that's a lot for a six and a four year old to try to sleep on a flight, adjust to the time change. Like it's a lot.
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B
Yeah. I will say though, have they been to Europe at all? No, I will say it's a different culture in terms of like, I always say this when like I, the way I was raised in England, kind of. I grew up going to Spain every summer. My parents have a place there. It's like, it's, it's very normal. Everybody brings the kids out at night. They bring them out. You know, people sit down to eat dinner at like 10, 11pm Kids are in there, kitties are running around midnight at night and then they just knock out in the stroller. They knock out on a chair somewhere and it's completely normal. And the parents will just like stay in the restaurant, they'll stay in the bar and then everybody takes a nap at 4pm until like 8, 7. It's a completely different sleep schedule and it's a completely different culture. And so I always say like, Europe's really, really kid friendly because it's a way different culture in terms of like you see so many mommies breastfeeding in the restaurant. Like, it's just, it's so nice like that for kids. And I always say like, they don't. Even if you, you don't have to change your sleep schedule the same because literally they'll be out until in the middle. Yeah. And like it's normal and they don't have to. Like, even Andrew and I, when we travel to Europe, most of the time we don't even bother trying to adjust that much because we kind of have to adjust when you go back. So it's like I don't care if I sleep till noon and then I'm up till like two in the morning. Like.
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A
Okay, that's good to hear.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Because I feel like they're at the age where I, I want to be able to give them more experiences and show them places outside of America because I'm like, this isn't all you have to look forward to. Trust me, there's a lot.
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B
Oh yeah.
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A
Out there. So. Okay. Speaking of growing up in Europe, where are you technically from?
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B
I'm from Manchester. Like Manchester.
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A
Okay. How was your childhood?
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B
Great. Loved it.
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A
Normal.
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B
Yeah. Yeah. If I could, I would go back to England tomorrow. It's like, it's just, it's, if you, if you've ever seen the movie the Holiday, like. Yeah, that is where I was raised. Like that type of environment, like little English cottages and like everybody gets eggs from the Neighbor. Every morning, like my mum literally walks across the street and just like takes eggs that the neighbor leaves out for everybody. And we get the milk delivered by the milkman at the end of the road every morning and he just brings it from his farm around the street. And everybody is just like, it's such a community out there and you know, it's just like so quiet and it was great. I loved it. I mean, I really couldn't have asked for a better childhood. Like my parents were amazing. I had a stay at home mom. She did everything. Yeah.
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A
What did you want to be when you grew up?
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B
I mean, when I was really little, I wanted to make clothes.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Like I used to change my outfit 100 times a day.
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A
That's Stevie right now, my daughter.
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B
Oh yeah, yeah.
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A
Like the other day I said, I was like, baby, I love you so much, but this is your sixth dress of the day. Like mommy has to do all this laundry.
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B
Oh, I used to get in so much trouble. Yeah.
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A
So literally yesterday we had a lesson on hanging our dresses back up on the hanger. But I love it cuz she's like experimenting and like being creative and finding her own style. So I'm trying not to hinder that. But that reminds me a lot of my daughter.
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B
That was literally me change a million times a day, drawing dresses in my little coloring books and all that. Like, that was what I loved. And then I feel like when I got to like 12, the Victoria's Secret fashion show was like everything, everybody. And all of a sudden it was like, I want to do that. So imagine how insufferable I became when I got approached to be a model when I was like 15.
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A
Yeah.
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B
And yeah. So then after I started modeling, obviously I wanted to be Candice Wanna pole. Never didn't really get that far, but yeah. And then.
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A
And is that when you, when did you start social media?
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B
I started. I mean I always had an Instagram, you know, like, yeah, everybody does. But I started posting videos in 2021.
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Okay.
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B
My first viral video. Yeah. Was in February 2021. And then modeling was like dead because of COVID I had basically been unemployed for a year. It was not an essential job. It wasn't. You know, I basically sat around at home for a year just like running out of money. And then as things started to open up again, clients started asking, hey, does anybody have a tick tock? Maybe we're going to try running videos on them. Maybe we'll try and do that. And I had all this free time and then when I had my first private video was face tuning Andrew' forehead bigger until he noticed it's actually a really funny video.
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A
I was expecting, like, you like, making a joke from scrap?
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B
No, because in the beginning, like, I didn't know that that's what my content was going to be.
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Totally.
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Then my second follow video was also something really dumb. And then Andrew at the time was like, you should try posting every single day. You should try getting Tik Tok followers because you're clearly funny at least and see if you can, like, drum up some modeling work that way. And I was like, yeah, you're right. I decided to stop posting every single day. I toyed around with, like, tons of different types of posting and like, you know, dancing, which I was never gonna be doing that.
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Oh, yeah, well, we're doing a dance after this. It's very simple because I also don't dance. I was like, scott, we need to find a funny Tick Tock to do. And it's literally like, up, down, to the side. I said, I can do that.
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B
Oh, yeah. Perfect. Yeah, yeah. But I. Oh, my.
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A
Like the Charlie d' Amelios at the time, that's how I felt when I download Tick Tock. I said, I can't shake my ass out the.
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B
I cannot shake ass.
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A
Yeah.
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B
And then my first sewing video I posted, I started with like, thrift flips, because I was already doing that for myself. I didn't have any money, and so I would go to the thrift store and find something. And I taught myself to sew because I needed a bikini for a modeling casting. And even back then I was like, I'm not paying 100 for a freaking bikini. Like, that's true. I. I decided in my. We had little warped mind that it was going to be better if I bought a sewing machine on Amazon that was like 30 bucks. And I taught myself how to make bikinis because in my brain I was like, oh, then I can make 100 bikinis if I want. Which, spoiler alert, bikinis are actually insanely hard to make. And to this day, I can't make, like, a decent bikini.
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Yeah. I was going to say there's actually a lot of detail.
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B
Really hard. Yeah. So I was already doing that for myself. And then I had a thrift flip go viral. And then I started leaning into, like, the fashion side of things. And then when I really started doing that, I sewed that little lily rose jab at the Met Gala Chanel dress.
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A
I remember that.
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Yeah, that was a big one. And then, yeah, then I That's when I really feel like I found my niche, which took me probably like three or four months. And then, wow, I had a million within like five months, six months.
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A
I thought that you. I was thinking in my mind, like, oh, she must have grown up sewing or, like, knew how to do it. So this is like a. Just in the last few years thing.
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Yeah, I taught myself. Yeah. Probably when I was like 22. So, yeah. Seven, six. Seven years ago.
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A
Which is hard to learn stuff like that as an adult.
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Yeah. As an adult, I always tell everyone, like, I have this. I. I see things and I just assume that I can do it and I will just buy the equipment. And like, I. I swear, people tell me all the time, like, you definitely have a ADHD girl, because, like, I will see a hobby and I'm like, I'm gonna do that. Like, all of a sudden, for me right now, it's. It's making Christmas stockings cross stitch and like these people with these extremely elaborate stockings with, like reindeers on them and stuff. And I'm like, oh, I'm going to start cross stitching and then I'll buy all of the stuff and do it one time and then never pick it up again in my life.
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That's true. Like, make all your future kids stockings.
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Yeah, that's what I'm getting. Yes. In July, I'm getting cross stitch Christmas stockings.
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A
I was going to say you're like, really ahead of the game.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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A
You have half a year to get that done for Christmas.
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No, but it does. It. It does. It takes them a year to do. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That I don't see. I don't have the patience. That's why I haven't.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Purchased myself across.
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A
See, like, I'm too busy to sit down and do something like that.
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Yeah. Whereas me, like, if I get tunnel vision, I'll sit there and I'll sit there for 10 hours a day until I figure it out. Because, like, if I really want to do it that badly, hence the sewing. And like, this week I decided I wanted this crazy canopy bed that I had seen on Pinterest a million times. And I was like, I'm gonna figure out how to do this. And I did.
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A
I love that. You just have a very creative mind.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Have you all. Was your mom into fashion?
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Yeah, my mom. My mom grew. I grew up. My mom made all my, like, Halloween costumes, dance recital costumes. Like, she always did that stuff. She always love making things. She's not as into it as me because she is handicapped in one of her hands so she can't like do fine motor skills. But yeah, my mom, I was always raised doing it. My mom loves to bake. Like my mom loves all the same things I do.
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Yeah.
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So I feel like it was pretty. She wasn't as into it as I am, but she, it was definitely something that I was like raised around. And she, she, she loves like quilting. She, she'll make like quilts for all beds and stuff and all of our like place mats.
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Oh, so you got that creative side from her.
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Yeah, yeah.
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[17:05]
B
We got set up. Really? Yeah.
[17:07]
A
Like a mutual friend.
[17:08]
B
Yeah, exactly. Yeah. He another big like, dj. They're called dubs. They're also from Toronto, where he's from. And I knew one of their girlfriends at the time and she introduced us.
[17:18]
A
And were you like, I can't date a dj?
[17:21]
B
Yes. Yeah.
[17:23]
A
I was gonna say that would intimidate me because I'm not a going out type person. So.
[17:28]
B
Yeah, I mean I definitely was. I was, I was three, six at five. Party girl. Meant when I was 24. But like 19 to. Or 18 to 24. Like I was a party girl. I. I was in 1O.
[17:42]
A
I love it.
[17:44]
B
But I had been. I dated an actor for like two and a half years before I dated Andrew. And after that I was like so scarred. And I had told everyone, like, I just want normal Dr. Was this like a big person?
[17:58]
A
I don't need a name. But was it like a good.
[18:00]
B
He was like a teen. He's like on Disney.
[18:03]
A
Okay.
[18:05]
B
But famous enough that girlies would be.
[18:08]
A
Yeah.
[18:09]
B
A problem. Yeah. So I was like, I wanted somebody very street laced, nine to five normal. And then she showed me Andrew and I was like, DJ No. And she's like, no. Just like, give him a chance. And he wasn't. We always say, like, I don't know if we would even be together if it had not been Covid because we met in June 2020 or July 2020.
[18:31]
A
Oh, okay.
[18:31]
B
He wasn'. Shows.
[18:32]
A
Yeah.
[18:33]
B
And still to this day, like, who knows if we would even ended up together if he had been playing shows. Because he travels like four days a week every week and he's never at home and we would have never even had the time to get to know each other and spend that amount of time together for me to become so obsessed with him that I then no longer cared that he was a dj.
[18:50]
A
Yeah, sure.
[18:51]
B
But yeah, so it was definitely a blessing that he was home enough to. For me to like really get the chance to get to know him without having to worry about the DJ side of things. But yeah, I can't lie. Even. Even when he did start playing shows and things did start opening back up, it was definitely like tough for me in the beginning.
[19:05]
A
Oh.
[19:06]
B
I was like constantly, constantly being gone, girls everywhere, traveling. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[19:12]
A
How was your first date?
[19:13]
B
Great. We went to Barique in Venice.
[19:16]
A
Okay.
[19:17]
B
It was like. We went there because, again, covered. Nothing was open. Our options were, like, very minimal. And then bars were not allowed to be open, so we went to Saddle Ranch because that was allowed to be open because it had food.
[19:28]
A
Yeah.
[19:28]
B
And a mechanical bowl. And it was open until midnight, where everything else closed at, like, 10. So we went there. We had to order a food. Item. Item. For every drink we ordered. So he ordered, like, a. Like, literally. I'm not kidding. 20 food items that we didn't. We. They ended up just, like, not even bothering bringing it because we were like, we're not gonna eat them. We just want to drink.
[19:48]
A
Yeah.
[19:48]
B
Yeah.
[19:49]
A
Did you ride the mechanical bowl?
[19:51]
B
No, it wasn't running.
[19:53]
A
Damn it. Like, now they said, we'll serve you food and drinks, but that bowl is not going. Listen, you guys need of here.
[19:59]
B
Yeah.
[19:59]
A
Literally.
[20:00]
B
But, yeah. Our first date was, like, six hours long. And so.
[20:03]
A
Did you know right away?
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B
I wouldn't say. I. I knew that I, like, really liked him. I. I didn't know that he was going to be my husband because, again, like, the DJ thing was.
[20:13]
A
Yeah.
[20:14]
B
Was tough. And just, like, not knowing if he was in the right place. Like, I was 24. He was 26. It's not like we were, like, trying to, sure, get married and be together forever, but I. We definitely knew. We were, like, obsessed with each other.
[20:27]
A
Yeah. And you guys have been together, what, five years?
[20:29]
B
Yeah.
[20:29]
A
It's been a while.
[20:30]
B
Y.
[20:31]
A
And you're in a home that you're kind of, like, redoing right now, right?
[20:35]
B
Not necessarily. Like, we've had our house, like, three years. We just. Now that I don't have to worry about the wedding because I'm somebody, like, I love to just change up things all the time. And I'll. If I have a room that looks the same too long, I'll just, like, get bored of it.
[20:47]
A
I get the same way. I think it's, like, an itch I have where if something's the same, I'm like, I have to redo this entire thing.
[20:52]
B
Exactly. And so it's just, like, all the little things have been niggling at me for the last, like, two years that I. I put off because I was, like, doing the wedding stuff.
[20:58]
A
Yeah.
[20:59]
B
I now have, like, time to do, so I'm like, great. New guest room.
[21:02]
A
Yeah. When you were in the midst of planning your wedding, which I know you had a wedding planner.
[21:06]
B
Yeah.
[21:07]
A
What was your initial vision? Like, what were the Staple things that you're like, I know I need this at my wedding.
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B
Andrew wanted to be by the ocean. Like, ocean front. That's the only thing he wanted. We originally wanted to do Canada, where he's from, but then we just like, couldn't find a venue that was going to work for. He wanted late night. No, because a lot of wedding venues will have like, hey, the paint's really old, so you can't go above a certain amount of decibels. Hey, the floors are really old, so, like, you can't wear stilettos on the floor. Like all those things. And we say, like, Andrew was way more of a diva about the venue than I was.
[21:42]
A
Really?
[21:43]
B
Yeah. Because he wanted, like, no rules. No. Like, all he cared about was it being like a huge rave.
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A
Yeah.
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B
So that was kind of hard to find. And then we decided on Europe when we started looking at the difference in price between Europe and America.
[21:56]
A
Really?
[21:57]
B
Oh, yeah. Maybe I should consider the hot tea.
[22:01]
A
I do, because I'm playing my vowel renewal for next. Well, let me tell you, wedding, because I gotta hear all this.
[22:06]
B
I love seeing how much people. I mean, don't get me wrong, our wedding was not cheap. But like, I keep seeing videos that were like, this was a million dollar wedding. This was in the millions. All winning venue was €3,750.
[22:18]
A
You're fucking lying.
[22:21]
B
€3,750. It might have gone up since. Because that was two years ago when we booked it.
[22:24]
A
I'm looking at places in Malibu right now that are like, they're astronomical, but they're like, no loud. You have to be out by 10. No live band. All these restrictions. And I'm like, I'm sorry, why am I paying an arm and a leg when we have to be wrapped at 10pm? Yeah, we can't have the music that we want. Oh, and then you have to eat like certain food that they serve at the. I'm like, yeah, I want good food. I don't want like the classic.
[22:51]
B
This is exactly how we ended up getting American. Greece. Because we also. I mean, I know that it's like quite selfish to do destination because then everybody has to travel. But for us, my family's in the uk, his family's in Canada. Everybody was traveling anyway.
[23:04]
A
Okay, that makes sense.
[23:05]
B
We didn't really. There was not there. There wasn't even a place that we could have said, hey, we're doing it at home. That would have been home for everyone else. Like, to be honest, in the grand scheme of things, we only had like, 10 people from LA at the wedding, and everyone else was coming from different places. So that's the only downside. But, I mean, we loved Santorini. We loved Greece. We loved. I mean, it was just so. That's just so much more relaxed on, like, the wedding side of things. And again, like. Like you said, where you get. Bring in your catering, where you bring in the bar, everything you can, it's. It was a lot easier to personalize out there, which is why we ended up doing that.
[23:38]
A
Yeah. How was it? Because, I mean, yes, you had a planner, but do you think it was difficult planning a wedding that was in a different country or that didn't really affect it?
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B
I think that our planners were really amazing and hid a lot from us that was going on behind the scenes. They did. Hi. They did end up hiring somebody local to do kind of like the last six months because they were struggling with, like, the language barrier and a lot of places because, like, those little islands in Greece, like, I don't even read their emails. Like, you just go and hey. And they just like, yeah. Knock on the door. And that's how they communicate with each other. So I definitely think that Josiah did a really good job of, like, hiding from us that they were. People were slow to respond and stuff. But, I mean, obviously it ended up beautiful and it all worked out in the end.
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A
Yeah.
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B
But I definitely think it's. There was a few, like, language communication problems. But, I mean, that's why you get a good planet. Right. So for sure find somebody that lives there, if necessary, to go for them. And, yeah, they really did handle it. But, I mean, I would do it again 100 times over.
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A
Okay, good to know. I want to talk about the bridesmaids dresses, because they're just. My jaw was on the floor. That was the craziest thing I've ever seen. Talk me through why you chose to do that. By the way, she made the most insane bridesmaids dresses. If you guys did not see, you need to go look for her bridesmaids at her wedding.
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B
Yeah.
[24:57]
A
And they're gorgeous. And also the fact you've only been sewing for six or seven years and you whipped those up insane. You're telling me. I don't believe that you can't sew a bikini after seeing those.
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B
I can't. I swear. Now I'm gonna have to make a TikTok prove that I can't make a bikini that good. Yeah, no, I mean, I mostly made them for selfish reasons, which is that I couldn't find bridesmaid dresses that I like.
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A
Okay.
[25:22]
B
And the only ones that I could find were like Miss Sohi Couture gowns that cost 10 times more than even my wedding dress.
[25:28]
A
Yeah.
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B
Kind of off the table. Yeah. So it was literally just like, hey, I really, I really wanted this really specific aesthetic which are really, it's really popular in the Middle East. I have so many items I, I. To this day, I really want to share my Pinterest board of like all the places that I drew inspiration. But they were. There were so many designers in the Middle east and in the Far east that make these like, really beautiful couture, like beaded corseted gowns that are just like not that popular in the States. Like, the way they approach weddings in the Middle east and the Far east is so different than how they approach it here. And weddings here are much more casual. And so it would, it was just like every time I would find a bridesmaid dress that I wanted, it would be like on the other side of the world. And they didn't ship and they didn't speak English and all that. And so was like, right, great. I guess I'm gonna have to make them.
[26:12]
A
How long did it take you?
[26:14]
B
I started them in January. It took me. I mean, each dress took me between like 20 and 30 hours. But obviously I didn't do it all at once. Like, it was basically whenever I had a free evening, a free Saturday when Andrew was gone, I kind of interspersed it between all my other traveling and all my other stuff and all my other commitments that I had.
[26:31]
A
So it was just insane how they were different but also like so cohesive. Like you literally made your own mini collection. It was so cool and like a special thing to be able to show your kids or like, remember that like, I made those dresses.
[26:47]
B
Oh, we. I will not be showing the kids because my bridesmaids went swimming in their dresses at like 7 in the morning.
[26:53]
A
Oh, they said we're having fun.
[26:55]
B
They said we're getting in the pool.
[26:57]
A
That means you had a good ass wedding.
[26:58]
B
Yeah. So it's like TBD on the dry in the dry cleaners. If they can salvage them.
[27:02]
A
Oh, my God.
[27:04]
B
But I'm so glad. That's like my dream. I wanted everybody to be out until the sunrise and just like, like have so much fun.
[27:09]
A
Good. I love it. Yeah. The tik tok that you made of your dad made me die laughing. I think I commented something like, and then the grandkids will come along. Of of. It was something like your dad dancing and Then he was like, he realizes that I'm no longer his problem anymore.
[27:24]
B
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, my spending. And then wait till he spends it on the grandkids.
[27:29]
A
Yes, yes. That's what I was saying. Cuz I was like, oh, like, I'm such a daddy's girl. I love my dad.
[27:35]
B
Yeah.
[27:35]
A
But oh my God, when my kids were born, he's like, love you, but like, you're. You're brushed under the rug. Like, those kids are his world.
[27:44]
B
Oh, he's excited. He wants to be a granddaddy so bad. He already. Andrew and I, like, went to Disney the other week for the first. Like, Andrew's never been. I've been like once in my life. Like, we are. Yeah. And we were like, obviously, as you do, complaining about how much everything is at Disney. Like the pretzels, everything. And my dad's like, oh, my God. My God. I hated going on. I said, so are you gonna like, not go with your grandkids? I didn't say that. He's like, so excited.
[28:14]
A
That's really cute. Where did you guys honeymoon?
[28:17]
B
We went to the Amalfi coast. We did a few nights in Sicily and we went to the Amalfi coast. We got a little boat. I'm like, we got the smallest, cheapest, quote unquote yacht that we could find that just had two bedrooms and we just put the other one with luggage.
[28:32]
A
Wait, that's cool.
[28:34]
B
It was so it would actually be perfect for you and like the kids. It was so cute. We had a little crew of three people and they just like took us wherever we wanted. We woke up every morning in like a new place.
[28:44]
A
Wait, that's sick. So the whole honeymoon, you're sleeping on that boat?
[28:47]
B
Yeah. Yeah.
[28:49]
A
Whoa.
[28:49]
B
It was amazing. And it was not too expensive. In the end, it ended up. It ended up being the same price as like a bougie five star hotel.
[28:57]
A
Sure. But I mean, like, what an experience.
[29:00]
B
Yeah.
[29:00]
A
It was so cool.
[29:01]
B
It was amazing. We absolutely loved it.
[29:03]
A
And also being able to go to different places but not feeling like you're.
[29:06]
B
Traveling and you don't have to pack the lugg luggage and get everyone to the airport, drop the bags, wait for them to come out the other end, like all that stuff. Like, Andrew travels so much for work and I always tell him any day on vacation that I'm in an airport is not a vacation day for me.
[29:20]
A
No, no.
[29:21]
B
And he's somebody that can't sit still. He wants to see new places all the time. So that was like the best case Scenario for us where I got to rot and just, like, not do anything, but he still got to see a million places.
[29:32]
A
Good. And you. Did you have someone post wedding content for you while you were traveling or did you do that?
[29:39]
B
No. So uploaded everything. We did have a content creator that did the wedding day and the. And the day before. Her name was Yana. She was amazing. So she shot everything. She edited up a bunch of TikToks for me to just, like, upload, but mostly of just, like, the wedding day and the rehearsal dinner. And yeah, other than that, it was only, like, the. On my honeymoon and everything. I was like, uploading everything and.
[30:00]
A
Oh, damn, she's a working girl.
[30:01]
B
Yeah. And the. The whole. Because we launched on Vogue with, like.
[30:05]
A
Collab, which was insane.
[30:08]
B
Dude, it was crazy.
[30:09]
A
When. When you got that call, were you like.
[30:12]
B
It was so bizarre and surreal because I have heard so many tall tales of how people got their weddings into Vogue and it costs so much money and you have to do this and, like, yes. These hoops that you supposedly have to jump through. We. I literally, as my manager, because I don't have a publicist, I literally just asked my manager. I'm like, hey, can you reach out to them? Because we, like, had an email for. Because I've been. I've done something with Vogue before when I, like, cut up an outfit to edit the product show years ago. So we still have the email. Like, hey, they're gonna say no, because, you know, I'm not that big in the grand scheme of things. I'm not like, the wedding's not millions of dollars. We're like, hey, let's just send an email. The worst they're gonna say is no. But, like, why don't we just ask if they would be down to cover it? And I was just assuming it would be like, a quick no. They literally got back same day being, like, asked us a few details about my dress and about the venue and everything, which we obviously sent back, and they literally came back within 24 hours. And they're like, we would love to. We want. Want four tick tocks. Like, Vogue exclusive. I was just like, oh, okay, perfect. That was easy.
[31:12]
A
It's interesting because I've heard the same with, like, Vogue, Architectural Digest, Forbes. Like, you hear all these things of, like, oh, they paid to be in it. And then you talk to people behind the scenes. You're like, now, it's so weird how in this industry you hear, yeah, yeah.
[31:28]
B
And I especially think for Vogue, it was. They want something new to write about. Right. And so for me, it was like the bridesmaid dresses being DIYs was something interesting that they could write about us doing, you know, having Natasha Bedingfield. Another thing that we. Again, which. Which was sick.
[31:46]
A
No. Do you want to hear a sin?
[31:48]
B
Uh huh.
[31:48]
A
It's about this man right here. We're listening because he'll drive and I'll get ready in the car sometimes. And so I am playing my music and Natasha comes on. On Iconic. Right?
[31:59]
B
Yeah.
[31:59]
A
I'm. How old are you?
[32:00]
B
29.
[32:01]
A
Okay. I'm 30.
[32:01]
B
So we're.
[32:02]
A
We grew up in the same type of area.
[32:03]
B
Yeah.
[32:04]
A
And I. He goes, natasha, who. Who is this? And I said, what?
[32:10]
B
Voice of a generation.
[32:12]
A
No, it's. Even when Alex teased that Kid Cudi was going on the podcast, he thought it was Kelly Clarkson's album. He doesn't know kid. And I said, what the are you talking about?
[32:21]
B
Yeah.
[32:21]
A
So yeah, she. He was born in the years 2000.
[32:25]
B
You were gonna say 21. Like you're old enough to know Natasha.
[32:29]
A
I know. So anyways, she performed at her wedding.
[32:33]
B
Yeah, she did. Yeah.
[32:34]
A
That's not insane.
[32:35]
B
It was best 15 minutes of my.
[32:37]
A
No, when, When I saw that video, I said, when you guys were screaming and oh my God, it was the best. How did that happen?
[32:44]
B
Andrew and I, you know, we did. We knew we wanted somebody fun to perform because Andrew, he told everyone, I want the night off. I'm not DJing. Which obviously he DJed the entire thing. Yeah. Oh. The entire after party. We flew somebody in from Australia. He was amazing. Barely touched the decks because. But yeah, we knew we wanted somebody to perform. We really wanted nostalgia. We wanted like hits that everybody would know, but we knew that we. We couldn't afford like anything. Like, I, I mean, you don't really get bigger than Natasha Bedingfield for what we wanted. Like, she was absolutely perfect. But like I said, had originally wanted S club. I love S club. Andrew decided that nobody would. Not enough people would know it. And I said, excuse me, I'm not going to lie.
[33:25]
A
I don't know who that is.
[33:26]
B
Well, you're just proving his point. But yeah, you know what?
[33:30]
A
I'm going to do some research for you.
[33:32]
B
You'll know it. They were huge in the uk, but there's seven of them. That's the problem is. So.
[33:36]
A
Oh, is it like a girl band?
[33:38]
B
No, they were like a mixed boys and girls. Yeah.
[33:41]
A
Oh, period. Okay.
[33:42]
B
But yeah, it was. And then obviously getting somebody to agree to come to Tangerine was like, not that Easy.
[33:47]
A
Yeah.
[33:47]
B
But Natasha and Andrew actually have the same agent, so he, yeah, just like asked his agent like, hey, can you just ask like again? We just assumed it would be an L. But yeah, she said yes. She, she knew a lot of luxury. She knew me and yeah, she was like excited to do it.
[34:03]
A
Oh, I love it. That's so fun. Yeah, I've, I've heard like, I've had friends that like family friends, not even in the industry that. Because there's so many different like business endeavors in LA when you are here, like it's crazy how much money there is. But anyways, a friend of mine went to a part, a 50th birthday party for someone that worked in the marijuana industry and was like filthy fucking rich and he paid. Was it half a million or a million for like a 2 or a 15 minute performance from Snoop Dogg? Oh yeah, because he works in weed and so I loved it and it was a surprise and like all the drinks were named after his songs and stuff. But I was like that much money for that short of a weekend.
[34:47]
B
Oh, private. Like Andrew's private rate for birthdays, weddings, that is double his regular.
[34:55]
A
That's honestly iconic though, to be able to walk in, walk out and be like Cha Ching.
[34:59]
B
Exactly. Yeah. I love when he plays weddings. I'm like, great. Normally I get to go too. We're actually going to one in a couple weeks in south of France.
[35:05]
A
I'm like, oh, I am. I've never been to south of France, but it's on my bucket list because one of my friends actually just moved there and the photos that she has shown me is out of this world.
[35:18]
B
Oh yeah, girl, just start saving now. It's expensive. Oh my God. Yeah.
[35:22]
A
I mean I got kids tuition to pay now. Like that's what people do here in la. They pay for their kids to go to preschool. I said, what is this, usc?
[35:31]
B
Yeah.
[35:31]
A
Like, it's crazy. Speaking of, you guys want to have kids?
[35:35]
B
Yeah, yeah.
[35:37]
A
Later though.
[35:38]
B
No, I mean, not really.
[35:40]
A
Okay.
[35:40]
B
I mean, not pregnant yet, but hopefully soon.
[35:43]
A
Just let me know so I can come babysit for you. I love babies.
[35:47]
B
I know, it's. It's definitely scary, you know, just like we have such a nomadic lifestyle at the moment.
[35:52]
A
Yeah.
[35:52]
B
But I mean, it's definitely something that we want and I'm 30 in a couple months, so.
[35:57]
A
You'll figure it out. Honestly, like I, I feel like this whole week I've done interviews, giving advice on parenting. It's actually really funny, but I've said this multiple times. In my previous episode. Episodes. When you have kids because you live such a crazy life, just integrate your kids into your already existing life and not the other way around.
[36:15]
B
Yeah.
[36:16]
A
Like they'll be accustomed to traveling.
[36:18]
B
Yeah.
[36:18]
A
They'll be used to the chaos and it's gonna be great. Like what cool kids you guys are gonna have.
[36:25]
B
I know I. Andrew and I always say like we are gonna have to do some work to make sure that they don't end up the popular kid because like their dad's in love luxury. Like I can see objectively how that kid would be like the coolest kid in school. And I always say if you were a popular kid in school, like that's a kiss of Andrew. And I didn't have like four friends between us.
[36:43]
A
Yeah. Well I also think they're going to be the best dressed because of you.
[36:47]
B
And then you watch, I'm gonna end up with a tomboy that wants to play soccer and wearing baggy shorts and.
[36:53]
A
But they can make it cute. Like you'll teach them style. They can have their own, their own personal. You're like genuinely concerned no matter what.
[37:00]
B
I just really do pray I end up with just one little girly girl because I justify so much stupid stuff I buy as Dude, I need to.
[37:07]
A
Add you to my close friends. Cuz I was just posting the other day I was buying school clothes for the kids and I never share stuff like that publicly cuz I'm going to have someone complain about whatever I'm spending money on. But I ordered Stevie the cutest Ralph Lauren knit set for school. It's like this pleated navy.
[37:25]
B
So cute. I love the preppy kids with a.
[37:27]
A
Collared V neck sweater and then she has these knee high socks with navy Mary Jane jeans with a Ralph Lauren backpack.
[37:36]
B
So cute. No, I'm like, I always say like I'm. Because in England every kid, no matter what's. Whether you go to expensive school free like free state school, everybody wears a uniform.
[37:45]
A
Yeah.
[37:46]
B
So like the concept of getting dressed every day to go to school was like so crazy to me. And seeing like the hills and seeing them like wearing like what we would call like weekend clothes to school was like so crazy to me.
[37:59]
A
You're like they're wearing jeans. What the.
[38:00]
B
Yeah. And so now I like dread I because I, I just think about how much press on just like I mean in England we called it Mufty day which is like once a year where you could come in in your like regular clothes and it was a free for all. Oh my. If you didn't have the most expensive Abercrombie sweatshirt. You are cast aside. You know, And I can't even imagine doing that every single day. And so I'm really hoping for a uniform because Andrew had a uniform as well in Canada. Same thing. Like he also had to wear a uniform. So I'm just, just like I, we're, we're hoping for one of those. Can you imagine me having to get myself dressed every morning when I was like eight years?
[38:37]
A
Well, also you getting yourself dressed every morning even now and then adding a kid on top of that, not in a uniform. Your morning routine would take four hours.
[38:46]
B
Stevie, if she changes her outfits a lot, imagine when she started going to school and she. I don't like it.
[38:50]
A
Oh, I know, I know, I know. That's why I'm trying to take advantage now because I just have the ability to buy whatever. And so anything she puts picks looks cute.
[39:00]
B
Yeah.
[39:00]
A
But I know there's going to be a time where she comes home, she's like, mommy, this girl's wearing this. And I know my ham going to be like that's so no hard pass like Ziggy's so into like the huge chunky Nike shoes.
[39:14]
B
Uhhuh.
[39:14]
A
And I'm like, I love you so much. But like on his tiny little. It's just like, are so big in his like feet step like footsteps walking around are so loud. I'm like, do those even fit you? But it's cuz he sees kids at school, he's like, Nikes are cool. He came on one day goes, mom, Nikes are really cool. Can I get a pair? I said, how the do you know what Nikes are? They like pick up on that stuff at school.
[39:35]
B
Oh yeah, of course. Yeah.
[39:36]
A
So interesting. I asked you before but you said, mary, life doesn't feel any different.
[39:41]
B
No, I wouldn't say. I mean Andrew and I have lived in our house three years. We've been together five. Like I don't really. I feel like we were already married, you know?
[39:51]
A
Yeah. Yeah. At what age did you move to the States?
[39:54]
B
States? I, I started modeling when I was 16 and I got my first visa when I was 16, like pretty much right out the gate. And so I actually started working in the US before I even graduated high school.
[40:06]
A
Oh, wow.
[40:07]
B
Yeah. So basically the day I graduated high school was the day that I moved here. It was kind of more like with modeling, it's really common to go somewhere for two months, work on your book, maybe do a few jobs and then go somewhere Else. So I was kind of bopping around and I went to Tokyo, I went to Sydney, I went to Paris and to Milan and all those things. But like, my home base has been New York since I was 18. And then I moved to LA when I was 22.
[40:31]
A
Okay, did you, when you were traveling like that, were your parents with you?
[40:35]
B
Nope. When I was in high school, yes. My mom would come with me. And then I came for the summer when I was 17 and my mom just came. I was in like a shaper owned apartment. And so my mom came to like drop me off, just get me set up. And then she came back and I spent like eight weeks in New York. But that chaperone was a freaking skin. I didn't see that lady once.
[40:55]
A
Really?
[40:56]
B
She said miracle.
[40:57]
A
She said, roam free. You're like, thank God, I'm trying to party.
[41:00]
B
Anyway, I mean, but at 17, like, yeah, you're a grown up. Like, you can take care of yourself, you know?
[41:05]
A
Totally.
[41:06]
B
But yeah, I did not see that chaperone lady one time. Wow.
[41:09]
A
Do you think you would let your kids model?
[41:11]
B
Yes, but I would want them to be at least, at least, at least the same age I was, if not older. I mean, I think the modeling industry has come a long way, even in the last 10 years.
[41:21]
A
Yeah.
[41:22]
B
But I was one of my first, like, test shoots. I. I had been maybe modeling a year. I was in Paris. My mom was with me. My mom had come to, with me to Paris. She'd gone with me to the shoot, she dropped me off, she got me set up, like, hey, I'm gonna go get a coffee. I'll be back in 30. Like, anybody want anything? I'm just gonna, like, run to this pharmacy, get a coffee. I'll be back. Great. And it's just me and this man in his apartment. And basically the moment I, my mom left and she felt comfortable enough to leave me because we'd done so many of these shoots at this point. And I was also with the best agency in Paris. I was with Ford Models. You know, you go there with a sense of like, security that, you know, you're. You were sent there by adults that have worked with these photographers so many times. And like, obviously it's safe. And then basically within 10 minutes of my mom leaving, he's like, hands me this. When I say it was not even a tiny bit. Okay. It was a completely sheer dress. And I put it on and he's like, I can see your underwear and you need to take it off. And I. So I like, Took my bra off. And he's like, okay, and your panties too. And I was like, I don't feel comfortable doing that. And he looks me dead in the face. I'm 17 years old. I look like I was about 12. Looks me down in the face. And he goes, you know, I've shot a lot of famous models. I've shot Irene a shake. He pulls it up. I've shot all these girls. You know what? They all had balls. You know what? You're. You're never going to make it in this industry unless you have balls. Take the panties off. And I was like, you're a minor. Minor.
[42:44]
A
That already told him, I'm uncomfortable with that. Which. Good for you at 17 for saying that.
[42:49]
B
Yeah. And then I, My mom comes back, obviously he like, I kept him on, my mom came back, it's all fine. He doesn't say anything. I didn't say anything. And then obviously told my mom when we left and she's like, okay, I'm going to call the agent. Say like, you have to tell them, them that he said this to you. Like you. He's obviously preying on young girls. Like, you can't. He can't do that. And we told my agency and they said, yeah, he has a point.
[43:10]
A
He has a point. I'm sorry, in what re. In what world do you need to have your entire coochie out at 17? Like, listen, well, the, and, and being alone, away from your mom is the second that he says that.
[43:25]
B
Yeah, yeah, that's. Those are the kind of stories that I, I would be very like, careful to let my kid model.
[43:33]
A
Totally.
[43:33]
B
But I would do it. I mean, it gave me the best 20s ever. And I'm also so grateful that I saw the world. I made all, all my bridesmaids I met modeling. They're my best friends to this day. I had just like the most incredible once in a lifetime experiences. And I also never ended up with like, I mean, cautionary tale. Not everybody ends up like me. But also don't have any student debt. Cause I didn't go to college. I was working and instead of spending. So yeah, I think, I think it was definitely a really amazing thing to do and I'm so glad I did it. But I would. And I would let my kids do it, but I would definitely want them to be 18.
[44:07]
A
Yeah.
[44:07]
B
And I would be a momager. I'm there.
[44:10]
A
You're there every single day. Yeah. I feel like no matter what your kids end up doing because of both of your guys jobs and creativity and world experience. They're just gonna do something cool. Cool and creative.
[44:24]
B
Yeah. I'm sure they'll end up creative. I can't imagine will raise an accountant.
[44:27]
A
Yeah. I was gonna say almost just said like none of your kids are going into finance.
[44:31]
B
Yeah. You know, I mean Andrew did politics in university. I could see that. Yeah, yeah.
[44:35]
A
Wait.
[44:36]
B
Oh he is such a politician.
[44:37]
A
Wait, he was studying politics but he's a dj. I know. This is your.
[44:43]
B
Imagine how that conversation went. Mom and dad, I just graduated college and you spent all that money and I'm gonna go off to LA and be a DJ.
[44:49]
A
Now I was gonna say I know this is your interview but like I want to know this story.
[44:53]
B
So he also saints.
[44:55]
A
Was it just like a hobby for him?
[44:56]
B
Oh he and he and Joe. The other half of loud lecture. You can't make this up. They met in DJ club and they were the only two members.
[45:04]
A
That's really cute though. Oh my God.
[45:08]
B
We have a like DJ club at their college and they were the only two members.
[45:14]
A
That's really cute.
[45:16]
B
So cute.
[45:16]
A
I actually love that they are so successful though and like all their dreams.
[45:20]
B
I know, but imagine that.
[45:23]
A
Can you imagine a politician that's like. So I'm DJing tonight. This club like come on. He's like in.
[45:28]
B
I feel like if Arnold Schwarzenegger can be the governor of California he could do it.
[45:32]
A
You know what? You're telling no lies.
[45:35]
B
Yeah.
[45:36]
A
Yeah. David Love. My husband is obsessed with Arnold because when he was like before he was ever into politics because he used to be really big into bodybuilding and so he's like. He's so inspirational.
[45:48]
B
Really? I can't imagine your husband as a bodybuilder.
[45:50]
A
Oh he did. They are. I don't think you were there but he was showing someone a photo yesterday when I met my husband he cuz he's 65, he was like 250 pounds.
[46:01]
B
Wow. Say he's so tall and like slim.
[46:04]
A
He was huge. Like we would have to custom get. We would have to get his button downs all custom made because his neck.
[46:11]
B
Yeah.
[46:11]
A
Was so wide. Yeah. Wild. But then he was like. He started becoming really miserable in the gym. Like he was working out multiple days a week. He would have to. He doesn't like food. He's not like a foodie. Like he doesn't really enjoy eating.
[46:27]
B
That's why you do those Crumble those Crumble videos by yourself.
[46:30]
A
I thank you for understanding because I literally am like I'm. All I'm thinking about is when I I'M eating next. Like I love food and I look forward to a good restaurant. He's just not like that. So he would have to force himself to to eat around 8, 000 calories a day to maintain the weight.
[46:45]
B
Yeah.
[46:46]
A
Cuz he's naturally very thin and he was like, why am I doing this? Like this is so miserable.
[46:50]
B
Yeah.
[46:51]
A
So.
[46:51]
B
But I was also like, okay, I don't gain anything.
[46:54]
A
No. I'm like, you're blessed. You can eat whatever you want. Like he'll sit on the couch after he gets the munchies and eat an entire bag of jalapeno Cheetos and then an entire pack of like family size Oreos. Yeah, if only. See, that's why I was so I was £200 when I gave birth because I was eating crispy cream by myself and I'd have to finish an entire dozen. I feel like from the time I open my eyes to the time I go to bed, my day is so jam packed that sometimes it's hard just to fit in the smallest things. That is why Instacart always saves the day for me. Delivery through Instacart is so quick and easy and makes sure that I have the essentials I need for my family life to run smooth. When life's full and times tight, Instacart helps you stay on track. Instacart is more than a grocery app. It's a care company that works around your schedule. 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[51:36]
B
Huh?
[51:37]
A
Because I think it's so good when you, like, wake up in the morning or getting dressed. What's going through your mind? How do you start an outfit?
[51:44]
B
It depends how much time. Today I had about two seconds. So.
[51:48]
A
Yeah, but you look fab in your Chanel to top.
[51:50]
B
I. I think that I. When I'm shopping, I only. I don't think about, like, what's interesting was not. I just buy things that I like. I love color. I love interesting things. I feel like it originally started, like, way back in, you know, when I first started doing videos and doing TikTok. It was like I was looking for, like, cool, unique pieces that would get views and go viral and stuff. And now I don't really do that so much anymore just because I feel like it got stale and people got used to seeing that. That. But I do feel like it influenced my sense of style and it made me much more adventurous and much more excited to try new things. And I definitely feel like it's made my style develop into just like, I'll pick something that I think is unique, that I think is interesting, that calls to me, and then I'll just, like, base my outfit around. Around that, I guess.
[52:35]
A
Yeah, you always have fun. And I feel like nowadays especially everyone's in so into neutrals, which I get. Like, there are amazing neutral moments. Don't get Me wrong. And same with like house design. Like, people color shocked how much color I'm putting.
[52:50]
B
Just you wait till my next house. Because Andrew and I, our house right now, it's very mid century. It's like from the 50s. It looks like it's from the 50s, but with like an 80s Renault job. And so I don't feel like it makes sense to decorate it the way I want to decorate it. Like we have it decorated, in my opinion, very neutral, very like California modern.
[53:13]
A
Because the way you said that was like, so California. Yeah.
[53:16]
B
Yeah. But in my heart, in my soul, I was want a like crazy colorful granny cottage.
[53:22]
A
Like eclectic kind of.
[53:24]
B
Yeah. With like molding everywhere, wallpaper in every room. Like that is what I love. And like, same with my closet. Like, I feel like in winter I literally might as well not post for 6 months because I suck at outfits in the winter because I hate black. I hate like winter clothes. Like, I love bright colors, I love patents, I love prints. Like that, that is me. And that's why I feel I thrive in the summertime. But our next house, oh, girl, it's gonna look like somebody threw up in there with all the color.
[53:51]
A
Oh, yeah. Like every single one of my rooms is so different. But I wanted that. I was like, I want a different stone and tile in every single bathroom.
[54:00]
B
Yeah.
[54:01]
A
To make it look like a different house in every bathroom. I want color, I want shape, I want like texture. Like, I have a lot of stone in the house too. People like you have so much color because neutrals are so trendy. But I love, love how your personality really shines through your clothes because you have that like, very bubbly, eclectic, fun personality.
[54:22]
B
Yeah.
[54:22]
A
But you never shy away from color. Even in the winter though. Like you always have fun with.
[54:26]
B
Yeah, well, I'm already trying to get ahead of it and so I've been stocking up now whenever. Yeah, I love how women dress in the South. Like, I just went to my friend Merit is from Wilmington. I just went there and her friend has a boutique and I loaded up on all of the winter stuff because they, they wear so much more color in the, the South.
[54:42]
A
What do you, what did you find that you got like western?
[54:45]
B
No, no, it's like I got this little green. It's like olive green. Like print two piece with like feathers on it. But it's like you wear it with like a brown boot and a brown coat. And it's fun. But it's, you know, like fall, winter they had like all these really cute like, greens and Browns, like, little matching sets of, like, sweater and a skirt and stuff. And. Yeah, I just. I love. I love the fun. I love the patterns. I love the colors. And I feel like the women in the south, they really do that. They do it.
[55:11]
A
They do it. And also, it's, like, the perfect style to have as a DJ wife. Because you have fun.
[55:15]
B
Yeah. Oh, yeah. I mean, I don't. I always look so out of place at shows because I will wear my little preppy.
[55:21]
A
No, I love your proposal video because your dress was, like, so hot. Red with the low back.
[55:27]
B
Oh, that dress wants me. I wish I didn't wear that dress. Why?
[55:30]
A
I thought that dress was so hot.
[55:32]
B
I mean, I love the dress. I. I just hated how I styled it, but I only had what I had in my suitcase. Like, I hate the shoes I put with it. I hate that I wouldn't have worn it. Worn black tights. I would have worn brown tights or no tights. I would have, but it was in Toronto, and it was winter, and so it was, like, negative 20. Obviously, I need tights. And then, like, the shoes were. Why did I wear white shoes? I don't know. Because I wanted to be comfortable, and my only, like, black shoes were stilettos, and I knew I can't wear. If I had known I was getting engaged, I mean, I sort of knew I was getting engaged, but I didn't know specifically what day I would have thought about it when I packed. And I would have styled that dress a lot differently.
[56:05]
A
Were your nails done?
[56:07]
B
Yes, because my friends Adrian. I mean, we'd been together a long time. I knew we were getting engaged, but the jig was really up when my friend Sasha was like, hey, let's go get our nails done today. I'll pay for it. Like, let's just go.
[56:18]
A
And you're like, what the. Where's his energy been? Like, why have you never offered to pay for my nails?
[56:24]
B
Yeah, if I didn't before, I definitely knew that.
[56:26]
A
Oh, my God.
[56:27]
B
Nails were done.
[56:28]
A
Okay. We like to end our show with a little rapid fire. Are you ready? Ready. Okay. Favorite show or festival from last year.
[56:36]
B
Oh, my gosh. When was that? Lollapalooza. Was that last year?
[56:39]
A
I just learned about that. That's in Chicago.
[56:42]
B
Yeah. Andrew played it last year. It was sick. I had. I'm. I wore my Moschino loud luxury bag. It was like a fanny pack bag. That Moschino did a whole collection that was called loud luxury.
[56:52]
A
Oh, that's cool.
[56:53]
B
So obviously, I bought it. Bought it Even though it was really overpriced. But yeah, Andrew played in it with was like his biggest festival ever. Yeah.
[57:01]
A
Yeah. It was fun. Yeah we just. I just had one of my friends on Laura and she was like oh we just got back from Lalapalooza. I said I literally thought she was making up. I said what the is that?
[57:09]
B
Oh it's huge.
[57:10]
A
Yeah, I am. I don't know. Do you know my husband goes to EDC every single year. Does he really seen Andrew last five years?
[57:16]
B
Which one? The one in Vegas. Yeah, definitely seen Andrew before.
[57:19]
A
Yeah. Literally the last five years. That's so funny. I'm gonna tell him. I'm just like I'm friends with his wife so. Who. Who the fuck are you? Okay, go to drink order when you're going out.
[57:31]
B
Depends on what I'm doing. Espresso martini or a rose. Honestly, I'm getting old. I. I love my wine these days.
[57:38]
A
Dude. No me, I hit 30 and I said I don't order anything but wine.
[57:42]
B
No. Or unless espresso martini if I'm in the club.
[57:43]
A
I was going to say unless I have to stay awake.
[57:46]
B
Yes.
[57:46]
A
Then I have to get an espresso martini to literally keep my eyes open.
[57:49]
B
Yeah. And then the worst is when I have to go watch Andrew shows and my options are vodka or tequila. Oh God.
[57:55]
A
And it's like really shitty vodka tequila options. Yeah. Yeah. Oh my God. I like it's hard for me to drink unwell hydration as much as I love it cuz every time we're at unwell events they mix it.
[58:05]
B
It's vodka and unwell with Yes. I have to say I did have a good amount of vodka at that event with Chase chased by my unwell and I had no hangover the next day.
[58:14]
A
It's the best because it actually keeps you hydrated. Like it really is great for a hangover.
[58:19]
B
Yeah.
[58:19]
A
Yeah it was great but I can't mix it with alcohol alcohol anymore because I'm like it's. I can't anymore. I gotta just have it straight.
[58:25]
B
Yeah.
[58:26]
A
Okay. What's your favorite comfort show or movie?
[58:29]
B
Andrew asked me this the other day. What's your favorite movie? And I was like genuinely I couldn't tell you because I have a million like movies I love. I. I don't know if I have a favorite.
[58:36]
A
I thought you're gonna say like the holiday because you're talking about holiday comfort show.
[58:39]
B
I. I have been suffering through the summer. I turned pretty recently girl.
[58:44]
A
Okay. I stopped watching after a couple episodes. I'm so sorry. I thought it was so chuk.
[58:51]
B
Okay. So I saw the very first two episodes of the summer. I turned pretty at the first premiere on the first influencer brand trip Amazon ever did in 2022.
[59:01]
A
Okay.
[59:02]
B
They previewed us the first two episodes. I'm sitting there like, this is for tweens. Like, I'm way too old to be watching this. And I. We got to the end of the second episode and I was like, maybe when it comes out, I got so obsessed. I've watched every episode. I love it. But this most recent season has been brutal. Brutal.
[59:21]
A
Okay, so I should finish watching it.
[59:23]
B
Definitely.
[59:24]
A
All right. That's like going to be one of those solo shows I watch and I travel without my husband because he.
[59:28]
B
I have those two. I got Wednesday loaded up for next time Andrew's gone. Because I love that show you've been watching.
[59:33]
A
Hunting Wives.
[59:34]
B
Yes. Finish that one. Holy worst mistake I ever made watching that on the plane.
[59:39]
A
Oh, what were you thinking? While they're all munching box the guy next I had.
[59:45]
B
I had an older man sitting next to me. And I am just like, I'm trying to skip when they're. When they're doing.
[59:50]
A
And you know, he's like.
[59:50]
B
He was. He said. I kept looking over, he's like this. And I literally didn't feel like. I'm like, they're gonna kick me off. They're gonna accuse me of watching.
[59:58]
A
Is that Brittany Snow?
[59:59]
B
Yeah. Yeah. He's watching it over my shoulder the entire time.
[60:03]
A
Oh, my God. We're on episode like five, I think. And it's getting so. Last night it was midnight and we can't stay up late, especially on a weekday, because we know our kids are gonna be up. And I was like, I can't turn the show off.
[60:13]
B
No, it's so good.
[60:14]
A
So good.
[60:15]
B
Yeah. Oh, my friend Mallory, who works in film, she told me that there's been like 2 billion minutes of that show watched or something. It's crazy. Yeah, yeah.
[60:23]
A
It's cuz everyone wants to see them eating, munching on box. Like, come on. It's like all these housewives at home that are like, damn, I need cooler friends.
[60:33]
B
Like, I know that that show got really juicy. That was really good.
[60:35]
A
Yeah, it's really juicy. Good. I'm really into it. Okay. Also, did you ever watch Scandal? Yes.
[60:40]
B
Obsessed.
[60:40]
A
Okay. Did you notice that Lindsay, DWI and Scandal is the pastor's wife in hunting.
[60:47]
B
One Quinn from Scandal is. Yeah. Yes. Oh, of course. I clocked that episode.
[60:51]
A
I literally saw her and said I'm obsessed with her. Yeah, I know. I just called her Lindsay because that's like her birthday.
[60:57]
B
That was her, that was her name in Scandal, right? Yeah, I loved Scandal. I actually just started. I. I saw Jake Shane posting on TikTok that he was showing his friend Scandal for the first time. The first time. And I was like I just to.
[61:08]
A
Do a re watch before we started hunting wise I just finished Scandal for like probably like the 4th or 5th time. Scandal anytime I like need something in the background. Yeah, always watching Scandal. Actually I just went to Beyonce's last concert at Cowboy Carter tour and Carrie was there with her daughter.
[61:23]
B
Love her.
[61:23]
A
She is. I'm sorry, she's an aged in 20 years.
[61:26]
B
Yeah.
[61:27]
A
She is one of the most beautiful people I've ever seen.
[61:29]
B
Yeah, no, she's stunning obsessed there.
[61:31]
A
Okay, what's one beauty product you can't live without?
[61:36]
B
Kerastos Elixirol Team the hair oil. Really Best hair oil ever. Okay, I should try. I have crazy dry hair and it like only oil I've ever used that actually keeps my ends like soft enough and like not breaking and like this is the longest I've ever been able to grow my hair in my life. And I mean I did a lot more than just that. But that oil is the like if I run out when I'm traveling, I'm like, I have to use something else the same. It's the best.
[62:06]
A
I'll order it, I'll get it. Who's the most famous person in your phone? You're like my husband.
[62:14]
B
A few people, but like can I look?
[62:17]
A
Yeah, of course.
[62:19]
B
I had at one point Leonardo DiCaprio.
[62:21]
A
You're lying. Why do you look like his type? Tenfold.
[62:26]
B
Imagine, imagine when I was under 25.
[62:30]
A
I was say at the prime age of about 19.
[62:34]
B
Exactly.
[62:34]
A
You were this type.
[62:36]
B
Yep. But I mean I went to a few house parties.
[62:39]
A
Where did you get that number?
[62:41]
B
Because I knew him like he used to call me Manchester because he couldn't remember my name.
[62:45]
A
So he was like, oh, he remembered Manchester.
[62:47]
B
Remember? He remember Manchester. But yeah, no, he, I mean he. I don't want to get myself in trouble, but. But he, he frequents with all the promoters in New York, all the model promoters that bring out the models and stuff. So I would go to like party. He would host like game day parties at his apartment and stuff like that. And so I would like go to those.
[63:05]
A
Was he nice?
[63:07]
B
He was actually really nice.
[63:08]
A
Okay, that's good. At least he's a nice guy.
[63:10]
B
Yeah, he's really sweet.
[63:11]
A
Damn. Okay. I love. You're just like casually like probably Leonardo DiCaprio.
[63:18]
B
I don't know that I still have his number though. I'm trying to see who I sold.
[63:21]
A
You did at one point. That's goals.
[63:23]
B
I did at one point. You know who I do have? The brother from Will Polta. Again, I've never texted him. I've texted him probably once 10 years ago. But I still have his numbers. Eight for some reason.
[63:34]
A
Wow. Okay.
[63:36]
B
Again, met him at the club when I was at. When I was 21 in the club.
[63:40]
A
He said hey.
[63:42]
B
But he was there with his girlfriend at the time. I think, like, yeah, I think when I, you know, when I was that age, like anybody that was British, I was always just like, yeah, let's be.
[63:49]
A
Best friends for sure. Okay. Favorite color?
[63:55]
B
Pink.
[63:56]
A
Pink.
[63:56]
B
Oh yeah.
[63:57]
A
Okay. This is mostly for people that struggle with fashion or putting together something. What's a go to outfit for people in a pinch? Like with basics?
[64:08]
B
I, I mean, I always tell everyone I love an sls. I call an sls like a slutty little sundress because you don't have to think about anything. Like, I have a collection of slutty little sundresses that I'll just like. Because you just take it out, you toss it on. Done. And then you just need like shoes in a bag.
[64:24]
A
Yeah.
[64:25]
B
And then a sweater if it's cold. So that's always like my formula for like if I'm in a rush. I actually tried to put one on today, but then I couldn't find the one that was clean.
[64:33]
A
What's of a non heel old summer sandal? You think that's, that's good in the summer? Because I need. I was thinking about buying the Loewe ones with a big gold ball on it. Have you seen those? I. I tried them on. They're so comfortable.
[64:49]
B
Okay. So I haven't tried those. I bought a pair from Bottega like that I thought were going to be really comfortable and they are not.
[64:55]
A
Yeah. And Chanel sandals always give blisters.
[64:58]
B
Okay. But I swear by the Chanel ballet flat with the strap, those are insanely comfortable.
[65:05]
A
Really?
[65:06]
B
Even though the ballet flat without a strap. Miserable. The ballet flats are not good. But the ones, the little like Mary Jane style ones are insanely comfortable.
[65:13]
A
Okay.
[65:14]
B
And so I always buy those if I see them because they also, they don't last that long. They don't wear that well. But they're really comfy otherwise. I mean, I like these. They're not really flats though. But they're.
[65:26]
A
Yeah, it's like I was gonna say you and your cute little Chanels come back. I saw them. Humans. Well, this is really fun. What. What do you have coming up that people can look forward to besides being a wifey so much?
[65:39]
B
I am off to Ohio next week to redo somebody's decorate dorm room which is going to be fun for a little girl. Her name's Hannah. Yeah.
[65:47]
A
Oh, I love that.
[65:48]
B
That's gonna be great. So we're filming all that for my YouTube and my tick tock. I am sewing my best friend's wedding dress. That's coming up.
[65:55]
A
Yeah, girl, you're taking on all these projects.
[65:58]
B
I got lots in the cow for the rest of the year.
[66:00]
A
I love it. Okay. Where can people find you to keep up?
[66:03]
B
Tik tok, Instagram, YouTube. I'm on all the things, all the platforms.
[66:06]
A
What's your handle?
[66:07]
B
So people know at Madeline underscore white on TikTok, Madeline Cy on Instagram and I think my YouTube's Madeline underscore.
[66:17]
A
Why you just had to make it difficult and do all.
[66:19]
B
Well, I tried to get Madeline Underscore White on Instagram because that's what I had first.
[66:23]
A
But it's taken and I know. Well, you can. Did you find anyone with the username you want? Because you can.
[66:27]
B
Yeah, he uses it. She's in Australia and she really did she. She really does. Because sometimes it'll be like an inactive account and Instagram will just give it to you. Yeah, but I can't. I'm.
[66:37]
A
You got to play around with that username. You could figure out something.
[66:39]
B
Yeah.
[66:40]
A
Well, thank you so much for being here. I really appreciate it. I think you're such a gem and a doll and I'm excited to see your future and being a wife and a mommy in the future.
[66:49]
B
Thank you. Me too. Hopefully.
[66:50]
A
Cheers guys.
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