life after nursing | tay lautner

Summary

CHEERS! with Avery Woods

Episode: Life After Nursing | Tay Lautner
Release Date: March 3, 2025

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Introduction

In this heartfelt and insightful episode of CHEERS! with Avery Woods, host Avery Woods welcomes Tay Lautner, a registered nurse turned mental health advocate and co-host of the Squeeze podcast alongside her husband, actor Taylor Lautner. Recorded at the Unwell headquarters in Los Angeles, this conversation delves deep into Tay's transition from nursing to podcasting, her advocacy for mental health, and her personal journey navigating life alongside a public figure.

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Background and Early Life

Avery Woods opens the conversation by expressing her admiration for Tay Lautner's advocacy work:

"Tay Lautner has been such an advocate for mental health... And as you guys know, this last year I've really struggled with my own mental health."
(00:28)

Tay Lautner shares her upbringing in a suburban town near LA, highlighting a normal childhood filled with dance and academic interests:

"I danced growing up. Only child... life was very normal, normal suburban child."
(03:04)

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Journey into Nursing

Tay recounts her initial foray into dance at Cal State Long Beach, only to pivot towards nursing after realizing her passion for anatomy and physiology during high school:

"In high school, the one class I really cared about was my AP anatomy and physiology class... maybe there's something there."
(04:06)

She details the challenges of nursing school, especially balancing being a straight-A student in a demanding field:

"Being a straight A student in nursing school was insane because that was not ever me. I freaking loved it."
(05:06)

Tay emphasizes the versatility of nursing, noting the diverse pathways available within the profession:

"The versatility of nursing... you can truly try something else before."
(05:43)

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Transition from Nursing to Podcasting

The conversation shifts to Tay's decision to leave nursing due to severe mental health struggles exacerbated by the COVID-19 pandemic:

"I ended up getting COVID... I needed to leave. This is my time to do this or else I probably would still be working there right now."
(21:16)

Tay explains the genesis of her mental health advocacy:

"I started a blog called Lemons by Tay, which then morphed into a non-profit. Two years after that, it became the podcast."
(22:28)

Avery Woods highlights the importance of Tay's podcast in providing a platform for diverse mental health discussions:

"You cover so many different aspects and people on a scale that you would never believe... Everyone deals with it."
(27:34)

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Personal Life and Relationship with Taylor Lautner

Tay shares the serendipitous way she met her husband, Taylor Lautner, through a mutual friend and how their paths converged despite attending rival high schools:

"We met December of 2017. His sister's a year younger than me... then a game night brought us together."
(15:00)

They discuss their shared love for the Harry Potter series and how Taylor's past as an actor from the Twilight franchise intersects with their lives:

"We did watch Harry Potter because it's our love language. Taylor had to hide his first editions from his religious family."
(18:17)

Tay recounts their intimate proposal in the kitchen, contrasting with Taylor's elaborate public proposals:

"He proposed on our kitchen counter surrounded by roses. It was so sweet and just a moment with us."
(52:09)

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Mental Health Advocacy and Podcast Insights

Tay elaborates on the mission behind the Squeeze podcast and the Lemons Foundation, emphasizing creating a safe community for open mental health conversations:

"Our foundation is based on building a community where you can talk about this stuff that's safe to talk about."
(46:59)

She discusses the challenges of maintaining the podcast's integrity amidst enticing but misaligned guest opportunities:

"I've had to stay true to what I want this podcast to be... we're able to have famous people all the way to normal people."
(23:05)

Tay reflects on handling criticism and backlash from podcast episodes, particularly when featuring reality TV personalities:

"We've received hate comments when we had reality people on, but I've learned to take it in stride and focus on our mission."
(44:02)

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Balancing Public Life and Personal Well-being

Both Avery and Tay discuss the impact of social media on their mental health, with Tay expressing gratitude for positive interactions while acknowledging the pressures of public scrutiny:

"I've been very blessed with the people that follow me... I'm somewhere in between not being an influencer."
(40:56)

Avery shares her own struggles with social media-induced anxiety, especially following the birth of her child during the pandemic:

"When my social media took off, I started having panic attacks and thought it would be easier if I wasn't here."
(24:08)

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Fertility and Family Planning

Tay opens up about her experiences with fertility, emphasizing the importance of having a solid marital foundation before expanding their family:

"We're happy as we are, just the two of us... It's so important to have that time of just you guys."
(29:28)

They discuss the societal pressures on women regarding timelines for marriage and motherhood, advocating for personal readiness over external expectations:

"There's this timeline for women where you get married and then when are you having kids. It's important to have that time."
(33:41)

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Future Endeavors and Closing Thoughts

Looking ahead, Tay expresses excitement about growing the Squeeze podcast and expanding the Lemons Foundation:

"More podcast stuff... I'm ready to grow more and talk to more people."
(46:18)

Avery and Tay exchange warm goodbyes, celebrating their shared experiences and mutual support in their respective journeys:

"Thank you for being here. Cheers, guys."
(56:38)

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Notable Quotes

• Avery Woods: "Mental health is something that is so important to be open and honest about and speak on."
  (00:28)

• Tay Lautner: "Being a straight A student in nursing school was insane because that was not ever me. I freaking loved it."
  (05:06)

• Tay Lautner: "I had to leave because I'm not a quitter. That's just like a nursing mentality thing."
  (21:38)

• Avery Woods: "It doesn't matter how famous someone is, everyone deals with mental health."
  (27:34)

• Tay Lautner: "Having someone who is so normal despite being a celebrity makes our life much more content."
  (49:16)

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Conclusion

This episode of CHEERS! with Avery Woods offers a profound exploration of Tay Lautner's journey from nursing to mental health advocacy, underscored by her personal experiences and the dynamics of her relationship with Taylor Lautner. The conversation serves as a testament to resilience, the importance of mental health awareness, and finding balance between public personas and personal well-being.

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Note: For full authenticity and context, listeners are encouraged to tune into the original episode.

Transcript

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[Avery Woods]

You pay off devices early in order to support our show, we need the help of some great advertisers and we want to make sure that those advertisers are ones that you'll actually want to hear about. But we need to learn a little more about you to make that possible. So go to podsurvey.com cheers and take a quick anonymous survey that will help us get to know you better. That way we can bring on advertisers you won't want to skip. Once you've completed the quick survey, you can enter for a chance to win a hundred dollar Amazon gift card. Terms and conditions apply. Again, that's podsurvey.com c h r s thanks for your help. Hi guys. Welcome back to Cheers. I'm your host Avery woods and today I am bringing you such an amazing conversation with Tay Lautner. Tay Lautner has been such an advocate for mental health. She is half of the Squeeze podcast with her husband, the actor Taylor Lautner. And I just love what she brings to social media. I love the people that they interview on on the Squeeze. I think mental health is something that is so important to be open and honest about and speak on. And as you guys know, this last year I've really struggled with my own mental health. So it was really amazing to have this conversation with her and get to know her a little bit better. We have some mutual friends. She is also a registered nurse that worked during the pandemic and so it was so fun to learn about her, her background, bond on nursing, talk about their plans for a future family and what she has to bring to the Squeeze podcast in the future. So I hope you guys enjoy. We recorded this conversation a couple weeks ago back in LA at the Unwell headquarters and I hope you guys love it as much as I do. Hi, welcome to Cheers. I'm your host Avery Woods. I've been dying to get to know you and I thought we would do it on the podcast.

[Tay Lautner]

Love it.

[Avery Woods]

So thank you for.

[Tay Lautner]

Oh my gosh, I'm so excited.

[Avery Woods]

Tay Lautner is here with us and. And we have a good mutual friend, which is Jaclyn Hill, and she has spoken so highly about you. So I've been so looking forward to meet you in real life.

[Tay Lautner]

Oh, my gosh, same. Because she loves you.

[Avery Woods]

Yeah, well, we've DMed back and forth multiple times. I know you have a background in nursing, which I love and is also so rare for this industry. We have a completely different perspective on life.

[Guest]

Yeah.

[Avery Woods]

And it's very rare for someone that came from the medical field to do what we do. And so I think it'll be fun to kind of connect and have that in common. So I kind of want to go all the way back to your life growing up. Like, where are you from?

[Tay Lautner]

Yeah, I'm from like a town that's just like 45 minutes out of LA suburb and grew up very. Just normal. Yeah, I danced growing up. Only child. Fun fact.

[Avery Woods]

Really.

[Guest]

Yeah.

[Tay Lautner]

But yeah, life was very. Just normal, normal suburban child.

[Avery Woods]

Did you always know you wanted to be a nurse?

[Tay Lautner]

You know, it's a really good question and I feel like I subconsciously did, but I didn't like fully process it because I loved like, never really like, tried in school just because I was like, I want to go dance and I don't really care. I just did what I had to do. But in school, like in high school, the one class I really cared about was my ap, like anatomy and physiology class. And I was like the teacher's pet. I didn't have to take any tests because I could take them two weeks before. Like, I just like loved learning about the body. And I was like, oh, like, maybe there's something there. And then I originally went to college for dance because I'm the first person in my family to go to college.

[Avery Woods]

Amazing.

[Tay Lautner]

And so my parents were like, well, I don't know, what do you want to do? And I was like, I don't know, I guess I'll like go dance. So I ended up getting into Cal State Long beach, their dance program, and I went there for like a semester and I had no free time. I was dancing 40 hours a week. And I was just like, I like, this isn't it.

[Guest]

I don't know what to do.

[Tay Lautner]

So I ended up going back home and I went to community college. That's by my parents house. And I was like, okay, I think I'm gonna do nursing. And when I Was a senior in high school. I had volunteered in the labor and delivery unit.

[Avery Woods]

Oh.

[Tay Lautner]

Randomly. I don't even really know why I did, but I had done that and like just had like worked in the hospital. And I was like, maybe I'll do this. And it honestly just kind of like fell into my lap. But it's the thing that I've like the one thing I've ever studied that I love the most. Being a straight A student in nursing school was insane because that was not ever me.

[Avery Woods]

No. Well, also, people don't understand the grading scale. A 93% and higher is an A. So if you get a 91 on a test, that's great. That's a mid level B. So getting really good grades in nursing school is something to be so proud of because there's not a lot of room for error.

[Guest]

Yeah.

[Tay Lautner]

I freaking loved it. It was so fun.

[Avery Woods]

And I also think nursing is one of those careers that if you not saying go to nursing school, if you don't know what you want to do with your life, but there's, it's such a broad career and there's so many different areas to work in.

[Guest]

Yeah.

[Avery Woods]

That I feel like you can work in the hospital and do crazy ICU or er, but you can also do outpatient. Like there's so many different outlets.

[Guest]

Yeah.

[Tay Lautner]

That's what I thought was cool. Was like in my nursing class, I think there was maybe like 40 of us total. It was honestly like half and half like, you know, young girls my age. And the other half was like people on to like their second career, like wanting to do something else. So it was really cool. Like the versatility of like, you can go into nursing, like truly whenever, like if you want to try something else before, like, you can go.

[Avery Woods]

I graduated with people that were in their 50s.

[Tay Lautner]

Wow.

[Avery Woods]

And I remember it was like I was a lot of moms that were stay at home moms.

[Guest]

Yeah.

[Avery Woods]

And they, their kids left the house and they were kind of like, this is something I always wanted to do, but I put it on the back burner to raise my kids, which I just thought was so admirable because they're in class with these like 19, 20, 21 year old people and they were so passionate about it and they did it. It's literally never too late.

[Tay Lautner]

You know, so many of my friends in nursing school, I had my, I went to nursing school with my best friend that I had like grown up with. Ironically. We both, we both went to school for dance and then ended up both coming home at the same time, and both getting into the same nursing program. So we did it together. And then we were just like friends.

[Guest]

With a bunch of moms.

[Avery Woods]

I went to community college too, my first two years. I ended up getting a scholarship. And my parents were both school teachers. My dad taught high school math, my mom taught elementary school. So we had a great life and childhood. It's just like they didn't have the ability to give a lot of money for college, which is they did everything that they could and did the best for us. But it was one of those things that I knew I didn't want to have to take out a lot of student loans, which actually just paid off my student loans, which was insane to me because it was only $55,000. And I like, see some of my friends or even family friends that are sending their kids to college and it's like 100 grand a year Now I'm thinking in my head, it's probably best I went to community college.

[Tay Lautner]

That's my, my favorite. I did my nursing program was at my community college. So I have associates. Yeah. And it like, in the world of like nursing, obviously there's some hospitals that only like hire if you have a bachelor's. But like, it was really cool for me because I almost like, during my clinicals, I got to test out all the hospitals in the area and see where I wanted to work. So it was cool. But I ended up saving so much money because that was the same. That was my biggest thing. When I was at Long Beach, a dance major, I was like, I'm gonna have to pay off so much money and I'm gonna have a degree in dance. And this is not gonna go over well for me.

[Avery Woods]

It's also the comparison of, I think my. When I was working full time in the ICU, my paycheck every two weeks was about $1,800. So I was thinking in went to a four year school, I would have. Well, I actually, we did the math. My $55,000 of student loans, if I would have paid the minimum, which was $700 a month, I would have been paying off student loans till I died, which was crazy to see. So I felt so lucky to be able to do that. But I went to my first two years of community college because it was on a scholarship. So I went two years for free. And then I went to a smaller private nursing school and it was only a 20 month program for an associate's degree. And I remember so many people were like, you're never going to be able to get a job, don't get an associate's degree, but they had the number one NCLEX passing rate out of all the schools in the state. So I think that's. That's so important to consider, too. It doesn't matter what school you go to, what the name is, or how prestigious it is. It matters about the education, for sure. And then when I graduated, I got my job in the picu, but I had to be enrolled in my bachelor's program in order to be hired.

[Guest]

Yeah.

[Avery Woods]

So I worked full time in the picu, and then I did my online bsn. It was like a year thing. It was kind of like a rollover extension.

[Guest]

Yeah.

[Avery Woods]

Because like you were saying, a lot of hospitals weren't hiring.

[Guest]

Yeah.

[Avery Woods]

For associates.

[Guest]

Yeah.

[Avery Woods]

So when you graduated, did you work as a nurse?

[Tay Lautner]

Yeah, yeah, I graduated December or November, whatever, at the end of 2019.

[Avery Woods]

Okay.

[Tay Lautner]

And same thing I was taking. I was doing my online. I technically only have one more class to take for my bachelor's, so I'm kind of like, maybe I will.

[Avery Woods]

Yeah. Just. Just to frame it, you know?

[Tay Lautner]

I know, I know. You know, I know I have license up, so maybe I'll do that. But, yeah, I. I graduated in 19, got my license, and then I started working. I didn't want to go into the hospital at first because I was like, it's just. It's not flexible. Obviously, my husband's career is one that is. Needs flexibility. And so I was like, I want to be able to have, like, weekends, holidays off. I went into more outpatient, you know, cosmetic surgeries. I was doing one that was, like, knee, hip, and nose surgeries. I love. Or.

[Avery Woods]

Yeah. Oh, it's so cool stuff.

[Tay Lautner]

I love that. So that's what I was originally doing and then passed my NCLEX in February. Worked like, a tiny bit, and then covet happened. So then all of that closed, and then I kind of, like, sat around for a couple months, and I don't sit well. So I was like, babe, I'm sorry. I have to, like, apply to somewhere. I need to, like, work and get out. I. I told myself I was only going to apply to this one hospital that I loved, was a trauma center and was just, like, the best nursing that I saw throughout my clinicals. And I was like, if I get into their new grad program, I'll go, but if not, then I'll, like, wait it out and end up getting it.

[Avery Woods]

Amazing.

[Guest]

Yeah.

[Avery Woods]

So how long were you doing that for?

[Tay Lautner]

I worked. I worked for a year.

[Avery Woods]

So I worked.

[Tay Lautner]

Yeah, I got hired. I got hired in like August of 2020. So I missed the first like scare of COVID But I so graciously got to work. The flu season of COVID that was.

[Avery Woods]

Yeah. Honestly, even, even right now, like, my best friend's still an adult ICU nurse. She's been a charger on the same floor for eight years and she was like, the flu's the worst I've ever seen. She was saying that she's intubating 35 year olds because they vape, which I thought was crazy. Just imagine getting the flu and then, yeah, being on a ventilator, which I thought was insane. So flu season is not fun.

[Guest]

Yeah.

[Avery Woods]

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[Avery Woods]

So obviously on a much smaller scale, when my social media picked up, that was when I started to kind of contemplate stepping away from bedside because it got a little tricky with people trying to show up and finding out what hospital I worked at or, you know, obviously working in pediatrics, I worked on a locked and secured units. You'd have a passcode, people would call and ask for my schedules or, like, you know, patients, parents would recognize me. So I'm sure on that tiny skill, you probably experienced something way more massive. Was that something that you kind of ran into issues with having?

[Tay Lautner]

It honestly wasn't bad from an outside perspective, I think. Definitely, like, co workers. I definitely got a little interesting at points. I mean, I just wouldn't never, like, bring it up, but it's kind of hard when you're, like, trying to, like, of course, talk with people and just about your life.

[Avery Woods]

Yeah. And stuff that you're excited about and your husband that you love. Yeah.

[Guest]

Yeah.

[Tay Lautner]

But at that time, I wasn't, like, I was kind of doing. I wasn't doing social media. I was, like, getting, like, a little brand deal here and there just because I had followers, because people that followed my husband followed me. But I wasn't, like, doing social media. And I never really actually like, committed to it or, like, thought it could really be, like, a career until I left.

[Avery Woods]

Yeah.

[Tay Lautner]

Which I'm very thankful for because I don't know how I would have been able to, like, juggle all that.

[Avery Woods]

It's too much. And also, nursing shifts are so long. I tell people, I'm like. Because people like to have outside opinions about me traveling for work or whatnot. And I'm like, you don't understand that. When I worked three shifts a week in the icu, I saw my kids so much less. But it was praised because of the job that was done, you know?

[Guest]

Yeah.

[Tay Lautner]

So I know so many people I feel like are. Will say, ask me what I've, like, done, and I'm like, oh, I'm a nurse. They're like, oh, so you have a real job?

[Avery Woods]

Oh, yeah.

[Tay Lautner]

You're doing a real job. I'm like, but this is also a real job.

[Avery Woods]

So obviously your husband is Taylor Lautner. I don't know how you met. Can you tell me how you guys met?

[Tay Lautner]

It's really random how, like, parallel our lives were, but before us meeting, it, like, never crossed. So he ironically, is. So he's from Michigan, and he moved out here when he was 12 for acting. And when his family moved out, they moved to the same city that I'm from. And, like, to this day, our parents live 15 minutes apart.

[Avery Woods]

Oh, my gosh. Fine.

[Tay Lautner]

So we went to, like, rival high schools, didn't know each other. He's five years older than me. Also, he didn't finish high school. He got his ged.

[Avery Woods]

He always, like, I had to throw that in because I got one more class, my bachelor's. But he did not finish high school. He did not?

[Tay Lautner]

No. He's always like, I did. I did finish high school. He did. You did. Hun. Sorry. But he's older than me, so we never, like, cross paths.

[Avery Woods]

Yeah.

[Tay Lautner]

But his sister's a year younger than me. And I knew who she was, like, small suburb, you know, who everyone is. But we weren't friends. She ended up going to school in Nashville with one of my best friends. They played volleyball together. They knew each other. And I went to go visit my friend and met her. And then a couple months later, they came home. My girlfriend threw a girls night, and I got to really meet his sister then. And after that, I didn't know this, but she had called Taylor and was like, hey, you need to throw a game night at your house. I just met this girl. I think you'd really like her. And Taylor, he says that he was like, lol. Like, my baby sister is not setting me up with someone. Like, whatever. Yeah. I was not aware of any form of, like, setup or anything. And, yeah, that's initially how we met. He threw a game night, and I was one of McKenna's friends that came.

[Avery Woods]

I love that. Well, I feel like it's relationships. A lot of relationships I've seen really thrive when you meet through a mutual friend or family. Because obviously no one's gonna know him better than his own sister. So how long ago was that?

[Tay Lautner]

That was. We Met December of 2017.

[Avery Woods]

Did you know a lot about him or just kind of knew of him.

[Tay Lautner]

I mean, obviously I knew of him. I was like, such a big Twilight fan.

[Avery Woods]

Wait, really?

[Guest]

Oh, yeah.

[Avery Woods]

Were you Team Edward?

[Tay Lautner]

Yeah, I was Team Edward. Yeah.

[Avery Woods]

See, and I was a fan. Cause I read the books.

[Tay Lautner]

Same.

[Avery Woods]

And my mom was always. We weren't allowed. We had a very strict household. No video games, not a lot of tv. We had books.

[Guest]

Yeah.

[Avery Woods]

And so that was the first book I remember reading and, like, really disconnecting and being obsessed with it. And I was, like, so infatuated. And also we lived in Arizona at the time, and the author of the books lived there. And so when the book started out in Phoenix, I was like, wait, this is so cool.

[Guest]

Yeah.

[Avery Woods]

Just wasn't in the sparkling skin, you know, that's what really got me. I was like, I'm not Edward.

[Guest]

Yeah.

[Tay Lautner]

I don't. I always say I wasn't into abs yet. I was too young for abs. That's what I tell Taylor.

[Avery Woods]

I'm so dead. Oh, my God. What's that meme going around right now? And it's like, where you been Loke?

[Tay Lautner]

Yeah, there's always when that started, we were like, what is going on? And Taylor was like forgot that that was a line of his and it like we kept getting tagged in it and we were like, what? Like what is going on actually? And then someone was like, you say that in the movie. And he was like, I do.

[Avery Woods]

Well, I also think times change, right? Like you watch a movie from the 80s or 90s when it was really good graphics and you look back now you're like, that's so terrible. So in the moment it was not cheesy. People were girls eaten that up. I know, but now it's of course a little chi.

[Tay Lautner]

Yeah, we did, we did actually just watch it because we've been in like a, a franchise watching thing. So we started with Harry Potter and then it was like Christmas time. So we were like, let's just watch the franchise back.

[Avery Woods]

I saw that you guys were watching Harry Potter and I have to tell you that that's like my husband and I's love language. We're obsessed with Harry Potter and my husband grew up with a pastor for a father and so magic was a sin like his. He wasn't allowed to be involved in any of that. And his grandfather boug him the first edition of every book, like the whole series. And his pastor of a father made him burn it in the fireplace. So when he like moved out, he was able to read the books and like really watch the movies. So every Christmas we'll like re watch them with the fireplace on. It's just the best.

[Tay Lautner]

Oh my gosh, that's so sweet.

[Avery Woods]

I cannot wait to show my kids Harry Potter. Yeah, I even kind of want to read. Like my mom would read us the books and the different voices because she was a teacher, so she was all into it.

[Tay Lautner]

I love that.

[Avery Woods]

But yeah, I, there was one TikTok I saw that Taylor had made with what was that trend where it was.

[Tay Lautner]

Like, will you like click it?

[Avery Woods]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he's like, oh, she should have gone for I I Jacob.

[Tay Lautner]

I should have posted that because I, I, I'm the one that tells him all of the trends.

[Avery Woods]

I get it.

[Tay Lautner]

He will gladly own up to that, that he is married to a Gen Z wife and she that I help him with those things. But I was like, babe, there's this trend going around. And he was like, I was like, you need to do it. And then I came downstairs and he like had the TV on. It was like clicking it. I was like, oh great. And it ended up just.

[Avery Woods]

Oh, I think that was like one of the, like, number one most popular ones of that trend. Yeah, it was insane.

[Tay Lautner]

It's been the response to that was insane. And so we love doing like, funny things like that.

[Avery Woods]

If you can't make fun of yourself and like, things that you've been a part of. Yeah, what's the point? Yeah, you know, So I want to talk about the Squeeze, your podcast, which is very mental health based, and I love that so much. How did that come about with you guys?

[Tay Lautner]

Yeah, I mean, it honestly stemmed from me leaving the hospital because, I mean, a lot of my life I've dealt with mental health around me, but not really myself. I've had a lot of family members struggle with drug addiction. I lost a good friend of mine to suicide. He suffered from bipolar. So I've just like, been around a lot of, like, mental health struggles and never, like, personally dealt with it until working through Covid. I was diagnosed with severe depression, anxiety and ptsd. And I ended up leaving the hospital because I'd never. I'm very thankful I ended up getting Covid finally. I never got it while I was working, but I ended up getting it visiting Taylor on set, which is hysterical that I got it there of all places. But I was out of work for like two months. Like, fully had to go on disability, couldn't, like, do much. And I was like, okay, this is like a sign. I need to, like, this is my. My time to like, leave. Like, I need to do this or else I probably would still be working there right now because I'm not a quitter. And I think that's just like a nursing mentality thing. Oh, if you leave, you're not like it.

[Guest]

Yeah.

[Avery Woods]

Yeah. So not. I had that tough enough.

[Guest]

Yes.

[Tay Lautner]

I had that toxic energy in my mind, but I left and I wanted to. I was obviously struggling with my mental health. So many of my healthcare friends were, but also everyone was. And so I started a blog called Lemons by Tay, which then like morphed into a non profit. And then fast forward two years after that became the podcast. I hadn't ever listened to podcasts and I just kind of woke up one day. I always say I like work the most in my sleep. I just like dream of things. I wake up and I'm like, oh, I'm gonna do this. And that's what we're gonna do. That's kind of how the blog and the non profit came to be. And so I woke up one day and I was like, babe, I Think I'm gonna, like, start a mental health podcast. And like, this is. This is what I want to do. He's like, okay. And I was like, no, but I think you're gonna do it with me.

[Avery Woods]

And he was volunteering you.

[Guest]

Yeah.

[Tay Lautner]

And he was like, wait, what? I was like, no, I think. I think you're gonna like it. And so it originally was just, like, gonna be me and, like, sometimes him. His slogan was gonna be full time husband, part time co host.

[Avery Woods]

Okay.

[Tay Lautner]

And then we filmed our first two episodes, which was me interviewing him and him interviewing me.

[Avery Woods]

Yeah.

[Tay Lautner]

And after that, he was like, okay, I think I might want to be your full time co host. And you. So, yeah, we just started our third season, which is crazy. We've been doing it to over two years now, and it's truly been, like the most rewarding thing I've ever done.

[Avery Woods]

I. I just love that you. I feel like every time you have a guest, it's someone that I would never expect. And I love that because it's obviously people you know and recognize, but when they discuss mental health or things that they've been through, it's so refreshing because I do feel like, although it's becoming more common to open up about that stuff, you just. When you watch someone or see them and idolize them, you don't realize what's actually going on in their mind.

[Tay Lautner]

Yeah.

[Avery Woods]

And I. I didn't experience issues with mental health until my social media career took off.

[Guest]

Yeah.

[Avery Woods]

I didn't experience it in nursing, you know, working during COVID I feel like, because I had so much time under my belt as a nurse. It was just what I was still doing every day, but just a little bit more intense.

[Guest]

Yeah.

[Avery Woods]

And then I just so happened to give birth to my youngest baby in the middle of the first surge of the pandemic. And then I had my four month maternity leave, so I was kind of like, okay, bye. I'm out of here for a bit. Good luck, guys.

[Guest]

Yeah.

[Avery Woods]

But then I did, like, integrate back in, but I was able to go back part time, only two days a week. But when my social media took off, I have a lot of friends that are large social media creators and have experience hate. Like Jacqueline. Right. Like, she's such a great source for me to talk to because she's been through everything that I've ever experienced now. But I remember people talking about that or opening up about their struggles because of social media, and I was kind of like, okay, yeah, like, okay, it's a hate comment because I was I had really thick skin.

[Guest]

Yeah.

[Avery Woods]

But then when, you know, you go from a smaller kind of creator to now this, like, big public figure, I was like, oh, yeah, these words sting. And that was when, you know, I. That was the first time in my life that I really thought to myself, it would be easier if I wasn't here. And that was so scary to me because you take a step back and you're like, wow, I would choose that over my family. And that's when I was like, okay, I need help. So I was putting. Put in. Put on a rescue anxiety med because I was having really bad panic attacks and then started therapy. Thank God for therapy.

[Guest]

Yeah.

[Avery Woods]

But I just. I love what you guys do, and you cover so many different aspects and people on a scale that you would never believe. Right. Like, people that are super, super famous to people that might be well known in the public eye. You. You interviewed someone? I forget his name, but he had attempted suicide with a, like, gunshot wound to the head. That clip you guys posted of the Axon cams. Because my husband was a police officer for 12 years, and so he would get calls like that all the time. That was amazing to see.

[Guest]

Yeah.

[Avery Woods]

But also so important to talk about.

[Tay Lautner]

Yeah, it's. I feel like it's really cool, and it's something that I've had to be very mindful of, like, why I started the podcast and, like, continuing on, like, my intention for it, because it's so easy. Like, we've been offered, like, insane guests to come on, but they. They just don't, like, align sometimes. So it's really easy to, like, want to have that guest on or, like, want to do the ad or do whatever. But I've just had to, like, stay true to what I want this podcast to be. And it's been really cool to see it pay off in the way that it's helped a lot of people. And I love that, you know, we're able to have famous people all the way to people that, like, aren't known. Like, we did this one episode, when I have a couple more that I'm, like, planning out, I'm really excited about. But this girl, she was, I think, like, 25. She was in her 20s. She was diagnosed with stage four colon cancer, and she had made a bucket list. And her bucket list she posted on Tick Tock, and she was like, I want to be on, like, a cool podcast. And so we were tagged in it a bunch, ended up flying her out here and doing a podcast with her. She ended up passing away last year. But just things that, like getting to do that and getting to talk to like, quote unquote normal people. It's just, it's so cool. Like, obviously talking to celebrities and stuff is fun, but those conversations, I'm like, wow. Like, I really am so, like, grateful I get to do this for my job.

[Avery Woods]

Yeah. And also, it just doesn't matter when it comes to mental health, how famous someone is, how well known they are, how much money they have, everyone deals with it.

[Guest]

Yeah.

[Avery Woods]

And I feel like hearing different perspectives. No matter how known they are or if they're just an everyday normal person like we all are, it's nice to hear their thought and their perspective. And that was like the one that we were talking about that he did attempt to take his own life and when he had that chance of redemption, hearing his side of it and like, what went through his head, you know, and it's like, is it worth it?

[Guest]

Yeah.

[Avery Woods]

Or is there more life to live?

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[Tay Lautner]

They have framed jeans.

[Avery Woods]

Nike, yes, just so many good brands.

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[Guest]

Yeah.

[Avery Woods]

So you've been very open about fertility and trying for a baby. Can you kind of walk me through your story and what that looks like for you guys right now?

[Tay Lautner]

Yeah. I think at the moment we are happy as we are, just the two of us. I've definitely. I was just someone that never, like, went to the gynecologist, like, properly.

[Avery Woods]

Yeah.

[Tay Lautner]

And never really. I just. It's so hard to find a doctor that cares about your overall health. Yeah. And I mean, I've been like, someone that has done that firsthand. Like, when you're nursing, it's so hard. Like, you have to remember that it's an individual story, even though, you know, it is a rotating door making sure that that is still a thing. So I never really had someone looking at my overall health. I ended up having this woman. Thais on, she is OB GYN out here, and she's amazing, and she's just, like, revolutionizing women's health. And so after talking with her, she was. She started asking me questions. And I had been on birth control for 10 years and just never, like, had my eggs checked, anything. And she was like, okay, well, you need to, like, come in and see me. So I ended up going in and she said, I actually have a lot of eggs, which is great. We were thinking that that was not going to be a thing. So I am ready to. To house a baby at some point, but. But, yeah, that. I'm very thankful for that. And I had a little bit of a. I had a little bit of a scare because I had a lump on my boob that I had found. And, you know, obviously when you feel a foreign mass in your body, that can be a little scary. And I ended up going seeing a family friend who is an ob and she recommended me to a breast center, and they were able to get me in super fast. And they just said it just happened to be how your tissue has formed. Breast tissue moves around a lot, apparently, which I did not know. And, yeah, it's just. It's still there. It's just like this little, like, mass, but they said it's fine. She did an ultrasound, but I remember I had, like. Was starting to get a lot of texts from people because we had talked about it on the podcast, because I know so many people that have been affected by breast cancer. So I wanted to just shed a light on it.

[Avery Woods]

Yeah.

[Tay Lautner]

And I had never claimed to, obviously, what else would that mass be? But there was a lot of headlines that came out that I had a breast cancer scare. And just, like, seeing it, I was like, oh, I don't I didn't. I don't like that. But I had a lot of people text me, and it made me feel, like, a little.

[Avery Woods]

Violated.

[Tay Lautner]

Yeah, violated. Also, like, guilty because I'm like. I've always like, I'm not. I don't have that. And I don't. I'm not trying to claim that.

[Avery Woods]

No.

[Tay Lautner]

So it just, like, made me feel a little weird. So then I was like, am I gonna keep opening up about these things?

[Avery Woods]

Yeah. And I feel like people like to take that kind of stuff out of context in order to get attention, and it's such a violating thing. You don't want that out.

[Guest]

Yeah.

[Avery Woods]

You know, and I feel that way about myself or my kids, which is why anytime there's anything with them, I just, like, don't share when it comes to personal stuff because it's, you know, it's gonna get out in a negative way.

[Guest]

Yeah.

[Avery Woods]

What's the point? Yeah, but I like what you said, where you said, like, we're happy and good with how we are. Because I feel like there's this timeline, right, for women where you get married and then you expect everyone's like, when are you having kids? Like, when are you gonna get pregnant? It is so important to have that time of just you guys. And I say that from someone that got married at 21 and had my first baby at 23. You know, we never had that time. And it's so sacred and so special. And it also gives you such a great foundation for when you do add kids because it makes marriage harder. Like, let's be honest, you're not able to be super selfish and put your guys marriage first because the kids will always come before you. But if you have that solid foundation, you're gonna breeze through parenthood, you know?

[Tay Lautner]

And it's so funny cause, like, growing up, because I'm an only child, I always wanted to get married young, like, start a family young, have five kids, like, the whole thing. And then when I met my husband, I was like, oh. Like, I'm actually not in a rush to get married. And now I'm like, oh, I'm actually not in a rush to have kids. So it's been really cool to, like, have that mentality shift of not him putting anything on me. He's ready to have kids. He's like, it falls in your court, honey. But just really cool that I like finding someone that makes me feel so content and, like, where I'm at and confident where I'm at.

[Avery Woods]

Yeah, it's cool. Well, you can facetime me anytime, because I love babies.

[Tay Lautner]

Oh, yes.

[Avery Woods]

I'll be at your house all the time.

[Tay Lautner]

I've seen. I've seen your content.

[Avery Woods]

Oh, yeah. All my friends right now are having babies and I'm done with it.

[Guest]

Yeah.

[Avery Woods]

So I get the baby love and I help educate the way I can, but I'm like, good luck tonight. Love you. I'm going home. Like, I did my time.

[Tay Lautner]

I know my best friend, she's a labor and delivery nurse. And I keep telling her, I'm like, you're gonna be there when I have my baby. So, you know, and she's like, oh, yeah, 100%. And she is looking into being a night nurse.

[Avery Woods]

Okay. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Tay Lautner]

I'm trying to get them to move out here. They live in Austin. And I'm like, honey, you can. You can make your salary in three months out here.

[Avery Woods]

Yeah, right.

[Tay Lautner]

With these people. You gotta come out here.

[Avery Woods]

It's crazy. Well, even in nursing, I. So I started my career at Rady Children's. So we lived in San Diego. My son was born in San Diego. And so it was a magnet hospital. It was a reunion.

[Guest]

Yeah.

[Avery Woods]

So to be able to start my career at a place like that was very, very lucky.

[Guest]

Yeah.

[Avery Woods]

And then when we moved to Arizona, I said, this is like normal nursing conditions. What is this? I would tell my friends, like, oh, yeah, we got two 15 minute breaks. Then we got a 45 minute lunch. We would have like nurse union meetings where we talk about our. Our salaries and what we should be making. And because it was like nurse run, they listened to us.

[Guest]

Yeah.

[Avery Woods]

Then I went to Arizona and I remember working during the pandemic up until five days before my C section. And our PICU had us increase our age to 25 because we would only have newborn to 17. But because the hospital was so full of COVID patients and there wasn't enough ICU trained nurses, they made us take patients up to 25. So my last day before maternity leave, I was five days from my C section. I was double vented, and both my patients were over like £400, so I was turning them on my own with a massive belly. And then I remember coming back from maternity leave and it was like our year evaluation and my race for the year was 67 cents. Isn't that crazy? Yeah. And then I also remember because my best friend worked on the adult side of the hospital, so we worked for the same hospital, same corporation, and they got a Covid bonus. Like the adult side nurses got a Covid bonus. And I think it wasn't a lot. It was like $1,500 for the whole year. But that's a lot of money to a nurse. Like, that was a whole paycheck for me. And they refused to give it to us because we were pediatric nurses.

[Tay Lautner]

Oh, wow.

[Avery Woods]

So we didn't get a Covid bonus.

[Tay Lautner]

I don't think we got a Covid bonus.

[Avery Woods]

Yeah.

[Tay Lautner]

Anything.

[Avery Woods]

So that's when I was like, what am I doing?

[Guest]

Yeah.

[Avery Woods]

You know.

[Guest]

Yeah.

[Tay Lautner]

No, it's definitely hard. I mean, when. Because when I started, I was obviously, I like, trained during the day, and then I went to nights and trained a little. And then I was on my own in the first week. I was on my own. The first shift. I was on my own.

[Avery Woods]

That's insane.

[Tay Lautner]

My charge nurse was in. I've worked on a telemetry floor. So my charge nurse was in the monitor room because our tech called out. So I had no charge. I had five patients instead of four. And I had one that was on, not a ventilator, but some form of breathing assistance. And I don't. That we don't do breathing machines.

[Avery Woods]

No.

[Tay Lautner]

I can do heart stuff. I don't do lung things. And there was just like. I literally was just like bawling my eyes out, putting all my PPE on. And we were Covid because our Covid unit obviously had overflow. And so then we became Covid. But no, it was just like absurd. And we would get like, you know, the pizza or. I remember one. I was leaving work. They handed out beach chairs, like foldable lawn chairs. I actually just got rid of it. Cause I was like, it's a bright orange chair. I was like, it's also like, who.

[Avery Woods]

Gave us to you for free to give to us.

[Tay Lautner]

Yeah.

[Avery Woods]

Okay.

[Guest]

Yeah.

[Tay Lautner]

Why do I need a folding chair?

[Avery Woods]

I know at least our doctors would, like, bring us donuts. I was like, thank you. Something. We actually want donuts in the morning when we get there.

[Guest]

Yeah.

[Avery Woods]

You know. Do you miss it? Do you miss nursing?

[Tay Lautner]

There's definitely aspects of it I miss for sure. I love critical thinking and being under pressure.

[Avery Woods]

That's what I tell people all the time, is I miss using my adult brain.

[Guest]

Yeah.

[Avery Woods]

Not that I don't on the business side, but I. This is so bad to say, but like, I miss critically thinking through a code.

[Guest]

Yeah.

[Avery Woods]

And being even like one to one patients. I miss that so much because the kids were so, so sick that I just remember for 12 straight hours. And it's exhausting. Like, you leave and you Feel like you could sleep for three days because you've just been on for 12 hours. But I also miss using the education I worked really hard for, which I'm sure you can relate to. Cause it is not easy to become a nurse. There's a lot that goes into it. And so sometimes I sit here and I'm like, remember when I went to nursing school? That's crazy.

[Tay Lautner]

I know. My license, I have to renew it this year. And I've been debating if I'm actually gonna renew it or if I'm just gonna. Because I'm like, am I actually gonna work as a nurse again?

[Avery Woods]

I know I renewed mine last year, so I think I have to renew it in, like, two more years. Cause I originally got my license in California, and then I ended up transferring it when we moved to Arizona. So my California license is expired, but I still have an active. That's why I'm like, you're not a nurse. I'm like, actually, it's public record.

[Tay Lautner]

Yeah.

[Avery Woods]

I still have the RN after my name. Get it right.

[Guest]

Yeah.

[Avery Woods]

But it's also just, like, a pride thing. I know it's so hard letting it go.

[Tay Lautner]

Letting go. Like, my real job. Like, there's some. There's something. There's something toxic.

[Avery Woods]

And I also just kind of like to be bitchy to people when they have a common saying. I'm like, actually, I do have an active license.

[Guest]

Yeah.

[Avery Woods]

Yeah. I. It's also, there's a certain amount of hours required, so I've been looking into maybe doing mission trips to kind of keep, like, my hours up. So one of my friends is a pediatric plastic surgery PA and she goes to Mexico every March to do cleft lip pallet repairs.

[Guest]

Yeah.

[Avery Woods]

So I was thinking of possibly volunteering and, like, keeping my hours up, but, you know. You want to do it with me? Yeah, maybe we should go.

[Tay Lautner]

Okay.

[Avery Woods]

That'd be kind of fun.

[Tay Lautner]

Yeah.

[Avery Woods]

Like, all of a sudden, plan this. I mean, it's also just I. Sometimes I feel like I'm not contributing enough to society, which is probably not the best way to think. But when you feel like you're making a difference every day, and then you have, like, a totally different career shift, and people just leave mean comments all the time. You're like, do I go back to actually contributing to society?

[Guest]

Yeah.

[Avery Woods]

You know, do you. Do you read your comments or do you read what people say? I've never seen anything negative about you, to be honest with you. But just with my experience with social media, like, have you ever has social media ever affected your mental health in a negative way?

[Tay Lautner]

Yeah, I. Honestly, no. I feel like I've been very blessed with the people that follow me, and my husband's fans are, like, the nicest people. So that has kind of just, like, trickled down to me, and it's been really great. I also feel like. I feel like I'm somewhere, like, in between. Like, I don't. I wouldn't call myself an influencer because there's definitely a lot of parts of my life I don't share because of my husband and just things we want to keep private. Also, I'm just, like, not. I don't, like, post a lot about my life and things going on, which, honestly, I probably should because I'm really slacking in that department.

[Avery Woods]

No. Well, you also have to keep your own peace.

[Guest]

Yeah.

[Avery Woods]

Like, that's. I used to share so much because I knew what people wanted to see and the content did well, and I had the ability to support my family, but now I also have the ability to kind of draw it back a bit.

[Guest]

Yeah.

[Avery Woods]

Because the best advice I ever received is once it's on the Internet, it's never going away.

[Guest]

Yeah.

[Avery Woods]

So don't ever feel pressured to do, like, protect your peace. Seriously.

[Guest]

Yeah.

[Avery Woods]

So important.

[Guest]

Yeah.

[Tay Lautner]

The only time that it really has affected me was we had Whitney on our podcast from the Secret Lives of Morvan Wives.

[Avery Woods]

Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

[Tay Lautner]

And the backlash that we got from it, myself in particular, really, was, like, really?

[Avery Woods]

Just because of her RSV video?

[Tay Lautner]

No, it actually. There wasn't any. I mean, there probably was. I kind of stopped reading the comments at one point, but it was more so that. It was two things. It was one that we didn't push her hard enough to answer questions, which we did. They didn't get the answer they wanted from her, so that's what happened. And then also, I. People were saying that I didn't do a good job at the interview, and I was really, like. It was more so. Less of the comments and more so the standard that I hold myself to when conducting an interview and to the scale that that podcast was, I was like, great. Everyone thinks I'm, like, trash now. And, like, I don't know how to do it. But I ended up talking to Alex when she had Taylor out to one of her live shows in, okay, Dallas or Texas or whatever. And we were talking to her about how the podcast was, and I was telling her, like, about that, and she was like, no. Like, she gave me really good advice, and she was like, no, you Did a great job. Yeah. But just gave me advice on, like, how to take it, which has been, like, from daddy herself. It's been great advice, but no, I also was dealing with a lot of personal stuff. Right before the interview, I had to take a Zofran and anxiety medication. So it was. I know it wasn't the best, but. Yeah, that was the first time I was ever, like, oof. Like, I've never had, like, backlash. And I think that's one of the biggest things is were not, like, a reality podcast.

[Avery Woods]

Yeah.

[Tay Lautner]

And that drew in a lot of.

[Avery Woods]

Reality fans, and the only ones. Dirt.

[Tay Lautner]

Yeah. It's all just, like, the hate comments when we have a reality person on or, like, through the roof. So I think that was. It was just a recipe for disaster. But I'm. I'm very thankful for, like, going through it, and I feel like I learned a lot about how to, like, deal with that, because I've never, like, been on the phone with, like, our publicist or, like, my. My, like, manager being like, you need to, like, it's fine. Like, literally, tomorrow's gonna come, like, two weeks. You're fine.

[Avery Woods]

I also think when people are leaving comments like, you didn't press her enough or get the answer you wanted, that just shows that they don't know what kind of podcast you run. You are hosting a mental health podcast, therefore, you're not gonna pressure someone to be. Feel so uncomfortable that they have to answer.

[Tay Lautner]

Yeah. And, like, I've asked her every. I. I watched the show. I asked her every question. I wanted to know everything that was on there, and. And I'm not. Yeah. We're a mental health. She was very kind, and I'm not gonna push someone to answer a question that they've already answered, but it wasn't the answer that I was looking for, so, you know, that's. That's not on me to do.

[Avery Woods]

Yeah. I'm also friends with a lot of those girls. Well, like, I mutuals a lot of those girls on social media, and I've met a few of them, and it's. They really are such nice women. Like, they are so nice, and they love their family. It is a reality show. They want the drama, they want the dirt, they want the views, and that's kind of what they do on social media to get there, which is fine. That's literally part of their job.

[Guest]

Yeah.

[Avery Woods]

But I think they don't want to hear them speak about normal things about their life, which is. People want to hear that.

[Guest]

Yeah.

[Avery Woods]

You know. Yeah. They. They were like you would be a great addition that show. And I'm like, well I'm not Mormon, I don't live in Utah, I don't belong there. Yeah, it's not gonna happen for me. But you know what, I'm kind of living for it because Scott was born and raised a very lds, he served a two year mission and where we live in Arizona is so Mormon populated.

[Guest]

Yeah.

[Avery Woods]

That it's, it's fun for me to watch that show because I see like what they do every day and I'm surrounded by that. So what do you have coming up? What's new?

[Tay Lautner]

More. More podcast stuff. I feel like we've finally like gotten into our groove of, you know, being a primarily guest driven podcast. It definitely gets a little tough when you know, you could have a couple guests and then life happens, they all cancel. Then you're like, nah, what do I do? So I feel like we finally gotten to like a groove. We have like such a great team and I'm really happy with that. So more podcasts. I'm just ready to like grow more and talk to more people. I have some fun events coming this year with our non profit which I'm super excited about.

[Avery Woods]

Wait, what's your non profit? Tell me that.

[Tay Lautner]

It's called the Lemons Foundation. Everything is like lemon related, very on brand but it's a mental health podcast and or mental health foundation and it's just based. Based on building a community that you know, you can talk about this stuff that's safe to talk about it. But also I'm very big on social media with our account because I believe that what you follow on social media and what you're seeing, it really affects your mental health.

[Avery Woods]

Absolutely.

[Tay Lautner]

So we have Lemons by Tay Instagram account that we post just like good content on little reminders. Check ins every topic of mental health you can think of we post about.

[Avery Woods]

I love that. I always say if social media wasn't my job, I wouldn't have a single social media app on my phone.

[Guest]

Yeah.

[Avery Woods]

Because it's so hard not to play the comparison game and yeah, I just feel like I'm in my block era and I will stand by that till the day I die. Yeah, if, if you don't like the content you're seeing, just block me. What's your like everyday look like?

[Tay Lautner]

It's honestly not that exciting. I work from home obviously, so it honestly is just a lot of work from home. Emails, podcast stuff, go to the gym, walk my dog. It's very. I live. That's Something that I feel like a lot of people assume that because I'm married to an actor that my life looks completely different. But I still like. This morning, I literally, like, I woke up, I washed the dishes, I made myself coffee, I cleaned the counter. I. One of the dogs threw up on their dog bed. I washed the dog bed. I just like, it's so, like, I do my laundry. Like, when I remember I posted something about doing my own laundry and there's so many comments like, oh, my gosh, you do your own laundry. I was like, what?

[Avery Woods]

The way that people automatically assume that I have 20 people living in my house doing everything for me. I'm like, no, what? Yeah, but that. I feel like that's important though, because it keeps you humble and you just live a normal life.

[Guest]

Yeah.

[Tay Lautner]

I'm like, I'm so. My husband also is honestly the most, like, quote unquote, like, normal famous person.

[Avery Woods]

Yeah.

[Tay Lautner]

Like, he's. He's so chill.

[Avery Woods]

Jacqueline has said that. Jacqueline's like, they're the coolest people. They're so chill. Like, you would never know his background. And I love that. That there's nothing better than that.

[Tay Lautner]

Yeah, I couldn't, I couldn't have dated him if he was, like, had an ego or anything. And that, that's honestly what. When people are like, you're like, you're literally dating a celebrity. Like, you're, you're marrying or you're dating Jacob. Like, what the heck? Like, isn't that crazy?

[Avery Woods]

You're like, yeah, he turns into a wolf at night.

[Tay Lautner]

But no, it's like, I forget that also those like Taylor and Twilight are like, completely separate things. Like, it's not him in my mind, but he's just like, so normal that I forget that sometimes I'll be like, we were watching something yesterday and there was someone in it, and he was like, oh, they were on snl. And I was like, who's that? And they're like, oh, they were in this skit of mine. I'm like, oh, I forgot you did snl.

[Avery Woods]

Oh my God.

[Tay Lautner]

Like, he just lived like a whole frickin life before me. And he. And he'll be like, you did too. I'm like, okay, yes, I did live life before you. But I didn't. We didn't. We lived different lives. And he's very much like, normal life is equally as important as celebrity life.

[Avery Woods]

Totally.

[Tay Lautner]

But it's recently I've been like, oh, yeah, you did that, huh?

[Avery Woods]

It's kind of crazy to think about how large the Twilight Franchise was.

[Guest]

Yeah.

[Avery Woods]

Like, actually insane. I can't even imagine. I mean, obviously, timing's everything, and, like, when you guys were meant to meet, you were meant to meet. But it's probably nice that things had, like, settled, because I can't even imagine being in a relationship with someone when their life is that hectic.

[Guest]

Yeah.

[Tay Lautner]

Especially coming. Not coming from that.

[Avery Woods]

Totally.

[Tay Lautner]

Like, I remember our first date. We went on when we were leaving, There was paparazzi outside. And, like, he just, like, opened my door. I got in the car. He gets entrance the car on, puts the sunshades down, and I'm like, oh, what's that for? Like, he's like, oh, it blocks the flash on your face. And, like, we just, like, drive off. And, like, he doesn't really say anything.

[Avery Woods]

Yeah.

[Tay Lautner]

And it's. Cause it's, like, normal for him, but it's also cool because he's. He's allowed me to just, like, live these things out. Like, the first time we went to New York and did press together, and I'm like, on these morning shows and doing these interviews on live television, and they're like, how did he prep you? I'm like, like, wait, he didn't prep me at all. Like, what are we. So it's cool. It's. It's cool. Obviously, if he felt like I needed to be prepped or something, he would. But it's cool that he's like. He doesn't give it attention. So it's cool that he's just like, I've gotten to just kind of live these things out and be like, oh, like, that's really cool. Obviously, I'm so grateful for, like, all of these experiences, but he doesn't, like, value it, so it makes it more normal.

[Avery Woods]

Yeah.

[Tay Lautner]

How did he propose to you in our kitchen?

[Avery Woods]

My husband proposed to me in our kitchen.

[Tay Lautner]

I love that.

[Avery Woods]

I was studying for nursing school, and I was sitting on our bar stool.

[Tay Lautner]

That was literally. I always told Taylor, I was like, that's what I want is like, I want to just be washing dishes one night and you just whip out the ring. Because he ended up having it for almost, like. I think he had it for, like, nine months.

[Avery Woods]

Dang.

[Tay Lautner]

And I know him, and I know that big decisions, he wants them to be perfect. Like, he put so much pressure on himself to, like, he had a bunch of different ideas before he actually ended up doing it. And I know that he's like that. So I was like, hey, I don't want you to. Like, I don't need the people I Don't need a slang. I don't need anything. I honestly would prefer it just us. And he was like, okay. So I ended up going to an event, and I came home, and there was, like, roses everywhere. And he proposed that home, and it was so sweet.

[Avery Woods]

Okay. Weirdly similar story. So we had our first day at a place called Postino. I don't think they have them here, but it's like. Like boards of bruschetta and wine. It's the best place ever. And we sat at an outdoor patio space next to a fireplace. And apparently he proposed the day after my birthday to kind of, like, throw me off. I thought he was gonna propose my birthday. And of course, he had to, you know, not do that and throw me for a loop.

[Guest]

Yeah.

[Avery Woods]

But apparently he had reserved that same table to do it in public and, like, hire a photographer. And I don't know why, but I had a feeling it was coming soon. I didn't, like, find a ring or anything. I just was kind of like, I feel like it's gonna happen at some point. And I told him. I was like, just so you know, if you ever propose, like, I would love for it to not be in public. And I really don't want, like, a big flashy thing because I get really bad social anxiety.

[Guest]

Yeah.

[Avery Woods]

And I was like, especially for such a big moment where people are gonna, like, clap, and I don't want that. I don't want the attention. I was like, I would rather be literally in my underwear at home and have you propose.

[Guest]

Yeah.

[Avery Woods]

And that's what he did. And I was so happy. And I love that it was just a moment with us, you know?

[Tay Lautner]

I know.

[Avery Woods]

I feel like events like that are so massive now.

[Guest]

Yeah.

[Avery Woods]

Like, I see people skydiving and propose. I'm like, what is that?

[Tay Lautner]

No.

[Avery Woods]

Which. I'm like, good for you. Like, that's amazing.

[Tay Lautner]

No, I love. I love seeing.

[Avery Woods]

Yeah. I love watching it.

[Tay Lautner]

Yes.

[Avery Woods]

My worst nightmare, if it happened to.

[Tay Lautner]

You, I already have, like, anxiety about. Obviously, like, the next, like, reveal thing is one, obviously, when we get pregnant. But two, like, the gender reveal. And I have told Taylor. I was like, we are like, I'm. Someone's gonna get a cake for us, and you and I are gonna do it in our kitchen. Like, I'm not. Like, I can't.

[Avery Woods]

Yeah. Or you could do what I did and just not find out till birth.

[Tay Lautner]

I don't think I can do that. My best friend wants to do that because her sister did that.

[Avery Woods]

Okay.

[Tay Lautner]

Your sister did that for the first one and then found out for the second one. I just, I. I would really have to put, like my planning, type A brain aside.

[Avery Woods]

Yeah. So here's what I'll say. My first one, I found out.

[Tay Lautner]

Okay.

[Avery Woods]

Because I feel like when you're a first time mom, you need to plan all that stuff. And it's actually probably better for your mental health because I feel like it might. I don't know, I wouldn't say overwhelming, but. But it is a bit easier now because everything's gender neutral.

[Tay Lautner]

Right.

[Avery Woods]

Everyone loves, like the creams and neutrals and wood. So I found out for him. But for my second, I knew it was our last. And I was like, I don't care what the gender is. And so actually, one of my best friends, Emily's pregnant and she has a son. And I try to convince her forever. I was like, when you have your next baby, you have to do a surprise gender. And she was like, no, no, no, I'm not doing. I'm not doing it. And then one day I was at their house and I showed her and her husband Brady, a video of my daughter being born. And my husband told me the gender when she was delivered. And her husband was sobbing, like tears down his eyes. And he was like, next baby, we're not finding out. So she's due quite soon. And they don't know the gender. And I'm so excited for them. But they found out for their first.

[Guest]

Yeah.

[Avery Woods]

So it's different because when you're a second time mom, you know what you need. You know what you don't. You're not as anxious. You kind of know it to expect.

[Guest]

Yeah.

[Avery Woods]

But I will say for your first baby, it's so fun to, like, buy all the stuff, you know, and like, pick out the name ahead of time and. Yeah, it's fun.

[Tay Lautner]

Yeah, I do.

[Guest]

Yeah.

[Tay Lautner]

Maybe. Maybe for the second. I'll report. I'll report back if I can.

[Avery Woods]

I'm excited for you guys. You're gonna be such great parents. Seriously. And you know you can call me whenever.

[Guest]

Yes.

[Avery Woods]

Because I. If you're like, I need to take a nap, call me, please. I'm like, I will feed your baby a bottle.

[Tay Lautner]

It'll be amazing. I love that.

[Avery Woods]

Well, thank you for being here. It was such an honor to get to know you better. And I'm gonna see a lot more of you soon because we have some mu friends. So thank you for being here. Cheers. Guys.

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