Crossing Boundaries

Summary

Chrisley Confessions 2.0: "Crossing Boundaries"

PodcastOne | July 15, 2026
Hosts: Todd and Julie Chrisley

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Episode Theme & Overview

In this episode of Chrisley Confessions 2.0, Todd and Julie Chrisley dive into the everyday challenges of marriage, touching on family dynamics, personal boundaries, and their recent headline-grabbing opinions. True to the “2.0” promise, the conversation is deeply personal, unfiltered, and often humorous, offering listeners a candid window into life inside the Chrisley home. Major topics include their ongoing “husband vs. wife” debates around procrastination and responsibility, the emotional weight of news and social media, boundaries in family relationships, and a detailed hot take on judicial misconduct in the headlines.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Marital “Procrastination” Debate

[00:00 – 07:39]

• Todd opens by confronting Julie over being a procrastinator, recounting a morning spat about ordering his favorite shirts and setting up a family trip.
• Todd: “Because you’re a procrastinator...then I have to keep—let’s just make this episode about the confusion between a husband and a wife.”** [00:06]
• Julie defends herself, explaining her daily responsibilities and the chaos of managing the household for their large family.
• Both highlight the tension between Todd’s self-claimed “self-sufficiency” and his frequent requests for help.
• They poke fun at Todd’s lack of tech skills post-prison and Julie’s “scatterbrained” tendencies, laying bare the real-life negotiations and miscommunications many couples face.

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2. Family Vacation Logistics & Classic Chrisley Banter

[01:19 – 12:05]

• Debate escalates over making travel arrangements for the entire family, including kids, Todd’s mother, and other relatives.
• Quote:
  • Todd: “If I say, okay, Julie, I’m willing to go away for a month, we all know I’m paying for it...at that point, the responsibility falls to you to get it taken care of, right?” [01:19]
• Julie breaks down the complexity of organizing a group trip and the unpredictable challenges.
• Todd minimizes the work: “It’s really one text message to your agent...” [06:02]
• They swap playful jabs about manipulation and truth-stretching in their retellings, with Todd claiming “For 4.7 minutes y’all believed she was manually physically doing labor to do this.” [06:13]
• Memorable moment: Todd celebrates a rare apology from Julie, joking, “Time in 30 years, I’ve gotten an apology.” [07:37]

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3. Scatterbrained or ADHD?

[07:42 – 08:26]

• The couple reflect lightheartedly on Julie’s self-diagnosed “adult ADHD” and its impact on her organization.
  • Julie: “Yeah, I think maybe I have adult ADHD. I was listening to a podcast, and...that is one of the telltale signs.” [07:52]
• Todd jokes that blame now rests on podcast hosts Bill and Juliana, showing the intertwining of their daily lives and pop culture references.

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4. News, Social Media, and Crossing Emotional Boundaries

[08:33 – 16:11]

• Todd humorously critiques Julie (and Savannah) for always bringing up bad news and sad stories, especially ones related to missing or harmed children.
  • Todd: “For 20 years, Julie, don't tell me nothing sad about a baby, a child, or old people...That's my boundary. Why do you cross that boundary?” [15:16]
• Julie agrees to stop sharing such stories, mocking a trade: “Just like you’re not going to send me any more recipes. I won't mention anything else bad to you, okay?” [15:39]
• They tease each other’s Internet and content preferences:
  • Todd: “Do you know what's in my [Instagram] algorithm? Babies...real estate...food for Julie. Is that not what's on my page?” [10:40]
  • Julie: “Yes, folks, that he does every night, sends it in the middle of the night. I want this tomorrow.” [10:40]

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5. The Judge Eleanor Ross Scandal & Judicial Accountability

[17:06 – 42:29]

• Todd delivers an extensive, fiery commentary on Judge Eleanor Ross’s recent recusal from a high-profile federal case and surrounding misconduct allegations, including perjury and inappropriate relationships with an Atlanta Police Department officer.
• Quote:
  • Todd: “I don't give a damn if she got her back blowed out in the basement of her church. I don't care. But she lied in her investigation, and that is what she sends people to prison for, for perjury.” [17:35]
• Todd outlines the reasons cited for Ross’s impeachment proceedings: conflicts of interest, attending partisan events, and lying under investigation. He rails against double standards, stressing that judges should be held to the same laws they enforce.
• Julie weighs in thoughtfully: “I do not feel like you can be focused on what you’re doing when you have that...anticipation or sneaking around...your mind is obviously not focused on your job. And I just feel like her job should be held at such a higher place because you do have someone’s life in your hands.” [34:02]
• The hosts draw parallels to their own criminal case, reflecting on the personal trauma caused by judicial overreach, lack of attention to detail, and arbitrary sentencing.
• Discussion also covers the case of 98-year-old Judge Pauline Newman, judicial lifetime appointments, and the problem of judges policing themselves:
  • Todd: “These lifetime appointments, this woman...she’s going to make sure she fulfills that.” [39:36]
  • Todd: “But the most troubling part of that is that the judiciary can police itself.” [39:59]
• Todd’s high-energy delivery and wit are on full display, especially when he draws wild analogies and throws in colorful asides (e.g., “trying to see if the soles of her feet could touch the ceiling” about the judge’s alleged affairs) [41:54].

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6. Political Sidebar: Foreign Policy & Domestic Cynicism

[42:32 – 44:26]

• Briefly turns to current headlines about U.S.-Iran relations, gas prices, and political hypocrisy.
  • Todd: “We supposedly have a deal now with Iran, and that gas is going to be cheaper because that’s all anyone in our country is worried about...We’re not worried about women being treated like garbage over there...” [42:32]
• Todd criticizes both political parties and reflects on the cost of war, shifting the focus to the real human impact and media spin.

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7. Spirited Closing & Chrisley Humor

[44:26 – End]

• Julie insists on ending on a positive note, prompting Todd to sing “Jesus Loves Me” tongue-in-cheek.
• Todd: “Jesus loves me. This I know. Okay, for the Bible tells me so. Is that kind of what you were looking for?” [44:31]
• The Chrisleys sign off with their signature blend of banter, sass, and affection.

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• On boundary-crossing:
  • Todd: “That's my boundary. I don't want to know nothing about no child being hurt. Why do you cross that boundary?” [15:34]
• On the marriage dynamic:
  • Julie: “You act like that is something that can be done at the drop of a hat...but it's never that easy.” [04:21]
• On judicial responsibility:
  • Julie: “I do not feel like you can be focused on what you’re doing...Your mind is obviously not focused on your job...that should be alarming to anyone.” [34:02 – 35:34]

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Notable Timestamps

• 00:06: Todd introduces “husband vs. wife” confusion/procrastination debate.
• 01:19: Disagreement over who should handle travel logistics.
• 04:47: Todd admits he can't use a computer after prison.
• 07:52: Julie jokes about having adult ADHD.
• 15:16: Todd lays down his emotional boundaries about sad news.
• 17:35: Todd’s scathing summary of the Judge Ross scandal.
• 34:02: Julie’s thoughtful take on judicial responsibility.
• 39:36: Discussion about Judge Pauline Newman and lifetime appointments.
• 44:31: Todd’s humorous sign-off.

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Episode Tone

• Unfiltered: The Chrisleys pull no punches, with Todd’s bluntness and Julie’s honest defensiveness running throughout.
• Humorous: Jabs, playful mockery, and Chrisley-style exaggeration.
• Reflective: Especially concerning judicial fairness, trauma, and family dynamics.
• Conversational: Lots of back-and-forth, sidebars, and real-life asides.
• Supportive but candid: Occasional tensions give way to warmth, apologies, and inside jokes.

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Summary

"Crossing Boundaries" is a quintessential Chrisley Confessions episode: equal parts family therapy, marital tug-of-war, and newsy soapbox. Todd and Julie bicker and banter about the complexities of married life, emotional boundaries, and modern family management, ultimately shining a light on larger social issues (from judicial hypocrisy to viral negativity). Their trademark humor and unfiltered commentary keep things lively and relatable, offering listeners a front-row seat to the authentic Chrisley dynamic.

For fans and newcomers alike, this episode delivers sharp insight, belly laughs, and food for thought—“the honesty you know, the humor you missed, and the connection that’s never left.”

Transcript

[A]

Welcome to Chrisly Confessions 2.0. How are you today?

[B]

Good.

[A]

It's been a little bit stressful this morning.

[B]

Yes, it has.

[A]

Because you're a procrastinator. I say that I want to have things taken care of, and you put those on the back burner. And then I have to keep. Let's just make this episode about the. What is it? The. The confusion between a husband and a wife.

[B]

Okay?

[A]

Okay.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

So, folks, the way things work in our life is that I say, Julie, this. And keep in mind, folks, I don't like to travel. I can stay at home and never go anywhere. Would you agree with that?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Okay, who likes to travel in our family?

[B]

I like to travel. Sometimes.

[A]

You like to travel? Ass on fire. You like to travel, right? Okay, so. So if I don't like to travel, and you do like to travel. So folks, what I would like to do is I'd like to set this up where you can come back so that we can answer this next week. I would like to know that if I say, okay, Julie, I'm willing to go away for a month. If I say I'm willing to go away for a month, we all know I'm paying for it.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

So then that the. The. At that point, the responsibility falls to you to get it taken care of, right?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Okay, so let me ask you something. How many times do I say, julie, I need you to take care of this? How many times?

[B]

Say it a lot.

[A]

How many times do I have to come to you and repeat, julie, I need you to take care of this?

[B]

There are certain times you do. Yeah.

[A]

Over and over, right?

[B]

Not over and over, but certain things.

[A]

Didn't we just have an issue this morning in the closet about shirts?

[B]

Okay.

[A]

And I just said, you what, four days ago, Judah, please order me six of these shirts because I like this shirt. Right. This morning. And I said you did you order me those shirts?

[B]

I'm sure I was doing 50 other things, too.

[A]

She is so. She is such a liar when it comes to. She's where my kids get it from when she's confronted. I know that I did that. I'm sure that I ordered.

[B]

Well, it was just one of the

[A]

things that makes you look crazy.

[B]

50,000 things that you have me order. You act like that's the only thing you've asked me to order or to do. That's it. That's all. It's all.

[A]

Let me ask you something. I pretty much am self sufficient. Would you agree with that or would you not? Because this is. This Is an open conversation. If you don't agree with that, I want you to say you don't agree

[B]

sufficient on certain things.

[A]

Okay. So what do I ask of you? As your husband? What do I ask of you?

[B]

Well, I make sure that you have food. I make sure that all the meals are done.

[A]

That falls in the same category. So that's one category.

[B]

I make sure that the laundry's done.

[A]

We just had an issue with that this morning when you was arguing with.

[B]

That was out of my control because we have all these people in our house, but go ahead. Yeah. You asked me to do a lot of things on a daily basis.

[A]

You said you do a lot of things, and you do laundry.

[B]

Yes, I do. But I do a lot more things for you. I take care of your mother. Everything that she has to have.

[A]

Well, that's. No, she's not just my mother. She is your co conspirator. So y' all two are in it together.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

Anyway, I take care of our children. Go ahead.

[A]

I ask you, Julie, can you order this for me?

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Because we all know that. Listen, I went to prison and never knew how to use a damn computer. So I came home, and I'm no smarter with it.

[B]

You asked me numerous times a week to order you stuff.

[A]

And how I do that. And how long does it take you to order it? Well, if you stopped right then and

[B]

did it, most of the time, you have it within a couple days.

[A]

Right. But what I'm trying to get to is if I have to keep saying, did you do this?

[B]

Right.

[A]

It's just not worth it at that point.

[B]

Okay?

[A]

It's either. I need to learn to do it, and that's one less thing that you do for me. And you get pissy when I don't ask you to do something.

[B]

No, it's not. It's the tone in which you just infer certain things.

[A]

Here we go.

[B]

That's okay. It's okay. No, you. You say, okay, I want to go away for a month, and you act like that is something that can be done at the drop of a hat. If it were one room and there were people, me and you, that could be done very easy, very. Within minutes. Right. But it's never that easy. You said now, Savannah said she might want to come down for a little bit of that time. We've got your mother, We've got Chloe, We've got Grayson. So it doesn't fall.

[A]

Chase has now said he's coming.

[B]

It doesn't fall into just a room for you. And I to try, but we were

[A]

never going to do it. When we were going to get right. A house, a villa that housed everyone to where they had their own quarters.

[B]

Well, those. So I checked with the travel agent. Those are not available for the dates in which you want it. Also, there's not a casino where those villas are. So I know you said you wanted a place for your mother to be able to go.

[A]

So how far is the resort?

[B]

I'm actually having a conversation with her after this podcast to discuss other options.

[A]

Because if my mother can drive three hours to Indiana, then she can get in a car there with a driver to take her from wherever I want him.

[B]

But I'm not. I don't know. I would have to wait. I'm going to have to shelter if

[A]

I have to put her on a boat and she has to row her way. If I tell her there's a casino on that island. You see that dirt over there? Here's you the oars. She'll paddle.

[B]

I get it. I get it. So there is more to just than saying, okay, I need a room for 30 nights. And it's, you know, one king bed or suite or whatever. You. It is much more involved than that.

[A]

It's not. Let me simplify it for you, okay? If you've got all these people going, it's really one text message to your agent.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Saying, this is when I would like to go. This is when I want to come back. But you just made folks, you see how manipulative she is. She just made y' all for 4.7 minutes believe that she was manually physically doing labor to do this. You is send a text message to your travel agent and say, I am leaving. Would like to leave on this date and starting to come back on this date. And these are the villas that we're

[B]

interested in and already had a conversation with her about it.

[A]

Okay, but that just happened yesterday. We've been talking about this for two and a half weeks.

[B]

No, we've not been talking about for

[A]

two and a half weeks, Liza.

[B]

It's not two and a half weeks. And you are telling the story now. You've already trashed me from the. From the get go. From the get go of this podcast, you've trashed me. It has not been to an app.

[A]

I have not. I have not. Did you order them shirts?

[B]

I did.

[A]

You ordered your order?

[B]

I did. And they'll be here before you leave.

[A]

When did you order them?

[B]

This morning.

[A]

This morning, folks? A week ago this morning.

[B]

I wasn't a week ago because how was you? I ordered what you asked me to order. Then you decided to give the shirts to your son. Then you want them reordered. I. I'm sorry. We were standing in the. In the closet. I'm sure there were 50 million other things that I was doing at the moment. So I apologize. Because you don't have those shirts.

[A]

That's all I needed, folks, because you

[B]

probably have 10 of them already.

[A]

Time in 30 years, I've gotten an apology.

[B]

That's not true. That's not true.

[A]

So can we acknowledge that you have this issue that you're having with me, with our children, you. Because they say the same thing, that you're scatterbrained.

[B]

Yeah, I think maybe I have adult adhd. I was listening to a podcast, and,

[A]

you know, that is why you can't get anything done.

[B]

That is one of the, like, telltale signs of adult ADHD is not being able to get anything finished. And being a procrastinator, she hadn't gotten finished. I was listening to Bill and Juliana's podcast.

[A]

This house say. So now it's Bill and Juliana's problem.

[B]

No, it's not their problem.

[A]

They were informing me, stay out of people's personal lives.

[B]

They brought it up into me. My life, when they posted a podcast.

[A]

What do you mean? But you don't have to listen to it. You're voyeuristic. You want to know what's going on in all these people's lives?

[B]

No, I don't.

[A]

I don't listen to one pod. Folks, listen to me. Let's talk about this for a second.

[B]

Oh, God.

[A]

Now, y' all have heard me talk about for many years that Savannah and. And her mother are doom and gloom. We could be having the most amazing day, having it sitting, having a great meal, all of us laughing and cutting up. And one of them would say, oh, my God, did you see where this child was abducted in Guam? Y' all are always going to bring it down. I was laying in bed the other night, minding my own business, working on my laptop, doing what I need to do, watching this new show, which, by the way, folks, has really got me on the edge. It's called the Unchosen on Netflix.

[B]

Not the. It's just Unchosen.

[A]

Well, I'm sorry. I got confused that. Because I corrected her last night when she kept getting pissed off at Netflix, saying, I didn't say the Chosen. She's talking to the tv. She's cussing at Netflix. She said, I didn't say the Chosen.

[B]

And I was maybe we should have been watching.

[A]

And I was very quiet and said, I don't think it's the. It's the. I said, it's unchose. Unchosen.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

She puts it in, it comes out. So needless to say, I was in the midst of this show, and all of a sudden, oh, my God. And proceeds to read to me one of the most heartbreaking stories that she could find on Instagram. Now, I don't know what's in her algorithm that all these missing kids show up on her page. Do you know what's in mine? If I show you my page right now, it will be babies of what I think my future grandchildren are going to look like and what I want to buy them and where I'm going to take them. It'll be real estate or it will be food that I'm sending to Julie for her to try this new recipe. Now, is that not what's on my page?

[B]

Yes, folks, that he does every night, sends it in the middle of the night. I want this tomorrow.

[A]

What are you.

[B]

I want us to have this.

[A]

What are you going to do with all this time when I don't want you to do anything? What will you do with your time?

[B]

That's never going to happen.

[A]

No, don't say never. Don't say never. Don't say never. Women have lost good men since the beginning of time, so let's just say what happens if you just have nothing to do other than to occupy your time with you and Chloe and Mama? What are you going to do with all the extra time?

[B]

I really don't like the tone of this podcast. And what the. What the. The inference. What do you call it?

[A]

Here we go. You had trouble with that word, a word last week.

[B]

Unapologetically, yes.

[A]

Inference.

[B]

Yes. I don't really like where you're.

[A]

I'm just asking.

[B]

No, no, no. It's not going to happen, so it doesn't matter.

[A]

Okay? So then be grateful that you have these opportunities to try something new. I don't need a cooking show. You're the one doing a cooking show. I'm giving you new content. I'm letting you know I am your guinea pig. I'm trying these things out to say whether or not I like them or whether or not I believe somebody else would like them.

[B]

Okay? Thank you. I appreciate that.

[A]

But I'm going to stop giving you that assistance. Folks, as of today, I resign as her food critic, and I am not sending her no more recipes.

[C]

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[A]

Do you not make it a point to tell me something horrific that you as on Instagram every day?

[B]

Not every day.

[A]

Can we say every other day? No, that's just not true.

[B]

Then maybe once a week.

[A]

That's. That's. But let me ask them. Okay, let's just go with that. That's a lie, by the way. Let's just go with you just share it with me once a week, right? Why do you need to.

[B]

I don't know.

[A]

But let me ask you this. Have I said for 20 years, Julie, don't tell me nothing sad about a baby, a child, or old people. Yeah, I've said it for 20 years. Right? So now, folks, let me ask you something. That's my boundary. I don't want to know nothing about no child being hurt. Why do you cross that boundary? Okay, Once a week, why do you cross it?

[B]

Just like you're not going to send me any more recipes. I won't mention anything else bad to you, okay?

[A]

So you don't mention nothing bad to me. I'm not going to help you be the next Martha Stewart, okay? You do it all on your own, okay? You're going to end up like her old friend Nine or nine or whatever her name is that betrayed Martha when she went to prison. But. So we've got a boundary on that. I don't need to go away for a month. You are the one that wants to go somewhere all the time. So right here on the podcast today, do you want to go on this trip or do you not want to

[B]

go on this trip? I do want to go on a trip. So I will get that confirmed today with where the destination is going to be that will accommodate us all and give most everyone what they want.

[A]

Well, really, I'm paying for everything, so I don't give a shit if it gives everyone what they want. It needs to give me what I want, you what you want, and then everything after that. If we can provide it, then we will. I'm a casino. Chase and Savannah and Grayson, water sports or being able to do something during the day. And Chloe's gonna be right where I am, so it's not gonna matter with her.

[B]

Okay?

[A]

That's it.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

If we have a travel agent that's not accommodating You. I have other people that I can set you up.

[B]

She's more than accommodating.

[A]

So now what else would you like to talk about today? Because I've gotten everything off my chest that I want to get off my chest.

[B]

I'm so glad.

[A]

Okay, good. So now what else would you like to talk about? Would you like to talk about Again, not wanting to gossip and not wanting to be petty because I know that that is something that some people have done. Thought that I exhibited signs of at times. Want to talk about Judge Ross and the latest that happened this morning, but go ahead.

[B]

I know you want to.

[A]

Well, if you insist. I mean, I wasn't going to do it, but if you insist, I would. Folks, welcome to the days and lives of the downfall of Judge Eleanor Ross. This morning she recused herself from the federal election case that the DOJ filed for her to recuse from. She granted that motion this morning. I'm not quite sure why she's granting any motions while she's allowed to still be on the bench. And I want to make this very clear because there's still a bunch of ignorant people out there in this world. I don't give a damn if she got her back blowed out in the basement of her church. I don't care. But she lied in her investigation, and that is what she sends people to prison for, for perjury. So this morning I just. Not that I was trying to stay focused on this, y', all, but this morning it came out that the see here, the attorney for the Department of Justice, AAG Dillon, Judge Ross has granted our motion to recuse in the Georgia voter rolls litigation. And it says that based on the stand on this standard, the United States argues that recusal is required under 4, under 455 for the following two reasons. First, a reasonable observer would objectively conclude that the undersigned attended Fani Willis event, which constitutes endorsement of Willis's election and the Democratic Party. Second, a reasonable observer would objectively construe the undersigned attendance as an endorsement of Willis actions while in office, which include prosecution of President Trump for crimes related to election fraud, and question the undersized impartiality to decide, well, Judge Eleanor Ross concluded that she would grant their motion because it does appear as if she could not preside over that case and be impartial. I personally don't think that she should be sitting on the bench at all. She should be suspended. Now, several since we've last spoke about this, several congressmen, senators and other individuals have filed for impeachment proceedings to begin. Now, that has to go in front of the Senate Judiciary, who then does their investigation, and then it goes over to the House for them to vote as to whether or not she's impeached or not. I want to be very clear because I get so many people saying, oh, you're wanting her to be impeached? What about the President of the United States? You know, you. You're not shouting for him to be impeached. I wasn't aware that he was banging some judge here in the United States. I wasn't aware that he was having sex with anyone else in the White House. That was Bill Clinton, by the way. Um, I don't want to confuse the two.

[B]

Right.

[A]

I'm not worrying about what President Trump is doing up there, because guess what? Like all of y' all that are talking shit to me, you ain't worried about what Judge Ross is doing in a federal courtroom in Atlanta, Georgia, and destroying the lives that she destroys. When a she's not competent enough to have that assignment to that bench. She has to have an attorney on staff to draft everything for her because she doesn't understand her cases. She's got clerks that have gone on record now that state that they did everything for her and that she never even read them in, rubber stamps them. And then on top of that, she lied on the clerk that brought this to Judge Prior and reported her and said she was doing all these things. And when they sat down face to face with her, she had no problem trying to destroy this clerk's professional career. If I had to guess, this is a younger clerk, because, you know, you. You going through law school, you are excited and thrilled if you get to be a clerk to a federal judge. So here's some kid that went to law school, got this appointment, and now this judge, who they were there to serve, has now said, this clerk is lying on me. They're lying because I got onto them for the way they dressed and excessive use of their cell phone. She should not say anything about the way someone dresses. This is a woman who came in the courtroom with no shoes on. This is a woman who allowed her jurors to come in in their pajamas. So clearly she does not care about someone's appearance. Yet she's going to say that the reason this clerk lied on her was because she chastised them for their appearance. A this woman does not dress well. Even if she. If she halfway dresses, she has a cuck for a husband, Brian Ross, who is a state Judge because no one's going to tell me that, that a wife can have an affair for that many years. And you don't suspect something is going on. Because now based on all this stuff that's being said, this was like the worst kept secret in the federal courthouse. Supposedly people had been talking about it for years that this was going on.

[C]

Right.

[A]

But these clerks were so afraid to say anything that they were just going to be. They were going to remain quiet.

[C]

Right.

[A]

So there was an article that came out this morning talking about judges. How are they going to be held to the same standards? It says this. The article was sent to me and I said, I don't have time to read this this morning. Give me a recap. And they came back and said it talks about accountability and how the public is waiting to see if judges are held to the same standards as the rest of us Americans. It breaks down the impeachment into three categories. Conflicts of interest with the Atlanta Police Department attending a partisan event. Fani Willis, Democrat. Her issues with Trump and the voter election fraud, which was a case she was going to be presiding over and lying under an investigation. The article speaks very well on the impeachment process and how easy this one would be if they choose to take that route. Now notice, folks, what they did not. The article did not talk about it did not talk about her getting her back blowed out.

[B]

Nobody cares about it.

[A]

No. No. But what people do care about is her lying under an investigation, her attending a partisan event. Judges are to be nonpartisan. They're not to be attending political events. They're not to be donating to campaigns. They're not to be doing any of that. They are to be. They're there to be partisan. They're not to be involved in any politics.

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[A]

So that's two things that she broke right there. The third one, conflicts of interest with the Atlanta pd. Now, all jokes aside, neither one of them are good looking people, but that goes to show you that in this country, that even unattractive people are getting laid. But he is an unattractive member of the Atlanta Police Department banging an unattractive member of the bench. And these are cases. Rarely would there be a case that the Atlanta in federal court that the feds have not worked with their local police on securing evidence or doing investigations because they're coming into their jurisdiction.

[B]

Right.

[A]

So that's almost impossible that there's not some overlap there. So that's what judges around the country now are saying, that these are the three conflicts that she should be impeached upon. As tacky as it was for her to do what she was doing in her chambers, I've done it in a Burger King bathroom.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

That's where the whole Whopper name came from.

[B]

Shut the heck up. You are so.

[A]

Okay, Whopper Jr.

[B]

Shut up.

[A]

But at the end of the day, you got to get yours where you get it. You got to get it in where you can get it in, but you can't be getting it in in a federal courthouse. That shows you the level of narcissism that she has and the. And the addiction to power that she has that she can summon a high ranking Atlanta Police Department officer to her chambers to service her. That shows you how narcissistic she is. So when I get all this information, you know, there was another one that came last night because there's so many people investigating this. And so this one person gets scared and says to this reporter, listen, I've decided not to get involved in this mess. You really thought I would put my job on the line for this? I know how these things turn out, and it was never my intent to provide that information to you. Now that sounds like cat covering shit right there. Right? Um, I forwarded this information requested to the powers so they can be aware of what's going on and to protect My best interest, but good luck moving forward. Now, that is someone who is a security officer there in the federal courthouse who was already leaking information, and now she's afraid that her name's going to come out. So she sends that text message to make it look like that she didn't do anything.

[B]

Right.

[A]

It's very self serving.

[B]

Right.

[A]

But everyone throughout the country is talking about this. I did the podcast yesterday with Greta Van Susteren, who, you know, I've loved forever, and it was a great podcast, so I would encourage all to tune in and listen to that. But it was a great podcast that I had with her. And she said, why is no one going to this chief justice that's over the 11th Circuit? Because the Supreme Court, you know, oversees the appellate version. The appellate version oversees, you know, Judge Ross. Why is no one going to the chief judge of the 11th Circuit about this? And shame on Judge Pryor. If he knew that this was. If he knew that he caught her in a lie at that point, she should have been suspended pending the outcome of the investigation. And she should have never been given a private reprimand. Her reprimand should have been public so that the world would know about it, so that, so that defense counsel going in front of her would be aware of the conduct that this judge is, you know, has, has shown.

[C]

Right.

[A]

But it's a good listen on Greta's podcast because she, she like schooled me on kind of what the law is, right? And she, and she said, listen, as tacky as it is about her having sex in her chambers, okay, it happened. Her biggest issue is that she lied to the judges that were investigating her. And you can, I'm quoting her. And you cannot have a judge that has lied in an investigation and then think she can be impartial overseeing someone else.

[B]

Right.

[A]

So Greta just summed it all up in that one little piece, right. That you cannot lie in federal investigations.

[B]

Right.

[A]

And you and I both know that in our case that she chastised one of the witnesses and said, I don't believe you understand that. You understand that you're under oath. Remember that. You understand you're under oath.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I will hold you in contempt.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Well, but yet she doesn't want to be held in contempt right now. I don't know what's going on in her personal life, but again, I don't believe that I would know if you were having an affair. I may not know if you had one today, but if it was something that was so. If he was doing you so Good that you stayed with him for two, three years. I'm going to know that.

[B]

Some people say they didn't know, but

[A]

those are the people that did. Didn't care. A woman that is whoring around on you for three years.

[B]

Or a man.

[A]

Or a man. It's because they don't give a shit. They don't care. They are too busy focused on what they're doing. They're too busy focused on other things that are more important than you having an affair. Now, you know yourself. I notice when your hair is different. I notice if you change your makeup. I notice if you change your perfume. Do I not?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Why is that? Because I pay attention to what's mine. So I can tell you now they wouldn't be no three years. So if you ever decide to do it, it needs to be so good.

[B]

Don't worry. I'm not.

[A]

It needs to be so. Don't worry that you gotta walk home on your hands. Shut up, because I'm done. But then. But again, I don't know what's going on in her private life, but I do know that she has two daughters. And the example that she has sat. And I can say this directly to you, Judge Ross, because as you said in your racist tone, that we should have thought about our criminal activity. We should have thought about our children before we did that. You should have done the same because you have committed a crime. You have committed perjury, and that is punishable by prison. And certainly if not prison, you should be dis. Oh, you've already been disrobed. You should be taken off the bench. Not done on the bench. Okay, so that's kind of like my update on that. And again, folks, I'm not being petty.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Okay. But now, so, I mean, really, what is your take? What is your take on that whole situation and of everything that has come out? Do you have an opinion on it?

[B]

I do have an opinion on it. And I do think what someone chooses to do in their private life between two adults is their business.

[A]

Right.

[B]

I do not feel like that should have been something that she should have brought up into the chambers. I do not feel like you can be focused on what you're doing when you have that. Like, you know, whether it's the anticipation or it's the sneaking around or it's whatever. Your mind is obviously not focused on your job. And I just feel like that her job should be held at such a higher place because you do have someone's life in your hands. And I know how Traumatic that experience was for me. I know how serious I took. There was no playing around like it was serious and I respected that it was a serious matter the entire time. And I feel like that should have been the case for her too. And the clerks coming out saying that she wouldn't read motions and she just would sign whatever they put in front of her. I mean, that like should be alarming to anyone. That should be alarming to anyone.

[A]

That's right.

[B]

Because again, these are people's lives. Yes, a jury can, can say that you're guilty all day long, but ultimately she has at her discretion to sentence someone basically to whatever she wants to. I mean, like, I know she said during my recentencing that she didn't follow any kind of guidelines.

[A]

She just did what she thought was.

[B]

She did what she thought was fair, which was for the crimes that she thought that I committed. Seven years, she thought was just fair. There was no like formula that she used.

[A]

There was no, keep in mind there is a formula that she's supposed to use.

[B]

Right.

[A]

And she chose to go outside of that formula.

[B]

Right. So she has a lot of power. And I feel like it is, it's, it's just like a doctor, it's just like a surgeon, like they need to be focused. When you are going and cutting on people and you're doing surgery and you're life changing to people, you need to be focused on what you are doing. I feel like it's the same for her.

[A]

100% agree. And you know, it's very important for people to also know that she can never be a Chief Justice. She cannot, she cannot do that anymore. She can't be on any, any panels, you know, heading, chairing any of this stuff. She can only right now, based on the sanction that was given to her, she can only stay in the position that she's in. She can never ascend any higher than where she is right now. Right. Someone this young in her career, that's a death that right there.

[B]

It's unfortunate that right there is a

[A]

bad thing, but it's not severe enough.

[B]

So many times we are our own worst enemy, you know, and like rather than take this position that she was the youngest African American female judge to be appointed by Obama, which was huge.

[A]

Yes, but.

[B]

Which was huge.

[A]

But here's the thing.

[B]

Why wouldn't you respect that, that, that. Oh my gosh, this is, this is something crazy. This is amazing, right? As a female, as a black female, that you have been appointed and given this position and then you just Kind of crapped on it.

[A]

Right. Well, here's, here's something else because there's a lot of stuff coming out in the judiciary right now. The Supreme Court yesterday declined to hear the case of 98 year old federal Judge Pauline Newman, who is challenging her suspension from the U.S. court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit in an unsigned order with no dissents. Do you understand what that means if there's no dissents? It's unanimous. The court took no action on her petition. Newman, appointed in 1984 by President Ronald Reagan, argued the circuit unconstitutionally removed her from cases after finding possible cognitive issues that made her unfit. She refused recommended medical testing and service of orders. A council of judges barred her from new cases for a year or until she complied, noting it was not a fitting end to her career, but necessary. Newman's attorneys and a doctor described her as a healthy super ager who remains intellectually sharp and capable. Lower courts dismissed her lawsuit ruling that the, that the judiciary can police itself. Now, I want you to think about that. A Ms. Pauline, you're 98. Hang it up. Because I don't believe in that either. And listen, she can be sharp as she wants to, but at 98, she's not as sharp as a 38 or a 48 or a 58 or a 68. These lifetime appointments, this woman, Judge Pauline, Ms. Pauline, she's going to make sure that she fulfills that.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

When you said lifetime appointment, I'm you going to pay me till I die.

[B]

Right. She took it literal.

[A]

She took that literal. But she should be gone regardless of whether or not she's still sharp or not. You're too old to be administering over people's lives. But the most troubling part of that is that the judiciary can police itself.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

The Solicitor General urged the Supreme Court not to take the case while it, while, let's see, while Newman's lawyers called it a stealth impeachment and said they will keep fighting. Now, there's something wrong there on both levels. The Solicitor General should literally not be saying to the Supreme Court, don't take this case, because that's the Solicitor General's way of trying to contain power over his judiciary.

[B]

Right.

[A]

The Supreme Court should remain sole discretion over judiciary.

[B]

Right.

[A]

There's too many people trying to assert power from positions that they should never be in to begin with.

[B]

Right.

[A]

But Ms. Pauline at 98 needs to sit to hell down.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And Judge Ross needs to step down because if she had any class at all, which I know that she's void of, that but she's made the entire 11th Circuit look foolish. She's made the entire. There are judges. You know this yourself by the calls that I have received. There are judges in the 11th Circuit in that same building that are saying she needs to resign. I don't know how she truly thinks that she can sit on that bench and not deal with the shame and embarrassment that comes with her actions from these attorneys and defendants coming into her courtroom.

[B]

Right.

[A]

Because it's just a field day for an attorney to come in and she rules in a way that's wrong. And 90% of her cases are wrong. I don't know if people understand this, but she has one of the highest rates of cases being overturned at appeal than any other judge in the 11th Circuit. So that right there should.

[B]

Clerks are saying she's not reading, she's not doing right.

[A]

So that right there should tell you. All that you need to know is that this judge, that her rate of cases being overturned by the 11th Circuit of Appeals Court is higher than anyone else on the bench. Well, the reason for that is because her clerks, who don't have the experience that a judge is supposed to have, is writing these orders and she's rubber stamping them. Or, or she was seeing if the soles of her feet could touch the ceiling. So it's one of the two. So with that being said, I'm now going to move past that.

[B]

Yeah,

[A]

there's still, you know, we have, we supposedly have a deal now with, with Iran and that gas is going to be cheaper because that's all anyone in our country is worried about, science. We're not worried about women being treated like garbage over there and having to wear black all year round, or that they cannot show their hair, that they can't go to the beach or any of that, but we're going to have cheaper gas. It's baffling to me in this country that both sides can look so foolish because if you do your research, even at the highest of what we're paying for gas today, we still have not reached the highest of what gas was under the Biden administration. And there was no war because, remember, Biden was a coward and pulled all of our people out of Afghanistan and cost lives, left a billion dollars worth of equipment over there. And we didn't do that this time. We came, we conquered, and we left. But at the end of the day, thank God, the war is over, our young men and women can come home. And my heart goes out to those that are not coming home because there's now been lives lost. There's parents out there today that don't have their child and all because of a war that if Iran would have left us alone and stopped shouting death to America and trying to, through all of their affiliates, blow up our buildings and everything else, then Trump would not have considered their country as the next Disney location. Okay, so with that being, you have

[B]

been on one today.

[A]

Well, I'm not.

[B]

So let's try to end this podcast on something positive. Can we do that?

[A]

Jesus loves me. This I know. Okay, for the Bible tells me. So is that kind of what you were looking for? On that note, folks, until next week, good luck and God bless.

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