single mom slay | layla taylor

Summary

CHEERS! with Avery Woods

Episode: single mom slay | layla taylor
Date: November 17, 2025
Host: Avery Woods
Guest: Layla Leanne Taylor

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Overview

In this episode, Avery Woods sits down for an honest, intimate conversation with Layla Leanne Taylor—reality TV star, influencer, and single mom. Together, they delve into Layla’s journey through divorce, single motherhood, reality TV fame, body image, friendship, and reclaiming her confidence. With refreshing candor, Layla opens up about overcoming toxic relationships, navigating co-parenting, setting boundaries around privacy, and the pressures (and perks) of being in the public eye. The discussion highlights resilience, self-advocacy, and the importance of female solidarity.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Layla’s Divorce & Toxic Marriage

[01:27–04:22]

• Layla recounts moving to Utah at 18, rushing into marriage after becoming pregnant, and entering a toxic relationship with constant fighting.
  • “It was a toxic relationship from the start. We didn't have, like, a solid foundation built. And then fought constantly our whole entire marriage over like, the littlest things. ... And we honestly hated each other.” – Layla ([01:57])
• Her ex frequently threatened divorce as a control tactic, despite Layla’s efforts to avoid repeating her own family's history with divorce.
• She finally demanded he leave and secured a divorce after a lengthy, uncontested legal process.
  • “If you're gonna keep doing this, like, actually fudge you, like, we're gonna get divorced. And I told him to get his shit and get out of my house and never look back.” – Layla ([03:15])

Navigating Co-parenting & Judgment

[04:22–06:55] | [21:21–23:12]

• Layla shares the co-parenting challenges, noting her ex criticizes her career and accuses her of neglecting their kids, calling her work "the devil's work."
  • “He calls my job the devil's work. He thinks that my show and my social media is Satan’s work.” – Layla ([04:59])
• Avery relates and condemns the double standard against working mothers, especially in the public eye.
  • “If a man was on a business trip, would you say this to them? Absolutely not. But to get shame from your own children's father is so wrong.” – Avery ([06:41])
• Both agree intentional time with kids outweighs the quantity of time, and kids will ultimately see and appreciate their mothers’ efforts.

Life After Divorce: Transformation & Growth

[06:55–08:30] | [52:45–53:59]

• Layla reflects on her evolution since Season 1 of her reality show, moving from feeling "a shell of a human" to finding her voice.
  • “I was absolutely fighting for my life every single day…and then showing up to a scene talking about girl drama. I'm sorry, that was not at the forefront of my mind.” – Layla ([07:32])
  • “I'm proud of myself going into [Season] three that I was able to speak up in rooms and …not let people talk down to me.” – Layla ([08:17])
• She discusses the impact of trauma and therapy on her confidence and ability to advocate for herself.
• “I think I'm just able to advocate for myself more. I feel like I'm finally finding my voice and being able to speak up and just be more true to who I am. I feel like I've always been this but just been too scared to show it.” – Layla ([52:45])

Sex, Body Image & Normalizing Women’s Experiences

[08:30–16:38]

• Layla candidly discusses having never experienced an orgasm with a prior partner and the overwhelming resonance from women who related.
  • “I had thousands of DMs from women being like ‘I experienced this. I've been married for 20 years. Still haven't…thank you for talking about this.’” – Layla ([08:58])
• Lively talk on normalizing sexual needs, vibrators, and the gendered double standard around discussing female pleasure.
• Both get real about postpartum bodies, plastic surgery (tummy tuck, boob job, nose job), and scrutiny from the public.
  • “If we don't say anything, then we're lying…Damned if you do, damned if you don't.” – Avery ([17:34])
  • “It's her body. Why do you care what this woman is doing with her body?” – Layla ([16:13])

Privacy & Boundaries in the Digital Age

[23:24–27:17]

• Layla describes a harrowing breach of privacy when a cleaning company’s employee posted photos inside her home (including her kids’ faces) on social media, and items went missing.
  • “You're in my bedroom or just like my safe place…you're not going to do anything to, like, test my kids.” – Layla ([25:45], [27:09])
• The discussion turns to NDAs, mom instincts, and protecting children from the darker side of internet fame.
  • “My priority at the end of the day: I'll be the biggest mama bear…you're not going to do anything to, like, test my kids.” – Layla ([27:09])

Life in the Spotlight & Reality TV Dynamics

[28:03–44:15]

• Inside look at cast shakeups, producer manipulation, “truth-telling” on set, friendships, feuds, and the challenge of being authentic on reality TV.
  • “When you're on this experience, you need to realize that your dirty laundry is going to come out at some point.” – Layla ([30:07])
• Layla previews Season Three as “chaotic, surprising, and questions” ([30:46]) and discusses being unfairly labeled “boring” in earlier seasons due to personal struggles.
• Breakdowns of friendships and drama, especially regarding the Jesse/Marciano affair situation (starting [31:26]).
• Social media’s effect on self-image; Layla and Avery highlight the specific pressures on women and the need for candid conversations about motherhood, sex, and surgery.

Friendship, Forgiveness & Setting Boundaries

[53:54–54:31] | [38:19–41:43]

• Layla talks candidly about why she’s not friends with Demi anymore and what she’s learned about forgiveness and grace.
  • “We're human and we're all gonna fuck up…just know that that was, like, a little girl or at one point in their life, and they're still learning just like I am, and just try to give people grace.” – Layla ([53:59])
  • “For a long time, everyone in this group would always excuse Demi's behavior …[but] it's the same thing...you see the patterns again. ...At this point, it's almost a character flaw.” – Layla ([40:26])

Handling Criticism & Remaining Authentic

[44:15–45:09] | [50:16–51:59]

• Layla remains steadfast about being honest, undeterred by online hate and cancel culture.
  • “If you don’t like me for what I say, then sorry, there’s somebody else out there that does. And if it doesn’t serve you, then that’s great, but I’m serving myself by being true to who I am.” – Layla ([44:58])
• Avery and Layla agree on the value of authenticity, especially for mothers breaking the “Real Housewives” mold as self-made providers.
• “Anyone watching it could do what they did. They could all start social media. They could all make a shit ton of money and support their kids.” – Avery ([51:45])

Opportunities, Dreams & Looking Ahead

[54:31–55:28]

• Layla reflects on career highlights, from walking Swim Week to collaborating with CupShe.
• She shares her ambition to pursue full-time modeling and dreams of being a runway model.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Divorce & Empowerment:
  • “I told him to get his shit and get out of my house and never look back.” – Layla ([03:15])
• On Working Moms & Double Standards:
  • “If a man was on a business trip, would you say this to them? Absolutely not. But to get shame from your own children's father is so wrong.” – Avery ([06:41])
• On Speaking Up After Trauma:
  • “I was a shell of a human season one…Now I finally do…and I don’t know how to shut up, actually.” – Layla ([07:32], [31:12])
• On Women’s Sexuality:
  • “No woman talks about like the lack of ability to have an orgasm...It’s so common and so many women experience it.” – Layla ([08:52])
• On Plastic Surgery & Public Scrutiny:
  • “Usually it’s people that are pissed that she looks so hot. Same with you.” – Avery ([16:38])
• On Privacy Breaches:
  • “It was her overlay on the Snapchat…in the background are these huge family photos of your kids' faces.” – Avery ([24:33])
• On Forgiveness and Friendship:
  • “We're human and we're all gonna fuck up...try to give people grace.” – Layla ([53:59])
• On Authenticity:
  • “I try to honestly show up as real as I can. I feel like who I am on TV is who I am in real life to a limit.” – Layla ([50:16])

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Season 3 Preview & Cast Dynamics

[28:03–32:49]

• Cast shake-ups: Whitney and Demi left, Miranda’s status is uncertain, and Jen is taking a break, leading to a “very unsettled” on-screen dynamic.
• Layla is seen as a “truth teller” but says most cast relationships are stable, especially with bestie Miranda.
• Season Three is described as “chaotic, surprising, and questions” ([30:46]).
• The big cliffhanger: Jesse’s alleged affair, the fallout, and the ethical challenges when reality TV collides with real life.
  • “If you have skeletons in your closet, you need to be okay with them being on the show and coming to light. And if you’re not, then this world isn’t for you.” – Layla ([30:07])

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Personal Life, Relationships, and Fame

[34:21–38:19]

• Layla confirms she's now dating Mason (her friend’s ex-husband’s brother) and explains why it isn’t complicated despite the overlap.
  • “Went on maybe, like, three dates in total [with Chase, the brother]. Obviously had sex a couple times, but it was never anything, like, deep. …That’s why I feel like it was fine for me and Mason.” – Layla ([36:17])
• Life in the spotlight makes Layla hyper-conscious of privacy, intentions behind relationships, future planning for her kids, and fame’s perks (and challenges).

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Faith, Values & Confidence

[43:53–45:09]

• Layla, a convert to Mormonism, now describes her beliefs as spiritual more than religious.
  • “I feel like I'm more spiritually driven than anything. ... We live on a floating rock, and I just try not to think too much into it, honestly.” – Layla ([43:58])
• She’s steadfast about saying what’s on her mind.
  • “I think everyone's gonna hate you. Even if you do everything right and you try to appease everybody...what purpose are you doing for yourself?” – Layla ([44:37])

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Rapid Fire & Fun

[55:43–60:56]

• Favorite coffee: Venti iced blonde white mocha with no whip ([55:49])
• Go-to good mood song: "Buttons" by Pussycat Dolls ([56:30])
• Biggest mom hack: “Screen time. You need a break.” ([58:00])
• Reality show she'd join: Kardashians or Traitors ([59:50])
• Dream girls’ trip location: Somewhere tropical, like Mexico or Tulum ([60:18])

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Timestamps for Notable Segments

• [01:27] – Layla’s marriage, divorce, and boundaries
• [06:55] – Reclaiming self and thriving after divorce
• [08:30] – Women’s pleasure and body talk
• [23:24] – House privacy breach, NDAs, and protecting kids
• [30:46] – “Three words to describe Season Three”
• [31:26–32:49] – Jesse/Marciano affair revelation and fallout
• [40:26] – Why Layla distanced from Demi
• [43:58] – Faith, spirituality, and authenticity
• [52:45] – Growth and self-advocacy
• [55:43] – Rapid fire favorites and mom tips

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Final Notes

This episode offers an unfiltered look at the ever-complex reality of being a single mom, a public figure, and a woman supporting herself and her family, all while navigating the sometimes cutthroat world of reality TV. Layla’s vulnerability, humor, and strength shine through, offering hope and solidarity to anyone facing judgment or big life changes.

Connect with Layla:
Instagram: @laylaleannetaylor

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End of Summary

Transcript

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Hello.

[Host Avery Woods]

How are you? I'm so good.

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

How are you?

[Host Avery Woods]

I'm so good, and I'm so excited that you're here. Thank you for having me because you're an open book.

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

I am.

[Host Avery Woods]

And we sat down and I said, what's off limits? And you said, nothing. So I'm going to hold you to that.

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

Hey, ask me the world.

[Host Avery Woods]

Okay, well, first I want to know why you got divorced.

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

Oh, God.

[Host Avery Woods]

Like, off.

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

Off running.

[Host Avery Woods]

I. The only reason I asked you that, and I literally just wrote that down, is because I have something completely different in my intro, but I was like, you know what? I was driving here and I was like, I don't remember specifically you talking about it. You talked about small things, but how long were you married?

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

So we were married a little over three years.

[Host Avery Woods]

You have two babies. Yeah. And what started all of that?

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

So we met when I first moved down to Utah. So I moved when I there when I was 19. And we met immediately after that. No, sorry. 18. Met immediately after that week after I moved there. And the relationship was, like, kind of good in the beginning, but then it got very, very toxic very fast. And then we got pregnant a year after we met. So I was 19. And then we kind of were just in a place where we're like, hey, like, do we get married? Do we not? Like, we. What do we do here? Got engaged and then got married two months after finding I was pregnant. So kind of rushed everything. And it was a toxic relationship from the start. We didn't have, like a solid foundation built. And then fought constantly her whole entire marriage over, like, the littlest things. It's just like, we're roommates. And then got pregnant three months after I had my first head. So then it was another kid and another postpartum. But then now being pregnant again, it's just like, I feel like we were just coexisting and we honestly hated each other. Yeah. Fought 24 7. About just the dumbest things, like, if I didn't take out the trash or, like, if just everything was like, an argument. And it was so toxic and so bad. And he was the one that was actually always threatening divorce on me. And I think it was almost like a control tactic. And he knew that I would get scared and kind of, like, cower down to him in a way. And that was the opposite of what I wanted for myself because I came from divorced family. And, like, I know how hard that is to, like, grow up with two households and everything. And that was like, my biggest fear was having to, you know, put my kids through that and have a broken family. And. Yeah, he just threatened it when. Too many times for me, and I was like, hey, like, if you're gonna keep doing this, like, actually fudge you, like, we're gonna get divorced. And I told him to get a shit and get out of my house and never look back. So.

[Host Avery Woods]

Wow. How long has it been since it was finalized?

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

May of this year.

[Host Avery Woods]

Damn.

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

Yeah. So we were in. We were separated for a year and a half. Not living together. Like, when I told him, like, get out. Like, get all your stuff, like, he never moved back to none of that. He got his own place and things, and he just would not sign the paperwork. I don't know why to this day. I would constantly, like, ask him, and he would do his things. I was like, oh, I want to fight for our family. Like, I want our family back. Blah, blah, blah. But it was never, like, anything serious. It was always just, like, little comments like that. So I don't know what made him not want to sign anything, but it took so much. I had to, like, go and have the lawyers go to the back end way that it's like an uncontested divorce, that they have to, like, sign everything for them in a way, and the lawyers have to sign off on it and then, like, the courts and stuff. So it was just like, the most lengthy process for no reason.

[Host Avery Woods]

Damn. Are you active in the church? Is he?

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

Yeah.

[Host Avery Woods]

So he wants his family just because.

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

Of that background that I don't know, because he just Claims that he loved me and just like all these things, but they just like. I don't think it was love. I think it was control. I think it was he didn't want to have to like date again or like search and it was just like comfortable, almost like we're together so might as well just like stay together. Sure thing. Sure. But it wasn't love.

[Host Avery Woods]

Yeah. And obviously he was the one threatening to divorce all the time, but do you think that he was then saying he wants his family back because your life drastically changed and kind of blew.

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

Up and it's really hard for him, I think. I don't know, I can't speak for him, but the comments he's making, even just me going on this business trip right now, it's like, you need to be a mom. You're not being a good mom recently. You haven't been showing up for the kids recently. It's just weird cuz it's like I'm trying to give our kids a good life that, sorry to be frank, you otherwise would not be able to provide for them. And I'm busting my ass every day. And like he calls my do my job the devil's work. He thinks that my show and my social media is Satan's work and all these things. So it's. It's just odd because it's like I don't feel like anything I'm doing is bad. I'm just vulnerable and I open up about things that like otherwise people maybe wouldn't, but I feel like I'm helping people and I'm proud of my job every day. And again, I'm giving my kids a damn good life that he wouldn't be able to. So I'm proud of myself.

[Host Avery Woods]

And you should be.

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

Yeah. So it's just. He'll always kind of talk down me. That's just kind of the person that he is, unfortunately.

[Host Avery Woods]

You should be proud of yourself. And also I get really bothered when people will say, you know, what you're doing is the devil work, or that's evil. You're not a good. In my eyes, I think it comes down to, are you a good human being? Are. Do you care for others? Are you a loving person? Are you loyal? Has nothing to do with posting a bikini pic on Instagram, you know, But I think people confuse that and it makes me sad. But I want to tell you because I get the same shit as well, but more so from like millions of people that don't know me. You're never with your kids. You Ne. You're traveling all the time. I am the sole provider for my family. My husband's a stay at home dad. We just talk about this. I don't have a nanny. I don't have a babysitter. Like, when I'm gone, they're with their dad. And I always say the same thing. If a man was on a business trip, would you say this to them? Absolutely not. But to get shame from your own children's father is so wrong. So I'm sorry.

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

It's okay. But it's a bummer.

[Host Avery Woods]

You're killing it.

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

Thank you.

[Host Avery Woods]

You should be so proud of yourself. How are you feeling? How's life? Like everything has changed so much for you recently.

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

Yeah, it's crazy. I feel like I pinch myself every day that this is my life and that I get these op. Some opportunities and I get to come on podcasts with people that I love, and it's just. It's so cool. I never thought this would ever be me. And I'm just so grateful. I think that this is such a dream life to live. And I'm. There's hard parts, for sure. Like, every job has negatives, and it's hard being in the limelight and having people comment on your looks and who you are and you know, your personality when they don't even know you. And it's difficult. But ultimately, I feel like I'm living my dream life and I'm just so grateful.

[Host Avery Woods]

You deserve it. Looking back on who Layla was during season one, how do you think you're different now?

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

Oh, polar opposite, really. I was a shell of a human season one, and I feel like people always will make comments online like, she doesn't talk. She's boring. I was in the midst of my divorce, and that's something that they didn't end up showing on the show. But I was, I think, two months separated from my husband. When we started filming, like, with two little, little babies, I was absolutely fighting for my life every single day. And then showing up to a scene talking about girl drama. I'm sorry, that was not at the forefront of my mind. And yes, I didn't speak up in scenes because I was suffering. I was not doing well. And I feel like that's, like, the context that people, like, miss. Sometimes when people say that I'm boring or I didn't speak up or I don't know how to handle confrontation. Yeah, Like, I had a very traumatic childhood where I don't know how sometimes to respond to high tense situations. And I definitely showed that season one and season two. So I'm really proud of myself going into three that I was able to speak up in rooms and you know, share what's on my mind and not let people like talk down to me. So it's definitely been a lot of trauma work to get to like where I am right now. But I'm proud of myself.

[Host Avery Woods]

You should be. So in the earlier seasons you had a boyfriend, what was his name again?

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

Cameron.

[Host Avery Woods]

Cameron, yeah. Had an orgasm?

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

No, no, not with him.

[Host Avery Woods]

Not with him.

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

Okay.

[Host Avery Woods]

I'm sure that's probably why your ex husband also gets pissed about you being on TV because he's like tough tits.

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

You couldn't make me come? Sorry, I can't. I should be able to talk about it.

[Host Avery Woods]

You should be able to. Also no woman talks about like the lack of ability to have an orgasm.

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

Because of partner common. The amount of DMS I got after I talked about that in season one. Cuz I feel like I was just like oh this is such a small thing. Like no one's going to like care that I like said this. I had thousands of DMs from women being like I experienced this. I've been married for 20 years. Still haven't like thank you for talking about this but I'm like I thought it was going to be so embarrassing to like not have any type of like impact. But it's so common and so many women experience it. So I'm happy that I was able to talk about it.

[Host Avery Woods]

I, I've been linking on Amazon for like I don't even know, six or eight years and my number one seller is my vibrator.

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

I love it.

[Host Avery Woods]

Like I, I'm, I'm like let me do my statistics for sex. So I read a statistic that said only 30% of women can have an orgasm with only penetration with no clit stimulation. So 70% of women are not having orgasms unless their clit's being messed with. Which is why we all need vibrators.

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

Yeah, like oh 1000%.

[Host Avery Woods]

I love that we're all talking about this. It's so important. Normalize it.

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

I feel like it matters too. Like I feel like it's so for a long time I feel like sex was just for the guy and that's what I had in my brain. Cuz like when they obviously come they have something that's like physical that like you can see. Like they, you obviously know that they're having a great time. But like for me I was just like oh, like as long as like he Gets to that point, like, I should be enjoying sex. Like, it's fine.

[Host Avery Woods]

Which. It's not the devil's work if a man's talking about it.

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

Yeah.

[Host Avery Woods]

Do you know what I'm saying?

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

Amen.

[Host Avery Woods]

Because I'm like, sorry, you need three strokes and then you're jizzing everywhere. Like, sorry, it takes more for us.

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

A lot more.

[Host Avery Woods]

Yeah. Everyone here is laughing. They're like, what the fuck? Okay. So obviously Cameron was on the show and got some screen time. What ended up happening with that relationship.

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

So he dumped me. Like, I think it was like two weeks after cameras went down.

[Host Avery Woods]

You're kidding.

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

Just broke up. And he's like, I just don't see, like, long term, us working out. Like, I just don't see, like, yeah, I don't see this going anywhere. And I was like, huh? Like, interesting. It's so weird. It's like a month into us dating, you were like telling me that you wanted to pick out engagement rings and you wanted to look at wedding venues. And now you don't see a future with me. That's, that's odd. But I think ultimately it was for the best. I feel like he, me and him wouldn't have worked out. And I do see that now. But in the moment I was like, obviously, like heartbroken. Yes. This was someone that I was bringing around my kids and like, you know, was very present in my life for a good chunk of time right there. So it was really hard. But yeah, we wouldn't have worked out. I feel like there was a lot there that didn't really match up. Right. And I feel like now I'm aware of, like, how important it is to have a lot in common with your partner. Because at first I was like, oh, that doesn't matter. Like, as long as, like, you get along, like, that's, that's the most important thing. Like, no, like, you need to have similarities to who you're with.

[Host Avery Woods]

Totally. And it's different when you have kids. Like, you're like, I don't have time to waste. This is so important. How old are your kids now?

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

4 and 3.

[Host Avery Woods]

That time, that age gap.

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

13 months.

[Host Avery Woods]

Dude.

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

I know.

[Host Avery Woods]

I was like, I felt like I was struggling at 2 year, 7 month age gap.

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

It's hard.

[Host Avery Woods]

You are a queen.

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

Thank you.

[Host Avery Woods]

And you look incredible too. You walked. Was it swim week?

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

Yeah.

[Host Avery Woods]

Holy. Two kids in 13 months, that's nuts.

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

I mean, a tummy tuck and all the things got me there.

[Host Avery Woods]

Wait, you got a tummy tuck?

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

Holy.

[Host Avery Woods]

I didn't know this okay, so you got. Obviously, you got your boobs down, which they look iconic. I would never.

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

Okay, really?

[Host Avery Woods]

Now I need to know for my own sake, because I recently lost, like, I don't know, 15 or so pounds. And I'm so proud of myself, but also, like, the more weight I lose, the more loose skin I have. And I was a monster when I was pregnant. Like, I was a big girl.

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

I put on a lot of weight.

[Host Avery Woods]

Yeah, me too. I was like, oh, I remember when I gave birth to Ste or to Ziggy, and that morning I was £211. I had, like, sausage toes. They were so swollen.

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

Being a woman is so fun.

[Host Avery Woods]

No, literally, I always say, like, I belonged at SeaWorld. Like, I was so huge. I was, like, rolling out of bed everywhere, like. Like, making that noise. So then when I had my kids, I breastfed for a long time, so it was hard for me to lose weight because I was the type of person that held onto my weight until I leaned.

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

Yeah.

[Host Avery Woods]

So then when I started losing weight, I was like, okay, great. Like, I'm thinner now, but I have so much loose skin. So I really wanted a tummy tuck because I already have a C section scar anyway. But I was like, I don't want that fucked up looking. Yeah, belly button. Yours does not look really fucked up.

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

I hate mine.

[Host Avery Woods]

I never thought you had a tummy tuck.

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

Really?

[Host Avery Woods]

Even seeing you in a million bikinis, I'm telling you, I thought you only got your boobs done.

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

Wait, shut up.

[Host Avery Woods]

Yeah.

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

I feel like I used to get so many clumps about my belly button.

[Host Avery Woods]

No, I was like, damn, her stomach looks incredible for having kids. I had no idea it was. Can you show me your scar later?

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

Yes, I will. It's like, hip to hip, so it's pretty big. But they cut it in the way that, like. Because you can either have it go flat like this, but I wear a lot of bikinis that go up, and that's, like, more common. So I was like, I wanted to go, like, a little bit more upwards. And honestly, like, it healed amazing.

[Host Avery Woods]

Did you get it done? Did you do a full mommy makeover?

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

No. So I did my tummy tuck, my nose job at the same time.

[Host Avery Woods]

You got. Okay. I'm sorry.

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

I'm so behind.

[Host Avery Woods]

I've done so many things. I'm like, no job, twin dude. Yours looks so good, too.

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

It was so minor. I just, like, wanted, like, the smallest little, like, tweak done to, like, just, like, the tip of my nose. And I was like, if I'm already under for the tummy tuck. Just go on in there.

[Host Avery Woods]

100. How was your recovery with the tummy tuck?

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

Not bad at all.

[Host Avery Woods]

Okay.

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

It was like, honestly, because I didn't have a lot of loose skin and I didn't have a lot or it had a more loose skin than I had, like, fat. It was just sewing my abs back together a little bit and then cutting off the skin. So it was. I was up and moving probably like three days post op. I bet you would be like that too. Because if you're really fit.

[Host Avery Woods]

Yeah.

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

It's going to be a lot easier for recovery.

[Host Avery Woods]

I also heard the hardest part about having a tummy tuck is, like, sitting up straight. But we experienced that with our C sections. Like, I was walking hunched over for so long because that.

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

Yeah, Cut.

[Host Avery Woods]

Yeah. So I'm like, no.

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

The first couple days, you definitely are waddling. You're a little old lady. But it's not. It's not as bad as people make it out to be.

[Host Avery Woods]

When did you get all this done?

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

This was after season one.

[Host Avery Woods]

Yeah. Really?

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

Yeah. So season one, I did the boob job, and then like a month after that, I did the tummy tuck in the nose job.

[Host Avery Woods]

Good for you. Honestly, it's like sometimes when I do stuff, I'm like, what else could I get done? Like, if you're going to put me under anesthesia, what else could we knock out and nip and tuck? You know what I'm saying?

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

It's hard, especially being on reality tv. I feel like you nitpick yourself so bad. And I feel like I love my boobs and I love my tummy tuck. Sometimes I regret my nose job, and I wish I would have maybe left it.

[Host Avery Woods]

Really?

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

Yeah. Because I just feel like I started to, like, eat myself apart. Not eat myself, pick myself.

[Host Avery Woods]

Oh, yeah, pick yourself apart on tv.

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

I was, like, watching. I was like, oh, my God, I'm ugly.

[Host Avery Woods]

I will say, like, I. I've told this story a million times, so sorry to my listeners that have heard it, but I didn't even realize I had a big bump on my nose until a girl on my volleyball team like, mentioned it to me. And then it bothered me ever since. And I think I was, like 15 or 16, but I was fine with it until I started doing social media for my career. And I would edit. I do all my own editing. So I was, like, constantly looking at myself in makeup videos or morning vlogs or whatever it was. And I was like, damn, that really pisses me off. But I always Say like, if I wasn't on social media, I probably wouldn't have done it. I also wouldn't have been able to afford it.

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

No, it's true. I feel like seeing yourself in a light and having to literally stare at your face for hours and hours a day, you definitely do start to like pick yourself apart and notice your flaws and things like that. Even though there might not be, but at the end of the day, like, it is your body and if it makes you happy, do it. I think people are so up in arms about what us women do, especially on our show. Like Jessie, she gets so many comments of people just hating on her for plastic surgery. I'm like, it's her body. Why do you care what this woman is doing with her body? Literally? And so odd to me.

[Host Avery Woods]

Usually it's people that are pissed that she looks so hot. Same with you. Like they're just pissed because you have kids 13 months apart, shredded your on a Runway in a bikini and look hot as. So I know I always have the conversation with people of it's so interesting when we're so open about work we've had done because I've documented everything I've ever gotten done and people hold that against me all the time. Like, I didn't, like, I don't work out five days a week and like eat really healthy and have like put so much effort into changing my body, they're automatically like, it's oic, it's liposuction, it's whatever. And I'm like, I got my work done like what, two, almost three years ago. And I'm like, it wasn't until this last year that I really made a lifestyle difference. But then I think about the other side of if we don't say anything, then we're lying because like, look at these huge celebrities that obviously have had so much work done but don't talk about it. So it's like, which one you want?

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

I know. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

[Host Avery Woods]

Always.

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

You literally can't win in this world. You really double edged.

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[Layla Leanne Taylor]

Sword.

[Host Avery Woods]

What's your custody arrangement, by the way?

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

It's 50 50. But he works a car dealership job. So he has like really weird hours that even if it's technically not my legal day, I'll watch them for him when he's working. So it's like the same thing. Like I have like a daddy when I'm at this job and like things like that that I have to have one. But then when I'm home, like, I'm just with my kids all the time because I'm like, I'm not going to have a nanny raise my baby as if, like, I'm home. And he's kind of like understood that. But he does give me shit sometimes. Every. Every time I leave town.

[Host Avery Woods]

But yeah, I always say too, with co parenting, like, the only opinion that matters is the kids. And your kids will watch you work.

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

Exactly.

[Host Avery Woods]

And provide an incredible life for them. And they won't understand it now. And it doesn't matter what he says to them in his house, but they will see what you do for them.

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

And I feel like also parenting, it's so much more important to have intentional parenting time.

[Host Avery Woods]

Absolutely.

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

Because I feel like, yes, there's times that I'm gone and I'm gone for a couple days, but like when I get home, I put my Phone away. Like, I sit down face to face with them. Okay, we're gonna color, we're gonna play with cars, we're gonna do whatever you want to do for the next couple hours. And I feel like that means so much more than like me half assing parenting. I feel if I was like home all the time and I'm like, I'm having to do work that's on my phone. They're like, you know what I mean? So I like, I don't know, I feel like the way you spend your time with your kids is so much more important than how much time.

[Advertiser/Supporting Voice]

I agree.

[Host Avery Woods]

I. My goal is always on the weekdays to have my work completely done and wrapped when my kids are home from school. Because every single morning, David and I drop them off together. So we do their mornings together, drop them off, and then I work. Like, I literally went home today, I was telling you, I filmed an ad, got here. But, like, we can be completely wrapped when they're home because it's intentional time.

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

Exactly.

[Host Avery Woods]

Like, people don't see that. And they always love to say, like, you're always on your phone, but they don't see.

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

Yeah, they don't see what you're doing. It's unfortunate that our job is on our phone. I mean, it's great. Yeah. Because then you can throw your phone away at the end of the day and, like, you don't have to worry about it. But yeah, it's. It's an interesting world.

[Host Avery Woods]

I don't even scroll anymore. Like, I'm so fried. Yeah. At the end of the day, being on my phone, like, I don't even know what's going on in the world with people.

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

And that's the best part about it, though, is that you can.

[Host Avery Woods]

Okay, so there was something you share on your close friends and you don't have to talk about this. We can bleep it. But it was the people that cleaned your house.

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

Oh, my God. Yeah.

[Host Avery Woods]

Will you talk about that? Because when you posted that, it made me sick to my stomach because I've had situations like this and what made me the most upset for you was that you don't show your kids. So explain that situation a little bit.

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

So basically there's a cleaning company that reached out to me and I saw that they previously worked with Macy and they're like, hey, like, we'd love to, like, come, like, clean your house. And if you just post a story. And I was like, hell yeah. Like, mama loves a clean house. Come on in, clean it. And I normally work with cleaners, but I'm like, if I can get one for free. And I have to post a story, like, sign me up. That's amazing. So I had them come in. They had. They cleaned my house and they did, like a great job. From what I could see, like, it looked great. And then later that day, I was like, looking through my request on Instagram and I got a couple messages from multiple women being like, hey, like, just so you know, like, I follow this girl. She's posting your house and like, videos inside of your bedroom to her to her Snapchat story. I just thought you should know. And I messaged him and I was like, hey, like, just so you know, like, your employees posting this of, like, my bedroom. And all they said was like, oh, sorry about that, we'll text her. And I was like, well, it wasn't just that though.

[Host Avery Woods]

It was her overlay on the Snapchat and was like, omg, just clean Layla's house From Secret Lives and More Wise Mormon Wives. But in the background are these huge family photos of your kids faces. Yes.

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

And I don't post them, so that's. I don't know. It was disrespectful to my boys, but it's also like, you're in my bedroom or just like my safe place. And then I started to, like, overthink of, like, maybe she was like, going through, like, my drawers and like, saw like, I have like a full on, like, sex drawer that has like a bunch of freaking vibrators in there. So I'm like, were you, like, looking through, like, my too? It's just so uncomfortable. And I feel like the part too, that pissed me off the most was that, yes, that happened. But it was like I messaged him. I was like, hey, just so you know, this happened. It wasn't even like, I'm so sorry, like, what can we do? Like, we're terminating this employee. And then I also noticed that I had a bunch of stuff missing. And I'm an OCD freak. I know where I put everything in my house. Like, I could name something in my room and tell someone to go grab it and they would know exactly where it is and they could bring it to me. I'm such a freak about everything I have. And I had multiple pieces of clothing that were like brand new, had tags on them that just like, went missing. I'm like, okay, that's not like a coincidence.

[Host Avery Woods]

Yeah.

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

And I asked about that too. And I was like, hey, like, do you know maybe where she like, put these? And they told me specifically where it was. Couldn't find it. To this day, I haven't found it. I went through my whole entire closet recently because I, like, reorganized some things in my house. Still haven't found them. So it's just, like, things like that that I'm like, I gave you the chance to, like, be a good person. And, like, I don't know. It's not that I wanted this girl to get, like, fired, but it was just, like, there's no remorse behind it that I was like, you just completely invaded my privacy. And also, the video she took showed, like, a pan outside of my window.

[Host Avery Woods]

It did. So it showed, like, the. My location of where you.

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

Where I lived. And I live by myself with my two kids. I'm a single mom. I don't have a way to defend myself. Someone breaks into my house, like, I'm.

[Host Avery Woods]

You also don't show your kids online.

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

I don't show my kids.

[Host Avery Woods]

So she exposed your children's faces, the privacy of your home, and. And theft. Crazy. Do you know what's funny is people think I'm so psycho for making everyone sign NDAs, but that's the exact reason I literally have a joke that I'm like, if you step over my threshold, you will sign an NDA, as you should. I don't have people in my house. And people are like, I am, like, the hosting house. But even when, like, I want to have my friends over, like, hey, can my friend so and so come over? And I've never met them. No. And that might make me sound psycho, but I don't know people's intentions.

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

You don't?

[Host Avery Woods]

I don't need to monitor what people are doing on their phones and they're in my house. Like, it just made me sick for you.

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

Yeah, no, it was the worst. And after that, I started doing the same thing. Now. I hired new cleaning people, obviously, and both of them sign NDAs. And, like, literally anyone again, that's around my personal things, my nanny, my assistant, everything about. They sign ideas because you just can't trust people. And it sucks that we live in a world that you can't trust, but I feel like ultimately, when it comes down to it, but you feel the same way. We're protecting our babies. It's not even protecting me. Like, I could give two shits about me at this point. It's protecting my kids that didn't sign up for this world.

[Host Avery Woods]

Yep.

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

And they didn't consent to be part of all this craziness. And my priority at the end of the day. I'll be the biggest mama bear to the day I die. Like, you're not going to do anything to, like, test my kids.

[Host Avery Woods]

Yeah, I agree. We had that where when Ziggy was in kindergarten in Arizona, he was at a public school, and people leaked where he went to school. And I was like, see, this is my issue is anyone can walk on that campus. And with school shootings and stuff, it's just people don't think about that kind of thing. And so that was a huge decision for David and I, when we moved here, was to put them in private school security.

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

Amazing.

[Host Avery Woods]

Because I just. It's not a risk I'm willing to take because you're right. They didn't sign up to be in this world, and they're just normal little kids.

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

They don't understand too, like, the gravity of, like, the amount of people we post to every day. And then now the reach of, like, my show and things like that. Like, it's amazing that our show gets millions and millions of views, but that's also millions and millions of people that are seeing my life every day, and they don't. They don't need to see my babies.

[Host Avery Woods]

Yeah.

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

You know, I agree.

[Host Avery Woods]

Yeah. Okay. So going into this season, there's some drama and shakeups. So Whitney and Demi left. Mom talk. Miranda status is tbd. Jen's taking a break. How did this shift energy on. On set?

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

It was weird because the coming and going, I feel like, makes the show always just feel very unsettled in a way, because we have the girls that will come back for opportunities and then leave because drama happens and their names being said a certain way and story lines look a certain way. And it's just. It's difficult because I feel like already we're in a very high tent situation. Being on reality TV is very hard on you, mentally and physically in just a lot of ways. And then to have it feel very shaken up and abrupt all the time is also hard because you feel like you finally feel settled with the cast, and then something happens, and it's just. It's hard. I wish that some of the women would just, like, either stay or go, you know, it's like the coming and going that I just. I can't. I don't have the patience for anymore, honestly.

[Host Avery Woods]

Yeah. And how. How do you decide, like, where. When you're gonna film and with who? When everyone's kind of scattered, like, will they just come in when they're wanting to film or, like, with people that they associate with?

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

Yeah, so normally I can't speak for some of the women, but, like, they'll put us in scenes. They'll text me, like, hey, like, I need you and Miranda to come to this place today, and you guys are gonna film and maybe talk about this. And it's always kind of random if those girls that do leave, like, when Demi showed up randomly, like, we don't know. So it's normally the producers are the ones that are, like, in the know, and then they kind of get like, our authentic reactions in situations. But, yeah, I feel like people they know, like, who are safe places are to film, like, safe people, I would.

[Host Avery Woods]

Say to, like, open up to, but. Well, you're like the truth teller, though. You're the one that's like, but you and I have that in common where we're direct.

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

Yes.

[Host Avery Woods]

Like, I don't have time to waste. And I feel like when you've found out certain information or heard things, you're like, actually, that's not true. So how. How does that affect your relationship with the girls? Do you think that they are more closed off with you?

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

I don't think so. I feel like I have a pretty good relationship with all of the women. And I also just think that when you're on this experience, you need to realize that, like, your dirty laundry is going to come out at some point. And if you have skeletons in your closet, you need to be okay with them being on the show and coming to light. And if you're not, then this world isn't for you. Yeah. So I feel like the girls aren't necessarily like that with me, just because I know. I don't know. I just feel like you just have to be aware that it's going to come out and maybe, I don't know, maybe the girls are close off of me. I feel like me and Miranda, that's my best friend, and I feel like that's the one person that I know for sure will always have my back and vice versa. But I don't know. I've never really felt like that from any of the girls.

[Host Avery Woods]

Okay, without giving anything away, how would you describe the vibes of season three in three words?

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

Oh, my God. That. I'm just kidding. Chaotic, surprising. And questions. I feel like you're still gonna leave with questions every season. Somehow. We leave often. More questions.

[Host Avery Woods]

I know. You're like, oh, my God, the last episode. Come on. Okay. What do you think audiences are going to be most surprised by this season?

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

Ooh, I think they just see a different side of me. I feel like for so long, my comments have been filled with people being like, oh, she's boring. She can't stand up for herself. Like, she doesn't speak up, blah, blah, blah. Now I finally do, and I don't know how to shut up, actually. So probably seen a different side of me, which is great.

[Host Avery Woods]

Okay. Season two ended on a major note. You went to confront Marciano.

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

Yes.

[Host Avery Woods]

Is that how you say his name? Marciano.

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

Marciano.

[Host Avery Woods]

Okay. After hearing he and Jesse might have had an affair.

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

Yes.

[Host Avery Woods]

You thought he was going to bring up Demi and said he drops a bomb. So what was going through your head at that moment?

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

Oh, I was so shocked. I truly thought that he was gonna say, like, something happened between him and to me, because at that point, we were all kind of, like, maybe convinced because, again, like, there was just, like, a lot that happened in the villa that was weird for a married woman to be doing, you know, So I honestly thought that he was gonna be like, oh, yeah, like, me and Demi smooched here or something. And then when he said it was about Jesse, I was like, there's no way. Because I just feel like Jesse's a very. She thinks a lot of things out. She thinks, like, a thousand steps ahead. And I think that's because she's such a business. This, like, driven person that she always thinks of, like, the effect that situations can have. So when I heard it was Jesse, I was like, there's no way. Like, she's not, like, dumb enough to do that, you know? But then knowing, like, the context of the situation and why she did what she did and, like, how emotionally drained she was and how she just wanted validation, I'm like, okay, like, I can see that. And now knowing more context, too, about Jordan and Jesse's relationship and how, you know, emotionally abused she was for such a long time. I can understand why she got to that level that she did.

[Host Avery Woods]

And like you were saying with the skeletons in the closet, I feel like being a thought out person, like you were saying, but the show already being live, and then they went on the. That other show. I feel like she probably was like, yeah, people are probably gonna find this out at some point.

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

Yeah, well, she. Season two, you can see that she, like, lied about it when we were doing the truth box, and she was like, why would I ever do that? Like, I think she just maybe thought it would never come out. Maybe she thought that truly Marciano was being honest when he was like, like, this will never come out. This is our secret. And maybe she believed Him? I don't know. He's never.

[Host Avery Woods]

Now her. Marciano.

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

Are they.

[Host Avery Woods]

Do they talk?

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

No, I don't. I don't think so. From what I've heard, they haven't spoken in months.

[Host Avery Woods]

Damn.

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

I know.

[Host Avery Woods]

Do you feel like you were put in an unfair position with all the information?

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

No, not necessarily. I do think it was a hard position to be put in because then the girls were pressuring me to tell them, and I was like, okay, this is, like, this isn't just me telling you that, like, Jesse won something or, like, she has a cool, like, brand deal or something cool like that. Like, this is, like, something that can ruin her whole entire, like, image and, like, her marriage. And I know how badly, you know, infidel infidelity and a marriage can hurt your kids. That's something that I experienced from my parents growing up, and I know how much that affected me. So I was like, this isn't something that I'm going to take lightly. And it was hard, but I think ultimately I just wanted to let Jesse know and then have her handle it, because at the end of the day, this isn't my business. It's not my marriage. I'm not married to Jordan. So if they can work it out, then that's awesome for them.

[Host Avery Woods]

Do you think the situation could have been handled differently, or do you think it was just inevitable?

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

I think it was going to come out eventually. I think that all truth always comes out. I feel like if someone cheats, it's going to come to light, and I feel like it was only a matter of time. So I think it came out the best way it possibly could. You know, one of her good friends, like, telling her, like, hey, this is what I know. And, like, she was able to maybe, like, get ahead of it before. It could have blown up to something, like, big. But yeah. Yeah.

[Host Avery Woods]

Well, and also, I feel like you were really respectful, like, you thought about the situation and the information, and we're trying to figure out the best way to relay the message and kind of tell her, but, I mean, it's not easy, you know, especially when a family's involved. It's really hard. Well, you're in a relationship now. I just met him. Mason. What's up, homie? How's that going?

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

So good.

[Host Avery Woods]

Is it true he's chased his brother?

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

Yeah.

[Host Avery Woods]

That's crazy. So how did this come about? I want the whole story. I need the tea.

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

Okay. From. From the beginning. So me and my friend Devin, we actually just talked about her. We went out one night in Salt Lake to some of the bars. And we were meeting up with Shania, which is Miranda's best friend.

[Host Avery Woods]

Okay.

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

And she's like, come meet us at this bar. We came and met her, and she points to Mason and Chase, and she goes, which one do you guys want? To me and Devin. And I was like, like, what the hell are you talking about? Which one do I want? I was like, first of all, that's Chase. I'm not. I would. At that point, I wasn't close with Miranda in the slightest.

[Host Avery Woods]

Like, oh, okay.

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

Acquaintance would be, like, a loose term. Honestly. Like, I've met her at that point maybe, like, three or four times for content days that we would do, like, little cringy mom talk videos, but that was it.

[Host Avery Woods]

And for those that don't know, Chase is Miranda's ex husband and baby daddy.

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

Yes.

[Host Avery Woods]

And you're dating her ex husband's brother.

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

Yeah. Yeah. So I didn't know Miranda that well at all, but I still, even in that moment, was like, no. Like, I just feel like that's, like, weird. Like, I'm good. That's Miranda's ex husband. Like, I'm. I'm fine. The whole entire night. I was very persistent on, like, no, no, no, no, no, no. And then she basically gave me, like, her blessing. She's like, I don't care. And I was like, okay, you know what? Eff it. Like, he's cute. Like, I'll go for it. Chase. And then my friend went after Devin, and we saw each other for maybe, like, a month. Very, like, loosely.

[Host Avery Woods]

You and Chase?

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

Me and Chase. Yeah.

[Host Avery Woods]

Okay.

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

Went on maybe, like, three dates in total. Obviously had sex a couple times, but it was never anything, like, deep. Like, I couldn't even tell you the man's middle name.

[Host Avery Woods]

Like, I. Yeah, it wasn't deep.

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

Yeah, I fear a couple times, but it just was not a deep relationship, you know? Yeah, no, I get it. That's why I feel like it was fine for me and Mason. And then we rekindled at my birthday party, which you'll see on.

[Host Avery Woods]

Okay.

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

Season three or what you did see. And that was the first time we saw each other for, like, probably, like, a. Maybe a couple months or, like, almost a year. So it was, like, a while that I didn't speak to, like, either one of them. We still, like, follow each other on Instagram, but I was just, like, nothing came from, like, me and Chase. Like, why would I talk to Mason? And then, yeah, me and Mason just started seeing each other. And. Yeah.

[Host Avery Woods]

Just. How did that Happen. Like, how did you guys start he that night?

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

Shania always, like, always. She's like, hey, just so you know, like, Mason's always thought you were, like, cute. And I was like, there's no way. Hahaha. Like Devin, you know, that's weird. But then, yeah, I was just like, okay, like, let's go on a date. And then we went on a date.

[Host Avery Woods]

How long have you guys been dating?

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

So started seeing each other in March, but been official since July. Oh, yeah. Oh, so it's been a minute.

[Host Avery Woods]

Yeah. Oh, I love that. Yeah. You guys seem happy. I love that he's with you.

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

You know, he's the best.

[Host Avery Woods]

Okay, what's life like for you now with such a large public platform? Like, how has it changed from before.

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

The show started so much? I feel like I think out so many things more than I did before, like, simple things of, like, posting something that's in front of my house now. Like, you just think out everything. I feel like I'm constantly thinking of, like, how to protect my kids, how to protect myself. Also, like, you have to think out people that reach out to you and, like, oh, are they reaching out for, like, genuine reasons? Do they actually want to be my friend or they just talk for clout? It's just. Yeah, you have to think out so many things. But it's changed in great ways too. I'm able to provide my kids an amazing life that I never could ever dream of. You know, I feel like there's times in my life that, like, I would have to think of, okay, like, I have a hundred dollars, my bank account right now. I'm about to chalk out right at the grocery store. I can only spend, like, $50 because I still have to get gas for the week. And there's times that, like, I was literally pinching P20s trying to put food on the table for my kids. So to be able to, like, have financial freedom and provide my kids a great life, it's. I never could have imagined it. I'm so, so grateful.

[Host Avery Woods]

It's amazing. Where do you and Whitney stand right now?

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

I love Whitney.

[Host Avery Woods]

Really. Okay.

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

We had our ups and downs in season three for sure, and I feel like that's a friendship that's hard. Whitney's a very outspoken person, and she'll tell you how it is. And it's kind of hard sometimes. And it's hard also that she's close with Demi because I'm not close to me, and I don't think I ever would be. But I love. I really, really Love Whitney. I think Whitney is a really good friend, and when she loves, she loves very hard. And I think that's why sometimes it comes off so aggressively. And with, like, her and Michaela, it's just because she was just like. Like, let me love you. And Michaela's like, no. And I feel like that's why they were butting heads for so long. And I think you see more of that in season three, like, unfold towards the end.

[Host Avery Woods]

I do think Whitney is such a genuine person, and, like, knowing her off camera versus on camera, and obviously they're gonna cut and the producers are gonna do what they need to to, like, have drama. But, like, she is such a good person.

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

She is.

[Host Avery Woods]

And so, so kind.

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

She really is.

[Host Avery Woods]

And I love that she's getting her flowers right now. I really do.

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

She deserves it.

[Host Avery Woods]

She deserves it. She deserves what's happening to her on Dancing with the Stars. She's killing it. I'm so proud of her, and I love it. I love that for her. And I also think it's really cool to watch someone go from being so insanely hated and bullied online, because I've been in that position, and it fucking sucks. Like, it's so lonely. It's so hard. It fucks with your mental health. So to see her thrive now and, like, see the genuine happiness in her face and, like, doing what she loves, it makes me really happy.

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

I'm really happy for her. She deserves it. It's. Yeah, she. She got the bright end of what it's like to be the villain on a reality show, and she suffered for a minute, and I feel like, yeah, she does. She definitely deserves all the love right now. I'm really happy for her.

[Host Avery Woods]

What's the reason why you and Demi aren't friends?

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

I just think I've just seen too much for too long. I feel like for a long time, everyone in this group would always excuse Demi's behavior because she's. She's very outspoken, she's very opinionated, but she does it in a funny way. So you're like, oh, like, she's kind of a bitch, but, like, she said that, like, kind of in a joking way. So, like, it's not a big deal. And, like, you would always. Sarcasm. Yeah.

[Host Avery Woods]

Okay.

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

You always kind of, like, dismiss her being mean for her funniness. And I feel like we did that for a very, very long time in this group, and it wasn't until she started doing all of these awful things to Jesse that we were like, whoa, like, this isn't funny anymore. This isn't like a joke. This is actually like, yeah, vile behavior. And we can't believe she's doing this to, like, one of our friends. And then it was just, you know, you start to like, let her back in. You start to let your walls down a little bit. And then she just does it again. It's like a continuous pattern that she almost has this like, I'm better than you mindset. And I get that. I love, love a confident woman. I think that's amazing. But I think in this environment, we're already. We're pitted against each other every day. Naturally, when you're on a reality show, that's what's gonna happen. I feel like you don't need any more animosity towards each other. Towards each other. And I feel like every time she's in the room, it just, it's just negative and it sucks. It's really hard to be around.

[Host Avery Woods]

Yeah. And that I don't know her personally, so I can't speak on any of that. But I think in general, yeah, the types of people that is like, that kind of sucks the energy out of the room. And also in a friendship and relationship, you're like, what. You get to an age where like, what are you doing to benefit me? Like, I'm benefiting you. Like, you can't. You have to fill each other's cups. And so that can get very draining.

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

And it's hard because she can be fun. Like, she's fun to be around. She's. There's, like I said, she's really funny. And I feel like when you have your good moments with me, you're like, like, you remember and you're like, you go back to like those good times. You're like, damn it. Like, she's actually like, really fun to be around. Like, maybe we can work this out. And then it's the same thing. You see the patterns again. You're like, hey, like, this isn't just like a one off experience anymore. Like, this is. At this point, it's almost a character flaw. And it sucks to say. And it's. Hopefully it's something that she can work through in the future and kind of like heal that within herself to, like, be a better friend and show up for people. But it's just. Yeah, I just think I've seen too many things now. And if she's willing to do the things that she did to her best friend, she's gonna do that to anyone. And I just. Life's too short and too fragile to Feel uncomfortable around people, and I just feel like, yeah, that's where I kind of stand on that.

[Host Avery Woods]

Okay, who do you think's the biggest villain this season? To me, who's the most misunderstood?

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

I think probably Jesse. Just because you will start to see, obviously, in the beginning of the season, you're gonna be like, oh, my God, Jesse. Like, why would you do that to him? And then you're gonna start to see, like, a lot more character things from Jordan. You're gonna be like, okay, that makes sense. So I feel like Jesse will be a little bit misunderstood in the beginning of the season, and then towards the end, you'll be like, oh, like, I can see why she did what she did.

[Host Avery Woods]

Okay. When you're in such a, like, strong personality group, like, you guys are so strong and opinionated women, what gives you peace? Like, what keeps your peace for you and your home?

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

Yeah. I think de. Plugging from all of it, I feel like I know my safe places, and it's like. It's Miranda. It's like Mason. I like how many people that I really feel like I can, like, truly confide in completely. And I don't feel like I. It's not that I don't feel like I can't do that with other women, but to, like, a deeper, deeper level, I feel like we always have, like, our friendships within the group that are a little bit more connected than others, and I feel like that's healthy and that's normal. So I feel like just having my safe places that I feel like I truly can confide in and just being with my babies, you know, I feel like that's what I do all of this for at the end of the day. And, like, if all this goes away and I'm not part of this, like, that's who I go home to, is my baby. So just spending time with them, putting my phone down, drowning out the noise.

[Host Avery Woods]

Yeah. Disconnecting. You converted at 16, right?

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

Yes.

[Host Avery Woods]

To the Mormon Church. What's your relationship with faith look like right now?

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

I feel like I'm more spiritually driven than anything. I feel like there's some bigger thing than all of us out there. I don't know what it is. I don't know what to call it, but I think there's maybe something. But I think also I'm just here. We live on a floating rock, and I just try not to think too much into it, honestly.

[Host Avery Woods]

Yeah.

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

I just hope that it's gonna work out.

[Host Avery Woods]

And you're so outspoken and honest, which is so refreshing. Because I feel like this day and age cancel culture is so huge. So a lot of people have, like, pulled back a lot, including myself, just out of, like, protection of my own mental health. What gives you the confidence to say what's on your mind?

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

I don't know. I think everyone's gonna hate you. Even if you do everything right and you try to appease everybody and walk on eggshells and make everyone happy, no one's always gonna. There's gonna be one person that hates you. And I think, what purpose are you doing for yourself? And, like, whose peace are you keeping by trying to keep others, you know?

[Host Avery Woods]

Yeah.

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

I just think that life's too short. And if you don't like me for what I say, then sorry, there's somebody else out there that does. And if it doesn't serve you, then that's great, but I'm serving myself by being true to who I am.

[Host Avery Woods]

I always say I would rather be loved for who I am than hated for who I'm not.

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

Exactly.

[Host Avery Woods]

So. And I, I, I totally agree. Like, in back probably two years ago, I would read comments like, constructive criticism and, like, change certain things and realize they're still giving me and still hating on me. So it's like, why am I changing for someone, by the way, I've never even met, It's a complete stranger to me because they don't like something I do or say. I'd rather just be myself. Because you're gonna get hate either way. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

Exactly.

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[Layla Leanne Taylor]

I try to honestly show up as real as I can. I honestly feel like who I am on TV is who I am in real life to a, to like a limit. I think that there's definitely. I'm a little bit funnier in real life because they cut out things like that. But I feel like I try to be as authentic as I can in this experience because I feel like that translates to it's better on tv. I don't know about you, but I feel like when I'm watching a reality show I can tell who's faking it for camera and I can tell who's like playing it up or like, you know, is playing into like producers hands and things like that. And I feel like everyone on my show, at least I can say is pretty authentic and I'm proud of us for that. And I feel like that's why our show's so successful. It's because we show up every day and we try to show the audience like who we truly are and like what we're going through daily and things like that. And I feel like that's why we've built such a successful show because of that.

[Host Avery Woods]

I also say all the time because, you know, people didn't expect it to do as well as it did, but I always say I did because there's never been a reality show that isn't stemmed from people already having money and success and being moms that created money and a business on social media and are the sole provider for their family. There's never been anything like it. And I love that it's happened like that because, you know, everyone loves Real Housewives, but it's like, how many rich families need cameras in their house to show their mansions and their cars because they married into money or started businesses or whatever the case may be? But it's like, you guys are such a different niche. And it's so cool to see because it's the first reality show I've seen that I'm like, anyone watching it could do what they did. They could all start social media. They could all make a shit ton of money and support their. Their kids.

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

Yeah, no, it's amazing. I think that we're just showing up as raw and real as we can. Like, even just things that are simple. Like when you're watching the Housewives, like, they're showing up to each other's houses and full beats of glam and like, stylists, stylists and all these things, we're like, no, like, I'm coming to your house with no makeup on and, yeah, sweatpants that probably have food from my kids at 3pm and I'm showing up who I am. And if that looks gross and I look, you know, not camera presentable, then, like, good, because that's like, what's real and that's. That's what our life is. And yeah, we want to show people that. Post the damn video. Your life can completely change. And it's crazy to think of, like, where we are and where we came from. And yeah, it's. It's a really unique show and I feel like that's why. Yeah, totally.

[Host Avery Woods]

Good. How do you think you've grown the most since cameras first started rolling?

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

I think I'm just able to advocate for myself more. I feel like I'm finally finding my voice and being able to speak up and just be more true to who I am. I feel like I've always been this but just been too scared to show it.

[Host Avery Woods]

I remember watching in season one. I remember being like, wow, she's so shy. But, like, in person, you're not like that. But also what people didn't understand is what you were going through in your personal life during that time.

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

You know, and I've always kind of been like this. I've always been more shy. And I think it's just, like, a lot of things that, like, hopefully I can dive more into in, like, future seasons. I've dealt with a lot in my childhood, and I have a lot of trauma around it. And that's still things that I'm working through to this day. And I think that's why, like, when people are yelling and I shut down and I don't speak is because when I was little, if I spoke up when I was getting confronted with things, I'd get screamed at more or grounded for more amounts of times or abuse. So it's like, it's. It's hard for me to work through those things now as an adult, but I'm trying my best every day and trying to show up. And this is a very polarizing experience that I'm a part of every day. It's. How many times are you in a room with nine women that are screaming at each other for God knows what? Just dumb. Like, you know, it's just. It's weird world that we live in, but I'm trying to navigate it as best as I can.

[Host Avery Woods]

Yeah, you're doing a good job. What's something you've learned about friendship and forgiveness through this whole experience?

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

That we're human and we're all gonna fuck up and there's gonna be moments that you act out of character or you say things that you probably shouldn't have and just know that that was like, a little girl or at what point of their life, and they're still learning just like I am, and just try to give people grace. I think ultimately that's how I look at, like, all the girls. Like, Will I have deep relationships with every single one of these women? Again, no. And that's okay. But I also can have grace for them in situations that they handled things probably not the best because I. I understand. Yeah.

[Host Avery Woods]

What's the biggest opportunity that has come your way? Work wise, career wise, since the show that you never thought was possible? Trying to think, think and like, walking swimweight.

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

Yeah. That was amazing. I loved that. That was such a pinch me wake for sure. That I just did, like, a collection with Cup. She. I feel like that was really cool. Just, like, having your name, like, attached to something and having, like, your face on, like, a PR package. I bet, like, you feel that way too. It's like, my face is on this. What the hell?

[Host Avery Woods]

It never gets old. No.

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

It's so cool. It's like you never thought that your name would be attached to something else. I'm like, you're drinking your own drink right now.

[Host Avery Woods]

I am.

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

That's so amazing. You know, who would have thought? It's just cool.

[Host Avery Woods]

You need to try it. By the way.

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

Going to Arizona right now. Yeah.

[Host Avery Woods]

Period. Okay, what's next for you outside the show? Anything you're excited about?

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

I'm trying to pursue modeling. It's my like lifelong dream. I want to be around my model really bad. So hopefully that hopefully I can sign somebody and pursue that more full time.

[Host Avery Woods]

I could see it.

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

Awesome.

[Host Avery Woods]

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[Layla Leanne Taylor]

Hopefully.

[Host Avery Woods]

Yeah.

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

They have us. I would love to go on there and seek out the toxic men.

[Host Avery Woods]

100%. Grill their asses.

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

See the red flags before she can.

[Host Avery Woods]

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[Layla Leanne Taylor]

Yes.

[Host Avery Woods]

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[Layla Leanne Taylor]

Ooh, I love Starbucks. I'd get like a venti ice blonde white mocha with no whip.

[Host Avery Woods]

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[Layla Leanne Taylor]

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[Host Avery Woods]

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[Layla Leanne Taylor]

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[Host Avery Woods]

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[Layla Leanne Taylor]

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[Layla Leanne Taylor]

If I lived here, I would. But honestly, I'm here so much. I'm like, is it worth it? Only 100. Yeah. Should I just get in anyways, I 100 would.

[Host Avery Woods]

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[Layla Leanne Taylor]

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[Layla Leanne Taylor]

Such a good one too.

[Host Avery Woods]

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[Layla Leanne Taylor]

I'm obsessed with her.

[Host Avery Woods]

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[Layla Leanne Taylor]

Wait.

[Host Avery Woods]

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[Layla Leanne Taylor]

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[Host Avery Woods]

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[Layla Leanne Taylor]

Obsessed with her.

[Host Avery Woods]

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[Layla Leanne Taylor]

No, that's amazing. I wish I got that in. My child.

[Host Avery Woods]

Isn't gambling, like, devilish or something? She was like, this is how you bet with chips? Well, you know, you know, I turned out fine. Okay, what's your biggest mom hack? You swear by O? I'm like, you're the expert. You had kids 13 months apart.

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

I know. I don't even know how looking back sometimes I'm like, how did I make your sleep schedule? I'm still exhausted. My kids still wake up multiple times throughout the night. Wait, how they. Three and four? Yeah, yeah. Just for like the dumbest things too. They'll be like, mom, like, can you like, grab my water or like pat my back for a second? I'm like, guys, mama's tired.

[Host Avery Woods]

Okay. Oh, yeah. Ziggy will be like, the ice in my water melted. I said, okay.

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

There's bigger fish to fries.

[Host Avery Woods]

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[Layla Leanne Taylor]

It, put it in there. He's like, mom, I need you to do it.

[Host Avery Woods]

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[Layla Leanne Taylor]

I feel like my biggest mom hack. Probably like hot. Take screen time.

[Host Avery Woods]

No. So true. You know what?

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

You need a break.

[Host Avery Woods]

I will say, like, now that my kids are in school, like I was just saying, Monday through Friday from 8 to 4, they come home so exhausted and overstimulated and they do Spanish, French, art, music, science, and then they're like normal classroom. So they have like, like, I think like eight or ten teachers in total. I think they are constantly on the go, constantly learning. So when they come home, Ziggy first of all has to start his homework and then he has to read his books. And then we have dinner and when it's like seven o', clock, you watch your iPad and you put a movie on. Do something. I'm like, relax your brain. Like, it's a lot.

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

No, I. I think screen time in moderation is healthy. Sorry.

[Host Avery Woods]

100.

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

My mom needs to put on her makeup really quick before she goes to work. Yep. Like you can watch 30 minutes of Paw Patrol.

[Host Avery Woods]

My 4 year old getting her hair done. You think she's just going to sit and stare at a wall for 20 minutes while I do these fancy ass pigtails. No, no, no. She wants to watch StoryBots.

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

Yeah. And as she should.

[Host Avery Woods]

Okay. And she's learning. Yeah.

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

So God forbid.

[Host Avery Woods]

God forbid.

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

Yeah.

[Host Avery Woods]

I will say we don't allow YouTube. That's the one thing.

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

Yeah, YouTube. Scary.

[Host Avery Woods]

Because even they. They both had YouTube kids on their iPads. And some crazy came on and I was like, yeah, I know. That scares me.

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

They don't have, like, tablets yet, my kids, because they're too little. Yeah, like. Like they'll probably get those one day. But right now it's just like tv.

[Host Avery Woods]

You know, get the Amazon Kindle, fire the kids one because it's a two year warranty. Drop it in a pool, water dam or water damage. Cracked screen, they'll replace it.

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

Wait, Obsessed? Yeah.

[Host Avery Woods]

I'm like, this isn't an ad. I bought new ones every year. Okay. If you were offered to be on any other reality show in the world, what would it be? Ooh, Kardashians tomorrow.

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

Yeah. Kim, hit me up. I think like Traders.

[Host Avery Woods]

The fuck is traitors. Avery, everyone's mad at me. What is it?

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

It's like this, like, it's. They take on a bunch of reality stars and it's like a show that they. I don't even know how to explain it. It's just like a contest show, basically.

[Host Avery Woods]

Okay, homework Traders. I'll look them up. I'll look them up. Okay. If you could plan a girls trip anywhere with the cast, no drama allowed. Where would you go?

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

Oh, God. With this group, I don't think that's possible. The drama part, but trip, I feel like some really tropical. We haven't gone on any beach trips or anything yet. We've gone to, like, New Orleans.

[Host Avery Woods]

Travel at all.

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

Like, you guys like season one? We did, but then we only went to like. Where do we even go? Park City and stuff. Went down the street, you know?

[Host Avery Woods]

Yeah, that's not traveling. You guys need to go to like, Bora Bora or some on a pj.

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

Even like Mexico.

[Host Avery Woods]

Go.

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

Bring me to Cancun. That's easy.

[Host Avery Woods]

Or Tulum.

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

Something.

[Host Avery Woods]

Somewhere tropical.

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

I need a beach. So at least when, like, I'm being yelled at, like when you dip my toes in some sand.

[Host Avery Woods]

100. Wouldn't you go and buy me? But I'll just stay in the back room.

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

Oh, perfect.

[Host Avery Woods]

So I don't have to be involved in the drama or the cameras.

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

Amaze.

[Host Avery Woods]

Okay, great.

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

Great.

[Host Avery Woods]

Perfect. Well, thank you for being on. This was so fun. I'm so excited for you. Should be so proud of yourself.

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

Seriously, thank you.

[Host Avery Woods]

I'm so stoked for season three. Where can everyone find you and follow you on socials?

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

All of my handles are Layla Leanne Taylor, period. Yep.

[Host Avery Woods]

Well, cheers.

[Layla Leanne Taylor]

Thank you. Bye guys.

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