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i don’t trust men | becca moore
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Creator and podcast host Becca Moore joins Avery at the Unwell studio for a convo that’s equal parts hilarious and heartfelt. They laugh about arch-nemesis drama, the randomness of internet beefs, and the early TikToks that turned Becca into everyone’s favorite sarcastic storyteller. Becca also opens up about growing up in Ohio, moving to LA, and how her online persona differs from the vulnerable side she shares on her podcast For the Girls.
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C
Hi, Becca. How are you? So good. I'm having a great morning. You guys are so nice. I love your little team. It's like fun.
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B
Oh, my God, thank you. You're so gorge. Like, you walked in and I said, how can someone be even hotter in person?
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C
Stop. I love you.
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B
Your little mini script.
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C
No, we will.
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B
And it's funny because I was like, I just started my period.
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C
I feel like you look stunning.
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B
You're so nice. But I was. I'm just wearing sweatpants. You walk in this little mini skirt and heels. And I said period. Thank you for dressing up for. For us today.
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C
For the both of us. I like it. It's like fun. But I'm also like, that is, I live in like a sweatsuit. Every day. Same.
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B
But you, like, really pulled.
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C
Your hair is like, beautiful. Oh, my God.
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B
Thank you.
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C
And your face.
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B
It's Eric. He put like 40ft of tape ins in my hair. Yeah, My hairdresser.
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C
I have K tips. Yeah.
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B
Oh, okay. You have K tips.
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C
Yeah.
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B
Okay. I'm like, learning about extensions. I'm new to it.
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C
Wait, last night, actually, I was. This morning I was watching your episode with Brooke Schofield.
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B
Oh, I love her. Yeah.
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C
And did you know that we had like a war?
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B
No. Yeah.
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C
No, no. We're back together. We were together last night at a hair event. That's what made me think.
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B
Oh, okay. Wait. I kind of want to.
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C
I want.
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B
I want the lore. Like, what?
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C
Yeah. You didn't know that.
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B
No, I literally did not know that.
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C
That was, like, my biggest scandal for, like, a couple years. Like, we. Yeah, we, like, had this huge, like, public kind of thing. Well, okay, I was supposed to be on her podcast or. No, I was supposed to have a podcast with her. I'm sorry. Sorry, guys. I've had, like, three cups of coffee.
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B
If I'm like, no, you're fine. I'm literally drinking an Alani as we're talking.
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C
I used to love those things. Damn, they should sponsor me.
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B
I love Becca Needs pr.
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C
Literally.
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B
Some Milani's.
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C
Yeah, we were supposed to have a podcast, and I, like, backed out at the last minute, and she was rightfully so, like, upset with me. And then she, like, went on her podcast uncanceled and, like, started talking about what happened, and I was just really mad at her for, like, she went. She talked about it, like, on three different podcasts, and I, like, understand now why she did that, but I was so mad at the time. We were, like, enemies. Like, she was my archdeacon.
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B
Wait, I did. I literally had no idea. I'm going to go look up all of this later.
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C
Yeah, maybe don't rehash that. Honestly, she was like, right. You know, when, like, you kind of do fudge up. Like, I did not communicate. I thought that, but I got to tell her last night because it was, like, my first time, like, actually having, like, a long conversation with her. It was honestly because of, like, boy drama behind the scenes. Oh. That's why I backed out. And, like, my. I had just signed to, like, a new agency, and I got to, like, finally, like, tell her the truth of, like, why I did it. And that was, like, healing, I think.
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B
For both of us, for sure.
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C
But, yeah, we are friends again, finally.
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B
I feel like when you have a social media drama made up drama, whatever the case may be, and you can finally, like, see that person in real life, it's always like, yeah, this is.
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C
You're actually just a girl. Yeah, you're just a girl. I built her up to be, like, my enemy for so long, and then when I'm. When you grow. I was 23 when, like, this whole war went down, and, like, I thought that I would hate her forever. And then you're like, that was funny. Like, it's. It's fun to have, like, an arch nemesis, like, for lore reasons, but at the end of the day, it's like, whatever. You know what I mean?
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B
Have you ever had any other, like, arch nemesis on social media? Like, any other war food?
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C
God, who the is Food God. I talk about him way too much. I'm really giving this man, like, a lot of free pr, but, like, he is Kim Kardashian's, like, ex best. I don't know if they're still. This one. Wait, that guy? Yes. John, if you look up on his Wikipedia if it still says that we're dating. We weren't. We never did.
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B
I. I was gonna say I know him as Jonathan, but I like Food God.
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C
Beckham. I want to see if it comes up.
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B
Wait, so you're basically what you're saying is you're a Kardashian.
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C
Yes.
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B
Okay, got it.
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C
Adjacent. Yeah. Okay, got it. I just, like, started a random war with him one day, and then he got mad, and he, like, blocked me on every platform. Every platform. And then I, like, made a video, another video about it being, like, fugu. Just blocked me on. I didn't even tweet about him. He blocked me on Twitter, Instagram, TikTok and YouTube or something. Like Crazy Tantrum, Snapchat or something. Yeah. All because I said, like, if I was president, I would put him on house arrest, which, like, God forbid, I would. Why would you need to be on house arrest?
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B
Wait, why would you.
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C
I just don't like him. I don't know.
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B
Oh, okay.
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C
I just don't like him.
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B
Yeah, no, I get it.
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C
He's, like, evil online. Like, he. He cyberbullies, all these. I don't know. It was just a random day. But, yeah, that one I feel like was warranted. And he's still my arch nem. Food gone.
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B
Just like a normal Wednesday for you.
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C
Yeah, I can do that tomorrow. No, literally, I can have a new one tomorrow.
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B
Yeah. I think you're my favorite type of person to exist because you're hot and funny. That never exists anymore. I feel like people. No, here's my thing. And you can agree or disagree, but I feel like social media has gotten a little bit too serious lately. Like, yeah, hot girls don't want to be funny or do funny trends because they just want, like, that aesthetic hotness. Why can't we be both?
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C
There is, like, I know anytime I try to be hot online, like, it gets, like, two views. I'm like, okay, I'm gonna stick in my niche.
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B
But no, literally, I posted a video this morning of me in my nightgown last night using powers to pour a glass of wine in my hair bonnet. I've never looked worse. But it's fucking funny. Like, I don't care, you know?
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C
I know. And I. I Will say there is, like, a stereotype that, like, pretty. There's like, pretty girl humor. And it's like, like, I, I hate that vibe. Like, not to be pick me. Like, I'm different than most girls, but.
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B
There is so different.
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C
Yeah. Like, I'm different. I know. Everyone should be hot. I like being hot.
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B
Yeah.
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C
It's fun.
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B
Well, I mean, yeah. You walked in this mini skirt and I said, damn, look at those legs. Yeah. Sorry. No, I followed you a really long time ago. I followed you for years. Yeah. I remember, like, when you first started blowing up and you would do those videos talking about your, like, guys that would DM you.
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C
Yes.
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B
And you'd just be like, ew. And like, stop.
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C
And I was like, oh, geez.
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B
Oh, yeah.
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C
Yeah. That's crazy. Oh, yeah.
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B
I followed you for so long, like, so long ago. And I remember your dry, sarcastic humor. I was like, that's my exact type of humor.
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C
Some people don't get it still. I don't know. But yeah, I was like, rating dms I would get from men. And then I did, like, the loyalty test. Not to, like, really dig up my lore, but yeah. I used to like, DM girls, boyfriends, and.
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B
Yes.
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C
And, like, see if they would cheat.
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B
Yes.
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C
They would, like, pay me. I needed money back then. Oh, they're giving me, like, $5. Yeah.
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B
Wouldn't they say, like, this is my boyfriend, DM him?
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C
Yes. Yes.
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B
Okay, I remember that.
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C
Yeah. And then I got so much, like, content. Those that honestly made me, like, jaded from, like, dating men. I do think that, like, I have this, like, I, I, I think there is something in me that is like, Like, I don't trust men very much. Like, I know I make a joke about it online, but, like, I don't believe that any man is, like, loyal right now. I don't know why.
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B
Thinking about the last 12 years of.
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C
My husband, I'm like, no, not your husband, though that one doesn't count. Like, I do think that, like, yeah, there is something in me that's like, yeah, I don't really know.
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B
Do you think that's because of you pulling those pranks or is that because of your other experience with vin?
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C
I think I just internalize everyone's, like, crazy stories. Like, even the tiktoks that I see of girls being like, who the fuck did I marry? And then, like, I had a bad experience with a couple guys that I date or, like, one guy that I dated. And then even, like, the girl that I like, the masculine energy. Like, something about that I don't trust it anymore. Like, something. I'm, like, really doing, like, therapy right now, but I don't know.
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B
I love that, and I love therapy.
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C
No, same.
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B
Okay. I want to know about your background, where you came from, and, like, starting on social media. You're from Ohio? Yeah.
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C
Yeah.
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B
When did you come to la?
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C
Like, three years ago, I think. I was in Nashville. I was writing for a sorority blog. Like, I was the. The voice of Total frat move. And then I quit, and then I came to la. So it was, like, three years ago, and I was supposed to do a podcast with Brooke.
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B
Oh, yeah. That's kind of giving, like, Gossip Girl energy. You writing for Sorority vlog?
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C
I know. I've done, like, so many different live. Yeah, that was weird.
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B
How did you grow up? Like, did you have a normal childhood? What was your. What was growing up in Ohio like?
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C
I. We were poor compared to, like, my friends, at least. Like, we lived in the suburbs, but, like, on, like, the poor street in the suburbs. And I always used to talk about that, but then I went home, and then I. My sister was like, I really think you should stop telling people that we were poor, because other people have it so much harder, and she's so right. Like, there's so many levels of, like, poverty. I thought that we were living in poverty. Like, we were on every financial, like, assistance that you could be on, so I just assumed that we were, like, really poor, but other people have it worse. Anyway, yeah, I kind of grew up being, like, if I can make, like, $30,000 a year, like, I will be set for life. And I didn't ever think that I could live in la. Like, that was never even, like, on the table. I always knew that I, like, love to entertain my friends, but I thought that I would be doing that, like, in a corporate setting, like, being, like, the silly one. And, like. Yeah, the.
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B
The sorority that you wrote a blog for. Did you go to school there?
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C
I went to Ohio University. And no, it was like. It was like, I got that job after I started making TikToks.
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B
So did you graduate from college?
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C
Yeah.
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B
What did you study?
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C
Communications and marketing.
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B
Oh, okay. Makes sense.
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C
Yeah. I never thought, though. I thought I would be working in hr, so this is, like, a crazy pivot. But I was writing for, like, every sorority. Like, I was just, like, a random. It wasn't for, like, my specific one, but then, like, that company, I think, went bankrupt, so. Oh, sorry. I hope it wasn't my fault.
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B
Rip. Sending love to them.
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C
I know. I miss them. So.
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B
So when did you start posting content? Seriously?
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C
I think this, the first video I made went viral. So I was like, ever. Well, the first one, I mean, technically it was like my mom being like crazy. Oh, awesome. And then the second one, yeah, it was like me rating my like date party dates when I was in a sort. Were you in a sorority? You know what I'm talking about when I say okay, no, like a date part. You were okay. Date parties are like when a guy like invites you to his like, party and then you're his date. So it's like basically that. And I would like rate them and like make fun of the men that I was going on dates with. And that went. I mean, back then though, it was like easier to go by. It was like 2021. So easy.
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B
I remember in like 20, 19, 20.
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C
I was anti tick tock back, dude, anything you posted.
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B
And I think back and I'm like.
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C
I could have like a millionaire if I was like posting back then. I wish I did.
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B
Anyone could have been a Charlie d'. Amelio.
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C
Literally.
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B
You're just consistent. But I would. I was also working as a full time nurse during the pandemic. So like, I didn't have time. But good for you. I would post like one tick tock and then 4 months later post another one. I look back and I'm like, every single one of those tick tocks were getting hundreds of thousands of views and I had no followers.
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C
I was like addicted to it right away. I was like, oh, this is awesome. I'm a waitress in Ohio. I'm going to keep going. It was like on unemployment and yeah, just like every day. I was like, before work I would like make one tick tock because I was like, I have so many stories about men and I like hate all these men. It's so easy. Like I have so much material. And then I. Total sorority move or total frat move reached out to me and I was like, okay, bye, I'm leaving. I was a bartender. I like kept going for like a year in Ohio. Like taking. I took it seriously because I was like addicting. Like, I was like, you guys like this. I have so many of these. Like, I can keep going. I really loved it and I still do love it. But yeah, it's definitely evolved.
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B
Yeah. And I just think the way you went about it was so funny and. But you also have like that kind of on character or on screen character that you like. Your Persona is so different. So it's interesting to me too, like watching your Podcast. Seeing you in like your.
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C
More not in character.
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B
Yeah, like your true self.
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C
Yeah, I'm very different.
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B
Yeah. But I also think everyone kind of has that right. Like, unless you're a lifestyle creator. Like, I feel like I'm the same person, but like if you have a niche, like you kind of feed into that which you know is going to do well. And like you're being funny and sarcastic. But you also have a very like, intuitive side for your podcasts, which I really appreciate.
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C
Thank you for saying that. Yeah, it is. I definitely have two different vibes online. One is like big sister, I would say on my podcast. And I'm like, definitely not in character on my pod, like, ever. I'm literally just talking. But then, yeah, on TikTok, I kind of slip into like a. I wish I could be like a vlogger girl, but no one really cares about my real life like that. I don't know. So that's not true. Oh my God. Thank you.
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B
Just do it.
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C
But like, yeah, I don't. It's like fun though to make like little bits like, and make it into like a tick tock. Like I actually really like doing that. But yeah, my podcast is where I'm like crying on my pod all the time. I'm like really, like, it's really vulnerable about my real life. Yeah.
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B
When did you start it?
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C
A year ago. I was at a very different place. I think mostly it was like, oh my God, guys, I just found out that I'm gay or like queer. And I use that as an umbrella term, by the way. I'm bi. But I thought that it would be interesting to document figuring out that you like girls at like, I was 25 and then. Yeah, things have changed now.
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B
What sparked the like, look internally that you might be bi? Like, what made you realize, like, wait, I might actually like women as well as men.
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C
It's weird cause like, I knew I had so many other things to focus on that I didn't. I was like, I also like men, so I'm just going to ignore this, like, whatever, like, and the type of girl that I was interested in. I lived in Ohio and then Nashville. So like, I didn't really see a lot of. I, I like like a tomboy, kind of like lesbian girl who's like, I don't know, like they're not. I didn't see. See them as much. So when I, I met my ex and then I was like, okay, it's time for me to like address this. Like, I like her. So yeah, kind of like I DM'd her and I didn't think that we would date and then we dated and then I realized oh my God, I like romantically like her so I must be bi. Like for real. For real.
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B
Wow.
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C
Yeah.
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B
Was that your first ever girlfriend and it was like a year long relationship, right?
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C
Yeah. Damn. Yeah.
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B
And how was that?
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C
Oh my God.
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B
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B
Well, it was very, it was a very public relationship and also very public breakup. Like you guys, didn't you guys legitimately.
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C
Like break up on the podcast? Yeah, she was supposed to come on my pod that week and then we like that week I brought up a fight that we had had and I was like, I need to address this because I feel uncomfortable. And then she was like, I think we should just give up. And then I was like, oh, okay. And then she was like, but I also come on your podcast, let's just announce that we're breaking up. And yeah, that did not go well.
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B
I watched a clip from that and I was thinking in my head like, wow, the bravery that you have though, posting that.
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C
I didn't know that it was brave what I was doing. I.
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B
Well, it's just. It's just a very vulnerable thing. And I think, like, a lot of women would record something like that and be like, yeah, I'm never going to go live with this. But I. I think it also helped a lot of people, maybe in a similar situation, but also shows, like, how real you are that you chose to go live with that because not a lot of people would.
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C
Well, I thank you for saying that. But that wasn't real. Like, that isn't. I regret doing that, like, so much. Like, so much every day. Basically.
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B
You regret posting an episode. How come?
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C
I wasn't really being truthful in what I was saying, and I wasn't even. I wasn't being sensitive to a topic that is so triggering for so many queer women and queer people in general. And I wish that I had more information, and I wish that I asked more people about what I was about to do, but I kind of just trusted someone, and then I feel like it did more harm than good. The reason that I posted that is because I. We were already getting. I was already. Our relationship was already subject to a lot of speculation and people. I don't think people had it right. Like, they thought that maybe I was just experimenting with my girlfriend, which. So that was making me frustrated. And I already had a vendetta against online speculation. So I was like, what if we just say this so that people will, like, leave us alone and not think that, like, I'm breaking up with you for. I don't know.
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B
You're trying to create, like, a narrative.
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C
Yeah. And it wasn't true. So I regret doing that a lot. But I wanted to post it because I. Half of me, like, I wanted to stay with her and I wanted. I thought it was noble to, like, protect her.
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B
You could tell how emotionally invested you were in her just by being on camera. And I can't. I don't know. I don't know your ex, and I never met her personally, so I never want to, like, judge someone I've never met before. But I do think the emotion that was shown on camera and also, like, physical affection, you could tell how devastated you were. And I didn't feel that same reciprocation. But also, like, when a camera's on, it's. You can never tell when someone's really emotional. But, like, do you know when, like, a couple sits down, that's like, the Internet couple, and they announce their, like, breakup, and it's devastating to everyone. Like, we've seen those a million times, and you can. Until like, one wants it to happen and the other one doesn't want it to happen.
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C
It's so weird because now I can see that, but I didn't have. It's so weird how brainwashed you can. No, of course.
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B
But also.
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C
Any idea.
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B
It's so fresh for you in that moment. You're so emotional. Like, I get it.
- [22:55]
C
So much cognitive dissonance of, like, I look back and I'm like, oh, my God, I was so naive. Even that was what, six months ago or seven months ago or something? Like, how have I changed this much and, like, realized. Hashtag, like, Kylie Jenner. Like, this is my year of realizing things. Like, how did I change this much in this small amount of time? Like, I can see it makes me. Sorry my body. I feel, like, anxious talking about it, but I can just see so many red. And I. As time goes on, I have, like, memories flash up and I'm. They make me mad. Now just having this amount of therapy and, like, work that I've done on myself and getting to spend so much time with, like, queer women who I believe have my best interests in mind. I didn't know what I. Why what happened was not okay. I think I. I shouldn't have said that, but I feel like I wasn't protected. And I think the other person involved had, like, a decade of experience being a queer youtuber and I think she needed to, like, kind of protect her image in a more. I don't know, in a way that she didn't really care, like, what happened to me. So. But, like, it's hard to believe that about your girlfriend. You're like, yeah, people were trying. Like, everyone was telling me, like, what. Why. What happened was, like, messed up. I didn't believe them still for, like, a couple months after that, I was like, no, like, you guys don't get it. Like, and then one day you get the realization and you're like, oh, my God, now I understand what happened. And, like, you just wake up and you're like, that's crazy.
- [24:37]
B
Well, also, I think when you're so emotionally invested and you love someone, and also it was your first relationship with a woman. And for a long time, I think your emotions always protect you from what's really in front of you. And that's a very normal thing. It's like a guard you put up. But also what you were saying about how you can't believe how much you've grown in such a short amount of time, I think there's a lot of growing to do when you're on your own. Like, when you're not with someone, you're able to fully focus on yourself. Like, I think a lot of people get the opportunity to flourish by themselves and make, like, a stride forward. When you don't have someone with a.
- [25:21]
C
Kind of, like, dull the. Yeah. Real life. Like, I in that relationship, I wasn't happy, but I didn't understand that that wasn't just how everyone feels in relationships. Like, I didn't understand. I was like, this is the best that it can get because, like, I love her. Like, I love her. And then any feedback I was getting from people in my real life or, like, online, I was like, no, they just don't see us when we're, like, together alone. Like, we love each other so much. Yeah.
- [25:46]
B
You're always, like, internally defending. Yeah, yeah, for sure.
- [25:49]
C
And then you learn to, like, not tell people what's actually going on. And, you know, I have so much cognitive dissonance about that relationship still. I'm like, my phone will, like, show me a memory of us, like, going grocery shopping together and we look so happy. But then I'm. I'm like, did she know, like, the version of me? Like, did she know that this was going to end? Like, I don't know. Now I'm learning so much about how, like, just because you're excited to be in your first relationship with a woman and you feel so in love and, like, you think that a woman has your best interests in mind, like, and that they are going to protect you and you're gonna be together forever, and you think that they feel the same way. I guess. But now I know to have the same boundaries with women that I have with men.
- [26:37]
B
And also, even though experiences like that can be really shitty, you can tell how much you've learned from it being your first relationship with a woman that I. No matter if you date a man or a woman and end up with them for the rest of your life, like, you've learned so many lessons, and I feel like you'll know what characteristics to look for to avoid.
- [26:58]
C
I would encourage, like, a. Maybe a baby gay. That's what girls are or, like, people are called when they're in their, like, first relationship or, like, experimenting for the first time. Maybe, like, find someone in the same, like, level of, like, experience. Because it's hard to navigate when I felt like I was just the underdog the entire time. And I've been in relationships with men before, and, like, I've dated before. I mean, I was like, 25, 26, and you think that you're prepared, but it's like an entirely different heartbreak when it's. There was so much on the line, and for her there wasn't. Like, for me, it was huge. Like, bringing a girl back to meet my family, like, that is a huge step for me as someone who has presented as straight her entire life, and, like, everyone has perceived me as straight, so that inherently brings weight. Dating a woman for the first time, like, totally. You are opening yourself up to be perceived differently, and it is different. Being a baby gay. I didn't think it was gonna be, like, sensitive, but it was. It ended. When we ended, it felt even more heavier. Like, I don't know. I just felt like. I feel like I'm different forever because of that relationship. And when you date someone that has, like, way more relationship experience with women, it feels at least that they get away. Like, whatever. Like, this is just how it is. Like, you know what I mean? So I would really encourage people to, like, find people that are around the same level. Okay. Of queerness.
- [28:23]
B
No, I love that because, like, I'm obviously straight, but I think I love when I have people on with different backgrounds and experiences so that my listeners can. Yeah, you know, they. There's probably so many people that understand and empathize and also are still learning and experimenting and, you know, trying to figure out who they are and who they want to be with. So I. I love that you were talking about that. I think it's important, too.
- [28:48]
C
Yeah, it was. You think you know and are going to be okay, and then it happens, and you're like, oh, my God, that was weird. Yeah, that was crazy. Yeah.
- [28:57]
B
Do you talk to your ex or did you guys talk after the breakup or. That was it.
- [29:03]
C
I got. Okay, so we broke up. We kept dating after that podcast episode went up for, like, a month.
- [29:08]
B
Oh, really?
- [29:09]
C
Okay. Yeah, we were, like, quarantining together, basically. I don't know. Like, we were just, like, everyone doesn't want us to be together. Let's, like, secretly be together. And then one day, she went on a cruise. I was supposed to go on a cruise with her. And then we broke up, and, like, we posted it. So we were like. She went on a cruise with her best friend instead, and we were in the middle of a conversation, and she literally. I didn't hear from her ever again for 22 days. And I feel like I. I've told this story multiple times, so I'm sorry if this is a repeat story to anyone, but I'm genuinely asking for my.
- [29:45]
B
Own selfish reasons, because I haven't heard this story.
- [29:47]
C
I basically, I got robbed on the 22nd day and I called her and then she let me go to her house and I thought that maybe she had like, ghosted me to fix us. Like, I thought maybe she was doing like a detox, like a no contact detox.
- [30:01]
B
Okay.
- [30:02]
C
Because that is how, like, even on leading up to the day that she ghosted me, we were like everything, like, in a relationship, like, we were being physical. We were like FaceTiming every day. And then, I don't know, one day, Gianna Cruz didn't hear from her. I got robbed. I called her and then I go to. She lets me come to her house. And then I thought that we were going to like, pick up where we left off kind of. And I also had just gotten robbed while I was home and I was like, terrified. And then she basically, I know now, like, had already, I don't know, sort of moved on. Yeah. But I didn't know then. It was just very confusing.
- [30:46]
B
Well, it's also, I think in any relationship when you have spent so much of your time together and also, again, it being your first relationship with a woman for a year, it's a long time when it's. There's a certain heartbreak behind it when you know that they've moved on so quick because you feel like, okay, well, how important was I? Yeah, you've always, like, been really kind. And like, obviously with every relationship, things happen off camera that no one needs to know publicly. But I think that you've been respectful, you've been honest. But also you've shared your very vulnerable and raw experience for people that maybe have been in your situation or are in your situation.
- [31:28]
C
I think my motivation behind, like, even talking, allowing myself to talk about it, is I'm okay, and I have grown so much and I'm grateful that that ended. And I. I hope that both of us peacefully, like, live our own lives because I'm grateful to her for letting me go. And like, I felt discarded. Like, I felt like, just so confused and like, discarded and all of this stuff. But now I'm like, thank you for doing that because I wouldn't have started. I'm like, doing acting classes. I have so many more friendships. I have so many more career things going for me now. But yeah, while we were dating, I just felt. I didn't feel motivated. So I'm just happy to be out of that relationship and living for yourself. Yeah. And I do hope that people understand that if you go through, like, an unhealthy breakup or like a relationship. Like, you're. You're gonna be okay. Like scientifically, like, you eventually will be okay.
- [32:27]
B
Totally. It just takes some time.
- [32:29]
C
It takes time and for sure, it's so hard. But yeah.
- [32:32]
B
Okay. Moving on to happy subjects, I. Because I feel like you have your online Persona and then you're you. But for people that don't know you, aren't familiar with you, how would you describe yourself and who you are?
- [32:45]
C
I feel like I'm finally, like, at a place with social media where, like, I feel like I am being the most authentic version I've ever been. That's amazing. I would definitely. I've always been like a. For the girls girl. Like, I'm. I've loved women 100%, so I guess that is how I describe myself as like a girls girl. But. Yeah. I don't know.
- [33:06]
B
When someone meets you and they walk away, what do you hope that they are thinking about when they leave your presence?
- [33:14]
C
That I listen to them and, like, I care about it. I feel like I love meeting new people.
- [33:18]
B
So you're an intuitive listener.
- [33:19]
C
I try.
- [33:20]
B
I love that.
- [33:21]
C
I want to hear about other people's experiences. Yeah. I like story times. So, like, hearing anecdotes.
- [33:26]
B
Yeah.
- [33:26]
C
My favorite.
- [33:27]
B
What made you so brave to go online and like, talk about your experience with guys?
- [33:37]
C
I think I thought the world was. And it was Covid. I think I thought the world was ending. And you're like, I don't give a fuck. Yeah. And then I like, honestly, you do kind of have to get rid of your ego and, like, put yourself in a position to be perceived.
- [33:51]
B
Yeah.
- [33:52]
C
Even now I'm like, oh, my God. Like, even this interview, I'm like, oops. But whatever.
- [33:57]
B
No, no, no, no, no.
- [33:59]
C
Like, it's. It's scary, but it's like, I don't know. Other people can. Like, I've like, people can watch the same interview or the same tick tock or the same anything. My podcast episode. And some people will be like, oh, that was entertaining. And some people will be like, this girl is the stupidest girl I've ever experience in my life.
- [34:16]
B
That's the Internet, though.
- [34:17]
C
That's just life, though. Like that.
- [34:18]
B
Yeah, totally.
- [34:19]
C
Bird's eye view. Like that is everyone that you come in contact.
- [34:22]
B
Totally. I know I always say, like, on the Internet, especially, like, not everyone's gonna like you, but also in person, like, I've never been obsessed with everyone I've ever met.
- [34:31]
C
Yeah.
- [34:31]
B
Like, you just meet people sometimes you don't Vibe. And that's okay. Like, there's nothing wrong with that.
- [34:35]
C
Right. Like, other people can have different experience and I am not. It's not my. That is something I learned in therapy. It's not my job to, like, fine tune myself to every person I meet. Like, I can be perceived and not liked and be okay with that.
- [34:50]
B
Sure. What was. What was the moment that you realized social media could be your job?
- [34:56]
C
When I honestly, the total frat move thing, when I got hired, I was like, no way. And then, I don't know, I went to. I honestly, I went to dinner with Connor Wood. Do you know Fibula?
- [35:09]
B
Oh, yeah, I do know him. Yes. I met him at Unwell Miami.
- [35:11]
C
He's really funny.
- [35:13]
B
Okay.
- [35:13]
C
Yeah. And I went to dinner with him and my friends and we. He was like, you should be making this much. And I was like, oh, what? So then, like, honestly, he really helped me a lot. He was like my mentor three years ago, kind of.
- [35:25]
B
I love when people on social media are like that.
- [35:27]
C
Yeah, they help me. So nice gatekeepers. Yeah. Why, though?
- [35:31]
B
And I think back to, like, all the people that I met, and I'm like, if I would have known some of this information.
- [35:38]
C
I always say to people, like, you should charge a lot of money that way. Like, the standard is. Is charging a lot of money like, it is. We're shooting commercials for brands. Yes. They have money.
- [35:47]
B
We all help each other.
- [35:49]
C
Yeah. Industry.
- [35:50]
B
Like, I. I was talk. I was talking on Tick Tock about how I'm gonna do a whole solo episode on. On the podcast about social media growth. Because I'm like, there is room for everyone. When people try to gatekeep. I'm like, there are millions of people that are making a ton of money on social media. There's room for so many people. You just have to be motivated and consistent.
- [36:10]
C
I know you kind of have to get rid of your ego. There are so many people in my real life that I'm like, you are so funny and you could totally make a living online, but they are too cool. But, like. And honestly, I get that some people, like, they don't need it. They're like, whatever, I don't care.
- [36:23]
B
Yeah. Also I'm like, sometimes I tell people, I'm like, I love you. I know you'll be so successful on social media, but I know it would destroy their mental health.
- [36:34]
C
That's what I'm saying. It's almost like, not if you are willing to, like, I mean, look at my past year. Like, I really haven't. This is if you want to sign yourself up for the journey of a lifetime where you are, like, you have to get over, like, the please like me, Internet like thing, because you'll never.
- [36:53]
B
You'll never.
- [36:53]
C
You're never gonna win. So it's like, yep. You really. It's. It could. It destroys some people. So it depends. You have to be really mentally strong. Yeah.
- [37:01]
B
I've. I've gotten so many dms from people when I talk about growing on social media, and they're like, girl, I had one T, Tik Tok go viral. And from that one, Tik Tok, the amount of comments I was getting, I immediately was like, I'm never posting again.
- [37:14]
C
Yeah.
- [37:15]
B
Because it's true. Like, when you attract a lot of those views, you're getting complete strangers from all over the world telling whatever opinion. But if you don't have that backbone, the Internet is your. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. No matter what.
- [37:27]
C
No, I know. You have to, like, really let go of, like, and it kind of teaches you a lot about life. Like, it's like, okay, people cannot like me, but totally. I don't know. I try to be my authentic version of myself because I realized that I connect with way more girls. Yeah. When I'm not in character all the time.
- [37:41]
B
For sure. So have there. Has there ever been anything that you've posted that you've been like, oh, my God, I'm deleting this immediately.
- [37:47]
C
Or like, I shouldn't have posted that all the time. Yeah, sometimes I, like, make a video about a date that I went on, and then I'll be like, oh, my God, like, sorry. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
- [37:59]
B
I love the word fuck. I'm constantly saying it.
- [38:02]
C
Like, sometimes it's just like, I. I, Like, I shouldn't have done that. Yeah. Some people that have come after. I don't know.
- [38:09]
B
Have you ever had issues with people not wanting to date you because they know about your social media? Like, know that you'll talk about the experience, like on a dating app or. Because I've had. No, I talked about this the other day where I have friends that would match with people on dating apps, and then they, like, schedule a date and then the guy ends up canceling because they're like, wait, I saw that you talk about dates on social media. And, like, I don't want you to talk about a date.
- [38:38]
C
Yeah. Well, it's almost like I respect that more than someone who I've been. I have also, flip side, gone on dates with people who I think were oh, didn't like me. And they're only dating me because they want it. Like, I'm just thinking of one person, but, like, he had a brand, and I feel like he was only going on. We did not get along. Like, and he. I could tell that he was, like, really trying to foster that relationship with me. And I was like, you hate me. Like, you do not like me. Why do you keep asking me on dates?
- [39:03]
B
Have you gone on any dates since your breakup?
- [39:06]
C
Yes.
- [39:07]
B
Guys and girls.
- [39:08]
C
Yes.
- [39:08]
B
Period.
- [39:09]
C
Yeah, I don't know. I feel like I just can't find the connection with men again after that.
- [39:14]
B
Really.
- [39:14]
C
But also, you know, when you, like, date someone and they, like, you kind of feel traumatized from that relationship. It's almost like you're trying to find that and someone else and then feel fix it. So, like, then I was worried, like, oh, my God, My only interested in women because I want to, like, fix what happened in my last. Really, like, in a psychological level. So then I tried with men, and then I was like, no, I think I'm actually just, like, gay right now. Like, I think I'm really, like, girls only right now, today, I don't know. But yeah, I went on dates with men.
- [39:42]
B
And how are they the same?
- [39:44]
C
It's like, oh, my God, you guys have not changed. I thought that, like, as we grow up, like, the guys will change. No, no, because I haven't dated men in, like, two years now. It was like, he didn't. I went on this one date, and he didn't ask me a single question. Like, it was all about him. And I was like, are you enjoying. Like, he loved me. He literally was in love with me. When I told him I had to leave and I made up an excuse for why I had to leave, he asked for 20 more minutes. Like, he was like, 20 more minutes. And I was like, I'll charge you.
- [40:14]
B
By the doll, by the way.
- [40:15]
C
Yeah, I was this therapist. I just kept being like, no way. No way. He didn't even know. I don't even know if he knew my name. I mean, that, Like, I can't even find my Instagram. I can talk about it as much as I want, because I don't think he knows my name.
- [40:28]
B
Was. Did you match on a dating app?
- [40:29]
C
Yes, that one was a dating app. But I knew anytime I'm actually going out with someone, we know, like, a bunch of the same people. So it doesn't feel like a dating app. But yeah, that one was a dating app. Can you tell?
- [40:40]
B
Okay, I want to Know what's the most unexpected DM you've ever gotten from a video or just in general posting on social media?
- [40:49]
C
I've gotten, like, dms from, like, celebrities that I was like, what? Okay. I don't know. Like, what do you mean? Like, specifically? What do you, like?
- [40:57]
B
Just any unexpected DM that you open. You're like, what the. What celebrities are DMing you?
- [41:03]
C
I can't tell you. No. Can I tell you one? Yeah. But you have to bleep it. Okay.
- [41:12]
B
Do you know something so funny? I know someone that. Him.
- [41:16]
C
No way.
- [41:16]
B
Yes.
- [41:17]
C
Dude.
- [41:17]
B
What?
- [41:18]
C
Yes.
- [41:18]
B
She's a makeup artist that I've worked with multiple times. I would say it was about a year ago. She had just, like, left her previous relationship and was like, I'm just fucking around and having fun, and she was hooking up with him.
- [41:32]
C
Can I tell you something that will, like, make this full circle?
- [41:35]
B
Yeah, please.
- [41:36]
C
That is why me and Brooke didn't do the podcast. Because of him. Like, we were. It's so random. I know. Yeah.
- [41:43]
B
You guys are way too hot for him.
- [41:45]
C
No, we weren't fighting over him. It was just, like, different. Like, it was like the. I'll tell you, he was nice. We didn't. I never hooked up with him.
- [41:54]
B
He's old.
- [41:55]
C
No, I feel bad. He's gonna see this. He watches everything. No, it was nice and he was funny. He was nice and funny. Okay, I'm saying this for PR reasons. Like.
- [42:04]
B
Yeah, no, he was so nice. Okay, you know what? If he's. If he's nice, that's all. That's all that matters. Whatever. You know what? I don't care.
- [42:10]
C
I just can't say anything on camera. Like.
- [42:12]
B
No, I said his age aside.
- [42:15]
C
Like, we weren't, like, never to, like, be in a really. It was like, more just, like, fun. Like, we were all hanging out, and then. Yeah.
- [42:21]
B
Did he, like, take you shopping or anything?
- [42:23]
C
He gave me a gift card to go shopping. Hey, I'm like, you know what?
- [42:27]
B
Worth it.
- [42:28]
C
And he was funny, and I got to meet cool people because of him, so.
- [42:31]
B
And that was via dm.
- [42:32]
C
Yeah.
- [42:34]
B
So interesting.
- [42:34]
C
I know. So random. I don't even. Yeah, that was just, like, a fun. Like, it was honestly a positive. It was, like, fun. Like, I had just moved to LA. I was, like, 23. Like, I was like a baby movie. And, yeah, I got to, like, meet all these really cool people the second that I moved here from, like, going out with him. So random. Like, I had that. Yeah. Yeah. And that was around the same time that Me and Brooke were gonna do the podcast and I told. I told her this last night, and she was like, I never knew. That's why, like, we. It was a full circle era right now.
- [43:04]
B
I'm glad that you guys solved that.
- [43:05]
C
Yeah, we, like, made up. I like Brooke.
- [43:08]
B
Okay, so you used to do a segment, I don't know if you still do it, but when girls would message you, their boyfriends, and then you would, like, try to test them.
- [43:17]
C
Yeah.
- [43:18]
B
Was there, like, a lot of bad ones where they would break up?
- [43:22]
C
Yes. And I don't. I do think that there is, like, back to what I was saying at the beginning. Like, there is a dynamic of, like, I don't know if I trust people anymore. Like, I'm. I have trust issues now.
- [43:31]
B
No, that would ruin it for me too.
- [43:33]
C
Yeah. Like, these people, they would be in the same profile picture together.
- [43:36]
B
They would say, loyal.
- [43:38]
C
Literally, I'm a random girl. Like, by the way, Like. Like, I. That makes me mad that they were doing that.
- [43:45]
B
Like, that just shows how men are. They're only thinking with.
- [43:48]
C
And, like, what kind of actual. Like, a real girl would not. Like, they're also stupid because what kind of, like, real girl would be, like, dming a random guy with a girl in his profile picture? Like, that's not real. Clearly, that's how desperate men are. Like, that is how desperate men are.
- [43:59]
B
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C
Well, it was because I realized that I was bi and then I wanted to like do long form content because again, I do like the character bits and I wanted to talk about my real life kind of. And I'm glad I did. But yeah, it opens up a new can of worm. Like I was kind of like selling in the beginning I was like selling the idea that my relationship was awesome and once you find out that you're gay then your life is perfect and like everything's awesome. So yeah, now I'm grateful to have it. We are on Hiatus. Because I switch management. Okay. And we're like, selling it to a new studio, hopefully. Oh. Period. Manifest that.
- [47:09]
B
Yeah.
- [47:10]
C
And. But yeah, I love doing it because, like, I feel like people are like, along the journey with me. I do everything on my own.
- [47:16]
B
You edit yourself too?
- [47:17]
C
Yeah, everything, bro. I know. I'm like, happy to have, like a summer break right now.
- [47:22]
B
Yeah.
- [47:23]
C
But it's fun to have a pod.
- [47:24]
B
No. I think it's really hard for people to understand the amount of work that goes into a podcast behind the scenes, because they just obviously see the episode, which is amazing, and they listen to. But there's so much work.
- [47:35]
C
I was like, producing it, coming up with every video idea, finding my get, like, guest booking, coordinating with the guest, editing it, and then promoting it all myself.
- [47:45]
B
That's crazy.
- [47:46]
C
It was so.
- [47:47]
B
Yeah. Before we signed to Unwell, it was just me, like, constantly in people's DMs.
- [47:51]
C
I'm like, please, come on. Yeah, please.
- [47:53]
B
I'll fly for five hours, start doing.
- [47:57]
C
That, like, going to them. There are some people that I really want to interview. Ken. Ken Yurich.
- [48:02]
B
Oh, my God, I love her. She's so funny.
- [48:04]
C
Something about her, like, on Tick Tock, she. It's so. The color. It's like her skin with her hair, it. It really looks so good. She's even so aesthetic. Like, I love. I just love looking at her.
- [48:17]
B
She's gorgeous. She's so funny. She is even funnier in person. Like, when we hung out with her in Miami, I was like, dude, I was belly laughing the whole time.
- [48:26]
C
I, like, love her. I love that she's like a little cartoon character.
- [48:30]
B
She really is.
- [48:31]
C
And, like, I'm not saying that. Be like dog. I really like her a lot and I would love to have her on. Ken, please. Yeah, me. I've already asked her and she always says, oh, my God, I want to do it, I want to do it. And then it hasn't worked out yet because she's always been LA for like a day. Yeah.
- [48:44]
B
Yeah. So dream guest. Ken, anyone else that you'd want on?
- [48:47]
C
Yeah, I really like Barack Obama, but that's never gonna happen. I just. I like him.
- [48:54]
B
Sorry, hold on one second. The absolute last person I thought would come out of your mouth.
- [49:01]
C
I mean, I don't think that's realistic. I'm just saying if I could choose any, it'd be Barack Obama. I also like the 19 kids and counting. Have. Do you know them? I know it's not none. There's no through line between these people. I know.
- [49:13]
B
Okay. So actually, what's funny is when I worked in the picu, I would have a lot of FLDS families.
- [49:20]
C
I'm obsessed with flds. People don't really know.
- [49:23]
B
Yeah, no, I get. Yeah. Because in Arizona, I believe what they're saying.
- [49:27]
C
Like, I believe their things.
- [49:28]
B
No, dude, it's literally crazy. I. Because in Arizona, it's very highly Mormon populated. And so there was a lot of FLDS families that had like, had like ranches out there. And so they would literally come in with their. One of their. One of their 50 children because there was like 20 plus wives. And I literally thought it wasn't a thing. I thought it was something people made up. And then when they all walked in in that same dress with the braided hair and the poof, like they all look the same. Like that Netflix documentary.
- [50:01]
C
Yes.
- [50:01]
B
Did you watch that?
- [50:03]
C
Which one? Happy Shiny. I've watched everything.
- [50:06]
B
What's it called?
- [50:07]
C
The.
- [50:08]
B
What's the three part series called?
- [50:10]
C
Of the fl. Off the top of his head.
- [50:13]
B
Because he.
- [50:13]
C
Oh, you like it?
- [50:14]
B
I was like, you're just like, no. He served a mission. He's born. Yeah. His dad was a bishop.
- [50:18]
C
I'm obsessed with Mormons.
- [50:19]
B
Yeah.
- [50:20]
C
I'm. Yeah.
- [50:21]
B
Keep sweet, pray and obey.
- [50:22]
C
Yes.
- [50:23]
B
That's what it is.
- [50:23]
C
Oh, my God.
- [50:24]
B
I'm telling you, those were the families I took care of.
- [50:26]
C
I want to interview that. He's who I want on my podcast, dude.
- [50:30]
B
But they won't talk about it.
- [50:31]
C
No, I know. So I'm gonna. I don't want to get canceled.
- [50:33]
B
They don't.
- [50:34]
C
I don't want to, like, perpetuate their stuff. And they believe what they're saying.
- [50:36]
B
Well, they believe it. And they also don't think that some of the things that they do is wrong.
- [50:40]
C
It's so sad. The way people grow up really affects. I was in therapy, by the way. Complete detour. I had so much caffeine this morning.
- [50:47]
B
No, I love it.
- [50:47]
C
I was in therapy yesterday and my therapist said, though, you have the exact same symptoms that people that were grew up in, like a culture experience. Why I didn't grow up. I don't have any religious trauma. She was saying, like, it's interesting you have the same symptoms.
- [51:01]
B
Like, what kind of symptoms would those.
- [51:03]
C
Like, if you don't mind sharing every anytime. Like, I always am just like, is what I did good or bad? Good or bad? Am I good? Am I bad? Like, could I have helped this person more? Could I have done this for, like, this old friend? Or, like, could I have, like, I feel like, the weight of the world is, like, on my shoulders sometimes.
- [51:19]
B
You care a lot.
- [51:20]
C
No, I'm not even saying that to like, but it. I don't know what to do. Like, I'm like, I need to interview you because I need help. Like, how do we get out of this, like, cult mindset? I don't know. But yeah, I do want. I love the 19 kids because they, like, grew up and I like some of this. I don't. Are you familiar with, like, the Duggar family? Oh, sisters. Like.
- [51:38]
B
Oh, yeah.
- [51:38]
C
One sister in particular. I mean. No, not Ginger. Jill has, like, gone against her family. Oh, yeah. That's so iconic. I'm like, I think it's incredible.
- [51:46]
B
And I also think that it's amazing that she's realized as she's gotten older and had real life experience how wrong it is what she experienced.
- [51:55]
C
Yeah. And you can tell that she's still the black sheep. And I'm like, these people just don't know yet. Like, they might not even know in this lifetime that what she's saying is just the truth. Like, their family exploited them. I'm so sorry.
- [52:05]
B
Do you know what I wanna. Who? I wanna interview.
- [52:07]
C
Who?
- [52:07]
B
John from John and Kate plus eight. Really? Yeah. Dude.
- [52:10]
C
Oh, my God. Yeah. Because there's drama between Kate and.
- [52:12]
B
Dude, he literally went on TikTok the other day. So I just went on my ex wife's account and she blocked me on everything.
- [52:19]
C
Wait, but. Okay, it's. I will say it's hard for me to like, believe a man if the thing.
- [52:24]
B
Did you watch that show? Yes, I watched every episode of that show. And I'm telling you.
- [52:29]
C
Was she like.
- [52:29]
B
Here's the thing.
- [52:30]
C
I was like nine when I was watching.
- [52:31]
B
Okay, but here's the thing. That's my tell. The telltale sign when the children are choosing.
- [52:37]
C
Yeah.
- [52:38]
B
You're be with him. Especially as like, their. Their oldest or are getting. I think they're in college or I've just graduated. But when they want to be with him, just the way that she, like, he would. She, like, verbally abused him on camera. The way she spoke to him, I was like, I would be disgusted with myself if I spoke to my husband like that.
- [52:55]
C
It is so hard when you go through like a parent thing. Like when one of your parents. It's just. Yeah, no, totally.
- [53:02]
B
Yeah. So why Barack?
- [53:05]
C
Okay. The real reason I. And I love Michelle Obama, I just. I have a crush on him, but I like Michelle Obama, so I'm like, Michelle, I would love to have you as well.
- [53:15]
B
I think they're both iconic.
- [53:17]
C
Amy Poehler, obsessively. Her new podcast is so good, and I just read her books. I'm, like, obsessed with Amy Poehler right now.
- [53:24]
B
Did you watch the clip of with the Jonas Brothers? And she's like, I think I could sing.
- [53:30]
C
And she, like, harmonizes. So cute.
- [53:32]
B
I love her.
- [53:33]
C
I love her. And she really inspires me. Like, I love women that make it in comedy. I don't want to be a comedian, but, like, I like being a silly girl. And, like, I'm so impressed by her career. And she really.
- [53:43]
B
Yes.
- [53:43]
C
Inspires me. Amy, I love you. Please come on my podcast one day. Her, maybe when I have a production company.
- [53:48]
B
Tina, also obsessive, funny.
- [53:51]
C
That one movie that they made, the Baby Mama.
- [53:53]
B
Oh, my God.
- [53:54]
C
So funny. I know. And when she pees in the sink.
- [53:57]
B
And she's like, can I just spray some Pam down there?
- [53:59]
C
I love Amy and Tina. They're so funny.
- [54:02]
B
Oh, my God. Yeah. I could see you, like, on snl.
- [54:05]
C
I don't think I want to do that. I'm in acting classes right now and.
- [54:08]
B
Talk to me about that.
- [54:09]
C
You have to lose your ego so much. Like, it's so hard to do that.
- [54:12]
B
I know a friend that's in acting classes, and she was like, it is the most raw, vulnerable thing I've ever done.
- [54:18]
C
One week I'm crying about. About my dad. Like, in front of a bunch of people, you're just crying about something so vulnerable. And like, the next week, I'm an elephant, like, on the floor. It's so embarrassing. But really, that is why I'm grateful to have gone through that breakup, because I. I felt like the world was ending when we broke up. So I was like, I'm just gonna do everything I've ever wanted to secretly do.
- [54:37]
B
Yeah.
- [54:37]
C
And now that I've done acting classes, I really feel like I can do anything because of how humiliating it is. Like, you have to be okay with being humiliated. And it's, like, fun.
- [54:45]
B
What's, like, your.
- [54:47]
C
Your goal.
- [54:48]
B
What's your goal with acting classes? What's your goal with your career?
- [54:52]
C
Like, what do you want to. Actually, that's why I love Amy Poehler. I'm like, I would love to be, like, a character.
- [54:57]
B
That's why I said snl.
- [54:59]
C
I don't know about the, like, improv. I don't know, but I love improv, though. No, I mean, I just don't know if I could.
- [55:06]
B
Some of it is. But I feel like a lot of it's scripted, but I feel like, you would do so good in that setting.
- [55:10]
C
Or like, something like that, a fun little, like, sitcom.
- [55:14]
B
Like.
- [55:14]
C
Yes.
- [55:14]
B
Like, New Girl. Like, I see.
- [55:16]
C
I love, like, things like that and I think, think it is so healing to, like, get. Like, when I was a kid, I was like, a theater kid.
- [55:22]
B
Yeah.
- [55:22]
C
And I was, like, always doing things like that and making my friends do, like, little plays with me. So being creative, like, in acting and, like, wanting to get into acting has been so healing for me because I'm like, oh, my God, this is so fun. Like, I love it.
- [55:36]
B
No, I can't.
- [55:36]
C
It, like, lights me up. Like, I love doing it.
- [55:38]
B
Have you done any auditions yet?
- [55:39]
C
No, I just signed to an agent. I just signed a wme, so hopefully soon. How do you even tips?
- [55:47]
B
I don't even know anything about that world. Like, did your management reach out and you do that or.
- [55:52]
C
Well, I had to leave my management in order to do. I had to, like, do a whole switch up. That's why, like, I'm on hiatus right now, so everything is, like, shifting around. But honestly, my hairdresser, like, got me in contact. Oh, period with them, and he, like, he does one of their hair and she. I. I'm so happy. I'm so grateful to my hairdresser and, like, my new agents and everything. It's awesome.
- [56:14]
B
You know what? Hairdressers really are the people to know.
- [56:17]
C
Because high has helped me so much.
- [56:20]
B
And in la, like, it's such a small world here. Like, I'll never forget the day that I got an Instagram notification from Hillary Duff. What? That she had followed me and I literally messaged her immediately. And I said, I'm just letting you know right now, like, you and I don't ever do this because I'm like, at cool. At cool. Not with Hillary. I said, you are everything to me. Lizzie McGuire raised me. Cadet Kelly, Lizzie McGuire movie. Like, don't even get me started. Everything. And so I DM'd her and I was like, yeah, I love you and, like, admire you so much, whatever she was. And I. I literally responded, like, why are you following me? Like, for what reason? And she literally responded and was like, my hairdresser is obsessed with you and told me, like, you have to follow this moment. She's so funny. You'll love her content. And she followed me on Instagram right then and there because of her hairdresser.
- [57:14]
C
No, truly, they are like angels on this earth. Yes, he helps me, so he does, like, Lindsay and, like, Paris Hilton and all of these crazy people. And I Went to his house last night to go to the hair event. I. It was my first time going to his house. Like, we broke the fourth wall of like a hairdresser and he had a picture of me on his fridge and I was like, oh, okay. It's like mutual. Like we love each other and he truly, like, he is like, like the second hair stylist I had when I came to la. And he's been with me for years, so it's like he knows me so well and every time I'm there, it's like every three months or something and like there's a new thing going on in my life and he always is like such a grounding presence for me and being like, remember how you got through this thing? Like the brook thing. Like, you got through it and now you guys are fine. And so to go through this drama, he's been so healing for me. He's like, you're going to be fine. He's like, in a chair.
- [58:01]
B
That's amazing.
- [58:01]
C
I love him.
- [58:02]
B
Well, I really appreciate you being here. We end our segment with a little rapid fire. Are you good with that?
- [58:08]
C
Yes, obviously.
- [58:09]
B
Okay, let's do it.
- [58:10]
C
Go to Get Ready Hype song Seven Rings by or Sports Car by Tate.
- [58:16]
B
Oh, anything. Tate. You know, she performed at our little Valentine's Day thing we did with Unwell here in la and I got to like casually go hang out in her dressing room.
- [58:28]
C
What?
- [58:28]
B
I know Nicest human her songs are.
- [58:32]
C
I. She's like my new Britney Spears.
- [58:34]
B
She's so down to earth, so quiet, lovely. But she did. She was kind of like getting over a cold. So she did a full acoustic set of like five songs with just her and her guitarist. The talent of that girl even, like I know everyone talks about because she started dancing and like everyone knows her as like, like an incredibly multi talented dancer singer. But like seeing her just sit on.
- [58:58]
C
A stool and sing live can like sing like they're the talent. That would be so hard if I could sing, damn it.
- [59:05]
B
Oh, I know. I think about that all the time. I'm like, if I had another town, like, if I could play an instrument, I would be untouchable. Dream girls trip destination.
- [59:15]
C
Why am I like thinking Nashville right now? I've already. I've lived in Nashville free. I'm trying to think like, what I've never been. You've never been to Nashville. You would love it. It's like fun for like, it's like campy. Like you're on Broadway and you're like with a Bunch of cowboys. Cowboys. That is my type of guy, unfortunately. Cowboy.
- [59:30]
B
Really?
- [59:31]
C
Yes. I don't want to talk about it. Why do you think I'm gay right now?
- [59:36]
B
Like, right now?
- [59:37]
C
I'm always gay. I'm just saying, like.
- [59:38]
B
Like the big western belt. Cowboy.
- [59:40]
C
Yes. Like farmer. Once away.
- [59:43]
B
Wait, are you watching Hunting Wives?
- [59:46]
C
Yes. Yes. But I had to stop. I don't like blood and stuff like that. I don't really like that she's. The girl is, like, hooking up with like, men too. I'm like, dude, just shoes.
- [59:56]
B
Yeah.
- [59:57]
C
I really want, like a lesbian storyline right now. Okay, got it. But I didn't. I stopped watching it because it got too drama for me.
- [60:03]
B
Oh, really?
- [60:04]
C
Yeah.
- [60:05]
B
I love like, the blood gut mystery. Well, that's probably the nurse.
- [60:08]
C
Yeah, I don't like that.
- [60:09]
B
Yeah. Okay, so. I'm so sorry.
- [60:10]
C
Yeah.
- [60:13]
B
First celebrity crush.
- [60:16]
C
Nat from Naked Brothers fan, I think Billie Eilish's boyfriend right now.
- [60:21]
B
Actually, I have a. I have a good question. What's your current female and male celebrity crush?
- [60:27]
C
Oh, my God. Female. The girl from the L Word. I don't know if you know that show. She's like this really hot. Okay, I'll find someone adjacent to her. Maybe like a Billie Eilish kind of girl. Oh, love, Billy. She's like that gorgeous. Oh, my God. I can't. I'm in love with her. And then guy I don't even have on her. I can't even think, like, Farmer wants a wife vibe though. Or like Jake Gyllenhaal. No, no. Andy Samberg. I love Andy Samberg. That's who I love.
- [60:53]
B
See, I have a brain. You like funny guys.
- [60:55]
C
Oh, my God. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I like a silly guy that can be like. I like. I always joke. I like mischievous, like men that are.
- [61:02]
B
Like most random thing in your bag.
- [61:07]
C
The real answer, like, mushrooms on accident. Because I don't. I. I swear I'm not like a drug addict. They. I. I don't know.
- [61:17]
B
There's worse things than mushrooms.
- [61:19]
C
Yeah, that is. I think that might be in my bag. I don't know.
- [61:23]
B
Okay. Love that for you. Best compliment you've recently received.
- [61:29]
C
That. It's sweet that I. I was telling a story about how I like, I fall for sales pitches a lot. Like the AT&T guy, like, came to my door and like, got me to switch my Internet two days ago and I was telling this story in like a derogatory way towards myself. How I like, fall for things like that. And then, then my best friend, like, reframed it. She was like, that is actually the sweetest thing ever. Like, you should like that about yourself and that like reframed it in my mind.
- [61:54]
B
You probably made his whole week.
- [61:55]
C
Yeah. Like no one else would do that. I was like, okay, dude, whatever. He gave me a visa gift card. 200 visa. That's how I knew, like the sales pitch wasn't good. If you have to like bribe with gift cards, I'm like, you have to like pay me off to switch to at. Yeah. Like he literally paid me 200. So. Well, hopefully when a nice person.
- [62:13]
B
Yeah. No. No. Okay. Well, I really appreciate you being here. This was so fun and I think you're. You're so funny to watch, but you're a genuinely good person. Like, I can get that vibe from you.
- [62:25]
C
So I really loved being here. This is like therapy. You guys are like so nice.
- [62:29]
B
Where can people find you and watch you?
- [62:31]
C
Just Becca more on Tick Tock and Instagram and my podcast for the girls, period. We are like on hiatus. So. And go back and watch the old.
- [62:38]
B
Episodes and maybe the star of an upcoming show of sk. I know year or so cuz she's acting classes. Acting like an elephant on the ground.
- [62:47]
C
Literally.
- [62:47]
B
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