The Weight We Carry (feat. Chase Chrisley)

Summary

Chrisley Confessions 2.0 — "The Weight We Carry" (feat. Chase Chrisley)

Original Air Date: July 8, 2026
Podcast: Chrisley Confessions 2.0 (PodcastOne)
Guests: Todd Chrisley, Chase Chrisley

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Episode Overview

In this deeply candid and often humorous episode, Todd Chrisley welcomes his son, Chase, for an intimate father-son conversation on sobriety, family legacy, trauma, parenting, personal growth, and the long shadow of fame. Openly confronting their shared history — both the good and the difficult — they lay bare struggles with addiction, generational differences in values and coping mechanisms, and the transformative power of faith and self-awareness. The episode is rich with playful banter but grounded in honest, vulnerable exchanges about accountability, healing, and hope for a better future.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Father-Son Banter: Setting the Tone

• Playful Jabs and Roles
  • Todd jokes about not usually bringing “people of lesser caliber” on the show, and Chase fires back: “Because you talk the whole time. You talk at mama the whole time. That's why it's not the Chrisley Confessions. It's the Todd Lecture show." (00:36)
  • The episode opens with the Chrisley brand of humor, establishing their dynamic — love underneath the roast.

2. Chase’s Sobriety Journey

• Sobriety Milestone and Reflection

  • Chase shares his upcoming one-year sobriety milestone: “I'll be a year sober August 1st.” (11:03)
  • He contrasts his life today to a year prior, crediting God and self-work: “The shape that I was in versus the position that I'm in now... that's just God though.” (11:09)

• Early Substance Use

  • Chase admits to drinking and smoking marijuana in high school but rejects the "gateway drug" narrative:
    • “I've never once in my life smoked weed and was like, yeah, let me do some coke ever.” (12:09)
    • Todd pushes on the generational divide in attitudes about marijuana, highlighting their differing perspectives.

• On the Root of Addiction

  • Chase describes how trauma, not substance addiction per se, was at the root: “My problem was I never processed any of my emotions. I'd rather just numb it and bury it than feel it.” (19:51)
  • His partying escalated from fun-seeking to pain-numbing as the family’s legal troubles mounted:
    • “I was drinking to have fun... then when everything happened with us and the government... all I wanted was to numb the pain.” (18:36)

• Impact of Fame and Family Trauma

  • Both reflect on how rapidly acquired fame, wealth, and pressure affected their early adult years:
    • “You were magic. From the time that the cameras started rolling, you were magic. And then I would say that probably within two years of being on the show, I started noticing a shift.” (16:35)

3. Generational Patterns and Parenting Regrets

• Todd’s Admission of Control and Overprotection

  • Todd reflects on how his own childhood trauma made him overbearing:
    • "When that happened, I just remember saying, I will never allow anyone to hurt me again. I will never allow myself to be in a situation to where anyone has control of me.” (21:41)
  • He connects his protectiveness to a desire to shield his children from similar pain, sometimes to their detriment.

• On Giving Too Much

  • Todd voices regret over giving too much to his kids:
    • “My worst regret is with y’all is that you were given too much. Would you agree with that?” (32:44)
  • Chase agrees, saying he never learned the value of a dollar until he lost a lot and had to make it back:
    • “Now I know the value of a dollar, and I appreciate the value because now you know how hard it is to make it.” (33:36)

4. Accountability, Growth, and Control

• Shift in Self-Perception & Legacy

  • Chase acknowledges personal growth:
    • “I’m a totally different human.” (34:37)
    • “I’m not trying to prove anything to anybody but myself, which sometimes is the toughest person to impress.” (17:44)

• Todd on Control as a Coping Mechanism

  • Admits his need for control ran as deep as any addiction:
    • “The control was certainly the biggest outlet... it's just as dangerous for you as drinking or drugs.” (60:38)
  • Credits prison as a clarifying experience, giving up some of his need for excess:
    • “...these 28 months that I was away from you was some of the best 28 months mentally for me... I realized I don't need five homes, I don't need access to 20 cars.” (51:26)

5. Family, Humor, and Moving Stories

• Multi-Generational Relationships

  • A recurring joke involves Nanny leaving Chase behind for the casino; their attempts to call her add levity but also highlight family closeness (04:17–05:29).

• Moving Mishaps and Savannah’s Birkins

  • Hilarious chaos ensues as they recount helping Savannah move:
    • “So Savannah calls and says, dad, I need for you and Chase... I was giving up my time for free.” (64:31)
    • Todd misidentifies Savannah's new AI security system voice as the neighbor threatening to call the police, ready to fight before getting corrected (68:33–71:12).

6. On Peer Pressure, Influence, and Social Media Era

• “Bad Boys Club” & Excess

  • Todd and Chase discuss their environment of privilege, inherited connections, and the dangers for impressionable youth:
    • “You were living in excess. You were living an excessive life in every aspect...” (30:35)

• Social Media and Fame

  • They joke about everyone thinking they’re famous now (48:51), Chase noting, “Everybody thinks they're famous. Everybody. And everyone is not famous.” (49:07)

7. Trauma, Faith, and Finding Purpose

• Religion as Anchor
  • Todd and Chase return often to God and faith as the foundation for recovery and growth.
    • “You can't practice faith while you're living in fear.” (23:13)
    • “God did not build me to break.” (53:06)
• Letting Go of Fear
  • Both reflect on how fear — of loss, failure, or not “measuring up” — has ruled parts of their lives, and they’re learning to release it.

8. Memorable Quotes & Moments

• On Survival and Hope

  • “I'm grateful to God. Extremely grateful to God.” — Chase (37:07)

• On Their Bond

  • “You were the thing that calmed me. I've shared that with you.” — Todd on Chase as a baby (55:34)

• On Legacy

  • “I want to leave my kids set up to where they never have to worry about…” — Chase (46:49)
  • “Let’s not worry about leaving them set up. Let’s worry about leaving your kids in a place where they are self-sufficient.” — Todd (46:58)

• On Living in the Moment

  • “You can't enjoy getting a new bedroom set because you're worried about what the comforter's going to look like... Enjoy the moment.” — Todd (42:29)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 00:36 – Show kicks off with banter; Chase introduced
• 04:17–05:29 – Call with Nanny about leaving Chase for the casino
• 11:03–11:09 – Chase on his sobriety & transformation
• 16:35–17:44 – Effects of fame and family trauma
• 19:51–20:12 – Trauma vs. addiction
• 23:13 – Todd on faith vs. fear
• 32:44–33:36 – Regret over giving too much; learning value
• 42:29 – Todd’s lesson on enjoying the moment
• 46:49–47:26 – Talking legacy, self-sufficiency, and parenting
• 51:26 – Todd’s prison experience as formative
• 55:34–56:35 – Todd's story of Chase as his calming force
• 64:31–71:12 – Family moving day stories, AI camera mishap
• 75:00–76:07 – Reflections on Savannah's stuff, family support

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The Takeaway

"The Weight We Carry" is an unusually raw and spirited episode of Chrisley Confessions 2.0. The Chrisleys drop the veil, trading laughter for real talk about sobriety, pain, redemption, and generational change. Their chemistry is unmistakable, their honesty sometimes uncomfortable, and their love for each other, at the end of the day, is what truly takes center stage.

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Notable Quotes

• Todd (on Chase’s progress):

  "To see a child step back into the way that a parent raised that child and wanted that child to become is such a great...one of the greatest moments that a parent will ever have is to know that they got to live long enough to see the fruits of their labor and all the prayers. Because you are proof that prayer works." (59:02)

• Chase (on self-worth):

  “I don't know that you ever figure that out. Well, I think like I saw this quote...who do you want to be in 10 years? You write that down and you chase that, but you're never going to obtain it because in that 10 years, then you're going to want to be 10 years further. So you're always chasing the man that's 10 years ahead.” (49:43)

• Todd (on family legacy):

  "You don't get to start where your parents finished." (44:31)

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Episode Vibe

Candid, unfiltered, funny, at times heavy but always caring. This is the Chrisleys stripped down to their truths, turning hard-won lessons into real talk for their listeners — and each other.

Transcript

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Welcome to Chrisley Confessions 2.0. Now, I normally do not have guests on the show that.

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Because you talk the whole time. You talk at mama the whole time. That's why it's not the Chrisley Confessions. It's the Todd Lecture show. Continue.

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I normally don't have people of lesser caliber on this show because I don't like to confuse. You know what our purpose is here.

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I thought your purpose was to give back and change lives.

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To make sure that I was helping a struggling young talent. And so today, ladies and gentlemen, I want to introduce you to. What's your name again?

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I'm Chase. I'm actually your son. I know that you've forgotten that for several months now. Yeah, you're you.

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You came from me.

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Oh, yeah.

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Oh, wow.

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Trust me, I'm trying to change.

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And this whole new look that you have going on, what is up with that?

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Trying to go to the top.

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Trying to go to the top.

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Okay. And then kick you off the top.

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Oh, we. I tell you, it's something with you all the time.

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Yeah. I'm constantly being used. I wasn't. This is not my podcast. As everyone knows, we have another podcast. Read the comments that I carry. And I. Not only am I. Not only.

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Let's talk about that.

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Not only was I rushed to be here early because you decided to end your first shooting early, totally inconvenienced my day. But I'm happy to be here for you.

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And you know, I appreciate.

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And I'm not. I'm not getting paid.

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Apparently you get paid every day. Would you like me to count the ways that you get paid?

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No.

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Okay, Exactly. That's what I thought. Let's address this whole elephant in the room because so many people, you know, you've had this shtick for years of woe is me. You're the prodigal child. You've been cast aside that no one loves you. And now today, you come in here dressed like Tom Brady and you know, I don't know if that's an assertion of you trying to say, I'm in the room, I'm here to take over.

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I am.

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Or if that's you actually saying, I've got my together. Thank you, dad. Thank you for my family, thank you for God. Or if you're going to take credit for all of it yourself. Because you know, you do sometimes give that kind of.

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I take.

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I take credit for everything. Oh, yikes, Yikes.

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So let's talk about that.

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Let's talk about that.

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Go ahead.

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Yeah. No. Yes. I have gotten my together and I just work every single day so I can beat you. And then once you and I are on the same playing field, brother, brother, brother, you're going down.

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Well, I don't know that you're going to live long enough for that. Because I've had many. Don't take me off the field. The last being the feds. But I'm back.

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So the one bear that you just don't poke.

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Well, I don't poke them. Because everyone that was involved in the whole shit show prosecution of fake bullshit has now been fired or they have been cast to the side.

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I told one of my friends, I said they picked the wrong person to go sit down in one spot for 28 months and give him time to plot. They did.

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You know, I was in D.C. a month or so ago.

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Speaking of, wasn't Nanny here?

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Mama was here.

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Where is she?

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She's already gone. The casino.

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She told me that we. That she was waiting for me because she's left me the last three times.

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Was you going with her?

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Yes.

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Well, hell, she left you. Are you calling her?

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Absolutely.

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Hey, she sent you the voicemail cause she thought she was gonna catch a ride.

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Hey. Hello, Nanny.

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Why?

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Where are you?

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I'm on my way to my happy place.

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You, if you let. You leaving me again. Turn the car around now.

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Well, I'm not turning my car around. It's already on automatic.

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And listen, I got plans this weekend.

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Jason, you're not in it next week.

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Turn the car around.

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Mom, it's not automatic.

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Automatic.

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It's cruise control.

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It's cruise control. Turn the car around.

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No, I'm not. It don't go back that way.

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It goes straight ahead. Bye.

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It don't go back that way. It goes straight ahead. Wow, so you got lit by your nanny?

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It's fine.

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As she just sat here and said she does not love any of her grandchildren more than she does the others.

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That's a lie.

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Yes, I think that is true.

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Just like

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here we go with this False narrative again. I mean, listen, I'm going to tell you like I told your sister the other night, I need y' all to come up with a new tagline.

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Dad, I'm not even worried about your. I've got so much on my own plate that I'm gonna finish mine first.

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Okay, so then what you should.

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I highly recommend you doing.

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What do I need to finish?

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Just focus on your plate.

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Oh, no, no, my plate's clean. My plate's clean. You know why my plate's clean? Because I scraped all y' all shit off of it, that's why. My plates. Claim loving father, yet realistic father.

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Never been that. Nothing about you is realistic. So let's tone it. Let's turn it back.

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Okay, so tell me, what is it that you have going on lately that has gotten you all like this? Because it's a little overdressed for this show. But it's okay.

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This was last minute, not planned.

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Okay.

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I started my own real estate business. So we were interviewing people this morning. That's going great. I've got my supplement company that I'm working on that's going to be targeted more towards women and children and providing them with some healthier products.

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So you have your supplement line, you have the real estate going on, and how do you feel?

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I don't. I've got a couple other things.

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Well, let me tell you something about all the things that you have. If you want them to work out, you shut up about them.

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You just asked. Because you literally just asked.

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Everyone is not cheering for you to win.

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That's a fact.

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Everyone is not cheering for you to win.

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So I'm staying very quiet. And I know who does not want me to win. Right here.

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Lies.

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I think you do want. You want. I think you do want me to win, but you don't want me on your level.

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I want you way past my level. Because nothing. I have been waiting for so long for me to ask one of y' all to buy me a car.

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Dad, you do that already.

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But you hadn't done it yet.

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We did it all by you. A car.

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Actually, that's been a while ago. It's time for y' all to Kardashian me again. Well, stop treating me like I am just some step parent. Y' all need to treat me like I'm Chris.

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Then why don't you be Chris? Don't go to go. Don't get locked up. Chris didn't get locked up and fumble the whole damn bag. You can't keep your hands off People and just. Shit.

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Listen.

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Pissing people off. That mouth. If you could learn to close that mouth.

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Oh, you are a good one to talk.

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But I got it from you. So we both have the disability, then.

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If I have a disability with it and you got it from me and you recognize where it came from, doesn't that give you a head start on how to correct it?

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I'm trying to.

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Okay, yeah, you're still doing it. But you're disrespecting.

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You just.

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You're just.

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We're literally doing this right now.

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No, I need you to be more like Kylie.

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Dad. If I looked like Kylie, I'd be so much more famous and so much wealthier.

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So say you acknowledge I don't have as much to work with as Chris does.

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That is absolutely disgusting that you just said that.

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So you really are in such. Cause, you know, some people have commented. Well, I got some DMs saying that. I don't know if you know this or not, but your son is still high. He's high on the.

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I've seen that, too. And Aaron, I don't know what if we're switching cameras or lighting, but I look bloated and big as hell in some.

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Aaron tries to do that shit on purpose because she tries to make us unattractive. And I think it's because maybe, you know, I don't know if she's getting paid on time or what, but I do think she. With our cameras, because some angles.

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I look like dog water. And I know I don't look like dog water in person. You look like dog water. And I've got. I don't even know how much you pay for that suit. If you look like dog water today, that ain't on me.

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You are dressed to the damn nights. Yes.

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And y' all never look like. Y' all are crazy. Well, they said that I looked fat.

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I've seen that. People, people. On the. On the Grammy.

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You were not fat.

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They said that I looked fat.

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They said you look fat. They said I look.

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And I looked. And I look either high. Yeah. Hi. It's funny.

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Of all the things they said, those

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are the ones you're all going to. Yeah. Don't comment about our looks. You can comment about our character, but not our appearance.

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Yeah, literally. Damn.

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But so they act like I don't know my child. Like, I would not know that after everything I've been through with y'.

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All.

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Correct. Listen, if I was. It's not even an issue for me anymore.

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And by the way, he never did heroin. Just so. Just heroin? Yeah, just as an outtake. My son has never done that.

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I never. Was that a comment?

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Yeah.

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Okay, first of all, heroin makes you ugly, so I'm not gonna. I would never do that.

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Right. So how do you feel though? Because, I mean, you are clean, you are sober.

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I will. I'm a year sober August 1st.

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And so how does that feel?

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Amazing. I was just talking to one of my friends about it, like right after our business meeting, like a year ago today. The shape that I was in versus the position that I'm in now. I mean, it's. That's just God though.

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But, you know, let's go a little bit deeper into it because you have shared things with me in this past year that I didn't know. That you started drinking while you were in high school. Yeah, right.

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Yeah, for sure.

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And you started smoking marijuana in high school.

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Yeah, but I. Marijuana I don't think is a bad

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thing, but you understand how I feel about marijuana.

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Yeah, that's. That's your generation. But like, there's no deaths linked to marijuana. Like, there's like, you're not gonna over.

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But you don't think that marijuana is like a gateway drug leading you to other things?

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I do not know. Okay, Like, I can say that just from experience, right? Like.

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Well, I don't know how you can say it from experience because if you started out doing alcohol and then alcohol to weed, weed to cocaine.

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Okay, first off, I've never once in my life smoked weed and was like, yeah, let me get. Let me do some coke ever.

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Well, I mean, because you've tried to explain that to me and I don't understand.

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Yeah. Never in my life have I ever smoked weed and been like, yeah, I want to do cocaine.

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Yeah.

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You have had to educate me. Would you say that's fair?

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Yeah.

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That you've had to educate me on Daddy, I was high then. You just didn't know it.

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I mean, I think you knew it. You just didn't know. You didn't know I was high, but obviously you could.

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I knew something was wrong.

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Yeah.

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But I'll. But, you know, in my mind.

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But, like, I wasn't. I was never around you high, like, on, like, when I was. I was doing blow.

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Right.

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Or. Or. And I never drank around you.

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No. So I would have smelled that.

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You would have. You'd just seen, like, the hangover.

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Right. Was. So maybe that was what it was. But, I mean, we knew for years that the light had dulled in you because you had been magic. From the time that the cameras started rolling, you were magic. And then I would say that. I would say that probably within two years of being on the show, I started noticing a shift in the attitude.

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Well, I mean, I think that that is just such a unique situation that not many people will ever be in, like, being, what, 15, 16 years old. Those are hard. Hard enough years.

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Right. They're very hard, formative years.

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They're hard on the parents, on the kids. So then you add TV and money into that and then ego, of course. And I think I had to have, like, an E. Like, my ego is definitely not what it was.

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Right. I would agree with that.

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Yeah. But. And. But you're a lot happier, or at least I'm a lot happier because now, like, I'm not trying to. I. The. I'm not trying to prove anything to anybody but myself.

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Mm.

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Which sometimes is the toughest person to impress.

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Right.

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But I mean, no, I don't think going back to it. Weed has never made me want to do anything. It's other than be hungry, happy, and sleepy.

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Okay.

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That's it. Like, I. If I smoked weed, I didn't even want to go out. Like, I didn't want to be. I'd rather be in my living room, you know, alcohol for me. Well, I would drink it to celebrate and have fun when I first started. And then Then when everything happened with. With us and the government.

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Well, you were already bad before that happened. But I was bad that it got out. Really bad.

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But I wasn't drinking. I was. I was drinking to have. I was. I was still having fun. I was just doing it too much. It was way too often.

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So would you say that.

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And then I. Once everything was going down with our family, I was drinking to just feel nothing.

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That was my question. Do you think that. That your level of partying prior to any of this stuff happening was you wanted to have a good time?

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That's it. Yeah.

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And then when all this stuff happened to us, I wanted was to numb the pain.

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Yes.

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Gotcha. Okay.

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And for me, alcohol and cocaine, they go together like milk and cookies.

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Like, you don't understand that.

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Yeah. And you wouldn't because you. You've never done it, but, like, the end. I don't think it might not be like that for everyone, but the majority of the people that. Who have done it and experience or have, like, like messed around with it, they'll tell you that, like, if you're after about a drink or two, you're ready.

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So what, because you didn't have, like. Because, like, in my mind, you know, I've dealt with Kyle totally.

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And that's a totally different situation.

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Yeah. That was. You didn't have those withdrawal symptoms. You didn't have those.

[B]

Well, they said when I went to rehab, right. They said that I had a trauma problem, not an addiction problem.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

They said that my problem was I never. Never processed any of my emotions or I had never let myself process any of my emotions. I'd rather just numb it and bury it than feel it.

[C]

Right.

[B]

And you have to feel it in order to move on from it. So I was just carrying all of this trauma around for years.

[C]

Right.

[B]

And I think even before, like, everything happened, there was other trauma that I think that, okay, well, I'm having a good time. It also pushes this a little deeper.

[C]

Right.

[B]

So I'm good, but it's just not manageable.

[C]

Right. And don't you feel like that? Because I know. Because I've had trauma in my life.

[B]

Don't you feel like you process your. Like, I. I went and experienced life, like, being famous and it. I had a lot of great times, for sure. Made a lot of mistakes, too. I'm grateful I made them when I was in my, like, what, late teens and in my 20s, and now I'm dialed in and focused. I'm grateful for that. But the trauma, like, I had already Started drinking and stuff like that. And so that was an easy way for me to. I know that's there. I know that works. Not to feel anything. I think with your trauma, you've never drank, You've never done anything. So yours eats away at you from the inside. And you have to feel like you're. Like. You want to be fully in control of every situation and your surroundings and stuff like that. Out of fear.

[C]

I think there's a lot of truth to that, because it's all that I know.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And it's pattern, you know, my childhood, my trauma, that happened to me as a child. When that happened, I just remember saying, I will never be. I will never allow anyone to hurt me again. I will never allow myself to be in a situation to where anyone has control of me.

[B]

And that's why. And that's why you're so over the top and overbearing. Like, not in a bad. I'm not saying, like.

[C]

Well, I mean, you. You know, when. When I finally came clean about what had happened to me, it helped. I think it helped y' all to understand a little bit about why I was so protective of y'.

[B]

All. Absolutely.

[C]

You know, why you were not going to spend the night with someone at their house.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

You were not going. You're. I don't care who they are. I don't care how nice their house is. I don't care about any of that.

[B]

But I think. Yes, that does. It's. It's just such a. It's such a fickle topic because, like, you don't want to pass down that fear into someone else, you know? Because now, like. Like, I'm gonna worry about my kids. My kids not having sleeping, like, sleepovers. That ain't. That's not happening out of that fear, you know? So it's like, at what point do you draw the line where you're just. Where you really. Because you can't be a man of God and. Which we both are and constantly live in worry and stress.

[C]

I love that. I love that. You know, as I've said to y' all for many years, you can't live. You can't practice faith while you're living in fear.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And, you know, I do see. I do see so much change in you, and that's a great thing, because I'm going to be honest with you. In my mind, I had already said, I'm going to have to bury him. And you were running with a group of people that had access to everything. Money was flowing like water. You had kids dying. You've had friends that have overdosed and that are now dead.

[B]

Yeah, I've also had friends who got clean and thought that they were. Have you heard of kratom?

[C]

No.

[B]

So the natural kratom plant, it helps people. Like it helps people coming off opioids, alcohol, anxiety, depression. It helps veterans with ptsd. Like there's thousands.

[C]

And this is what President Trump signed a thing for?

[B]

No. So my friends got sober by using that. And it's not addictive. Then these companies have come in and synthesized all these other chemicals, like seven. Oh, where it's 10, 15 times stronger than morphine. And then it goes up to where it's 50 times stronger than morphine, then 250 times stronger than morphine. That's the different chemicals. And like they've put these in gas stations and in smoke shops and that. It's killing people like flies. So I've had like four friends pass away thinking they were buying the natural kratom that helped them get sober. But it's been misbranded. It's the. There's been so much misinformation put out there and they were sold the wrong product and it killed them.

[C]

And this stuff is being sold in gas stations. But why is the government not doing something about this?

[B]

Well, I'm working with a group right now. We're trying to keep natural kratom because natural kratom saves. It literally saves lives. The science doesn't lie. You can't overdose on it. Like, if you take too much of it, you just, you throw up. You cannot overdose on it. But these.

[C]

But what does it actually do?

[B]

It relieves like the cravings and it helps with the cravings and.

[C]

But you have to take it for life.

[B]

You don't have to take it for life. No, but you can take it until you feel better. I mean, I, I took it when I first got sober and it helped me.

[C]

So. Because this is new to me, what you're saying.

[B]

Yeah. And we can talk about it again on another episode and I'll tell you more about it.

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but it just goes back to your point. Yeah, I was running in a circle where we could do whatever we wanted, pretty much. And as much as you want and as much as.

[C]

And you were living in excess. You were living an excessive life in every aspect of your life. Cars, houses, clothes, drugs, alcohol. You know, going to these strip clubs. You know, we all know strip clubs. You know, y' all were living in excess.

[B]

We were living like a. Like a.

[C]

It was a bad boys club.

[B]

Super.

[C]

Yeah, it was a bad boys club because everyone, none of y' all worked.

[B]

I mean, I did.

[C]

You were on a show.

[B]

That's a job.

[C]

Okay?

[B]

But you made.

[C]

It ain't like. It's not like you was in a factory pulling a 12 hour shift.

[B]

So let me tell you something. Working with you, I would rather run the entire Amazon distribution center than to have to listen to your mouth and that disgusting, evil look in your eye. Give me a hair cap.

[C]

Now

[B]

continue.

[C]

You were in a bad boy club. Y' all were members of the Lucky Sperm club. Your daddies had gone out here and done a shit ton of great things, made a ton of money.

[B]

I love how every single thing has to come back to daddy, made money.

[C]

Because that. That's the group you ran with.

[B]

You didn't give me any money.

[C]

Get the hell out of here.

[B]

No, you did not send me. Do not even play with.

[C]

We're not doing that. You was put on a show because of me. I created a show.

[B]

That show last. You came because of me.

[C]

Oh, my God.

[B]

Check the numbers. Do the polls. Everybody's tired of the rinse and repeated same shit that you say.

[C]

They're tired of the rinse and repeat. You're right. At the end of the day, I'm

[B]

original content that comes naturally.

[C]

Okay, whatever. You were running with a group of kids whose parents were still footing the bill, largely footing the bill for just about everything they were doing. So at the end of the day, with that kind of exposure, you have. You have had. You've had to bury friends. Because there. No did not mean no to y'.

[A]

All.

[C]

Right?

[B]

It wasn't a thing.

[C]

Right? So I have talked about it with your mother, and I've talked about it with y' all that when people ask me, what is your worst regret? You know what I've said? My worst regret is with y', all is that you were given too much. Would you agree with that?

[B]

I think that you should have made us do stuff, like, in order to get things that we wanted.

[C]

Like work.

[B]

Yes. I think, like, just, like, whether it's, like, whatever. It could have been just something, because I didn't think, like, I didn't learn the, like, the value of a dollar until I lost a lot of money.

[C]

Right.

[B]

And had to make it back then. Now I know the value of a dollar, and I appreciate the value because

[C]

now you know how hard it is to make it.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

And. And had I instilled in y' all a better work ethic?

[B]

I don't know about work ethic. I think that. I mean, between me and Savannah and Grayson, like, we all. You did. You did show. Instill good, like, a great work ethic in all of us, because we all have seen you work. So that's, like, the standard that I set myself to. Like, okay, there's no such thing as business hours. It's whenever the phone rings.

[C]

That's right. That's right. But you're now at a place to. Where when you look back on your life from where you are today, let's go back and just say a year ago, because that's where you've set your time stamp.

[B]

Well, that's just how long I've been sober.

[C]

Right? Yeah, but from where you are today with a clean, sober mind, A heart that's not as heavy as it. That's lighter than it's ever been. A different spirit that you have.

[B]

I'm a totally different human.

[C]

When you look at where you are today versus where you were a year ago, does it scare you?

[B]

I don't think scare me is the right word. I think disappoints me.

[C]

But you don't look at your life a year ago, and, like, when I came home, you looked horrible.

[B]

Well, dad, when you. You have to realize that the mental space that I was in, like, whenever all that went down and y'.

[A]

All.

[B]

Because we've never been away from each other, and I. And never want to be away from each other maybe, like, for a day or a couple hours or three days, but that was like a death. That was like two deaths to me. And, I mean, you know, I would call before you went away, I was on the phone with you. I call you 15, 20 times a

[C]

day, and you're still dead.

[B]

No, I don't. I'm working.

[C]

No, you still do.

[B]

No.

[C]

I got a text message from you last night. I woke up to this morning. It sends me a text message at, like, 12:50 something in the morning and goes, hope you're well. I'm asleep.

[B]

Yeah, I hope you're doing well.

[C]

And then the first message I get, how are you?

[B]

How are you? How are you doing? How's your mental. Sorry for being a good guy?

[C]

And then Chase and Grayson every morning. Hey, Palace.

[B]

Yeah, but, like, when they took that. Whenever you guys went away, then obviously, like, the show stopped, and, like, now looking back on it, I don't care about that, and I don't care about the money that was lost. I mean, I. I care. Like, it'd be. It would have been. It'd be nice to have the money back that we were screwed out of. But when y' all went away, that was like a death to me, and it was just not something because I could have been. I could have been there more for Savannah and helped Savannah more, and I'm really ashamed of that. But I was in a position to where I didn't care if I woke up. I just genuinely didn't care.

[C]

Right.

[B]

I was like, do whatever, and if I don't wake up in the morning, then I don't have to hurt anymore.

[C]

And so that's why I go back to that question. When you look at where you are today versus where you were at that

[B]

moment, and I'm just grateful to God.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

Extremely grateful to God.

[C]

And.

[B]

And it's crazy because, like, you wanted me to go to that place out in Arizona.

[C]

I want you. I always want my children to have the very best.

[B]

Yeah. And. But I had found this other place on your own that was faith based. I was like, I think this one's where I'm gonna go. And you didn't like that.

[C]

You know, it caused me after. No, I didn't. But I didn't like it for a couple of reasons. One of the reasons that I didn't like it is because I didn't have control over it.

[B]

The second reason, doesn't that get, I

[C]

mean, oh, I turned loose of a lot of control lately.

[B]

Not. But you're better. But you still are do that. Like you still like to have. You still control a lot of shit. And I understand why now, because I feel like I'm doing the same thing. But it's exhausting. And it's like, are the things that I'm stressing out about and trying to control so much, are they. Are they that important?

[C]

Right. Which I think I told you a couple of weeks ago. I said, son, why are you focusing on that? That's not going to be a thing.

[B]

I know, but like, like, you know how we were growing up, like, with like our homes, like you were all. You always had. Our every home we lived in has been meticulous. So that's like what I want to be able to replicate, but in reality, that's not a real way to live.

[C]

Well, I, you know, and I've said

[B]

this, but I love living that way.

[C]

Right.

[B]

But I can't afford to have five people walking around my house, dusting it and cleaning it every single time something goes sideways.

[C]

Well, let me just tell you something. It's one of the things that I have said to your mother, if I had my time to go over, would have been different because.

[B]

But what part?

[C]

A lot of parts. There's a lot of parts that if I had my time to go over, there's a lot of things I would have done differently. There would have never been a 32,000 square foot house. I've said that to you before. There would have not been the cars.

[B]

Wrong. Wrong.

[C]

There would not have been the cars that I've given y'. All.

[B]

But that's mode that motivates all of us.

[C]

I don't think so. I think.

[B]

Oh, it does. I think I can tell you right now, it motivates you.

[C]

I think, for me. And then, you know, because I'm getting ready to Go into this next. My final run around the sun.

[B]

And you say that. That you never drank, you never put anything in your body. You have top of the line medical care, and you are a bastard. Those people live to be 112.

[C]

I. This is my last final lap, and I've got way less Runway in front of me than I do behind me. And I want y' all to learn in this last lap that I'm doing, I want to undo some of the damage that I've done.

[B]

You can start right now by writing me a check.

[C]

Oh, God. Some of that damage that I have done is you worrying about the house being so perfect. Because I don't want my grandchildren having that stress. I don't want my grandchildren feeling like, oh, my God, I just dropped this and I've got to hide it. I've got to hide it. No, we're going to clean that up. We're going to do the best we can. We're going to move on from it. I want them. I want my grandchildren to have a freer spirit, to be less burdened, and

[B]

that's what I want. I want that, too. I'm just at a point right now, especially I just moved into my new house. I'm like, first off, like, I want to get everything done right now.

[C]

Yeah. I'm doing this with you. I hear it every day. So. Yeah, I'm aware.

[B]

Yeah. Well, where do you think I got it from?

[C]

Well, but I think that. And I have to go back to you because I want this podcast to be honest. I said to you, you do what you can afford to do right now.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And I said, you're putting the cart before the horse. You can't have drapes installed until you have the wall covering put on.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

You can't have the wall covering put on until we get the fabrics picked out.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

You can't have a rug put down until all of the above has been put together.

[B]

Yeah, but see, like, the things you're saying right now, 95% of the. Of the world, they don't do these things that you and I are talking about.

[C]

Oh, I'm aware. I'm aware. But it's the way you've been brought up.

[B]

It's.

[C]

It's what you and I love it. But what I'm telling you is I'm giving you. I'm giving you another tool to put in your toolbox. When your mother and I first started, there was no such thing as. Mom, can you tell me who your drapery lady is? I need her to do drapes for my home? No, we went to a drapery shop, which was a curtain shop. We bought store bought curtains and your mother and I on a ladder installed them and we, and I did it two or three times so I knew how to do it. And then I put them up so we had store bought curtains. You don't remember that because God has been so good and shown such favor on us. So you don't know that, but that's because you hustled. Yes, well, I hustled and your mother hustled right beside me. Yeah, but at the end of the day, when you're. What I'm trying to bestow upon you now is that slow down, take each day for the blessing that it is. You can't enjoy getting a new bedroom set because you're worried about what the comforter's going to look like or what the bedding is going to be. You can't enjoy the bedding because you can't worry because you're worried about when the rug's going to come in. Enjoy the moment. And if you enjoy the moment when it all comes together, it's a great moment. But you can still have small, wonderful moments that lead you to that great moment. I never, I never had that.

[B]

Yeah, and that's. It's crazy that we're talking about this because literally this is exactly what I just dealt with yesterday. Like, I'm want everything to be done the right way and I don't want anything out of line. I want it, you know, exactly how I want. And it's just like, number one, this is not my forever home. So, like, I don't need to go in there and spend all this unnecessary money. But, yeah, I'm not. I was talking to my buddy who's helped me with a bunch of this stuff, and it's like, I'm not enjoying. I don't know how to enjoy those, those little things.

[C]

Well, I'm trying to give you that tool. When you stop doing these things that you're doing to impress me, then you'll be okay, because I'm already impressed because you're my child. But you were over there trying to kill yourself to make your house look as close to what you grew up in as you can. And it's not possible. So what I'm saying to you is, and this is something that I've talked to you about, to your sister, to all of my, all of your siblings, and to this end of the world, to all the young people that watch our shows, you don't get to start where your parents finished.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And you got to start showing yourself grace and saying, am I better today than I was yesterday? Not am I better today than I was last year?

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Am I better today than I was yesterday? And as long as each day that you say, did I do better today than I did yesterday? That's called progress. And those wins start stacking up and you got to start accepting the wins. You got a new house. You just had televisions installed. You just had furniture delivered. Do you understand that you're in the top 1% of people in the country?

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Give the bless.

[B]

And I did it on my own.

[C]

Right. Give acknowledgement for that blessing that you got. No, you didn't do it on your own.

[B]

I do.

[C]

God put you in that. In that position.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

So I think that, you know, looking

[B]

back, but like, are you still struggling with that? Like, how to enjoy the. Because, like, to me, there's not. There's nothing enjoyable about moving. There's nothing enjoyable about having a look

[C]

at moving as a fresh start. And I always have, but I don't

[B]

want to do it.

[C]

And when I get finished with a house, I'm bored at that point. And I want. And I've seen something else that's greater or that I like better, and I'm like, oh, God, I want to do that now. So I think I'll always have that. And I don't. You know, I was made to feel ashamed of that, you know? You know, 20 years ago. When is enough enough for you? Why don't you stop? You've got everything that anyone could ever dream of. It was never about me having what everyone else could dream of.

[B]

It's about what you.

[C]

It was about what I could dream.

[B]

And that's like what I'm. It's crazy that we're talking about this because these are literally conversations I had 12 hours ago. And it's not about when is enough enough. I just, I have goals, I have dreams, I have things that. And not just. Yeah, yeah, like there's materialistic things that I want too, but it's also legacy. Like, I want to leave the world a better place than I found it. I want to leave my kids set up to where they never have to worry about.

[C]

Well, let's not worry about leaving them set up. Let's worry about leaving your kids in a place to where they are self sufficient, to where they can do it on their own.

[B]

Yeah, absolutely. But if there's a hiccup, if there was a hiccup it wouldn't be a.

[C]

Well, you can always be their safety net, but they don't have to know that safety net is there. It's one thing for a child to know. You know what? I know I've messed up, but I know that I got a mom and daddy that they're gonna. They're gonna help me get through this, versus, you know what? I don't give a shit that I tore that car up because my mom and dad's got enough to where they're gonna buy me another one.

[B]

See, that's that, kid. That's the thing. We. None of us have ever had that

[C]

attitude, because y' all were not raised that way. Y' all got your ass slapped. If y' all did something that was wrong, then you got your ass slapped. You had things taken from you. You did not go out here and tear up cars and think that I was going to replace them. If you had. If you messed up a car, I tore your ass up.

[B]

I'm aware.

[C]

If you was out here messing up your room or tearing up things that I'd spent hundreds of thousands.

[B]

We didn't do that.

[C]

You didn't do that because you was raised to understand, to respect what. What you had access to.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And I think that. And I say this because I do believe this in my heart, I think that your generation is the laziest generation that our country has ever had. And that's statistically proven, by the way.

[B]

I mean, you. I don't give a. About them. I know I'm not.

[C]

But the. At the end of the day, I look at your generation, and your generation has never had the struggle that my generation has had, and my generation never had the struggle that my mom and daddy's generation had. And you keep going backwards.

[B]

Well, I think you can go. You can go on both sides on that. Right? Like, I could say, okay, well, you. You had the. The luxury of whenever you messed up, not everybody in the whole world found out about it just like that.

[C]

Amen. That's a luxury. That's correct.

[B]

That. That was a luxury. Now, that's not the case. As far as. As far as being lazy. I think that that has a lot to do with the Internet because everybody thinks they're famous. Everybody.

[C]

And everyone is not famous.

[B]

Yeah. And everyone thinks that they can go in front of a camera and make people laugh.

[C]

Well, don't you think that that's because of tick tock and Instagram accessibility? Huh? Accessibility. Right. Because just because you've got a picture on the Internet does not make you faint, but.

[B]

Or good looking.

[C]

No, because, I mean, there's a lot of good looking dummies. There's a lot of good looking dummies. We've worked with a lot of good looking dummies. I've worked with several good looking dummies.

[B]

Yeah, I have one too.

[C]

So, I mean, you know, it. It comes down to knowing your self worth, knowing your value.

[B]

And I think I'm still, I'm still figuring that out. And I don't know that you ever figure that out. Well, I think like I saw this quote and it was like, okay, who do you want to be in 10 years? You write that down and you chase that, but you're never going to obtain it because in that 10 years, then you're going to want to be 10 years further. So you're always chasing the man that's 10 years ahead.

[C]

But you know what happens when you're chasing that man who's 10 years ahead? You're losing the man that you are now.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

So you can't literally be over here while the biggest part of you is over here. Because always trying to catch what's in front of you causes you to lose control of what you've already got a hold of. Whether that's a marriage, your child, your finances, your walk with Christ. Embrace what you have now and let it grow organically. I'm not saying that you don't need to have a hustle, because I have raised y' all to hustle.

[B]

Yeah, that's not gonna.

[C]

But you can still hustle while enjoying the moment. And how.

[B]

Because I can, like, tell you that, like, you. I can. The position I'm in right now, I'm in a fantastic position. Like, especially considering where I was last year. I'm crushing it right now. But, like, I'm wanting, like, I'm like, all right, I did this. Now let's get here. Then we get here, then we get here.

[C]

That's okay. But you need to have moments of, you need to have moments of where you enjoyed this win before you start attacking the next one. And I had to learn that. And again, we've talked about this so many times on these shows and personally and privately, that these 28 months that I was away from you was some of the best 28 months mentally for me, and more clarifying for me, because I realized I don't need five homes, I don't need access to 20 cars. I don't need. There's only so much money that you need. There's things you want you want to have money. You want to have large sums of money, but if you're not doing something good with it, then are you really enjoying it?

[B]

And so for me, I definitely think that that's. Yeah. And, you know, giving back.

[C]

Right. And, you know, you have said to your mother and you've said it to me that I'm different today, that I'm different, that I'm not the same dad that went to prison.

[B]

No.

[C]

Wouldn't you be disappointed if I was? After what we've been through?

[B]

No, I'm not. I just think. Yeah, you've just. You don't go from where you were at to sitting in prison and it not change you. I'm just grateful that it didn't break you.

[C]

Well, I'll tell you something. God gave me that promise when he gave me life.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Cause God didn't. God did not build me to break.

[B]

Because a lot of people come out of prison and they, like, they're struggling.

[C]

I have a lot of friends that are out right now that are struggling, and I try to help them every day.

[B]

Yeah. And you. And that's very admirable. Like, I've had so many people come up to me and just thank me for, like, what you've done for people that are either helping them with their release or helping them get their, like, the right amount of time credit and stuff like that. But, like, what's more impressive is that you did go. They did take every, like, try to take everything from you. They put. They split your family up. They put you in prison.

[C]

They tried to destroy our name.

[B]

Yeah, they tried to destroy our name. You went, sat down, you came home, and you've been home, what, a little over a year. And I would say that you. I mean, you're in a better position now than before. Than before.

[C]

But that goes back to. That goes back to scripture, when God says, I will redeem you. I will restore you seven times times.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And God has done that.

[B]

And, you know, I remember, but, like, that's so impressive.

[C]

But I remember you could have folded

[B]

because regardless of the. Of the. The pardon or not, like, you still had all these people online talking all this.

[C]

Well, people are going to talk about us forever.

[B]

Yeah, but just spell the name right.

[C]

Right, exactly. But, like, you pronounce it right because we're not Chrisley's. There's no Z in it.

[B]

Yeah. Like, you are able to tune all these people out and just dial in. And that's what I'm trying to get better at in learning from you is Like. Like I don't pay attention to comments, but, like, I let, like, just unnecessary people and noise. A noise that's like, close to me, around me. Take up time that could be used better.

[C]

Well, if people are not bringing joy to you, if they're not bringing positivity, and if they're not bringing you honesty, they should not have a seat at your table. Because I love you with all of my heart and soul. You bring me. I've said this a million times, that each of y' all give me something different. Each of y' all bring me and have since the day you were born something different to the table. And that's a wonderful thing because you don't want everyone to be the same.

[B]

I line your pockets and I make you laugh,

[C]

But you know you have. There was always my life. When before you came along. Poor. I was in the middle of a storm. My life was. I felt like I was always trapped in the middle of a storm, and the storm was raging all the time. And then I met your mother, and then she got pregnant with you, and then we had you. And I can remember the moment that I held you. The first time. It was the first time that I felt like that I was not on fire inside, that everything was not crashing. And whenever I was having one of those moments, I realized I could come and hold you. And you became my Xanax. You were that. You were the thing that calmed me. And I've shared that with you.

[B]

Yeah. Do you need to hold me right now?

[C]

No, I'm good. God has calmed the storms in me for the most part. But, you know, then Savannah comes along, and I remember the moment that I held her because I held her first leg in it. And. And I remember looking in her eyes and it was like she looked straight into my soul. And I felt like, okay, there's another calming there's.

[B]

That happens when two demons connect.

[C]

I so want to do. You gave me something for Father's Day where you gave me a great gift. He did. He did kind of Chris Jenner me. But the gift that you gave me is probably going to go down in history as being one of my all time greatest gifts. And I'm grateful that I have it. It was a video that you did, and Savannah wasn't there to do the video.

[B]

And Savannah was sick.

[C]

Yes. And so it was. It starts out with Chloe, then it starts out with Grayson. And you know, they're thanking me for being a wonderful father, how much they love me. And then you come on there, you know, with this whole shtick that he has. And it was really funny when it was, you know, you being accurate too, being you. And then because Savannah wasn't there, the next clip was Chase being Savannah. I have watched that clip, that clip so many times.

[B]

We can never put that out.

[C]

And I have. I literally said to Julie, she said, stop, people can hear because we're on the plane. And she goes, people. I said, I don't care. And it was the. I think it's one of the funniest things you have ever done. But I think the reason that it's so funny is it's so historically correct.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Everything about it was so real. And I'm like, this kid has such magic and I think he's finally starting to step into it. You're finally starting to feel it yourself. And that's all I ever wanted for you. I used to say to you so many times, I would say, son, why can't you see what I see? Do you remember me saying that? Do you? How many times?

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And you would say, but, dad, I don't see that. And I would be so brokenhearted when you would say, I don't see that. And I'm like, how is it possible? Because everyone knew you were magic. And so I look now and I think to be able to see you clean and sober and, you know, your hair cut properly and your skin care being what it's supposed to be, and you're dressed the right way, you're. To see a child step back into the way that a parent raised that child and wanted that child to become is such a great. It's one of the greatest moments that a parent will ever have is to know that they got to live long enough to see the fruits of their labor and all the prayers. Because you are proof that prayer works.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Because I had already in my mind to. To self medicate my, you know, myself was that I'm going to have to bury him. I don't know where this weakness comes from with my boys, that they think that it's drugs and alcohol is going to be the thing.

[B]

You think it's a weakness? It's not a weakness.

[C]

I think it's not a weakness. A weakness because I have never had that problem and I've never turned to anything other than to fix my problem.

[B]

But you have turned to things. Things they just weren't. Drugs or alcohol.

[C]

Do not bring Neiman Marcus or Saks Fifth Avenue or any of those people up into this.

[B]

But I'm just saying, like you do. You did have or you do you have other outlets that are not.

[C]

Well, I think it was the controlling. The control was certainly the biggest outlet that is.

[B]

That's just as dangerous for you as drinking or drugs. Like, I think you could. Like the way that you worried you could have had a stroke at any minute.

[C]

Do you know that, Grayson? Because, you know, we were in the Caymans this week and don't be enjoyed. He's not bitter that he wasn't there. Grayson shows me this. He goes. He comes running into my bedroom. He goes, dad, this is so you. This is so you. And he jumps on the bed and it's this clip and it's this young kid, and he's got it mirrored split screen, where he's doing the same thing that you were doing, you know, up with being Savannah and whatever. And he goes, son, do not go over to this neighborhood that we've never been in and that we don't know any. And we don't know any of the people that live there because there was just a murder there. And there was. And they were stabbed 17 times. You don't know. You probably don't know how to get there, because we've never been. But don't go over there, because I just saw this on the news. Hey, I just saw that there was an earthquake over in Guam. You cannot go out tonight. And it was like him giving all the worst case scenarios, and Grayson was like laying there dying. Daddy, this is you.

[B]

But Grayson didn't even experience you.

[C]

No, because I think that.

[B]

I think it's full mode.

[C]

I think that the. A lot of healing took place over the course of. From Lindsay to Kyle to you to Savannah, then to Grayson and certainly now with Chloe.

[B]

Yeah. Because Chloe talks shit right back to you.

[C]

Chloe didn't talk back to me. Chloe is. I allow her to express how she feels.

[B]

I said, chloe, you think. You think. Who do you think gets treated the worst in this family? She goes, chase, we know it's you.

[C]

She comes to salesman. She goes, drama's coming over. And I said, what? And she said, drama. Chase is coming. And I said, chloe, shut the hell up. Where do you come up with this? And then the other day, she said, you were. You were packing to move into your house. And she goes, chase, thinking somebody's gonna be crying because he's leaving. He wants everybody sad, everybody crying. And I said, what'd you say to her? She goes, I ain't saying nothing because I ain't helping. Maybe she was not getting there helping. She was.

[B]

It's so it is so messed up that, like, nobody will help me move. Nobody helped me move. I help everybody move. We were out of the country intentionally, you dumb bitch.

[C]

It's not true.

[B]

Moving's not done. You can still come help.

[C]

No. Anything I do for you will be delivered. I'm not loading anything. I don't have to do that.

[B]

Yo, you did that for Savannah.

[C]

That's my daughter.

[B]

Yeah, exactly. I help everybody with. They all want to talk about me. When something needs to be moved, Chase is there, and I don't know why.

[C]

Because you can't lift. I mean, literally.

[B]

How about.

[C]

Let's talk about the move.

[B]

How about I lift you up and put you through.

[C]

Let's talk about the move of Savannah because, I mean, I'm gonna allow myself to be embarrassed with this.

[B]

It was. Okay. So I've moved so many times, and I've moved so helped move so many people and moved my family so many times that it's just of. Anytime a move comes up, it's very triggering. It's very traumatic.

[C]

Work has been triggering for.

[B]

You know the word work. I love to work. I.

[C]

But not always. Not always.

[A]

No.

[B]

Always.

[C]

Always.

[B]

Now I don't now I like to work. I was not getting paid for that work.

[C]

You get paid every time you do something good is. See, that right there is karma. Your damn mic's falling, cuz.

[B]

The lie was no. Because you didn't pay your bill.

[C]

N. My bill's paid, But. So Savannah calls and says, dad, I need for you. And chasing. They've heard. It's hurt enough of your. You burn it up.

[B]

It's like, put a few of your.

[A]

No, I'm just kidding.

[B]

No.

[C]

But Savannah called and said, dad, which Grayson's a little slimy with this because Grayson comes. She had already told Grayson he was coming home to help move her racks of clothes because she was putting everything on racks so they could be taken to her new house to where they would not get messed up.

[B]

Okay, let me take it from here. I've moved everybody in our family. Always helped. Never get a thank you.

[C]

Lies.

[B]

Always get bitched at for something while I'm helping, giving up my time for free.

[C]

Kind of like I was giving up cars and houses and clothes, but go ahead. Go ahead. I get what you're saying. Go ahead.

[B]

You gave my car away, so shut up.

[C]

I shouldn't have to buy you a car at this age.

[B]

You should. It's you, dad. Let's not even break that whole situation down, because I could really you sideways.

[C]

You can.

[B]

I can I'll make you feel like you did. Anyways, so I moved everyone. I. I go, I move all of Savannah's stuff into the back of this U.

[C]

Not all of could not. She still had to get a moving company to come after we had finished.

[B]

After. After I finished two massive truckloads. And she goes, oh, I don't have

[C]

that many clothes, which everybody knows that. That's a lie, dude.

[B]

She has an entire, what, two car garage.

[C]

She. Her garage has still her clothes. The majority 95 is still on garment racks.

[B]

In her garage.

[C]

In her garage.

[B]

Takes up the whole garage.

[C]

Yes. Wall to wall.

[B]

And we're putting all these racks in the U haul. And I said I grabbed the strap to strap them in because everybody knows they have wheels. Even though you lock them. They could move. They're top heavy. They could fall. My dad, Expert shows up 45 minutes late, didn't help load it, and then goes, oh, you guys are idiots. You guys are just so dumb. Those things are not going anywhere. I was like, okay. I was like, yes, they will.

[C]

So he listened to the.

[B]

He goes, put. Put the damn rope. Put the damn rope down.

[C]

It was hot.

[B]

It's a cable. Put the damn rope down. Get in the truck. The shit's not gonna move. Yeah, okay. My mom goes to go pull the rope off, pops it off, and it. It slingshots back, cuts my calf open. Then they're all laughing, like, it's just so funny. It's really not funny. My legs over here bleeding. And then my dad's like, get in the truck. Get in the truck. Like, I worked for them.

[C]

You did. You were there to work.

[B]

I didn't get paid. And then you got paid. No. And, yeah, with what?

[C]

And then your sister gave you furniture.

[B]

Listen, I would have gladly went and spent the money.

[C]

You didn't. So acknowledge. Give her credit what she gave.

[B]

This is about you, so shut up.

[C]

It's not.

[B]

We get there. This is the man. Oh, y' all are stupid. Y' all are dumb. Y' all don't know. Those are not gonna fall over. We open up the back of that truck.

[C]

They fell over.

[B]

Every one of them had fallen over every rack.

[C]

Well, and folks, if I get hot, everything has to stop because I'm just not doing heat. And. And you can ask the bureau of prisons that, because when the heat. When the air went out, my daughter, she went on the news. But at any rate, God forbid, I don't know anything. I just know that Savannah has. Has bought a beautiful home. I don't know all of the damn security that she's had put in. I mean, if. Fort Knox.

[B]

Yes. Venice security system is next level. It will. It'll scream at you if you're. If you're in the driveway and tell you what clothes you're wearing and tell you to get off or you're going to.

[C]

Who's ever heard as such. I'm getting this. These racks. Rolling them down the ramp, chases on one end. And I hear, leave now. You and the white shorts and black shirt with the garment rack. Leave now. I'm calling the police.

[B]

And my dad is so dumb and so out of touch that he doesn't realize that it is AI talking to him. He thinks it's the neighbor. So he walks around and he goes, what'd you say?

[C]

I didn't. I thought it was the neighbor next door.

[B]

So my dad.

[C]

Because I had seen him come out of his garage and look to see what we were doing. Logically, if you hear someone yelling at you, five seconds later, you think it's him. Okay, but you were ready to beat

[B]

Savannah's neighbor's ass, and she hasn't even moved in yet. Like, that's.

[C]

Yeah, because you're overstepping your boundaries. And so when they. I let it the first time that it happened, I look at you and I said, I'm getting ready to lose my. I'm hot. He needs to mind his own damn business. So we get that rack off. We go back to get the other rack. You, white shorts, black shirt. The police have been called. Leave now. I said, you

[B]

healthy and. But he's made.

[C]

And I'm standing here waiting on him to come out of his garage.

[B]

And meanwhile, was the camera in the corner talking to him the whole time?

[C]

I don't know this. And you say it.

[B]

I knew the whole time. I was just laughing.

[C]

Why would you do that?

[B]

Because, God, you look so dumb. And there's rare moments that I get to enjoy that. So I had to ride with it.

[C]

I'm like, I'm. I said, you notice he's ever hiding saying this?

[B]

Yeah, he's hiding. And he's like, yeah, he's hiding. He don't want to smoke with you.

[C]

Yeah. He's like, talking this up. And I said, I don't give a. Let him say something else. I'm gonna walk over to his garage. We go, that third rack here. I said, cam, I let the damn rack go. He goes, daddy, it's the camera. Look, look, it's the camera. I said, it ain't the damn camera talking. And he Said, daddy, it's AI. I called Savannah. I said, does your camera security system talk? And she said, yes, sir. I said, oh, my God. I was getting ready to fist fight the neighbor next door because I thought he was being a smart old man.

[B]

This poor old man is mine.

[C]

Old. He was my age.

[B]

This poor old man was just minding his own business, trying to park his car, gonna get his ass beat over AI.

[C]

So we had that experience. And then, of course, you use the excuse, oh, I've got an appointment to look at this house, and I need to go, and it's only going to take me, like, 45 minutes. Four hours. Four hours. And then he causes. Oh, I looked at this one, but this. My agent just told me about this other one. And Judith, Savannah gets on the phone because, again, they all want what they want when they want it. So Savannah goes on chase, where are you?

[B]

No, no, I. I was there because I rode with you there.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

So I drove the Escalade, and they got mad at me.

[C]

I didn't.

[B]

I didn't give a shit that my mom or all of y' all got mad at me. I had told everybody that I had made these appointments to look at these houses, and everyone knew that before I was even asked to help move. So I left in the Escalade. Mama's just. Just. Mama's just. Oh, God. Leaves her the keys to the other Escalade in the car. And I'm getting screamed at to leave an appointment early so we can have an Escalade there to transport Savannah's Birkins. Get the fuck out of my life. Off my phone. I'm trying to find a place to live, and you're worried about me bringing a vehicle when there's three other ones there to transport your purses?

[C]

Well, it's a whole issue with her in these bags because they all have names and they all have pillows.

[B]

That's called. That's a mental. Something's wrong. Mentally. There's these.

[C]

These are pillows that these bags sit up. Yeah. So that they don't.

[B]

You guys are idiots.

[C]

I don't. Didn't even know she did this.

[B]

That's off the rocker.

[C]

I walked in that room, and literally, these glass cases were everywhere, and it was nothing but bags. I knew she had a lot of bags, but I didn't know that her bag collection had expanded that much. And then she starts breaking out. The bags are the pillows that the Birkins go on and all that. This, that, and the other.

[B]

I'm like, you're talking about A pillow for a handbag.

[C]

Yeah, I know.

[B]

We just lost 99 of our audience.

[C]

You lost me.

[B]

You lost me.

[C]

When I walked in and saw that and I heard that, I'm like, huh? And then she's got all folks. She had a hundred pairs of shoes out in the middle of the floor. And the people that were there, I said, said, what is all this for? And the girl said, I think she's giving all that away. And these were heels that were a lot of money, and several of them had price tags on it that she had never wore.

[B]

I told her that. I said, savannah, don't go back to that damn mall. I said, because half that, you got 90 of that, that's in those hangers in the. In your garage. All right?

[C]

So I'm looking at all these shoes and I'm like. I said, what are you going to do with it? She said, I'm just going to keep. Donate them or do something. Give. I said, oh, no, you're not. No, you're not. Those are going to my friend and her girls in South Carolina.

[B]

Dad, that was for you on Thursday nights.

[C]

No, she. Her feet are bigger than mine. But the Savannah. I did not know this, but Savannah wears, like, a size 8 heel.

[B]

You're not a size 8.

[C]

I'm a 10, bro.

[B]

You just said that Savannah foot's bigger than.

[C]

Was a joke.

[B]

Clearly not one that landed well.

[C]

Clearly it didn't. Because you're, like, invested in this.

[B]

I think it's funny. I think it's great. You just dogged yourself out. Keep doing that. Self deprecation really works.

[C]

I got you. Okay, so at any rate, I. And I go in there, get a box, and start putting all these shoes and stuff in there that have rarely been worn, some had never, some lightly. And I said, what about these? No. What about the. Yes, I remember when I got those. And it's like in her mind, she's got a special memory tied to a certain shoe or a certain bag or whatever. If it's a happy memory, she kept it. If it was a bad memory, like a court look that she had to go to court for, she kept no court looks.

[B]

She got too much money.

[C]

She kept no court looks. So I boxed all that stuff up, sent all that stuff to my best friend Stephanie and her girl.

[B]

So you did. You were over there helping her. Have you come and helped me?

[C]

Yeah, I did.

[B]

No, you. No, you didn't. You walked. You went and saw it when it. Before I got it, and that was it.

[C]

But there was not a need for me to do anything else, I was giving you stuff.

[B]

Sometimes you have to give me your heart.

[C]

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