
Throwback episode, originally aired on August 25, 2025. Avery is joined by content creator and University of Arizona student Avery Kroll! The Averys get into the reality of Greek life and what it’s actually like being 20 years old with a massive platform. Avery (the guest!) gets real about why she chose to stay in school despite making it big on social media, how she balances 9:00 AM lectures with brand deals, and why she’d rather be at a rave with her friends than an industry event in LA.
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Avery Woods
Hi, welcome to Cheers. I'm your host Avery Woods. Hi Avery. Hello. How are you?
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
I know it's so weird.
Avery Woods
I'm like I've never I told her, I said I've never interviewed anyone with my same name. But also I don't know a lot of people with our name but you know a bunch of people with our name. You're just telling me like everyone.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
I feel like I feel less unique.
Avery Woods
I maybe I was it's kind of weird we're 10 years apart which makes me feel so old. But I think it's also a generation thing because I was telling her when I was in preschool I hated my name cuz two boys are named Avery and I was like I don't want to be named after a boy. And then I grew up to love my name cuz no one had it but you were telling me at U ofa a bunch of girls are named.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
I don't think it's as popular on the east coast and then I moved to the west coast and like Arizona and I think it's just a very popular California name. But my mom picked it. It was a last name. It was a guy's last name in a yearbook, and she thought it was super cool, and so that's why she named me that. And she's growing up with no one having the name. Avery?
Avery Woods
Yeah. Are you from the East Coast? Yeah. Where are you from?
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
I'm from New Jersey originally, but then I, like, moved to Miami in middle school, so that's where I've been.
Avery Woods
And now you're at U of A. Did you start at U of as a freshman?
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
Yeah.
Avery Woods
How do you like it there?
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
I like it. I. You're like. That sounded like a big lie. No, I love, like, the community and my friends, but obviously, like, you know, Tucson's.
Avery Woods
Yeah, I was going to say, so we were obviously in the Phoenix area when we lived in Arizona, so we were a couple hours away. But I remember some of my friends going to U of A that graduated a year before me. And so I went to go hang out with them in their dorms, went to parties, whatever, to kind of explore the campus. Because I was considering going to new nursing school at U of A. I loved the campus. Yeah. I thought it was really cool because ASU is very spread out. It's like the whole city of Tempe, so it doesn't feel very like college town. Whereas U of A feels more college town because it's condensed. But outside of U of A is Tucson. Yeah.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
You know, I picked it because I wanted, like, the college college experience. Like, I wanted to, like, go to class, do the sorority things like party, go to the frats. Like, I wanted that whole deal, so I love it for that. It is cool because, like, I'll be. I don't know. I was in Newport for the fourth, and you see someone else from U of A and they instantly come up to you and you have that connection. And I think I'll have that for the rest of my life, which is really cool. Like, it's a big school, but it's very, like, small Greek life and small groups, and you'll always have those connections. So that's cool. But I definitely go a little stir crazy being in Tucson.
Avery Woods
Yeah. Because you can't really leaving the campus. There's not much to do. So you're probably feeling kind of stuck. Yeah.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
There's like one or two, like, Pilates and yoga places, and it's kind of like black rock's the only coffee, you know?
Avery Woods
Yeah.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
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Avery Woods
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Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
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Avery Woods
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Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
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Avery Woods
Also, their coffee is legitimately so good.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
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Avery Woods
Yeah.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
Every time. So.
Avery Woods
So you're 20 years old. What are you studying?
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
Retail and consumer science.
Avery Woods
Why'd you choose that?
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
Okay. I started off as business, and it's just. I mean, yeah, it was hard. And, like, with doing social media on top of it, I was just like, I'm not gonna get good grades and I'm gonna have to put something on the back burner. And it was always school being put on the back burner. So now this major is a little more flexible and it's, like, fun and creative, and I can get good grades in school and do social media.
Avery Woods
Totally.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
So I was like, why not do that?
Avery Woods
I also think, you know, I always think back to, like, when I was your age or, like, 18, 19, like, I'll go on brand trips sometimes, and there's literally girls. I just graduated high school. It's crazy to me, really. And knowing how many millions of dollars a year they're making, I'm like, it would be so hard for me at that age to be motivated to go to school if I was making money on social media. So the fact that you're still in school, you're still studying, you're still going to continue on getting your degree on top of social media, you should be really proud of yourself because it's a lot to balance. And also, I think it's always important to have a backup plan and just to be able to be proud to have a degree. Like, that's a huge accomplishment.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
Yeah. Honestly, I put my, like, school life and, like, my normal college life before social media. And I feel like that's why sometimes I. I don't want to say miss out on opportunities, but, like, this is my third time in la, like, ever. Yeah. Whoa. Like, I've never done a podcast. I've been to. Like, I really haven't been to any events or anything like that because I would so much rather pick a rave with my friends or, like, a random Thursday night over doing something like that because I just don't think, like, I get this time period back.
Avery Woods
Yeah.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
And I think having, like, the actual experience of that and, like, those friends is just not something I want to miss out on.
Avery Woods
No, that's good. I think it's good to do that because you. Social media is so consuming, especially when it's your job and it's so hard to put your phone down sometimes. But I completely agree. Where you're never going to get this time back, this call, college life.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
Yeah.
Avery Woods
So it's important to focus on that and, you know, live in the moment.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
And that's the cool thing about going to U of A. Like, none of my friends, my real friends, do social media, so it's hard because they don't understand sometimes.
Avery Woods
Yeah.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
You know, like the. Like, you have to edit sometimes. I'm like, at dinner with one AirPod in, and I'm like, I gotta get this up. But it's also cool because they're not in that world. Like, we don't have to film anything. I just get that normal regular experience every day. Which is also why I think it makes me relatable, because I think a lot of times, like, people my age move to la, but all their followers are in college and doing the frat parties and doing all those things. So then they become unrelatable because they're living in la, whereas, like, I'm still the same as everyone else and I get to show that. So it kind of keeps me where, like, my fan, like, my supporters are at.
Avery Woods
Sure.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
Which I love.
Avery Woods
Growing up, do you feel like you had a normal childhood?
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
Yeah.
Avery Woods
Did you. What did you want to be when you grew up? What was your plan when you were younger or when you went to college?
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
Like, I always wanted to do something entrepreneurial, but, like, I always wanted to be, like, the boss or, like, in the spotlight. Like, I, like, I was gonna be like, a dermatologist, but I was gonna be, like, in aesthetics and, like, pink. Everyone in pink scrubs. Scrubs. And, like, I was the face of it. Like, it was always something like that. And then I was like a big YouTube kid. Like, watched the beauty gurus and saw them getting all the PR and everything, and I was like, that's what I want to be.
Avery Woods
You're like, I want free shit.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
Yeah.
Avery Woods
Yeah.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
So, like, I kind of always knew.
Avery Woods
When did you start social media? How old were you?
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
A freshman in high school.
Avery Woods
In high school?
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
Yeah.
Avery Woods
What were you posting? Was this, like, Instagram?
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
No, TikTok. It was during COVID You were freshman
Avery Woods
in high school during COVID Yes. I was pregnant, working in the icu, hating my life, and I said what the is tick tock? I said I can't keep up with another app. Are you kidding me? Okay, so you were freshman in high school and you started doing what on TikTok?
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
I think it started off as just like, cute little thirst trap videos, and then I would put words over it, but then I kind of figured out what words would get traction, and so I kept doing that, and then it kept growing off of that. And then I picked up on YouTube and started doing, like, YouTube vlogs. Yeah, and I would vlog, like, school soccer, like, stuff like that. And then I think I started doing vlogs on TikTok. And then that's when I started doing morning routines and stuff like that. And then that's kind of. And story times mostly, like doing my makeup, talking about my boyfriend, or random stuff.
Avery Woods
Those are my favorite videos to watch, by the way. Anytime I see you sitting down with that cute little blonde Bob doing a Garrett, and I said, oh, fuck, I'm locked in. I'm like, what's the drama at U of A right now? I'm like, my kids are screaming in the background like, hold on, Mommy needs to know what's going on in the college world.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
Wait, that's hilarious.
Avery Woods
When were you like, okay, this could be a job for me?
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
My senior year of high school, I got cheated on, and I made like a get ready with me about that, and that blew up, and I got a lot of. A lot more followers from that. And then I had a bunch of, I guess, like, what is it, like, agencies or like, like management teams?
Avery Woods
Yeah, yeah.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
Reaching out to me, being like, why do you not have a manager? Like, what? What are you doing? And that's when I was like, oh, wait, like, I'm not charging enough. Like, what am I doing? Like, I need help. And so that's when I really started to take it seriously.
Avery Woods
And are you still with your same management now? Yeah, that's. I feel like everyone kind of goes through that phase where unless you know someone on social media, like, everyone kind of goes into it. Very naive.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
Yeah.
Avery Woods
And I'll never forget the first meeting I had with my management. I was like, I'm sorry, how much you are you charging for what? Like, I could not believe the amount of money in it. And then you realize, like, wow, this is an actual business. So you were in high school when this happened? So how was your high school life? Like, how was the community around you? Did people give you for being on social media? Were they supportive?
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
I went to us. I wouldn't I don't know if it's considered small, but I went to a private school and so very tight knit. Everyone knew everyone. And I was definitely the YouTube tick tock girl. But I don't know, I would, I would wake up early before school, film my morning routines. I would drive to school and then in between every single class I had my headphones on, I had my hood up and I was. Would be editing in the hallways or like I would go take a bathroom break and sit in the courtyard and film my voiceovers and so that I had that video ready to post by 2:30 when I got out. Yeah. And like people definitely made comments about it, but I think they also thought it was so cool. So I was like, whatever.
Avery Woods
I feel like for at least myself and a lot of people I know in the beginning when you're trying to grow, people think it's so cringey or give you shit. But then once they see you successful, they're like, wait, how'd you do that? Like, wait, I want to be your friend or I want your pr. And I'm like, hey, you weren't nice to me in the beginning.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
I know, like, you don't deserve that. I think I was just kind of like, you'll get it when you get it. And you can make fun of me now, but like, I know the opportunities that I'm getting and I'm doing this at such a young age and like, I don't know, I just had the confidence for it and it made it fun. Like I would bring my Canon G7X to soccer practice and soccer games and I would like have everyone in the background and I just tried to like make it fun.
Avery Woods
What made you choose U of A? Being in Miami, I.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
So my best friend Gigi, she's a year a grade older than me. She goes to sdsu. So I thought about that, but we're just like so close. Like literally sisters. And I knew I would just be with her all the time and I wouldn't make my own friends or do my own thing. So then I started just looking at schools around that area. I thought ASU is super cool.
Avery Woods
Yeah.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
And then my mom was like, let's just go tour U of A also. And. And U of A is like the first school I got into. I got a good scholarship, so that played a role. And I don't know, just kind of.
Avery Woods
Yeah, it just kind of happened. I feel like U of A has that energy. Like when you're on the campus at U of A, you can feel that fun college energy. And I feel like some campuses, at least when I was back touring schools, you feel like that kind of catty girl energy from certain colleges, like, especially if you're rushing. But I don't feel like U of A really had that.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
Yeah. I was looking at the Instagram with for the incoming freshman to find a roommate and I looked at other schools and I remember scrolling through and being like, holy, like Facetune crazy. Like, yes. And I was like, I don't. I could not see myself being friends with any of these girls. And then I went to U of A and it's all these girls like on the beach or like, you know, they're cute senior photos from like random places. And I remember being like, wait, I could be best friends with any of these girls. They look like they would be my friend. And so that was like a huge part of it. And I still think that's true. I think the type of girls that choose to go to U of A want that community vibe and don't mind that it's in the middle of nowhere.
Avery Woods
Yeah.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
And I think that says something about the type of people they are and why it's been easy for me to make good friends there.
Avery Woods
Totally.
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Avery Woods
Did. I'm sorry, did you. Are you part of a sorority? Yeah. How do you like that?
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
I love it, actually.
Avery Woods
I feel like people either love it or they feel rejected because they didn't have a good experience when they were rushing.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
Yeah, I felt rush. I was obviously very nerve wracking for me because I'm coming in as like the social media girl. And I was like, people have preconceived notions of me, but I don't know, I felt very accepted in Alpha Phi and I had, it's Phi, not Phi Phi, but there's Phi Forever.
Avery Woods
When I asked you, I'm like, are you an Alpha Phi?
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
No, but Phi is spelled the same way. So like some sororities are Phi.
Avery Woods
Okay.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
It's like something else.
Avery Woods
Oh, that makes me feel better. Thank you.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
No, but I feel. I feel like Greek life. I have better experiences with girls in Greek life opposed to girls outside of it.
Avery Woods
Really.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
The girls outside of it, I feel like, are the ones that are making up mean rumors about me and, like, want to make it out that I'm the mean girl. Whereas, like, in my sorority community, like, everyone knows me. Like, I walk in the house and, like, I say hi to all the girls and they're like, wait, yeah, Avery's chill.
Avery Woods
What are they saying about you?
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
I saw something today that someone sent me. Literally, my Gigi Big sent it to me on my drive here.
Avery Woods
Let's set this shit straight.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
Let's see what it is.
Avery Woods
I'm like, give me her name.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
Az afee a is as bad. Avery cruel K R U E L goes there. Ann is literally so mean. Thinks cool pushes at frat parties. Blamed someone online for losing her camera, which was found went cray over missing pencil. Claims she's a health fit girl, but just pushes detox. Pushes, detoxes and multiple W o without, without, without day. I don't know. This is like, not real English.
Avery Woods
Well, first of all, I'm like, I'm actually genuinely concerned that she's in college.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
Speaking like that. Yeah.
Avery Woods
Number two, I think she's just mad that you're pretty unsuccessful. You know, you get a lot of that as you get. As you start growing.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
Yeah. The craziest one is like, there's this one rumor that cannot be dropped of me pushing someone at a frat party or something. And it's just so confusing to me because if you've ever been to a frat or a bar, it's like every.
Avery Woods
It's like sardines. It's like everyone's jammed through.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
Yeah. And it's like I get actually very over stimulated and anxious in those situations. Like, I've left huge parties like that early because it's very, very overwhelming for me. Also, when I was a freshman, there were times where I was probably pushing and running through the crowd to go to the bathroom and throw up. Yes. I was a mess.
Avery Woods
Yeah.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
Like, I'm like everyone else. I'm like any other girl in college, pushing to get through. Never would I ever shove someone to be mean. But you're only calling me out for, like, maybe pushing by because I have a. I have a TikTok. Whereas everyone else just, like, squeezing by.
Avery Woods
But you probably got pushed 10 times at that party. I would never say a word.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
No, but it's. It wouldn't Matter.
Avery Woods
The thing about social media is you automatically have a target on your back. And unfortunately, I do feel like you. Like, over time, especially for myself, I feel like I have had to change a lot about the way I carry myself in public, because I just know that no matter what I do or say, it will be held against me because I have a public platform. Yeah. And especially in college, when a lot of those girls are really young and still maturing and you still have, like, that petty jealousy because they're not. Their brains just aren't developed. Like, they're just so young that you're just an easy target. Which sucks, because it's like you just want to live your full, happy college life.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
And I learned it the hard way, like, coming into college as a freshman, never having experienced that before, like, I'd say my hometown. It's kind of the same situation where everyone knew everyone. So everyone already knew me. Like, if someone was saying hi to me, it's because they actually knew me, not because of Tick tock.
Avery Woods
Yeah.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
So I never had experienced girls coming up to me before, knowing me from TikTok or anything like that. And in general, I'd say, like, I'm a very chill, nonchalant person, so that's the same kind of interactions I would have. I would just be like, hey. And I learned the hard way that people don't take that as, like, chill and nonchalant. They take that as, like, kind of rude, in a sense. And luckily, my big. In my sorority has been in the spotlight for a while. Like, she does dance and those type of things, so she had experience with this, and she was like, avery, like, you need to make sure your experience. These people have a good experience with you. Like, just be. Be extra nice, you know? And it took me a while to, like, learn that, but I've. I've gotten used to it now. Like, I used to have really bad social anxiety, and that's gotten so much better with all the interactions I've had. And I'd say, like, now I. I don't really have any bad experiences. I feel like no one really says anything bad about me. Like, I feel like people. I have good conversations with them, and they say I'm nice, and they say how I am, how I am online. But it, like, would wreck me my freshman year of college when people would say, like, I wasn't nice or something.
Avery Woods
Also, like, I've left conversations from people, and I always try to, like. Like, I've never in my entire life said no to a photo. I. I will always try to ask their name or give them a hug. And there's. I've seen like comments before, like a long time ago because people realize, like, I will stand up for myself.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
Yeah.
Avery Woods
Like, I met her in person. She was the rudest person I've ever met. And I'll like, I have weird photographic memory. That's how I did so well in nursing school. And I remember seeing one girl and I was like, no, I remember you. And I, I complimented your bracelet and I asked your name and gave you a hug. Like, I just out of curiosity, what about this interaction would. Would make me rude? Immediately delete her comment. It's like they'll always find something to say, you know? So for the people that maybe don't know you or go to school with you and judge you because you're social media, how would you describe yourself?
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
I feel like I'm a really bubbly person, honestly. Like, I get excited over little things. I love to talk. Like, I'm a yapper. I don't like silence. So I can talk to anyone about anything. But I'm also like, laid back and I don't know, I can just chill.
Avery Woods
But what's something that you think your followers don't know about you that you would want them to know?
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
Personality wise? I'm a lot more like unfiltered maybe than I show online because there's a lot of things I just can't say because I'm young, you know, like, I can't really come on and say everything. And also, I've learned to protect myself a little more. Like in the beginning I would share a lot and now I'm like, oh, you know, I'd like to have a boyfriend one day. Like, if you share too much, guys don't want to talk to you or you start sharing things about your family and then it causes issues in your family. You talk about things friends do to you and they don't want to be your friend. So I've put a filter up a little bit more, but I'm very unfiltered in real life.
Avery Woods
Yeah, I've seen that. Where like a lot of my friends that are single on social media have told me that they'll match with someone on Raya or whatever. Isn't that like the high end dating app? Okay, I've been with my husband for a long time, so I'm not, I'm not educated on dating apps, but they'll tell me, like, I matched with this guy. We had great conversation. We're talking about Setting up a date. And then they found my social media and said, I don't want to go on a date with you because I know you'll share that experience online. Have you ever had that where someone is kind of worried to go out with you because you are so open about your dating experiences?
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
I'm sure that I. That's happened and I just don't know about it.
Avery Woods
So no one's, like, said anything.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
I had a guy that didn't want to hook up with me. Like, just his friends.
Avery Woods
Yeah.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
Because of social media, which I thought was really weird because I was, like, just going through a breakup. I was like, I kind of want to rebound here. Like, I want to have fun.
Avery Woods
And the best way to get over someone is laying under another person.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
Didn't want to because of my social media. Like, he didn't want the, like. And I was like, oh, he's.
Avery Woods
He's like, my ego, it's just. It's too big.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
Like, I can't. But because of that. Yeah. I literally haven't. I've gone on, like, one date since me and my ex broke up, and I haven't hooked up with anyone since my ex.
Avery Woods
When did you guys break up? Your ex?
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
In November.
Avery Woods
And this was, like, really public.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
Yeah.
Avery Woods
What. How long were you together?
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
We were together, like, on and off all throughout high school. So, like, what, freshman year of high school? Yeah. So, like. Yeah, it's years.
Avery Woods
Yeah. So you're on and off for years and he lives elsewhere.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
Yes.
Avery Woods
So it was long distance.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
Yeah.
Avery Woods
Did he cheat on you?
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
Yes. If I say no, people are going to be like, stand up, girl. Oh, like, I guess.
Avery Woods
Yeah. How'd you catch him
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
in my tick tock? Comments, actually.
Avery Woods
You're lying.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
Yeah, girl commented on my tick. I posted a super cute video talking about my boyfriend and how he's perfect and does no wrong. And she's like, girl, that's not what he was. That's not what he was. Texting my friend, like, saying so then you get that pit in your stomach where you're like, I'm gonna vomit. I can't even look right now. And then I go, like, I delete the comment. I'm like, this has to be a joke. Like, she's messing with me. Call my best friends. They're like, your boyfriend's perfect. He would never, like, you know, it's just a rumor. Like, he. He's obsessed with you. He would never do that. And I'm like, you're right. And then she comments again, like, I have the proof. Like, I tried to DM you. You didn't respond. So then I go DM her. I add her on Snapchat. She sends me the proof. And, like, even then, until I got the, like, paper proof, I still didn't believe it. Because that's how good of a guy he is.
Avery Woods
And you also are so in love with him.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
Yeah.
Avery Woods
Yeah.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
And so I remember, like, running to my room in my apartment and being like, this is, like, not happening to me right now.
Avery Woods
Sorry. You know what, though? I will tell you something. When I was 15 years old, I met my high school boyfriend. And that was the only person I dated until my husband.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
Yeah.
Avery Woods
And, I mean, I was. He was everything to me. Everything. And we were together for three and a half years. And I feel like sometimes I look back and I'm like, wow, I wasted so much of my life, like, primal life, like, so young, your age, in your shoes, on this one guy. And he did the same shit to me. He was the number one quarterback in the state. He was touring all these schools, and he went to go tour school, I think it was in Colorado that he did a scholarship offer at. And they came back, and he actually went on that tour with another one of his football players. And because he also got a scholarship, and that football player was one of my best friends. And he was like, I love him so much, but I also love you. And I'm gonna tell you what I saw him do at this party. And it was cocaine. It was, like, bad, bad drugs. He was hooking up with a bunch of girls. And, like, he took my virginity. He was my first love. Like, I was so head over heels with him, and. And then a bunch of other shit came out, and I just. It wrecked me. It wrecked me for so long. But I look back at that time, and I'm like, wow, I learned so much. And also I look at where I'm at in life and where he's at in life, and I'm like, everything happens for a reason. Like, it was meant to be. And I can empathize with you because I know that gut feeling, that gut punch, it's the fucking worst. But you are such a good person, and you're so confident in who you are. And as much as it sucks, like, reminiscing and speaking your truth, because I know even it's been, you know, over half a year, and it still makes you emotional. Cause it's not something you'll get over immediately. Like, it took me years to be able to feel like I recovered from that, but you're gonna come out so much stronger and also realize your worth and that there are so many guys
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Avery Woods
and know that and would never do that to you.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
Yeah.
Avery Woods
So I'm sorry. You don't deserve that.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
It's hard because people hate when I say this. Like, they want someone to, like, cheat on you or do something like that to you and you to, like, hate them and, like, destroy them. But, like, good people do bad things and it's hard. Like, I look back, oh, my God, what the heck?
Avery Woods
No, you're okay.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
You're fine. I look back and, like, I still am so proud of him. Like, he got drafted and I was so proud and I sent him a nice message and he was so grateful. He was like, I am so grateful for you supporting me all these years. And then it's funny, like, I'll get a tick tock comment. Someone commented on my tick tock. How do you feel that you could have been an MLB wife? And I just die laughing. When I broke up with him in high school, we ended up getting back together, obviously, and, like, dating another year in college. Everyone was, like, talking throughout the hallways like, Avery is the dumbest person for breaking up with him. She could have been an MLB wife. She could have been set for life. And I remember feeling like, you guys truly think that this is it for me. Like a guy. Like what? Like, I just, I just think it's crazy how people think that way.
Avery Woods
I also think it's crazy that people are trying to praise you. You counting on marrying a professional athlete to set yourself up forever when you're able to fully provide for yourself and then some. Like, you're able to have this business on social media at 20 years old, that you are a decade younger than me and you are setting yourself up for life to the point where someone's going to be praising a man that marries you. Like, period. Because your. Your wife's doing the thing and she's providing for herself and you and your family whenever that time comes. But the, the whole, like, sexist thing around that of being an MLB wife,
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Avery Woods
It's just. And. And I think I think the same about, you know, my high school boyfriend. I don't think he's a bad person at all. I just think that, first of all, men's brains do not develop for a long time. Like, I met my husband, he was 24. And I can very confidently say, like, him and I. This conversation where I'm like, it wasn't until you were at least 30 that I was like, okay, you're a mature man. Like, okay, this is. And it wasn't because he was doing stupid or like making mistakes. It was just a general maturity that men just don't have yet. And they're confident and they think they have it, but they don't. And that's just anatomy. That's just the way it works. So I just think that when they're young, young people in general, but especially young males, they want to experiment, they want to have fun, and they might up. That doesn't mean that they're horrible people. They're just human beings, you know? And don't get me wrong, there's been a million women that have also done stupid too. It's just, you know, you and I were affected by the male version of that.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
Like, people want me to like, hate on him and, and whatnot. And, and they're like, stand up. But it's like I left.
Avery Woods
Yeah.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
Like, I left over a Snapchat picture, you know, Like, I didn't stay. Like, I know right from wrong and like, what. I want a relationship. And at the end of the day, like, if you're gonna do that once, why am I gonna sign up for a lifetime of that? Even though I don't. I don't think if I forgave him, he would have done it again. But, like, I'm not going to take my chances. Like, there's so much more out there for me. But it is hard because I am a relationship person, so it was comfortable for me to be with him, someone I've been with for forever. Like, you're in a. You're on social media. It's. I felt like no one would ever date me and like, he was my support system. So, you know, leaving that behind is hard. And even now, like, being single has been hard for me because I don't really participate in like the hookup culture or anything like that. Not because I see anything wrong with it. It's just not who I am. Like, I don't, I don't know. I always have been a relationship, long term person. Like, I think probably the next person I date, I'll marry, like, just because that's who I am. So it's lonely. But being lonely is better than being with someone who, like, clearly doesn't respect you with their actions. Yeah.
Avery Woods
No, I think that you realized in that moment your worth and that you deserve more. And also, I think another thing on top of that is that you were also long distance which is difficult in itself. So it's like rebuilding trust again when you're living in two different places is really hard, you know. So did you just immediately confront him and he admitted it and then you ended the relationship?
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
He didn't admit it until I had like sent him proof and then he was like, yeah, but yeah, I'm sorry. Yeah, I was like, I can't fly there right now for this. I got my own stuff going on.
Avery Woods
Yeah.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
So yeah, you're busy.
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Avery Woods
So what do you see yourself doing after graduation? Like, what? Do you have a plan with social media? Do you have a plan outside of social media? Starting brands? What do you think you want to do?
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
I've always wanted to do something entrepreneurial. Like, I've been more into health and fitness recently.
Avery Woods
Yeah, your body's key.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
Thank you.
Avery Woods
I'm gonna need to talk to you about your workout routine, what you're eating, all that.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
I love that. I appreciate that. I work hard, so I'll take it. Like, I'm like, you know, I do. I do have to work for it. It's not like the genetic situation. Well, maybe a little bit. Played sports growing up, but, like, that's
Avery Woods
still hard work, though. Yeah.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
Like, no. I mean, I think opening a Pilates studio would be so cool.
Avery Woods
You would make it so cute. Yeah, aesthetic, too.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
Like, fun. I'm like, I need the Pilates studio. I want the locker room with the sauna and the smoothies and, like, something like that.
Avery Woods
Wait, you need to go to my Pilates studio.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
Wait, is it here?
Avery Woods
Yeah. So there's my location, which is in Calabasas, but then they're opening one in Malibu, and they have one in West Hollywood. It's called Be Kind Studios. And by the way, I pay for a membership in full. I'm not, like, paid to say this or anything, and my membership isn't. Isn't comped, but I literally tell everyone, first of all, I love it because no one can film in there, so it's completely private. When I worked out of my Pilates studio in Arizona, people would literally wait outside my classes because they could see me through the glass and take photos of me during my workouts. Like, it was a whole thing. And. And I loved the studio, but I was like, I just don't feel like I have any privacy. So this one's very, very private, but it's so esthetically pleasing. It's attached to a coffee shop, which has, like, the best coffee ever. And then inside the suit, they also have a coffee shop, and then they sell Elwood clothing, but, like, all embroidered with our studio name. It's. You would love It.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
I would love that. Yeah, that's the cool thing about la. They have all, all the things.
Avery Woods
Yeah.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
And you don't really get that anywhere else. But then I'm like, I don't know if I could ever live in la.
Avery Woods
Yeah, I said the same thing. I just was so tired of traveling. And like, I will say, as work picks up, especially on social media and also like having a podcast, everyone lives here. So, like, everyone I interview is pretty much LA based. But my husband and I are both from here. We're just from different parts of California and LA is kind of in the middle.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
So like all my family, if you're in like, I'm assuming you're in like the suburbs, like in a house.
Avery Woods
Yeah, I'm not. I'm not in the city.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
I'd be like in the city, in an apartment, going to Erewhon and like twiddling my thumbs all day. And like, I just, I don't know.
Avery Woods
You wouldn't be twiddling your thumbs out because you would be so busy with stuff.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
Really? That's true.
Avery Woods
Like, all my, like, young single friends in this industry live like West Hollywood, Beverly Hills, like, they have fun. They go on walks every day. They go, There's a new. There's. You could go to a new restaurant every day and never run out of places to go.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
That's true. I was just like at Revice, trying on jeans and stuff and he was like, are you gonna be in New York for Fashion Week? I was like, what?
Avery Woods
You never gone? Oh, you should talk to your management. You definitely.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
I've never done anything. I'm like, what do you. Why would you expect that I would be there? You should go and then like, be in school. I don't know.
Avery Woods
Oh, yeah, that's true. I'm like, I forget. You're like a responsible student. I was gonna say, let's go, we can meet up.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
I know. Oh, I've been about switching to online,
Avery Woods
but I would see, like, I know myself and I would never finish.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
Yeah, I'm like, motivated enough. There's so much more coursework when it's online versus showing up in class and like just listening to the lecture. So I don't know if that's the best idea for me. And then I'm like, okay, I have two more years of school. I'll probably study abroad. Like, I can make it through.
Avery Woods
Yeah, if you did abroad, that would be so cool. But also like, yeah, you're 50 done. I know. Just get it. Just go. And you'll be Good. But no, there's, there's so. I'm so excited for you because I feel like you have so much life to live, but also, like, as your socials grow, the amount of experience and opportunity you'll have.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
No, I know. I feel so behind right now because I feel like sometimes I could be growing and doing way more things than I'm doing. Like, I'm like, I should be posting on this. Like, I don't have an Instagram post, like, whatever. But then I try and like give myself grace that, like, I'm literally 20. Like, I'm trying to also have a normal life and say yes to things with my friends. And I feel like I'm doing enough, I'm doing good enough at least.
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Avery Woods
You're not doing enough. You're doing a lot and you need to give yourself grace because being a full time student in itself is very difficult.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
Yeah.
Avery Woods
And people can say whatever they want about social media, but at the end of the day, it's a business. You're running your own business and you wanted to be an entrepreneur and your own boss and that's what you're doing.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
Yep.
Avery Woods
You know, okay, so possibly something in fitness, maybe Pilates.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
Yeah.
Avery Woods
Anything else that you. What's like, what's like a crazy 10 year goal?
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
See, as much as like, I have this side of me that's like, I want to be a boss ass, like, I really want to like, get married and have kids. Like, I've always wanted to be a mom. Like, I am one of those people that's like, no, that was born to be a mom.
Avery Woods
That was me.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
And I like, I want to like, I love watching you and I've also always like followed you for forever. But I like watching like mom influencers like you because I think it's so beautiful to see like a happy family, a happy healthy marriage. Like, that's a goal for me. I like watching you as like, this is what I want in the future. So, like, that would be my number one priority other than that 10 year goal. Like, own my own house.
Avery Woods
Just, just for 20. Like, you're so responsible. Like, you should be really proud of yourself. I. I think, I also think you know that. So that was me when I was. My mom always jokes around. When I was like four, I had like 30 baby dolls and they all had the same name, Sarah. I don't know why, but like, my mom was like, I was genuinely concerned because like your whole childhood they're like, what do you want to be when you grow up. And I just say a mommy. Like, I always wanted to be a mom. I got married at 21. Everyone thought I was knocked up. I wasn't. I just. I found the love of my life, and we got married, and we were happy. And then I had my first baby at 23, planned. Everyone's like, are you okay? I'm like, no. I tried. Like, I wanted to have a baby, and now I feel like at 30, I'm in literally one of the best stages of my life because we have our dream home that we're renovating. I'm done having kids, but my kids are at such a fun age. But I'm still young enough to, like, travel with them, run around with them, have fun. But I can also, like, own my business and provide for my family, and that's what you have to look forward to. And I also think there's such. This. This negative stigma about social media and, like, it going away or it's not. There's no longevity behind it. I don't believe that. As long as you're consistent, you have good work ethic, which you do. You're gonna be just fine.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
Yeah. No, I told my mom my whole entire life, I was like, I'm getting married by 23. Like, now. I don't know if that'll happen. And she was always like, no, you're not. No, you're not. Just wait, just wait. Just wait. Now that I'm getting older, I'm like, yeah, Like, I could wait, but I don't know. I always saw that for myself. Like, I always also. Yeah, I always saw myself getting married young, having a lot of kids. Like, I don't know. I just think that's fun. Like, I think you can live your life with kids. I think that adds to your life. I think that will be my best part of my life. I know not everyone feels that way,
Avery Woods
but I literally did an interview yesterday, and we were talking about this because it was someone that is. I think she's just turned 30 or is young. Young, early 30s. And she was talking about her husband and her talking about when they want to have kids. And I. She was kind of saying the same of, you know, she loves that I'm able to, you know, be my own person, but also be a mom. And I think there's so much negativity around becoming a mom that your life, like, goes away. You lose yourself. You know, you can't focus on yourself. And I literally told her, I said, I don't feel like I Truly thrived in life until I became a mother. And the key is just to have kids and add them as an addition to your already existing life and not change your entire life around your kids. And of course, your kids will be your whole life. But it's schedule, it's traveling, it's you bring them with you. I'm like, it is so much more fun for me to travel the world and include my children than to not include them. Like, to give them those opportunities and, like, see them see the world for the first time. Like, I wasn't traveling the world until I was like, I don't know, 28, you know?
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
Yeah, that's how I feel about it. And also, like, I grew up with my mom. My mom always worked. She. I don't know, she, like, we. We were her first priority, obviously, but she is so smart, so into her career. There were so many times where she was like, maybe I should just be a stay at home mom. Like, I could. Like, I could do this for you guys. But then she always taught me and my sister the importance of having your own thing going on. Like, she's so smart, and it would be such a waste for her to not use that in some way. And seeing her, like, do it all. Be at every soccer game, groceries, dinner, working, like, what a badass. Intelligent conversations around me 247 that I always heard. It made me be like, wait, yeah, like, I am. Honestly, I was like, I'd have a stay at home husband before I was a stay at home mom. Like, yep, I want to be a mom. But, like, you can do it all.
Avery Woods
You really can. And I also love. Like, I think about that sometimes on hard days, but I always think in the end it will pay off to know that my kids were able to see that. And so I love your perspective that you're able to see that and witness that.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
No, you'll create. Like, your daughters will be so motivated because of that. Like, my friends with moms that work, I don't know, I think we're just kind of a different breed because we saw our moms do it all, and we're like, oh, we can do it all.
Avery Woods
Yep.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
I appreciate that from my mom so much.
Avery Woods
What does your mom do?
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
She does marketing.
Avery Woods
Oh, nice. Yeah. So she knows.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
She knows. Oh, my God. Every day she's like, come up with a business plan. Oh, I'm gonna do this. And I'm like, okay. But I want something I'm really passionate about. Like, I want it to be something special.
Avery Woods
But you guys can be Business partners.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
I know. I'm like. When I come up with a plan, I want you to quit your job and like, we'll do something together.
Avery Woods
Yeah, you could.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
I don't want her, like.
Avery Woods
Okay, just out of curiosity, because I didn't live like the four year college life, I want to know what like a typical day looks like for you.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
Okay. A typical day with class. Last semester I had class every single day at 9am which sucked.
Avery Woods
So I give it to you. Did you work out before? Would. Do you work out before or after class?
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
In the middle. In between.
Avery Woods
Oh, you have gaps.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
Yeah.
Avery Woods
Okay.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
I had the weirdest gap. So waking up at 8, clearing all the bottles off of my kitchen counter so I can film a get ready. So I can film a morning vlog without a disgusting kitchen.
Avery Woods
I love, I love the behind the scenes, like, realistic side of this. Amazing.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
Going to class, trucking to class, come back from class, go to Pilates or a workout or something. Come back from that quickly, make some food, walk to class again, walk back from class, do homework, film like vlog, film anything I need to get done. And then usually like dinner at my sorority or I make dinner or something and then it's like, do you live
Avery Woods
in a sorority house or like an apartment?
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
I live in an apartment.
Avery Woods
Is it by yourself?
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
I lived with five roommates last year.
Avery Woods
Oh, my God, that's so interesting. Because our family friends, we just moved. David was literally gone till midnight last night because he went to move her in to her new place at USC and hung everything on her wall. So cute. He's such a dad. But she also has a bunch of roommates, but they have this really cute apartment where they all have their own rooms and then kind of like a conjoined living space. Is that kind of what it is?
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
Yeah, that's what it was like. It was six bedrooms, six bathrooms, and it was a lot.
Avery Woods
Unless you all have your own bathrooms.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
Yeah.
Avery Woods
Oh, that's kind of nice.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
I'm doing four though this semester, so it's four of us, two bathrooms.
Avery Woods
Okay.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
But I think it'll be a lot better because, I mean, our apartment last semester was just like the party apartment, which honestly was so fun.
Avery Woods
Until you have to clean it all up.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
Yeah. Every single time. And then we just stopped cleaning and then it just builds up and it's like a lot. But no, that was, that was fun. And that was fun for like, sophomore year. I wanted to like, do the party thing, but now I'm like ready to have the, like, cooking dinner and like, Chilling on the couch apartment.
Avery Woods
Like slow, slow. Yeah, yeah.
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Avery Woods
Okay. Has there ever been a trend that you have regretted jumping on lip filler?
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
Like, a lot of lip filler. I did that, like, girl, right when I. The choir graduated high school, and, oh, my God, I. I had so much lip filler. And then I went to college and I was binge drinking.
Avery Woods
I don't remember you having a bunch of filler.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
Oh, I'll show you pictures, because your
Avery Woods
lips look perfect now.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
Yeah. They're like, I haven't touched them since that era, but oh, my gosh. I think the alcohol and just the swelling from eating out all the time.
Avery Woods
Yeah.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
Blew them up. Oh, yeah. And so I remember feeling like I literally was like, I need chin lipo. I need a nose job, like, all these things. And then I stopped drinking so much and, like, was healthier, and I'm fine. I'm like, I don't want to touch my face anymore. But did I need that much filler at 18? Absolutely not.
Avery Woods
Yeah. I was 21 when I started getting filler, and I was like, what was I thinking? We literally talked about this yesterday. I said, all of you guys are fired for not telling me how bad, like, I look. Like I got stung by a million bees. And then if I, like, if Dave and I had date night, we, like, drank a whole bottle of wine. And then I woke up the next morning, I was so puffy. Yeah, crazy puffy.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
Because it's. It fills up with water, right? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. So that gave me, like, face dysmorphia. I should have, like, waited until I was a little more mature.
Avery Woods
Really?
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
I would have done so much stuff if I didn't have a close relationship with my mom. Like, thank God. I trust her opinion. And we're best friends. She's Told me not to do so many things that I would regret because I had being on social media, I had an access to, like, money that not most 18 year olds had. They have to ask permission to go get filler and plastic surgery. Yeah. But I had permission. Like, I got a consultation for a boob job my freshman year of college. I ubered there from my dorm to get a consultation for a boob job. I scheduled the surgery that same day that I got the consultation. I had, like, the packet and everything with the photos of how it would look. And I called my mom. I'm like, I'm doing it. She was like, just think about it. Just wait till Christmas break and I can take care of you. You never know how your body's gonna change, what's gonna happen. And I was like, okay, I really trust my mom's opinion. She's my best friend. I'm not gonna do it. And, like, thank God. I wanted so many things. I want a nose job. Like, I wanted all this crazy stuff.
Avery Woods
Nose job. Your nose is perfect.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
I was just insecure when I got into college. I think I, like, got slapped into college. Yeah. And all of a sudden it's like, you see all these girls with boobs and, like, this and the most beautiful girls in the world. And I was like, I need to change everything about myself. And now I'm like, thank God I didn't do that. Yeah. At such a young age.
Avery Woods
Okay. A lot of people that follow you are your same age kind of in college. What would you tell someone going through their first big breakup?
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
I feel like I had such good advice when I was going through it, and now I'm like. So I like trauma block things. So I like, don't even associate it, but I would just say, like, if you felt this much love for that person, imagine how much you can feel for the next person who's actually right for you. And think about how much more is, like, out there for you and for you to experience. Did you want to experience the rest of your life, like, with this same person that it clearly didn't work out with? Like, I love that.
Avery Woods
That's perfect.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
Yeah. Yeah.
Avery Woods
And also, you know, like I was saying to you before, it's, you now know your worth. Like, as much as it sucks to learn that lesson, you also know what to look out for and, like, know the love that you deserve.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
Yeah.
Avery Woods
You know. Okay. We like to do a little rapid fire at the end. You ready? We have five crazy questions for you. Go to late night snack.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
Popcorn. But, like, I literally talked about caramel corn.
Avery Woods
Oh, my God. I literally talked about this yesterday that I was saying when I take a gummy and I have the munchies, I eat popcorn.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
I love anything small and crunchy. I think it's an ADHD thing. It's like, I need the, like, crunch, but, like, caramel, like, nuts or, like, caramel popcorn.
Avery Woods
Yum.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
Oh, my favorite.
Avery Woods
I do movie theater butter popcorn, like, in the bags. But then I do, because I like sweet and salty kettle corn and ranch seasoning.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
Yum. Yeah, I literally do that all the time, so fire.
Avery Woods
Okay. If you could instantly master any skill, what would it be?
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
I want to be better at networking. Okay. Like, you know how people can just, like, make connections and get a phone number and then they text that person when they're like, I'm not good at that at all. I suck at, like, reaching out or, like, I don't know.
Avery Woods
I feel like you are a little bit shy. Yeah. You're a little bit on the shy side until you warm up.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
Yeah.
Avery Woods
But I feel like you are also. I feel like, compared to your content, you're really chill.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
Okay.
Avery Woods
You're a very, like, chill person. But you know what? I'm that same way. And people. And this is kind of why I understand why, you know, mean girls in college are being mean girls. But, like, people can take that as, like, me having RBF or being rude, but I. I'm kind of like an observer. Like, I sit back quietly and I just kind of chill unless I, like, you know, have a few drinks. But I feel like you're much more calm.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
Everyone's been saying that to me recently. Like, you just, like, seem so chill and go with the flow. And I think almost people have made me feel like I'm not like that because of how I present myself on social media, that I'm almost shocked when people say that. And then I think back and I'm like, wait, yeah, I'm pretty, like, chill. I don't know. Just you're seeing short clips, and I'm here to entertain you. So, like, totally. I'm not going to be boring on social media, but in real life, I'm definitely not, like, jumping in your face. Yeah.
Avery Woods
But I also think that that speaks to your maturity because people at your age aren't like that.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
Yeah.
Avery Woods
So, yeah, you're just.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
You're calm.
Avery Woods
Okay. If you had to delete every app but one, which one stays TikTok, right? Really? I hate TikTok. I think TikTok's so mean. I Just think it's the meanest app. Like, Instagram feels like my safe space.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
Really?
Avery Woods
Yeah. But this is your decision.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
I mean, no, I think TikTok stays. Everything else goes.
Avery Woods
Okay. I also think, like, your generation is, like, very Tick tock, Snapchat heavy.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
Yeah.
Avery Woods
Whereas mine is like. Mine's like YouTube, Instagram.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
Okay.
Avery Woods
Like, that's like my. My generation.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
I get that.
Avery Woods
Yeah. Like, I love long form content.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
Oh, I hate Snapchat. If a guy, like, asks me for my Snapchat, I won't respond.
Avery Woods
Okay. I'm so glad we're talking about this, because this guy over here, his name's Scott Hatch. Next full of hickeys, by the way. Tell me why this man has to speak to every man on Snapchat and he's like, I'm gonna spend the rest of my life with him. Scott, you don't have his phone number. You literally talk on Snapchat. How can you say that when you don't even text? And he's like, it's because we want to see each other's faces. I said, no, it's because those photos disappear. Don't fuck with me.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
Okay. I'm putting this on the record. If a guy asks me for my Snapchat, I am instantly turned off and I'm not responding.
Avery Woods
Thank you. Thank you.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
You're not finding your husband doing that.
Avery Woods
Thank you. I appreciate that.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
Has got to stop.
Avery Woods
He also is not going to find his husband on Grindr, so it's just a double whammy. The combination.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
I don't think I'm finding mine on Raya, so.
Avery Woods
Oh, really? Yeah. All my friends are on there. And I'm like, that's just crazy. Some people are on there too. And I'm like, are you qualified to be on the app?
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
You can really put anything on there. Like, as long as you put, like, investment banker, you're in.
Avery Woods
Oh, my God. Yeah. If you ever go to New York. Oh, you're from Jersey, so you get everyone there is.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
Yeah.
Avery Woods
In finance. Yeah. Everyone's a finance.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
That's all the guys have to put and then they're good.
Avery Woods
Oh, please.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
Not that we should tell anyone that, but okay.
Avery Woods
Speaking of Tick Tock, what's the weirdest thing you've bought because of Tick Tock?
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
Oh, my gosh.
Avery Woods
Do you ever do Tick Tock shop? Do you ever buy anything on there?
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
I like all the food. Like, I like buying, like, the weird, like, food.
Avery Woods
Yeah. I buy, like, Bulldog.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
Yeah. Like the sour candy.
Avery Woods
Swedish candy.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
Yeah. Oh, I've never Tried that.
Avery Woods
Oh, I'm gonna send.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
But I go add like a bunch of stuff to my cart and I'm like, I'm gonna buy this all to do a TikTok taste test. And that's just like an excuse for me to buy all the stuff.
Avery Woods
Yeah, I do that too. I'll take a gummy. And everyone's like, I know you're gardening. And I'm like, no way. I am. Yeah. Yeah, I am. Okay, what's your go to coffee order?
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
Iced vanilla latte with almond milk. That's what I drank yesterday. Really?
Avery Woods
Is that what you get at blackrock?
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
Yeah, usually with cold foam. Cold foam is so good at Blackrock.
Avery Woods
Is it the. I've never had their cold foam.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
You have to get. I get the salted caramel cold foam.
Avery Woods
That's what I get it. Okay. Well, I don't really like Starbucks anymore, but I just feel like there's coffee kind of went downhill.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
Yeah, I'll go there.
Avery Woods
I was getting their salted caramel cold foam on my double shaken espresso, but I didn't know Black Rock had that.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
They have the best cold foam.
Avery Woods
Not me having a drink there and not knowing that.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
Yeah, you have to get that next time.
Avery Woods
Okay, I'm gonna get that. Okay. Well, this is really fun. You know what? I. I always get so email at the end because I feel like I am old enough to be your mother. Not really, but I feel an immense amount of. I just feel very proud of you. I think you're doing so many amazing things and I think back to when I was your age and I was not doing anything you're doing, and you should just be really proud of that. And I know it's probably really hard and you're at such a busy stage of life, but you're doing everything right and you should give yourself some grace. Because I know it probably feels hard to keep up with what everyone's doing, but also being a student and not a lot of people can do that successfully, so you're doing an amazing job.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
Thank you. I look up to you so much. I think you're a great example for girls my age. And like, you're the coolest, so.
Avery Woods
No, you are. And you'll find your man. You'll be. You'll live happily ever after. I'll come to the wedding.
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Avery Woods
Can't wait for that moment. I'm like inviting myself. I'm like, I'll be the flower girl. But yeah, next time you're in la, let me know because I'D love to host you at the new house. And yes, when you're of age we can have a nice bottle of wine because she's telling you guys she can't
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
drink alcohol when I'm of age.
Avery Woods
Thank you for being here. I appreciate it.
Guest (Young Social Media Influencer)
Thank you for having me.
Avery Woods
Cheers guys.
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Episode: throwback | avery kroll
Date: March 30, 2026
Host: Avery Woods
Guest: Avery Kroll (young social media influencer, college student at University of Arizona)
In this heartfelt and candid episode, host Avery Woods sits down for a lively conversation with fellow Avery (Avery Kroll), a rising social media personality and student at the University of Arizona. The two Averys discuss everything from the quirks of having an uncommon name to navigating college life, social media pressures, relationships, personal growth, and future ambitions. With open dialogue and mutual admiration, the episode offers a look at life as a young influencer in 2026 and the realities behind the online persona.
"Avery Kroll goes there and is literally so mean, thinks she’s cool, pushes at frat parties..." (19:03)
Host Avery asks the guest five quick questions to close out:
The episode is warm, encouraging, and funny, blending real talk about insecurity, success, and self-image with motivational support across generations. Both Averys are open about struggles—college pressure, maintaining authenticity, heartbreak, rumors, and mental health—but strike a positive outlook on personal growth and future possibilities.
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