life with lady | abby baffoe

Summary

Podcast Summary: CHEERS! with Avery Woods - Episode: Life with Lady | Abby Baffoe

Release Date: June 9, 2025

In this engaging episode of CHEERS! with Avery Woods, host Avery Woods sits down with guest Abby Baffoe to explore various facets of Abby's personal and professional life. Filmed in April during their trip to New York City, the conversation delves into Abby's recent experiences, career trajectory, social media presence, and personal life, providing listeners with an authentic glimpse into her world.

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1. Reconnecting and Reflecting on Past Memories

Avery Woods (A) and Abby Baffoe (B) begin the episode by reminiscing about how they met, likely during a trip to Bora Bora in 2023 or 2024. They share fond memories of spending a night together with fireworks on the beach, marking their one-year anniversary.

[01:33] A: "It was Bora. We were together."

[02:20] A: "It was so nice. I remember when I met you, and I immediately was like, oh, this is so real and so cool."

2. Personal Growth Post-Breakup

Avery inquires about Abby's wellbeing following a recent breakup. Abby opens up about the breakup happening just before their Bora Bora trip, highlighting her belief that "time heals all".

[02:38] A: "So really, though, you have, like, recently gone through a lot. So how are you actually doing?"

[02:45] B: "I'm a great spot. I, you know, career's taken off. I moved to New York. I'm dating a little bit, so, yeah, things are great."

3. Transition from Chicago to New York City

Abby discusses her move from the Chicago suburbs to California and eventually to New York City. She contrasts her expectations of California with the reality, expressing a preference for New York’s vibrant fashion scene.

[04:22] B: "I think New York has a lot more to offer with fashion. I'm also like, a city girl."

4. Life in New York vs. Los Angeles

The duo delves into the differences between living in New York City and Los Angeles, focusing on walkability, safety, and lifestyle. Avery emphasizes the convenience of walking everywhere in New York, while Abby shares her less favorable experiences in LA.

[05:10] A: "LA is almost like a state in itself. You have the city, obviously, but there's also different pockets, suburbs, nice beaches like Malibu."

[08:40] A: "Walking around LA can be scary. New York feels more genuine and safe."

5. Introducing Abby's Dog: Lady

Abby introduces her three-month-old miniature dachshund, Lady, sharing insights into puppy training and the challenges of integrating a pet into her life.

[09:27] A: "How is puppy training going and all of that?"

[10:35] B: "She sleeps in her crate seven, eight hours a night. What we don't have down she'll, and piss wherever she pleases. We're working on that."

6. Navigating Motherhood and Pet Parenthood

Abby opens up about balancing motherhood with caring for Lady. She discusses the adjustments required and the joys and challenges that come with having both a child and a pet.

[12:18] B: "I used to be able to do whatever I wanted, but now I'm responsible for an actual living thing."

[32:35] A: "You've got a baby and a dog. That's awesome."

7. Building a Social Media Presence and Closing Her Boutique

Abby shares her journey from running an online boutique to focusing on her social media platforms. She discusses the rapid growth of her TikTok following and the decision to close her boutique in 2022, despite receiving takeover offers.

[18:06] A: "Did you sell your boutique?"

[18:12] B: "I just closed it in 2022. Things took off quickly for me on TikTok."

8. Embracing Authenticity and Transparency

A significant portion of their conversation revolves around the importance of authenticity in the influencer industry. Abby emphasizes being transparent about her experiences, including her plastic surgery journey, to build genuine connections with her audience.

[22:31] B: "I think transparency is the most important thing. I can't just get my tits thrown on and then just be like, yeah."

[22:55] A: "I'd rather just be honest and you can hold that against me, but you can't say I'm a liar."

9. Managing Brand Collaborations and Workload

The discussion shifts to the complexities of brand collaborations and the relentless demands of creating content. Both Avery and Abby express a desire to hire assistants to manage their expanding responsibilities, highlighting the challenges of maintaining control while delegating tasks.

[24:35] B: "I just posted you. We're hiring for an assistant."

[25:30] A: "Being a control freak, I don't have an assistant."

10. Family Background and Personal Values

Abby provides a glimpse into her family life, revealing she is one of six siblings. She attributes her confidence and resilience to growing up in a large, supportive family environment. Additionally, Abby shares her commitment to vegetarianism, inspired by her mother's compassion for animals.

[43:34] B: "I've been vegetarian half my life because I feel bad for the animals."

[44:01] A: "Sherry, we love you. You're amazing."

11. The Reality of Brand Trips

Avery and Abby discuss the often glamorized perception of brand trips versus the reality. They reveal the exhaustive schedules, constant content creation, and high expectations that come with sponsored travel, debunking the notion that such trips are purely relaxing vacations.

[53:12] B: "When they don't require posting like the first trip was just like traveling without requirements, so naturally I was posting like 15 times a day."

[52:33] A: "You're expected to look a certain way, dress a certain way every night."

12. Dating in New York City as a Single Woman

Abby candidly shares her experiences and challenges of dating in NYC as a single woman. She discusses the overwhelming number of potential partners, the cultural pressures, and her strategies for maintaining control and setting boundaries in relationships.

[53:54] A: "What's it like being a young single girl in New York dating?"

[54:05] B: "When you meet someone you're cute, I'll ask if you're on social media. If not, let's go on a date."

13. Staying Grounded Amidst Fame and Success

Concluding the episode, Avery and Abby reflect on the importance of staying grounded despite their growing fame and success. They attribute their ability to remain humble to their strong family ties and loyalty to long-standing friends.

[56:35] A: "How do you stay grounded in this industry?"

[56:47] B: "My family keeps me super grounded. The people in my life have been the same for pretty much ever."

Final Thoughts

The episode wraps up with mutual appreciation and encouragement between Avery and Abby, reinforcing the value of authentic relationships and personal grounding amidst the whirlwind of influencer life.

[59:39] B: "You have your dream apartment and your baby lady."

[60:19] A: "Cheers guys."

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Notable Quotes:

• Avery Woods: "I have trauma from that night. Actually, I'm glad we're talking about. This is almost like therapy for me." [07:44]

• Abby Baffoe: "I think as women, like, we have this timeline, societal standards, and I was like, oh, my God, like, I wanted to be married by 29, have my kids by 30, and then that just all like, plummeted." [45:43]

• Avery Woods: "You seem like, knowing you personally, you seem so content of where you are." [46:16]

This episode offers a heartfelt and honest conversation between two women navigating the complexities of personal growth, career advancement, and maintaining authenticity in the fast-paced world of social media and influencer culture. Abby Baffoe's journey from business owner to social media influencer, coupled with her personal experiences and values, provides listeners with valuable insights and relatable moments.

Transcript

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[B]

Hi, Avery.

[A]

How are you?

[B]

I'm so good.

[A]

I'm so happy to see you.

[B]

No, I'm so pumped.

[A]

Did we meet in 2023?

[B]

Okay. I was thinking about this also. I think we met at the tart trip.

[A]

That was Bora.

[B]

Was that.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I don't know. I'm so bad with like years. I think that was 2023.

[A]

Yeah, I think it was 2023. No, 2024. It was last year because it was Bora.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

With the fireworks on the beach.

[B]

We were together.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So what's kind of crazy is that does feel like a really long.

[B]

No, that feels like ancient. Doesn't it?

[A]

But it was March of that year, so we like just hit a year.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh my God. One year anniversary.

[B]

I know. And look at us.

[A]

And you brought me a gift today, which was so sweet.

[B]

I did. For the dirty 30.

[A]

Yeah. You brought me. What were they called?

[B]

Levain.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

They're the best cookies.

[A]

Yeah. Everyone knows. I love. This is actually quite concerning because I feel like anything that comes up in my life, I'm only gifted food at this point. And I'm kind of like, is that like what represents me? I'm not mad.

[B]

No, I love it. And honestly, I was like, you could do a little like taste test review of them.

[A]

I'm going to.

[B]

Can't really bring you flowers.

[A]

No, no. Because when I did my insomnia cookie video, everyone from New York was like, you have to get Levine cookies. Every single one. And I was like, what are these cookies?

[B]

Oh, that's perfect.

[A]

And then you brought them.

[B]

Yeah. No, you're literally gonna love them.

[A]

That was so nice. I remember when I met you, and I immediately was like, oh, this is so real and so cool.

[B]

Oh, I love that.

[A]

And likewise, I thank you. I feel like that's so rare in this industry, though. So it's n. You, like, meet someone that you vibe with, and you know they're down to earth.

[B]

Yeah. I think that's why we, like, bonded 100%. Yeah.

[A]

Okay. So really, though, you are. You have, like, recently gone through a lot. So how are you actually doing?

[B]

Well, so it's funny because when you said about the Bora Bora thing, that was. I literally, like, went through my breakup right before that.

[A]

I remember you talking about it. Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. And so it was crazy that, like. I mean, what a great way to, like, kick off a breakup and go to Bora Bora. Just party.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But I'm good. I mean, honestly, I'm such a believer that, like, time heals all. It's been, you know, a while now, and I'm in a great spot. I, you know, career's taken off. I moved to New York.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I'm dating a little bit, so, yeah, things are great.

[A]

Yeah. You're. You came from Chicago, right?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

And so you went from Chicago to New York City.

[B]

Yeah, So I actually grew up in the Chicago suburbs.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And, like, right after college, I was like, I'm moving. I need to, like, leave.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And then I met a guy who we were just talking about, and we actually moved to California together. But not. No, not Southern. We were in San Jose.

[A]

Oh, got it, girl. Yeah.

[B]

Dark times.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

Like, I was like, oh, my God. California. Like, I was going to be in bikini every day, like, going to the beach. No.

[A]

California is so massive. Like, there's so many different pockets that even.

[B]

No. So it was, like, we were in, like, a suburban neighborhood. Like, it was just not what I thought it was going to be. But then we moved to Jersey City, which is, like, super close to here.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And then now I'm in Manhattan, period. So kind of been all over.

[A]

How long have you been in New York?

[B]

I've been in New York for, like, I'm going into my second year, and.

[A]

I feel like there's, like, the west coast and east coast influencers where, like, you kind of go to one hub or the other, which is LA or New York.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Were you drawn to New York because of the work opportunities, or was it more so, like, personal life?

[B]

Yeah. I also think I'm really into, like, the fashion industry and Everything. And I think New York has a lot more to offer with that. I'm also like, a city girl.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know, I grew up in Chicago. I think New York is like Chicago, but a lot shittier and dirtier. But, like, I love it. Obviously, I'm here, you know, so, like, I. And I also had a bad taste in my mouth about California.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Not that I was in la, but I just was like, okay, bye. California?

[A]

No, I was talking about in my last episode where I did a solo. I was talking about things I've Learned in my third, like, in my 30 years of life. And one thing was what your environment is, is a huge impact on your life and your mental health. And if you're surrounded by a negative environment, you're not going to thrive.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, you're held back.

[B]

I mean, what are your thoughts about la? Like, I also just don't think I would thrive in a setting like that.

[A]

Here's my thing. LA is almost like a state in itself, because you have the city, obviously, but there's also different pockets of the city. And then you have, like, suburbs. Right. Like, where most of families are or the good schools. But also we're big beach people. So you have the opportunity to live close to the beach, like nice beaches, like Malibu.

[B]

Right.

[A]

And then you can also drive into the city for work. So we're, like, so far removed that I can get to downtown in less than an hour. Or, like, working from home, I don't really need to, like. Yeah, we feel like where we're at is almost like a small town, like a tiny little community because we never have to leave.

[B]

Yeah, I could totally see that. And, like, you have a family, you're married. Like, me being single, living there, like, I just don't think it'd be good for you.

[A]

It's also so different. Like, I was talking to Scott about how it's easier just to walk everywhere here. Like, you order an Uber and it takes 25 minutes to get there and you could walk, like, seven minutes.

[B]

No, I have a funny story. Last time I was in la, actually, I think it was for the Wella premiere that we were at together.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

Dude. Oh, my God.

[A]

I saw myself with Abby. Okay, that's. Abby was there for that.

[B]

Oh, my God, that's so funny.

[A]

I forget that you were literally standing right above me. Did I? Okay. I have to tell you the craziest thing, though, before you continue, because I will forget to tell you. I was somewhere in la, I don't know where, and I Had two girls stop me and they're like, oh, my God, Avery. We were the girls that told you she got stung by a bee. No, we had just met her. We knew nothing about her. But we heard someone say she got stung. That's why we told you she was anaphylactic. They didn't even know the girl was.

[B]

In fact, not a bee sting. Like, that was so crazy. Dude.

[A]

I. My.

[B]

Have you talked about that online?

[A]

Oh, yeah, yeah. That was like a huge thing. And we were dying because I was like, obviously I was an ice unior, so I've pushed EPI a million times, but through a vein. I've never. Like, you don't use EpiPens in a hospital setting unless the patient doesn't have a line like an iv. Never did that in my entire career.

[B]

Also, it was like so chaotic. There was a million people like her.

[A]

Her legs are all out. I'm like trying to keep her covered for privacy. Like, people are freaking out. There' no medic literally anywhere.

[B]

No, but I. After that, I was like, oh, my God, Avery's like a superhero.

[A]

I've never stopped myself.

[B]

Besides stabbing yourself with the EpiPen, I've never seen somebody jump into action like that so quickly. Like, I was like, damn. Then I was like, oh, I forgot you were like literally a nurse.

[A]

Oh, my God. No, the best part is my getty image was the ugliest thing I've ever seen because I could hear in my head, my bag, like shaking against my secret. My hands were like, my veins were just pumping full of.

[B]

And then you had to sit through a four hour movie.

[A]

I remember I was like holding you and like, Jacqueline, to help me walk.

[B]

Your feet were like bleeding. Yeah, you kind of went through it.

[A]

Dude, I have trauma from that night. Actually, I'm glad we're talking about. This is almost like therapy for me.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And then I had to like watch the movie again because I forgot everything that happened because the entire movie premiere I was like this, holding my thumb. It was stark white from the knuckle to my fingertip.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

Because I had like no circulation. It was just full of EPI and I was holding it cuz it was ice cold. And the whole movie and I'm like, just get through it. Just get through it.

[B]

I can't even believe that you sat through that movie while injected with an ivy pen.

[A]

Dude, I forgot you were there. That's an iconic moment.

[B]

That's actually hilarious.

[A]

Yeah, Jacqueline, I still talk about that moment. Wow.

[B]

But getting back to the walking Thing.

[A]

Yes, yes, yes.

[B]

When I was there for that, I got my hair done because like little guy sees in LA and I was like, oh, I'm gonna walk to Erewhon. I'm not kidding. It was like a 12 minute walk. And somebody literally said to me, are you poor? I was like, oh, you guys really don't fucking walk here.

[A]

Like, they don't walk.

[B]

Oh my God. It's, it's also like not walk friendly.

[A]

No, it's not.

[B]

I would say no sidewalks.

[A]

Yeah. And if you live in like more suburbs area, like where I am, like the Valley, I guess you could say it's more hilly.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

There's a lot of hills. So there are parts that you just can't walk to. But like in the city, it also can be very scary to walk in L. A. Like I was. New York obviously has like a lot of interesting people on the streets, but I feel safe, genuine. Like, generally, no, no matter where I.

[B]

Am, because almost there's so many people.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know what I mean?

[A]

Yeah. But in la, it's a little bit different. I feel a little bit unsafe.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Walking around.

[B]

Yeah. People look at me like I was crazy because I was doing a 12 minute walk.

[A]

I just like to ask if you're poor. That's so nuts.

[B]

Yep. That's like. Oh, okay.

[A]

Okay. So speaking of this little whiny baby over here.

[B]

I know Scotty's holding the baby that's crying.

[A]

Tell me about your baby.

[B]

So I just got a miniature dachshund. Her name is Lady. She's literally the cutest thing in the world. She's actually three months old today.

[A]

Scott's gonna bring her over.

[B]

Yeah. I'm gonna see if maybe she'll.

[A]

I'm telling you, lady is the cutest name I've ever heard.

[B]

Sorry. I just punched Scotty in the face.

[A]

Are you gonna get a boy name him tramp?

[B]

I should honestly look at her if.

[A]

You guys are watching. She's crazy cute.

[B]

She's crazy cute. She's gotten so big. She's like so sassy. So stubborn. They say the dachshunds are. And like now I'm starting to see it now that she's like, been home for a little bit.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But she's so sweet.

[A]

How old is she?

[B]

She's three months.

[A]

How long have you had her?

[B]

Oh, like, only I've had her for like three weeks.

[A]

Three weeks, okay. Yeah, I, I, this was the kind of dog that I wanted. If I said, like, if we decided to get a family dog, but then we went with cats because my son is so obsessed.

[B]

I was gonna ask if you guys were dog people.

[A]

We love dogs, but Ziggy has, like, this obsession with cats since he was, like, 3 years old. He loves them. And so when we found our cats, it was kind of perfect. But if we didn't get a cat, that's the kind of dog I would.

[B]

Yeah, because, like, super easy for New York. Like a good apartment dog.

[A]

Totally. Actually, this is my show.

[B]

Oh. Literally, she's like, I have things to say.

[A]

She's precious. So how is puppy training going and all of that?

[B]

Okay, honestly, like, this girl's an anomaly. Like, people. I keep posting, like, vlogs with her, and people are like, this is unrealistic. This is. But I'm like, it's not. Like, she literally is just, like, so good. She sleeps in her crate seven, eight hours a night, period. What we don't have down she'll. And piss wherever she pleases. She doesn't even give me a warning. So, like, we're working on that. But other than that, I can't really complain. Like, she's so good.

[A]

It's funny when people leave comments like that. Like, you're lying.

[B]

No, no, I know. I'm like, I'm actually filming every second. So at what point could I feel.

[A]

Like, yeah, I cut out the 40.

[B]

Times I responded, I was like, or our experiences are different because every dog is different. You know? Like, what a wild concept.

[A]

Yeah. You said she was up at 5am this morning, though, right?

[B]

Yes, she woke up at 5am But I put her back to bed at 10. So, like, that's seven hours.

[A]

Hey, you can't blame her.

[B]

Yeah, no, literally, you know what?

[A]

You're just preparing yourself for motherhood.

[B]

I'm a mother.

[A]

Beautiful.

[B]

You literally.

[A]

Guys, she walked in with, like, a baby sling.

[B]

No, I know. It's actually.

[A]

Crazy lady was sitting in this baby swing with her little head hanging out with her fuzzy ears.

[B]

No, but I will say I'm, like, ready to fight people. Like, I don't even know how you push your kids on the Internet because, like, the unsolicited opinions and advice, I'm like, I am literally ready to fight anybody. Like, you guys are gonna hate me when I'm a mom.

[A]

Dude. It's. It's crazy because it's also funny when people just, like, give their unsolicited, also uneducated opinion.

[B]

No, everybody's a professional. I'm like, please look at her.

[A]

She's obviously so happy and she loves you so much.

[B]

I know, I'm like, she's chilling. She's like, don't call it paw patrol, y' all.

[A]

What's. What's been the biggest adjustment, like, the hardest part about having her?

[B]

I mean, leaving is really hard because, like, I have a furbo and I watch her every second and she's crying and I like.

[A]

Is that like, the camera?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And then I just have, like, bad anxiety, but I know it's good for her.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And then also, like, I used to be able to do whatever I wanted.

[A]

You know what I mean?

[B]

Like, I'm like, oh. Like, I'm responsible for, like, an actual living thing right now. So, like, even going to a workout class is like a whole production. I have to, like, set up her gate, get out her toys. Like, you know, everything takes me a little bit longer now.

[A]

Yeah. And I do feel like, because she's so tiny, obviously you just carry around. But New York is very dog friendly. Like, so many people.

[B]

I mean, I'll bring her into restaurants, like, people don't even care.

[A]

Yeah. I love it.

[B]

Yeah. I. That's so nice.

[A]

I'm curious because I don't know this about you, but what did you do before social media?

[B]

So I graduated with a fashion degree at Illinois State University. And after college. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, kind of a random school to get a fashion degree.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But Chicago, like, also doesn't really have, like, a fashion industry and didn't really, like, offer, like, I could be, like, a buyer at, like, Nordstrom. Like, I just, like, didn't want to do that. I want something more, like, fabulous, exciting.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So I actually opened up my own online boutique and I was selling clothing. So when I was in Northern California, I would, like, drive down to LA and go to the fashion district, pick out all my wholesale clothes.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[B]

Yeah. And I sold. That's kind of how I, like, feel. Like things took off for me on Tick Tock is like, I'd be trying to sell a shirt, and then people be like, wait, how'd you do your makeup? How'd you do your hair? Or like, where are you from? You know, like. And I was like, oh, they, like, care.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

About my personal life and, like.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Beauty tips and stuff. So. And I'm a, you know, work smarter, not harder kind of girl. Wait, that took all my time. So.

[A]

No, that's genius.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

How. How long did it take before you were like, or. Or what made. This is a job for me now.

[B]

Oh, my God. Like, it's so funny. I always think about this When I remember like when the first brand reached out, it was like not even a big brand, but they were like, oh, can we like how much do you charge to post something? And I was like, what?

[A]

No. When you get to a point where like people make money from this.

[B]

Yeah. Like I kind of just thought it was like cool to like create a community and stuff. I like wasn't really even thinking like monetary wise, you know what I mean? So I was like, okay. Like I'd literally be like $40. They'd say yes. I was like, yeah, oh dude, $40.

[A]

Any money to me was wild. Cuz I was like, it's a photo, like it's a video.

[B]

It's crazy.

[A]

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[B]

Get rid of lady because she can't.

[A]

But yeah.

[B]

Oh yeah, Lady.

[A]

Lady left us like she's crying in the morning, she needs to go potty.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So did you sell your boutique?

[B]

No, I actually didn't sell it, which, like, I don't know why, because I also had like, offers for people that like, wanted to like, take it over.

[A]

So you just closed it?

[B]

Yeah, I just closed it. Yeah.

[A]

How long ago was that?

[B]

That was, I want to say it ended in like 2022.

[A]

Oh, dang. So you like, blew up quick and.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Went going with it.

[B]

Yeah. Like, I had that one video where I like, like made a joke about having a BBL and I literally gained like 300, 000 followers over a span of like two days. Oh, my God. And then that's when things really started picking up, like, actual money for videos. Actual, like, community, you know.

[A]

What video is that?

[B]

I was like, I. I basically said like, oh, guys, like, this is real. Like, everyone thinks I have a bbl and I like, I have the flat assistance.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay. I know exactly what you're talking about. We'll put it on the screen.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. And then it was like Chris Olsen, like, redid it. Like all these, like, bigger people, people started redoing it. It like, I don't know, kind of took off. So, yeah, I kind of feel like that was like the pivotal time almost.

[A]

It was. But I also think people appreciate personality.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Even though I will say having personality can get you in trouble sometimes because people are so.

[B]

You have to own it.

[A]

You have to own it and you have to just be like, well, this is me.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I'm gonna block you.

[B]

Right.

[A]

But people appreciate when you're funny and like, make fun of yourself.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I do think that's also when things change. Is like, like I look at my old videos, I'm like, I didn't even sou myself. Like, I was like, hey, guys.

[A]

Oh my God. I have such an old Kim Kardashian where it's like, hey, guys.

[B]

Every video caked on makeup, like, felt like I had to look like a certain way. Now I'm like, what's up?

[A]

I'm going to throw. I would like, pose.

[B]

I was like, yeah, no, I can't. I'm like, it's crazy.

[A]

Someone commented on one of my commented on one of my old videos the other day and I haven't checked comments in like, probably three months. But like, you know when you're on like, uploading, like, something drops down, it like, shows you. It was one of my, like, like first Amazon try on haul videos because I've worked with Amazon, like since COD nursing. So like 2017 I think.

[B]

Yeah. Wow.

[A]

That was like where I would find my free people dupes. And anyways I would get paid like in gift cards. Like 25amonth.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But I was doing like an Amazon try on haul like when Tick Tock first came out because I was like, oh I'm gonna make coin and these gift cards.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And of course it has like 3 likes and someone commented and was like watching. This is so inspirational. Look where she is.

[B]

Wait, I just had the same thing happen.

[A]

Oh my God.

[B]

Oh you guys could see these.

[A]

I forgot video myself.

[B]

Oh I know.

[A]

Yeah. Cuz you know she watched that and she was like, oh.

[B]

I do think it was like kind of cute to see like the transition and everything, you know. So I'm like, I don't know. Whatever.

[A]

Yeah, it's so. And like the filters. Oh my God.

[B]

Filters started. Why did we do that?

[A]

Oh my God. Okay, speaking of bbl, you were open about your plastic surgery journey because you get your tatas done.

[B]

Yes, I got my boobies done.

[A]

Did you get those before? After Bora Bore? Because we talked about it but I can't remember.

[B]

Dude, those puppies were fresh.

[A]

That's right. Okay. Cuz you were like, dude, feel how hard these are now. Was like, I swear they'll drop.

[B]

I was like, oh my God. Like one was higher than the other. It was like not a pretty sight at first. But I loved them. Like I still. It's so funny cuz I look back and I'm like I was obsessed with them from day one.

[A]

Oh for sure. Especially when you have something on your body that you wish was different for a long time. Yeah, there's nothing but like my nose. Oh my God. Best decision I've ever made.

[B]

Also best nose job I've ever seen in my life.

[A]

Dude. What's crazy? We were just talking about this with the last person we were interviewing that it's only I think five months post op and it takes one to two years for it to be like settled.

[B]

This is the best nose I've ever seen.

[A]

Crazy.

[B]

It's crazy.

[A]

Dude, if you ever get your nose done, you have to go to my doctor in Arizona.

[B]

I mean literally, I've had friends talking about like getting their nose done. I'm like, I know girl, you need to go to her doctor.

[A]

Dude. So good cuz you can like really your face up.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. And also I feel like you didn't have like major like.

[A]

No, I didn't have to get my bone broken. That was a big thing that people were like, I don't understand why you weren't bruised a lot. Or like I shot my podcast like re. I did my second podcast cover when I signed to unwell and I did that I think three weeks post op.

[B]

Damn.

[A]

Which is I still had stitches hanging out.

[B]

I mean you were like making videos and I was like, it barely looks like she got.

[A]

I know it's crazy, but again, I didn't have to get my bone broken.

[B]

Yeah. That's a huge difference.

[A]

A lot of people get like the really bad black eyes or be really swollen.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So I was lucky in that sense.

[B]

But yeah.

[A]

Yeah. Anyways, we've both been very open about plastic surgery. So what's your reason behind that? Why do you want to talk about it?

[B]

Honestly, I feel like the issue comes when people are not honest about it. You know what I mean? Like, I think that that detrimental to young girls and stuff. And like, yes, obviously maybe talking about it might encourage somebody to like get something done that they didn't normally think of. But like you can't control everyone's minds and like the way they think. And for me I just think transparency is the most important thing. Like, and I also like, we film every second of our lives. I can't just get like totally tits thrown on and then just be like, yeah.

[A]

And I also supplements like it's crazy because you, it's kind of like a double edged sword. I, I, I talk about this all the time about how if I am honest and I'm fake, but if I don't talk about it, I'm a liar or like give unrealistic expectations. So it's almost like pick and choose your battles because people will hold that against me forever. That I got plastic surgery, it's so weird to me, but I'm like, but if I lied, I would be in so much more trouble. Like you would come for me. So I'm like, I'd rather just be honest and you can hold that against me, but you can't say I'm a liar.

[B]

Yeah. And also you, like, you can't please everybody. Everybody has an opinion. Everybody wants to be mad about something. I know, it's Yeah. I think the transparency is.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Great.

[A]

What's your ultimate goal with your platform? Like do you think you would get into fashion like design wise or do you think more like marketing wise?

[B]

I think I'd probably go more like marketing wise. Like beauty wise. Like, yeah, I would love to do a hair company. I just think it's like fitting for me, Totally. Yeah. So yeah, I'm kind of like going more that way with it. I think right now I'm just loving like what I'm doing.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Creating content, you know, like going on trips, meeting people. So it's not something that I'm like jumping on right away. I also know it's going to cost me a lot of money and a lot of time, so. But yeah, that's definitely like, I would say like two, three year plan.

[A]

Do you think you would start a brand or do you think you would like collab with a brand?

[B]

So I've actually like kind of been talking about like more of a collab, which I think takes a lot. I mean it would be my brand, but like their basically like the manufacturer and everything.

[A]

For sure. For sure.

[B]

And I just think that that's so much easier. Like I've already started a brand. I told you about the boutique. It's hard.

[A]

You know what it takes.

[B]

Yeah. There's so much that goes into it. So yeah, if I could take like a little load off, why not do it that way?

[A]

Yeah. And I think what your background has given you too, like with your education and owning a business already, you're already two steps ahead because you know what it takes. Because I feel like a lot of people in this industry start brands and they're like way in over their head or they realize it's just not for them. Like I have friends that have started in closed businesses because they're like, to be honest, like, I got no joy in fulfillment. Like, it wasn't for me and I was so much more creative and I wanted to use that outlet. And so they shut it down.

[B]

Yeah. And it's also like hard. That's why I'm like, it'd be so nice to like have a team of people now.

[A]

Oh yeah, dude.

[B]

Like not have to do everything yourself.

[A]

We were just talking about that because I'm like such a control freak that I don't have an assistant. Do you have an assistant?

[B]

I just posted you.

[A]

Yeah, we're hiring.

[B]

Yeah, I'm like in the hiring process.

[A]

Okay. That when I saw that I was like, hey, this is my sign. I need to stop making excuses.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Because it's hard to give up control.

[B]

It's hard to hand off the baton. Like for me I wouldn't like jump in where I'm like having you like edit and like whatever. Like I'm also control freaking that way. But yeah, like helping film with content and stuff like that I think would just be so nice for sure.

[A]

And even I told David, I was like, it's so sad that, like, I would love to have someone just to open my boxes.

[B]

No, I know, I know, I know.

[A]

Organized so I can be like, I want to donate this to the women's shelter to like, make runs every week. And like, that's David's job. I'm like, can you please go? Like, he, like, does the donation drop offs, but that's so sweet. It, like, it's the small stuff that adds up because again, when you film pretty much your whole life and like, what you're doing every day, that small stuff, like, gets set aside. And then I feel like at night I'm like, I'm just finished and I have. Have so much.

[B]

Yeah, and then you, like, don't want to do the tedious.

[A]

Yeah, but I am the same way about editing. I. I cannot, dude. I can't.

[B]

It's.

[A]

I feel like when you have a loyal audience, like we do, they know our quirks.

[B]

They'll notice it.

[A]

They know our personalities. They are like, they just know what we would do and how we would edit. And I also feel like no one is going to be as psycho as myself. And like, like, careful, right?

[B]

Cut down that 01 that seconds.

[A]

I'm like, I don't want to pause in me speaking and also looking at like, background stuff no one's gonna notice. Like, oh, maybe I had a nip slip. I don't know.

[B]

Oh, right.

[A]

You know.

[B]

Although sometimes I don't know people.

[A]

Yeah. Like, there. There's things are like in the background of like for a brand deal or something that you can't show yet.

[B]

Yeah. Oh, my God.

[A]

No one's gonna catch that.

[B]

Have you ever posted a nip slip on accident?

[A]

No. No. But I know a lot of people that have.

[B]

Yeah, I have. Twice.

[A]

You have. Wait, what? I didn't know this.

[B]

Yeah, I have twice.

[A]

Oh, she's like. Like, actually, it's ptsd.

[B]

Yeah, No, I really do. Like, I forget mirrors are there sometimes. You know what I mean? Like, I'm changing upwards, like, near tits out. Oh, my God.

[A]

Was it after you got a boob job?

[B]

Yeah. Thank you.

[A]

Period.

[B]

Thank God. Like, yeah, I'm like, what are you gonna. I bought them for a reason.

[A]

Yeah. No, you can't say that. They're ugly.

[B]

Yeah, right. I'm like, I know this is an only fan. So like, I guess, you know, we shouldn't have that on Tik Tok. But yeah, I've definitely had a nip slip.

[A]

And did people tell You. Or did you notice?

[B]

Yeah. The comments flood with it. So then you have to, like, go in. Re edit it real quick. And I'm like, how many people saw that?

[A]

Oh, my God.

[B]

But also, they look great, don't they?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Right.

[A]

One of my best friends just had that happen to her and she was doing, like a. I think she was, like, getting ready for something. I can't remember, but it was like, the bright light and she was showing a product, but she didn't realize, like, her chest was in it and she had just gotten her nipples pierced. And she was like. I'm honestly, like, not really upset.

[B]

No. Right.

[A]

Like, people saw that.

[B]

Whatever.

[A]

Yeah. She's like, I'm a mother.

[B]

It's not like you bending over and it's like, your ass.

[A]

Yeah. No, like, if you were like, my post breastfeeding boots, I would never post again. That would be for me.

[B]

Shut it down.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Different career.

[A]

They. Honestly, though, no one even seen my nipple because they were grazing against my ankles because they were so saggy that it didn't.

[B]

I do not believe that for a second.

[A]

Oh, I'll show you pictures.

[B]

Nurse.

[A]

Oh, yeah. Stevie was nursing on those till 14 months.

[B]

She was hanging from.

[A]

Dude, she was, like, 30 pounds. She would, like, get up and, like, have it in her mouth.

[B]

Like, no, no, way away. No. One time a Laffy Taffy. No, literally, I can't.

[A]

I. Dude, it's crazy. The, like, skin elasticity. I don't know how I don't have stretch marks. It's the.

[B]

No, the women's body is amazing.

[A]

What's it called? Rosehip oil. When you get pregnant, when you have kids. Rosehip oil head to toe, even postpartum. All right. You're very confident, like, in person and also online. Like, thank you. For an example, the BBL video that went viral. I think that exudes confidence when you can, like, make fun of yourself. Have you always been like that since you're a kid?

[B]

Yeah. Honestly, I think, like, confidence. Sometimes people think I'm so confident, but I think I use humor a lot.

[A]

Me too.

[B]

Yeah. And I also just come from, like, a really big family. I also think that helps. Like, we've always liked, like, like, joked around with each other, talk to each other, you know? Like, I have very thick skin. Yeah. And I come from a big family, so we've always talked to each other. I think that just gives you, like, thick skin.

[A]

Oh, yeah. Oh. When, like, my sister and I were horrible to each other.

[B]

Horrible.

[A]

Like, girls are.

[B]

Beat each other to death.

[A]

Oh, I Would straight kick her in the vag.

[B]

Oh, yeah, yeah. My sister, one time I wore her jeans to high school. She beat the out of me in the car. Then she decided she wasn't over it, so she literally. I had to wear my gym short shorts. She came into my classroom. I was like, take those off.

[A]

Oh, what a dude. That's, like, almost worse than a dress code outfit.

[B]

Oh, horrible. I literally had to wear, like, a cute top with, like, these gym shorts. I was like, yeah.

[A]

Oh. And that's, like, social suicide.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

When we would get dress coded at my school, they were so mean that they would give you highlighter colored, like, shorts to your knees.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

To make you look like you're like. I don't know, like, on the basketball team. But then it was all red, and it was like, red. Now, in high school, dress code.

[B]

No, you had specific dress code.

[A]

Shorts, 100 dress code attire.

[B]

That's like, trauma.

[A]

And there was a female cop. I'll never forget you. She worked. I hope you're on campus. And she was out to get any girl that had shorts that were not two inches past your fingertips. And she was like, hater. She was such a hater.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. I'll never forget.

[B]

It's funny, though, the people that, like, don't grow up with siblings. Like, I posted sister fights on Tik Tok before, and they're like, I. Like, this is insane.

[A]

So mean to each other. Yeah.

[B]

Like, some of you guys didn't share a room, and it shows.

[A]

I'll be honest with you. When my sister are five years apart, she's older than me. So, like, you have to think, when I'm 10, she's 15, like, she's going through puberty getting boobs, and she's, like.

[B]

So annoyed by you.

[A]

He boobs her and, like, hates me. All her friends come over and she's like, go to your room. I don't want. I don't want to see you. But anytime we get in a fight, I would always be like, oh, your tits hurt. And I was like, boom. And just straight punch her in the titties.

[B]

I know. Like savages.

[A]

And then I would run away to my room and lock it so she couldn't catch me. I would stay there, like, all night. My mom's like, avery, come out for dinner. I was like, no, Taylor's gonna beat the out of me.

[B]

No. I'm like, I can't even say that. Like, we'd be running around the house with, like, knives and, like, wooden spoons to beat the out of each other. Like. Yeah, that's just how it is.

[A]

Wait, how many siblings do you have?

[B]

I have five.

[A]

What?

[B]

My mom had six kids in eight years.

[A]

You're one of six.

[B]

I'm one of six. I'm fifth.

[A]

Dude, your mom's a g. She's like.

[B]

I WISH I had 10. I'm like, you don't even like us. Like, what do you mean? You know what I mean. I'm like, why? Why do you all of a sudden want 10?

[A]

Wait, that's actually insane.

[B]

Isn't that insane?

[A]

Is she okay, your mom?

[B]

She's actually not okay, but she's like the best woman in the world. She's a saint.

[A]

That's what I was gonna say. Like, I. My kids are almost three years apart and some days overwhelm me.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like adding.

[B]

Do they fight?

[A]

Oh, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. Like, Stevie's a biter. She'll bite Ziggy. Okay.

[B]

I like the defense mechanism.

[A]

Ziggy, usually, he seems like an angel. He kind of just descertains.

[B]

He like, just takes it. Like, I know he just takes it.

[A]

Or be totally honest. Scott laughing because he knows it's true.

[B]

No, I could already see that.

[A]

No, she's definitely gonna be the one, like, beating the shadow kids in the playground for beating. Always.

[B]

It's always this.

[A]

I know. It's a menace, dude. She weighs more than him. She's muscle. She's a beast.

[B]

She's the cutest. Yeah, little chunk I've ever.

[A]

And I've seen her like, on at the park. If kids are mean to Ziggy, she'll be like, don't talk to my brother like that.

[B]

I love that. Yeah, I love that.

[A]

Scott laughs because you don't get brother. Yeah, she's. Dude, she'll. She wants to rough house. Like, she sees David and Ziggy rough house, so she wants to join. She's rougher than Ziggy. She will just straight like cannonball on him on the couch. Like, full blown.

[B]

She's got that linebacker energy, dude.

[A]

It's crazy.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

I could see her joining the football team.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

But she puts on these little tutus and she's so big. Like, it's massive wedgie. And just like, she's so cute and so girly, but, like, she's funny.

[B]

She's got a big personality already.

[A]

I have to show you this video of her putting on lipstick.

[B]

She.

[A]

She's in the back of my car and she just has red lipstick all up to her nose. And she's like, all over her face. You're like, she knows she's fabulous.

[B]

Beautiful, sweetie.

[A]

That's what I love, though. Yeah. She's like, loves the beauty stuff, but also can hold her own.

[B]

Yeah. You know, that's probably like. Well, you said Ziggy's, like, not super hard, but, like, having a brother, you know? Like, I think maybe it, like, mellows you out.

[A]

It is cute, though, because before we close on our house, they're sharing a room at our rental through the summer because it has bunk beds. And so they were like, no, we want to have the bunk bed.

[B]

So.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And now they're, like, obsessed with sharing a room, and I never thought that would happen, so I kind of want to keep it going until they, like, let me, you know.

[B]

Right. They probably have a blast.

[A]

Well, at night, we have an issue with them staying up a little too late because they chit chat all night.

[B]

You have, like, the little thing. You hear them talking, and you're like, go the to bed.

[A]

No, dude, they'll come out, like, 50 times. Yeah. Ziggy will be like, mom, I brought you a stuffed animal. I'm like, thank you, baby. And then it's like, seven more stuffed animals. I'm like, okay, you have to go to bed.

[B]

Okay, I love you.

[A]

But, like, yeah, or, like, if. If they're frustrated and they're like, mom, Mom, Mom. I'm like, what do you need, honey? I love you. Like, oh, no, don't pull that.

[B]

Oh, my God, mom, watch this. They do, like, a weird headstand. You're like, oh, sick.

[A]

Like, oh, that's so true, Steve.

[B]

I know. Like, my nieces and nephews. I'm like, all right, don't show me again, though. Like, we got it.

[A]

Wait, you are really cute with your niece when you had her over.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

Wait. She's so cute.

[B]

She had the best time. York City, you know that I have, like, so many brands reach out. They're like. It's like Carter's. They're like, we want to send your niece stuff. This is hilarious.

[A]

Oh, the amount of PR packages my kids get is actually ridiculous.

[B]

I love it.

[A]

No, I'm like, I pay for my own health insurance at 16. Yeah. You don't need to be gifted Kosis makeup.

[B]

Yeah, I know. I get that for sure. You got to, like, humble them a little bit.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. How many nieces and nephews do you have?

[B]

I have five and one on the way. And we're heavy girls. We only have one boy.

[A]

No way. Are they all In Chicago still?

[B]

Yeah, except for ones in Indiana, but, like, same.

[A]

Wait, your niece that you brought here, that's. She's blonde, right?

[B]

Yeah, she's like light blonde or like light brown?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Kind of blondish.

[A]

How old is she?

[B]

She is going to be seven, so she's six right now, so she's the cutest thing in the world. So my sister got knocked up from like a one night stand.

[A]

No.

[B]

I've talked about this on the Internet. She doesn't care. Yeah. And like, somehow got pregnant. They, like, defied all odds. They stayed together, but.

[A]

Really?

[B]

Yeah, they were 24.

[A]

That's amazing.

[B]

Yeah. And I was living in Chicago at the time, so, like, I would watch her every Tuesday. Like, she needed a lot of help, you know what I mean? She was a NER nurse. She's still a nurse.

[A]

Oh. Period.

[B]

And he worked also. So, like, we just have such a great bond, you know? Like, she FaceTimes me three times a week.

[A]

Oh, I love.

[B]

It's so cool. And they could, like. I'm like, oh, you could like, have a conversation.

[A]

Oh. And I hope you realize that helps her mom more than anything because FaceTime babysitting is a real thing. Yeah, I'll give that kids the phone.

[B]

And sometimes I'm like, did you FaceTime me or did you my, you know, my sister just like, here, talk to Aunt Abby. Yeah, right.

[A]

What does your family think about your job? Job?

[B]

I mean, they think I am Kim Kardashian. Like, they literally think I'm a celebrity. Wait, I love that they, like, think I'm the most famous influencer. You know, I'm like, it's hilarious.

[A]

That's cute. Because they're supportive.

[B]

Yeah. I obviously was just in vogue with Kosis and they. I'm not kidding. Every single person in my family, like, I have like 50 plus cousins. They all bought like nine copies. Like, they're the most supportive family. And it's just. Yeah, it's so cute.

[A]

And you're very involved with the beauty community. You do a lot of stuff with them. Like, we were on our tarte brand trip. What's a beauty product right now you can't live without?

[B]

Ooh, that's a good one. Honestly, I have this new, like, hair perfume. I want to have you smell my head after this.

[A]

No, I want to.

[B]

Everybody asks me what I'm wearing.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

It's called, like, ny. I'm gonna have to tell you what it is you put on the screen. It is unbelievable. It's called wooden.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And it's in Like a red bottle. And it just smells so good. Like, I like a little masculine scent.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

And it's unbelievable. Either that or the salmon sperm mask meta cube.

[A]

Okay, hold on a second. This sperm all over my for you page.

[B]

Listen. I don't know how they get it. I don't know, you know, but I.

[A]

Mean, Jaclyn Hill talked about it. I saw Michaela talk about it. Is it like a serum?

[B]

So it's like that mask that you wear overnight.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

That, like, soaks in and then you peel it off. They do have a serum of it. They do, like, a whole line. Like, they have the toner. They have. I'm like, is there just like, sandwiches and all of this, or is it just like. I don't really know, you know? Yeah, but it's so good. And people are injecting it under their skin.

[A]

I have never heard of that.

[B]

It's so good.

[A]

So you think I should do the mask?

[B]

Yeah. Okay, do the mask. I'm gonna order it overnight.

[A]

I'm order. When we're done, you can tell me if it's. If it's good or not.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

What's your, like, ideal day here in New York?

[B]

Every day is different just because, like, sometimes it'll be like, a fitting for an event or like an event or, you know, shooting different content. But my ideal day, I would say a little different now that I have a baby. I know.

[A]

She's literally a mom.

[B]

Yeah. I'm a mother.

[A]

Mother.

[B]

Wake up, try to work out. And then after.

[A]

Is that your solid core that you're talking?

[B]

Yeah, I do, like, a mix of solid core and Pilates.

[A]

I need to try that.

[B]

I was telling Avery about solid core.

[A]

Yeah. She said, I'll have abs and four workouts. I said, maybe not after birthing children.

[B]

Maybe not after the Levaine cookies.

[A]

Oh, my God. I'm gonna have to try one of each flavor here. Thank you for that.

[B]

Yeah, no, that'll be so good. Good. But, yeah, I, you know, try to move my body a little bit. I love to get out. There's so many places to go to in New York, you know, so I love to get coffee from different places. Like, I'm still pretty new to New York.

[A]

Yeah. I was going to say we were talking about this at lunch, that there's so many new places and restaurants on every corner.

[B]

You can never hit them all.

[A]

I was going to say you could literally eat a new place three times a day. Yes.

[B]

You can live here for 100 years. And I even scratch the surface I feel like it's crazy and it's exciting. Like you could walk on the west side Highway. There's just so much to do, you.

[A]

Know, know New York because I'm obsessed with sex in the city now. New York just gives me, like, the vibes of I just want to sit at a bar and, like, have a cocktail.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

What's your go to cocktail?

[B]

Ooh. Honestly, I'm kind of like a basic. I would say, I love a French martini.

[A]

What is a French martini?

[B]

It's so good. It's like pineapple juice vodka. Not a French 75. A French martini. You should try it. Have you had a porn star martini?

[A]

Yes. Love.

[B]

Kind of similar to that. I would say love a Cosmo, but right now I'm really into a pickle martini. But, like, if I'm out at the bar, I'll get a cranberry vodka.

[A]

Where do you have a pickle martini, dude?

[B]

Chelsea living room. Is Chelsea living room. So good.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

You should try their pickle martini there. They have a caviar mozzarella stick. That's unreal.

[A]

Oh, God.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Jazzy.

[B]

All right, Add it to the itinerary.

[A]

Yeah. I'm like, we gotta go there.

[B]

Chelsea living room. It's so good, and it's like a vibe in there.

[A]

Oh, period.

[B]

Yeah.

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Okay. I'm like, so I can't wear sweats. Got it.

[B]

Well, it's dark, so maybe you could get away with it. I don't know.

[A]

I'll be like these. These are couture.

[B]

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[A]

Okay, so you said you do everything pretty much on your own. You're hiring for an assistant. Do you feel kind of burnt out?

[B]

No, not really. I think I love, like, challenges. I love not being in like the same routine always. I also have like a great management team that helps me with a lot of that PR team. So, like, I don't really feel that overwhelmed. And like I said, I'm hiring for an assistant, but I love that our job is like kind of different every day. You know, that it keeps it exciting for me.

[A]

I like. What I like most about what we do is you can just pick and choose what you choose to share that day. Like, one day I can do my makeup. One day I can do my hair. One day I can show my outfit. One day I can show what I made. My lunch. My kids for lunch.

[B]

Yeah, totally.

[A]

You know, morning vlog. There's so much you can do with it.

[B]

Right? But like, obviously there's some days when you're like, when I'm like PMSing, I'm like, I don't want to like even post on the Internet, but other than that, I'm pretty good.

[A]

Do you post every single day on Tik Tok? Yeah, I do too. I'm so psycho to take days.

[B]

I'm anal about it. Yeah. Like, if I don't post, I have like this sinking feeling.

[A]

Same.

[B]

I'm like, it's.

[A]

I'm like, my fear is over.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

No, I'm like, no.

[B]

Like, there goes the algorithm. They're never going to put me on the for you page again.

[A]

I'm like, not in therapy.

[B]

Relax.

[A]

You're not in therapy?

[B]

No.

[A]

You should get a therapist.

[B]

I've never, never done therapy. I think my mom made me do it once in high school.

[A]

It's always like, the mom makes you go to. Yeah, therapy is amazing. Like whether. No, I Want to do it struggling or not. I feel like it's so nice to just vent to a third party that's not judging you.

[B]

Yeah, right? Or like giving opinions like that know you. You know what I mean? Like.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

About people in your. In your life.

[A]

What do you think is something about you that people will be surprised about?

[B]

Oh, well, obviously. Well, I think a lot of people know this about me, but that I have five siblings. I think like the major thing right now is. Is that a vegetarian? I've been vegetarian half my life.

[A]

Wait, I did not know that.

[B]

No, I like say it randomly. I'm like, well, you guys know that I'm vegetarian. Everyone's like, nobody knew that. I'm like, oh, wow.

[A]

Okay. So what was your reason?

[B]

Honestly? I just, I'm a softy. Like I feel bad for the animals. Like my mom said she'd be like, a burger is a cow and I'd be like. Like I'd like die, you know?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And when I was like 14 or 15, she became supportive of it. Like I came home one time and she had like our whole dining room table filled with stuff. Oh, I know.

[A]

Wait, I love your mom.

[B]

No, she's the cutest.

[A]

What's her name?

[B]

Sherry.

[A]

Hey, Sher Cherry. We love you, Sherry. You're amazing. I don't even know how you raise so many kids so close together. You're my hero.

[B]

Oh, isn't that crazy?

[A]

Oh my God. Like a champ. A true champ.

[B]

Yeah. She was a stay at home mom.

[A]

What did your dad do?

[B]

He. What the does he do? I don't know.

[A]

You know what?

[B]

Oh, he works for like a health care thing.

[A]

Okay. Period. We love.

[B]

He's in New Mexico. Yeah. He lives like, it's basically like AI, like medical AI, like an in home thing that like will help you like take your prescriptions and whatever it's called, like ecg.

[A]

So Advanced medical technology.

[B]

Yeah. When I was growing up, he was a stock broker.

[A]

Oh, really?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

In Chicago.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Interesting. David Day trade. Sometimes. And it freaks me out.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, don't lose all our money.

[B]

I know. I started doing that.

[A]

You did?

[B]

I don't do it myself.

[A]

No. It's great to invest and like have someone to work for you. That's one thing. I'm like, I will hire the financial people.

[B]

I know. That's why the market's plummeting. I'm like, oh, I get it now. Like, people are like stressed cuz I'm stressed.

[A]

Yeah. You know, like cuz my money's in there too.

[B]

Yeah. Right.

[A]

Where do you feel most at peace right now, mentally, emotional or physically?

[B]

Oh, that's a good one. Honestly, I would say all of it. I just moved into, like, my dream apartment. I feel like I'm finally in a great spot. Career wise. Relationships wise. I mean, I have no relationships. I literally am not dating anyone.

[A]

Well, friends.

[B]

Yeah, exactly. I'm, like, moving my. But I was never consistent with working out, so I think I'm just in a good, like, headspace. I really think this time of being single has been so beneficial for my life. I think it was meant to happen to me, even though, like, when it did happen, I thought my life was over.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I think as women, like, we have this timeline, there's societal standards, and I was like, oh, my God, like, I wanted to be, like, married by 29, have my kids by 30, and then that just all like, plummeted. Like, I was freaking out, you know?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And in reality, it's like the best thing that ever could, like, could have ever happened to me.

[A]

You seem like, knowing you personally, you seem. Seems so, like, content of where you are. Yeah. And it also reflects content, too.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, I feel like people can kind of sense when you're grounded mentally and, like, your life is going well and you feel confident in yourself. That kind of reflects in your content.

[B]

Yeah, totally. And I think that there's like, a negative stigma. Like, I've never really talked about my breakup event, but I think it's hard that there are those, like, societal pressures. But it's like, you really, really have to think of it as, like, a beautiful thing when you're single. Like, it's just time for yourself. You're not going to be there forever, you know, like, everyone eventually finds someone.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So it took me a minute, but I did, like, turn it into a It's me time, you know?

[A]

How long were you guys together?

[B]

Four and a half years.

[A]

Yeah. See, and you were. How old were you when you were dating him?

[B]

So I met him when I was 22 and. Or 23. And I mean, listen, we, like, broke up, but it never, never, like, it's never like, completely done.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

But, yeah, that was hard. Like, we lived together, obviously, so moving out was hard. You just think your life is over.

[A]

Well, and I was gonna say, like, that's such a huge time in a woman's life is like, yeah. Early mid and almost into late 20s.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Where you're like, I'm committing the majority of my 20s to you. And, like, committing to you. Like, that's Right.

[B]

So you almost feel, like, bitter.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It's like you learn something from every relationship, you know? And. Yeah, I learned a lot from it. No regrets, Honestly, like, don't really have anything negative to say about him. And my life, like, flourished after it. I truly believe everything happens for a reason.

[A]

Absolutely. And as one door closes, multiple will.

[B]

Open a thousand percent.

[A]

Tell me about your apartment. Oh, this is so cute.

[B]

It's so cute.

[A]

I will say I love. I'm like, obviously, I love having a family. Obviously. But, like, there's nothing that would be more fun as a girl to have, like, a cute little apartment, like, decorating it however you want it.

[B]

Right. No. Now I'm like, I fear I'll never live with a man, ever.

[A]

You could have everything white because you don't have kids.

[B]

Like, yes. And, like, I have a small dog. Like, she's a lady, so. Yeah, she's fine.

[A]

She's a lady.

[B]

She's a little lady. No, it's so fun. It's. You make it like your own little sanctuary, you know? That's why I also feel really good. Like, mentally, physically, like, everything's where I want it. Like, my bills are paid, you know? Like, it's just, like, a great feeling. And I love the apartment. It's, like, truly a dream.

[A]

I'm glad. And you. You. Are you close to, like, walk everywhere? Pretty much everywhere.

[B]

Like, I'm like, if I ever Uber eats, which I do, I'm, like, slapping myself in the face. I'm like, you're lazy.

[A]

You're a lazy piece of. Hey, it's hard.

[B]

It's hard sometimes. You're in your PJs, you did your skincare, like, New York. I don't want to, like, get out.

[A]

You're like, no one wants to see me.

[B]

Nobody wants to see me. I don't want to see anyone.

[A]

Not with my silk bonnet.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. My sock curls.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. See, you can slay those.

[B]

No.

[A]

Do you know that I tried your method once?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And my hair was too short.

[B]

Short. Oh, damn.

[A]

I need to try it, because that was, like, when my hair was really short.

[B]

Yeah, I know. Your hair's growing a lot.

[A]

I know. It's my Mary Ruth vitamin.

[B]

Everyone says that.

[A]

Dude. Can I tell you my honest. My honest thing about that? And I'll say this. I don't care. I. My best friend had been taking it forever, and she has, like, ringlet curl hair. Like, just. It's like, when you straighten it, it's like, another six inches long. Like, that's how Curly. Her hair is. And I was like, you know how hard it is to grow curly hair? Because it takes forever. It went from like, her collarbone to past her boob in like half a year. And I was like, what are you doing? And she was like, dude, it's this company, Mary Ruth's.

[B]

Dang.

[A]

And I was like, okay. So I bought it on Amazon with my own money. I drink a whole bottle and I'm talking on my Instagram stories. I was like, I just bought a second bottle. Like, not sponsored anything. I was like, you guys have to try it. It's insane how fast my hair has grown. And my team text me. They're like, you dumbass. Like, they gave you an offer last year and you turned it down because you've never tried the products. Because I'm like a big if I'm not actually a user of it and like, love it, I will not promote it.

[B]

Yeah. And I've also had where like, I've had a product and like, I'll have to say, like, when we can't.

[A]

Totally. And honestly, like, I feel lucky to be in that position where I can't turn down, like, money or ads because I. I just want to be truthful.

[B]

Right. That's more important at the end of the day, truthfully, if you want to, like, continue and like, build a community.

[A]

Totally. And so. So then I ended up working with them like six months later because I was like, no, I'm. I was an actual, like, subscribing customer on Amazon.

[B]

But then that's the best because then when you do a video for them, it's like the most organic truth for sure. Yeah.

[A]

But it's like a little 30ml liquid shot, like peach mango. It's literally amazing.

[B]

Yeah. I've been doing the neutrophil, which. Dude, my hair's grown so good. So much. I will say the four pills a lot as a day.

[A]

And why are they horse pills?

[B]

What's going on? Like, why can't they figure out how to get that into two?

[A]

Huge. And four of them's crazy.

[B]

It's crazy. Like, sometimes I'm like. It's like stuck in my throat. Holy. I do this every day. I know, but I can't take a shot still. Like, it makes no sense.

[A]

Okay. Really?

[B]

And I do all four pills at once. Cuz I'd rather just get it over.

[A]

Do you hear that, boys?

[B]

Your face. I was just gonna say that face.

[A]

All four ones. Do you remember your first impression of me when you met me?

[B]

Yeah, I was like, this is the hottest mom I've ever seen in my that's crazy life. No, granted, we were in Bora Bora, like, running around in bikinis the whole.

[A]

Time and drunk, probably.

[B]

Yeah. And also, like, obviously I followed you before then. Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And I love when I meet people and I'm like, you're exactly how you are on the Internet.

[A]

Oh, yay. That makes me happy.

[B]

Yeah, like, completely the same.

[A]

Yeah, that's how you are.

[B]

But I was like, she's hotter. Hotter.

[A]

That's crazy.

[B]

Remember my best friend that I brought there? She literally still talks about you to this day.

[A]

Dude.

[B]

She'll like, step me, tell me. She's like, oh, my God, look at Avery's body. So hot. I'm like, we literally have a girl crush on you.

[A]

No, I. Your friend. What's her name? Samantha. She was so fun.

[B]

Yeah, she's so fun. Oh, my God. She's like the life of the party.

[A]

And you were like, living your best, best post breakup life. And you guys, dude, new tits. You guys had a fresh tan. You were living the life for you. That was like the perfect time for you to go.

[B]

Yeah. Right? It's like the universe knew.

[A]

Yeah. Okay. What's something on brand trips that people don't see online?

[B]

O, that's a good one. Honestly, I will say to my family, like, oh, man, I'm so exhausted. And they're like, shut the up. Like, you've been on. Like, I'm like, you don't see that? It's actually pretty tolling. Like, I don't want this to come off in like a negative way, but, like, you have a full ass itinerary from like 7am sometimes to like 2am and you're constantly going in between. You have to be filming content posting multiple times a day. Like, I think people think sometimes it's more of a vacation, which some. Some are. Some are a little bit more like, chill and relaxed.

[A]

Yeah, some will have like.

[B]

But some, I go home and I'm like, yeah. Like, I feel like I'm like five years older.

[A]

Some will have, like, no posting requirements. Yeah, that's where I can. You can like, actually chill and relax. But the other thing too, I think people don't realize is, is the required dress code. So you're spending, like all here.

[B]

Here's like, how much you spent.

[A]

Yeah, you're getting a totally free luxury vacation. I've never complained about that. But, like, you're expected, obviously, to look a certain way, dress a certain way.

[B]

Theme every night.

[A]

Theme every night. And then there's like seven activities in between that you go to. But then you have to, like, get out your content and whatever. But I think it's so funny because I told myself the whole year, like, I'm not going on brand trips. I've been turning them all down.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I. I was just exhausted.

[B]

Exhausted. I know. And like, it's obviously such a blessing. Like every time I'm on a brip, I'm like, what is? This is insane.

[A]

I'll never get used to it.

[B]

Yes. Like, my first, I think literally, like one of my first ones was the tart trip.

[A]

That's crazy.

[B]

Talk about starting with a bang. Like, and there was no posting requirements for that. Like, so naturally I was posting like 15 times a day. But you know, like, when they don't.

[A]

Get requirements more, I think I'm gonna do the most.

[B]

Right, right. Because like, if you have to like, like do requirements, then it's like harder. I know. You slow down a little bit.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But yeah, I also think that people are like, oh. Like, they pretend to get along or whatever. Like, you actually really build bonds on these trips. Not with everyone, but like. Yeah, a lot of these girls, you know, like, I still text some of these girls on the side. They're interested in my life. Like, you really do create, like great friendships from.

[A]

Yeah. And I also think showing face to the brand, it's very important, especially when you have a relationship with them business wise, to be able to connect on that level.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Because that's also huge. What's it like being a young single girl in New York dating?

[B]

Okay. Honestly, I keep dating fun. I never go in with expectations.

[A]

Do you get nervous? Like, that would make.

[B]

I Like, I was already like my first time, but then I just like, I'm in control. You know what I mean? Yeah. Like, you're lucky to be taking me on a date is how I feel now. I'll have like a shot before maybe a beta blocker and then I'm good. But the thing about New York is, I mean, men are like 36, 37. Like, I don't know what I want, you know, like, that's just like the culture here. And it's like, you have 30 fucking men.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Your hair's gone.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know, literally. So, like, it's fun, but it's. I don't know, like, I don't know when I'll ever actually, like, find someone here. I don't even know if I will find someone here. Especially when you talk to other women in New York. Like, it's a struggle.

[A]

Also, I feel like everyone here's a finance bro or a wannabe influencer, and that's.

[B]

And I would never date a guy on the Internet. Never.

[A]

Oh, the second they OTDs on their own, I'm out.

[B]

And I can't.

[A]

Oh, my God. I act like I'm like, single right now.

[B]

Like, why do you own a phone?

[A]

Literally 12 years.

[B]

Why do you own a phone?

[A]

Oh, the fact that my husband doesn't have social media. Greatest thing ever, right?

[B]

That's how it should be. Is how I feel.

[A]

It's. It's the best. But like, like with the Ken Yurich thing, when, like, she went on the hinge day and then the guy started making videos and then started posting ootds, I said, sir.

[B]

No, he did.

[A]

He did.

[B]

No. I'm so scared.

[A]

I know. Like, like that's actually concerning.

[B]

Like, literally, if I meet you and you're cute, I'll like, first thing I ask you is like, are you on social media? No. Okay, let's go on a date.

[A]

Wait, is that really your thing?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

You'll ask that?

[B]

Like, I just met a guy in Central park. And like, he said it first. Like, he was like, I don't have social media. And like, me and my girlfriend loved each other. She goes, oh, she loves that. You know? And I was like, I do love that. Like, I just wait, period.

[A]

Was he hot?

[B]

Yeah, he was cute.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

He was cute, but he had thong sandals on.

[A]

Oh.

[B]

Oh, no, no. I'm like, literally, we need to ban.

[A]

Them in central chart.

[B]

No, like, the dogs, like, wait, dude, I just posted a tick tock about this. Like, those should not be seen in public.

[A]

Okay. We were just talking to Kit Keenan.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And she was like, flip flops, unless you're going to and from a nail appointment for a pedicure, are banned from New York City.

[B]

No, she's gonna die.

[A]

She was like, that's so close to the dirty ass ground.

[B]

No, I know. And like, nobody needs to see some straight men's toes. Like, none of you guys keep up with them.

[A]

And I know I had a little toe fro with the hair.

[B]

Yeah, I know, know, I know. And like, something about being in between the toes. I like, literally get heart paltations. Whatever, what's it called?

[A]

Yeah, it's literally a thong in his toes. It's sick.

[B]

So you can't have social media and you can't wear thong sandals.

[A]

Okay. All hot men that make above $3 million a year don't wear thong sandals. Don't have a receding hairline and doesn't have social media. Call Abby.

[B]

Yeah, I'm here.

[A]

Last thing I want to ask, because it's very you and who you are.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

No, no, it's not bad. But how do you stay grounded in this industry? Living in New York City where you got all these events, mean, these people.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

Have a massive following.

[B]

Honestly, my family, I really think my family, like, sometimes I'll come home and like, my cousins, like, we'll talk in the best way, you know?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But yeah, I think my family keeps me super grounded and also just like, where I come from and the person that my. My parents made me.

[A]

Yeah. And that's a testament to your family and your parents too. So good job, fam. But yeah, I also think when you have the same people in your life before you, you became like a public figure. That's something that's. I like, the people in my life have been the same people for pretty much ever.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And although obviously we, like, meet people in this industry and like, make connections, but you need people to remind you, like, where the you came from, like, how lucky you are. Because every day I'm like, and we.

[B]

Both came from financial struggles.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

That doesn't turn off. That's always in your mind, dude.

[A]

In my head, every day I'm like, I could be poor tomorrow.

[B]

Like, it scares. It's scary.

[A]

It's actually terrifying. If. If my views aren't like skyrocketing, I'll tell Scott, like, I don't know if I could pay your salary. It's like, calm the down.

[B]

I have like, jokes where I like, text my friends. I'm like, I gotta get a new job. Like, views are low.

[A]

My old nurse manager and I are good friends. And every once in a while I'll be like, so that one day a week position is also open. She's like, yes, dumbass, but you're fine.

[B]

Like, oh my God, it's so funny.

[A]

I know.

[B]

It's like, it keeps you on your toes, which I think is a good thing. And it also keeps you humble also.

[A]

That's what I'm saying. Like, I. I'll never apologize for who I am because of where I came from, but also.

[B]

And I'll also never apologize for making money. Like, I think there was so much to be said about my apartment. And it's like, we don't say anything when These men sign 40 million dollar contracts in the NFL.

[A]

Isn't it crazy?

[B]

No, it's like, actually, like, when are we gonna Stop with the.

[A]

Oh, the way that people can't even believe that I am the only one that. That makes money in my family. Like no one can believe, right? The only income. And I'm like, yeah, but so funny. When women on the Internet do a haul of their luxury item from a man. From a man.

[B]

Yeah. And it's.

[A]

And like. And that's amazing. Like, I am so pro. If you are able to stay home with your kids, if you have the ability to be a stay at home wife, do it.

[B]

Like, absolutely.

[A]

That'd be awesome.

[B]

Yeah, Like I wanted to do that. Yeah.

[A]

Like be a stay at home wife. But when like we ourselves buy something and show it. Like, I don't do unboxings or anything anymore. But like, oh, and someone sees a new bag on my shoulder.

[B]

Older.

[A]

Oh.

[B]

Or even like PR sometimes now I like get nervous and I'm like, wait, what? Oh, why do I care?

[A]

Girl, I can't even get a smoothie of erewhon without getting nasty comments. It's crazy. But the men are like applauded.

[B]

No, it's great. Like, I really don't get it. I'm like, oh, so you're like mad at a woman for making money and becoming like financially stable. I'm single by myself. You know, I mean, like, that should be inspiring.

[A]

You should be so proud of yourself. Right? Like, you're in your dream.

[B]

You're supporting a family. That should be incredible. Like, look how far women have come.

[A]

Yeah. But look at you too. Like, you're living your best life in New York City. You have your dream apartment. Yeah. Your baby lady.

[B]

Yep. I got my dog.

[A]

I'm happy for you. You seem really happy. Thanks. And glowy. Go girls. Go girls. Anytime you're in California, let me know.

[B]

I will.

[A]

And we'll meet up.

[B]

You get an Air1 smoothie and we can let everyone talk.

[A]

Air1 smoothie. And I'll cook you a home cooked meal and you can hang out.

[B]

I love that. And I need Stevie to like, tackle me.

[A]

Oh, she'll do your makeup.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh yeah. She would love you. Thank you for being here. I really appreciate it.

[B]

Thank you so much.

[A]

Love you so much.

[B]

The best time in New York.

[A]

Thank you. Where can everyone find you?

[B]

I'm mainly on TikTok but also on Instagram and I have the same handle for both. Abby Baffo.

[A]

A B B Y B A F F O E. Is that right?

[B]

Yep.

[A]

Period. Yep. I'm educated.

[B]

She's educated.

[A]

Okay, Cheers guys.

[B]

We're out.

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