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Todd Chrisley
Audible.Com wondery welcome to Chrisley Confessions 2.0 and do we have a lot to talk about today. Julie, welcome back. I was away from you for what, last week?
Julie Chrisley
Yeah, because you didn't do our introduction, right.
Host/Moderator
Good morning.
Todd Chrisley
Let's redo that. Good morning, everyone. It's Todd with Chrisley Confessions 2.0.
Julie Chrisley
I messed it up again. Good morning. It's Todd and Julie with Chrisley Confessions 2.0.
Todd Chrisley
Good morning. It's Todd and Julie with Chrisley Confessions 2.0 and boy, do we have a lot to catch up on today. I missed being on the podcast last week.
Julie Chrisley
Yes. I had my friend Sharita and it was such a good podc. So easy. It was. It was really good. It was really good to see her. It was good to catch up. So I think people are gonna like it. I really do.
Todd Chrisley
But she came to the house because she was there doing hair and makeup.
Julie Chrisley
Yep.
Todd Chrisley
And truly one of the funniest people. Best personality. It was my first time meeting Sharita.
Host/Moderator
Right.
Todd Chrisley
Great personality, very kind, very focused on where she's going in life.
Host/Moderator
Right.
Julie Chrisley
She was actually here for work. So the fact that she could just stop in and do the podcast with me, I was so great.
Todd Chrisley
That was A blessing.
Julie Chrisley
It was. And then we were in Vegas for the weekend with the celebrity poker tournament. As many of you have seen, it was so much fun.
Todd Chrisley
Yes. We met a lot of great people.
Julie Chrisley
A lot of great.
Todd Chrisley
Had a great time.
Julie Chrisley
Yes.
Todd Chrisley
And so. And folks, I don't really know how to play poker. I just do the best that I can with it, and I think that's the thing. But I actually did better than you this time.
Julie Chrisley
Yeah, you did. But it wasn't. It wasn't because you knew. You just got lucky.
Todd Chrisley
Grace of God.
Julie Chrisley
Yeah. So, yeah, it was a lot of fun. Nanny got to go, even though she had a little accident. I think we have to talk about it.
Todd Chrisley
Yeah.
Julie Chrisley
So as we're getting on the plane on Friday, there was like a step down on the plane and she fell. She didn't. I think she misstepped. It was just a misstep for her. And she kind of fell over the chair and hit her side.
Todd Chrisley
She fell into the bar, you know, as we were walking on the plane. And then it was the step down, and the bar was right here. She fell because she didn't do that. Step down and landed on her side on that bar cabinet.
Julie Chrisley
Right.
Todd Chrisley
That's what she landed.
Julie Chrisley
Okay. So, you know, and she said, you know, she was hurt, and it just kind of progressively got worse. I mean, by Saturday night, she was in a wheelchair. I mean, you were having to put her.
Todd Chrisley
I was having to literally push her around in that wheelchair. To get her to dinner. Yeah, to dinner. And then after that, had to get her to her room, get her situated, and she was up all night long in pain.
Julie Chrisley
So Sunday we actually came home early.
Todd Chrisley
Right. We were supposed to come home on Tuesday. We actually got on the plane on Sunday, brought her home, get off the plane, you take mama to the emergency room. And you were there until 1 o' clock in the morning?
Julie Chrisley
Midnight. We were there till midnight and they couldn't find anything. So I think it's just she's has bruised her ribs really bad.
Todd Chrisley
Either that or she's faking.
Julie Chrisley
No, I don't think she's faking. But, you know, I mean, she is. As a matter of fact, her birthday was yesterday.
Todd Chrisley
81.
Julie Chrisley
She turned 81. So Savannah had made lasagna, and I made a homemade carrot cake. So we took it over for her to have because she just didn't feel like getting out, so.
Todd Chrisley
But she didn't feel like getting out.
Host/Moderator
Right.
Todd Chrisley
But she had 400 phone calls yesterday that she was on the phone from 6 o' clock in the morning talking to her friends.
Julie Chrisley
Yes. And, well, let me tell you, actually, what happened. So Savannah and I had to go do something yesterday morning. We left, and Savannah said, well, let's just call and see if nanny feels up to it, and we'll take her for lunch since it's her birthday night. Already talked to her in the morning. Savannah had already talked to her yesterday morning, Chase. Everybody had checked in with her. Literally, I called for an hour, over an hour. She didn't answer the phone. Well, then I get worried that something's wrong, that she's fallen, that something. So I told Savannah, I said, we have to go out there. We. We just got to go out there to Nanny's and check on her. So we drive out there, walk in, she was in her chair, had just. She had been asleep. So she had just woke up. I could tell. I look at her phone. She has 50, 55, 0 missed calls.
Todd Chrisley
This woman's 81 years old and having 50 calls in a day.
Julie Chrisley
She said, I didn't even. I didn't even know my phone was ringing. 50 times, 50 missed calls, and you didn't know? I was like. But then I was so grateful that she was okay. So then that was my first trip to Nanny's yesterday. And then I went back out to Nanny's, took lasagna from Savannah, took carrot cake for her birthday, and she was okay, so.
Todd Chrisley
Well, the purpose of me bringing up all of her phone calls is because she was on that phone all day yesterday.
Julie Chrisley
Yes, because it was her birthday.
Todd Chrisley
Planning trips, when she's going to this person's, this friend or they gonna meet up here, whatever. I call her, and this is her. Hello, Mama? What? What's wrong, Todd? I'm hurting so. Mama, you ain't been hurting all damn day long. You've been on that phone non stop. You was on the phone. Ah, Todd, go to hell. Literally, she flips from being this elderly old woman who got hurt to go to hell. So I knew that at that point, I'm thinking, what is she doing?
Julie Chrisley
Yeah, well, it's okay. But she sounded better today. Well, when? Actually, when I called to check on her, she said, listen, I'm on the phone with Linda. I'm gonna have to call you back. So.
Todd Chrisley
And I'm on the phone this morning, and she calls and she goes, hey, why hadn't I heard? Hold on a minute. One of my friends is. I'm like, you gotta be out of your mind thinking you're gonna call me and put me on hold. Immediately, I went ahead and hung the phone up. Finished my phone call. She ain't called me back yet, and.
Julie Chrisley
She probably won't for a day or two. So it was a busy week.
Todd Chrisley
It was a busy week. And then. And then Cardi B was found not liable today.
Julie Chrisley
Yes.
Todd Chrisley
On with her lawsuit.
Host/Moderator
Yeah.
Todd Chrisley
Which, folks, makes me so happy, because I love Cardi B. You know, Cardi B is the one who did that whop. Which the kids taught me what it's about. Yes, yes, I now know what it's about. But, I mean, I'm just letting you know if you didn't know.
Julie Chrisley
Yeah, I did know that.
Todd Chrisley
Um, but I love Cardi B. And I have literally been fixated on the clips of that process, of that, you know, the attorney that was representing the person who was suing her, how he kept trying to throw shade at Cardi, and Cardi wasn't having it.
Host/Moderator
Right.
Todd Chrisley
Whether it was about her wigs or whether it was about, you know, what she thought about certain things. Do you know what an interrogatory is? No. Do you know what, you know, a deposition is? Yes. And so she was throwing that shade back, and I love that. An opportunist who was suing her, in my opinion, to get. Get $24 million.
Host/Moderator
Right.
Todd Chrisley
You, first of all, you didn't even get your ass beat, and you're suing for $24 million.
Host/Moderator
Right.
Todd Chrisley
So I am glad that Cardi B is off the hook. She. You know, I read this message this morning where she said, if you think I came here to play, I miss my. I miss my kids first day of school for this shit. And you think I came here to play Blank Blank, you know?
Julie Chrisley
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Todd Chrisley
So, Cardi, I love you. Congratulations. Another big thing happened this week. It was the premiere of the documentary on Lifetime.
Host/Moderator
Yes.
Julie Chrisley
Chrisley's Back to Reality.
Todd Chrisley
Chrisley's Back to Reality. And they've had how many episodes?
Host/Moderator
Four.
Todd Chrisley
Four episodes. So a lot of you guys are blowing us up, wanting to know where you can watch this. It's on Lifetime, so you have to go to. You have to. Lifetime has to be part of your cable package or you have to subscribe to it or whatever. Or you can stream it or you can stream it, but I know a lot of people have watched it. And I got information this morning that a lot of people have tuned in to watch it. And for that we are appreciative. So let's kind of do what I have said that I would do was to do a recap. So if you want to start out with maybe the first episode because you've watched them.
Julie Chrisley
Yeah, I have. You know, I was nervous for these episodes to come out, I'm not going to lie. You know, it made me nervous. It. Because we weren't. We were not there. It just felt that they were finishing this series when we got pardoned.
Todd Chrisley
Right.
Julie Chrisley
But they had no idea when they started this series that we were going to get pardoned. Right before it even rap.
Todd Chrisley
Right.
Julie Chrisley
And, you know, even though we've been on television a long time, even though the kids have been on television a long time, this was such a different setup. It was such a different just way of doing it. And so it did. It made me nervous, you know, because we've always been there to. To oversee, to referee, to talk people down off a ledge, to whatever it is, just be parents within this reality show.
Todd Chrisley
Right.
Julie Chrisley
And not to have that. It made me nervous. And, you know, it was very raw. You know, I think there was a lot of emotions. There was a lot of, you know, just everybody going through it. Everybody going through it the best way that they knew how to go through it. You know, and even now, I think everybody's in such a different place because it had such a. The outcome was so amazing and so wonderful that, you know, you look back on that and it was such a hard time for the kids, parents, and. And so I'm a little conflicted by it. You know, anytime. Listen, first and foremost, I have always, from day one, been very clear. My job, my calling in life was to be a mom. And anytime you see your children not in a good place, it's hard.
Todd Chrisley
Right?
Julie Chrisley
It's hard. That is. That was the hardest part of it. But unfortunately, it was what it was.
Todd Chrisley
You know, that it's unfortunate.
Julie Chrisley
Well, how can you say that when as our kids were going at it, they, you know. Well, say that it's unfortunate.
Todd Chrisley
Well, I look at it and I know that you and I sometimes see. See things differently when it comes to terminology that I use or what have you. I don't. The reason that I say that I don't know that it's unfortunate is because our kids have had. They have been forced now to grow up. I don't think that's an unfortunate event. I think that our kids are now saying what they feel without having to suppress it. They're letting it come out. I don't think that's unfortunate. I think the way they speak to each other sometimes certainly is not how they've been raised and certainly could have been handled differently, but everyone Processes pain differently.
Host/Moderator
Right.
Todd Chrisley
Chase clearly processed pain via alcohol.
Host/Moderator
Right.
Todd Chrisley
Savannah processes pain by storing up anger.
Host/Moderator
Right.
Todd Chrisley
And anger and resentment.
Host/Moderator
Right.
Todd Chrisley
And, you know, I mean, I watched a couple of, you know, maybe 10 minutes, 15, 20 minutes of it, But I don't need to watch it because I know you're going to tell me all about it. That's going to be what I get when she comes to bed. Can you believe. Do you know they did this? So I'm going to let you recap it for me. I just feel like that, yes, the whole situation has been unfortunate that it has happened, but I try to focus on the good that is coming from it. Our kids were forced to survive without us.
Host/Moderator
Right.
Todd Chrisley
We had been trying to implement that long before we ever went to prison.
Host/Moderator
Right.
Todd Chrisley
And could not accomplish it.
Host/Moderator
Right.
Todd Chrisley
So as long as we were there to dole out the money to fix the problem, to clean this mess up, they continue to do the same shit. We continue to do the same shit.
Host/Moderator
Right.
Todd Chrisley
When God plucked us out of that storm and placed us in another one, they were left behind and forced to deal with the ramifications of it. Now, should they have had to have dealt with that? No, they should not.
Julie Chrisley
No, they shouldn't.
Todd Chrisley
But in reality, our kids are no better than anyone else's kids whose parents have been incarcerated.
Host/Moderator
Right? Right.
Todd Chrisley
Our kids are no better than no kids.
Julie Chrisley
No kids. That's not something any child should have to go through. To go through.
Todd Chrisley
But we're sitting. Sit around and talk about how bad and horrible this thing has been. But people are dying.
Julie Chrisley
Yes.
Todd Chrisley
We're not dying. We're at home.
Host/Moderator
Right.
Todd Chrisley
So I don't need anyone feeling sorry for our family.
Host/Moderator
Right.
Todd Chrisley
And we don't need to feel sorry for ourselves.
Host/Moderator
Right.
Todd Chrisley
Because what happened, God knew we could survive. Now, what you're going to see on. On these eight episodes, I don't know what they're. What all is in them, because, again, I wasn't a party to them. I have specifically asked. I don't want to see it. I don't want to know when it comes out. It comes out.
Host/Moderator
Right?
Todd Chrisley
And now it's out. So I'm not going to spoil anything because now we've sat down with the kids, we kind of know how this is going to end. So you'll have to tune in to know what the.
Julie Chrisley
I think, you know, last night's episodes, I think you did see Savannah be a little more vulnerable, which I was. I was glad to see that. You know, I was glad to see that she. She was Actually showing her vulnerability. That. That shows growth to me, you know, And Grayson, I'm just going to say, is the shy. And they always say that Grayson's my favorite, which is not true. But Grayson is so wise beyond his years. And the way that he speaks and the way that he internalizes things is like, man, I mean, there were times that I'm like, I wish I could. I wish I could do that, you know, and here I am now 52 years old, and just the way that he came across, you know, and I think it's so different, especially people who followed Chrisley Knows Best and watched Chrisley Knows Best all those years. Grayson grew up on TV from a child. You're seeing this grown up Grayson, and he's just. He's calm, you know, you can tell that he really thinks about what he says before he says it. And that's not something typically that happens in this family.
Todd Chrisley
He gets that from me.
Julie Chrisley
Yeah. Yeah, I know. Yeah. It's not something that typically happens in this family. And we'll leave it at that. And so it was just, I don't know, it warmed my heart. I had many, many moments of tears when I watched these last four episodes because it took me back to that place. It took me back to that place when I was sitting in prison and I knew this was happening or I talked to them on the phone or whatever it was, you know, and so I. I hope that people sense that, you know, we are a real family, that we go through real crap, that we are, you know, are stronger than we think we are and that we're going to come out on the other side. And I think we're proof of that. You know, I think we really are. I think for people that are haters, they love to see the pain on the tube, you know, that's what it was. There was a lot of that. There was a lot of pain, there was a lot of tears. There was a lot of everything. So for those people, they're getting what they want. But I think the majority of people, they can relate because families are messy, families are hard. And our family, as I have said, is a lot. I mean, it's just a lot.
Todd Chrisley
Well, our family's a lot, but our family has to deal with a lot.
Julie Chrisley
Right?
Todd Chrisley
Our family is not. Our family deals with way more than a lot of people in this.
Julie Chrisley
Right. But we signed up for it, too.
Todd Chrisley
We did.
Julie Chrisley
You know, so we had. Again, I don't. People don't feel sorry for us.
Todd Chrisley
We didn't sign up for people climbing over our fences and gates and.
Julie Chrisley
Right.
Todd Chrisley
But.
Julie Chrisley
But to a certain degree, you did when you agreed to go on television and, like, explain. Expose your life.
Todd Chrisley
You know, I didn't sign up for you to come to my house unwelcome.
Julie Chrisley
But I'm just saying it's part of the territory. It's just. It happens. You know, I think the Kardashians would agree. They don't. They didn't sign up. They've had crazy stalkers and people that have done that and been at their house. But they also understand they've.
Todd Chrisley
Part of it.
Julie Chrisley
It's part of the job.
Todd Chrisley
I think that, you know, because I'm. I monitor, you know, I get the reports of social media and what's being said and whatever, you know, and I go over all of that with y', all, you know, every day after these episodes have aired. I think that you've got, according to what I was given yesterday, that it's about 50% in Chase's favor and 50% in Savannah's favor.
Host/Moderator
Right.
Todd Chrisley
You know, of. Of the people's opinions about how this is going so far. And I think about that from the perspective. I think about that from the perspective of, okay, but it's not really about is Chase winning this argument or is Savannah winning this argument? Because both of them are fueled on pain.
Julie Chrisley
Right. But I think that people like to. To see in themselves. If they see in themselves maybe a little more Savannah or a little more Chase, that's.
Todd Chrisley
Then that's how they fall. That's right.
Julie Chrisley
You know, so if you are the Chase of your family or you are the Savannah of your family, that's who you're going to gravitate toward.
Todd Chrisley
Right.
Julie Chrisley
You know, because I think it's just.
Todd Chrisley
Natural and, you know, I think it's ironic that, you know, you know, several people have Instagram messaged or whatever, Twitter messages and said, well, I feel bad for Chase because Chase has never been loved. Chase has always been the outcast of the family. What? So, I mean, the irony of that.
Julie Chrisley
Well, I think it was always this vein of, again, Chris Lee knows best. And being a comedy, that Chase would always be like, no one cares about my birthday. No one does this. Chase has been loved since the moment he was. I mean, so that is not true.
Todd Chrisley
Chase.
Julie Chrisley
And if you ask Savannah today, she would tell you, Chase is definitely the favorite right now because it goes in ebbs and flows with Todd.
Todd Chrisley
It.
Julie Chrisley
It goes in ebbs and flows.
Todd Chrisley
It does not. It doesn't go in ebbs and flows. I show up for Whichever child is in need at the time.
Julie Chrisley
Right. You're right. You do.
Todd Chrisley
And you know, and that's not to minimize Savannah, because Savannah is a pillar of strength. But I know what it feels like to be that pillar of strength for everyone that you build up this facade to make the world think that you're the strongest person in the room when you're crumbling on the inside.
Host/Moderator
Right.
Todd Chrisley
And so I'm not going to minimize anything about my daughter, because now everyone, as everyone says, Savannah's the favorite. I just think that Chase needs me more now than Savannah does.
Host/Moderator
Right.
Todd Chrisley
And so I'm going to be there for him when he needs me.
Host/Moderator
Right.
Todd Chrisley
Just as I would be there for Savannah if she needed me.
Host/Moderator
Right.
Todd Chrisley
And have. But I do not have what you would say. A favorite.
Host/Moderator
Or.
Todd Chrisley
Let me rephrase that. I do have favorites at times, and they shift. But my love for each of them is beyond anything that I will ever be able to explain to you. I love Chase beyond words. You get mad because you feel like I'm coddling him too much.
Host/Moderator
Yes.
Todd Chrisley
Sometimes.
Julie Chrisley
You and Savannah butt heads. I get angry. I don't get angry. I get frustrated. Because y' all butt heads because you're so much alike. And you'll be like, I can't believe she's done this or said this or whatever. And I'm just looking at you sometimes like, are you really saying that? I've been married to you for 30 years. And it just the same crap, like, and. And the same with Chase sometimes the things he does. And you're like, I can't believe he did that. And I'm like. And I start thinking I'm crazy. Like, I start convincing myself that I'm crazy because I'm like, how can he sit there and say, because this is identical to the crap that he has done for 30 years. Let me say Chase does what Savannah does. And then you're like, I can't believe it. I can't believe it.
Todd Chrisley
Let me say if I have done the same things that my two. That those two have done, and you've had to put up with it. Let me say here on Chrisley Confessions 2.0. I beg for your forgiveness. I throw myself at the mercy of your feet, and I beg for you to forgive me.
Host/Moderator
It.
Julie Chrisley
Well, and I accept your apology. For now.
Todd Chrisley
For now.
Julie Chrisley
But, yeah, I mean. I mean, there will literally be times with Chase that I'm like. And it almost gives me PTSD because it takes me back.
Todd Chrisley
Gave you that.
Julie Chrisley
Like, Todd Circa age 28. Age 29, age 30. And I'm like, oh, my God, I can't do this again. Well, I can't do this again. Like, is. No, I can't.
Todd Chrisley
The thing that frustrates me in our marriage with you is that you literally want to just tune it out. You want to.
Julie Chrisley
You know that I tuned it out. But at. At a point, after 30 years, I have learned what I can control and what I can't control. I have learned that these children, yes, in our eyes, they are our children, but they are adults. And at the end of the day, I can't control what they do. And at the end of the day, I don't want to control what they do. Now, if they are doing something that is harmful to themselves or to others, yes, I'm going to step in. But I can say I don't agree with you. I think these decisions that you're making are not the right ones. But at the end of the day, they've got to make them because it's not on me at this point. And you get frustrated with that because I don't get all up in arms over it and try to fix it. When they're adults now, do you not.
Todd Chrisley
Feel like that the reason you have the luxury to feel that way is because you know I'm going to be the one to step in and take.
Julie Chrisley
No, because I wish you wouldn't. I really wish you.
Todd Chrisley
How do you say that you really wish I wouldn't when you're the one coming to me telling me all this?
Julie Chrisley
But just because I tell you again.
Todd Chrisley
You know, again, same thing that she's done in our entire marriage.
Julie Chrisley
Just because I tell you.
Todd Chrisley
Did you see so and so's handbag? Oh, my God, I would love that. But just because that was her subtle hint.
Julie Chrisley
I didn't say I'd love that. I said I love that.
Todd Chrisley
Just let me know to go get it.
Julie Chrisley
No, it's not just because I say I love.
Todd Chrisley
Did you know that Chase is drinking again?
Julie Chrisley
But just.
Todd Chrisley
But now don't say anything.
Julie Chrisley
But just because I say I love something doesn't mean I expect you to go out here and get it.
Todd Chrisley
Then why do you come and tell me that Chase is doing things he shouldn't be doing? Why do you do that?
Julie Chrisley
Because. Because you know why I tell you.
Todd Chrisley
Please, the world wants to know.
Julie Chrisley
Because if you found out and thought that I knew and didn't tell you, your issue would be with me, not even with him.
Todd Chrisley
Well, then that's where we're going to have a disagreement. Because as his mother, you're. You should be telling me so that I can protect our son.
Julie Chrisley
Right. But at the end of the day, of course, I want you to know what's going on with our children. If there's something that I know that I think that you don't know. And I don't tell you that just because I want you to go off on this tangent or try to prevent them from doing something or whatever. But. But we are the parents, and it is us against them.
Todd Chrisley
Kind of like inmates against staff.
Julie Chrisley
And so, yeah, that's the reason. Not necessarily that I expect you to do something always. And I think because you and your mind think, because you are this fixer, that you feel like it is your job to always fix.
Todd Chrisley
It is.
Julie Chrisley
And it runs you literally ragged because you are trying to fix so many things on a daily basis. And a lot of them, you do an amazing job and you're able to. It works. But so many things that you want and try to fix are not really fixable, are not really fixable in the timeframe that we gotta fix something.
Todd Chrisley
Well, I feel like that. And I will say this here to you on air for everyone in the world to hear it, whether it pisses you off, it pisses Savannah off, it pisses the world off. I'm not going to ever walk away from one of my kids. I'm not going to walk away from Chase when he's down, when he's having an issue. Call it baby and call it codependency. Call it whatever you want to. I'm not losing my child to anything. And so Savannah gets mad because she says I'm babying him, right? That he. He needs to grow up. Tough love. What. How much tougher does it have to get right?
Julie Chrisley
But again, everybody sees tough love to ever. Tough love to one person, tough love to another is. Can be totally different.
Todd Chrisley
Let me.
Julie Chrisley
But at the end of the day, you are his parent. I am his parent. It is our job to do what we think is in the best interest.
Todd Chrisley
And in my heart, what I believe is in the best interest of my son is that he has gone. He is literally getting the help that he needs. He is doing what he is supposed to be doing. He's following his program. He is being held accountable. Is there one thing I've not held him accountable for?
Host/Moderator
No.
Todd Chrisley
Have I not called out the bullshit?
Julie Chrisley
Yes.
Todd Chrisley
Have I not said, this is the plan, this is what you will do if you step out of it, this will be the consequences? Yes, I've done that.
Julie Chrisley
Yes.
Todd Chrisley
I just don't have to go report that to his sister. Well, no, I don't have to report that to his other siblings. No, I don't have to report that to my mother. I have to report that to you because you are his mother, Right. You and I are on the same plan with him, correct?
Host/Moderator
Yes.
Todd Chrisley
Okay. So we can move on. So my son is doing good today, right?
Julie Chrisley
Doing good.
Todd Chrisley
My son's doing great today. Now, going back to the episodes, I guess, was it last night that all the stuff or some of the stuff was addressed, that it came out about this email or whatever that Lindsay had sent to the FBI? Yes, I did not see it. I don't need to be hurt over and over and over again.
Host/Moderator
Right.
Todd Chrisley
But you told me that it. That it aired.
Julie Chrisley
Yes, that that part aired.
Todd Chrisley
So for all you know, because we are being bombarded through our publicist, you know, now this morning, wanting comments about what has come out. I'm going to give one comment, and it's going to be here on this podcast. We're not going to do press about what has come out. It's unfortunate. You know how I feel. You've lived with me through it. I will always love Lindsay. She is my daughter. The. The hurt is so deep throughout the entire family. I can forgive because she is my child. I understand that you. That you may not be able to. That Chase, Savannah, Grayson, they may not be able to, and I respect that. I can. I can forgive. And I ask God every day to help me to forgive that forgiving someone doesn't mean that you are opening your life back up or your door back up, you know, or placing the rest of the family in harm's way. It just means that I have forgiven you for what you have done and that I love you and that I need to love you from a distance, and that's where I am. We already knew that this email had been sent. It had been read in open court. We already knew that Lindsay had come and sat down with Krista NOWITZ and Jonathan DeLuca, our attorneys, and she acknowledged what her role was, that she was communicating with Josh Waits with the Department of Revenue. We already knew that.
Host/Moderator
Right.
Todd Chrisley
The world is now getting to know that.
Host/Moderator
Right.
Todd Chrisley
That wasn't a choice that I made. It wasn't something that I said. I wasn't even here for the filming.
Host/Moderator
Right.
Todd Chrisley
But it is part of the story that has now been told.
Host/Moderator
Right.
Todd Chrisley
So I do not. For all of you who are wondering, where do I stand with Lindsay? Lindsay is my daughter. She is a smart Beautiful young woman who, to my knowledge, is an exceptional mother, and I love her with all of my heart and soul. But we do not have a relationship. And as I said in starting this, the hurt is so deep that I don't know that that will ever change. I can only pray to God that God temper my heart that he. Because I have to believe that in order for you to do what she did and what she was involved in, that the hurt she. She was dealing with something to do that. And we know it had to do with the show and, you know, them taking her off the show and wanting to make her an ancillary cast member or whatever. I know she believes that I should have been able to have stepped in and changed that. You know, that how I fought for that and how it was pushed back on me, but that would have been no reason for you to do the things that you've done. So I'm at peace with where things stand right now. Lindsay is living her life. She's there in Georgia. We're here in Tennessee. We don't cross over into her lane. She doesn't need to cross over into ours. I respect that. Her siblings do not wish to have anything to do with her because they look at it. And as I've sat down with all three of them, all three of them, which was amazing to me, said, dad, if you want to have a relationship, that's fine. That doesn't change how we feel about you, because we know that is your. That is your child. Just know she can't ever be around us again. She can't come in our home. She can't be around our children when we have them. We're not setting ourselves up for any more hurt.
Host/Moderator
Right.
Todd Chrisley
And I have to respect that because I'm dealing with adults now. Adult children.
Host/Moderator
Yeah.
Todd Chrisley
So they get to decide who's going to be in their life.
Host/Moderator
Right.
Todd Chrisley
Does that make me sad? You know, it makes me sad.
Host/Moderator
Right.
Todd Chrisley
Because I never wanted this. But what I also know is that we're not the only family dealing with this.
Host/Moderator
Right.
Todd Chrisley
And, you know, they say misery loves company. Unfortunately, there's a lot of company out there to be had when it comes to these kind of situations.
Host/Moderator
Right.
Todd Chrisley
Greed, the love of money, the.
Julie Chrisley
Just like you said, pain is everyone has their own pain, and everyone has their own process that they're dealing with that they've dealt with in their life. And, you know, again, as much angst as I've had over this, I'm glad that it's all being put out there and Then we can move on. Because this is not something that I want to wallow in. It's not something that I want to keep rehashing this story. These eight episodes should bring as much.
Todd Chrisley
Closure as the world is going to get.
Julie Chrisley
Yes. And as possible now as a family. It's something that we will continue to work through. I don't know that we'll ever work through it completely, just because I don't think that you can have these kinds of fractures in your family and the kind of trauma that we have experienced and gone through as a family. And I don't know that you ever get through all that. So for that, you know, all I can do is hope that we get to be in a better place and that each person is, at some point becomes as healed as they can.
Todd Chrisley
Right. And healing doesn't have to take place universally. It doesn't have to take place as a group.
Host/Moderator
Right.
Julie Chrisley
Well, that's where you. I think that's where you get into trouble, whether it's a family, a marriage, a friendship, whatever, thinking that people get through it at the same pace and that just because you're through with it and just because you've moved on and you've put it in its proper place, that it's good. Well, that doesn't mean that I have or that someone else has or. And it's not, you know, it's kind of the same way as grieving. You know, everyone grieves a different way and a different pace. And whether you're grieving a relationship or what. What it is, you know, And I think we all have to constantly remind ourselves of that.
Todd Chrisley
Well, you know, clearly you see the divide between Chase and Savannah in these first, whatever, four episodes you said you watched.
Julie Chrisley
But I can tell you just from my perspective from that point, and we weren't there at that part. Like, we were. We were gone. We were in prison. I think it's better today, Right. A little bit better today.
Todd Chrisley
I think it's a lot better than.
Julie Chrisley
What it was then, 100%. So.
Todd Chrisley
But again, we need to let. We need to let people watch the other four episodes to get to where they know what. What is happening.
Host/Moderator
Right.
Julie Chrisley
But I'm just saying in real life, because, you know, this was shot months ago.
Todd Chrisley
I understand, when we were in prison, but the last episode is still being shot today.
Julie Chrisley
Right.
Todd Chrisley
So let the people get to that last episode to where they know.
Julie Chrisley
Absolutely.
Todd Chrisley
But I think that for me, it's. And to go back to what you were saying you've heard me say to Chase, when he says to me, but, dad, I've apologized to Savannah 100 times. And I said, then you apologize 100 more, because first of all, you're apologizing for the same thing that you've done over and over and over again. You have called her names, you've screamed, you've yelled at her, you have berated her. And I said, and then you turn around three minutes later and like, oh, I'm sorry. I didn't mean that.
Julie Chrisley
And you didn't show up. You didn't show up when someone. When she needed you the most. And I understand you couldn't. He couldn't show up for himself at that point, so it was impossible for him to show up for her, but that doesn't mean she still didn't need him to show up.
Todd Chrisley
Some of the. Some of the messages that were sent to me this morning, you know, to review, one of them was very powerful, and it said, savannah, you did an amazing job. You did something that no one else could have ever done for your family, and you deserve your flowers for that. But I need you to show Chase some grace, because Chase did not have what you had in order to walk through this. And just because your grandparents or your. Or your brother did not have the same tools and the same level of strength to get to where you got to, doesn't mean they cared less. It just means that they process their pain differently.
Host/Moderator
Right?
Todd Chrisley
And. And I thought to myself, you know how powerful that was.
Host/Moderator
Right?
Todd Chrisley
And I think that for those that are saying, wow, Savannah's coming across as a. Savannah is really rude to her grandparents or whatever. Again, walk in her shoes. Yeah, you got to walk in her shoes. Because when you, as an individual, are going off about someone that has hurt you and then someone standing on the sideline saying, chill out. You don't need to say that about them. You don't want to hear that at that moment.
Host/Moderator
Right?
Julie Chrisley
And that was, what, 40 minutes that you're seeing, right, of an episode.
Todd Chrisley
She's had 28. 28 months.
Julie Chrisley
She's had 28 months, 24 hours a day, seven days a week to have to get through this.
Todd Chrisley
That's right. And, you know, and no one stops to think about that. You know, once you take on that role of controlling everything, it just becomes so natural, right, that you. That you just do it.
Host/Moderator
Right?
Todd Chrisley
And here, now we're home. She's not in control anymore. She's not in control of us. She's not in control of chasing Grayson or Grayson and Chloe, our mama, all of that's. Been taken away from her and we've now taken it back. Not because she didn't do an amazing job, but because it was never hers to have to deal with to begin with.
Julie Chrisley
Right.
Todd Chrisley
And so now let her live her life.
Julie Chrisley
Yes.
Todd Chrisley
Let her go out here, make whatever mistakes that she needs to make at 28 years old.
Host/Moderator
Right.
Todd Chrisley
Let her go out here and have those wonderful times that she has.
Julie Chrisley
Whatever wins that she has.
Todd Chrisley
Let's celebrate the wins and let's, you know, sit here and say I told you so privately, you know, but that's her life, right. It's Chase's life. It's their screw ups to make.
Host/Moderator
Right.
Todd Chrisley
And your kids are making these same mistakes. We're just not putting them on Christly confessions. We're not putting them on every news channel. They're not in every tabloid. Your son has smoked weed. You called him, he smoked cigarettes, he's had premarital sex. Your kids have done it. Yours is just not being blasted for it. So at the end of the day, I think you have to give grace all the way around. You have to give her that grace. You have to give Chase the grace for sitting in his pain. He didn't have the strength to come out of it.
Host/Moderator
Right.
Todd Chrisley
Savannah wouldn't let it stick. Yeah, Savannah kept dusting it off of her every morning and got up and kept going.
Julie Chrisley
Absolutely. But because she had these other people who were depending on her, Right. And so she didn't have the option of saying, I'm going to sit in my pain.
Todd Chrisley
That's right. But now she doesn't have to deal with them and she's being forced to process her own pain.
Host/Moderator
Right? Yeah.
Todd Chrisley
Because now she's got that extra time, Right. To literally start letting it come crashing down.
Host/Moderator
Right.
Todd Chrisley
And so.
Julie Chrisley
And ultimately, you know, what we want for all the kids, what we want for our parents, what we want for ourselves is to deal with it, heal as best you can and move on. And, you know, I know that's what.
Todd Chrisley
I want for, you know. You know, someone said to me last week, you know, we want to protect our children from pain. And I said, it'll be the biggest mistake that you ever do in parenting to protect them from the pain. And I can say that now, folks, because I've lived it. Protecting your children from certain levels of.
Host/Moderator
Pain.
Todd Chrisley
Prevents them from being able to process things in a healthy way and prevents them from taking risk.
Host/Moderator
Right.
Todd Chrisley
And some of the greatest rewards that we've ever had have been through risks that we've taken.
Host/Moderator
Right.
Todd Chrisley
Some of the greatest lessons we've learned have been also through some of the deepest pain that we've ever had to process and work through.
Host/Moderator
Right.
Todd Chrisley
So I don't want to protect my children from pain. I want to protect them from bad decisions. I want to protect them from harming themselves, making decisions that's going to harm them.
Host/Moderator
Right.
Todd Chrisley
But if you're going to do something, and I know you're not going to die from this, you know that no one else is going to suffer more than what you've suffered from this mistake that you've made, then you need to work through that.
Julie Chrisley
And I think that's growth on your part because that's not typically.
Todd Chrisley
I just said I've not always been this way.
Julie Chrisley
Right. And I.
Todd Chrisley
This has come in the last 28 months.
Julie Chrisley
It's coming, coming slowly, day by day by day, because you have to acknowledge that there's only so much you can do.
Todd Chrisley
Exactly.
Julie Chrisley
And there's only so much you can. Protection you can give. And there's only so much you. I mean, and ultimately they're going to make decisions that are not decisions that you feel like are the best or that. That you would make, but it's decisions that they have to make because you just said they have to learn. And we all have learned through some of our decisions, and we haven't always learned through the good decision decisions that we've made. You learn through those bad decisions. You learn when it hits you in the purse, when it hits you in the heart, when it hits. You know, that's when you truly learn.
Todd Chrisley
Life will kick you in the ass.
Host/Moderator
Right.
Todd Chrisley
It will strip you down. And you need. For me, when you say, you know, that you. I haven't always been that way. I have it because it goes back to what I said with Savannah for 28 months, having control of everything.
Host/Moderator
Right.
Todd Chrisley
You get so comfortable in knowing that if you control it, then you know what the outcome's going to be.
Host/Moderator
Right.
Todd Chrisley
And then you're surrounded by people that are very comfortable in you controlling everything because they don't have to do it. And if you fuck up, then they didn't do it. I didn't do it. You were driving the car, and I think that's.
Julie Chrisley
You kind of said that. That's kind of directed at me a little. Not a little bit, but a lot. It is.
Todd Chrisley
No, no, I'm not. It's. It's really not. It's really directed at as what my life experience has been, not just within our family, but within, you know, certain friend groups or you know, with my mother or growing up with my, you know, with my brother or whatever, everyone was willing to let me control and let me make all the decisions.
Julie Chrisley
Right.
Todd Chrisley
Well, Todd knows how to do this. Well, Todd can fix this. Well, it's better to let Todd handle that. And then if something didn't work out, well, if I, if it was going to get screwed up, I could have done that myself.
Host/Moderator
Right.
Todd Chrisley
You know, and then I carried that my whole life into our marriage.
Host/Moderator
Right.
Todd Chrisley
And you.
Julie Chrisley
Yes. Right.
Todd Chrisley
You were very.
Julie Chrisley
I think you can't have two people that are fighting for control every day, because if you got two people fighting for the control every day, all it's going to be is the fight.
Todd Chrisley
Right. I don't feel like that we ever had that, though. I don't feel like, you know, and correct me if I'm wrong, I don't feel like we ever had a control.
Julie Chrisley
Well, no, because it was pretty. I mean, you were going to control certain aspects of things and.
Todd Chrisley
And you were. And you were going to control certain aspects of other things.
Host/Moderator
Right?
Todd Chrisley
And those two lanes never rarely verged.
Host/Moderator
Right.
Todd Chrisley
When it came to our children. This is how I want them raised. They're not going to be exposed to this, this and this and this. And everything that I tried to protect them from, they have done. So none of that worked.
Host/Moderator
Right.
Todd Chrisley
So I think now I have to look at it, and I've had 28 months to sit and think about nothing but what could I have done differently?
Host/Moderator
Right.
Todd Chrisley
What I could have done differently was to step aside, right. And say, go.
Host/Moderator
Right.
Todd Chrisley
You were determined to bust the. Bust a gut, bust the gates of hell wide open. Go.
Host/Moderator
Right.
Julie Chrisley
Well, and I think for. For anybody watching this podcast, whether you've got a newborn sitting there in your arms or you're breastfeeding as you're listening to this podcast, or you've got a child that's 50 years. I think we all can agree that parenting is a challenge. And parenting is a job that you.
Todd Chrisley
Hardest job you'll ever have in life. And the least. And the least. The only job that you will have that you will get the least amount of appreciation for.
Julie Chrisley
Well, and sometimes. But I think also it's a job that is forever changing and that you as a parent have to embrace that change and you have to acknowledge, okay, this work, this didn't work, but there are no perfect parents.
Todd Chrisley
But I also think that we have to talk about that. Yes, you're changing, you're growing up, you're evolving. But just because you're changing doesn't mean I have to change.
Host/Moderator
No.
Todd Chrisley
But I think my views don't have to change.
Julie Chrisley
Your views don't have to change. I think your core values. Your views don't have to change. But I do think we have to grow. I do think we have to. And this is just me. As. As your children grow and as they get older and each child is so different that you can't parent all these kids the same.
Todd Chrisley
Let me tell.
Julie Chrisley
You know, you have to meet them where they are.
Todd Chrisley
Sometimes I feel like Sybil in this family, as a parent, oh, my God. I got to have a different personality for each child.
Julie Chrisley
Right.
Todd Chrisley
And I'm worn the hell out. I mean, I'm literally worn the hell out. You know, Chase. I say that Chase is an emotional lesbian, that he's the emo in our family. And Savannah, you know, Savannah is just this bull in a china shop after her mother. Then Grayson is more like me.
Julie Chrisley
Very kind. Grayson.
Todd Chrisley
No, he is very kind.
Julie Chrisley
Chase is just like Todd. Chase is just like that.
Todd Chrisley
What about Savannah?
Julie Chrisley
Savannah, you said she's like me. She is a lot like me. But she's a lot like you. As much as she's like me. She's like you.
Todd Chrisley
Grayson takes more after me. He is kind. He is sweet.
Julie Chrisley
Oh, my. Oh, my gosh. I hope it's not raining, because this lightning's getting ready to strike out here.
Todd Chrisley
But, you know, I feel like that, you know, all jokes aside, that, you know, every child is different.
Host/Moderator
Yeah.
Todd Chrisley
But you, as a parent, are expected to be the same.
Julie Chrisley
And a certain part.
Todd Chrisley
Yeah, I think to be the same.
Julie Chrisley
I think our kids would agree that we're pretty much the same when it comes to things that we will accept and won't accept and things that our views haven't really changed now. I think over time, they've evolved. And because you can't just stay the same because then you get stagnant, you have to continue to grow as a person. Even though we're parents, we are people first, and we are our own person first and foremost.
Todd Chrisley
And that's. It's literally like God is in this podcast right now, because he literally brought you back to something that I wanted to talk about when you just said, we are people, too. We are humans. We have feelings. Yes. We're your parent, but. But we have our own life, too.
Host/Moderator
Right.
Todd Chrisley
I have been struggling so much over the last two weeks with that.
Host/Moderator
Right.
Todd Chrisley
Because I feel like that our kids don't see us as fellow human beings.
Host/Moderator
Right.
Todd Chrisley
They don't see us as people who have our own lives or who want to have our own lives.
Host/Moderator
Right.
Todd Chrisley
They don't see us as people who have dreams and plans and aspirations. They see us as just their mom and dad and that, you know, let's go dump all of our shit off on them and let them try to help us clean it up. And while they're doing the cleaning up, we'll go out here and screw up again. I don't want to do that anymore. I'm not signing up for that, for this next chapter of my life. I am a grown 57 year old man who has feelings, who has aspirations, who has dreams that I want to pursue. I've raised you to this point of accountability. You are young adults. I'm your dad, I'm here for you. I love you and I will always be there at a you call me, I'm getting up and coming. But you need to respect now that after 28 months of me sitting with Todd, I know what my life is going to look like going forward and it's going to be very different than what it was for these last 30 years. I have dreams, I have plans, I have aspirations. I'm going to be happy. And my happiness is not going to be wrapped up in all of my children's successes or their failures. My happiness is going to be in my relationship with God and with who I know that I am as a man and with what I want to do in my life to make this world a better place. Not just for me, not just for you, not just for my children. It is for me to get up every day and know that I did the best I could yesterday, but God give me the strength to be better today.
Host/Moderator
Right.
Todd Chrisley
So for you to bring that up was just like a God whisper to me because that's something that I've been wanting to talk about on this podcast since we really have been home.
Host/Moderator
Right.
Todd Chrisley
So I mean what, what is your takes? Because you had the same 28 months to sit with you.
Host/Moderator
Right? Right.
Julie Chrisley
And yeah, I mean I agree with you. You know, I still feel like first and foremost mom, I know that that is just in my heart hearts. And I still have a 12. We still have a 12 year old. So my, our job isn't completely.
Todd Chrisley
Chloe's 12, but she's 17 because she's already told me that she's got lady business going on and that she is a full grown woman.
Julie Chrisley
Okay, well, she's not. So, you know, we still have, we still have a few years where we've got, we've Got some. Some parenting to do, and I'm okay with that, you know, but, yes, there are things that I want to do. There are things that I want to, you know, because we have. We've raised kids our whole life, and.
Todd Chrisley
We'Ve put our stuff on the back burner.
Julie Chrisley
Right. And you know what? And I think our. To me, it shows that I have been a good parent because my children know that we. Our life has been them.
Todd Chrisley
That's right.
Julie Chrisley
It really has. So they can never say that, you know, that we were ever selfish with our time, with our money, with our love, with anything, that they got it all. They really did. And so for that, I don't have any regrets.
Todd Chrisley
And I think. And I don't think. And for the parents listening to this, it's okay for you to feel this way. It's okay for you to have frustration over not being appreciated or not being heard as a parent. That's okay for you to have those feelings, and it's okay for you to say, I love you, but you cannot have my entire life. You cannot have every waking second of my life. You're out here living your life, having a great time. I get to do the same thing. And I don't feel that diminishes the love that you have for your child. I just think, as Savannah loves to say and as Chase is now, let me tell you something. Ain't nothing worse than going to therapist, because when you go to therapy, the first thing you coming out of there with is, I have to create healthy boundaries. I need to create healthy boundaries. Diane.
Julie Chrisley
Yes. So with that being said, I think we have to go out of here today and work on setting our healthy boundaries.
Todd Chrisley
Yes, folks, I'm going to set healthy boundaries. So on that note, this boundary has been set, and it's the end of Christly Confessions 2.0 for today. So good luck, God bless. See you next week.
Date: September 17, 2025
Hosts: Todd Chrisley, Julie Chrisley
Podcast: Chrisley Confessions 2.0 (PodcastOne)
In this candid and emotional episode, Todd and Julie Chrisley return to the mic with renewed honesty and a no-holds-barred reflection on recent events in their lives and family. They dissect their experiences over the past week, recap the new Lifetime documentary "Chrisley's Back to Reality," and address lingering family tensions, including deeply personal revelations about forgiveness, boundaries, and healing. The Chrisleys offer raw insights into coping with public scrutiny, family fractures, and the shifting roles of parenthood, all delivered in their signature blend of humor, vulnerability, and straight talk.
"This woman’s 81 years old and having 50 calls in a day." – Todd Chrisley (05:57)
"You didn’t even get your ass beat, and you’re suing for $24 million." – Todd Chrisley (08:43)
"Anytime you see your children not in a good place, it’s hard. That was the hardest part of it." – Julie Chrisley (11:58)
"Our kids are no better than anyone else's kids whose parents have been incarcerated…that's not something any child should have to go through." – Todd & Julie Chrisley (14:19–14:27)
"Grayson is so wise beyond his years…he really thinks about what he says before he says it. That’s not something typically that happens in this family." – Julie Chrisley (16:36)
"Forgiving someone doesn’t mean that you are opening your life back up…It just means that I have forgiven you for what you have done and that I love you and that I need to love you from a distance, and that’s where I am." – Todd Chrisley (29:09)
"I have dreams, I have plans, I have aspirations. I’m going to be happy. And my happiness is not going to be wrapped up in all of my children’s successes or their failures." – Todd Chrisley (49:01)
This episode is a testament to the Chrisleys' commitment to transparency—revealing how fame, hardship, and personal growth have reshaped their family. They blend humor with heartbreak, conflict with compassion, and ultimately encourage listeners to embrace imperfect parenting, forgiveness, and their own journeys toward healthy boundaries.