
Avery finally sits down with content creator and jewelry founder Victoria Paris. What starts as two internet girlies comparing lives quickly turns into a real convo about identity, queerness, boundaries, and growing up online.
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Victoria
Hi.
Avery Woods
Thanks for being here.
Victoria
Thanks for having me. This is long awaited.
Avery Woods
I know we were supposed to do this like a year ago, I think, and then our schedules just didn't line up and I live here so now we're here, we're neighbors. Thanks for being on. I'm so happy to talk to you. We kind of chatted before this that we have such like a weird crossover. I got the same car as you, then I got the same watch as you and we have a lot of the same audience but we couldn't live like a more polar opposite life.
Victoria
I know. I was like thinking about it before bed last night and I was like if you were to ask me like when I'm like 15, like, would I end up like this girl or this girl? I would say I'd end up like you. Like, I could see myself totally, like, married with kids, like, you know, doing the whole thing, and I'm like this. I don't know, I just could have seen myself becoming a lot like you.
Avery Woods
But you're your own person and you're thriving and I love watching it. I didn't follow you until you lived here in la. So I really want to, like, deep dive about your life and get to know you and how you got here, because I don't know that story. What was growing up for you? Like, how did you get to New York? How did you come to la? Yeah, walk me through it.
Victoria
I grew up in New Jersey originally. So I was in New Jersey from like 0 to 10, and then North Carolina from 10 to 18. So that was interesting. Totally different. I always, like, my. My mom was born and raised in the city. My parents met living in the city. Like, my mom grew up in, like, the Bronx, Queens, like, Puerto Rican baddie. Like, did her whole thing, like, she loved it there. And then my dad met. They both met interviewing for the same job. And so they always raised us. You're gonna go to the city, like, one day when, like, you become, like, successful or you graduate college, you're gonna move to New York. And I wanted to go to New York for school straight out of high school. And my parents were like, no, that's not a place that you go to for college. Like, go have a traditional, like, four year university. So I went to Indiana University for a year. And I hated it. I got so depressed. Like, I want. I thought I wanted to be in a sorority. I got dropped from, like, every house. Yeah. And so I decided to transfer to school in New York. And that is really what started my New York experience. Like, I was living in New York for like three years before or four years before I started making videos.
Avery Woods
Where did you go to school in New York?
Victoria
The new school. Do you know, like, Parsons?
Avery Woods
Yeah.
Victoria
Yeah.
Avery Woods
Oh. I grew up watching every episode of Project Runway my entire life.
Victoria
Yep.
Avery Woods
My dad got me like a teal sewing machine and I would sew random swatches together while I watched Tim Gunn. Like, that's how I was raised.
Victoria
You've been an ally.
Avery Woods
I've been an ally for a long time. And so I always told myself, I was like, I'm gonna live in New York one day and shop at Parsons.
Victoria
And.
Avery Woods
Yeah, I just, it never, it never worked out for me. But I. I see Old videos. And like every time someone comes on the podcast, I always kind of do my research or look back at old videos. And I found so many videos of you, like on your balcony or showing what you're wearing. Is that how you started making content?
Victoria
So I started making content in the Pandemic. So I was living in New York, like in my apartment. I was in my senior year of school and like, we weren't allowed to go back to school. School. The. I was working for a fintech startup and that's what I was going to do after college. And then the startup went under because of the pandemic and I had nothing going on. So I was like, I'm broke, I have no prospects. I'm like, but I did have a popping depop. And I was like, oh, Deep hop had gotten really oversaturated at the point. And I was like, how do I get more people to my depop? And I'm like, what if I made tick tocks? So I started making tick tocks and they just took off. I got like a million followers in six months. And my first brand deal paid off my student loans. And I was like, I don't think I want to do depop. Like, yeah.
Avery Woods
Is that when you were like, okay, this could be my job for sure.
Victoria
Like, as soon as I got my first deal, I was like, whoa, did.
Avery Woods
You study fashion design?
Victoria
So I was actually in. So there's the new school's the college, and then persons is the fashion program that everybody knows. But I was in Lang and I was studying like New York City history.
Avery Woods
Oh, that's cool. So you went a completely different route.
Victoria
Yeah, yeah.
Avery Woods
And you graduated.
Victoria
Yeah.
Avery Woods
I feel like so many of us in social media studied something far different.
Victoria
Yeah.
Avery Woods
Than anything to do with marketing. Communications, for sure.
Victoria
I mean like, there's no like one career or one major that's going to set you up for this. It's more of like a self start kind of thing.
Avery Woods
I feel like. No, I also feel like it's completely changed the future when it comes to the expectation of education. Like, I was raised very. You graduate high school, you go to college, you graduate from college, and then you work like a normal corporate job. Whereas nowadays you don't necessarily need to do that if you want to be in this type of industry, which is very unique.
Victoria
Yeah. I mean, even my brother, like, my brother was like the golden child, like valedictorian, went to Duke, like got the private equity job, investment banking job, and now he's like, I think I want to make videos. And I'm like, you. You could have been doing that.
Avery Woods
Like, I'm obsessed with him. Oh, my God, he's so cute and nerdy. Does he have a girlfriend?
Victoria
No. We need to get him a girlfriend, like, bad.
Avery Woods
The way that we could get him such a Patty with our connections. If you guys. What's his name?
Victoria
Jonathan.
Avery Woods
Jonathan. If you guys are looking for a king to take care of you. Do you hear that? Do you hear all those credentials?
Victoria
Wait, this is. This is how we're gonna find him.
Avery Woods
Girl.
Victoria
Okay, okay. I'm locked in. And I will check if you've tried to DM me before, if you're an op, before he goes on a date with any girl. I find her Instagram, I find her TikTok. And I'm like, let me look.
Avery Woods
Secret hater.
Victoria
No, I'm. I'm a vetter. Like, I don't. I won't. There won't be an op in my.
Avery Woods
Circle, like, to check and see if they've been a secret. Oh, to you?
Victoria
Yeah. Or like, a secret fan, I feel like is more likely, like.
Avery Woods
Yeah. And then they're trying to get, like, scoop, and we don't need that.
Victoria
Well, yeah, I just want somebody who's, like, down for my brother. Not that I think that I'm, like, that famous or whatever, but I'm like, I just want somebody, like, really obsessed with my brother, and that's it.
Avery Woods
He's really sweet, and you can tell he's so awkward and nerdy, which are, like, my favorite type of people.
Victoria
Yeah, we're like, polar opposites, for sure.
Avery Woods
You really are. But you. You can tell you cancel each other out. And as much as he pretends like he's annoyed with you, you can tell how much he loves you, which is really cute.
Victoria
I love him. He's so cute.
Avery Woods
Does he live here?
Victoria
Yeah, he just moved here.
Avery Woods
Oh, so he's, like, in his LA era?
Victoria
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because he was living in New York for, like, seven years, and I did, like, 5ish years in New York, and then we both came out here, so it's great. It's, like, nice to have family out here. Yeah.
Avery Woods
Well, your parents are obviously. Are they in Jersey still?
Victoria
No, they're North Carolina.
Avery Woods
Oh, okay. So what made you make the leap from New York to la?
Victoria
So me and my girlfriend Nico had started dating long distance, and she would come to New York and I would go to la, and I was like, dang, it's really nice here, like, for the same price as rent in New York. I could get a house in la. Like, I just was like, I miss having a car, I miss having a yard. Like, I miss having that privacy of that. And so I was like, it's a no brainer. And I had her, you know.
Avery Woods
Yeah. And you guys, did you date before and then like, kind of took a break and then you got back together?
Victoria
Maybe. You know, we don't like to talk about it. We just consolidated all together. But yeah, we dated for like a year and then we took some time apart. Then we've been back together for like two years, almost two years now.
Avery Woods
Sometimes distance just makes the heart grow fonder. There's nothing wrong with that.
Victoria
I mean, we always talk to our friends. Our friends are like, how did you do it? Like, how'd you find your way back to each other? Because, you know, everybody like breaks up with their partner and they're like, I need to get back with them. And like, we weren't expecting it at all. Like, we went, like, no contact. We went about our lives, had no plans to like get back together and it just happened.
Avery Woods
Well, and you kind of grew probably as individuals more and then so much.
Victoria
Yeah, yeah, we needed that time.
Avery Woods
Going back to where you went to school, what you studied. What did you imagine your life to be like? What did you think your future?
Victoria
I thought I was gonna get married to have kids. Like, I thought I was gonna be a stay at home mom. Like, I really was. Like, you know, growing up in, in North Carolina or whatever, my parents are like, you take care of yourself. You look good. Like, you need to find somebody who's gonna take care of you. Like, that's what I thought my life was gonna be like. I didn't have like many like self aspirations. I was a nanny, so like my longest job was like, nanny. And I love kids. Like, absolutely adore kids. It's the thing that I miss the most. But like, I do not feel any urge right now. Like, I want, like to like, live my life and travel. But yeah, it was definitely something I thought I wanted for a really long time.
Avery Woods
You should. But if you ever need to, like, itch that baby fever, I'll drop my kids off.
Victoria
I would know. I'll pull up. Like, I'll pull up.
Avery Woods
Stevie would love you.
Victoria
You know how like Adam Sandler has like a nanny, but it's like another famous person. Like, I'm like, that could be us.
Avery Woods
I love him and I dress like him pretty much every day.
Victoria
Same the shorts.
Avery Woods
Yeah. So you came to la. How long have you Been here, I.
Victoria
Think, like, three years now. I'm not sure. Like, it's all a blur. Like.
Avery Woods
And you love it still?
Victoria
I love it. I love it here. Like, yeah, I don't. Like, the. The only time I could see myself leaving is if we go for something more remote, like a Wyoming, Montana, like that kind of. I just. Because I, like, watch Yellowstone and I'm convinced, like, I need to live on a ranch. But no, I love it here.
Avery Woods
Yeah. In my, like, fantasy life, I'm wearing like, the tight bell bottom jeans, like a big ass belt buckle.
Victoria
Yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure. Like the one of the wives, the one who, like, cut her hair short in the later seasons. I'm like, oh, my God. Inspo.
Avery Woods
Oh, my God. No, but your hair, like, no one pulls it off.
Victoria
Like, you. How did your extensions blend so well? Like, I have questions like, what are you talking about?
Avery Woods
This is literally all natural. It's crazy, right?
Victoria
Right? You took some time off. You came back inches.
Avery Woods
Yeah. No, it's Eric von Trainor.
Victoria
I feel like, like, you, like, have, like, not to. Not to flip the script on you and everything, but, like, you've had to, like, not take people along for every little ride of your life to, like, have some sanity. And, like, I. I want to know everything. Like, I want, like the. The hair attorney. I want to know the skin journey. I want to know the house journey. Like, I'm like, itching. I have questions.
Avery Woods
Yeah, I know. I all of a sudden, like, went real private on everyone. And everyone. I mean, it's really annoyed with me. They're like, I'll post a vlog. And like, I missed you. I'm like, well, I haven't really gone anywhere. I just kind of set boundaries.
Victoria
For sure. For sure.
Avery Woods
But I also think it's interesting how when you provide for yourself or your life or your family on social media, you get into a routine where you're just so used to sharing.
Victoria
Yeah.
Avery Woods
And I got to a point where I was like, wow, what a great thing that I can still provide for my family and have so much more privacy.
Victoria
For sure. I mean, that's what happened to me after the robbery was I was. Or burglary. I was just kind of like, whoa, this changed the way I approached everything. Like, it was more so. Like, I started thinking about Nico, like, my partner. And I was like, I go out all the time and I leave her in the house. And like, God forbid something happens to her while I'm gone because of the way I'm acting or the way I'm posting or the way I'm not caring. And it made me like reshift things. Like, I couldn't even imagine having kids. Or like, like, yeah, like that, that aspect, it would change everything.
Avery Woods
Yeah. And you were so open about what happened. Because I have so many friends in this industry that have gone through the same thing and none of them post about it. They don't talk about like all me.
Victoria
They're embarrassed.
Avery Woods
They're like, oh yeah, I was burglarized twice this last year. And I'm like. And they're just continuing on with life. Like nothing.
Victoria
So many people DM me being like, was it the same guy? And I'm like, babe, that's a totally different guy and you should go to the police. Like that, like, that we do not. Like, it's not just one dude. Like, you are like, that's horrible.
Avery Woods
When. So for those that don't know, kind of walk me through what happened and also how you realize that you were burglarized.
Victoria
I had a house in Silver Lake and it was really great. I just renewed my lease so I was like month to month and I really loved it. Had no problems the first year. Like, of course, like a neighbor had shown up and like little innocuous things and I was like very much posting like every single detail of my life. Like, as I'm sure you feel like I was posting dates I was leaving or trips or how long they were going to be and where I was going to be. And I was very excited about it and not thinking about the consequences of that. So I had really teaser like, hey, another Euro summer is coming. And I had started my Euro summer and I was like a few weeks into it and my landlord texted me like, hey, the gardeners were in the backyard and they saw that your back window was busted. And I'm going over there right now to check it out. Oh, and he like headed over there and he's like, yeah, somebody broke in. I don't know what they took, but I had cameras. I have like a crazy camera system. I had also made videos like, of the camera system being installed. And so I immediately like pull up the cameras. And this guy knew where the cameras were. Like, he had seen the video, he had known the house, he had known knew where he was going. And I saw the clips of him basically like getting the house casing it. He took apart one of the back windows. Like a back window was like a shutter style window. It wasn't like a smash because I had like, I had glass Break sensors. So, like, if the glass broke, it would have gone off. But because he, like, disassembled a window and then crawled in, he stole, like, all my purses, all my jewelry, everything. And so they boarded up the window. They called the police. We issued the police report. And I was like, okay, I can live with this. Like, I can come home and I can, like, salvage this and, like, get my life back in order. And then I spoke to a friend who was also an influencer, who I know had just been through a brutal robbery, and hers was really brutal. Do you know Zenya? Yeah, yeah. She, like, posted about hers in Paris and like, they like, held her assistant hostage. And I was like, okay, it wasn't that deep. Like, they didn't do that.
Avery Woods
It's giving Kardashian.
Victoria
But I texted her and I was like, hey, like, this just happened. She goes, be really careful, because they come back. And I was like, he's not coming back. And I checked my camera. Sure enough, the next day he came back and he saw the window boarded up. And I was like, I am getting the out of there. I called Roway Movers and I said, hell. And I called my housekeeper, Rosario, and I was like, we need to pack up the house now. Rosario was there the next day. Roadway Movers was there the following day. And I was out of that. That house. Cuz thank God it was month to month. Like, thank God. That's why I, like, I'm also so scared to buy a house because I'm like, having to be stay there if something happens. Like, God forbid, like, I could never. I couldn't deal with it. Like the, like the PTSD even. I wasn't even there. But like, sleeping after that, I'd be like, somebody's here. Somebody's in the house.
Avery Woods
No, that would scare the out of me. Yeah, we experienced a lot of that in Arizona. And it's crazy because people knew David was a cop. So obviously he has his duty. Weapons in the house, obviously locked up, away from the kids. But we lived in a gated community. But it didn't matter. People were following in landscapers or house cleaners. And I would be home, mind you, he would work 4, 10 hour shifts a week. And then when he was working, I was obviously home alone with the kids. And Scott can attest, like, I would get a knock on my door at least once a week from fans. They would, like, blow kisses into my ring, doorbell, camera, leave me notes, send me jewelry. It was insane.
Victoria
Yeah, but you have to think it's your Demographic. Like, they think they're innocuous. Like, they don't think that they're the type to be marked as a stalker. Like, a lot of these people never walked into spaces and had everybody look at them, suspecting that they're gonna commit a crime.
Avery Woods
Yeah.
Victoria
Like, a lot of people that, like, don't look like us operate throughout the world very differently because they're scared of, like, other people calling the cops on them or other people perceiving them doing something wrong. And because when your audience looks like us, they feel like they can do anything with no repercussions because they've never had a cop called on them. They don't worry about somebody pulling a gun. Like, they're gonna come right up to their. Your house. They're not breaking and entering.
Avery Woods
Yeah, it's so true. I just remember feeling so uneasy. And it's also because, obviously, we bought our house in 2019, far before my life took off on social media. So, like, we didn't know we didn't have to put our house in anonymous trust or, like, get our Google image offline or MLS listing taken down. People had also called the builder of our house, got the layout of our home, put it on Reddit, and said, ziggy's room is here. Stevie's room is here. You can access their windows from the outside of the house here.
Victoria
But this is when people are going to start pushing back and, like, actually finding these people and suing them like you deserve.
Avery Woods
Like, yeah, we got my Reddit down after nine months.
Victoria
Thank the Lord. I can't even look it up. Like, I can't look up like, any of the stars.
Avery Woods
I've never been on my Reddit. I never went. One time it was legally brought to my attention because my layout of my house was up, and I was like, what the fuck's going on? But I got to a point where I was like, it's so interesting that people had such an issue when I showed my kids online, but they. Then they post on Reddit how to access their room and put their safety in.
Victoria
Like, no, none of it makes sense. Like, none of it makes sense. And you can't. Like, you're dealing in, like, a world that's never existed before. So, like, whatever you do is the best you can do.
Avery Woods
Yeah.
Victoria
Is what I've come to. Yeah.
Avery Woods
So now we've obviously, like, moved and become very, very private and safe. And, like, my kids aren't online. People see maybe three minutes of my day every day, for sure, but I'm fine With that, I had to get to a point where this is my job.
Victoria
I mean, if the bills are still getting paid, the bills are still getting paid.
Avery Woods
Like, bills are getting right. And also my family is safe and I have more privacy. And yeah, that's. That's my 30s era.
Victoria
Wait, but have you seen the tick tock? Like, where they're, like, seeing kids in 2025 and it's like the evil eye emoji, it's the yellow heart. And I'm like, yeah, and. Yeah, and what else would you like?
Avery Woods
Like, I know. Well, and it's. It's. You're damned if you do, damned if you don't. And I'll stand by that. On social media. It's. You have an issue if I show my kids. But then the second I stopped showing my kids, all these tick tocks being made about me not showing my kids, and I'm like, I'm sorry, but they're not your kids. Like, it's not your choice to make and you're mad if I do. And you're.
Victoria
It makes me sad for you, though. Like, it makes me sad for your kids too, because they genuinely seem to love it. Like, a lot of. Like, they would do so many trends and, like, lip syncs. And I'm like, girl, I couldn't even lip sync like that. Like, I could. I didn't know those dances, like, and.
Avery Woods
It'S funny because they don't realize it's my job. And I mean, since the beginning, if they don't want to do something or even smile for a picture, whether it's for the Internet or for my parents, their grandparents, I will always respect that. It was never anything they were forced to do. I was never putting my kids in ads. I was never. Like, when I did Stevie voiceovers, the amount of money offered to me to do ads with those. And I was like, no, this was just a fun way for me to cope while I was home alone and Ziggy was in preschool and David was working all day. Like, it was just fun for me. It was never like a cash grab when it comes.
Victoria
People don't see what you say no to, though. They don't know. They just assume you're saying yes to everything and whoring yourself out. And it's like, I always had boundaries. I just have to. So I'm a little bit more firm now.
Avery Woods
Totally. Yeah. So I want to talk about. Oh, also, to answer your question about my hair extensions, they're tap ins.
Victoria
Really? I thought it was like a K tip, invisible, like, okay.
Avery Woods
No, I. I was just in an awkward grow out phase.
Victoria
Yeah. That's where I am.
Avery Woods
Like, I loved my really, really, really short.
Victoria
Yeah.
Avery Woods
But in my mind, I was like, oh, just giving Haley Bieber. I don't have that jawline.
Victoria
No. Like, I look back on my. I look back on my really short ones. And even with chin lipo, I was like, it's giving round. Like, that face is giving p fee. Like, okay.
Avery Woods
I tried to get chin lipo when I got a nose job and he said I didn't have enough. And I said, so you're saying I'm tiny.
Victoria
Right? Right.
Avery Woods
So you think that. Okay, Bella, I said this. But no, it was. My haircut was giving a little berries and cream. And then I was like, well, let me grow it out again. And then, you know, when it sits in your shoulders, it flips up.
Victoria
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Avery Woods
Stay away from me. I can't.
Victoria
Yeah.
Avery Woods
So then I met Eric, and he put tapings in. And I'm still learning, like, the slick backs a little hard, cuz you have to flip them up.
Victoria
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But you got to hide it.
Avery Woods
You know, I got wax stick, but I'm trying to. I'm just trying to grow it out a little bit. And he said this was the best way to do it. Keeping my hair healthy to, like, get it to the length I want and.
Victoria
Then the least damaging one, like, kind of extension.
Avery Woods
So.
Victoria
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Victoria
Yeah.
Avery Woods
Yeah. Anyways, I want to talk about Nico because I really just love you guys together so much. How did you originally meet?
Victoria
We met through mutual friends, but more so through Be Real. So she added me on Be Real and I was like, who is this girl?
Avery Woods
Wait, the one where you take a photo, like selfie and then I didn't know you can like randomly.
Victoria
No, you can't. Like we had mutual friends. That's how she like found my B Real. Cuz it was like suggested ad and.
Avery Woods
I like, she's hot.
Victoria
Well, I had only ever had four people added on B roll. And I was like a fan found my Be Real. And I was like, wait, let me look her up. And I was like, whoa, this girl's really hot. And I'm like, whoa, we have mutual friends. And yeah, added her on Be Real. We started talking dming a little bit. She was not interested in me. But I was very interested in her.
Avery Woods
Wait, why wasn't she interested?
Victoria
She thought I was too young.
Avery Woods
That's so interesting. I remember doing B Real when I was a nurse, and I thought it was. I was like, eating it up in my scrubs.
Victoria
I'm sure you were. Honestly though, I see back your scrub.
Avery Woods
Pictures and you're like, oh, I know.
Victoria
I was like, you were mogging. Like, you always had the hip hop going. Let me just say, like, oh, my God.
Avery Woods
And I. It was always. It was so funny because people would have such an issue that I'd have to take a picture of, like, my time stamps because I was like, I swear I'm off the clock. But what I really thought I ate at was, like, taking pictures of my scrubs at home with my stethoscope on. Like, right, right.
Victoria
Biggs was about to sponsor you. They were this close.
Avery Woods
Oh, my God. Oh, God. You look back at your old content, you're like, you know what, though? It got me here.
Victoria
It's literally. It gets better with every year. I'm like, I'm getting hotter, funnier, wiser, and more off the Internet. Like, yeah, like, this is great.
Avery Woods
I love that for you. You really have gotten so much hotter. Like, you were hot to start with, but your glow up is crazy.
Victoria
I mean, if when you have nothing to do all day nine to five, you better be. You better be getting hotter. Like, you better be putting in some work. Do something.
Avery Woods
But it's crazy because you've also, like, become so much more natural. Like, you hardly wear any makeup. You. And you're just even prettier. It's actually a gift.
Victoria
Yeah. I don't know. Like, I feel like also being, like, queer and like, in my queerness, I'm like, I don't feel the need to as much. Like, I feel like when I was straight and going on dates and like, seeing guys, there were all the standards of, like, what a woman is like and what a woman should look like. And I was like, I don't know. Like, I. I see Nico wake up in the morning with no makeup on, and I'm like, you look stunning. Like, why? So you don't need it? I don't need it. We don't need it.
Avery Woods
I love that. When did you realize you were gay.
Victoria
Girl? I don't know. Just happened. No, Like, I really, really. It wasn't a thing for me. Like, it wasn't something I went back and forth with. I don't have, like this tumultuous coming out story. Like, Literally, like, I had boyfriends. I had no problem with it. Like, I really didn't have any issue. And then I had like my like, first partner and it was just, it just happened. Like, it was like, oh, I guess, like, yeah, yeah.
Avery Woods
I have a friend right now that just got divorced and she started dating women and she's like, I've never been happier.
Victoria
Wait, I think I know who this person is.
Avery Woods
And I. And it's so funny because she was like, when we first started talking about a long time ago, she was like, I just never, like, imagined it. But then after I found a little bit of freedom, I was like, yeah, I couldn't be farther away from men.
Victoria
Yeah. Yeah. I feel like a lot of people, like, have traumatic experiences with men, which is what pushes them towards women. But like, for me, I just, I still feel like I'm a through and through bisexual. Like, you know, like, I'm like, I'm like, I get, I get it. But like, I couldn't imagine myself loving a man at this point. Like, that would never happen. But like, yeah, I don't know, A lot of people just have things that push them totally the other way. But for me, it was just like, oh, I guess.
Avery Woods
Yeah. Did you feel like you had to come out to your parents or were you like, I'm dating a woman?
Victoria
Yeah, I was just like dating a woman, you know, And I was like, you're either going to be with it or not. But like, me and my parents kind of had like a up and down relationship, like my whole life. Like, we're so good now. Like, I'm so, so, so happy we are, and I feel so great where we are. But like, at that time I was like, you either accept this or we're not gonna speak. You know? And like, they were like, of course. Like, they were like, never said anything about it. It was never an issue. Like, I was just very lucky in that way.
Avery Woods
That's amazing. And it's such a privilege.
Victoria
Yeah.
Avery Woods
Like, we talk about Scott's story a lot on here because he was born and raised Mormon. His dad was a bishop. You know, he served an LDS mission. He knew he was gay when he was 9, but he, he served a full mission. And it wasn't until he got home at like 2021 that he was like, yeah, I'm so gay.
Victoria
Yeah.
Avery Woods
And obviously, like, that's a huge obstacle when it comes to coming from such a religious background.
Victoria
Yeah.
Avery Woods
But his parents, it took them time, but they've become so accepting and it's amazing. To watch it and like, watch him become his true, authentic.
Victoria
I love Mormons. Let me just say, like, growing up in North Carolina, they're the best. They're so sweet. There's Mormons there. There's hella Mormons. Is there a ton of North Carolina? I don'. Know. They're there. And they're all tall and beautiful and nice.
Avery Woods
Like, one thing about Mormons, they're all goodlook.
Victoria
Yeah. What's that about? And I want to try the sod. Like the Sodi shops. Like, really? I want to try your tangerine.
Avery Woods
I should have brought one for you.
Victoria
I ordered you a ring and it didn't come in time, so it's fine.
Avery Woods
You're so sweet. No, I need to make it for you. Yeah, so it's so funny because Mormons can't. They're not supposed to have hot caffeine.
Victoria
Oh, okay.
Avery Woods
So they can have sodas. That's a big soda thing. So that's why they're soda.
Victoria
The written word. It's like no heat, just ice cream.
Avery Woods
Yeah, right. What reason? Couldn't tell you. They're also totally fine if women put silicone in their chest for their tits, period.
Victoria
Like, female empowerment. Right.
Avery Woods
And I love it. Yeah. But wow, I love that. I did not know there was Mormons there. Yeah, I don't know why. They're all good looking.
Victoria
I didn't grow up religious at all either, so there wasn't that kind of like, religious trauma. Like, my parents were like, if you believe in something, you believe in it. But, like, we're not gonna force anything on you. So I was really lucky in that way. For sure.
Avery Woods
Yeah, I was the same because I spent most my childhood in slow San Luis Obispo. My parents live in Morro Bay. I didn't even know what Mormon was.
Victoria
Yeah.
Avery Woods
The LDS Church. I knew nothing about it. And then we moved to Arizona. I literally thought it was like a club I wasn't part of. And I was like, Mormon. Like, I want to be Mormon.
Victoria
I thought you were Mormon for the longest. Like, I thought you were on the Mormon mom. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure, for sure. Like, like, literally. I would, like, tell my friends about you and they're like, this is a Mormon woman. I don't care. And I was like, no, you need. You need to know her. Like, that's crazy. You like a beautiful mom in what looks like Utah in a stunning house. Like, like, you know, like, you gotta assume.
Avery Woods
I get it.
Victoria
And you're young. You're so young. You Know, I know.
Avery Woods
That is part of like the Mormon culture is the community in Arizona and Utah is. Everyone gets married very young.
Victoria
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Avery Woods
I got married at 21. Everyone's like, are you pregnant? I was like, no. And then I had my first at 23.
Victoria
Yeah.
Avery Woods
And then I had my second at 26. And I'm 30 and my kids are both in full time school. I'm thriving.
Victoria
You know what really pisses me off for you though? Like, no Starbucks brand deal. Like you were a barista and no Starbucks brand deal.
Avery Woods
Like, honestly.
Victoria
But you won't get canceled that we don't like Starbucks.
Avery Woods
Weren't you?
Victoria
No, no.
Avery Woods
Why did I think you worked at Starbucks?
Victoria
No, never. I did work at Urban Outfitters, though. And that checks out.
Avery Woods
Yeah, it totally does. I just took a picture of Scott outside Urban Outfitters next to the Pride sign.
Victoria
Right.
Avery Woods
I put on my Instagram dump because it was so cute.
Victoria
Ally.
Avery Woods
Exactly. Yeah. No, not Mormon. And what's funny is I'm actually friends with a lot of the girls on Secret Lives and Mormon wives and like 90% of them are not active in the church.
Victoria
I like, don't watch a show, but I love them. Like, put it. Put the tik tok cut down on there and I watch it. Like, that's it. Yeah.
Avery Woods
A lot of them either. Some of them are, I guess, still members of the church and they'll go ever so every so often, but most of them are not even part of the church anymore.
Victoria
Yeah, I mean, I couldn't imagine being part of the church and doing that show. I couldn't. Like, aren't they like thruffles or whatever?
Avery Woods
Yeah, there was a little bit of a swinger situation.
Victoria
Right. I think that happens.
Avery Woods
You know what, you know what I, I attribute it to though, is that they were all so sheltered their whole lives.
Victoria
No, for sure. Like, oh my God, I'm so curious about how you raise your kids. Like, let me just ask you this. Like, no.
Avery Woods
Yeah, please do.
Victoria
Like, growing up, my mom would give us everything, like chocolate treats, everything. And now I have no problems with food in that way. You know, like, we eat everything. But I have friends who parents are. Their parents are like non gmo, only organic. And then the kids grow up and they're so fucked up with their eating and everything because of it. And I'm like, yeah, like the, the parenting style affects so much their late life and you don't even realize it because in the moment you're like, I'm making the right choices. Like, I'm Feeding them organic. I'm giving them no dairy. And then they like grow up and they're like, I hate my life, I hate my body.
Avery Woods
Yeah. No, I could not be more opposite of that. Have you ever seen my mukbangs?
Victoria
Yeah.
Avery Woods
Yeah. If you think I'm doing non GMO and eating bulldog ramen and wings.
Victoria
No, I watch your hauls. I should have known. I should have known, I should have known. I mean I was setting myself up for failures. Like I'm a fan. Like. Yes, I know.
Avery Woods
I'm like, I just signed another deal with Chili's.
Victoria
Okay. Period.
Avery Woods
That explains you and Michaela with that cheese pull. Right, right, with the cheese pull. Yeah, I know. I. Every woman goes through the stage of having issues with your body, right?
Victoria
Oh my God, for sure.
Avery Woods
I struggled with that a lot. Especially because I was always curvy. I. Huge boobs and a big butt. Really young. And I just always promised myself I wouldn't give that to my kids. That. That really negative self confident talk for sure. And like the one lame like granola mom thing I do is affirmations or daily affirmations. I aspire and yeah, I just, I think it's so important to have balance. But I also think coming to la, it's like a different beat. Like even the kids school they're going to is like eggplant enchiladas. Like you think I'm making that at home? No, like I.
Victoria
We have vegan options.
Avery Woods
Yeah. And I'm like in the morning I'm like microwaving their pancakes, you know?
Victoria
Right.
Avery Woods
Full of sugar. But I do think it's important, just have balance and just staying active. And we just always put them in everything that they enjoy. So like soccer, golf, swim, dive. Like we have them try like Ziggy just tried karate. Hated it. And so we said we need dance.
Victoria
I need the next Charlie D'. Amelio.
Avery Woods
Yesterday like Stevie started dance at 23 months. They let me put her in early, right. She was supposed to start at two, but then she walked in was like three times the size of every kid. Like okay, we can let her in cuz she's really tall. Yeah, no, she body, she th. She thick. She weighs more than Ziggy and it's. She's just a beast.
Victoria
Period, period.
Avery Woods
She's very much like my stature. And so they were like, okay, we'll let her in early. So she's been in dance since she was. Before she was two.
Victoria
That's awesome. I like, that's the one thing I regret. Like not that I had a choice, but, like, my parents didn't put me in dance, and it's like. Like, no rhythm, no nothing.
Avery Woods
No. I actually. You know how they say, like, men should learn to golf for networking, like, business in the future? I think girls should be in dance because, like, me at a wedding is a sight you don't want to see.
Victoria
Right.
Avery Woods
Like, I can't.
Victoria
Did you have cotillion, though?
Avery Woods
I. I grew up with no money. Like, no.
Victoria
I don't even know if cotillion cost money. It was just something that people did. Like, I think where they.
Avery Woods
Like. Like, they had, like, you did the chair.
Victoria
Yeah, yeah. Like, ball house. Like, I feel like I need that. Like, I'm in here. Like. Like, I'm eating. Like, that's what I need. We should take those classes.
Avery Woods
You weren't in it.
Victoria
No. Hell no. You couldn't tell.
Avery Woods
We should do, like, an adult cotillion.
Victoria
Yeah, that'll be funny as, like. Yeah, yeah. Learning how to set the table properly.
Avery Woods
So. Okay, so now let me ask you, since you asked me about this, how do you imagine raising your kids?
Victoria
Oh, my God. Naked. We're on a commune. No, I mean, I love kids so much. Oh, my God. I want to have. Have so many little kids. Not like that many little kids, though. Like, a few. Like, two, maybe three. But, yeah, it's like a different thing because we have to. Like, with me and Nico. Now you think about it a totally different way. Like, we can't just go in the back room and make it happen. Like, you kind of like, Right. Make her pockets hurt. Like, it's expensive. Like, we just talked to our friend, and she spent $30,000 inserting her sperm donor into her embryo. She has seven kids on ice. One boy, six girls. And she's like, I don't know which one I'm gonna pick. Like, they're ready. You just put them in and they're done. And I'm like, like. But then you have to go through IVF and all these things. So it's like something we're thinking about. Like, not in the near future at all, but it requires way more thinking and, like, advanced planning. And I'm like, I'm just trying to go to Europe or something. Like, that's what I'm thinking about for the next month.
Avery Woods
Yeah. And honestly, it does pay off to be in your situation rather than two men, because they have to pay for a surrogate like Eric who does my hair. Him and his husband have the most gorgeous twin girls. So cute. But, like, you have to pay for surrogate and hire, like.
Victoria
Well, you're assuming I want to carry. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Ego definitely doesn. Oh, really? Two bitches who don't want to kidnap.
Avery Woods
You want to have.
Victoria
No, like, she. She wants some, like, biological connection to it. I'm not trying to make the body hurt.
Avery Woods
Like, yeah, I got.
Victoria
I would have crazy mood swings, but, like, I don't know. We can't even think about it right now. But yeah, it takes so much thinking. And, like, do you want to carry? Like, yeah. Yeah.
Avery Woods
Do you think you guys would get married or just have kids without.
Victoria
Oh, I think we definitely get married. For sure.
Avery Woods
We just do wedding.
Victoria
Of course.
Avery Woods
I feel like you'd be in Europe.
Victoria
Hell, no. Because the most, like, America.
Avery Woods
Like, really? Yeah.
Victoria
Like, she working on her Jeep. She's under her car. She won't come to Europe with me. She's like, it's too far.
Avery Woods
Okay.
Victoria
Yeah.
Avery Woods
What. What do you picture your dream wedding being?
Victoria
I haven't thought about it really, like, at all. We're going to our first, like, I'm going to my first, like, wedding, like, next week.
Avery Woods
Okay. Take all the notes.
Victoria
Right? I will. It's a Connecticut, like, lesbian wedding. And I'm like, that's iconic.
Avery Woods
I love that.
Victoria
Yeah.
Avery Woods
Yeah. I just learned recently, and it's not. My new favorite thing to talk about is the lesbians with the U haul.
Victoria
Right.
Avery Woods
Theory. Scott taught me about that.
Victoria
Right.
Avery Woods
And now every lesbian I meet, that's my friend. I'm like, hol, you're. That. You moved in so fast. Did you guys do that?
Victoria
You're at the tip of the iceberg, baby. There's way more I can blow your mind.
Avery Woods
Okay.
Victoria
Right. But we have bed death. Lesbian bed death. We have the.
Avery Woods
Is that.
Victoria
We have the. The L chart. There's the L word. Even you could, like. I think you'd like that.
Avery Woods
What's the L word?
Victoria
I'll show you later. It's a TV show. It's a TV show.
Avery Woods
It's a TV show.
Victoria
It just, like, shows how, like, incestuous. Like, this, like, genre of LA lesbian is. And, like, it's a very interesting show. Like, a lot of people watched it, and they were. I. I, like, briefly watch. I don't. I. I shouldn't even be telling you about this. Like, I'm bisexual. Like, what do I know? But no, it's just, like, there's so much lesbian culture. Like, U haul is the tip of the iceberg. Like, and we've fought, we've Fought really hard against that. Like, me and Nico just moved in together this week. Oh, really? We've been together for, like, three years. Yeah, that's exciting.
Avery Woods
Congratulations.
Victoria
But everybody u hauls. They do it.
Avery Woods
My husband and I. You hauled.
Victoria
I mean, as you should.
Avery Woods
Like, we moved in four weeks after meeting.
Victoria
And that was the rent somehow, like. Yeah.
Avery Woods
Oh, yeah. I didn't have anything to contribute.
Victoria
I was a full time make his pockets hurt.
Avery Woods
I was like, yeah, you're gonna have.
Victoria
To pay for this.
Avery Woods
I remember my dad when I told him because I moved out of, like, my family home.
Victoria
Yeah.
Avery Woods
Into my boyfriend's house that was a cop. And they were like, what the is going on?
Victoria
Yeah.
Avery Woods
And I remember my dad being like, are you gonna financially provide for her? Make sure she has car insurance and her phone bill paid and all this stuff? And I was like, it was a really uncomfortable situation. But yeah, we u hauled it.
Victoria
And now who's covering his phone and.
Avery Woods
Now who's got the bills?
Victoria
Right, right, right.
Avery Woods
Okay, looking back, what do you think? Younger. What do you wish Younger. Victoria knew?
Victoria
Like, I guess that everything will be okay. Like, you know, I feel, like, very, very unstable. Like, most of my life up until this point. I'm so lucky to, like, have that peace and that, like, security and, like, community that I never really had. Like, I was definitely, like, just such a problem for most of my life. And now I feel, like, whole, and I feel like, like, good, you know, and that it's gonna get better.
Avery Woods
Why do you think you were a problem?
Victoria
I think I just had a lot of unresolved, like, honestly, as most people do. And, like, you know, when I, like, sometimes I think about, like, when I was younger and kids, and I'm like, y' all have so much free time, Like, y' all have so much free time to, like, make a problem, make an issue out of everything. Like, it's not that deep.
Avery Woods
Yeah. Do you. Were you a good kid in school or did you act out?
Victoria
I mean, I was just, like, always smart enough to, like, get by and not try. You know, that was my thing. Like, I was like, I could get the grades and not really do the homework or study and then, like, just skate by, you know, I didn't have, like, goals.
Avery Woods
Okay. So I need to know because I can never tell if it's a, like, satire, joke, or if it's true. Are you really a nepo baby?
Victoria
100.
Avery Woods
Really?
Victoria
Yeah. Like, generational wealth.
Avery Woods
Oh, okay. So what do you. What do your parents do?
Victoria
So my dad is a. No.
Avery Woods
Oh, you're joking.
Victoria
No, no, no, I'm not. I'm not, I'm not. I'm not an apple baby. No, no, no. But like, I. I am. Like, I am my own Nepa baby. Like you are your own Nepo baby.
Avery Woods
Yeah. So valid, right?
Victoria
Like, that's my vibe. Like, it's a bit. Like, it's a bit. Some people really do believe the bit, though.
Avery Woods
No, I. Well, you told me about your. Or not told me, but you shared your mom's Van Cleef, right?
Victoria
Yes.
Avery Woods
And I was like, oh, yeah, she got money.
Victoria
It was the single Alhambra. She got Generational wealth. No, that sold you. Like, that was it. You just saw one Van Cleef and you were like, totally.
Avery Woods
Here's the thing. When I saw that video, I was still new to money. Okay. I didn't realize, like, I was like.
Victoria
She didn't know how much she was gonn gonna have on very soon.
Avery Woods
I know I was. I'm looking down at my now and.
Victoria
I'm like, I love your stack. Your stack is so nice. And your ear stack is insane. But no, it's a bit for sure. Like, my mom was like, first in her family to go to college. Like, for her first ever bonus she got, she bought a Van Cleef because she saw all these rich women wearing it. She was like, I'm gonna be a rich woman. And then she gave it to me. And then I bought my big pendant to give to my daughter or son or whoever.
Avery Woods
I love the big pendant.
Victoria
I. Yeah, it's so nice.
Avery Woods
I love it.
Victoria
It's so nice.
Avery Woods
Oh, my God. Like, when you double wrap. Oh, it's.
Victoria
Yeah. I got rid of that chain, though, because I don't like the chain on it. I put it on my own, like, fixed chain. But I feel like you could go with like a nice big pendant, like sitting right on your between breastbone, like area.
Avery Woods
Yeah. I got a tattoo checking you out right now. No, it's okay. I got like a sternum tattoo, so maybe I'll just.
Victoria
I saw that.
Avery Woods
Yeah, it's really cute.
Victoria
Yeah, it's. It.
Avery Woods
I'm actually getting another tattoo tomorrow.
Victoria
Oh, exciting.
Avery Woods
Yeah, I'm flying to Arizona. Forex. My girl's out there.
Victoria
Yeah. Do you have tattoos? Yes.
Avery Woods
What do you have?
Victoria
I have like, my whole, like, back. I have a bunch of my back and then these, but I'm getting some removed on my hands and then I have some up here, but like all small fine line. Like, same vibe.
Avery Woods
Like, I'm obsessed with your Back tattoos because they're so random but curated at the same time.
Victoria
I mean, Peggy goo, like, she's my inspo. I remember seeing a picture of her when I was in high school and I was like, that's going to be me.
Avery Woods
Are you getting your tattoos removed right now?
Victoria
I'm getting one removed. It was my first tattoo I got just because it didn't fit the vibe, you know, like, it wasn't dainty, it wasn't fine line. It was already blown out within a year. And then I'm getting my hand tattoos removed just because everybody told me I was going to regret them. And they kind of manifested that for me.
Avery Woods
Like, where are you going for? Because I need a couple removed.
Victoria
Ruth Swiss baby, I will get you there tomorrow. Ruth, Ruth Swissa. She's the best. I got my lips tattooed there. Alexis Ren goes there. Stassi baby goes there. All the baddies go there.
Avery Woods
Yeah, I need that info because I literally was just going to post on my Instagram today.
Victoria
LA tattooer look like two sessions almost gone.
Avery Woods
Okay. Cuz I have, like, a lot I want done.
Victoria
Yeah. Yeah. Like, for sure. Like, I don't get, like, the stigma behind getting things removed. Like, I'm sorry. I want, like a good body of work that's like, cohesive.
Avery Woods
Yeah. And I think I've just been getting so many random tattoos from 8 or 19 until now 30. So the last 11 years.
Victoria
Yeah.
Avery Woods
And there's a few that I'm like, my traditional stick and poke from Kauai, like, obsessed with my hand tattoos. Because they haven't budged.
Victoria
Yeah.
Avery Woods
They haven't faded at all because they're traditional.
Victoria
Hailey Bieber could never. Like, hers are like, hanging on by a thread. So, like, whenever I see their hand tattoos, I'm like, whoa. Yeah. I should have known. Mine are going. Yeah.
Avery Woods
So that was what my artist told me. Blob Dylan's her name. You so fuck with her. Like, she's so your vibe.
Victoria
Yeah.
Avery Woods
She does a lot in LA and New York too. But she actually learned to tattoo out of her apartment in New York because she couldn't afford getting tattoos. So she learned herself and she told me that the reason hand tattoos fade so quickly with an electric needle is because they turn gray.
Victoria
Yeah.
Avery Woods
Whereas traditional stick and poke, they don't turn gray. And I was like, if I get tattoos on my hands, that's what I don't want is for them to fade.
Victoria
No, I had to get these touched up because they were fading so bad and they were fading again and I'M like, okay, I'm just gonna get there.
Avery Woods
Yeah. Okay. We need to talk about your jewelry line.
Victoria
10 4.
Avery Woods
It's so good. And it's so you. Like, you. You see so many influencers start brands, and sometimes when people announce it, which I'm like, good for you. Start. You're starting a business. It's a hard thing to do, but sometimes they'll announce, and I'm like, when have you ever used something like that? Like, when, when that's. When has that ever been your brand? This is made for you. Like, you were meant to do this. So walk me through how it started, your inspo behind it, and your goals with it.
Victoria
Yeah, I mean, we were. I originally did a collab with my business partner, Jill. She owns a brand called Fragile, and so we did a collab underneath her brand, and it was so successful. It sold out so quick, like, way more successful than we thought it was going to be. And we were like, we can't just stop here. We got to do something else. And we started working on our own brand together. And it's been, like, over a year or two in the making now. Yeah. The inspiration behind our first collection was this Marseille necklace. It's a South of France, like. Like a gold beaded necklace. And it was traditionally a necklace that people used to, like, show and save wealth. So, like, Marseille's a historically a high crime area in France. And so you, like, don't. They say don't wear jewelry out in Marseille, but a lot of these families would, like, take everything they earned and, like, buy a gold bead to add to this necklace to pass down to generations. To generations. And so I showed her this necklace and shared the story, and I was like, I'm obsessed. And I'm like, how can we deconstruct the balls, the gold beads, and incorporate them in every piece? So, like, ear cuffs, rings, necklaces, everything. So it was a totally deconstructed Marseille necklace and expanded to every piece possible. And we're working on our next collection, and it's been great, but having a business is a grind, like, the tariffs, the recession.
Avery Woods
Like, that's what I've heard.
Victoria
Yeah.
Avery Woods
And it. It scares me because I've been working on my business for over a year now, and I just refuse to come out with anything until it's perfect.
Victoria
Yeah.
Avery Woods
Because, you know, no matter what you do, it's going to be ripped to shreds because people are going to review it. And so I'm like, I will make it perfect before I release it. But it also scares the shit out of me because everyone I know that started a business is like, girl, it's another level.
Victoria
Yeah, for sure. Like, you got to live and breathe it. And I'm like, whoa. But, yeah, no, I think yours will be great. No matter what you do, everything you do is like, it does well. Like, your audience is so, like, cult. Like, I think a lot of people start a business thinking it's going to pay the bills and the people aren't there to support it so well.
Avery Woods
And you've, like. I remember one of my first ever time seeing you was a Europe summer post, and it was. I think it was like a. A pose like this where you had all your hands out with your jewelry and your necklaces. And I was like, oh, her shit is so good. Thank you. So good. You are obsessed with Europe. You travel all the time.
Victoria
Yeah.
Avery Woods
What's your number one favorite place?
Victoria
Oh, my gosh. I mean, I do love Marseille. Like, south of France is amazing. But I mean, like, Asia for me is, like, next level. Like, I love Korea. I love Seoul. Cool. We just recently did the north of Japan, which is, like, Hokkaido. A lot of people do, like, Tokyo, Kyoto, Osaka. But, like, going outside of it and seeing the north, which is, like, all the nature up there, is really great. I really want to do, like, Australia, New Zealand. But yeah, I also had a great time in Sri Lanka. Totally different experience, but yeah. Yeah.
Avery Woods
Where's a dream destination that you haven't been yet?
Victoria
I haven't been to Australia, and I really want to go.
Avery Woods
David lived in Australia.
Victoria
Really?
Avery Woods
Music there.
Victoria
Oh, my God. He's, like, so multifaceted. Like, what?
Avery Woods
That's what I'm like, People don't realize. Like, I'm like. They think he's, like, this big macho cop. And I was like, no. He played guitar his whole life. He had ringlet curls to his shoulders. And he moved to Australia to surf.
Victoria
Cute.
Avery Woods
And play music. Like, he loved it there. And he always says, like, I want to take you there so bad.
Victoria
I don't want to go until we can go for, like, a month. And, like, obviously, like, Nico has a job. And, like, I'm like, okay.
Avery Woods
Like, she's a normal.
Victoria
I'm like, when can we go for a month? Like, let's go.
Avery Woods
Yeah. I. I just want to know, like. Like, what water they're drinking. Australia, because everyone's so hot.
Victoria
The mullets are all so good. Like, I'm gonna come back with another mullet.
Avery Woods
It's crazy. Like, I work with csb. All the time, the workout attire. And I love their company. And over New York Fashion Week, the whole team flew out from Australia to New York. And I was like, they're. They're like, you just look at them and you're like, I've never felt more low about myself.
Victoria
Right. But can we talk about the way that the. The Mommy Morbin influencer is to the Australian fitness girl, like Tammy Hembro. And I didn't even know that Crop Shop Boutique or whatever was Australian. But there's so many Australian athleisure brands. Like, that's their thing.
Avery Woods
Like, it really is. Because Rachel, who started csp, was like, I want to wear a bra top to the gym that's like, made for working out without people looking at me like, what the fuck is that? And hence Crop Shop Boutique. That's where it came from.
Victoria
Iconic. Iconic.
Avery Woods
Which is genius because that's all I wear.
Victoria
Yeah.
Avery Woods
I got my titties hanging out. I paid for them for a reason. The fuck?
Victoria
Like, literally, I'm like, I'm gonna top surgery. Like, I'm closer to that end of the spectrum than like getting them done. Like, I'm like, get them off the chest. Like, really? Yeah. Oh, my God. Yeah. Like, I love giving nothing in a top.
Avery Woods
Like, you just hate boobs.
Victoria
No, no, no, no, no. Well, I am gay.
Avery Woods
You like feeling boobs. You don't like them on your chest?
Victoria
No, no. Like, like, it just doesn't add to the vibe of my outfit sometimes. Like, I don't know. If I had double Ds right now, this would give very differently. Like, this would. I'm trying to give, like, androgynous.
Avery Woods
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Victoria
Tron legacy.
Avery Woods
So here's my thing that I'll say about having no boobs is that it's giving very, like, model esque body. Like, you look like a model and I just had naturally really big boobs before kids, and then when I breastfed them, I needed to replace the tube sock situation.
Victoria
Yeah. What a lot of people don't realize is, like, every single boob job you see, that's really, really good. And like a lot of these people that you're speculating, do they have boob jobs? They had natur. Big boobs. It sits the nicest. It holds the best. Like, if I were to go get double Ds tomorrow, like, they would gravitate east coast, west coast wars. Like, it would be like splitting the Red Sea. Like, you wonder why you see implants in the armpit. It's because I don't have enough meat to support a double D, like.
Avery Woods
Yeah, well, it would also lift the skin off the sterna. Yeah, I heard that's a big mistake. A lot of, like, flat chest girls do is they put an implant so big that literally lifts that skin off your sternum.
Victoria
Yeah. Yeah, I could see that.
Avery Woods
Like, no, thanks.
Victoria
Yeah, I'm good.
Avery Woods
Yeah, no, you should have said I was in, like, an east coast, west coast situation where I would lay down and, like, one nipple would be on this side of the bed and the other would be on this side.
Victoria
Yeah, I mean, we fixed them.
Avery Woods
Sorry.
Victoria
They look great.
Avery Woods
Thank you.
Victoria
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Victoria
Our young singles are joined by Golden.
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Victoria
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Victoria
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Victoria
Apparently it's not a robbery because I wasn't there. Like robberies like they broken while you're there and something aggravated happened and burglary is like they just came in and stole stuff. So burglary, I guess.
Avery Woods
Yeah. Still bad. You've pulled back a lot. Do you feel safer? Do you feel at peace with that decision?
Victoria
I feel super chill. Like the Zoloft is hitting. Like life is good. Nobody's at the house but me. Like, no, I feel really great. I feel like I'm in the best head space I've been in a long time. Like, I feel like I have my friends, my family, my partner feels like strong and healthy and happy and that's really what matters to me.
Avery Woods
I love that that you do you get a lot of Internet hate.
Victoria
Honestly, I used to get way more. Like the girls, they haven't been like, maybe I fell off. Like, they have not been hating that much. Like maybe I need to do something. Beat a purse on the ground.
Avery Woods
Like you have not something, I promise. Do you. Does it get to you, like when hate happens or when you see negative stuff about you or negative comments? Do does it get to you or do you get to a point where you just separate it and you're good?
Victoria
I mean, like my career hasn't really taken like I haven't become like Anara Smith. I'm not like an actress to the point getting like mass amounts of hate. Like my career stayed pretty steady and it's the same like core audience. So the hate hasn't gotten like any bigger than it ever was. If anything, it's gotten smaller. And if at this point of doing this for four or five years, if you can't handle it, I'm sorry you haven't developed the right coping mechanisms. Like, this is what comes with a job. This is why you get paid so well. If you can't put up with that, like, whoa, the AC just went out and it was like, silence. No, but, like, I. Of course it gets to everybody. Like, if it was a whole new wave or something, like, totally new happened to me and, like, thrust to a whole new light where they, like, dissected me, that would really affect me. But, like, honestly, like, my. My career has been pretty chill. Like, I have really not been a problem. I feel like recently you are just.
Avery Woods
So, like, authentically yourself and, like, knowing you in person now, you are the exact same to me, which I. That's my goal too. And I feel like it's very rare for that to happen. Do you feel like there's any sort of disconnect between your audience online and who you are in real life? Or do you think it's. You get. You get what you get.
Victoria
My friend here, My friend Ali's here, and she says you're way nicer in person. Like, she's. She' said, these girls. If these girls knew how nice you were, Like. And I'm like, they don't need to know. And they don't need to know.
Avery Woods
I also think it's different when. When someone has their opinion made up about you, you can't convince them otherwise. But also, you're not interacting with a human being in real life with no cameras, when you're recording yourself. Like, it is our job and you are speaking, like, to a broad audience. But I feel like I get that too, where. When I interact with people, like, you're so nice. I'm like, do you expect me to be like. Like, go fuck yourself when you come up to. Like, I was not raised like that.
Victoria
Yeah. No.
Avery Woods
And that's also my biggest fear is for someone to think that I'm different in person or a mean person. Like, I don't.
Victoria
But you're allowed to. Like, I. I've come to the acceptance of that. Like, if you catch me on a bad day, like, I might be a bitch. Like, I could have my period. I might have just gotten in a car crash. I'm sorry. I can't serve face and friend every single day of the week.
Avery Woods
You know what? That's valid.
Victoria
Like, it's okay. Like, it's. If you're gonna cancel me for, like, one bad interaction, like, so be it. Like, I'm just a person. I have, like, what, it could have been a bad day.
Avery Woods
Like, yeah, that's so.
Victoria
But, like, if you're chronically not tipping. Okay.
Avery Woods
Oh, yes, we have an issue. Scott knows that's my biggest thing. Like, I will always give a fatty tip.
Victoria
Right? Right. Like, there are Some things that are avoidable, like, yeah.
Avery Woods
And like, you don't know what's going on in their life.
Victoria
Right? Like, oh, yeah.
Avery Woods
I'll never forget. Did you ever see when Kylie Jenner's receipt at Nobu got leaked?
Victoria
Oh, no.
Avery Woods
People gave her so much hate because she gave 25. And I said, said, I'm sorry, was. Were you expecting to get, like a thousand dollar tip? I don't understand.
Victoria
Did you see that Jeff Bezos doesn't pay his tips. He sends it to his security, and then people are like, oh, it's so that he doesn't have to tip. And I'm like, I don't know what I would do even if I was Jeff Bezos. Like, would I just give out thousands every day? Like, I don't know.
Avery Woods
What do you mean? Gives it to his security so he.
Victoria
Doesn'T even ever interact with the bill. The bill gets brought to his security. They don't even, like, touch money. No card, no. Can I get the bill? Like, the security closes out for them. They walk in, they eat, they walk out. I'm trying to get like that. Like, I'm trying to get my money up.
Avery Woods
I have. I have a funny story I can tell you off camera about Jeff Bezos.
Victoria
Oh. Period.
Avery Woods
Because it's actually very interesting. Long story short, he gets spray tans.
Victoria
Okay. Period. Did you see that RFK Jr. Was at the tanning salon, but he's mad at red 40 and he's mad at Coke Zero. Like, make it make sense.
Avery Woods
See, that's what. That's what makes me laugh. It's like all these people nowadays, and it's like, I grew up eating all the shit and I turned out just fine. Well, well. So valid. No, you know what? I'll take that. I'll take that.
Victoria
You're perfect. You're perfect. I just had to, you know, like.
Avery Woods
I know I question it daily, but I'm like, what it is is these, like, Facebook mom groups.
Victoria
Oh, my God. I made it to the Ugly, Ugly Kitchen Facebook group. They were like, this girl's the most ugly fucking kitchen. And I was like, your kitchen? My old kitchen. And I don't. You can't go on Facebook, girl. Like, you can't. They have too much time.
Avery Woods
I don't have Facebook.
Victoria
No, no, no, no.
Avery Woods
I. Yeah, no, you had, like, one of the most stunning homes I've ever seen.
Victoria
Oh, my gosh. You need to come to my house. This new house is so pretty. I wish I could post it more. Like, when I move out. Just know I'm gonna be like pre recording. Like, hey, mtv, welcome to my crib. Like you got to see it one and a half years later.
Avery Woods
No, I want to come over.
Victoria
Yeah, you should.
Avery Woods
I'll definitely come over. I won't bring my kids. They'll ruin everything.
Victoria
I'll come to your house to meet them.
Avery Woods
Okay. I want to talk about fashion because you have some of the most iconic style and you look fab to the today. Thank you. Where's your inspo come from?
Victoria
Well, I did come from a workout class, so I was like, what's not going to show my swamp ass? No, I changed into this. But I was like so worried. I was sweating through this when I first sat down. I still am, I think, but I knew it was going to be cold. So like long sleeves was important, right? Some long shorts. Cuz I didn't shave my legs. You might see that. And the burks, like, they just match the top. Like.
Avery Woods
But when you are looking for inspo, are you pulling from Pinterest, from magazines, editorials? Feel like you just are yourself?
Victoria
Yeah, but like, I feel like most of the time like I'm in sweats, in a like sweatshirt, sweatpants. And like when I do want to get dressed, I'm like, what top have I been dying to wear? And then I go off that. Like, usually I go off like the pieces that are already in my closet. Like, I don't try to like consume online to like create my outfits. And that is usually a miss, like what I do. The way I get dressed, it looks crazy like most of the time, but sometimes it's good.
Avery Woods
No, but that's what I was gonna say is you pick pieces that I would never put together in a million years. And your outfit, videos, I'm like, if I put that on, I would look, someone would take me to jail. Someone would be like, she definitely like on the side of the road doing something she shouldn't do. She looks so good in all of it.
Victoria
Thank you. That makes me really happy. But I like to experiment with like mask and fem style. And I feel like sometimes like when I'm in my more masculine clothes, like, people are like, I could never wear that. And I'm like, you can. You definitely can.
Avery Woods
I'll give it a go. But then I'm gonna.
Victoria
Adam, Adam Sandler.
Avery Woods
I'm gonna send you a picture and you're like, take that off your body.
Victoria
Your kids are gonna be like, mommy, are you a lesbian? And you're like, I know one.
Avery Woods
And you know what if I was then they would praise me for it because we are a very gay, inclusive household. I feel so, you know, like my job before in pediatric nursing and then David's job as a sergeant, we just saw so many really sad kids that, like, were not accepted, that had a lot of suicidal ideation, that were in mental institutions because their parents weren't wanted to put him in conversion camps. Yeah, just like, really, really sad stuff. And I just feel so lucky that my kids have such an accepting household. And, like, we'll always raise them to have a relationship where they can come to us no matter what, no matter what's going on, and they will never, ever be judged.
Victoria
Yeah. I mean, like, then you'll end up with a kid like me. Like, you know, like, they'll. They'll come out when they want to.
Avery Woods
And if they are, and then they'll be paying my bills, period.
Victoria
Period.
Avery Woods
You've been sharing a lot of workout videos, which I really want to copy. You just did like an ab circuit.
Victoria
Yeah.
Avery Woods
And I really want to do that.
Victoria
I'm getting back into my workout era. Like, I literally, if, like, feel strong and healthy and like, you know, look.
Avery Woods
At your toned is. Your legs are insane.
Victoria
Thank you. Yeah, I used to be a personal trainer and like, getting into all that has been like, fun and sharing that again. I mean, my first videos that everyone viral were running. So, like, I used to. I ran the New York City marathon when I was like, 21 1. I used to run like 10, 15, 20 miles. So, like, I've always loved fitness.
Avery Woods
That's really cool.
Victoria
Yeah.
Avery Woods
Yeah, I've been loving that. I saved a couple of them just trying to get in my, like, fitness area.
Victoria
Let's do a workout video together. We'll come, we'll do it.
Avery Woods
Oh, yeah, well, you can follow what Victoria's doing. And then I'll be like, it's like.
Victoria
Jake Shane, like, shaking it.
Avery Woods
Literally. That is me and Pilates. What's a typical day in your life realistically look like off camera?
Victoria
I mean, like now, like, I always wake Nico up for work, and she's getting into the office earlier. So we wake up like 6:30. She gets out of bed at like 6:45. She gets dressed, she goes, you're such.
Avery Woods
A good partner for getting up that early. Couldn't catch me dead, right?
Victoria
Well, like, the thing is, is, like, if I don't, who will? Like, I'm scared she's gonna sleep in and then come home later. And I'm like, no, come home early. But yeah, like, hang out with friends, like, a few times a week, if that. But I always try to, like, make my videos, like, do what I have to do around the house. Like, my life is super chill. Like, there's no, like, set day. If I have some kind of beauty treatment, I'll go do that. If I want to work out, I'll do that. If I want to lay it on tan, I do that. I have, like, literally the chillest life ever, and I'm so blessed.
Avery Woods
You love your beauty treatment.
Victoria
I do. It's so funny because, like, why, like, you love beauty so much, but no makeup? Like, what's the Me? Me, Me?
Avery Woods
No. But I also think people always ask me about my skin. That's, like, my number one.
Victoria
Yeah, your skin is tea.
Avery Woods
And it's because I'm like, I wear makeup maybe one to two days a week, if that. And, like, I don't even own. I actually just bought foundation at the mall yesterday for the first time. I wear, like, tinted sunscreen, screener, just. Yeah, concealer. But that's very important to a beauty routine. As long as your skin breathes.
Victoria
For sure. For sure. Like, yeah, when I have a pimple, I'm just rocking it, like, raw, dogging it. Maybe a pimple patch.
Avery Woods
Yeah, I was gonna say a pimple patch is good.
Victoria
Hero Cosmetics, sponsor me again, please.
Avery Woods
You're like, get that bag. Yeah, I'll clip it for you in time. Don't worry. What's something that people assume about you that's just not true?
Victoria
That I'm sure. Like, what?
Avery Woods
She's a tall girl.
Victoria
We're, like, around the same height. I feel like I think you're a.
Avery Woods
Little bit taller than me, actually.
Victoria
People are like, I thought you'd be, like, 5, 5, 5, 4. And I'm like, okay, give me my few inches. Like, like.
Avery Woods
Yeah, no, you're. You. Have you ever modeled?
Victoria
No. I've done a lot of shoots and stuff for this, you know, like, this career.
Avery Woods
I feel like you could do, like, some seriously editorial.
Victoria
You and my mom would hit it off because she's like, why are you doing this? No need a model. And I'm like, you are blind.
Avery Woods
Well, you can still do what you're doing and just have a little shoot here and there. But, like, you have the face, you have the bone structure. You have. No, literally, it's giving mog. You have the height and the body.
Victoria
Thank you. Yeah. I mean, like, it's definitely not something that's been explored. It definitely may never be explored, but one can hope.
Avery Woods
But you're always talking about, like, how to post for photos. Easy for Instagram. Like, I've seen your post where you're like, here's some pose ideas for Instagram.
Victoria
I mean, I do love taking photos and I love all the shoots that I've done and I've been like, lucky enough. We've just did the COVID of Elle and then I did the COVID of.
Avery Woods
Cosmo, which do you fucking here. That's crazy.
Victoria
They were, they were sick. It was sick. It was a super cool opportunity. And being on set, I love that. I love tapping into that. But yeah, you really got to be in the head space. Like, I give my props to models because they are actresses and actors. Like, they get into their character. They really like pull it out of themselves.
Avery Woods
Yeah, couldn't be me. What's your goal with your platform today?
Victoria
Just today?
Avery Woods
Yeah, just right now.
Victoria
Like, I'm like, today. I mean, I might post a story, like a talk.
Avery Woods
What's your goal? Like, what do you, what do you want people to take away from your brand, from what you share? What do you want them to take away when they're watching you?
Victoria
I just want them to be like, along for the ride. Like, I'm not sure where it's going, but we're going somewhere and we're together. Right? Like, let's keep, let's keep this, let's keep this good energy going.
Avery Woods
And they do stick with you.
Victoria
Yeah.
Avery Woods
Like, your audience is obsessed with you.
Victoria
Yeah, they're. They're nice. I like them. No, I love them. Like, seriously, I wouldn't have anything without them. And I feel like I've grown so much. My audience, like, every person that comes to like, pop up story meet, I've been like, I remember you in your New York days. And I'm like, that was scary. Like, I'm glad we're here now.
Avery Woods
Yeah. Isn't it crazy when people are like, I remember when you did did this.
Victoria
And I remember when I came to your ring doorbell camera and I kissed it and I'm like, oh, okay.
Avery Woods
Someone posted not too long ago video of me doing like one of my first ever like Amazon try on videos because I became an Amazon affiliate I think in like 2017 when I had no money and I would just get like gift cards in exchange for selling stuff and I would sell like one thing. So like a 20 gift card. And I was like, fuck, yeah.
Victoria
I didn't even know that existed. Like, I wasn't tapped in. I wasn't aligned in like, oh, we.
Avery Woods
Were so broke and so I was like, period. I'll buy our toilet paper on that this month. But I would do, like, little Amazon try on hauls. And someone had, like, saved that Tik Tok from, I don't know, like, 2021 or something. It was like, just remember this is where she started. I said, oh, I don't think you.
Victoria
Need to remember, actually. Yeah, we don't have to block that one out.
Avery Woods
So sometimes it's scary going back and seeing that. Okay, years from now, what do you hope people say about this era of your life?
Victoria
Calm, peaceful, relaxed. Like, really enjoyed it. 10 out of 10 would watch again.
Avery Woods
Okay, period. To wrap it up, we do a little quick Q A from fans. So here's what they want to know. Go to Comfort Show.
Victoria
Johnny Capos eight. Right, Right. Pull that out of the archive. Like, come on. I grew up watching that. Like, yeah. And you were surprised. I wanted to, like, grow up and have kids. Like, that was my shit.
Avery Woods
It. I did not. That's the last show. I thought you like Hannah Montana, maybe Yellow.
Victoria
When he got divorced, I was, like, in shambles. Like, I. And then he became a dj. Like, what the.
Avery Woods
The clips on Tik Tok from her just tears. Just actually.
Victoria
Oh, like, literally, like, don't talk about them. Like, that's my people. Like, her hair or it's all spiked. No, her haircut, like, laid the foundation for reality tv.
Avery Woods
That's the real Karen haircut.
Victoria
Oh, my God. Like, I missed that.
Avery Woods
Like, those were so mean to him, though.
Victoria
Oh, my God. Yeah.
Avery Woods
Him up.
Victoria
Yeah. And, like, don't her kids, like, not speak to her now?
Avery Woods
No, none of them. They look sad. I'll just never forget in, like, the intro when she's, like, laying in the hospital and she turned away, her stomach is literally out to hero. Was just full of veins.
Victoria
I was like, wow, wait, do I want to have kids? After seeing that clip, I, like, I.
Avery Woods
Barely survived singleton pregnancy when I'm six and one.
Victoria
Right, right.
Avery Woods
Oh, my God. Okay, well, we already talked about your dream vacation destination. Australia. Like, Sydney.
Victoria
I want to do all of it. Like, Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane, and also I want to go to New Zealand. So while I'm over there.
Avery Woods
Oh, yeah. Biggest pet peeve.
Victoria
Liars. No, we were just talking about this. Like, we hate how people lie and it's very much a thing in la. Like, lying. I hate that.
Avery Woods
Really?
Victoria
Yeah.
Avery Woods
God, there's just so much about the city. I'm.
Victoria
Well, I'm just like, who's paying for this house? Like, who's paying for the house? But right, like, where.
Avery Woods
Where maybe only fans.
Victoria
No. Oh, generational wealth. Like, the Nepa babies are out in the. No, I'm just kidding.
Avery Woods
Okay, got it. Favorite date spot.
Victoria
The couch.
Avery Woods
The couch is at a restaurant.
Victoria
Our couch at the house. No, but these are gonna be great clips. Like, you really keep it quick with me. Like, our bits are good.
Avery Woods
Yeah, I know. That's why I had you on. Or you can't.
Victoria
Kidding me.
Avery Woods
Celebrity crush.
Victoria
Margaret Qualley. Kristen Stewart.
Avery Woods
I love Margaret.
Victoria
I'm trying to think of a man. It's a hard one.
Avery Woods
I kind of want to know, like, your male type. Right.
Victoria
Me too. I don't think they're actually like, of course, Jacob Elordi. Like, duh.
Avery Woods
But, like, he does something to me. My husband's the same height as him.
Victoria
Yeah. And honestly, like, when he was dating Kaia Gerber, I was at a club behind them, and my hair was very long and I go like this. And I flipped my hair into Kaya's face and I was like, I'm so sorry. She was like, it's fine, babe. And Jacob's like, Like, oh, my God. Like, I'm gonna kill myself.
Avery Woods
They're such a hot couple.
Victoria
And he's so nice. And he's like, every time I see him out, very nice to everybody. Like, Kaya, too. Very nice to everybody. So, yeah, I'll give him his props.
Avery Woods
I love that you just, like, casually, like, have, like, run into him a few times. Times. That's not.
Victoria
I mean, I need to hear about your Jeff Bezos story.
Avery Woods
Oh, it was just that he gets spray tan.
Victoria
Okay, okay, okay.
Avery Woods
That's all I got.
Victoria
You gotta stay in LA longer. Well, this was in New York.
Avery Woods
But, yeah, I just, like, here's the thing. I just don't leave my little bubble.
Victoria
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Avery Woods
I'm kind of scared of everyone.
Victoria
I think that I would have a really good series, like, actually explaining all my famous people interactions. Like, I haven't talked about any of them. And then I'm like, no, but I. What if we're friends one day? I'm holding out. I'm holding out for it.
Avery Woods
We should do like a Get ready with me.
Victoria
Get ready with me to exponent.
Avery Woods
Get ready with me to talk about meeting Jacob B. Okay. Do you drink coffee?
Victoria
Yes.
Avery Woods
Go to coffee.
Victoria
Order iced latte, regular milk with honey.
Avery Woods
I saute, like, 2% milk.
Victoria
The whole baby. Like, whole. Hormones and all.
Avery Woods
I wish I would be. I would be.
Victoria
Oh, no. I. I'm, like, farting a lot. Like, Nico was like, If I'm going to get my fertility check, like, you need to go to an IBS doctor. And I'm like, I know. For like, richer, poorer health or sickness. Right?
Avery Woods
No, it's so true.
Victoria
Right?
Avery Woods
Yeah. Yeah. Marriage is a wild one. Okay, well, that's all I have. Thank you so much.
Victoria
Thanks for having me. It was so fun.
Avery Woods
I'm obsessed with you. I'm coming over to your house asap.
Victoria
Yes.
Avery Woods
Having a date on your couch. Not the restaurant, the couch.
Victoria
And then I can watch your kids. Would you trust me with your kids?
Avery Woods
Yeah.
Victoria
Okay.
Avery Woods
I don't even have. I don't have a babysitter or nanny or anyone. When it's just. It's just us. We're just surviving.
Victoria
Right.
Avery Woods
So maybe I'll just come drop them off.
Victoria
Yes. Yes. There's a gate. So they won't go far.
Avery Woods
It's more than likely they will strip down and be running around.
Victoria
That's totally. I used to, like, I used to nanny, like career nanny. And I have to restrain, like naked kids because.
Avery Woods
Yeah.
Victoria
You know, you know how they get.
Avery Woods
They won't have to be restrained. They're really good.
Victoria
Okay.
Avery Woods
But they'll probably be in the nude.
Victoria
Right.
Avery Woods
And they love all things gmo. And red dye for. Yes. All right. Cheers.
Victoria
Cheers.
Avery Woods
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Victoria
Incredible.
Avery Woods
Amazing.
Victoria
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Victoria
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Avery Woods
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Victoria
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Podcast Summary: CHEERS! with Avery Woods
Episode Title: Not a Nepo Baby | Victoria Paris
Host: Avery Woods
Guest: Victoria Paris
Release Date: July 21, 2025
In this engaging episode of CHEERS! with Avery Woods, host Avery Woods welcomes Victoria Paris, a dynamic content creator and influencer, to discuss her journey, personal experiences, and professional ventures. The conversation offers listeners an intimate look into Victoria's life, shedding light on her resilience, creativity, and the balancing act between public presence and personal privacy.
Victoria begins by sharing her upbringing, detailing her early years in New Jersey (0-10 years) before moving to North Carolina (10-18 years). She highlights the stark contrast between these environments, shaping her adaptable and multifaceted personality.
Notable Quote:
Victoria (02:33): "I thought I was gonna get married to have kids. Like, I thought I was gonna be a stay-at-home mom. I really was."
Victoria's parents had aspirations for her to move to New York City post-college, a vision inspired by their own experiences in the city. Defying her parents' initial plans, Victoria pursued higher education at Indiana University for a year before transferring to The New School in New York to study New York City history (03:57).
While in New York, Victoria's career took an unexpected turn during the pandemic. Initially employed at a fintech startup, the company's collapse left her seeking new opportunities. Leveraging her existing Depop account, she pivoted to creating TikTok videos to drive traffic and engagement.
Notable Quote:
Victoria (05:04): "I started making TikToks and they just took off. I got like a million followers in six months."
Her rapid growth on TikTok led to her first brand deal, which paid off her student loans and cemented her path in content creation. Unlike many in the social media space, Victoria majored in New York City history rather than a field directly related to marketing or communications (05:23).
Notable Quote:
Victoria (05:44): "There's no one career or one major that's going to set you up for this. It's more of a self-start kind of thing."
A pivotal moment in Victoria's life was a burglary at her Silver Lake home. She narrates how oversharing details of her life on social media inadvertently compromised her security.
Notable Quote:
Victoria (12:06): "I had really teased about my Euro summer, and then someone broke in and knew where my cameras were because I had documented their installation."
The incident prompted her to reassess her online presence, leading to a significant reduction in content sharing and a stronger emphasis on personal privacy. Victoria discusses the psychological impact, including heightened anxiety and the realization of the potential dangers of oversharing.
Notable Quote:
Victoria (14:19): "I couldn't even imagine having kids. Or like, yeah, like that aspect, it would change everything."
Victoria delves into her relationship with Nico, whom she met through mutual friends facilitated by the app Be Real. Their relationship overcame initial hurdles, including a period of long-distance and a temporary breakup, ultimately strengthening their bond.
Notable Quote:
Victoria (08:23): "We went no contact, went about our lives, and it just happened naturally that we got back together."
Their decision to move from New York to Los Angeles was influenced by practicality and a shared desire for more space and a lifestyle that accommodates their needs, such as having a yard and privacy.
Notable Quote:
Victoria (07:49): "It's a no-brainer. I miss having a car, I miss having a yard, I miss having that privacy."
Victoria openly discusses her bisexuality, highlighting a smooth and self-discovering process without significant internal conflict or trauma.
Notable Quote:
Victoria (24:21): "I really didn't have any issue. And then I had my first partner and it just happened. Like, oh, I guess, yeah."
She emphasizes the importance of having supportive parents, noting that her coming out was met with acceptance and understanding, a privilege not everyone experiences.
Notable Quote:
Victoria (25:36): "My parents were like, 'Of course.' It was never an issue."
Victoria shares insights into her entrepreneurial spirit through her jewelry line. Originating from a successful collaboration under a partner's brand, she and her business partner, Jill, decided to launch their own brand focused on deconstructing traditional Marseille necklaces into modern pieces like ear cuffs, rings, and necklaces.
Notable Quote:
Victoria (41:38): "The inspiration was this Marseille necklace... we deconstructed the gold beads and incorporated them into every piece possible."
She candidly discusses the challenges of running a business, from dealing with tariffs to navigating economic downturns, but remains optimistic about future collections.
Notable Quote:
Victoria (43:26): "Having a business is a grind, like the tariffs, the recession."
Victoria expresses her passion for travel, particularly her affection for Marseille in the South of France and her fascination with Asian destinations like Seoul and Hokkaido. She shares dreams of exploring Australia and New Zealand, highlighting her adventurous spirit and desire to immerse herself in diverse cultures.
Notable Quote:
Victoria (44:13): "I love Seoul. I love Hokkaido. A lot of people do Tokyo, Kyoto, Osaka, but going outside of it and seeing the nature up there is really great."
As the episode wraps up, Victoria reflects on her growth and the stability she has achieved despite past challenges. She emphasizes her gratitude towards her supportive audience and the importance of maintaining balance between her online presence and personal well-being.
Notable Quote:
Victoria (37:13): "I just want them to be like, along for the ride. Like, I'm not sure where it's going, but we're going somewhere and we're together."
Avery Woods commends Victoria on her authenticity and resilience, concluding the episode on a positive note that underscores the strength of their friendship and mutual support.
Key Takeaways:
Resilience and Adaptability: Victoria's ability to pivot from a traditional career path to content creation showcases her adaptability and resilience in the face of unforeseen challenges like the pandemic and personal security threats.
Balancing Privacy and Publicity: The episode highlights the delicate balance influencers must maintain between sharing their lives and protecting their privacy, especially after experiences like Victoria's burglary.
Supportive Relationships: Victoria’s relationship with Nico serves as a testament to the strength that supportive partnerships can provide, especially during tumultuous times.
Entrepreneurial Spirit: Her success in launching a jewelry line underscores the potential for influencers to leverage their platforms into sustainable business ventures.
Personal Growth and Fulfillment: Victoria’s journey of self-discovery, from education to personal life, reflects a broader narrative of growth, acceptance, and fulfillment.
Notable Quotes Summary:
Victoria (05:04): "I started making TikToks and they just took off. I got like a million followers in six months."
Victoria (12:06): "I had really teased about my Euro summer, and then someone broke in and knew where my cameras were because I had documented their installation."
Victoria (24:21): "I really didn't have any issue. And then I had my first partner and it just happened. Like, oh, I guess, yeah."
Victoria (41:38): "The inspiration was this Marseille necklace... we deconstructed the gold beads and incorporated them into every piece possible."
This episode of CHEERS! with Avery Woods offers a rich, multifaceted exploration of Victoria Paris's life, providing valuable insights into the complexities of being an influencer, the importance of personal authenticity, and the power of supportive relationships.