laughing through the pain | rae

Summary

Podcast Summary: CHEERS! with Avery Woods
Episode: Laughing Through the Pain | Rae
Release Date: May 5, 2025

In this heartfelt and humorous episode of CHEERS! with Avery Woods, host Avery Wood sits down with her longtime friends and fellow content creators, Ray and Vince, to explore the intricate balance between humor and personal struggles. Titled "Laughing Through the Pain," the episode delves deep into topics such as addiction, the challenges of maintaining relevance on social media, navigating toxic relationships, and the therapeutic power of laughter.

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1. Introduction and Guest Introduction (01:18 - 02:33)

Avery Woods welcomes listeners from Unwell Studio in New York City and introduces her enthusiastic guests, Ray and Vince. Avery sets the stage by highlighting Ray's sharp wit and unfiltered humor, which resonates deeply with her audience.

Avery Wood (02:19):
"Today you'll get to know the little lightning rod that is Ray and a little bit more details about some personal things in her life."

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2. The Power and Perils of Social Media (02:33 - 07:00)

Ray and Vince share their initial interactions on social media, emphasizing the instant connection and admiration that often sparks online friendships. Vince recounts how he instantly followed Ray upon seeing her content, driven by an immediate sense of obsession and admiration.

Vince (02:55):
"So I took Stevie to Black Rock, like my favorite coffee place in Arizona. And I made that sound. But as soon as I saw that, I immediately followed you... I immediately am obsessed with her."

However, the conversation takes a reflective turn as they discuss the darker side of social media—particularly the rampant sexism and the double standards women face compared to their male counterparts. They express frustration over how female content creators are often harshly criticized, while male creators receive praise for similar content.

Ray (07:21):
"No one makes me laugh as much as her. Her name is Ray. She's hilarious, sharp, totally unfiltered like myself."

Vince (07:47):
"Everything is so critical, and it just turns me off. And, like, TikTok used to be, like, such a fun thing, I feel like. And now that it's work and I have to, like, have a certain, you know, Persona, whatever."

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3. Personal Stories of Addiction and Family Struggles (13:00 - 21:00)

Vince opens up about his personal history with addiction within his family. He reveals the late discovery of a half-brother struggling with addiction and his subsequent efforts to connect with him before his untimely passing in February 2024. This revelation underscores the pervasive impact of addiction on families and personal lives.

Vince (14:22):
"He is obviously older than you. So this is where we'll get to the real bomb that I'll drop."

Ray relates by sharing her husband's experiences growing up with parents who struggled with addiction, illustrating the universal challenges faced by those with loved ones battling substance abuse.

Ray (20:10):
"So, you know, personally, in my, like, my husband has a way about him where it was. He could be extremely wonderful and nice and this and that... And then it would turn into a completely different scenario where we would be just like, butting heads so bad."

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4. Coping Mechanisms and Sobriety (21:00 - 26:03)

Both guests discuss their paths to sobriety, highlighting the choices they've made to protect their mental health and future relationships. Vince attributes his sobriety to wanting to honor his late brother and ensure a better life for himself and his future family.

Vince (21:54):
"Being a child of an addict... you have to earn that time with those kids. And I totally agree that you should do that. And that's how I'm gonna be with my children."

Ray emphasizes the importance of shielding one's children from the trauma of addiction, advocating for setting boundaries to prevent repeating familial patterns.

Ray (22:30):
"You also never want your kids to experience what you've experienced."

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5. Life in New York, Pets, and Personal Challenges (26:03 - 40:38)

Transitioning from heavy topics, the conversation lightens as Ray and Vince discuss their daily lives, including living situations, pets, and the challenges of balancing personal space with career demands. Vince humorously describes the chaos of living out of suitcases and managing his two French Bulldogs, while Ray shares anecdotes about her cats and the humorous antics of her dog's high tolerance.

Vince (27:05):
"I'm a freak. I need to be comfortable. I need to have my decor look nice. And my freaking... I am living out of suitcases."

Ray (28:54):
"We wanted a Frenchie really bad, but my son was so obsessed with cats. We went with cats."

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6. Navigating Toxic Relationships and Breakups (40:38 - 47:26)

Vince candidly discusses his tumultuous relationship history, including a prolonged engagement that ultimately ended, leading to personal growth and recognition of unhealthy patterns. He reflects on the emotional toll of staying in a toxic relationship and the importance of prioritizing one's well-being.

Vince (34:21):
"I ended up tracking my brother down. I meet him, like, a couple months after he told me about my brother, whatever. And my brother has an addiction problem... he passes away in February."

Ray (46:31):
"You were so into him because you're shy and giddy, but you need to protect your peace."

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7. Future Plans and Aspirations (47:26 - 58:07)

Looking ahead, Vince shares his aspirations to expand his personal brand beyond social media, aspiring to launch a mocktail drink and invest in real estate to secure his financial future and reduce his dependence on online platforms. Ray encourages Vince's ambitions, offering support and highlighting the importance of diversifying income streams.

Vince (57:00):
"I want to transform into something else. Use the money and then see it later. That’s my goal. Raise my family. I want kids, I want a family and I want to be able to give them a life that they deserve and that I wanted."

Ray (58:10):
"If you ever need help with investments and stuff, just text me."

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8. Lighthearted Moments and Personal Anecdotes (58:07 - 60:28)

The episode wraps up with delightful banter between Ray and Vince, sharing humorous stories about their experiences with psychedelics, hotel life, and their pets' quirky behaviors. Their playful interactions serve as a testament to their enduring friendship and ability to find joy amidst life's challenges.

Ray (59:12):
"I'm so happy for you. Okay, we'll move on because you're getting shy."

Vince (60:25):
"I really appreciate that."

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• Vince (02:55):
  "I immediately followed you... I immediately am obsessed with her."

• Ray (07:21):
  "No one makes me laugh as much as her."

• Vince (14:22):
  "He is obviously older than you. So this is where we'll get to the real bomb that I'll drop."

• Ray (22:30):
  "You also never want your kids to experience what you've experienced."

• Vince (34:21):
  "I ended up tracking my brother down... My brother has an addiction problem... he passes away in February."

• Vince (57:00):
  "I want to transform into something else. Use the money and then see it later."

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Conclusion

"Laughing Through the Pain | Rae" is a compelling episode that marries humor with profound personal narratives. Avery Woods skillfully facilitates a conversation that not only entertains but also offers deep insights into overcoming adversity. Through Ray and Vince's open discussions, listeners gain a nuanced understanding of the struggles inherent in fame, personal loss, and the quest for inner peace. This episode is a testament to the resilience of the human spirit and the healing power of laughter.

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Connect with Our Guests:

• Vince's Social Media Handles:

  • TikTok: @R_A_696969
  • Instagram: @R_A_696969
  • YouTube: Search for "Vince's Channel"

• Ray's Platforms:

  • TikTok and YouTube: Watch Ray's "Korean Corn Dog Vlog" for more of her adventures and humorous takes on life.

Stay tuned for more episodes of CHEERS! with Avery Woods, where laughter meets life's most challenging moments.

Transcript

[Avery Wood]

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[Ray]

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[Avery Wood]

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[Ray]

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[Ray]

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[Avery Wood]

We are coming to you from New.

[Ray]

York City at Unwell Studio and I am so excited for today's episode because it's with someone that I have follow for so long. No one makes me laugh as much as her. Her name is Ray. She's hilarious, sharp, totally unfiltered like myself.

[Avery Wood]

You might know her from her fit.

[Ray]

Checks for your father or barstools mocked up or in the slot. Today you'll get to know the little lightning rod that is Rey and a little bit more details about some personal things in her life and I'm so happy that she opened up with me. We had such an amazing conversation so please welcome Ray. Hi, welcome to Cheers.

[Avery Wood]

I'm your host, Avery Wood.

[Vince]

You have no makeup on.

[Ray]

Yeah.

[Vince]

Are you kidding me? That's ridiculous.

[Ray]

Okay. Did we get that? Awesome. I am. I am so excited for today's episode because we are here with one of my favorite people that I think is so funny. Ray.

[Vince]

Hey, Vince. Hi.

[Ray]

Thanks for being here.

[Vince]

Thanks for having me. I'm so excited right now.

[Ray]

Do you know, do you remember when I first found you? Like when I first followed you? Cuz I remember the exact moment and what was going on.

[Vince]

I don't remember.

[Ray]

So I'm.

[Vince]

I have a different. I think I have a different experience, but.

[Ray]

Oh, great.

[Vince]

Well, no, not a bad one.

[Ray]

I used your sound. That was like coffee shops and blocking.

[Vince]

That's right.

[Ray]

Yeah, yeah. So I took Stevie to Black Rock, like my favorite coffee place in Arizona. And we like to go to coffee shops and block and I made that sound. But as soon as I saw that, I immediately like, you know when you're scrolling on Tik Tok and there's like the. The follow button on the profile before you even click on the person's profile, I immediately followed you. I didn't look at Love that, who you were, what you were posting. I was like, oh, I immediately am obsessed with her.

[Vince]

Love that. No, I had that sent to me, actually. That video.

[Ray]

Oh, really?

[Vince]

Yeah. So I didn't see it and then I had it sent to me. But also my experience of finding you was somebody had commented that I was copying your haircut.

[Ray]

Oh, God.

[Vince]

Or something like that. Or it was something crazy. So I'm like, what? Like, what is the problem?

[Ray]

You know what's funny is there's a girl on Tick Tock. I cannot remember her, her username, but I'll have Scott put it on the screen because I feel like that looks like four followers. Yes. She is an angel of this earth and she's the cutest. Short black hair. She wears like my blue light glasses. And everyone in the comments is so me, like, stop trying to take Avery Wood's style or personality or trying to like clone her. I'm like, girl, I know, leave her alone. She's so sweet. And she like has similar tattoos. Like, just like the style. So does every other picture. And I always like, repost her videos and comment. I'm like, girl, you keep doing you. Like, I want to be you. I think she's so, so gorgeous.

[Vince]

Yeah, I've seen her. She's really cute.

[Ray]

So I. That is funny.

[Vince]

So annoying. But yeah, I remember that experience. And then I Followed you. And I was like, oh, I love her vibe.

[Ray]

I just.

[Vince]

Yeah, similar.

[Ray]

Like, similar. Funny. Honest. Just kind of like, I don't give a. Yeah.

[Vince]

Right.

[Ray]

Which I love because that's so rare nowadays.

[Vince]

Exactly.

[Ray]

But you've, like, dude, you're like, a big deal.

[Vince]

What? Like, that's crazy. No, I feel like that's crazy.

[Ray]

No, no, no.

[Vince]

I didn't feel like that.

[Ray]

Since I use that sound, you've, like, really blown up and are, like, hugely successful.

[Vince]

Well, I appreciate that. I really appreciate that. I think. I guess while I'm in it, I don't feel like that maybe. Yeah. And like.

[Ray]

Well, it keeps you humble, too.

[Vince]

Exactly.

[Ray]

Which we slice a humble pie.

[Vince]

Right.

[Ray]

Yeah.

[Vince]

So. But, yeah, I mean, I guess I. I've definitely. Let me. All right. Let me not dumb down my things. You know what I mean? I'm really, like, obviously grateful to be in the position like, that I am and my career and stuff like that. That's so cool. I guess it's just like. I don't know. I guess you just don't really realize when you're in it that it's. You've done, like, so many things and.

[Ray]

Yeah.

[Vince]

It's nice to look back and be like, oh, okay, A year ago, I was fighting for my fucking life.

[Ray]

Yeah.

[Vince]

To, you know, like, be well in that relationship and stuff. And now I'm kind of like, all right, put it into perspective, like, now. Cool. All right. I made it, like, a little bit.

[Ray]

I. It's also one of those things where to stay humble, you kind of have to realize, like, this can go away at any moment.

[Vince]

Exactly.

[Ray]

And I. It does keep me a little bit on edge.

[Vince]

Yeah.

[Ray]

In, like, a negative way, like, makes me really anxious.

[Vince]

Right.

[Ray]

But it also makes me so grateful because I'm like, I know.

[Vince]

Yeah.

[Ray]

The work it takes, like, to stay relevant in this field and that it can go away.

[Vince]

That's the thing. Staying relevant. It's like. That's something that I definitely struggle with is, like, what to say. And sometimes I get this brain funk where I'm like, I don't know what to say anymore. Like, I don't even know what to post. I don't know what you want me, you know, and because it just seems so critical. Everything is so critical, and it just turns me off. And, like, tick tock used to be, like, such a fun thing, I feel like. And now that it's work and I have to, like, have a certain, you know, Persona, whatever. And, like, I don't know, it just seems very what's the word? I don't know. Not fun anymore.

[Ray]

Yeah.

[Vince]

But, yeah, I guess it's. It just the humbling part about it also, too, with joining Barstool, I feel like.

[Ray]

Which. Congratulations.

[Vince]

Thank you so much. It was such a, like, awesome thing for me at first, and I was so excited. And then I didn't realize how much the men. It's. It's really like the men.

[Ray]

Do you know what's so funny is I always say this, and I always get, like, the same answer from everyone around me, and that is male podcasters can get away with saying whatever the they want. No hate and are praised. If we said the same thing that came out of men's mouths, we get crucified. And you want to know why? Because our audience is majority women.

[Vince]

Yeah.

[Ray]

When you have a male dominant audience and you are a male podcaster, you're applauded.

[Vince]

Yeah.

[Ray]

But female haters are the worst, and they always attack women out of their own insecurities. And it's so sad to me that they can't just be encouraging.

[Vince]

No. And it's just. Yeah, it's very discouraging like that. That's the one part about it that is very discouraging is the men, because they go for everything. I mean, the looks.

[Ray]

Yeah.

[Vince]

The. And it's constant. And it. And it's saying the exact. I've said the exact same things as the men have said or, like, similar. And like, you said, get shut down.

[Ray]

Yeah.

[Vince]

It's just not even, like, a thought in their mind to even give it a chance, you know?

[Ray]

So I was like, yeah, it's interesting, too, because when I'm referring to, like, women being the biggest haters of women, and men are supportive of men, but men don't like women in our field.

[Vince]

No.

[Ray]

They immediately hate that women are successful. They make money. They can make the same jokes. Like, we can make fun of ourselves or make fun of men because they immediately are insecure about it.

[Vince]

Right. And I have. We have to remind ourselves that these men or whoever's behind the screen, probably. Yeah. Or just like, losers in their mother's basement. Something like that.

[Ray]

Yeah.

[Vince]

Shitting on us. Meanwhile, I'm like, what am I. Like, why am I worried about this? Because, like, look at me. Look at where I am. Look at, you know, what. What I get to do. And Which I'm grateful for. But, like, I just have to. You have to put into perspective, because I just. I could get really wrapped up in it, and I'm, like, kind of getting out of it now I'm like, all right, whatever. I just don't look. That's a huge thing.

[Ray]

Yeah, I can't. I stopped like month three now almost month three.

[Vince]

You haven't looked.

[Ray]

Yeah. So three months of no looking at comments, dms, mentions, nothing tags, nothing.

[Vince]

Good for you. All good for you.

[Ray]

I'll see. Like, I do all my own editing. I. I don't have an assistant, I don't have an editor, nothing. Scott does the production on my podcast and everything else I do on my own. So I do all my own uploading everything. Okay. I'm too psycho. Like, yeah, you know, controlling me. But I have to like obviously open the app in order to upload. So like sometime I'll see like a comment drop down and usually just ends up just me blocking them because I'm like, when I block them, it just instantly block. Oh yeah, dude, again. Going to coffee shops and blocking all I do, period. But dude, it's been the most like, freeing thing because I've. I talked about this a couple times already. But like, the best. The biggest you you can give to those people is removing yourself. Because they're saying it. Cuz they want you to see it.

[Vince]

Of course.

[Ray]

They want you to read those terrible things. They want you to feel like.

[Vince]

Yeah.

[Ray]

So the biggest you I can give is just be like, well, I don't see it. Sorry.

[Vince]

I'm not even. Not even in my mind.

[Ray]

Like when people make videos about me, I'm like, I just don't even see it anymore. So like, don't try to monetize off my.

[Vince]

That. Yeah, it's like, I can't. I literally can't with that.

[Ray]

What's your background? Like, tell me about where you're from, like how you grew up, all of that.

[Vince]

Okay, so I grew up on Long Island.

[Ray]

Okay. And yeah, we love the accent here, by the way.

[Vince]

Oh, yeah, I'm trying to.

[Ray]

No, no, I'm trying to keep her. Keep her strong.

[Vince]

I know.

[Ray]

Personality.

[Vince]

I know. But sometimes it gets a lot. I feel like. I feel like it sounds like uneducated, but you.

[Ray]

Okay, no, no, no. That is, if someone says that, that's judgmental.

[Vince]

No, I say it about myself.

[Ray]

No, that's crazy. Do you know what I find refreshing though, is it's actually real and natural because I met so many people in this industry in real life and I'm like, wait, why are you talking so different?

[Vince]

Really?

[Ray]

Oh, for sure. Camera, voice.

[Vince]

Yeah, sometimes I definitely amp it up, like just like for certain videos or something. But I feel like, no, I definitely don't try to talk like a. I don't know. Like, people think I. People think I do fake it, but. Yeah. No, I don't. When I talk to my mom, though, and I get cracking with her, like.

[Ray]

Fighting wise, you really come out.

[Vince]

Oh, dear God.

[Ray]

I would pay money to see.

[Vince]

Oh, my God. Or even just, like, talking to her in general. My dad. My dad has it, too. I have this problem, though, where. How do you say ask?

[Ray]

Right, Ask.

[Vince]

So I say. I'm trying to correct it now.

[Avery Wood]

Okay.

[Vince]

I say X. Oh, it's like that. Which I don't. I have never even, like, really picked up on that. Like a X, E. Like, what is that? I don't know. My parents. My parents talk like that. But I'm trying to correct it because it's not right. No, I don't like that.

[Ray]

It's like, tomato. Tomato, who cares?

[Vince]

Is it, though.

[Ray]

We understand what you're saying.

[Vince]

You know, exactly. It's like, you understand me. So.

[Ray]

Yeah. Orange. Orange, right? Do you say orange?

[Vince]

Orange.

[Ray]

Yeah. You do.

[Vince]

Orange, right? Yeah.

[Ray]

No, I love that. I love it.

[Vince]

No, I love it.

[Ray]

Okay. So you grew up in Jersey? Did you didn't grow up, no. Nope. Okay.

[Vince]

Not that one.

[Ray]

Nope.

[Vince]

That's crazy. Don't ever disrespect me like that.

[Ray]

So, wait, where did she. Oh, Long Island.

[Vince]

Long Island.

[Ray]

No. Oh, my God.

[Vince]

No, it's fine.

[Ray]

Oh, my God.

[Vince]

It's giving Jersey, I guess, which is crazy.

[Ray]

Do you know what's so funny? Yeah, I couldn't catch me dead reading a map.

[Vince]

Right? Did you.

[Ray]

Can you tell that I had no geography?

[Vince]

I don't know geography either. I actually thought Cape Cod was in Europe at one point.

[Ray]

Oh, I. As.

[Vince]

As insane as that is, that was a long time ago.

[Ray]

I'm not gonna lie. I wouldn't have questioned you if you.

[Vince]

Said it wasn't exactly. So that's.

[Ray]

How do we get the positions that were in. I'm genuinely concerned.

[Vince]

That's why we do society. It doesn't really require that much thought.

[Ray]

Oh, all right.

[Vince]

No. So I GRE in Long island and. Born and raised there. My background. I grew up an only child.

[Ray]

Really?

[Vince]

I did, but I had a half brother, which I met when I was 22, from my dad. Yeah, That's a whole other scene.

[Ray]

Yeah.

[Vince]

I. I feel. Yeah, this is kind of, like, a lot.

[Ray]

So then who told you about the brother?

[Vince]

My father.

[Ray]

Which he said, by the way, I have another kid.

[Vince]

No, I had to ask. Ask.

[Ray]

How did you ask?

[Vince]

Esk. Because because he was in the Navy, and It was my 22nd birthday, and I was thinking about him, like, in the Navy for some reason, and we were, like, talking, and I was like, oh, do you think when you were around the world that, you know, you have kids somewhere around the world, kind of like joking? Because I know he was, like, a whore in the Navy. And he goes like his face dropped. And he was like, well. And I'm like, what? I'm like, what do you mean? Well, and he was like, well, back in, like, 85, there was this woman who, you know, claimed that it was mine and, like, beating around the bush, and I'm like, so what you mean to tell me is that I have a brother that's roaming around, mind you, 15 minutes from where I grew up.

[Ray]

You're kidding.

[Vince]

Yeah, fully.

[Ray]

And he's obviously older than you.

[Vince]

Yeah. So this. This is where we'll get to the. We'll get to the real bomb that I'll drop. Oh, yeah. Just prepare yourself.

[Ray]

Okay.

[Vince]

I'm laughing. It's not really funny. But this is how we get through. Anyways, so, yeah, he lives 15 minutes away from me. He's about 13 years older than me, so 85. Yeah. And so he tells me this. I end up tracking my brother down. I meet him, like, a couple months after. I guess he told me about my brother, whatever. And my brother has an addiction problem. Sort of like how my dad does this, you know, long, long line of addicts. I get to know my brother for three years, and then he passes away. It's. It's fine. It's fine. He passes away in February.

[Ray]

Wait, you met him?

[Vince]

Yes.

[Ray]

Okay.

[Vince]

Which we are very close. We got very close. The addiction obviously, like, kept us a little bit. Like, there was. You know, he was always kind of. You wouldn't really know, but that always puts a damper on things. So it was. Yeah, it's okay, guys. You can laugh.

[Ray]

I only giggle a bit. Please understand what it's like to have addicts in your family. If you don't laugh, you'll cry.

[Vince]

That's what I'm saying. It's like, this is how I get through. And, like, every time I drop that bomb, everybody's like, oh. The room just goes silent. I'm like, all right, like, make it weird for me. No. You know, like, come on. So, yeah, he passed away in February of 2024. And that was a whole whirlwind of things. And that also ties into a lot of. With my sobriety that I, you know, that I Do have now. I was never, like, an addict like that, but it definitely, like, kind of was like, all right, like, what's the point of all of this? You know, I'd rather just kind of raw dog life and just keep going and, you know, for him, for, you know, the sake of my dad and stuff like that, you know, that's the whole reason of why. A good reason of why I'm sober now, but, yeah, so I grew up an only child. Now, to backtrack. I grew up an only child and met him. But, yeah, my background isn't really. You know, my parents got divorced when I was 5. I kind of just was always raw dog in life, I guess, in general.

[Ray]

Did your parents get divorced because of your dad's addiction?

[Vince]

Played a huge factor. They had a, you know, tumultuous relationship prior to that. I would say they were great business partners. They opened a flower shop. Yeah, for a good 12 years.

[Ray]

Amazing.

[Vince]

Or 12 years.

[Ray]

That's a hard business to.

[Vince]

Yeah. So good for that, definitely. And, like, back in, you know, the 90s and early 2000s, you know, they were, like, booming with it. I remember it, you know, a little bit and have great memories there. And, yeah, they. They got divorced, I think, in, like, 2005 or so. But, yeah, my dad started drinking again, and that definitely put a damper on things. My mom gave him a couple months to kind of regroup. That didn't really work. And. Yeah, so I grew up with him and his addiction. Very big effect on my life, I would say. Huge part of my life. And anybody who struggles with having a parent, you know, with addiction, definitely can resonate that it does affect you in all areas. Yeah, I mean, relationships were a huge deal for me. Just not really knowing how to navigate certain areas and, you know, the chasing your father's love and then being like, okay, we're gonna put it into the relationship now and just be, like, careless and just craving that love from somebody. But, yeah, I. I grew up in a small town. Like, it was very small. I went to a rich school. I didn't really grow up with money like that, you know, my mom was a struggling single mom, you know, doing the best with what she knew at the time, and her. And I had a little bit of a crazy relationship, too. But I love her. She's very supportive. She's my number one. And, you know, she's always trying to encourage me to be the best version of myself. But other than that, you know, I. I feel like I've turned out pretty well for what I have gone through, you know, I mean, I feel like I've done it all by myself, which is, like, a cool thing to look back on. Like, I. I did this, you know, and, like, this is my baby that I get to say, like, you know, my success and.

[Ray]

Yeah.

[Vince]

Kind of where I come from and. Because I could have turned out a lot worse. I could have definitely turned out.

[Ray]

You absolutely could have.

[Vince]

A lot worse. From the things that I've been through.

[Ray]

Yeah. My. My husband's parents are both addicts, and so that's something that, you know, has been a part of my life since I met David at 18. Okay.

[Vince]

Yeah.

[Ray]

You know, so, you know, personally, in my, like, my parents have never struggled with that, but my grandparents have. And we got to a point, you know, when we had kids, that we had to go completely no contact because it was so much up and down and inconsistency and heartbreak for him. And we kind of got to a point where we were like, we can either introduce the kids to them, and then it's going to be like, ended heartbreak. Something bad's going to happen because. Yeah. Because for years, they've just proven that they can't get sober, like, you know.

[Vince]

Yeah.

[Ray]

Choose their grandkids over their addiction, which, don't get me wrong, it's a really. It's a disease. Like, it really is a disease.

[Vince]

Yes, it is.

[Ray]

And that's out of their control sometimes. But. Or we were like. Or they just don't really know life with them.

[Vince]

Yeah.

[Ray]

But it's. It's so hard for my husband. I feel so sad for him because, you know, having a father that's a drug addict and a mother that's an alcoholic. And then he became a cop. He was a sergeant for 12 years, you know, so, like, he chose a completely different path and helped his community. But I think when we had kids, that was really hard for him because he was like, he's an only child. So he was like, oh, I'm my mom's only child. And she, like, love. Really loves him more than anything and was obsessed with him. But, you know, there's just certain things that don't come above addiction sometimes.

[Vince]

Addiction. Yeah.

[Avery Wood]

Yeah.

[Ray]

And so when he had. When we had kids, he had a really hard time because he understood the love of a parent. And he's like, I just don't understand how she can't choose me because I would always choose my kids.

[Vince]

Correct.

[Ray]

And it's. It's just so hard.

[Vince]

That is. It really is. I didn't know the depths of all that. Which is it's. I can resonate completely. And it's like, you know, especially when you have kids. I think that is a huge part of why I think about things in. In the sense of like sobriety and all this stuff and like why I need to be a certain way. Because once kids do come into play, it's a whole other world. You know. And that's so valid for you not to want them around the kids because you do know that there is a guarantee that there's going to be a letdown. Which is so true.

[Ray]

Yeah.

[Vince]

Being a child of an addict. You know, it's guaranteed every single time that you're going to be let down. And it's good that you protect them from that because they have to earn that. You know, they have to earn that time with those kids. With. With those kids, your kids. And you know, that time is earned. And. And I. I totally agree that you should do that. And. And that's how I'm gonna be with my children. Like I'm gonna sh. My father probably. And. And it's sad. But at the end of the day that's how you have to be.

[Ray]

And you also never want your kids to experience what you've experienced.

[Vince]

That's. I say that till I'm blue in the face.

[Ray]

Yeah. Like you're my. I feel like my job as a mom, no matter what anyone says, I will always give my kids a better life than I had. 100 that's what it is to be a parent. 100 and as hard as that decision was to not have them. Not have them have a relationship with his parents.

[Vince]

Right.

[Ray]

I know it's what's best for them.

[Vince]

For the best.

[Ray]

You know it will be.

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[Ray]

So, going through so much darkness in your life. How are you so funny? Is that. Has that been.

[Vince]

I think that's what. Well, yeah. And isn't that what they say? Exactly.

[Ray]

Not really, but technically, no.

[Vince]

But technically I would. No, I wasn't. Was. I don't know. I really don't know. I. I kind of was always, like, goofy. Like, my mom would ask me as a kid, she'd be like, what's your favorite thing? Right. And I'd be like, to laugh. So, like, I always loved to laugh. And I don't know, I just found other outlets, you know, I had a good childhood. It's not like I had this, like, horrible childhood. People have it a lot worse, you know? Yeah, but that's funny. I think the more you go through, the more darkness, I think it's just. Just the way to cope.

[Ray]

Dude. It's so true. Like, we. We had our ups and downs in my childhood, for sure. That, like, my sister and I are still up from. But my. My sister always jokes because she's five years older than me, that she's the funniest in the family. Like, I got my humor from her.

[Vince]

Right.

[Ray]

Because all we would do is, like, shoot the. With each other when we were, like, so depressed and, like, up from trauma.

[Vince]

Right?

[Ray]

You have to.

[Vince]

You have to laugh. Yeah. If you don't laugh off your traumas, like, it. We can't take life so seriously. I can't stand that. Like, everybody's like, so serious, and I'm just like, what the are we so serious about?

[Ray]

Okay, so you obviously live in New York City. When you first started, were you in New York?

[Vince]

No, I'm back and forth. I go back and forth to Long island and New York City.

[Ray]

Oh, you have two houses. You're rich.

[Vince]

Rich. No, no, no, honey, I am not rich rich. No, no, I do not have my. I don't have the Hamptons money like that. My mom. I live at my mom's on Long island. And then I. We. She bought the one in New York, so we own the one in the apartment in New York.

[Ray]

Oh, cool. I forget. You can own apartments here.

[Vince]

Yeah, I know. Which is, like, unheard of, but I don't know, she knows the whole deal, so she's on some type of list or something and then got the apartment. I don't know. Something crazy. But. So I live out of suitcases. I don't really have, like, home base, which kind of drives me Nuts. Nuts. Because I am not that type of person. I need, like. I am a freak. Like, I need to be comfortable. I need to have, like, my decor look nice. And my freaking. No, it's actually. It really is driving me crazy. And I'm trying to be cool about it, but it drives me nuts because I can't find my. My clothes are. I'm like. Or I'll leave my. At New York and then I'll go back home. And I'm like, cool. I have nothing to wear. I look like a clown. And, you know, it's just, like, so annoying. So that's my life right now. I'm living out of suitcases. I would love eventually to kind of have home base where. Oh, and the reason why I can't move here full time is because I have the dogs. My inconvenient little Frenchies.

[Ray]

Oh, yeah. How many do you have?

[Vince]

Two.

[Ray]

Do they have snout problems?

[Vince]

My little one does. He's such a piece of. He really is. No, he's such a piece of. And it's such a good representation of, like. Because me and my ex got him together, of course.

[Ray]

Do you share custody?

[Vince]

We tried that. Didn't work out.

[Ray]

Can't afford the food.

[Vince]

That's actually hysterical because he was giving me, like, money for the food in the beginning, and then it kind of just, like, died out. And I was like, oh, yes, I got. Yes, I got the kids. I got the kids. Kids in this divorce, you, like, start backlogging till the.

[Ray]

The dog's 18. You're like, you owe me X amount.

[Vince]

Serve him with the papers.

[Ray]

But you in dog year, so it's only a couple years.

[Vince]

I think we already surpassed it. So I'm just gonna keep. I'm gonna Venmo request him.

[Ray]

Yeah, yeah, genius.

[Vince]

And be like, hey, $50 this month. No, honestly, don't want anything. No contact. I don't want anything from that person. But, yeah, I got the kids. And he's just such a pain in my ass. He's like a biter. He's such a brat that if he doesn't get his way, like, if I, like, try to move him, if he's determined to do something, he's gonna, like, be like, no, I'm doing it. Like, I'm going to do whatever you're telling me not to. So if I move him, like, he'll bite. So he'll try to bite. Perfect representation of my last relationship. And Rushi, on the other hand, is an angel. Probably should have stuck with one dog, but. But clearly you know, we just got the dog to put a band aid on the relationship. You know, the usual that you.

[Ray]

Yeah. Sounds like when an unhappy marriage has kids, to try to, you know, fix the problem.

[Vince]

That's what we do, right?

[Ray]

I. We wanted a Frenchie really bad, but my son was so obsessed with cats. We went with cats.

[Vince]

Oh. Oh, I love your cats. They're the only cats that I probably would get because I don't like cats.

[Ray]

They're. And they're such good boys. Like, they're really easy pets. But I loved Frenchies. But we were always scared about the.

[Vince]

SO problems, which is so valid. I mean, they do come with a lot of health issues.

[Ray]

They're so cute.

[Vince]

They're adorable. I want to die when I look at my dogs. Oh, my God. They're my life. But if you get them from a reputable. Am I saying that right?

[Ray]

Reputable. Reputable, yeah.

[Vince]

Is that okay? Yeah, I say that absolutely. Okay.

[Ray]

Yeah. Genius.

[Vince]

But if you get, like, from a good breeder, usually it's okay. If you don't, then you might be fucked.

[Ray]

Yeah.

[Vince]

Then you might be stuck with, like, a backyard bread inbred dog.

[Ray]

So you don't want to live here because your dog would be stuck in an apartment. You have to, like, walk down a bunch of stairs.

[Vince]

Rushi's fine. My. My older one, he's like a. He knows the city enough Mafi. I have to walk him in a stroller.

[Ray]

So.

[Vince]

This dog doesn't walk. He's a brat.

[Ray]

I call that a dog wheelchair. Like. Yeah, they're actually anything. Like, for what reason?

[Vince]

No, it's just like, what are. Like, what are you so tired about?

[Ray]

You know, like, how is your life so hard that you. You can't put on a leash?

[Vince]

I wipe their ass for them. I'm not joking.

[Ray]

No, you don't.

[Vince]

Yes. Like, I wipe your ass and your paws when you come from outside, and you can't even walk. Like, it's just a lot.

[Ray]

You realize that makes you the mother of, like, two babies, right?

[Vince]

Yeah. When I have real kids, it's a wrap.

[Ray]

Yeah. Walking your dogs in strollers, wiping their ass. You have newborns.

[Vince]

Yes. This constantly. And it never gets old. That's the thing.

[Ray]

Okay. Mommy.

[Vince]

Yeah, I'm on my. My mommy.

[Ray]

So you and your ex broke up end of last year. How. How has that been on your own?

[Vince]

Great. Wonderful. Like a weight has lifted off.

[Ray]

Thank God. How long were you with that person?

[Vince]

We were together for almost three and a half.

[Ray]

Oh, so a long.

[Vince]

But we broke up Once before that.

[Ray]

Okay.

[Vince]

And then we got back together 2023 of September. So we broke up May of 2023, got back together of September 2023, and I was engaged.

[Ray]

You were?

[Vince]

Yeah.

[Ray]

Did you ever talk about that?

[Vince]

Bomb dropped. I never addressed it on social media.

[Ray]

Wait, I did not know you were engaged.

[Vince]

Exactly. Thank God. That's the point. That was the whole point. Point.

[Ray]

How long were you engaged for?

[Vince]

July of 2022 to.

[Ray]

Whoa. That's a long engagement.

[Vince]

Yeah.

[Ray]

July of 2022 to November of 2024.

[Vince]

No, we, I gave the ring back, but when we broke up in May 2023.

[Ray]

Oh. And then you were just dating, so.

[Vince]

It was almost a year.

[Ray]

Okay.

[Vince]

And then we got back together. We didn't get re engaged.

[Avery Wood]

Okay.

[Vince]

Right.

[Ray]

And you just knew he wasn't the one for you ago.

[Vince]

Yeah, I knew from the beginning, probably.

[Ray]

Oh, really?

[Vince]

Yeah.

[Ray]

Do you think it was relationship trauma? You felt you were filling a void? Or did you.

[Vince]

I think, I think I was so young and naive and I was, you know, it was like I didn't, I didn't really. Again, careless. Like, I was careless just going into it and I didn't really think about the long term. Like, I kind of never knew how to say no. And then I would end up getting so deep involved. That's what happened. Exactly what happened. And I ended up getting engaged and almost married, so.

[Ray]

Wow.

[Vince]

But like, I knew in the back of my head, I'm like, this is not a sustainable relationship because of certain factors. And I just, I don't know, like, I just dragged it on for so long and I was in denial. But also, like, I, I knew better. It was just very strange. I don't, I don't know why it was so hard for me to. Well, I do know why. Because he, you know, he had a way about him where it was. He could be extremely wonderful and nice and this and that. And, you know, he, I mean, he had his own issues. I'm not looking to like on him.

[Ray]

Yeah.

[Vince]

You know, it's, I've surpassed that. But then it would turn into a completely different scenario where we would be just like, butting heads so bad. I don't know if that's the right word, but just so toxic that it was just insanity. It was insanity. The whole relationship was insanity. It was up and down. It was a roller coaster of emotions. It was two unhealthy people just not knowing how to get it right. And, you know, there was, I, I, I hope nothing but the best for him. But at the same time, it's just like, I don't even care. Care?

[Ray]

Yeah.

[Vince]

I really don't. Like, I don't care. It doesn't cross my mind. I'm. Thank God I'm not in that relationship, because I probably would have died. I probably would have, you know, not killed myself. Not. I'm not saying it like that. I'm saying, like, it would have gone to a point where, I mean, there was thoughts. There was thoughts like, it got so bad where I was like, what am. What am I gonna do? Like, this can't be my life, you know? So I knew. I just didn't know how to leave. Yeah, that was it.

[Ray]

Really good for you, though.

[Vince]

Yeah, I mean, definitely good for me. It was not gonna end well. I think that's what it was, too.

[Ray]

Have you been dating?

[Vince]

You know, I totally, like, chatted with people, whatever. Dating. What, like dating dating? Maybe like, hanging out with a friend.

[Ray]

You know, like a little special friend.

[Vince]

Little special friend or something like that.

[Ray]

Are you kidding me?

[Vince]

I wish I could, like, get into.

[Ray]

The depth that is Scott's dream. Man, that jawline's nuts. I'm gonna be so for real with you right now.

[Vince]

I have to put my sunglasses.

[Ray]

I want to say something honest to you, and I hope you don't take it offense.

[Vince]

I don't take it offensive. I don't take anything offensive.

[Ray]

I think you're so funny, and you're so hot.

[Vince]

Thank you.

[Ray]

But, like, the way you exude yourself on the Internet is just, like, a funny girl. Like, you're always like. Like, for me, like, 90 of the time on the Internet, I look like. I'm not gonna lie.

[Vince]

Like, that is not me. Okay. I think the complete opposite. I think you look put together all the time.

[Ray]

Oh, no, no, no, no. I. I have a Korean corn dog vlog coming later where you can see me on the streets in New York.

[Vince]

That's a crazy statement. That's a crazy statement. I have a Korean corn dog vlog coming out. Insanity full of cheese. Clip that.

[Ray]

That's what I meant.

[Vince]

So.

[Ray]

So anyways, I feel like the majority of time people meet me. I'm not trying to brag, but they will say, like, you look way better in person. Like, prettier in person. I'm like. Because I do look most of the time on the Internet. No, but, like, you are massively hot in person. Like, crazy hot. Energy. Say that one more time, but I just want to tell you, like, you pulled so hard with him.

[Vince]

Wait, that's crazy.

[Ray]

Yeah, but he Also pulled massively hard with you, period.

[Vince]

No, like, we complimented each other. Really?

[Ray]

Yeah. I love that. I can tell by your energy that you're really into him. You just don't want to admit it because you're shy.

[Vince]

I. You know what it is? Yeah. Like a little bit.

[Ray]

But I will say protect your peace.

[Vince]

Yeah, protect.

[Ray]

Protect your relationship. No one needs to know who he is relationship, because then he's going to start doing OOTDs on his tick tock and get clout. And it's the worst when they do that. You think, well, if he does Red flag. Does he have social media?

[Vince]

Yeah.

[Ray]

How many followers do you have? Don't say specifically, but like, is he like trying to get big on social media?

[Vince]

No.

[Ray]

Okay, great. No, that's all we care.

[Vince]

He's not. He's not like that.

[Ray]

Okay, great.

[Vince]

I'm scared.

[Ray]

Oh, God. Now I'm like making her question everything and I'm scared.

[Vince]

Okay.

[Ray]

I can tell by your energy and how shy and giddy you're being that you're so into him and I love that.

[Vince]

No, I. I am definitely. I am into that person.

[Ray]

I'm so happy for you. Okay, we'll move on because you're getting sh.

[Vince]

Okay, move on.

[Ray]

All right.

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[Ray]

So when were you like, oh, damn, this is my job now? Because I know what you did before. I know you didn't talk about it publicly, but, like, we've talked about it because you were in a very difficult, underpaid type career.

[Vince]

Correct.

[Ray]

That. And it's so underappreciated.

[Vince]

Correct.

[Ray]

So when were you like, oh, this joint. I can do social media now.

[Vince]

A few reasons. So when I was a teaching assistant.

[Ray]

Oh, okay, so you do talk.

[Vince]

Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, we can talk about it now.

[Ray]

Yeah, she was a teacher's assistant. Do you know how hard that is?

[Vince]

Which is crazy to some people to find out that I was a teaching.

[Ray]

Oh, it's. When you kids, you told me that in, like an Instagram message once, like a year ago, maybe. You're like. And I was like, like, you're the last person I can imagine in a classroom now.

[Vince]

What do you mean by that?

[Ray]

I mean, like. I mean, like, Ken Yur was on and she was like, no, I'm, like, banned from schools probably because the way I speak, like, really? You're just funny. Like, you're fun.

[Vince]

Well, that was an issue.

[Ray]

And like, oh.

[Vince]

Oh, yeah. Wait till I tell you.

[Ray]

Okay. Oh, God, tell me. Give it to me.

[Vince]

So, yeah, I was a teaching assistant. I loved that job, which was very unheard of for me. I, like, hated working, like, kind of.

[Ray]

Can I also ask, what age were the kids?

[Vince]

High school.

[Ray]

Oh, Jesus.

[Vince]

Which I loved. Which I love.

[Ray]

Yeah, I don't really do.

[Vince]

Oh, yeah. Well, they, you know, they kind of were like, a little standoffish at first, you know, I had to earn their trust.

[Ray]

Yeah, for sure.

[Vince]

But it was juniors and seniors, and they were really awesome, really good kids. And it got to a point where I had my social media at this point, me, and I was saying, crazy as I do, and they were finding my tick tock. One day I went into work and one of my students was like, Ms. R, is this you? Turns the phone. And I was like, mortified.

[Ray]

Yeah, mortified.

[Vince]

I'm like, oh, that's me. And I was like, no. I was like, I don't know who that is. I lied. And then I looked at my head teacher and I was like, oh, my God. So it kind of like gradually start. And that was. I started in September. They found it in October.

[Ray]

Oh. So, yeah, those high school kids are quick.

[Vince]

Oh, very quick. I mean, everybody's on social media now, so. And I knew it was bound to happen. I was like, but, like, a month in shit. So, whatever. Months go on. And then a couple of the girls, they were, like, very, like, rude about it, but, like, standoffish, like, trying to, like, get. You know, earn my trust and earn each other's trust. Whatever. And there was a video that went upstairs to my leader of the program that I was in. Whatever. Because I was in the culinary, like, program, which was, like, so cool. Whatever. Anyway, so the one video that did circulate that another teacher upstairs sent to her.

[Ray]

Snark.

[Vince]

I was like, come on. Like, what the. Like, it's all.

[Ray]

It's always jealousy. Yeah, it's always jealousy.

[Vince]

But, like, no, it was a man. And he's like, is this the culinary assistant downstairs? I'm like, dude, seriously, you blow up my spot like that? So my. My. My leader of the program comes down, and then my vice principal found out, too. It's a video of me talking about how cayenne pepper can save you from a heart attack. And then I said, and so can your mother's stinky. This is what I said. And this is the video that went around upstairs with the children that I teach. So my leader calls down, and she's like, hey, tell Rachel not to leave yet, because it was. The bell just rang, and I'm, like, about to. I'm about to leave. Oh, yeah, it's hysterical. She thought it was hysterical. That's the best part about it, is that everybody thought it was so funny. But she was also like. But we also have to realize if a parent does see this running down my cheek.

[Ray]

Right?

[Vince]

No, it was crazy good.

[Ray]

Stinky.

[Vince]

Like, who correlates the two? And why was that? The video that I had so many of the videos that we could have.

[Ray]

Chose, like, working in healthcare. Like, I'm aware of what a stinky sound, right? But I would not compare that to Kai Pepper.

[Vince]

Hello. I mean, hello.

[Ray]

Oh, my God, guys, It was. I've never laughed so hard my podcast in my entire life.

[Vince]

It was. It was a lot.

[Ray]

Oh, my God. So how was that conversation?

[Vince]

So she comes downstairs, and I'm. I'm like, myself. I'm like, okay, this is just, like, either gonna go really bad. I'm gonna get fired, or this can be, like, really good. She's gonna be like, oh, so funny. Oh, it's so funny.

[Ray]

I love stinky talk.

[Vince]

My head teacher, like, he's never seen my videos before. Oh, he's a guy made. Well, he was there. And then my leader is a woman. Woman. So she comes downstairs, she's like, I think you know what I'm about to say.

[Ray]

Oh, no.

[Vince]

I'm like, right? So I'm like, yeah, I probably do. I was like, but you tell me what you're gonna say. She's like, well, there was a video that went up, you know, circling, circulating up stairs. I'm like, okay. She tells me which one. She goes, it was about cayenne pepper. And I'm like, it couldn't have been.

[Ray]

A fit check for your father, dude.

[Vince]

I'm like, out of all the videos. So she like, you know, me during school hour. I mean, me after school hours. She's like, I'm laughing. She's like, it's so funny. She goes, but if a parent does see this, it might not look too good, and blah, blah, blah. So she makes me play it in front of my head teacher. He was like, he did not even know that I was that type of person.

[Ray]

Oh, no.

[Vince]

So he started. He dies laughing, and he was like, what the hell?

[Ray]

And then it was probably, like, valid.

[Vince]

I've smelled it before. Yeah, it was just like. It was funny. So I was like, should I delete it? She's like, maybe just like, delete that one. She's like, I'm not telling you what to do. I was like, you know, because I make money, like on here. She's like, yeah. She's like, it's. It's another form of income. Whatever. So I ended up staying at the job at the school till May. So, like, I wrote it out. And all the kids knew. I mean, there was kids from upstairs coming downstairs, like, oh, is that the teacher? Like the, you know, who's on social media and one of the freaking guidance counselors. I'm upstairs because I would do the. The. The food stands with the kids, and it would be upstairs. So the woman who was a guidance counselor comes out. She's probably a little older than me. She's like, I'm sorry to bother you. I was like, I'm like, really thrown off to see you here. Like, do you work here? She knew who I was from social media.

[Ray]

Oh, cool.

[Vince]

And I'm like, anyway. And that would happen often.

[Ray]

Yeah.

[Vince]

And I would lie to the kids. You know, who are you on tick tock? I'm like, no, no, no socials. No, not me. I was like, I can't have that here.

[Ray]

Yeah, I've totally done that before.

[Vince]

I lie. Just lying. Yeah, I'm a liar. But anyway, so that was one of the reasons why, because I knew it wasn't sustainable. And I started to make, like, a little bit more money, you know, with brand deals. And, like, I wasn't totally, like, locked in with certain things, but I kind of took a risk and was like, you know what? I'm going to quit this job also. Then my brother died.

[Ray]

Oh, I'm sorry.

[Vince]

And that was. Well, that's okay. But I was working with his mother at the time, too. Just a lot of theatrics going on, and she was just, like, kind of unbearable to work with. She wasn't very nice. So I was like, you know what? I'm done. Like, I have to leave. I have to leave this job. And I did. Took the risk, went to Italy, came back, got the job at Barstool. Now we're here.

[Ray]

Did you apply for Barstool?

[Vince]

No. No.

[Ray]

They approached you?

[Vince]

Dave did, period. Messaged me. He's like, you are funny.

[Ray]

That's all it said? Yeah.

[Vince]

Oh, because I went on it, girl. And then I went on in the Slot podcast as, like, a guest, like, randomly. And then the next day, I got a message from Dave because he had asked Mubi, I don't know if you know who that is. She's my co host on in the Slot Maddie. And he was like, how'd you think of Ray Day? And then he messaged me the next day. You are funny. We talked about numbers and my salary and messages, and that was it. And then I signed a contract, period. So good for you. Thank you.

[Ray]

I'm happy for you.

[Vince]

Thank you.

[Ray]

So what do you have in the works?

[Vince]

Well, I do have my show mocked up.

[Ray]

Yep.

[Vince]

And that's a pretty much, like, a sober advice show, but also just, like, talking and having fun. We make mocktails and way too. Yeah, I'm gonna have my first guest on. You are My best friend is coming to. Yeah, my best friend. Kitsy. Shout out. Kitsy.

[Ray]

Cute.

[Vince]

Yep. So that's, you know, in the works. We just did episode six, Wrap that up. And it's just an evolving show. And, you know, whatever, we'll. We'll see what happens.

[Ray]

We didn't really touch on your sobriety because obviously, like, you have struggle with addicts in your family, but is that a choice you made from the beginning, or is that something that you recently changed? Changed.

[Vince]

So what do you mean? Like, in the beginning of what?

[Ray]

Like, before, like, did you ever drink alcohol?

[Vince]

Oh, yeah, I fully. Oh, yes, I. What I like to say to kind of sum it up is that I was always trying to. I always was trying to stop. Like, it was always in the back of my Head. Like, this isn't really your vibe. But I also wanted to be like everybody else and kind of like, have fun. Like, I couldn't wait to get older and drink and like, I watched Jersey Shore and I was like, I can't wait to be like that. You know?

[Ray]

I thought you were repulsed when I asked you if you're from Jersey.

[Vince]

Well, I was. So, like, I definitely was.

[Ray]

Okay, Got it.

[Vince]

But the Jersey Shore crew was like my. Yeah.

[Ray]

Oh, yes. That was everything.

[Vince]

Yeah, everything and more. So I grew up wanting to be like that. And I definitely have had my times, but my mother has been sober for 23 years.

[Ray]

Oh, wow.

[Vince]

So I saw the best of both worlds. Worlds. My father being an addict and that life that he lives, and then my mother being sober and kind of just like going through. I mean, doesn't make life any hard, any easier. Yeah, sober, but like, life sucks. But life sucks better when you're sober.

[Ray]

Totally.

[Vince]

That's how I feel. But to each their own. I don't judge people who do, you know, drink, whatever. I don't care.

[Ray]

You smoke weed.

[Vince]

I don't. I will. You'll have to bring me to the hospital.

[Ray]

You're sober, Sally.

[Vince]

I'm sober Sally. I take my Xanax that I'm prescribed every now and then.

[Ray]

Well, that's a prescription medication, right?

[Vince]

Yeah, Yeah, I don't. I don't abuse them. No, I. I definitely need them. Like when I fly, I take my Xanax sometimes. I try not to, but. Yeah, I do have panic attacks sometimes.

[Ray]

There's nothing wrong with that. What do you need?

[Vince]

No, I don't give a. Yeah, I'll take my Xanax when I please.

[Ray]

You're right.

[Vince]

Exactly the. Yeah, no, but yeah, that's like literally the only thing I don't do anything else. I have thought about micro dosing shrooms though.

[Ray]

Yeah, that scares the out of me.

[Vince]

Me too.

[Ray]

I did recently at Disneyland. Oh, okay.

[Vince]

Where is this going?

[Ray]

I just want to talk about this. I've never spoken about it, but I think you're a fun person to talk to about this.

[Vince]

So I'm excited.

[Ray]

We went to Disneyland for my 30th. There was no kids. I just want to do adults for two days so we can ride the fun rides. Cuz I love my kids so much, but like, I. I don't want to ride Peter Pan anymore.

[Vince]

Happy belated, by the way.

[Ray]

Thank you. Thank you so much. Did you bring me something? You know, so anyways, we were with a group of really responsible people and One of my friends, really hot. Lot of money, a lot of connections. And she also was like, super responsible, doesn't even take weed gummies. And she's like, so and so. One of her friends who's like a very trusted person, okay, got these gummies and she wants you to try them. And they were 5mg THC, but then they were like microdose shrooms.

[Vince]

Oh.

[Ray]

And it was like a mix between them. And she was like, she said you could take a whole. A whole one and probably be fine. And I was like, I'm just gonna take a half.

[Vince]

See, that's not promising words. Yeah, probably take a half. And yeah, might be fine.

[Ray]

Scott took like three and he was soaring. Oh, yeah.

[Vince]

Where'd you go? What dimension did you enter?

[Ray]

You want to hear a funny story about Scott? This is how. This is how much it takes to get him to get high. Okay. I don't know if you've ever been, like, experienced with marijuana, but, like, yes, I have. There's gummies that are like, yay big. Like the big fatties that are like sliced. Oh, and each little slice is 10 milligrams, right? He One time called me because he thought that was just one gummy. And he did eat the entire thing, which was. Was 100 milligrams of THC. Correct. And he was high. Two days.

[Vince]

Psychiatric hospital.

[Ray]

No, I literally, I was on the phone with him and he's like, I took the whole thing. He said, do you need a chaperone? Like, I'm scared. He was gonna operate a vehicle, especially because if one thing about him is he will get the munchies and he wants food. And I'm like, do not operate a vehicle. I'll doordash you. Somebody like, order it. Cuz he's too cheap to pay the door dash be period. So eats 100 milligrams. So now marijuana's for him because nothing makes him high unless he gets a whole handful of gummies. He like, throws them all back.

[Vince]

Wait, that like, sent you with like, like, crazy tolerance.

[Ray]

Oh, yeah. Now he's like, God, yeah. So he took three of those little shroom gummies. I took half of one. And the only thing I will say is, like, I liked that. It made me like, happy and giggly.

[Vince]

This is what I hear.

[Ray]

And I know munchies.

[Vince]

Okay?

[Ray]

So apparently it's what you want to do if you want to stay skinny. Because when I. I get high on marijuana, I could eat a country.

[Vince]

Really?

[Ray]

It's crazy country. It's no like my 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 69th stomach kicks in and it's like, you still have room for more. And then the next morning I'm like, on the toilet.

[Vince]

Yeah, your brains out.

[Ray]

Please help me. Do you know how hard it's been? Scott and I are sharing a hotel room right now. It's literally the size of this table.

[Vince]

Okay.

[Ray]

Room is connected to the bed.

[Vince]

Wait, I actually know what you're talking about. These are so small.

[Ray]

And I'm like, oh, I'm supposed to have a full glam team and photo shoot in my hotel room today. I said, I'm thinking you guys are not understanding how small my room is. Cuz like they probably think I like rented a penthouse. I said, oh no, honey, I found the cheapest hotel I could find. So anyways, on the toilet in the mornings I'm like, scott, I need you to like go somewhere else. Eating well, last night was Korean.

[Vince]

Oh my God, we're back to the.

[Ray]

Korean corn dogs full of mozzarella. I'm lactose intolerant, didn't bring lactate. And then milk bar.

[Vince]

First of all, crazy of you to eat like that when you have a guest. Crazy of you to eat like that when you have a guest.

[Ray]

He works for me. It's fine. He's like filing with.

[Vince]

He's my help. He like, he has to deal with my. It literally.

[Ray]

You know what though? I deal with his. I deal with his.

[Vince]

Okay.

[Ray]

Yeah. Because he has a sticky booty too.

[Vince]

Wow, we're really calling it out.

[Ray]

Anyways, anyways, you have anything? And then milk bar was attached to the Korean corn dog.

[Avery Wood]

Please.

[Ray]

Like I'm not going to get cereal milk ice cream with rainbow sprinkles.

[Vince]

It's just kind of inconsiderate.

[Ray]

No. So anyways, anyways, I'm sorry. You don't feel bad for him. He lives a great.

[Vince]

He. He's like, he's a dog. He gets food and water.

[Ray]

He's cuz look, we're like, help me. Oh my God. Anyways, so holy. Anyways, the like little bit of shrooms I took, I will say only lasted like 30 minutes. That was kind of a bummer. But I was too scared to take more. Especially in like a public place when people are stopping you.

[Vince]

Right.

[Ray]

Like nothing would make me more paranoid than me like wigging out and someone's like, can I get a photo with you? And I'm like, you know, cross ey, Something's like genuinely concerning. Right. But everything looked like so bright color wise. Like they say this is what I.

[Vince]

Hear every sing, like from every person that I ask. They say that I'm giggly. Yeah. That's all I hear. So I'm trying to be giggly too, so maybe I'll dabble.

[Ray]

Just do it with someone you trust for the first time and, like, don't buy it off the streets, you know?

[Vince]

I kind of want to do it. Did you do it at night?

[Ray]

It was like evening time when it was the sunset. And so it was really. Yeah.

[Vince]

I feel like you have to be in a good setting and like, headspace.

[Ray]

Yeah. Also crazy of me to try it for the first time at Disneyland.

[Vince]

Wait. Yeah.

[Ray]

I should have been like, like while my kids are asleep, like, with nothing distracting me.

[Vince]

Right. Wow, that was bold.

[Ray]

I suggest that for you.

[Vince]

Okay.

[Ray]

All right.

[Vince]

Taking it at Disneyland?

[Ray]

No, no, no, no, no. At home.

[Vince]

At home, yeah.

[Ray]

Yeah. In your bedroom maybe?

[Vince]

You went to Disneyland or Disney World?

[Ray]

Disneyland. Disneyland is only a couple hours from my house, so we just drive there.

[Vince]

Wait, what do you mean couple? You don't you live in Arizona?

[Ray]

No, not anymore. I moved.

[Vince]

All right, so where did you move? Like, I'm so confused.

[Ray]

I moved back to California where my family is.

[Vince]

Okay.

[Ray]

We couldn't afford it before. We were a cop and a nurse. And then when we left our jobs, we were kind of like, why the are we here still? And then when I signed unwell. I'm obviously traveling so much for the podcast and like 98% of people live in LA.

[Vince]

Right. So it makes sense.

[Ray]

I needed. I can't be in the city of la where like, like more family suburb area. But we're close enough.

[Vince]

I didn't know, like, if you actually bought a house. Like, I knew that you were looking to move, but I didn't know.

[Ray]

Or we did a short term rental through the summer while we house shot.

[Vince]

But we're like, there. That's why I'm.

[Ray]

Yeah. In the process of hopefully closing soon. Cool. So.

[Vince]

Okay, well, now I have an excuse to go there, but I am scared of la.

[Ray]

Yeah, it's. It's a different world.

[Vince]

Yeah.

[Ray]

The culture is very different.

[Vince]

Especially what I'm saying.

[Ray]

Yeah. Okay, so dating, wrapping up. I want to know what's your, like, what's your goal in the next three to five years? Like, what do you envision for your brand, your platform?

[Vince]

I would say as of now, from what I'm thinking, just to keep growing with mocked up, obviously, and like, sort of have that evolve into something I would hope to eventually come out with, like some mocktail drink of Some sort. That would definitely be cool. Just keep grinding. I would love to get into, like, invest my money into other things and like, buy properties and stuff so I don't have to like. My goal is eventually to just like get the off social media.

[Ray]

Yeah. If you ever need help with investments and stuff, just text me.

[Vince]

Absolutely.

[Ray]

I'll hook you up. Because we've, we've helped a couple of our friends before because.

[Vince]

Yeah, it's.

[Ray]

It really is almost like a word of mouth thing.

[Vince]

Yeah.

[Ray]

It's like a secret club.

[Vince]

Yeah. But I don't want to be in that.

[Ray]

That's where it's at. And that's when people are like, oh my God. God, it's such a. It's such a quick burnout job. You'll be screwed. I'm like, you don't see what we're doing behind the scenes with the money.

[Vince]

That's what, that's what I'm saying. If the money is coming in, burn me out. Like, I don't give a. You know, But I mean, I just want to be able to get to a point where I don't have to do social media necessarily. Like as your full time kid. Yeah, that's the thing. I want to transform into something else. Use the money and then see it later. Yeah, that, that's my goal. Raise my family. I want kids, I want a family and I want to be able to give them a life that they deserve and that I wanted. And I can't wait to do that. So.

[Ray]

God, I cannot wait to watch you procreate with your friend. He is. You guys are going to make some cute babies and let me know if a wedding happens because I give really great gifts.

[Vince]

Great. I will keep that in mind.

[Ray]

Amazing.

[Vince]

I'll note that.

[Ray]

Keep me updated via text about that situation.

[Avery Wood]

Love to hear.

[Ray]

Oh, I will. Where can people find you?

[Vince]

You can find me on Tik tok or on YouTube or on Instagram.

[Ray]

What's your handle?

[Vince]

My handles are. Oh, my Instagram is kind of weird. It's R underscore A like. Is that what you're saying? Yeah, it's like why it feels so uncomfortable.

[Ray]

Put it somewhere. You're like R A 6, 96969, right? I don't know. I keep saying 6, 9, like I'm in fifth.

[Vince]

Yeah. What the.

[Ray]

It's not even a funny joke.

[Vince]

Grow up, dude.

[Ray]

I know. You're gonna see it in my Korean corn dog vlog, my order number.

[Vince]

I say that word one more time, Korean corn dog. That's gonna haunt me.

[Ray]

My order number was 69 last night. I'm sorry.

[Vince]

Honestly, how old are you? I'm 30 years old. 69.

[Ray]

No, the maturity is definitely going downhill. As I age, it's definitely going down.

[Vince]

Just gets worse and worse.

[Ray]

Oh, okay. Anyways, everyone go follow around every everything. Because she's so funny. And I don't know how you are not literally as successful as Chelsea Handler. You're so funny.

[Vince]

Oh, thank you. That's a compliment.

[Ray]

Well, it's true.

[Vince]

Thank you. I really appreciate that.

[Ray]

And we'll go get Korean corn dogs later.

[Vince]

Oh, dear.

[Ray]

All right. Bye, guys.

[Vince]

Bye, guys.

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