strength, grief & motherhood | amanda kloots

Summary

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CHEERS! with Avery Woods

Episode Title: strength, grief & motherhood | amanda kloots
Date: March 9, 2026
Guests: Amanda Kloots
Host: Avery Woods

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Episode Overview

In this heartfelt and candid conversation, host Avery Woods is joined by Amanda Kloots—performer, entrepreneur, fitness innovator, and mother. Over a relaxed chat, Amanda reflects on her multi-hyphenate career, her devastating experience of losing her husband Nick Cordero to Covid, motherhood, finding joy and strength through grief, the wellness journey that transformed her life, and the unique, unbreakable bond with her son, Elvis.

The episode is full of wisdom, sincerity, light moments, and actionable insights—not just about resilience but about loving life after loss, parenting, nurturing ambition, and prioritizing wellbeing. Amanda’s candidness about grief, career pivots, and self-care offers a relatable, empowering listen for anyone juggling life’s challenges.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Style & Pop Culture

• Amanda and Avery kick things off discussing the resurgence of Carolyn Bessette-Kennedy’s iconic minimalist style (02:00), inspired by the Hulu show “Love Story.”
• Both note how TV and pop culture influence fashion cycles and spark nostalgia. Amanda admires actress Sarah’s (the show’s Carolyn) breakout moment. (02:44)

Defining the Multi-Hyphenate Life

• Amanda describes herself as a “performer, entrepreneur, a person who likes to do it all” resisting career labels. “I would just say a multi hyphenate. A lover of multi hyphenates.” (03:36, Amanda)
• She emphasizes the importance of resisting boxes, prompting a conversation about motherhood as a core identity. (04:01)

Unique Names and Family Stories

• The two bond over their kids’ nontraditional names—Amanda’s son Elvis, Avery’s children Ziggy and Stevie—sharing the stories and meaning behind them. (04:17)
• On the pushback they each received for choosing original names, Amanda laughs: “Oh, that’s what I got too.” (04:28)
• Amanda shares that Elvis wasn't directly named after Elvis Presley, but the name carried personal and musical layers for their family. (04:33)

The ICU, Grief, and Living Through the Pandemic (07:00–16:39)

• Amanda opens up about her husband Nick’s sudden illness—healthy with no classic Covid symptoms, then crashing suddenly. She details the shock and naivete of the early pandemic, and the helplessness of watching a loved one slip away (09:31).
• “Nick was 41… young and just ready to start living. And then everything just came to a close.” (13:07, Amanda)
• Avery and Amanda both honor healthcare workers, with Amanda offering heartfelt praise for ICU nurses and recounting the global support she received during Nick’s illness (07:41).
• Candidly discusses regret (“Could I have done… could I have...?”) and the long, practical aftermath of loss: “Death is such a business ... when you’re already upset.” (13:07)
• Amanda reveals that her son Elvis was only 10 months old when Nick was hospitalized; the dual realities of new motherhood and widowhood shaped every aspect of her life.

Surviving with Children After Loss

• Amanda shares wisdom passed to her by Nick’s mother:

  “If Nick passes, Elvis will save you… He will give you something to smile at every day, to live for, to strive for. … The bond I have with Elvis is… just like my favorite thing in the entire world.” (15:00–16:18, Amanda)

• She stresses the power of getting through one day at a time and passes along this advice to other widows and widowers.

Amanda’s Midwest Upbringing & Broadway Dreams (16:43–23:48)

• Amanda grew up in Canton, Ohio, with loving parents who raised five close-knit siblings. “It was the quintessential Midwest upbringing… family dinner at 6pm when my dad would walk through the door.” (16:53, Amanda)
• She started dancing in 4th grade, fell in love with performing, and pursued musical theater in NYC after high school after not breaking into the top conservatories (18:00–19:22).
• “Three days before I graduated, booked my first national Broadway tour—42nd Street—at 20 years old.” (19:21, Amanda)
• Became a Radio City Rockette, and later, returned to Broadway as a singer, thanks to years of training and finding the right teacher (20:33–22:28).

Transition to TV—Co-Hosting 'The Talk'

• Amanda’s public grieving experience during Covid led to guest hosting, then full-time co-hosting The Talk (23:00–24:08).
• Insights on the difference between Broadway and live TV: “Broadway, you can hide behind a character. TV hosting, you really are bringing yourself to the set.” (24:08, Amanda)
• The live aspect was intense: “There were times where I’d be sobbing because Elvis would say something… and then I would have to... get on air and talk about how the new hot color for spring is orange.” (27:50, Amanda)
• She describes the emotional duality and stamina required to perform, especially during deep personal grief.

Health, Wellness, and the Power of Fitness (37:15–49:18)

• Amanda’s relationship with fitness has evolved from trying to stay thin on tour (“fitness is to be very, very skinny”) to finding joy, community, and mental health benefits. (37:49, Amanda)
• After divorce, fitness became therapy—“I was coming into this studio sad, depressed, crying… After working out… feeling like a million bucks.” (38:25)
• She explains launching Amanda Kloots Fitness and her unique jump rope class:

  “There’s nothing like it in the city… eventually I was teaching that class to sold out classes with waitlists. And then created my own jump rope and… a dance class, a full body class, and a mama and me class.” (40:45–42:22, Amanda)

• On teaching: “My whole motto: it is a privilege to work out. … If I ever dare complain about having to go to the gym again for the rest of my life… I’m like the worst person.” (43:44, Amanda)
• Both Amanda and Avery discuss how fitness impacts their mental health and sets an example for their kids (45:00–45:45).

Proper: Amanda’s Supplement Brand (46:21–49:18)

• Amanda introduces her wellness brand, Proper—rainbow-themed, affordable, no-guilt supplement powders meant to empower women to listen to their bodies.

  “We need a supplement brand that is no guilt… encouraging women to listen to your body. … If I ever complain about having to go to the gym, I remind myself: it is a privilege to be here.” (47:15, 43:44, Amanda)

• The powders are designed for real life (e.g., bloat support for travel), with packaging meant to be visually appealing and accessible.

Motherhood, Bonding, and Boy Mom Adventures (49:21–55:28)

• Amanda shares that her favorite part of motherhood is her deep, nurturing bond with Elvis, who is also her “best teacher”:

  “What I have built with him is just pure love... it’s such an exciting part of being a mom because… what else can I give to this little human?” (49:27–50:29, Amanda)

• Both reflect on how parenting gives new appreciation for their own parents and highlights the unconditional love of children.
• Amanda describes Elvis as fun, sporty, intellectually curious, and full of personality—attributes shaped, in part, by his unique “manny,” a stand-up comic. (53:16)
• Avery and Amanda laugh about their kids’ love for quirky documentaries and the charming quirks of young boys.

Rapid Fire Q&A, Wellness, and Favorite Things (58:28–End)

• Skincare routines: Amanda swears by lasers (“cool peel CO2”), peptides, Korean skincare, prequel sunscreen, and classic vitamin C serums.

  “I work very hard at it… I love a vitamin C serum. I’m obsessed with Korean skincare. It’s so affordable.” (58:28–60:27, Amanda)

• Early Bird/Night Owl: Amanda is an early bird:

  “If I’m in bed at 9:30 I’m so happy.” (61:56, Amanda)

• TV comfort shows: “Love Story,” and the Scrubs reboot (63:04)
• Amanda and Elvis’s favorite shared treat: Ice cream parties, movie and pizza nights (64:09)
• Celebrity crush: “Scott Speedman—Ben from Felicity!” (65:13)
• Favorite season: Summer, sun, and everything warm and bright (66:56)
• Pump up song before a performance: “Dreams” by The Cranberries.

  “It’s such a good… like, I can do this… windows down... everything’s right with the world.” (67:43)

• Episode ends with gratitude and a discussion on the importance of carving time for relationships and practicing balance.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

On grief and survival

“You just keep powering forward. But Elvis did save me. … Your children will save you.”
– Amanda Kloots (15:00–16:18)

On resilience and doing “the next right thing”

“I look back at that time, and I’m honestly so proud of myself, because I don’t even know how I got through it, because it was so much.”
– Amanda Kloots (14:23)

On fitness and gratitude

“If I ever dare complain about having to go to the gym again… I’m like the worst person in the entire world.”
– Amanda Kloots (43:44)

On teaching her son by example

“We are so privileged to be able to work out. … The whole mental health of wellness for me was when Nick was in the ICU… He would give anything to lift his arm up right now. So I always start off every fitness class with: it’s a privilege to be here.”
– Amanda Kloots (43:44)

On the duality of performing through grief

“There were times where I’d be sobbing… and then I would have to like get it together and then get on air and talk about how the new hot color for spring is orange. … Not everybody can do that.”
– Amanda Kloots (27:48)

On motherhood

“What I have built with [Elvis] is just pure love… he’s my best teacher… The relationship I’ve built with him is so special.”
– Amanda Kloots (49:27–50:29)

On empowerment and wellness for women

“We need a supplement brand that is no guilt… encourages women… to listen to your body. …”
– Amanda Kloots (47:15)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Carolyn Bessette-Kennedy & pop culture style: 01:46–03:18
• How Amanda defines herself: 03:31–04:03
• Naming their kids: 04:08–05:13
• The ICU, healthcare workers, and the start of grief: 06:41–07:58
• Nick’s illness & the reality of early pandemic: 09:31–14:23
• Advice to widows/parents after loss: 15:00–16:18
• Amanda’s childhood and Broadway dreams: 16:53–23:00
• Becoming a Rockette: 20:33–22:28
• Transition to TV hosting/‘The Talk’/performing while grieving: 23:00–27:50
• Health & wellness journey: 37:18–42:22
• Starting Amanda Kloots Fitness: 40:45–42:22
• Perspective on working out after loss: 43:44
• Launching Proper, her supplement brand: 46:21–49:18
• Motherhood reflections/bond with Elvis: 49:27–53:34
• Rapid Fire Q&A: 58:28–68:43
• Skincare details: 58:28–60:29
• Amanda’s current favorites: 63:01–68:14

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Episode Tone & Standout Moments

• Genuine and relatable: Amanda is open about deep grief, rebuilding life, and finding aspirations again.
• Supportive girl talk: The episode features honest conversation, laughter over motherhood quirks, and shared struggles.
• Empowering: Focus on privilege, mental health, and supporting other women.
• Inspirational: For anyone juggling parenting, career, recovery, or reinvention—Amanda’s journey gives hope and practical wisdom.

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Connect with Amanda Kloots

• Instagram: @amandakloots (Amanda jokes, “I’m technically challenged, so just Instagram.” 69:56)
• Proper Health: Available at ProperHealth.com, Amazon, and Target

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This episode is both moving and motivating—a must-listen for anyone seeking honest perspectives on strength, loss, single motherhood, wellness, and living life forward.

Transcript

[Narrator/Announcer]

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[Avery Woods]

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[Amanda Kloots]

Hi.

[Avery Woods]

We were just chit chatting about her obsession with Carolyn Bassette Kennedy, which I you walked in and you like exude her energy though.

[Amanda Kloots]

I mean the fact that you're saying that is we are already off to a great start.

[Avery Woods]

Yeah. The loafers, the jeans, the simple tea.

[Amanda Kloots]

I know it's been my uniform and then a white blouse and some like oversized pants she wore in like a last episode. I mean it's insane but you know.

[Avery Woods]

Yeah, I know. I, I was telling you that I had my fitting with my stylist last week for some things coming up and we were like, like channeling her energy and her vibe because it really is coming back around. But even before the show came out we. Which is called Love Story by the way for anyone that hasn't watched it. It's so good. It's on Hulu.

[Amanda Kloots]

So good. Watch it.

[Avery Woods]

It's amazing but I feel like that style was already kind of coming back around, but she, like, really solidified it, you know, with the show, and the stylist crushed it. And I was watching the interview with the actress that plays her, and they're wearing a lot of her original pieces.

[Amanda Kloots]

I know. How cool is that?

[Avery Woods]

So cool.

[Amanda Kloots]

I feel like her. Her name's Sarah. Right, Sarah. How cool to be her right now. I feel like she's just living, like, she got to play Carolyn now everyone wants to be her. It's just like, she must be on cloud nine.

[Avery Woods]

Like, it's insane. And I feel like the actor that plays JFK Jr. He is a Canadian actor and model, but I haven't really seen him in much, so I feel like both of them are. This one show is just gonna, like, skyrocket their careers, which I love for them because they're so talented.

[Amanda Kloots]

And I just read he had a baby, which is so, so sweet.

[Avery Woods]

Yep. He's a wife, and they just had a baby. So cute. Yeah. I'm obsessed. Okay. Amanda, you have had such a packed career. You've done so much.

[Amanda Kloots]

Thank you.

[Avery Woods]

But for someone that's meeting you for the first time, how would you describe yourself?

[Amanda Kloots]

Ooh, I would say I'm a performer, entrepreneur, a person who likes to do it all. Like, I. I hate being boxed in to any kind of career or path, and that's always how I've been. So I would just. Yeah, I would just say a. A multi hyphenate. A lover of multi hyphenates.

[Avery Woods]

Yeah. And all while being a mom.

[Amanda Kloots]

And I'll be. And that's obviously, like, the number one. I. Oh, God, I love being a mom so much.

[Avery Woods]

And also, I love your son's name, Elvis. Like, that is. I. I love unique names. Like, I. My son is 7, so they're only about a year apart.

[Amanda Kloots]

They have cool names, right?

[Avery Woods]

Ziggy and Stevie. Stevie, yeah. And Stevie's after my dad, Steve, but Ziggy. When we named him Ziggy, people were like, are you. Are you sure? Yeah.

[Amanda Kloots]

Oh, that's what I got, too.

[Avery Woods]

Yeah. But I love it. Like, you don't want a name that everyone has.

[Amanda Kloots]

And the thing with Elvis was my husband was a musician and loved music. I grew up. My mom loved Elvis Presley. Now, I didn't think of Elvis because of Elvis Presley. I just was like, obviously because of Elvis Presley, But I wasn't naming him after that. I convinced my husband finally, because I was like, Elvis is. Is just a cool name that. Yes. Is attached to a very famous person. But there are other Elvises in the world. And it just is a cool name. It's like a southern name and it just isn't used a lot. So like let's bring it back. And plus I was like Amanda, Nick and Elvis like it just worked.

[Avery Woods]

I love it.

[Amanda Kloots]

And he eventually got on board.

[Narrator/Announcer]

From the best selling author of It Ends With Us and Regretting youg comes the new film Reminders of Him. Based on Colleen Hoover's highest rated novel, it's a deeply emotional story about second chances, love and forgiveness that moved millions. Starring Micah Monroe, Tyreek Withers, Rudy Ponkow, Lauren Graham, Bradley Whitford, and country music star Lainey Wilson in her big screen debut. You'll laugh and cry as hope slowly finds its way back. Reminders of him rated PG13. Only in theaters March 13.

[Commercial Voice]

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[Avery Woods]

I think about names as adults, right? Because there was a lot of names I loved like I loved From Bug's Life, Dot. I loved Dottie, like Dot or Dottie. But I was like, see, Dot is like a grown woman. I don't know how that would, you know.

[Amanda Kloots]

Yeah.

[Avery Woods]

So Stevie was a little, a little different for me and I had like the sentimental value. But I love Elvis as a man.

[Amanda Kloots]

Well, thank you. I love Elvis as a man as well. And yeah, and he just embodies the name. I mean he's just a cool ass kid. I'm so proud of him and he's just so fun. And I have to like give a shout out to you cause I know you used to be a pediatric ICU nurse and Elvis was in the NICU for a little while and I mean, and then my late husband was in the ICU for 95 days. I mean you're amazing and nurses are amazing and no one I don't think fully understanding understands what ICU nurses do until you unfortunately are forced to watch them every day. And it is amazing. It will forever blow me away and like just bravo.

[Avery Woods]

Well, that's very kind of you. Thank you.

[Amanda Kloots]

Shout out to nurses.

[Avery Woods]

Shout out to healthcare workers, first responders so underpaid, underappreciated, overworked. Yes, but also, you know, especially for ICU nurses because I can only speak from what I did, but the passion behind it makes everything else so worth it. I bet, because it, it really like that got me up in the morning and I truly love what I did. And I was cross trained to the nicu, so I also, I also had a lot of time in the NICU as well.

[Amanda Kloots]

No, you can tell because they really care about, like, their patients and they go the extra mile. And even after I lost my husband, like, nurses were reaching out to me from all over the world, by the way, like, I've prayed for your husband. Like, I mean, they were just like, incredible.

[Avery Woods]

So, yeah, I want to touch a little bit on your experience with your late husband because, you know, I think it's so unique for someone to be in that position where you have someone very healthy and active and was affected by Covid so negatively. And I remember as a healthcare worker, it was so different because I worked in pediatrics, right. But we didn't really. We heard about this virus. You know, everyone's kind of talking, like whispering about it. Before it was so prevalent in the news and we didn't really see it much. But then during the first surge of the pandemic, the adult side of our hospital, the ICU was a Covid unit and they ran out of beds and trained ICU nurses. So they had the PICU nurses. We increased our age on our unit to age 25 because we were also ICU trained and we needed to help, you know, adults suffering from COVID And you obviously lived through that, which was. Hell, yeah. What was that experience like? Was he showing symptoms and then, you guys, you know, he was admitted. What did that, what did that look like?

[Amanda Kloots]

No, that was the craziest thing. He was not showing any symptoms. And at the time, you know, on the news, the symptoms were no taste, no smell. Right. And he had all of his taste and all of his smells. He just was sleeping. He was so tired. But I just figured he was, you know, depressed a little bit because everything our world had shut down. He was kind of on a roll with making music in la. It was like it was, you know, having some momentum and I feel like he just was, you know, depressed and I'm just going to go take a nap. And we were stuck in this little cabin. I mean, what else was there to do really, other than be with our son? But like, Elvis was three months old, so he was sleeping a lot anyway. So, yeah, no, it was very, very, very strange. It wasn't until two days before I took him to the emergency room at Cedars that his breathing started getting very heavy and he was, like, coughing a lot and very lethargic. So that's when we were like, wait a second. This is. This isn't right. Yeah, but it was true, especially for

[Avery Woods]

someone so young and healthy. That's what's different is like.

[Amanda Kloots]

Yes.

[Avery Woods]

And I. It's so weird, too, because it is. Really. Every person's symptoms are so different with this virus, because obviously, you know, my husband was a first responder. He was in law enforcement for 12 years, and then I worked in the ICU. So we were both on the front lines when everyone was kind of working at home like we were. We had never worked more in our lives because we were so busy. Yeah. But when we got it, I think I got it, like, three times in one year because I. So I worked full time in the ICU during the. Both surges of the pandemic, but with my pregnancy with my daughter, I Wore the same N95 mask for, like, eight months.

[Amanda Kloots]

Oh, my God.

[Avery Woods]

We ran out of supplies. So I had gotten Covid three different times.

[Amanda Kloots]

While you were pregnant?

[Avery Woods]

I got Covid once while I was pregnant, and then the other two times was. One was before my pregnancy, and then one was when I came back from maternity leave and I was breastfeeding my baby. But I remember each time I had different symptoms. So, like you said, like, on the news, especially when there wasn't a lot of information. Information, you know, you have no idea what to expect. No.

[Amanda Kloots]

And they were also saying, you know, 65 and older, you know, it was. That was the age range. So, no, we were very naive. And neither Nick or I had ever been in the hospital other than giving birth to Elvis. We were very healthy people. So, like, all of the hospital jargon, terminology, worries, it was not even, you know, now Elvis has a fever, and I'm like, ah, of course, you know, I'm like, ptsd. But at that point in my life, we were just very green. And so I just let him sleep and continued to let him sleep. And, you know, it's. You know, of course, you look back and you're like, could I have done? Could I? Could I? Could have. But, you know, I've. Through therapy, worked through that.

[Avery Woods]

Yeah. And you're. Was Elvis around one?

[Amanda Kloots]

Elvis was 10 months when Nick went into the hospital.

[Avery Woods]

Oh, my gosh.

[Amanda Kloots]

Yeah. And when Nick passed away, he was a year and a month.

[Avery Woods]

I Mean, everything about that changes you as a human being.

[Amanda Kloots]

Yes.

[Avery Woods]

But coming out of it, was Elvis your saving grace? Yes. Yeah. Because I think about being in that position, and it's like, moving forward. You move forward because of your kids, you know, because of your child. Yes. And what do you think? How did that change you? How did that change you going through that experience, moving forward?

[Amanda Kloots]

Oh, my gosh, in. In every single way. I mean, you know, you're. You're a married woman with a new baby, a new family. We had just bought a house that we were renovating that Nick never got to live in, but it was like our first home. We had just moved to California, and we had just had Elvis. I mean, it's like the start of life. You know what I mean? I was 36, seven, I think, or 38, you know, Nick was 41. I mean, we're, like, just, like, young and just ready to start living. And then everything just came to a close, and you just have to. I didn't realize it at the time, but, like, completely start over. You know what I mean? Now I'm a single parent doing things on my own. I have to worry about all of that on my own. I have to, you know, and. And even just in the beginning of losing somebody, death is such a business, which is so upsetting when you're already upset. You're like, why are you talking about my husband like this? Like, he just died. You're treating it like a business. And. And unfortunately, it is. And so it just was a. It was a lot to deal with. And I look back at that time, and I'm honestly so proud of myself, because I don't even know how I got through it, because it was so much.

[Avery Woods]

And I will say, like, Jazzy and I were just talking about this, but it was a huge deal when Nick passed away, because obviously, like, he was in the media and people knew who he was, but again, a very young, healthy, fit person, and people didn't have an idea of what this virus was at that time. And so it really was everywhere, which is also really hard when you're trying to grieve.

[Amanda Kloots]

Yeah.

[Avery Woods]

You know, when so many people are talking about it.

[Amanda Kloots]

Yeah, it was. It was. I mean, like I said, I. I don't. I don't know how I. I got through it. I know I just got through. Which is advice I give to widows and widowers that I meet all the time. I'm like, you just. There's days where you just have to get through the day, and if that Means you go to bed at 6pm that's what you do that day to just get through the day. And you just keep powering forward. But Elvis did save me. And if anyone's listening, that is a widow or widower with kids. Nick's mother, Leslie Cordero, shout out to this woman. She lost her husband. I think it was three years before Nick got sick and she had three kids. And one day we were in the ICU and we were taking a break outside. We were sitting outside and she said to me, she was like, if Nick passes, Elvis will save you. She was like, you're. He will give you something to smile at every day, to live for, to strive for. And she was like, he's going to save you, Amanda. She told me that and it never left my brain. And I say that to any parent I meet, to I. That is in my situation, like, your children will save you. It's so hard. It's so tough to do it on your own and so hard to keep their memory alive and, and it. But they will. And the bond I have with Elvis is, I mean, just like my favorite thing in the entire world.

[Avery Woods]

And you have a piece of Nick, you know, living on forever. And that's such a beautiful thing as well.

[Amanda Kloots]

Oh, yeah.

[Avery Woods]

Well, I. I'm so sorry for your loss. I think you are so strong and resilient.

[Amanda Kloots]

Thank you.

[Avery Woods]

And knowing what your day to day looked like with him in the hospital, I give you your flowers because people don't understand that unless they've seen it

[Amanda Kloots]

or been through it.

[Avery Woods]

Yeah.

[Amanda Kloots]

You know.

[Avery Woods]

Yeah. So I think, I think you're just incredible.

[Amanda Kloots]

Thank you.

[Avery Woods]

I want to get to know a little more about you and like growing up because you were on Broadway. So what was your childhood like? And is that what you wanted to be when you grew up?

[Amanda Kloots]

I look back at my childhood and I just like, I'm so grateful for my mom and dad. We grew up in Ohio, Canton, Ohio. And you know, it was the quintessential Midwest, you know, upbringing and neighborhood. You know, ride our bikes around the neighborhood, get, you know, lost until my dad would whistle for us to come home for dinner. Elementary school down the street. I mean, it was just that kind of, you know, family dinner at 6pm when my dad would walk through the door. My raised five children who are best friends and love each other more than anything in the entire world. I still don't know how she did it.

[Avery Woods]

I love that.

[Amanda Kloots]

And my dad was an insurance salesman. We went to church every Sunday. That was a non Negotiable. And it just was. It was the best. I mean, it just really was. I. I feel so lucky. I. Because, you know, you now can realize when you're, you know, meeting other people how lucky that was. I. I realize how lucky that was, but it was. It was very fun. And I didn't start dancing until I was in fourth grade, so.

[Sponsor Voice]

Really?

[Amanda Kloots]

Oh, wow. And once I did, though, it was like, no going back. I was like, oh, my God, I love this, and I want to do this for the rest of my life.

[Avery Woods]

Wow.

[Amanda Kloots]

Yeah.

[Avery Woods]

So did you go to college?

[Amanda Kloots]

After high school, I went to a musical theater conservatory. So because I was mostly a dancer, I didn't really sing a lot. I sang in the choir in high school, but I never, like, sang on my own. But to get into all of these colleges for musical theater, especially the really, like, competitive ones, Michigan, Carnegie Mellon, nyu, Juilliard, of course. Like, you have to go in, sing, do a monologue, do all this stuff. And I didn't get into any of them because I could not sing like these people. And I remember an audition, I think it was from Michigan, who accepts, like, 10 people or something. Like, I mean, it's insane. Insane competitive level. And the woman that was in front of me singing, I was outside, and you could hear her, and I. I remember being like, oh, oh. Oh, God. I don't sing like that. Like. And I. I can't. I can't even believe I was brave enough to walk in after her and sing my two songs, because it was so devastating. And I came back and I cried to my choir teacher, Brian Keefer and Mary Meese. They're amazing. And they're still at my high school, leading the choral department at Glen Oak High School.

[Avery Woods]

That's amazing.

[Amanda Kloots]

And they were, like, this most, like, positive, just championing me. You can do this. Don't worry about that. And so I ended up getting into this conservatory in New York City called amda. Went there for two years, and three days before I graduated, booked my first national Broadway tour. Wow. Which was 42nd Street. So I was on my way. At 20 years old.

[Avery Woods]

Wow. That's amazing.

[Amanda Kloots]

It was very, very fun.

[Avery Woods]

Was it scary, like coming from a smaller town? Family unit. I mean, obviously you were in New York in school.

[Amanda Kloots]

Yeah.

[Avery Woods]

But then you're on tour, so you're off.

[Amanda Kloots]

Yeah. I mean, it was. And it wasn't like the tour. You become such a family, and everyone was super young because it paid nothing. And so if you were actually an adult with, like, responsibilities, you couldn't take this job. So everybody was very young. We just had a blast. And it. It felt like a little family. So it wasn't too scary. Um, it actually just was. Yeah, it was kind of amazing. You know, you got to see the whole country at 20 years old. I did that for a year and a month before I left that job, but it was awesome. Yeah.

[Avery Woods]

And then what was after that?

[Amanda Kloots]

Then I, while I was on that tour, auditioned for the Radio City Rockettes and then got that job and became a rocket.

[Avery Woods]

Yeah. You are like the epitome of a rocket. Like, being next to you, she's so tall and elongated and beautiful. Like, yeah, I want to see. If you weren't wearing jeans, I'd make you do a high kick.

[Amanda Kloots]

I mean, you never know. These are. These are actually tight Levi's, so I don't know.

[Avery Woods]

Was that, like. I made it.

[Amanda Kloots]

It was so fun. I mean, my parents took us to see the Rockettes when I was little. I had a picture of myself in the rehearsal room on a Radio City tour with, like, my leg up in a stretch. So the opening night of that show, terrified. Because they make it very apparent, especially as a first year, how perfection is so important. Like, you cannot mess up. And at that point in time, too, it was kind of like a hierarchy, you know, cool girl versus new girl place. But, you know, it was that time, and I don't even mind it, you know, because it just was a part of the situation. So I was a nervous wreck. But I was one of the tallest girls. So you're in the middle. Cause the Rockettes, the tallest girls are in the center, and then the shortest girls are on the end. It gives the illusion that we're all the same height, even though at that time it was 511 to 55 and a half. Now they've switched it to, like, I think it's 59 to 5 4.

[Avery Woods]

Okay.

[Amanda Kloots]

So I was right in the middle, and I, like, flapped out. But my whole family was. Came to see my opening night, and it was just, like, so fun and so thrilling. I didn't mess up. Thank God.

[Avery Woods]

Oh, good. How long were you a Rockette for?

[Amanda Kloots]

I did Rockettes for two, and then I realized I loved Broadway and singing and acting.

[Avery Woods]

So the voice did come.

[Amanda Kloots]

The voice finally came. We worked on it, and then I got there.

[Avery Woods]

Was that with private voice lessons?

[Amanda Kloots]

Yes, a lot of them.

[Avery Woods]

Okay.

[Amanda Kloots]

And I think for me, it was just becoming an age where I fully knew and understood how to train my instrument. It was like it never made sense. To me before. And then I got a great voice teacher who really, like, taught me about the voice and the muscle and the registers, and I was able to comprehend it and then work on it, and it was a whole different story. And then I actually, at that point in my time, like, was a very good singer. Yeah, not so much anymore. Okay.

[Commercial Voice]

Okay.

[Avery Woods]

That's good to know. You've done so much, though, because you also co hosted a talk show.

[Amanda Kloots]

Yes.

[Avery Woods]

How did that come about from Broadway?

[Amanda Kloots]

Well, I will say Broadway prepares you for everything in life.

[Avery Woods]

It's live.

[Amanda Kloots]

Yes. Yeah, it is live. You live at a theater. You work at night. It's working with people. You're working with people for a long time for a goal. You lose your job continually. You get told no all the time. Like, it teaches you every skill you need to have in life. So for TV hosting, you know, that came out of COVID I had been so public with Nick's challenging, you know, Covid experience, and I was. I had really just kind of like, taken it public, and it. It went far above anything that I ever even thought it would be. And then after he passed, the Talk was looking for a replacement, and they asked me to co host and guest. Co host. And I did that 12 times. And then they offered me this spot. So.

[Avery Woods]

Wow. What did you learn from co hosting a show like that? A talk show, versus what you learned from Broadway?

[Amanda Kloots]

Yeah, you know, I think, well, Broadway, you can hide behind a character, and TV hosting, you really are bringing yourself to the set, you know, And I think that that was something that I wasn't afraid of doing because I'm an open book and open book kind of person. But it was really like, oh, I have to, like, bring my A game every day, and I can't hide behind a costume of makeup or character. It's like, I have to be me. Which was very challenging whilst grieving because Nick died in July. I started that show in October and became a permanent host in January. So I was in the thick of grief. That show saved me because I. It gave me something to do every day, and it gave me a place to connect to people and laugh and have conversations. So it saved me. But it also, I mean, wild when you're grieving that heavily. Insane. But, yeah, I think it was just to be more open and to really listen. Jerry o' Connell really helped me with being a TV host. He's so open and silly and gives so much to his interviews and really, like, will go off script and just because somebody said something and then he's like, well, I'm not going to ask that question. You know what I mean? But you can see it happening in real time. And he's had lots of experience. And so when he came to set and started guest co hosting with us, it was a really good moment to, like, learn. Oh, okay. You can really go outside of the box. You can really do something fun. And Cheryl Underwood was the same too, because she's a comedian. So I saw how she used what she did professionally to help her on the talk show. So it was fun. It was like a constant learning experience. And such a great way to meet people. I'm sure you find that way with your podcast. Like, it's so fun to meet people this way.

[Avery Woods]

Totally. I feel like, well, I've met. I mean, I do an episode a week, you know, so it's like I meet so many new people, which I love.

[Amanda Kloots]

That you wouldn't normally get to meet.

[Avery Woods]

Exactly. Because social media is endless. Right. Like, I'm never gonna see every single person by scrolling.

[Amanda Kloots]

No.

[Avery Woods]

So being able to sit down intimately, meet someone, get to know them. And also people are so different online because it's. It's what they're allowing you to see because they're creating boundaries for themselves, which I completely understand and respect. I do the same for me.

[Amanda Kloots]

Right.

[Avery Woods]

But it's so different when you get to have that intimate one on one conversation.

[Amanda Kloots]

Yeah.

[Avery Woods]

But also I relate to the going off script and kind of changing things. Because it's true. You know, you can prepare and have your questions ready, but if someone brings something up or something doesn't fit, you do have to be able to think quick on your feet.

[Amanda Kloots]

Yeah. And just go with the flow and find the comedic moments or the sentimental moments. And it does make it more fun and challenging. And Yeah. I really loved that job. It was really. I was. I felt very lucky. I had to do that for five seasons and it was really fun.

[Avery Woods]

That's amazing.

[Amanda Kloots]

Yeah.

[Avery Woods]

What's something that would maybe surprise people about being on a show like that?

[Amanda Kloots]

I would say the live aspect every day to be on live television every day. By Thursday, we would film two on Thursday. So Friday was. We had off.

[Avery Woods]

You filmed two episodes on Thursday on.

[Amanda Kloots]

Yes. Because we would do our live show and then we would film Fridays on Thursday. Wow. Which was very nice because then we had Friday, Saturday, Sunday off.

[Avery Woods]

Yeah.

[Amanda Kloots]

But by Thursday, second show. And on the risk of sounding like trite and like, please know I'm very grateful for this job and like, it saved my life. But like if my makeup artist touched my face one more time, I'd be like. Or if, like, my hair, like, I don't even care if it's out of her or, like, what are you wearing?

[Avery Woods]

I don't. Yeah, you're done.

[Amanda Kloots]

You're just like, you're so. It's a lot of energy and. And you have to be on no matter what. And there were times where I would be sobbing my eyes out because Elvis would say something to me on the way to preschool, and then I would have to, like, get it together and then get on air and talk about how the new hot color for spring is orange. And I'd be like, my little child just asked me, like, the hardest question of my life. I mean, it's really hard to, like, flip the switch. So I would say people would be surprised at, like, the duality in a way that you have to, you know, put on, like, the. Okay, I'm. I'm now Amanda TV personality, and nothing else matters in my life right now. I just have to, like, be on, you know, and that. Not everybody can do that. It is a. It is a hard skill to learn and perfect and have an opinion every day on something on someone on topics like, you really have to come to the table every day. You know, it's not as easy as just. So, Avery, tell me about your podcast and who do you like interviewing? You know what I mean? It's different.

[Avery Woods]

And you were in the thick of grief on top of that. And this is newly single mom. I mean, just so much going on. But what you were saying about, like, the overstimulation of hair and makeup and all that, I think about going to certain events. Right. Like a carpet or, I don't know, something a brand is hosting. When you have that many eyes on you, too. Yeah. You have to be on. Yes. Like, there's no time where you can check out. You have to keep it together. And so leaving events like that, which is such a privilege and, like, so first world problems to complain about, but once you're alone and in silence in the car, you're like, oh, I'm so exhausted. It really is. I can't even imagine in front of a live audience and doing two in a day.

[Amanda Kloots]

Yeah, I mean, I. I just. Not just. But back in January, did the Golden Globe red carpet just.

[Avery Woods]

Yeah, iconic.

[Amanda Kloots]

Just. And. And I was like, an affiliate for Entertainment Tonight. And as soon as we were done and it was so fun, by the way, I was so worried about, you know, every red carpet, I get imposter syndrome. I'm like, why am I here?

[Avery Woods]

You looked so gorgeous.

[Amanda Kloots]

Oh, my God, that's stunning. Thank you so much. But I, you know, you. You get like, are they going to be nice to me? Are people going to want to talk? To get so nervous? And then everybody was so nice and so fun, and it was. I had a blast. But to your point, as soon as they were like, the doors are closed, I took my shoes off, I left the carpet, walked across Santa Monica Boulevard in my bare feet and gown because my driver was waiting at the Starbucks parking lot because he couldn't get through. It would take him an hour. And I was like, no, no, no.

[Avery Woods]

I'm walking to you, Stephen.

[Amanda Kloots]

I'm coming to you.

[Avery Woods]

I did the same thing at the Grammys, but it was pouring rain, like, two years ago.

[Amanda Kloots]

I was there. And I know what you're think about

[Avery Woods]

was in these Prada heels, and they were, you know, when they close the door, the doors are closed, like, you're not getting in. And our driver, bless his heart, he did take the wrong route. And my husband was like, this is the wrong way. Like, no, no, no. So thank God we left early because it added an hour to our drive. Oh, my gosh. And we were so many cars back, and I was like, we got to get out. Yeah. And my husband's in, like, a Prado bolo tie. I'm in, like, this long gown. I bought these Prada shoes. Never wore them again because they. The sling got back, got stretched out from all the water. So we're literally sprinting in the rain to just to get to the door. So, like, it's funny that people don't, like, they see all the fancy, like, cute, fun stuff, but I'm like, if only you knew.

[Amanda Kloots]

I was in my bare feet walking across the Starbucks. Couldn't get. Wait to get home to order my Fresh Brothers pizza.

[Avery Woods]

We love Fresh Brothers. My kids are obsessed.

[Amanda Kloots]

That is so good.

[Avery Woods]

Wait, their wings.

[Amanda Kloots]

I don't have. I've never had their wings.

[Avery Woods]

The reason why I like their wings is because they're lightly breaded. They're not fried fried. So I'm like, it's literally healthy.

[Amanda Kloots]

You know, it is. But also, like, their thin crust is. I've convinced myself it's very healthy.

[Avery Woods]

Thank you. Yeah. My kids love the thin crust. And I'll get a salad, and I'll put the mango habanero wings on my salad. Oh, it's so good.

[Amanda Kloots]

Okay. Yeah, I'm. Right now, it's a personal deep dish pizza with spinach Mushrooms and black olives.

[Commercial Voice]

Yum.

[Amanda Kloots]

And because it's a personal. The size is perfect. Like, it. It's indulgent and it makes me feel very happy, but I can't have any more because there's no more of those. Four small slices.

[Avery Woods]

Yep. Okay. I want to. Going into that. I want to talk about health and wellness.

[Amanda Kloots]

Yes. Yes, please.

[Avery Woods]

Because you. I'm huge into health and wellness. I. I mean, I'm literally in my Pilates outfit because I came straight from

[Amanda Kloots]

my workout, which I love. Thank you.

[Avery Woods]

But I.

[Amanda Kloots]

You're bringing back the Capri? The Capri.

[Avery Woods]

It's really a thing.

[Amanda Kloots]

I mean, I just. When did you transfer over to the Capri? I haven't gone there yet. I mean, I used to wear those when I first started teaching fitness. That was what you wore then? I. You know, obviously, the long legging, I haven't gone back yet.

[Avery Woods]

So. You know my girl Hailey Bieber, okay, she started wearing these capris, the little tiny kitten heel thong, YSL sandals. And I'm like with the windbreaker jacket. And I say, whatever you wear, I'll wear. But then, you know, some of my favorite workout brands, like csb, they started sending me capris, and I was like. Like, these are kind of a vibe. And what I like about it is I'm so on the go. Like, I drop my kids off, go work out. Yeah, Come here. Go do whatever I need to do. Yeah. So I like something that looks a little more put together and not as, like, workout.

[Amanda Kloots]

Yeah, you're right.

[Avery Woods]

You know what I'm saying?

[Amanda Kloots]

And it does look cute with, like a little ballet flat.

[Avery Woods]

Where.

[Amanda Kloots]

Yeah, I mean, I'm party. I mean, maybe you'll convince me.

[Avery Woods]

You know, I think Carolyn beside would approve.

[Amanda Kloots]

I think she would actually. I think she would. She would wear this outfit you're wearing,

[Avery Woods]

and you would pull it off too, because you're so. Just. Just tall and gorgeous and like, model body.

[Amanda Kloots]

All right, well, that's very kind of you. Maybe I'll. Maybe I'll try a pair and I'll tag you.

[Avery Woods]

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[Avery Woods]

Okay, so health and wellness. Yes.

[Amanda Kloots]

Love it too.

[Avery Woods]

Obviously you've been active your whole life because you're a dancer, but tell me about your passion behind health and wellness.

[Amanda Kloots]

Yeah, obviously, yes. Dance was like my thing. Found fitness while I was on tour on 42nd street, but found it in a way that was not healthy, as most women probably can attest to. I was wearing skimpy costumes every single day. And on tour I had gained weight. Because you are in different cities, living out of a hotel room, you have, you know, you're eating, you make no

[Avery Woods]

money to eat healthy food.

[Amanda Kloots]

No. And you're, you know, you're in Chicago and after the show you go get deep dish pizza. I mean, it just is what you do. So I started working out in a gym for the first time and went the opposite way of like fitness is to be very, very skinny and so I can feel and look better in my costumes. And that was pretty much how I saw fitness until I went through a divorce. So I went through a divorce after a seven year marriage.

[Avery Woods]

And.

[Amanda Kloots]

And through the divorce I found that, oh, fitness is mental health.

[Avery Woods]

Totally.

[Amanda Kloots]

It's actually making me happy in one of the saddest times of my entire life. So I was teaching fitness at a place called Body by Simone in New York City and I loved it. Cause it was dance fitness. And I loved like the performing aspect of that studio. Like I was in the room with like 30 women behind me and we were doing dance cardio and it just felt like I was on stage. Like it was so fun and it's

[Avery Woods]

like an uplift environment. So these women are so excited to be there. Yes.

[Amanda Kloots]

And I loved like seeing women that like, were shy or in the back row and then coming up in the front two weeks later and making friends with people and it was just a blast. And so through that divorce, I was like, wait a second. I was coming into this studio sad, depressed, crying, and I'm leaving three hours later. After working out, listening to music and being in a community where people have, like, this fun goal feeling, like a million bucks. And I was like, oh, wait a second. I have been thinking about fitness a completely wrong way. And so then that is what inspired me to start my own fitness business. So then I left Broadway after 16 years and started Amanda Kloots Fitness. And I've been doing, you know, that's been my baby. My first, like, entrepreneurship endeavor in 2015.

[Avery Woods]

I can't believe you're on Broadway for 16. 16 years.

[Amanda Kloots]

I know.

[Avery Woods]

Crazy. You're like, I know. Me too.

[Amanda Kloots]

I'm 112.

[Avery Woods]

No. First of all, well, we're going to talk about your skin. Because I'm like, well, I was talking about yours. Oh, no, I have. No, no, you are. Your skin's insane.

[Amanda Kloots]

Oh, my gosh.

[Avery Woods]

But 16 years is so impressive. But for your fitness, what was the first thing you launched for your brand?

[Amanda Kloots]

It was my jump rope class.

[Avery Woods]

I love jumpers. You do? Oh, my God.

[Amanda Kloots]

I'm gonna send you. I have my own jump rope. I should have brought you one.

[Avery Woods]

Oh, you. We brought proper.

[Amanda Kloots]

I jumping proper. I'm gonna send you my jump rope, too, because it is the best jump rope. And if you really like jump ropes. I love it. Is a perfect jump rope. But, yeah, I was teaching at Body by Simone, and I had this idea for a jump rope class. Now, keep in mind, this was, like, the height of boutique fitness in, like, 2012-20. Like, before COVID you know, it was like, you didn't go to the massive gyms. You went to SoulCycle, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, and you took Atkins class, and then you did. You know what I mean? Like, everybody had their, like, boutique fitness spot.

[Avery Woods]

Totally. I remember.

[Amanda Kloots]

And you know what I'm talking about. And so I was like, I want to start a jump rope class. There's nothing like it in the city. And then I was like, there's nothing like it in the world that I can find. And so I started practicing it out on private clients. And then when I left and started my own business, that was the first class that I launched with at a studio called Studio B that doesn't exist anymore, but it was in New York City, and. And nobody cared, Avery. And nobody came.

[Avery Woods]

But that's. That's how you start.

[Amanda Kloots]

It was. It was on Mondays at 7:00am oh, yeah.

[Avery Woods]

People are like, you're crazy.

[Amanda Kloots]

In my psycho brain. I was like, great way to start the week. Everyone's gonna show up.

[Avery Woods]

They're like, oh, people have jobs. I forgot about that.

[Amanda Kloots]

That's so funny. And there were no showers at this gym too. So it didn't even give you the opportunity to, like, clean up before you went to work. So needless to say, it took me a while to get it off and running. But eventually. And eventually I was teaching that class to sold out classes with weightless. So. And then created my own jump rope and. And. And then rounded out my fitness business with a dance class because obviously that made so much sense to me. I love dance cardio. And then a full body class. And then when I got pregnant, I did a whole mama and me class, which was honestly my favorite. I. You'll love this. I would start the class off and I would. You know, there'd be like 35 women. I'd be like, I just want everybody to know there are 70 people in this class right now because I wanted them to remember that they are growing a baby inside of them right now and they are working out for two people.

[Avery Woods]

Amazing.

[Amanda Kloots]

And everyone was just like. And it was like the most empowering. Like, I loved teaching that class. It was so fun.

[Avery Woods]

I bet you would be like the most encouraging fitness instructor. Like, what I would give so you could be able to go to a. A class that you need. Because I know you're just so.

[Amanda Kloots]

Thank you.

[Avery Woods]

Encouraging and happy and you're passionate about it, which makes a big difference.

[Amanda Kloots]

I do love it. I love teaching fitness. I really do. I. I love seeing people have a goal. I love seeing people just, like, think they can't do something than they can. I love making people smile when they work out because, like, my whole motto with fitness is like, we are so great. Like, we're such a privilege to be able to work out like it is. It is such a privilege to walk into a gym, to go on a walk. And that's the other thing. Like, the whole mental health of wellness for me was when Nick was in the icu, my late husband and I sat by his side for 95 days. He was in a coma. The best he could do was open his eyes halfway. That was three months. Yeah. And I was like, I know this man. This man would give anything to lift his arm up right now. And if I ever dare complain about having to go to the gym again for the rest of my life, My life. I'm like the worst person in the entire world. So I always start off every fitness class with, I want to remind you it is a privilege to be here. Do not take it for granted. Work out in that mindset all the time. So I love that.

[Avery Woods]

I was very active growing up. I played volleyball but it wasn't until my mental health was the lowest it ever was that I became so committed to my fitness journey thanks to my therapist. She was like, you gotta release some endorphins and like get out and move your body. And it's so easy to like hermit and hide away and wanna be lazy and lay in bed, especially when your mental health is so low. But for me, I was like, five days a week, I'm dropping my kids off and they're in school. I don't have an excuse. I'm a healthy young individual. I have the privilege, like you said, to work out. And it completely changed my life. And then I watched my mental health completely change and now I look forward to it. And like, if I miss a day, like on Friday I had a flight. So I went in yesterday on a Sunday to go lift with my trainer and I was like, who am I? Like, Avery from two years ago, like, you went in on us on your free Sunday morning. But I loved it and it was the best, like, start to my day.

[Amanda Kloots]

Yeah.

[Avery Woods]

And I also just like, my kids are getting to that age where they're getting heavy and I'm like, I want to be able to pick them up and hold them as long as I can.

[Amanda Kloots]

Yeah. And also just being a good example. Example for your kids. Like, I remember watching my mom do workout videos in our living room. I remember her like working out on this like weird tread machine. And I just like, I just. She wasn't even promoting it that time. Do you know what I mean? It just. But I saw her do it. I saw her put her health first. And it's. I think it's an important thing as parents and it. Listen, it doesn't have to be expensive. I tell this to be all the time. Go on a walk. Go on a walk.

[Avery Woods]

YouTube workout videos. When I was a broke nursing student. When I was in college, we couldn't afford even like a ten dollar gym membership a month. So I would watch like a 5 or 10 minute YouTube workout video in between studying.

[Amanda Kloots]

That's amazing.

[Avery Woods]

I didn't even need a mat. I just would.

[Amanda Kloots]

I still do that sometimes at home. And I'm like, I don't know what I'm gonna do for myself today.

[Avery Woods]

Or traveling.

[Amanda Kloots]

Yes, traveling is so good. You can find some of my workouts on YouTube. But I also love, like, I love going to class. Like, even though I can train myself and I do a lot of times, I love going around LA and taking class. Like, it's so fun to put myself in like the other person's shoes and just be taught. Be told what to do. Yeah, totally.

[Avery Woods]

And you might find something new that you like.

[Amanda Kloots]

Oh, yeah, I do all the time. Yeah.

[Avery Woods]

Okay. Tell me about proper.

[Amanda Kloots]

Yeah. So Proper is a supplement company that I started a year ago, A little over a year ago. We launched with five powders.

[Avery Woods]

And, guys, her packaging. I was telling her when she walked in, because the five powders, they're all different colors, and they're beautiful. They're, like, pastel bright.

[Amanda Kloots]

Just.

[Avery Woods]

They make me happy.

[Amanda Kloots]

Well, they're a rainbow theme, because I love rainbows. They, you know, are just an inspiring symbol. They're about resilience, and I love color. And I think that if anything's gonna be on my countertop, like I told you before, I want it to be aesthetically ple. Pleasing. I want to. Want to take it, you know? And I think, you know, my. My thing with this was, is that I'm a busy mom, and I am lucky enough to be, you know, in the wellness world, right? So I do try a lot of things, but some of these supplements, a are extremely expensive and have so many rules behind them. Like, you have to take this an hour before breakfast, but not two hours before lunch, and then eat it on an empty stomach. And so then sometimes you take it, and you're like, well, I just I e. Grape. So that is that not an empty stomach. Can I take? I can't take. So I'll start tomorrow. You know what I mean? Like, there's too many rules, or it costs a lot of money, and then it's disgusting, and then it sits on your countertop. I call it a supplement graveyard. Like, it just stares at you, and you just feel like, I just wasted $500 on all these supplements, and it's guilt. And so I was like, no, no, no, no. We need a supplement brand that is no guilt. That actually encourages women. This is the other thing I think we don't do and mental health to listen to your body. We're so used to being told when to take something. Like, I just said that we don't even listen to what's going on anymore. So I love proper because if I'm traveling and when I fly, my digestion gets all messed up and I feel bloated. I'm gonna take my digestion and bloat powder.

[Avery Woods]

I'm literally taking this to Paris with me. I leave in four days. Yay.

[Amanda Kloots]

Oh, good.

[Avery Woods]

And I'm like, I need something.

[Amanda Kloots]

Yes. This is the daily glow. This is when you're like, you know what? I feel like my sk. I look in the mirror, and everyone's talking about, like, you know, the glass skin effect. I'm gonna take something to help me with my glass skin. It also just tastes. They all taste so delicious. It's so easy to use. It encourages to drink more water, which we all need to do. It's healthy. They're filled with minerals and vitamins that you need on a daily basis. And so it just is. I love. I mean, obviously we love our own brands, but I'm really proud of proper because of all of those reasons. It is a no guilt. It is so afford and on Amazon, in Target, on ProperHealth.com, but it is just, like, easy to use and helpful to anyone that just wants to feel better about their day.

[Avery Woods]

Yeah. Okay. I love it. I'm sold. I'm excited.

[Amanda Kloots]

Good.

[Avery Woods]

Okay. I want to talk just a little bit about motherhood.

[Amanda Kloots]

Oh, please. Yeah.

[Avery Woods]

What's your favorite part about being a mom?

[Amanda Kloots]

Oh, gosh. I think it is.

[Avery Woods]

Is.

[Amanda Kloots]

I think for me, it's the bond I have with Elvis. I love nurturing it. I love how special it is. I just did a therapy session, like, a deeper dive therapy session, where it showed me how, like, he's my best teacher and the relationship that I've built with him is, like, I need to always remember to look at that for guidance in other relationships of my life, because what I have built with him is just pure love. And it's so special to me that I do. Like, I need to nurture it and foster it. And it's such an exciting part, I think, of being a mom, because it just takes you out of it, and you're just kind of like, what else can I give to this little human? And the love you receive back, like, it's just.

[Avery Woods]

It's just unconditional. Like, there's nothing like the way your child looks at you. I know.

[Amanda Kloots]

I know.

[Avery Woods]

It is just no matter what you do, they will love you unconditionally. And that's such a blessing because I also, like, I remember working with a lot of abused children, and I remember just their unconditional love for their parents, you know, but they weren't being treated the way that they deserve.

[Amanda Kloots]

Oh, my God. That would break my heart.

[Avery Woods]

It just makes you feel. Think, like, you know, no matter what you do in their eyes, you know, they look at you, they look up to you the most. Yeah. And, yeah, it's just. It's just beautiful. I love.

[Amanda Kloots]

Do you feel, too, like, it's made you a better daughter, like, so much ever. Like, the second Elvis was born, I had a whole new appreciation for my mom and dad, who I already loved. I told you, like, they are, like, amazing. But even more to, like, this day, I'm like, oh, my God. Like, I, I need to be better. I need to call my mom back and apologize. I need to let her know how much I love her. Just, you know, out of randomness today, like, it's just, it's, it's so nice that it has that ripple effect, you know?

[Avery Woods]

Yeah. And you, you understand the selflessness of what being a parent is, because that's nothing that you can imagine. You have to experience it, you know, 100%. Tell me a little bit about el Elvis.

[Amanda Kloots]

Well, right now he's six and such

[Avery Woods]

a fun age for a boy. I love it.

[Amanda Kloots]

Yes. He's, he loves hockey. He's such a sporty little kid. Hockey and soccer.

[Avery Woods]

Okay.

[Amanda Kloots]

Which is very unlike his mother and father. We were not sporty kids. We were, you know, Broadway singing and dancing.

[Avery Woods]

And you're like, what is this?

[Amanda Kloots]

Yeah, but he's like half Canadian because Nick was half Canadian and he's like, in his Canadian roots with his hockey.

[Avery Woods]

Okay.

[Amanda Kloots]

He's, he's so driven. Like, he really loves to learn. He will watch a documentary on Netflix about, you know, anything and sit there for hours just watching a documentary. I mean, he's like, fascinated by learning. And when he's kind of like me, when he really likes something, he'll just like, really drill at home.

[Avery Woods]

He's obsessed.

[Amanda Kloots]

Yeah, just like go all in. But he's really funny. You know, he's had a manny his whole entire life and I, I'm obsessed with that. I, I, it was one of the best decisions I ever did. I honestly think it was divine intervention from my late husband because I don't know how I thought of it on my own. But his manny is a stand up comic at night. And that was, when I saw that on his resume, I was like, he's a standup comic and under special skills, he said clowning. And I was like, you're hired.

[Avery Woods]

Wait, that's so cool. Yeah.

[Amanda Kloots]

So he's really taught elite Elvis just to be this funny, cool, candid, silly kid. And I love it. And so he's funny, he has great timing, and he just is, he's a little lover because I've just smothered him with like, I think a million kisses a day.

[Avery Woods]

So. Yeah, that's funny you said that because my son ziggy, who turned 7 on Halloween.

[Amanda Kloots]

His birthday's on Halloween.

[Avery Woods]

Halloween, baby.

[Amanda Kloots]

Oh, my gosh.

[Avery Woods]

Is obsessed with National Geographic. Bear Grylls documentaries, like, would sit there all day. And I remember because we don't allow YouTube. And so I, like, heard something on his tablet, like a grown man. And I was kind of like, okay. Because, like, Netflix Kids doesn't have that. I was like, what is going on? Well, Disney has Bear Gryll stuff.

[Amanda Kloots]

Okay.

[Avery Woods]

And he's like, oh, we caught a big one. I'm like, what is going on? So I look over and he's like, oh, I'm just watching Bear Bear. We almost named him Bear.

[Amanda Kloots]

Oh, my God. This is a cool name.

[Avery Woods]

Yeah, we almost named him Bear because our last name's Woods. And I was like, bear woods would kind of be a cool name.

[Amanda Kloots]

Yeah, it's a cool name.

[Avery Woods]

He's obsessed with that. He's obsessed with my octopus teacher.

[Amanda Kloots]

Oh, yeah. On Netflix. Love that. I love that documentary.

[Avery Woods]

Hysterically Cried.

[Amanda Kloots]

Yeah.

[Avery Woods]

I was.

[Amanda Kloots]

I watched it three times.

[Avery Woods]

It was incredible.

[Amanda Kloots]

I need to show it to Elvis.

[Avery Woods]

He would probably love it.

[Amanda Kloots]

Show Elvis some of the Bear Gryll stuff, too. He would love it.

[Avery Woods]

They love. He loves learning about nature. And I just. It just makes me laugh because he's such a busy boy. Yeah. Yeah. Like, the fact that he sits there and it's like, you know, documentaries are, like, no music, a little boring. I fall asleep looking. And I was like, see, I wish we had this type of concentration for your homework. Yeah. But, you know, he's really.

[Amanda Kloots]

He have a lot of homework at 7?

[Avery Woods]

No, he does, like, one worksheet a night. It's nothing bad at all. And if. If they ever. They always say, like, if they're too tired or had a long day, then they don't need to do it. Like, this school is very chill about that. Yeah. But they're learning, like, learning how to read time on a clock. And so they've been doing homework with that and. And writing, so. But, yeah, being a boy mom is so fun.

[Amanda Kloots]

I love it.

[Avery Woods]

It's so fun.

[Amanda Kloots]

I really. I. It's. It is. It's really fun. And I think that Mama Son connection is.

[Avery Woods]

Yeah.

[Amanda Kloots]

Really special.

[Avery Woods]

Totally. Yeah. Okay. Before we get into our rapid Q and A. Oh, yay. What do you have coming up? What are you excited about?

[Amanda Kloots]

Well. Well, let's see. We have an exciting. Well, we just launched hydration powders with proper. We have a new launch coming out probably early May. I can't say what it is, but I'm fair. I am. I think out of all of our launches, this will be my most exciting because I love what we are putting out.

[Avery Woods]

Love.

[Amanda Kloots]

I can't say much more than that, but it's so good.

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[Amanda Kloots]

Thank you. That's very nice of you. I work very hard at it. Like it's, I've taken very seriously since, you know, I would say two years ago. I go to Vanessa Hernandez. Shout out to Vanessa Hernandez in Brentwood. Amazing facials, lasers. I'm a big laser girl.

[Avery Woods]

Okay. My trainer just told me, she's like, are you doing lasers? I said, no, I've never done it. She was need to get on it right now.

[Amanda Kloots]

You do?

[Avery Woods]

What is it like a certain type of le. Like what do I ask?

[Amanda Kloots]

Well, you, it depends. I mean you have amazing skin. So I'm, I'm not exactly sure what they would prescribe for you. But like I used to have a ton of sunspots because I worship the sun. I still do. I just, why can't the sun be good for us?

[Avery Woods]

I know, I know why. And I'm like, I don't want to wear a hat.

[Amanda Kloots]

I don't want to wear a hat. And I like when my face is tan same. But so I had a lot of sunspots. So like I did a lot of like pico and, and, and all of these like lasers that remove, you know, sunspot damage. My, my biggest laser that I love now is a cool peel CO2 laser. You know, I'm turning 44 this month.

[Avery Woods]

You look insane.

[Amanda Kloots]

Thank you.

[Avery Woods]

Like so, so, so good. Thank you.

[Amanda Kloots]

Thank you. But the cool peel laser has kind of changed the game.

[Avery Woods]

Okay.

[Amanda Kloots]

And yeah, I'm always like, what's the new, what's the new laser? What's the new thing? But I also am a huge peptide girl. I've been on nad INF injections for probably three years now. Okay. Ghkcu, which is another peptide that's amazing for your skin and your hair and your nails. I've been on that for two years. So it's a, you know, constant thing that I keep up with.

[Avery Woods]

What are your favorite, like topical products that you use in your skincare routine?

[Amanda Kloots]

I really love prequel. Like I love their whole it's dermatologist brand and I use their sunscreen and their daily face wash. I love a vitamin C serum. I'm using Ola Hendrickson. Yes.

[Avery Woods]

Love that vitamin C, it's so bright.

[Amanda Kloots]

It's so wonderful. It's really, really great. Obsessed with Korean skin care right now too. Also, it's so affordable and you can find a lot of it on Amazon and it's shipped to you the next day.

[Avery Woods]

The medicube sheet.

[Amanda Kloots]

Oh my God, it's amazing. I sleep in those collagen masks three times a week and I love a red, like I have a red light, like thing and I, and I, I do that. So like it's, you know, it takes work on top of it.

[Avery Woods]

Yeah, I'm the same way. Like I, I invest in it. And like my husband knows, like every night I got my routine and he makes fun of me and he was like, you come to bed like a grease ball.

[Amanda Kloots]

And I'm like, yeah, but, but I wake up.

[Avery Woods]

Look at how I wake up. Exactly.

[Amanda Kloots]

No, your skin's beautiful.

[Avery Woods]

Thank you.

[Amanda Kloots]

It's very glowy.

[Avery Woods]

Thank you. I, I didn't wear any makeup besides lip liner because I came from my workout. But, but for under your makeup, if you want a really good glowy product, I've been obsessed with the iconic London Underglow Primer.

[Amanda Kloots]

Oh, okay.

[Avery Woods]

It'll blow your mind. It's like a serum.

[Amanda Kloots]

Okay.

[Avery Woods]

That you put on under your makeup.

[Amanda Kloots]

Okay.

[Avery Woods]

It feels like silk. It completely blurs your pores, but it makes you like glow from within.

[Amanda Kloots]

Okay.

[Avery Woods]

Like I've never heard of this brand.

[Amanda Kloots]

Iconic, iconic London. I don't know.

[Avery Woods]

Oh, amazing.

[Amanda Kloots]

Okay.

[Avery Woods]

Amazing brand.

[Amanda Kloots]

Okay.

[Avery Woods]

You can buy it on, I think only online at Sephora.

[Amanda Kloots]

Oh, okay.

[Avery Woods]

But you would really like that product, Glow serum. Okay. Okay, Real quick.

[Amanda Kloots]

Okay.

[Avery Woods]

We're gonna do a quick little rapid Q and A.

[Amanda Kloots]

Love it.

[Avery Woods]

Are you an early bird or a night owl?

[Amanda Kloots]

Early bird.

[Avery Woods]

Really? What time?

[Amanda Kloots]

Yes, probably like 6:30, seven at the latest. I mean, I have to get all this to school, but I love waking up early and I'm honestly like, if I'm in bed at 9:30, I'm so happy.

[Avery Woods]

Same.

[Amanda Kloots]

I love going to bed.

[Avery Woods]

You know what's funny is I, I was a person that could like sleep till noon. Like even as I used to be able to do that now that I, my kids are in there because this is the first year they've ever been in full time school. Both of them starting since August. And So every day, five days a week, like I said, I'm up at 6:30, gotta get them dressed and ready for school, drop them off even on the weekends. Now I'm like 6:30, I'm like I know, like, you're just automatically it, but it's. I feel like I have so much. I'm more productive. I have a longer day and I do love to be in bed early.

[Amanda Kloots]

I love it. It feels so good.

[Avery Woods]

Do you want to go out? No, no, no. I want to be in bed under my heated blanket with my LED red light.

[Amanda Kloots]

Your event has to start at 6:30 or else you're not getting me.

[Avery Woods]

Oh, see, that's your thing. And in the LA traffic, I'm like, see? But that means I'm gonna be home at 10. That's two hours past my bedtime.

[Amanda Kloots]

Really? Yeah, I. Yeah.

[Avery Woods]

Okay. Go to Comfort show right now. Love Story.

[Amanda Kloots]

I mean, yes, that would be. That would be the one. I don't get to watch a lot of TV because we have one television in the house and Elvis usually takes control of it and I don't watch anything that's appropriate for me if it's not appropriate for him. So. But Love Story right now. And the Scrubs reboot is amazing.

[Avery Woods]

I haven't watched.

[Amanda Kloots]

Oh, it's so funny. And Zach Braff is one of my best friends and I'm just so proud and happy for him and Donald Fizan and Sarah Chalk because they worked so hard at this reboot. And. And it's like a reboot that's actually done really, really well. And it's. It's like just good comfort food.

[Avery Woods]

Okay, I'll watch it. Yeah, Yeah. I also. It's rough for me that Love Story only comes out once a week though. It's just not fair because, like at night when I do lay down and my kids are in bed, I'm like, well, I can't watch it till Thursday because I think it comes out Thursdays. Right?

[Amanda Kloots]

It does. Thursdays at 9.

[Avery Woods]

Yeah. We're like, no. Like, I don't like the exact day and time. I'm so dead.

[Amanda Kloots]

There's, I think, two more. I mean, I don't know.

[Avery Woods]

Okay. Something you and Elvis are currently obsessed with. Is there anything you guys like to do together recently or eat together?

[Amanda Kloots]

We love getting ice cream. As much as I am a health and wellness person, I do have dessert every single night.

[Avery Woods]

It's all about balance.

[Amanda Kloots]

It all is all about balance. And so we do love having little ice cream parties. That's always been sort of something that we do together. We have ice cream picnics on our kitchen floor. Oh, I am obsessed with that. And that we do love. We also love our Friday night movie, pizza and ice cream party parties.

[Avery Woods]

Okay. Very Sweet.

[Amanda Kloots]

Yeah.

[Avery Woods]

And what flavors of ice cream are we talking?

[Amanda Kloots]

These are gonna be if the, if it's store bought in my freezer. Cookie dough or cookies and cream. Elvis lights, mint chocolate chip.

[Avery Woods]

That's my son's favorite too.

[Amanda Kloots]

I don't know what it is with these boys. They all like mint chocolate chip. It makes no sense, but, like, I'm, I'm okay with it.

[Avery Woods]

And I honestly, I remember like two years ago, he was like, no, I want the mint one. And I was like, I don't know if you're gonna like that, buddy.

[Amanda Kloots]

Yeah.

[Avery Woods]

Nope. He, he has always been chocolate chip. And it's shocking because that's like one of the least liked flavors of ice cream.

[Amanda Kloots]

I know. I, it. I know, I know, I know. I don't know.

[Avery Woods]

You know what? They're just old souls. I respect it. Yeah, I do too. Ultimate celebrity crush.

[Amanda Kloots]

Oh, well, Scott Speedman, but Ben from Felicity have no idea who that is. Oh, okay. So Felicity is a great rewatch if you never. It was on the CW.

[Avery Woods]

Okay.

[Amanda Kloots]

And it was an amazing show in the 2000 early 2000s, where Keri Russell, who now is of course just won the actor award last night for Diplomat. She's a young girl that just moves to New York to go to nyu and she meets Scott Foley and Scott Speedman. And Scott Speedman is Ben and forever has been my. And he still is working actor. He's on a new show. I saw a billboard recently and he came on the Talk once and Avery, I die. I was dying. Like, I like, like you're in your childhood.

[Avery Woods]

You're like screaming inside.

[Amanda Kloots]

I mean, I really tried to act, like, so cool and I tried to look so hard to like, look super cute that day. Even though he is married with children and like, not interested. I was like, I had to have the cutest outfit. And I was like, my mom and I used to watch, Like, I just, I, I, it was a disaster. But I still got to meet him and I got a picture that's.

[Avery Woods]

There's always that one, right? That, like, no matter what, you're like,

[Amanda Kloots]

oh, yeah, he's just so cool. Like, he's just too cool.

[Avery Woods]

That's how my husband thinks about Rachel McAdams. Oh, yeah, but from the Notebook.

[Amanda Kloots]

Yes.

[Avery Woods]

He's like, I love her in general, but he's like, especially the Notebook with the red hair. He's obsessed.

[Amanda Kloots]

And those outfits.

[Avery Woods]

And yes, mine is John Krasinski from the Office as Jim, just because the way he treats Pam. I don't know. I just I'm obsessed. Also Jacob Lord, don't get me started on Jacob.

[Amanda Kloots]

Yeah, yeah.

[Avery Woods]

All right. Favorite time of the year?

[Amanda Kloots]

Summer. I'm such a summer girl. I love this. I just. The sun. I love the sunshine. So I love la. I love sunshine every day. I love summer clothes. I love summer colors. I love summer trips. I love the beach. I love late nights. Like I will say in summer. I don't like going to bed at 9:30 because it's still light outside. I love.

[Avery Woods]

Yeah, summer and sun just makes you happy.

[Amanda Kloots]

It makes you so happy.

[Avery Woods]

If I'm having a hard day or feel down sometimes I'll just like lay out on one of my little loungers out by the pool in the sun. And that like 10 minutes is like therapy. Same. It's really amazing.

[Amanda Kloots]

Same thing. It really just like rejuvenates your soul. Yeah, I agree.

[Avery Woods]

Okay, last question. Pump up song before a performance or like an event.

[Amanda Kloots]

Uhhuh. Dreams by the Cranberry Berries.

[Avery Woods]

See, I don't. How do I not know that song? I'm gonna listen to it in the car.

[Amanda Kloots]

All my life is changing. Okay.

[Avery Woods]

Yes, I know that song every day. Beautiful singer.

[Amanda Kloots]

No, that's very kind, but.

[Avery Woods]

Yeah, you're not gonna catch me soon.

[Amanda Kloots]

Oh, it's such a good. Like I can do this. It's also a great driving on the PCH with your windows down. Put on dreams and the ocean is to your left or right, doesn't matter. And as sun is shining and you're driving to Malibu and it's like everything's right, the world.

[Avery Woods]

Oh, I love that. Okay, well, I'm obsessed with you. I really am. I really love talking to you and same. I have so much respect for you. What you do as a mom after what you've been through and knowing, you know, the resilience and. And what you experienced. I just admire you because you've. It never stopped you. Like you just kept going forward and moving up and I don't even think think you've hit your peak yet. Honestly, I think you have. You have so much more to do.

[Amanda Kloots]

Thank you.

[Avery Woods]

And I can't wait to take proper with me to Paris.

[Amanda Kloots]

Yes, Take it to Paris. Are you gonna. What? Do you have any fun plans?

[Avery Woods]

Honestly, this is kind of. Paris is like our. Our little getaway. My husband and I, because I feel like it's kind of like a bubble. People like kind of leave you alone a little bit. But our what I consider like my adopted parents. I'm very lucky they have a flat there. Oh, how fun in the seventh. And so we go and it's our one trip we're taking this year away from the kids. Like not work related because we have some things coming up starting in April where our schedule is going to be insane the rest of the year.

[Amanda Kloots]

So you're taking the time now?

[Avery Woods]

So we're taking the time and everyone's like, oh, you're doing Fashion Week? I was like, no, I just don't have it in me. I just want to eat baguettes and drink a little bit of wine and

[Amanda Kloots]

also like the importance of just like making that time with your husband, especially before things get crazy. Like, it's so important to do that and like, like take that time out. Is. That's so good. You're. Oh, my sister lives in Paris and

[Avery Woods]

Oh yeah, it's amazing.

[Amanda Kloots]

I have like. Yeah, I love it.

[Avery Woods]

Yeah. And we're doing it strategically now because when we get back then the kids have spring break, so we'll be home with them and you know.

[Amanda Kloots]

Oh, how the beach.

[Avery Woods]

Cuz it's already beach weather. Thank you so much. It was so nice getting to know you too. Where can everyone find you and follow you?

[Amanda Kloots]

You know I am technically challenged, so just Instagram. Amanda. I have a TikTok, but there's. There's like two followers and two things.

[Avery Woods]

It's hard to keep up.

[Amanda Kloots]

I understand. I can't keep up, but Instagram is a. Is a reliable source for anything that's going on in my life.

[Avery Woods]

Good to know. Thank you so much for being here.

[Amanda Kloots]

Thank you.

[Avery Woods]

I wish you all the best and

[Amanda Kloots]

I can't wait to watch Cheers.

[Avery Woods]

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[Avery Woods]

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[Amanda Kloots]

Huh?

[Avery Woods]

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