Inside The System (feat. Victor Hill)

Summary

Chrisley Confessions 2.0 — “Inside The System” (feat. Victor Hill)

PodcastOne | June 24, 2026

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Episode Theme & Purpose

This week’s episode of Chrisley Confessions 2.0 is an unfiltered, candid deep dive into judicial and political corruption, centered specifically on allegations against Federal Judge Eleanor Ross in Fulton County. Host Todd Chrisley is joined by Victor Hill, former sheriff and previous defendant in Ross’s courtroom, to expose their experiences with system failures, dubious prosecution tactics, and institutionalized abuse of power. The conversation investigates not just their own cases, but patterns of misconduct affecting countless others—calling for accountability, community vigilance, and even collective legal action.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Judge Eleanor Ross: Allegations and Public Concern

• Todd opens by highlighting ongoing efforts to expose judicial corruption, focusing on Judge Ross.
  • [01:26] “You should be concerned as to whether or not in your course of life you may end up in a courtroom with a judge as corrupt as Judge Eleanor Ross.”—Todd Chrisley
• Recent motions for her impeachment have been filed.
• Todd stresses the issue is not personal animus about Ross’s salacious headlines but fundamental fairness for all (“I don't care if she got her back blowed out… I do care about fairness.” [01:54])
• Offers call to action for listeners to share experiences with Ross for future episodes and advocacy.

2. Patterns of Corruption: Personal Stories and Systemic Routes

• Victor and Todd discuss how public figures, wealth, or race are weaponized or misunderstood in their cases.
  • [09:01] Hill reveals peril of being placed in dangerous prison conditions—“I was in a housing unit with bank robbers. One guy shot a cop, one killed a cop…I was not a coincidence.”
• Both argue their prosecutions were not about race or privilege, but “right or wrong.” Todd and Victor, despite being on opposite sides of the political and racial spectrum, agree systemic abuse cuts across those lines ([10:09–10:17]).
• Discuss how judges, prosecutors, and the press pursue “celebrity scalps” for fame (Hill: “[Judge Ross] fits the Robert Ford syndrome to the max” [10:57]).

3. Fulton County Politics and Legal Syndicates

• Case studies on entangled relationships:
  • Recusal motions ignored despite conflicts (e.g., Judge Ross’s husband’s professional ties to the DA; Facebook friendships with political opponents).
  • “That right there should have been grounds for recusal.” —Todd Chrisley [22:21]
• Descriptions of “ex parte” (off-the-record) communications and rigged jury processes ([23:25]–[24:43]).
• Both recount efforts to restrict defense, exclude exculpatory evidence, and pressure holdout jurors.

4. Broader Problems: RICO Charges, Weak Cases & Prosecutorial Overreach

• RICO statutes be used as legal catch-alls for weak prosecutions against both guests ([18:28]–[19:00]).
• Withholding exculpatory evidence and failing to respond to defense motions—pervasive misconduct ([28:25]–[30:28]).

5. The Role of the Media and Public Perception

• Local media often acts as an instrument for prosecutors—tainting jury pools, squashing critical coverage of procedural abuses, and fueling public assumption of guilt ([61:53]–[64:42]).
• Victor Hill: “The media works hand in hand, and they will make those stories so that it's almost hard to get a fair trial because you tainted the jury pool.” [84:24]

6. Political Divides vs. Shared Humanity

• Nuanced talk about Democrat and Republican failures, with both Todd (Republican) and Victor (Democrat) calling for government and community to look past partisanship for actual solutions ([33:12]–[38:16]).
  • “We have to take personal feelings out of it. Not everyone is meant to get along… But when you are an elected official, you're saying to the people… I can go and represent you in a manner that will be respectful…” —Todd [42:02-42:45]
• Reflection on the moral duties of those in power—paralleled to “parenting” a community ([48:03]–[48:52]).

7. Public Outcry, Accountability, and Next Steps

• Todd shares he will platform other victims, encourages direct outreach, and is planning to bring a group to DC for impeachment proceedings ([04:04]–[04:10], [85:46]–[85:54]).
• Both criticize immunity for prosecutors and lifetime appointments for federal judges.
• Victor Hill: “There's no doubt in my mind. It's interesting, you call them a syndicate. I call them a legal mafia…Absolutely.” [79:45]

8. Family, Resilience, and Vindication

• Discussion about personal and family toll, especially on Todd’s daughter Savannah—her loyalty and advocacy ([53:22]–[54:34]).
• Acknowledgment of being “hardened” by experience and now committed to full transparency and legal action in the public eye ([73:46]–[74:17]).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Todd Chrisley on corruption across society
  • “We need to recognize our own shit.” [49:21]
• Victor Hill on judicial misconduct:
  • “You can lie by omission as well as commission.” [51:23]
• Judge Ross’s personal conduct as symbolic of systemic rot (satirical, explicit):
  • Todd: “Let’s take out of there that she had to send her cushions off for DNA samples…” [50:27] and “She threw her morals down the drain when she lifted her skirt up, or in this case, the robe.” [53:04]
• On recurring conflicts of interest and failures to recuse:
  • “Judge Ross’s husband, Brian, now a state judge, used to work for Tasha Mosley, the DA who brought the charges against you.” [22:13]
• Savannah Chrisley’s courage:
  • “At a moment when you see as a parent that your child has taken the reins of her life and that she has found her passion and that she's going to fight for what's right… it’s a feeling that I can’t explain.” —Todd [54:34]
• On the system’s chilling effect:
  • “When you’ve got somebody that faced the fear, walked through the fire and brought and got their freedom back. That's who you need to be worried about.” —Todd [73:58]
• Victor on media-prosecutor collusion:
  • “The press works hand in hand, and they will make those stories so that it's almost hard to get a fair trial because you tainted the jury pool.” [84:24]

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Timestamps to Important Segments

• 01:26: Opening focus on Judge Eleanor Ross, call for victims to reach out.
• 09:01: Victor Hill describes his experience in federal prison—“low” security is a myth.
• 10:55: “Robert Ford syndrome”—the quest for notoriety among judges/prosecutors.
• 19:00: Overuse/misuse of RICO charges—catch-all approach, political targeting.
• 22:13: Detailing conflicts of interest and failures to recuse.
• 23:25: Ex parte communications and rigged jury allegations.
• 28:25: Prosecutorial misconduct, withheld evidence in Chrisley trial.
• 33:12: Broader criticism of both Democrat and Republican parties and the need for systemic reform.
• 53:22: Addressing treatment of Savannah Chrisley in court—parental pride and adversity.
• 54:34: Savannah’s speech at the RNC; impact on family.
• 61:23: Judge Ross’s focus on personal legacy and “Robert Ford syndrome.”
• 79:45: “Legal mafia”/syndicate language—systemic corruption in Atlanta.
• 85:46: Agreement to return for future updates; Victor’s commitment to DC impeachment hearings.

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Tone & Language

• The tone is openly confrontational, humorous, and at times irreverent—particularly when Todd satirizes his adversaries with colorful metaphors and direct challenges (“back blowed out”, “blue light special in her office,” etc.).
• Both Todd and Victor use the podcast as a platform for cathartic storytelling, advocacy, and mobilization—blending serious policy criticism, personal narrative, and punchy, meme-ready soundbites.

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Conclusion

This episode provides a provocative exposé of alleged judicial corruption, blending personal experience, legal breakdowns, and calls for grassroots action. Todd and Victor’s cross-party, cross-racial camaraderie underlines that the core issue is not about partisanship or privilege, but broad systemic failure that threatens everyone. The episode closes on a mobilizing note: accountability must be demanded, victims must speak out, and reform is everyone’s business—delivered as only the Chrisleys can.

Transcript

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[Todd Chrisley]

Welcome to Chrisley Confessions 2.0. Now folks, for all of you that listen to us every week, you know that I always bring out and expose all the corruption that I can. Because once you have been sent away to a busted summer camp where the accommodations are not four seasons worthy, it changes your perspective towards things. Well, if you've been following us here in the last few weeks, you now know about the corrupt and ratchet judge Eleanor Ross, a federal judge there in Fulton County. Now, I have seen all these videos out here of all this screaming and yelling and primal mating cries and whatever, and we all know that she has now admitted to banging the guy with the Atlanta Police Department while she was married, while she is married to Brian Ross, who is a state judge and this guy she was banging is married. Um, but listen, I don't care. I really don't care if she got her back blowed out. I don't care. At the end of the day, what I do care about is fairness. I care about corruption at the highest level. Because whether you Agree with me being pardoned or whether you don't, whether you hate the man that pardoned me or whether you love him. At the end of the day, you should be concerned as to whether or not in your course of life you may end up in a courtroom with a judge as corrupt as Judge Eleanor Ross. Now, as of yesterday, There has been two motions filed for an impeachment in D.C. against Judge Eleanor Ross. What some of you may not know, and those of you who watch Unlocked with Savannah, you will maybe recognize my next guest, sheriff, former sheriff Victor Hill. Victor was also placed on trial in Eleanor Ross's courtroom. And today I bring him here. Not for. Not to both of us. Tag team Eleanor Ross. I mean, she may like that, but regardless of that, I didn't bring you here for that. I brought you here because when all of this happened, you had reached out and then you said, I was on your daughter Savannah's podcast. So then you and I started communicating via message, and then I started texting you. You had reached out to Savannah, I think, and we started sharing horror stories.

[Victor Hill]

Yes.

[Todd Chrisley]

And folks, it's not just me that she did this, too. Because you're going to have one side of viewership that's going to say, but you're a white, privileged, individ individual who doesn't believe that the jury was fair. And because you're rich and you come from this, that you shouldn't have had to suffer. You're right. I shouldn't have. But with that being said, I believe in law and order. I don't necessarily believe in the jury system at this point, because I don't feel like. I think that if you have a judge that is running their courtroom the way they're supposed to and making sure that fairness is being doled out, then maybe the jury system works. We didn't have that. We had a judge that. Again, I'm hung up on this because I just think if you ratchet, you ratchet. You can't be walking into a courtroom and not have shoes on. You have to control your jury box. You can't be having jurors coming in and asking if they can wear their pajamas. And that she, granted, there is a pro. There's a certain level of decorum that you have to go off of. And that certainly does not happen in Eleanor Ross's courtroom. I think rather than focus on whether or not I'm privileged or whether or not you think that because of who we are is why we got the pardon, that's okay. You're allowed to feel that way because we live in a country to where you're allowed to feel how you feel. What's not okay is if you're not paying attention to what we're exposing here. Understand that. I didn't expose this judge. Her own clerks exposed her. Her own peer group that handed down this lack of punishment, which is now being looked at again, said this woman was signing orders that these clerks were writing that she had no input in. She just signed folks that could be your father, your brother, your husband, your mother, your sister, your daughter, your grandchild, your child. That goes in front of a judge that's just not doing their job. And the reason they don't do their job is because they have life tenure. You can't remove them unless you impeach them. So I want you to pay close attention today, because we're gonna talk with Victor Hill today about what he went through and all the corruption that you have uncovered. And then I'm gonna read you a message. Cause this is how God works. I'm gonna read you a message from someone who also went in front of Judge Ross, who Judge Ross sabotaged. The woman, went to prison, and she filed. The woman went to prison, she learned law. She filed her own appeal, won her appeal. She comes out after Judge Ross told the prison to hold her an additional 45 days just to be vindictive. She should have been released immediately, but Judge Ross instructed the prison that she would send the marshals after this woman. There's no need to send the marshals. She's already won her appeal. So as soon as she comes out after the 45 days that she was made to stay, she's re indicted on the same charge and goes back in front of the same judge she's already beat on appeal. This time, this woman represented herself and she was acquitted. And I'll have her on my podcast here in the next two weeks to tell her story. So what I'd also like to put out there today is that if you believe you have been a victim of Judge Eleanor Ross, please reach out to us here at Chrisley Confessions 2.0. Or reach out to me on my personal Instagram at Todd Chrisley. Give me your information. Our attorneys will vet it, and we'll have you on to talk about your story. Because I want each and every individual that has been mistreated or has had a miscarriage of justice in Judge Eleanor Ross's courtroom. I want you with us in D.C. when we go there for this impeachment. So with that being said, let's move on. And let's speak with Mr. Victor Hill. How are you today?

[Victor Hill]

I'm doing great. It's good to be here, Tom.

[Todd Chrisley]

Well, I appreciate you coming.

[Victor Hill]

Absolutely.

[Todd Chrisley]

It's been such a breath of fresh air. Not, you know, because I think that, you know, you do commiserate with people that have gone through a lot of the same things, and it does create that bond. And I talk. I've talked about that so much about the men that I became friends with in prison and. Because, you know, it's almost like I looked at it like, this must be what it's like if you go to war. You know, this must be like if you're in armed forces together, you know, with a group of guys and you build this camaraderie and you're looking out for each other, you're in whatever. That was the experience I had. You ended up going to a low, which I did not even know that I was at a camp. So now I kind of feel like a little bitch over here complaining about my camp. When you went to a low.

[Victor Hill]

Right. And let me tell you, they can say low all they want. That's kind of a farce. Let me tell you why. As you know, the Bureau of Prisons, they have this system where you could be in a low and work your way up to a high or be in a high and work your way down to a low, right? So, you know, I was in a housing unit with bank robbers. One guy shot a cop, one killed a cop. You know, it's not like, okay, well, everyone there is low security, like we ran in the county jail when I was a sheriff. So it's a totally different thing there. And no doubt. And it wasn't by no doubt. It was by design. It wasn't a coincidence. And that they put me in the worst housing unit there, the one where the stabbers are. And that had to be by design. And of course, we'll talk about that and how we know that came about as well. But you brought up something that I want to address. I was listening to you intently, and you brought up some good points. How a lot of people have this perception that because you're rich, because you're white and because you're privileged, that this is a issue or a factor in it. And, you know, this is not about white and black or rich and poor.

[Todd Chrisley]

This is about right or wrong, whether people realize it. I mean, you and I are both black. Exactly. And then this other woman that's coming on is African American.

[Victor Hill]

Exactly. But it's even deeper than that. You know, before I was sheriff, I used to be in homicide. Right. And we used to go to these psychological profiling classes, and it taught us a lot. I'm not gonna say I'm a psychologist, but Judge Ross, she fits the profile of what I write about in my book about this experience with her, the prison, and everything else in the false prosecution. She fits the Robert Ford syndrome to the max. Okay. And so to understand what that is, you got to know who Robert Ford is. Robert Ford is the man that staged the shootout with Jesse James and shot him in the back. He felt that if he shot Jesse

[Todd Chrisley]

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[Victor Hill]

Absolutely. And she fits that profile to the max. When you look at the fact that after she prosecuted you, what did she do? She went to Wikipedia and put on there, I'm the judge that sentenced to Chris Leaves. You know, a lot of similar behavior in my case, but there are a lot of people that. They have prosecutor power, and putting them in that type of power is just as dangerous as giving a gun to Robert Ford.

[Todd Chrisley]

Absolutely.

[Victor Hill]

And if they see one, some. Someone that they think is a celebrity or someone that has wealth or anything, and they feel like they should have attained that, because you got to think most federal judges are anonymous. Most federal prosecutors are anonymous. They feel that they can get fame by going after someone with your status. And we see it all the time, especially in Atlanta, not just with the folks like her, but even on a county level. In my county, and of course, Fulton county, is infamous for it.

[Todd Chrisley]

Well, you know, I can remember I had bought a very large property in Buckhead, and we needed to have zoning done because there was a creek that ran through some of the property, and that was considered wetlands. And what we were building, you know, we needed to move some of that dirt over. And I remember that when the builder put in for the variants, everything was going smoothly, no issues.

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[Todd Chrisley]

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[Victor Hill]

and example.

[Todd Chrisley]

And we never. There was never a fine to be paid because, hell, we never knew we did anything. That our builder did anything wrong.

[Victor Hill]

Exactly.

[Todd Chrisley]

Now, we fought it, and we won it, but they fought us tooth and nail. The guy who was demanding the $50,000, he had other board members on there. That was. That were in everyone else's pocket as well.

[Victor Hill]

Right.

[Todd Chrisley]

That was backing him up. So they kept stalling every step that we took. And we were not even involved in it. We were not even in Atlanta a lot at that time.

[Victor Hill]

That's true.

[Todd Chrisley]

But the corruption that you see in Fulton county is off the chain. Let's talk about the relationship that Judge Eleanor Ross has with Fani Willis.

[Victor Hill]

Absolutely. Fonny Willis. And in my case, even more importantly, another unknown, Tasha Mosley.

[Todd Chrisley]

Now, is Tasha Mosley the one that when she smiles, you don't know whether to say hey or hey.

[Victor Hill]

That's. That would be her.

[Todd Chrisley]

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[Victor Hill]

Yeah, I don't think I have either.

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[Victor Hill]

My case involves a political battle that I've had with the Clayton County DA since I was sheriff and I write a lot about that in my book. It started way back then. This wasn't their first attempt at me before they came with these shenanigans. Back in 2012, I became the first sheriff in the history of the country to be indicted on RICO charges and everybody thought I was like the John Gotti of the county or something. But if you look at the charges, I was actually charged with stealing my own police car. The same car five times, three times in a two week period. And then they said every time I put gas in the car it was. It was another Charge. And they put it all under rico. We got a lot of RICO Queens in Atlanta when it comes to that type of charge, as you probably know. So it's not the first time, of course, I was acquitted of that.

[Todd Chrisley]

Well, what people don't understand is that with rico, it's kind of like a trash can. It's a catch all for anything that they can throw in there.

[Victor Hill]

Exactly. But it's really designed for the mob. Exactly. Or whatever. But, you know, next thing you look, these people, they start going after teachers and everything. It was actually did that, going after teachers with the.

[Todd Chrisley]

Right. But it was only supposed to be used for organized crime.

[Victor Hill]

Exactly.

[Todd Chrisley]

And now these prosecutors have taken it as a catch all and started using it for anything that they want to use it for.

[Victor Hill]

Absolutely.

[Todd Chrisley]

When they have a weak case.

[Victor Hill]

Right, absolutely. So Tasha Mosley arranges another case with me, but this time I'm acquitted. The first time in Clayton County. I mean, they saw it through it. It was thrown out and everything like that. And of course, she probably wouldn't feel comfortable taking me before a Clayton county jury because they all know me and they know the political history. So next thing you look, we make history again. I'm the only, the first and the only sheriff law enforcement officer to be indicted for ordering someone to be in a restraint chair. No physical contact, nothing. I mean, you can go on YouTube. Someone just sent me a video and it shows the exact same scenario. Just put up on a show and you don't see them being indicted. So I'm the first and I'm the only. Well, when it happened.

[Todd Chrisley]

But you can't. But not to interrupt you, but you can't say that it was racial because the people that brought. The prosecutors that brought you up were also of color.

[Victor Hill]

That's another thing that's important for people to understand. The U.S. attorney, Ron Buchanan, African American. Judge Ross, African American, Tasha Mosley, African American Jeff Turner, who was the chairman at that time, who was actively involved in it because he wanted to run for chair of all African Americans. So this. Exactly. This is not nothing that you could say, well, it's the white man. It wasn't the white man. So I'm glad you brought that up. So you talking about all members of my same race, and you're talking about all members of my same party because I ran as a Democrat. So all of them are involved in this.

[Todd Chrisley]

Yes, folks, I told you, I'm friends with some Democrats.

[Victor Hill]

Right, right. And I'm friends with Republican. Right, right. We crossed party lines.

[Todd Chrisley]

That's right.

[Victor Hill]

So anyway, what got real interest in was a former US Prosecutor read this case and knew something was wrong because she had worked in that office prior. And she said, I have never seen a case like this before. And she said, not only that, the Supreme Court has already ruled that you can't charge a person with color law violations unless there is an exact case replica that's already been proven, criminally or civilly. Usually has to be civil first in situations like this. Those cases are not supposed to go before a jury. So she joins my legal team, which thank God she did, because the legal team I had is kind of like the ones you just sued.

[Todd Chrisley]

We'll talk about that later.

[Victor Hill]

Exactly. So anyway, she files a motion. Two rulings from the Supreme Court come down right at the time I'm being indicted that clearly says, if this has never happened before, if there's nothing. Those cases are not supposed to go before a jury. So we're thinking no problem should get thrown out because of the shenanigans. Well, it doesn't. And we thought that was mighty strange. And the reasons it wasn't thrown out was very vague, very weak. Well, then we started connecting the dots. It turns out that Judge Ross is friends with the district attorney that took this case to Ryan, who was Tasha Mosley. Right. She's a district attorney at Clayton County. Not only are they friends, her husband used to work for Tasha Mosley.

[Todd Chrisley]

So Judge Ross's husband, Brian, now a state judge, used to work for Tasha Mosley, the DA who brought the charges against you.

[Victor Hill]

Absolutely.

[Todd Chrisley]

Now, that right there should have been grounds for recusal.

[Victor Hill]

Exactly. She should have recused herself right there.

[Todd Chrisley]

Now, you know that she's had several requests for recusal on cases here in the last week.

[Victor Hill]

No doubt. And she get thousands of them. So then we find out not only that she's Facebook friends with one of my political opponents, a person that ran against me for sure and tried to use this opportunity to run against me for sheriff again. And her husband is friends with the guy who was behind his plot, hoping that he could become sheriff. So you got all of this going on. So then later, another bizarre incident comes up, and a woman comes forth. Her name is Katrina Holloway, and she had a. Not that type of relationship, but a friendship. I think they're even distant cousins. I don't think four cousins count. And she started talking about the conversation she was having with Tasha Mosley during my trial.

[Todd Chrisley]

That he was having.

[Victor Hill]

That she was having with Tasha Ross. Right, right. Well, no, Katrina was having conversations with Tasha Mosley. And Tasha Mosley was telling her things that she was getting from Judge Ross during my trial.

[Todd Chrisley]

So, again, ex parte communication.

[Victor Hill]

Communication.

[Todd Chrisley]

Right, folks, what that means is, is that a judge is not allowed to have any conversation regarding a case that she has with anyone regarding that case unless your attorneys are present and the prosecutors are present. She was communicating with the prosecutor, Tasha Mosley. Yes, she was communicate. Judge Ross was communicating with her without your attorneys being present?

[Victor Hill]

Absolutely.

[Todd Chrisley]

So that's ex. That's clear. Ex parte communication.

[Victor Hill]

It gets even interesting. Despite the fact that she basically rigs the whole trial, she approves this motion in limine. That pretty much handcuffs me from presenting all the information that we needed. Right. Because there's a lot of information that a jury would have been looking like, where did this come from? The connections to a campaign and everything like that that we can get into later. But what was real disturbing was despite all of the cheating that they did, it was still a hung jury for four days. And then eventually it came down to this one juror. One of them, of course, she successfully kicked off. Same thing she did with Sean.

[Todd Chrisley]

Kicked off one on ours that was leaning in our favor. And she kicked her off and claimed that she was asleep. The woman was never asleep.

[Victor Hill]

Well, this got very, very interesting because I don't think anyone's ever seen this in the history of federal court. No one can find a case like it. This holdout juror was called out not once, but twice in front of everybody, in front of the media. There was a foreman on a jury that obviously was trying to work hand in hand with Judge Ross to see if she could get this guy kicked off. She sent out approximately five notes accusing this guy of all type of stuff. Every time she called him out and asked a question, he was able to answer it. He was like, no, that's not true. He said, I'm looking at woeful intent. I'm looking at this, and that. The man said, they're yelling at me. They're screaming at me. They're calling me names. And she sent him back in anyway. Well, what's interesting about Katrina Holloway's recount of this, because she actually gave an interview for a documentary on this case. She said that Tasha Mosley told her that, hey, we're working on this holdout juror. They're going to get in touch with his family and make sure he gets his medication. Okay. If that's even true. How would they know that? That. And why are they having this type of conversations?

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[Victor Hill]

When the attorney I told you about that came on board was an ex prosecutor filed a motion saying, hey, this should be a mistrial. Judge Ross came in the next day and ignored it like she didn't even see it.

[Todd Chrisley]

She did the same thing with us. When we found out that the IRS agent had lied, we knew the IRS agent was lying. But once we found out that there was an email right from the IRS agent to the prosecutors, letting them know she had made him. She claimed she made a mistake. A $590,000 mistake, folks. She claimed that she made a mistake and that the. That the taxes had actually been paid, but that they were filed under Julie's name, not my name.

[Victor Hill]

Absolutely.

[Todd Chrisley]

And so that was her mistake. But this. This is IRS agent Betty Carter, who claimed on the stand that she worked in the division that dealt with high profile, high net worth individuals and had been with the IRS for 30 years. Folks, how does someone who's in that division and worked that long with the IRS.

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How.

[Todd Chrisley]

And they looked at our tax transcripts 12,000 times. They pulled it 12,000 times over the course of three years. How do you not find that that $590,000 payment was paid 12 months after it was due?

[Victor Hill]

Right.

[Todd Chrisley]

How do you not find that? She knew it all along, but now what happened was she had to get on the stand, so she realized I have now committed perjury, so I need to go back and try to clean this up. She sends an email to Tommy Crapp and Annalise Peters, the prosecutors in our case. They never brought her back to the stand to clean it up, nor did they ever turn over that email to the. To our defense side showing that she had lied. So that was exculpatory evidence that they withheld.

[Victor Hill]

Yes.

[Todd Chrisley]

And when our attorney, Alex Little, started filing these motions, Judge Ross just refused to respond to them.

[Victor Hill]

Exactly.

[Todd Chrisley]

It wasn't until we filed the appeal, and right before we were going for the appeal hearing, she denied every motion that he had filed, every motion.

[Victor Hill]

And wasn't some type of statement that you can file what you want, I'm gonna deny it anyway.

[Todd Chrisley]

Yes, she did.

[Victor Hill]

Exactly.

[Todd Chrisley]

She said, you can file whatever you want. It's gonna be denied.

[Victor Hill]

Exactly.

[Todd Chrisley]

Now, folks, that's what you're facing if you don't get on board with holding these judges and prosecutors accountable. Because let me tell you something.

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You.

[Todd Chrisley]

It's easy to be a keyboard cowboy to go on here, to go on social media and say, well, you know, you got what you deserved. It's easy to say that. But you're not going to say that when it's your child or your loved one or you. It's easy for you to sit here and say, well, I wouldn't be in that position. Neither did I think I'd be in that position.

[Victor Hill]

Absolutely.

[Todd Chrisley]

You don't know. But by the grace of God go you and I, so be careful about spitting up in the air, because you don't know where it's going to land very, very true.

[Victor Hill]

And I think people need to understand this. If this judge was bold enough to do that to you, to do that to me, with people with as many

[Todd Chrisley]

eyeballs on it as what was ours, absolutely.

[Victor Hill]

What do you think she's done to

[Todd Chrisley]

many others that have no voice and

[Victor Hill]

will do and would have done if something didn't happen, if the hand of God didn't come in and put a stop to this? You see what I'm saying?

[Todd Chrisley]

But I say that that is, and I believe this in my heart of hearts, victory. I believe that God allowed me to go through what I went through so that I could see the corruption within the bureau of Prisons and the abuse that's handed down by these staff members and the guards and mostly these wardens that condone it. Judge Ross is just like a corrupt warden in the prison system. Yes, it's a godlike complex.

[Victor Hill]

I agree.

[Todd Chrisley]

It comes down to rights. Right and wrong's wrong. If I'm guilty and you convict me in a fair manner and you proved your case, I can live with that. I can live with that. But I remember when she sent the jurors out and our attorneys said, but, your honor, this information that they're putting in front of a jury is going to be inflammatory and it's not true. She said, I'm going to give them latitude. And when I feel like it's too much. Well, at that point, you've already tainted the jury. When you start talking about, you know, young kids, my kids living in multimillion dollar homes are jumping on private planes to go have their hair done, or this making this amount of money. When you start doing that, you're laying the groundwork for a jury poll for to, to build resentment towards the defendant. That's all you're doing. And when you look at a 98% success rate with the department of justice, justice, when you look at that, what most folks don't understand is that the reason that that rate is so high is because they've bullied people into accepting a plea deal. That way they still get that conviction.

[Victor Hill]

Absolutely.

[Todd Chrisley]

What? And you know, with you being, you know, you've identified as a Democrat, with you being a Democrat, what's baffling to me, Victor, is that the Democratic party is supposed to be about fairness. It's supposed about equality. It's supposed to be about governing the judicial system. But yet no one is coming in here and saying, let's fight this prosecutor. You know, let's fight, you know, stripping away from these prosecutors. You know their prosecutorial immunity. Let's stop this lifetime appointment of judges. Now. I was watching this the other day where the Democrats are now furious over the Supreme Court and they want to stop all of this lifetime appointment. Well, you're doing that now because they ruled against you. An emotion that you felt like you should have won. So now you want to strip that. But when we're coming here telling you this is what's happening at the federal level, none of these Democrats are coming forward and saying this needs to happen.

[Victor Hill]

Yeah. You know, let me say this. You know, like I said prior to being sheriff, a lot of people don't remember this, but I was actually a state representative in Georgia for one term. And during that time, it was very interesting because we got a Republican governor for the first time in 100 years because the state was blue for all those years. And, you know, I was a freshman legislator, but I was able to actually do something that most people don't do, and they go to state Congress. And that's actually, I was able to author and pass four bills in the law. And how did I do that? I did that by working across party lines. Because, you know, regardless of what we disagree on, the real point is what can we agree on and what can we get done for the people? That's the most important thing. I think the sad thing that really saddens me because, you know, I got friends on both aisles and I got friends that ask me every day, why are you still Democrat, especially after what they did to you? And I think this is what people got to understand has happened. If you look at my county, my county has some of the greatest people there.

[Todd Chrisley]

But don't you think Atlanta as a whole has been a great city? And I think that our city took a turn, and I say our, because I was there for 20 years. I think our city took a turn 10, 10, 15 years ago is when I started seeing that term.

[Victor Hill]

I agree.

[Todd Chrisley]

And. And the Democrats started pitting the Republic, the Democrats against the Republicans, and the Republicans against the Democrats. Because I can remember, you know, in 1986 when I moved to Atlanta, you had American Pie there on Roswell Road. You know, you had all these great spots, and everyone went black, white, Hispanic, you know, Puerto Rican, whatever. Every. It was a melting pot. Atlanta was like what I could considered the Southern version of New York City of Manhattan.

[Victor Hill]

You know, I agree. Let me tell you this. My loyalty is to the voters in my county. I think, unfortunately, we elected some very, very bad leaders in the Democratic Party. And I don't think that's reflective of the voters. You know, look at my county. My county is 85% African American. There's I have a reputation for being tough on crime. And they elected me overwhelmingly over and over and over again. If you look at this case, this whole case was brought as a way they know they couldn't beat me at the polls, so they had to find another way to get me out. So if you look at the population in my county, they had no problem with tough on crime. They have no problems. I think if you look at the actual people is not reflective of the leadership that you see. And unfortunately, they don't have too much to choose from right now. You know, when I was thinking about running for Congress and I changed my mind for some other reasons, I campaigned a lot on it. I was like, we need to bring some strong masculinity back to the Democratic Party. Not all Democrats are soft on crime. Not all Democrats believe ridiculous stuff and believe that we should bethat to be a Democrat. You've got to hate Republicans and we got to be fighting each other. That's not how things are done. Because if you're truly there to serve the people, you're going to have to learn how to build bridges and at least see what can we agree on as opposed to what we don't agree on that can help the masses of the people. And unfortunately, that's not being done. And unfortunately, we ended up with a lot of people that got elected on the Democratic side. And unfortunately they became prosecutors and judges. And there's a certain class in them that they believe that they know better than the electoral. So they believe that if they don't think you should be in a particular elected office, then they have the right to come up with some type of weird prosecution to remove you from that. And I've also told people this, and I will say it again and over again, if you don't like Todd Chrisley, then don't watch the show.

[Todd Chrisley]

That's it.

[Victor Hill]

Okay? If you don't like me, if you don't like the president, that's your right, then don't vote for us. But to think that you can indict someone and imprison them simply because you don't want to see them attain an elected office that you know they have the majority of the votes for is wrong. Regardless of whether you're pro this, pro that, agree with this, or agree with that, that's your right. And that brings up another interesting point about my trial. I want to make sure we get to that holdout juror was an older white male. And at one point during the trial, the foreman sends out one of these five notes, you know, just talking about why this guy should be gone. And she says something very interesting. She said that this juror believes that the president and the sheriff has certain immunities. Now, it's very interesting because that's the time when the president was. Had a case before the Supreme Court dealing with immunity. So if you could have seen a look on Judge Ross's face and you could see how they tried, it's almost like they were bringing partisan politics. He has a right, if that's the case, he has that right to support who he wants to support. What does that have to do with my trial? So it became a thing of partisan politics, and it was very, very interesting and very, very wrong. And if I remember correctly researching your case, something came up like that with one of your jury members, didn't it?

[Todd Chrisley]

We had multiple. Well, we had multiple jurors because there was that fighting going on right in the jury room. And all of our. The majority of our jurors were polled and was interviewed by our investigators afterwards. And they were recorded, these interviews, and we're going to use them in a documentary that I'm working on now about our case.

[Victor Hill]

Excellent.

[Todd Chrisley]

We will use those audio recordings with those jurors. And 90% of the jurors that were polled and interviewed stated that they convicted us because they did not. Not that they believed my former CEO, but that they believed the IRS agent and the prosecutor, and they did not believe that the prosecutor or the IRS agent would lie. The next question was, had you known the IRS agent lied under oath, would you have still convicted 90% of them, said absolutely not.

[Victor Hill]

Exactly.

[Todd Chrisley]

And Judge Ross, she knew that Betty Carter had lied and did not allow her to be brought back to the stand.

[Victor Hill]

You know, it's important for me to inject. They said approximately 50,000 people every year is wrongfully convicted. And that happens because the judges like Judge Ross.

[Todd Chrisley]

That's right. Make no prosecutors like Tommy Crapp and Annalise Pete.

[Victor Hill]

Absolutely. And Tasha Mosley. Exactly. And when you think that you can use the criminal justice system as a means to enforce your politics, that's wrong. The voters. When the voters speak, that's their right. They have a right to like who they like, vote for who they vote for. And to disenfranchise a particular group of people because they don't agree with your political ideologies is absolutely wrong. And that's what we see going On. But when you use the criminal justice system to do that, that, that goes against everything our forefathers fought for for this country. This is supposed to be the country where you supposed to have freedom of religion. Freedom of religious, you know, everything. I mean, politics or whatever like that. When we're kids, right, what they tell us, you can, you can be anything you want, you can run for president. That's what they tell.

[Todd Chrisley]

Raised in a country to where as a child you were taught that this. In this country, you can be and become whoever you want to be.

[Victor Hill]

Exactly.

[Todd Chrisley]

You work harder enough. I don't believe in this country anymore. That, that really is true because I believe now that. And this is happening on both sides because, listen, as a Republican, I don't believe we get it right all the time. We have no side gets right. We have representatives in D.C. right now that are the Republican Party, that are members of the House and of the Senate that are not getting it right. And then we have so many on. On the Democrat side that are not getting it right. And we have to take out. We have to take personal feelings out of it. Not everyone is meant to get along. Not everyone is meant to be best friends.

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[Todd Chrisley]

But when you are an elected official, you're saying to the people that you're vying for that vote, I can go and represent you in a manner that will be respectful and that will make you proud of taking the time to go to the voter box and giving me your vote. When you go on national television and you're attacking this one and you're attacking that one, and, you know, Jasmine Crockett was noted for that, and so was Marjorie Taylor. And then you had Marjorie Taylor Greene on our side and two women up there fighting amongst each other. It's so unbecoming. And then you have members of Congress that are doing these congressional meetings that they don't even know what they're talking about, all they're talking about is the hatred that they have for the other side. And when I was. I can remember going to school and I remember Ms. Pole, she was. She was my teacher, African American teacher. And she was the kindest, sweetest woman. And I learned so much from her. And she always was able to bring everyone together. We need more of those.

[Victor Hill]

We need more of that. You know, there's this fight now about partisanship on certain elected officials. And I think it's a legitimate point there because take my position, for instance, as a sheriff. Okay. When someone dials 911, do we look to see, okay, well, is He Democrat or Republican? Is he white or black? Is he pro life or is he pro Choice? It's a 911 call. Doesn't matter whether you're straight, gay, or homorphic diet. That has nothing to do with it. You're calling 911 because you're being raped, robbed, and murdered. And my job is to get there and make sure it starts.

[Todd Chrisley]

That's right. And your political affiliation should have nothing

[Victor Hill]

to do with that. Absolutely nothing to do with that. And when you're in those type of positions, positions of the judiciary or offices of the court like the sheriff is, that's very, very important, because the people in my county, even though the democrats outnumber the Republicans there, Republicans are there. Good people, supported me, everything. And they want to live safe, too. Everybody wants to live safe. So at that point, we got to understandand that's why judges like Judge Ross are so dangerous, because her and her friends, Tasha Mosley, Fani Willis, they believe that partisan politics plays a part and that they should be able to control elections by using their power to prosecute. And that's wrong. You're talking and you're talking about imprisoning people. So that means, you know, technically, at the end of the day, you were prosecuted for being Todd Chrisley.

[Todd Chrisley]

We now know that.

[Victor Hill]

That exact.

[Todd Chrisley]

Because we have the email that says to catch a big fish.

[Victor Hill]

Exactly. I was prosecuted for being Victor here. Okay. And there's no federal law against me. Okay. If judge Ross perceives you as being arrogant. She said that about me. Okay.

[Todd Chrisley]

Last I told us that we had shown no remorse over the excessive amounts of money that we had made and spent. And I'm not sure if you're doing that because you're setting this up for an appeal, but I'm not moved by it.

[Victor Hill]

My point exactly. In my case, she said it. My sentencing, you know, I don't think she's aware that there are errors everywhere. Someone that worked back in that office overheard her saying, I can't stand him. I think he's arrogant or whatever.

[Todd Chrisley]

I guess you should have removed herself at that point.

[Victor Hill]

Absolutely. Absolutely. And, you know, but here's what I want her to understand. Let's just play devil's advocate. I know arrogant people when I meet him, I'm sat in your presence. You're not arrogant. I know what arrogance is. I know what evil is when I meet him because I've been a cop 30 years. But let's just play devil's advocate. Let's just say that you're arrogant, and I Am, Just for lack of a better term, because of our personalities. There's no federal, state or local law against being arrogant.

[Todd Chrisley]

None.

[Victor Hill]

There is none. So, I mean, and if we find one or create one and pass it into law, she should be the first to be indicted.

[Todd Chrisley]

Absolutely.

[Victor Hill]

Because what she did in her office is the epitome of arrogance.

[Todd Chrisley]

But, you know, it's the epitome of arrogance for her to think that she can get her back blowed out on a government paid sofa in a government building funded by taxpayers. Right now, I don't know if she was in there doing the gluck or whatever it was that she was doing. I don't give a damn. But what people. And so many women of color have come back on all these posts out here that people are saying, why do you care if she's getting her? Why you care if she's getting her? Freak on, blah, blah. It has nothing to do with this or this. It does. It has to do with the fact that, that you don't see this as another woman of color. That now, because I believe that she was the first woman of color that was appointed to the bench there in Fulton County.

[Victor Hill]

Yeah.

[Todd Chrisley]

And you should, as a woman of color, be offended that, that she came in there and that she's done this because now the rest of the country are. So many people in the country are looking at that and judging these other women that are. That are of color, that are more suitable for that position that now may make it harder for them to be elevated.

[Victor Hill]

Yeah. And I think. I think some folks are missing the point because this, this really isn't about race. This is about right or wrong. Let me see if I can put it in a turn.

[Todd Chrisley]

So many people make it about race.

[Victor Hill]

People make race about everything.

[Todd Chrisley]

Everything.

[Victor Hill]

And even though there are instances where that's the case, this isn't it. I think what people gotta understand is this. Okay, obviously if you have children, you're not a virgin. Okay? But even though that's a known fact, you don't have sexual relations in front of your children.

[Todd Chrisley]

That's right.

[Victor Hill]

And you don't have sexual relations where your children can hear it.

[Todd Chrisley]

That's right.

[Victor Hill]

Okay. When you take on a position of authority like the sheriff or a judge, in some ways it makes you a parent over a whole circuit or a whole county. So whether it's inmates in the jail or whether citizens in the street, they come under your protective covering because you're responsible for their safety. You're responsible for everything. So just like you don't have sexual relations in front of your kids.

[Todd Chrisley]

Why are you taking money?

[Victor Hill]

Absolutely.

[Todd Chrisley]

And you know what? People are failing because people don't want to read. They don't want to do their research, whether it's a journalist or a fake journalist or whatever. Because so the majority of the. Of the articles that are written in the news today is so politically biased that if it's a. If it's a Republican that's done something wrong, then they're going, it's going to be horrible. If it's a Democrats done something wrong, the Republican side is going to lambast it.

[Victor Hill]

Right.

[Todd Chrisley]

But rather than us both, look for the truth. Listen, if my Republican brother or sister is guilty, if you are a Republican and your name was in that damn Epstein file, your ass needs to be prosecuted. But you need to own that. That doesn't make every Republican bad. It doesn't make every Democrat bad. But what makes our parties have a stench is that we won't recognize our own shit. And we need to recognize our own shit. And right now, in this conversation that you and I are having, from a Republican to a Democrat, from a white man to a black man.

[Victor Hill]

Absolutely.

[Todd Chrisley]

The stench that we have.

[Victor Hill]

Black, remember?

[Todd Chrisley]

Well, I mean, where it counts.

[Victor Hill]

There you go.

[Todd Chrisley]

But, you know, the stench that we have amongst us is a corrupt judge.

[Victor Hill]

Absolutely.

[Todd Chrisley]

What people are failing to do the research on is that this judge, Eleanor Ross, lied in a federal investigation, folks. Let's take her getting her back blowed out, out of it. Let's take the fact that they had to send her cushions off for DNA samples.

[Victor Hill]

That's another thing.

[Todd Chrisley]

Let's take that out of there. Let's take out of there that she literally, and this is very important, folks, her clerks turned her in. And when her clerks turned her in and she was called in front of Judge Pryor, Chief Judge, she denied it and then blamed the clerk that. That turned her in by saying, well, they come here dressed inappropriately, they're using their cell phones or what? This is a vendetta. She was willing to implicate someone else

[Victor Hill]

in a crime and get them.

[Todd Chrisley]

And get them fired to cover up her crime. Exactly. For her swamp crime.

[Victor Hill]

Absolutely.

[Todd Chrisley]

So, you know, at the end of the day, that right there, is that who you want to be? A judge who's willing to lie on someone else to get them convicted?

[Victor Hill]

But she also lied in your trial. In my trial. Let me tell you why. Remember this? You can lie by omission.

[Todd Chrisley]

Yes.

[Victor Hill]

As well as commission.

[Todd Chrisley]

That's right.

[Victor Hill]

People think lying is only commission. I Didn't do it when you did it or whatever, but when you omit things, it's the same thing. It's the same thing. So if you omit that I'm friends with your political opponents. When you omit that my husband used to work for the person who's pushing this. When you omit those type of things, that's lying. So she has a history of being deceptive, and her job is supposed to be to make sure. Think about this. When you went up. I don't know if you went up on a stand or not.

[Todd Chrisley]

No.

[Victor Hill]

Okay.

[Todd Chrisley]

I wanted to. And our attorney said absolutely not.

[Victor Hill]

Right. Well, I did. And guess what she said. Do you swear to tell the truth,

[Todd Chrisley]

the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?

[Victor Hill]

And nothing but the truth help you God. Did she?

[Todd Chrisley]

No, she did not. And then. And that's. And listen, her own co Colleagues found that she lied to them, and it wasn't until they. She found out that the judges had pulled the security camera footage showing the guy coming in there to blow her back out, that she had lied about that. There was text messages. So she didn't come back and say, okay, I lied to you because her conscience kicked in, Right?

[Victor Hill]

Had nothing to do.

[Todd Chrisley]

She came back and told, yes, I lied to you because you got me. You've got the video footage of him coming into my chambers. You've got the text messages. So I got to go.

[Victor Hill]

And I think you got the semen samples on my couch, because they sent me. That was really the breaker. It wasn't because of her moral turpitude, which I think she has now.

[Todd Chrisley]

See, I. I've not followed the. The blue light special in her office. I just felt like that, you know, she's nasty, obviously, so. And, you know, they want to talk about morals. Well, you know, her moral. She threw her morals down the drain when she lifted her skirt up, or in this case, the robe.

[Victor Hill]

And then what really bothered me in your case is how she addressed and treated your daughter. Now, first, let me throw this in. I'm amazed, and I think I told your daughter this. You know, I don't have biological kids, but if I did, I would hope I would have a child that would be as loyal and fight for me the way she did for y'.

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All.

[Todd Chrisley]

It's rare. And I'll tell you something. I thank God every day for my children, but I thank God especially for Savannah, because Savannah has everything in her that her mother and I cultivated. And she took everything she had been taught as a child. She taught. She took everything she had learned through all the adversity that had happened in her life.

[Victor Hill]

Yes.

[Todd Chrisley]

And yes, even though she came from a privileged background, she still suffered adversity. And she took all of that pain and she channeled that into getting something done. And for my daughter, I remember when she spoke at the RNC and all of my buddies there at the camp that I was in, in Pensacola came running. Your daughter's on. She's speaking at the rnc. Well, I knew she was going to be speaking, but I didn't share that information.

[Victor Hill]

Right.

[Todd Chrisley]

And so I got up for the first time and went and watched because I made a commitment I would not watch my children on television while I was there. And I got up and went and watched it. And I remember just watching, standing there weeping and guys coming and putting their hand on my shoulder. Because at a moment when you see as a parent that your child has taken the reins of her life and that she has found her passion and that she's going to fight for what's right, the moment you see your child exhibit, exhibit that kind of courage, it's just. It's a feeling that I can't explain. So when I watched that, I remember looking up and saying, God, thank you. Thank you for my child. But then to have her, for Judge Ross to say she has no political bias, but then to have my daughter to come in that courtroom when Julie was there to be re sentenced because she won her appeal, it was not 36 million. Judge Ross never proved 36 million. And instead, rather than Judge Ross fight it, when she got back, she said, okay, we'll just say 4 million. There wasn't 4 million lost. There was no money lost. But Judge Ross had to put a number. So why is our country not jumping on that and saying, how do you go from 36 million to 4 million?

[Victor Hill]

You know, you know, here's the thing.

[Todd Chrisley]

And, well, don't let me get off track. How do you go from 36 million to 4 million and. And then turn the whole hearing into an assault charge against my daughter? Because she has outed you at the RNC and in interviews saying that what you did was wrong.

[Victor Hill]

I never seen anything like it. You know, she even said in my sentencing that she said, listen, even though it's not a part of the record, I don't mind telling you I've been watching your social media. I hope she's watching this show.

[Todd Chrisley]

You can rest assured, she watches everything that I do.

[Victor Hill]

Well, good. And I hope she watches my social media over the next few weeks because I got a lot of good things planned for.

[Todd Chrisley]

Well, I'm going to start posting your stuff because you've been so kind to send it to me.

[Victor Hill]

At least I could do.

[Todd Chrisley]

And I. I get a lot of laughs out of that because, folks, he's just trying to be the next Todd Chrisley. I mean, the one liners just don't stop.

[Victor Hill]

Well, because.

[Todd Chrisley]

What was it you said? This last one? I don't care. I don't. I don't know if she was hollering for me or against me.

[Victor Hill]

Well, let me say. Let me say this.

[Todd Chrisley]

Is that recording real? Is that really her?

[Victor Hill]

You know, I don't know. I pray not.

[Todd Chrisley]

Because if it is, she needs to file. She needs to file assault charges against him because he beat her down.

[Victor Hill]

Yeah, well, yeah, you're right about that.

[Todd Chrisley]

I mean, damn, I read some of those comments and I was dying laughing. This one woman said I'd come out of that room and say they gave me a tattoo.

[Victor Hill]

I saw that.

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[Todd Chrisley]

I ain't coming out of no room saying here and letting somebody hear me screaming, jesus, and I'm fornicating. I was dying laughing over that.

[Victor Hill]

Exactly.

[Todd Chrisley]

But you know, when you go back to, you know, we're talking about Savannah, she spent all that time lambasting Savannah. And you need to be focused on the children that's been left in your custody. Savannah. Let me ask you something. Judge Eleanor Ross. Our blowed back. Blowed out back. Betty, um, let's just get this straight. I need to know if you were thinking of your daughters when you were getting your black back blowed out by another man other than their father. I need to know where your morals were then. I need to know if you. Why you were not focusing on your daughters. Because whether you know it or not, Judge Ross, you just set the precedent of what your daughters will now take forward and think is appropriate. Because if they saw their mama do it, then they're prone to do it. So with that being said, at the end of the day, she wants to talk about Savannah raising the kids that was placed in her care. Savannah did. Savannah did. She took care of her. She took care of her siblings the way she was supposed to take care of them. She financially supported them. She didn't take $1 of our assets to use to support her siblings. She did it on her own.

[Victor Hill]

Yeah. And you know, now you just made me think of something. Because you know, you can't help have but to have compassion for her kids.

[Todd Chrisley]

I do, because I know what my kids have gone Through.

[Victor Hill]

Exactly. Exactly.

[Todd Chrisley]

And you know, by the grace of God. Again, by the grace of God go you and I don't spit up in the air for. You don't know where it's going to land.

[Victor Hill]

Exactly.

[Todd Chrisley]

At the end of the day, I know what ridicule my children have had to endure.

[Victor Hill]

Yes.

[Todd Chrisley]

I can only imagine what her daughters are having to endure.

[Victor Hill]

But the difference is you had a case fabricated against you, and so your daughter had to endure people. Because there are people going to believe that you're guilty for the rest of our lives.

[Todd Chrisley]

People.

[Victor Hill]

Exactly.

[Todd Chrisley]

You'll have your group that will say, but you were convicted by a jury, so you're guilty.

[Victor Hill]

Exactly.

[Todd Chrisley]

And then you're going to have the other side that has. That has another way of looking at it, and probably a more intellectual way of looking at it, because they're following all the corruption that's going on in our judicial systems. Right. So at the end of the day, it's not. I'm not going to spend the rest of my life trying to prove to you that I didn't do what they. What I was convicted of.

[Victor Hill]

Absolutely.

[Todd Chrisley]

I'm not going to spend the rest of my. I don't owe you that. And first of all, I'm not going to allow free rent in my head from somebody that I'm not even inviting out to dinner.

[Victor Hill]

Yes.

[Todd Chrisley]

If I don't know you, why am I allowing what you're saying to matter to me? I don't care.

[Victor Hill]

Exactly. But unfortunately, Judge Ross doesn't feel that way. Cause she's on your social media. Savannah's social media. I remember bringing it up in court, bringing it up in my court about my social media. And I think it's improper for a judge. I don't know how a judge can be fair and impartial. By watching your social media. I don't know if there. We need to research that. We need to research that. Because what did that have to do with your case or your wife's appeal?

[Todd Chrisley]

Absolutely nothing. And, you know, here's the thing. We would have gone after her for that, but then we got the appeal or not the appeal, but then we got our pardon. So once you had the pardon, it shut the appeal down. Everything ends at that point because you're no longer convicted. You don't have that conviction.

[Victor Hill]

Right.

[Todd Chrisley]

So therefore there's nothing to appeal. So that shut the appeal down. But we were coming after her for her lies and for the misconduct that she had exhibited. And, you know, I'm so grateful for these clerks that they've exposed what they had, what they've exposed. But keep in mind, during our trial, after our conviction, we were told by. By someone on her staff that her main focus was to make sure that if a conviction comes down, that it hits her Wikipedia page immediately, and that that was her focus.

[Victor Hill]

Exactly. That falls right into what I was talking about, the Robert Ford syndrome.

[Todd Chrisley]

That's right. But, you know, when you look at it, Victor, what happens when the federal government gets. What's the first thing they do?

[Victor Hill]

They put it on their webpage.

[Todd Chrisley]

They walk out to the street, and they do a press conference.

[Victor Hill]

I'm glad you brought that up, because we got to talk about the press. Keep going.

[Todd Chrisley]

They walk out to the street and they do a press conference. And yet they would tell our team, you know, we don't want your clients talking to the press. She didn't want us talking to the press. But it was okay for the federal government to talk to the press?

[Victor Hill]

Absolutely.

[Todd Chrisley]

To leak information to the press. That was okay.

[Victor Hill]

You know, I write about. There's a chapter in my book, and it's called the Press, the Prosecutors, and the Robert Ford Syndrome. And it's interesting how the press works with the prosecutors to get a conviction, because if you look at the media that surrounded your case, in my case, it was very. Not one time did they cover anything questionable. You know, like even how your case. Your case reminds me so much of mine. Because how it started and who initiated is very suspicious. You already see what the motive is. And a lot of people don't know that particular story. A lot of people don't know that. My case actually started because some friends of the district attorney who I had to arrest and fire and who were also running for sheriff, it all started with one of their campaign workers, who's a person who's been in and out of jail, who's been in a restraint chair several times. Judge Ross would not allow us to present that evidence. I wanted all of them to come to court because that way the jury would know this started over a political campaign. And a matter of fact, they didn't even charge me with this guy. They went and found seven people, some who had been in the jail a year ago, been in a chair a year and never complained, never said anything happened to them. And all of a sudden, yeah, come to think of it, I'm injured. Did you urinate on yourself? Yeah. No. No reports of any decontamination of the chair or changing uniform, because it didn't happen. And then Suddenly, out of 630 people who have been placed in a restraint chair by my staff. Only seven are injured. Because you only get injured if I'm the one that says, this person needs to be restrained. See, those type of things should make for interesting stories. And we know they purposely didn't play that or didn't play the origin in your case because if it did, it would put doubt in the mind of the jury, as it should. They only wanted things that would poison a jury towards you and I. And a lot of people don't realize that. So they take this story and they think that you're some scam artist and they think I'm torturing people in a chair. And when it never happened. And even Judge Ross at sentencing had to admit this is a novel case. Usually these cases involve assault of behavior, wrongful arrest, beatings, tase ins. And she said none of that has occurred. She said, I can't even find a civil case like that. Now, these are her own words at sentencing. Yet she denied the motion that the former U.S. attorney put to her, saying, hey, this case should not go before a jury. So, you know, but anyway, I think you said something brilliant. I really liked it. Your family suffered a lot. And in some ways, of course, the stuff you could care less about, the people that still think that you're guilty, you could probably care about as much about them as I do.

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[Victor Hill]

think you said something very, very profound, that you were allowed to experience this. So you can see what really goes on so you could do something about it. You know, it's interesting. I write about this in the book. I was at a Bible study at Forrest Low Prison, and out of nowhere. And of course, I think, you know, there's some pretty good preachers in prison, right? And out of nowhere, the preacher for that day, he says, Mr. Hill, I understand you lived a privileged life. And everybody started laughing. That was hilarious. Not as privileged as you, though, but. And he said, you know, you're here for a reason. Right. And I didn't respond, because the only reason I knew I was here is because I was set up by Judge Ross in the DA and he said, you were brought here so that you could see what really goes on, so you could go out and fight for us.

[Todd Chrisley]

There you go.

[Victor Hill]

So that's why it's such an honor to sit here with you. You're a warrior. I got to give it to you. You know, let me tell you what you remind me of and your family reminds me of. You ever watch those old movies as a family? They're just minding their own business. They're farming, raising kids. And then all of a sudden, some folks ride in and burn the village, kill people, rape people, and take them

[Todd Chrisley]

out one at a time.

[Victor Hill]

Exactly. But they leave this one wounded person there. And then he decides, you know, most people would, well, let me just go on with my life. But no, he says he spends the rest of the movie tracking them down. And I think you're my brother from another mother.

[Todd Chrisley]

Well, I appreciate that. You know, I think that, for me, that the facts will speak for themselves, because both prosecutors in my case are no longer with. Are no longer prosecutors. I'm now looking into the FBI agent Stephen Raskowski and his communications between Tommy Krep and himself and some witnesses that he interviewed. Judge Ross has now been proven to be a corrupt judge, if not corrupt, morally, bankruptcy. Who has lied under oath, who has failed to do her job in accordance to the oath that she took. And so I look back on that, Victor, and I think that, you know, it's in God's time, not Todd's time, because I would have rather them all been taken down immediately for what they did. But God has taken them out one at a time.

[Victor Hill]

That he has.

[Todd Chrisley]

And God is continuing to shed light where there was darkness.

[Victor Hill]

Darkness that he, that is.

[Todd Chrisley]

And, you know, when we got. When we went through the appellate process, the appellate court, according to Alex Little, our attorney, and I haven't read it, because there is a certain amount of PTSD That I believe that I have. And I believe that the more that I try to delve into it and read it, it keeps bringing that stuff back to the top. So I try to focus on just what is at hand. Hand. Not by going backwards, but I look at it now, and I think to myself, Alex Little said that the appellate court. He had never seen an appellate court hand down a ruling like what they did that was so critical of the attorneys in our case.

[Victor Hill]

I'm glad you brought that up. In my case, no one had ever seen a judge bring out a whole lot. Juror twice. And misread the Allen charge. And read the Allen charge twice as well. Well, interestingly, they criticized her for it, but they covered up for her, just like they did with this sexual explete she had. They just. They just said this shouldn't have happened. And. And. And whatever.

[Todd Chrisley]

But instead of giving me another try, do it again.

[Victor Hill]

Exactly. But instead of giving me another trial, they give her a pat on the wrist. In that particular ruling at the 11th Circuit, of course, again, there's a lot of incestuous relationships that we've learned about. You know, all these attorneys, they go to the same conferences. Some went to law school together, Some were in the public defender's office together. The prosecutor's office just kind of like all the shenanigans you see in my case, where the judge's husband used to be a prosecutor for Tasha Mosley, and they're all friends and they're doing ex parte. So you see that type of craziness going on. But it's very interesting because they gave her a break but refused to give a new trial. So you're onto something there, right?

[Todd Chrisley]

When that ruling was handed down, I didn't quite understand it because I was still in prison. And I remember Alex saying, well, I can tell you this. They have given us. The appellate court has handed us down one of the greatest tools we could have ever asked for, for ineffective counsel. And which leads to back what you had said earlier today that, you know, there has been a lawsuit now filed, you know, in Fulton county and in front of a federal judge that we hope will certainly do a better job than what Judge Ross did.

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[Victor Hill]

But.

[Todd Chrisley]

So I'm not going to talk a whole lot about it other than the fact that we tried to resolve it privately and we. And we could not get there. And at the end of the day, we tried to resolve it amicably. We're the ones who did the time for your incompetence. And, you know, I was told this morning about a quote that the attorney for the law firm said, we will, we will defend this, this suit vigorously. Well, so will we.

[Victor Hill]

Absolutely.

[Todd Chrisley]

We didn't file this lawsuit without text message communications conversations that we were able to obtain that we kept our, we kept a lot of our conversations with our attorneys. So, you know, I would just say that I never knew that Kristen Alowitz had never had a criminal case in his life. He never disclosed that to us when we brought him on. We never knew it. And his firm never told us that he had never had a criminal case. And then we find out about that he had done this, you know, against the, Trump, against President Trump, whatever that is. I still don't really know. I haven't read it all yet. But it had something to do with Brad Raffensberg and the, the recording or whatever.

[Victor Hill]

Isn't it sad that people like or dislike for Republicans, Democrat or the president affects people going up before judges for their trial?

[Todd Chrisley]

Yes.

[Victor Hill]

You know, the president actually fired my attorney and I probably should have fired him, too, but keep going. That's another story.

[Todd Chrisley]

Well, you know, I can remember that, you know, Savannah saying, because, you know, we had a settlement with a seven figure settlement with the Georgia Department of Revenue where their insurance carrier said that they had violated our rights, illegal search and seizure or improper conduct, you know, by certain individuals within the Department of Revenue. And so we received that seven figure settlement. And I remember my daughter telling me that Krisnolowitz wanted her to give that to his firm. And we're sitting in prison and you failed to file proper documents or pleadings and missed the filing deadline. And you want my daughter to give you millions more dollars. And Savannah said, not happening. Not happening. And so now, you know, we're going to, once we get into this discovery and whatever, we're going to have all of, we're hiring an expert that's going to go through all the billing, it's going to go through everything and, and we'll take it that route. At the end of the day, I'm all about 100% transparency at this point. There's nothing that you can do to me at this point that you've not already done.

[Victor Hill]

Absolutely.

[Todd Chrisley]

And that is the gravest opponent that you can have.

[Victor Hill]

Absolutely.

[Todd Chrisley]

Someone who feel who has walked through the fire and came out on the other side.

[Victor Hill]

Absolutely.

[Todd Chrisley]

The biggest fear, first of all, fear consumes every situation. And so many people cave because of the fear. But when you've got somebody that faced the fear, walked through the fire and brought and got Their freedom back. That's who you need to be worried about.

[Victor Hill]

Absolutely.

[Todd Chrisley]

Victor, I wanted to touch on one more thing. Fonny Willis. What was your relationship with Fani Willis? Because you were a. You were the sheriff of Clayton county at the time that she was elected.

[Victor Hill]

Yes.

[Todd Chrisley]

And she was going hard after the police officers there.

[Victor Hill]

Yes. I've only met Fani Willis one time in my life, and it wasn't good. When she got elected, she won the primary. I think she'd already won in general as well, but she hadn't taken office yet. And so an officer that I knew called me up and said, hey, look, I'm driving the new district attorney. And I was one the of if you're somewhere around, she'd like to meet you or whatever. I was like, sure. I was downtown, my favorite sushi spot. So I said, yeah, come over. And I was actually there with some friends. So there's some. There were some very interesting witnesses to this. So she sits down, we start talking, we introduce ourselves, and I'll never forget this. I said, so tell me, what is your vision for the D.A. s office? So she says, well, you know, I think the first thing we need to do, we. Is we need to apologize to everybody. I said, we apologize to who for what? She said, we need to apologize to everybody. I said, for what? For law enforcement. I said, what do you mean, for law enforcement? We need to apologize for what law enforcement has done. And I said, I'm not following you on that. I said, we have a few bad apples, like every profession does, but why are we apologizing for something that we didn't do? If we find a bad cop, we handle it. I've had a few. I handled it, and I took care of them, so they're not there anymore. And she was like, well, you got to understand, it's kind of like, let's say we're in a relationship. You know, all these women have strange relationship problems. And she said, let's say you're not in a relationship and you cheat on me. She said, would you. You have to apologize for us to move further. So I said, so if I cheat on you and I apologize, we can move further. And all of a sudden, she gets mad and she jumps up and she says, you're not going to win an argument with me. You're not going to win an argument with me? I said, well, you're not going to win one with me either. And she leaves. So. And of course, there was a little bit more in the conversation where I tried to explain to her that, hey, listen, when a doctor does malpractice, do the doctors apologize for all the doctors across the country? You know, I said, I don't think that makes any sense. Well, interestingly, I had a meeting with my commander, and I said, listen, when this woman takes office, unless we're chasing somebody for murder, because, you know, my county sits right next to Fulton county, so there's this constant back and forth. I said, unless we're pursuing someone for murder or something very similar, I don't want my deputies going in there. Because this woman, she's going to start prosecuting cops, right, for anything she can. I've seen this before, and sure enough, every. You know, not just the situations we know about, like, young thug, the president, and stuff like that, but, I mean, there was one cop, and I feel so bad for him. He's trying to help another officer. This guy's resisting the rest, so he tackles the guy. Well, when they stand the guy up, when a guy fell, he must have sprained his ankle or whatever. So when he gets up, he's hopping. She indicts the cop for aggravated assault. You know, the one thing I want to take this time to say something about that case, your case and my case, the one thing I think people need to understand is with prosecutors like her, Tasha Mosley, with this judge, willful intent has gone out the door. It's not even considered. And you gotta think, did this officer have the willful intent to hurt this guy's ankle? I could see if he stood on his leg and popped his ankle and said, is it broken yet? They fail. It happened. He had no intent to do that. But now this guy is facing an aggravated assault charge. Did you have a willful intent? Mm. It was never proven. Did I have a willful intent to commit a crime, or was I simply doing a job to the procedure that every jail does? And we continue to see them do it on YouTube, that willful intent doesn't matter to these type of folks because they're not trying to actually prosecute for crimes they're trying to prosecute to get publicity or whatever they're trying to do or trying to control elections or whatever like that. So the willful intent is out the window. The sad part about prosecutors like her, Tasha Mosley. Judge Ross is a dangerous situation they create not just for cops, but for the public. Look what's happened at the Clayton county jail. The 15 years I was sheriff. We never had a murder. We never had an escape. Eight people have been killed there. Drugs, extortion Matter of fact, when they first indicted me, the crime rate went up to an all time high. Now, remember, the county's been here since 1863. The highest murder rate. Basically, they sent a message to the criminals that we're going to handcuff the cops. We're not going to handcuff you. And then it creates a situation that's dangerous. Officers stop being afraid to do their job, and then everyone suffers because when officers are afraid to do their job, they hesitate, they get hurt, they get killed, but ultimately they quit doing their job to a full extent. And then these people allowed to get free and rape, rob and murder innocent people who can't defend themselves. I agree.

[Todd Chrisley]

Agree. Would you say that? Is it fair for me to ask you, do you feel that the syndicate, and that's what I call them, the syndicate there in Fulton county, do you feel that with judge. If Judge Ross remains on the bench, that greater harm will come to unwilling citizens who have to go in front of her?

[Victor Hill]

There's no doubt in my mind. It's interesting, you call them a syndicate. I call them a legal mafia. There's a group of people and they come conspire who they're going to indict, prosecute. But absolutely, because you got to understand this, first of all, we don't even. We haven't even uncovered how many more people have been not given a fair trial or falsely prosecuted or had ex parte conversations with her or whatever like that. And then we're sending a message that it's okay. You know, it's interesting. Judges love to say this stuff. You know, you should know better. We're going to hold you to a higher standard. Right, okay. Well, then we're not going to hold her to a higher standard.

[Todd Chrisley]

Exactly. Well, you know, listen, you know, what's good for thee is not good for me.

[Victor Hill]

Exactly.

[Todd Chrisley]

And that's how she lives her life. And that's what I want the country to see in this particular situation, because this is not an isolated incident. This is happening in every jurisdiction. I mean, maybe not everyone has the same sexual partner that Judge Eleanor Ross has. It can make you. Make you talk to the Lord in every tongue possible, but there may be

[Victor Hill]

a future for him and other people.

[Todd Chrisley]

Listen, I've already said this on this podcast. Once you get fired or removed from your duties with the APD, come to me. I want to represent you. 10% will get you an only fans. Because if you. If you are responsible for that audio that's out there, you got a career, brother.

[Victor Hill]

I think you got a great point there. I mean, you know, we got a sex tape scandal going on in our county, and the performance of that law enforcement. The sheriff, one of his employees, I guess, filmed him coming in the house. And. And the whole thing is on tape, I can tell you. It's not impressive. There's no screaming, no hollering.

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[Todd Chrisley]

Understand all these people that want to have these sex tapes, and they're working with short sticks. Stroke game is off bad. And the woman's just kind of like, okay, how much longer do we have?

[Victor Hill]

Well, I can tell you this out Sheriff. There's no problem, no future. He won't be getting a call from the industry. But that guy with Judge Ross, he may get that call.

[Todd Chrisley]

Well, I can tell you right now, there's one that was with the Department of Revenue. He ain't getting no call back either.

[Victor Hill]

You know, we got. We didn't discuss that connection either. Now, you know Josh Waits was one of the people involved. Remember I told you in 2012 when I was running. Let me just put it this way, okay? This probably sounds familiar to some people, and it may go over some people's heads. I become sheriff, okay? I lose the election by a small margin. Maybe I shouldn't say this, because they're probably trying to find a way to indict me for this, but I actually called the Board of Elections office trying to check, because something didn't seem right, which really, it wasn't, because all the polling showed that we were supposed to win. Well, I come back and run. And then a special purpose grand jury is put together, and then suddenly they come up with the fact that, oh, yeah, I think he stole his car five times when he was in office. Meaning that every time I. I drove past a particular line. And of course, it's ridiculous. We won't get into that. Well, guess who was one of the main people in that investigation. Josh Waits. Guess who? We actually found a log in discovery with Josh Waits and twelveno, not 12, 17 deputies. Their job was to follow me every day. They came to my house, went through my trash can. They had pictures of me campaigning every day. They were told, just find something on Victor Hill. Well, we all know that Josh Waits is the same numb nut that was on your case, and he's another classic example of the Robert Ford syndrome. This guy actually had this picture up. What's that movie called? The Untouchables. And you remember when they got Al Capone, it was on taxes. It wasn't on anything else. So he had this picture up there, and he thought he was going to become the next Elliot Ness by going after everybody he could.

[Todd Chrisley]

For taxes.

[Victor Hill]

For taxes. Then he joins up with one of our weirdo reporters, Mark. We. We. And Mark, we will come and do all of these. He's a Channel 2 Action 2 reporter.

[Todd Chrisley]

And what's his real name, though?

[Victor Hill]

Mark Weiwe. You mispronounce it. You call it Mark. Winnie is Wee Wee. So anyway, it's not Mark. Winnie, as far as I know, is Wee Wee. Okay. So anyway, as we get to the point, you know, and they get this relationship where he's following them everywhere, doing all of these weird stories.

[Todd Chrisley]

He was the one that did all these stories with Josh.

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[Victor Hill]

Yes, he did. And that's why I told you, and I write about it in the book. The press, the prosecutors, and the Robert Ford Syndrome. The media works hand in hand, and they will make those stories so that it's almost hard to get a fair trial because you tainted the jury pool. They actually did a documentary about this on Netflix. I forgot the name of it, but it's very, very interesting. And how the media can put out certain things about a case and make it hard to get a person to get a fair trial. Classic example, what they did with you and I. So they got them thinking you're some, you know, money launderer or whatever, and that I'm some torturer, and none of it never occurred. So, you know, when you look at these characters and this guy would literally go to different businesses and just destroy people's lives, you know, in.

[Todd Chrisley]

He's suing the Attorney general. Now, I heard Josh Waits. I heard that somebody told me that the other day, that he's suing the Kris Carr. That's who he says to himself, yeah, he's suing Chris Car now, saying that he can't get a job anymore because of the Attorney General's office claiming that he's still under investigation for all this fraud and stuff that he's been accused of.

[Victor Hill]

Yeah.

[Todd Chrisley]

So.

[Victor Hill]

Yeah.

[Todd Chrisley]

Well, on that note, Victor, I thank you very much for being. Being here. I hope you'll come back because I want us to give periodic updates on where we stand with Judge Ross.

[Victor Hill]

Absolutely.

[Todd Chrisley]

And I understand that you have agreed now to go to D.C. for this impeachment hearings.

[Victor Hill]

Absolutely. I'll be there. Absolutely.

[Todd Chrisley]

I look forward to seeing you there, my friend.

[Victor Hill]

I look forward to seeing you there, too. I appreciate you.

[Todd Chrisley]

God bless. Until next week. Good luck and God bless.

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