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We are back for another week and it is my favorite day of the week I get to spend with you guys. I love my job, I love what I do, and I'm really looking forward to all of the ways that the Lord is going to move in today's episode. It's so funny. I was just spending time with Jesus, just praying over this episode and I got so weepy. I was like, wait, Lord, we can't do this right now because I just did my makeup. So I'm like on the floor, my face is down. I'm like trying to let my tears just kind of fall to the floor, you know, I don't know if you girlies know that trick where like, if you're getting emotional and it's like just a bad time and you just tilt your head down and let your tears just fall straight to the ground instead of it going down your face. If you don't know that trick, you're welcome anyway. And I don't even really understand why it was happening, but I have a really good feeling that today's topic is one that a lot of you guys need to hear. And I actually pray that in talking about this and processing through this specific thing, it will actually end up giving you guys more freedom. If this is an area that has been hard for you. Yeah, I'm excited. I'm looking forward to it. I'm looking forward to how this honestly pans out. Because shocker, as it always goes, I'm like, I don't know. Holy spirit, it's your show move me doing this Podcast is literally that one script, like, epitome of that one scripture. It's Matthew 10, 19, 20, and it says, do not worry about what to say or how to say it. At that time, you will be given what to say, for it will not be you speaking, but the spirit of your father speaking through you. That is literally Christ with coffee on ice summed up in one scripture. Truly, that is how I feel like 99% of the time is I'm like, okay, God, do your thing. What do you want your people to know? And so I am really excited to see how he moves today. But before we get into it, we do obviously have our Christ. We have our word of God here. And so I would encourage you guys to also grab your Bibles, because we will be referring back to scripture. These are the receipts that we will always provide. I never want to be the kind of person that gets on the Internet and preaches the gospel and says, just trust me. Your trust should not be in anything other than God, Word of God, Holy Spirit, Jesus. And that goes for me, too. Okay? So the thing we put our trust in is, is the Lord and the Word of God. And so today's episode will be anchored in scripture. Love that. Thank you, Jesus, for the Bible. And then secondly, we do have our coffee on ice in our cutesy little glass tumbler. I have my coffee with almond milk, and it's gorgeous and amazing, and it's just what I needed right now. So praise God. All right, you guys. So today I would love to talk about grace, and specifically grace within the church. And it's so funny, because when I was talking to the Lord today about what we would talk about, a simple kind of phrase or, like, sentence came to my mind where it was like, expectations within the church. Like, talk about how our expectations when it comes to other Christians are sometimes a bit unfair. And I feel like it's really easy for us in most cases. I would imagine it's pretty easy for us to give grace to people who are in the world, people who are not within the church, within the body, Right? People who are not saved by Jesus or they haven't accepted Jesus as their Lord and Savior. So it's like, a lot of us can really have so much grace for people like that because it's like, oh, my gosh, they're so lost. Like, they're so broken. Their lives are not anchored in the truth of who they've been created by and created for. And so it's a lot easier to. To extend that kind of compassion. To people who are not within the body. But sometimes I find that we don't extend the same grace to people who are within the church. And there's a part of that that is so understandable, because ultimately, I think our brains can go to a place of, like, okay, honestly, like, these people should know better. They do know better because they. They call themselves a Christian, and they say that they love God with all of their heart, but they definitely don't act like it. And so I think it's a lot easier for us to, like, kind of cut people out when they are within the body, because you're like, well, they know better. Those people out there who don't know Jesus, like, I get it, but these people over here, there's no excuse for that. Like, they should know better. And in a lot of cases, they do, because it's like, if you're within the body, you know how you're supposed to act, you know. You know, in the ways that we are called to be different and set apart. And so I think what I would really like to speak on today is how it's actually not different, the amount of grace that we are supposed to give to people who don't know Jesus, to people who are within the church, while also obviously holding people accountable. It doesn't mean that accountability flies out the window, that we're not supposed to call each other higher. Like, extending grace to people within the church does not exclude accountability. But there is no difference in the amount of grace that we are supposed to be giving people within the church versus out of the church. And I actually think that the reason that this topic came to my mind is because yesterday I was having a conversation with a friend who was having a conversation with a woman who said that she identifies as somebody who is spiritual and was a Christian, tried to be Christian before, but does not identify as a Christian anymore, and is not interested in Christianity because she was hurt by a Christian. And in my mind, I heard that, and I was like, what? Wow, like, you were hurt by one. And honestly, I don't know to what depths. Right. I don't know this woman. I was not having the conversation with her directly. So there's a part of it where I'm like, I don't know the details of what this means, but I was kind of shocked that it. All it took really was, like, one person treating her poorly who claimed to have been a Christian to be like, nope, don't want anything to do with the entire body of it. I don't want anything to do with the entire religion of it. I. I don't want anything to do with Jesus because of it, because of how one person treated her. And in my mind, I was like, that's crazy that that's all it took for her to be like, nope, I want nothing to do with it. Sorry. I had a bad experience with a Christian, and I'm just spiritual. And it really got me to thinking about the standard that we hold Christians at. And what even got us to the topic of this friend sharing, this conversation, this interaction that she had with this other woman. What even got us to that part was I said something where I was sharing because, like, there have been some things that have been coming out in the church about certain individuals. And also I'm just like, whatever. That's, like, not new, right? Like, there's a new scandal all the time, unfortunately, within the church, right? About leaders and people of power and influence. And it's just an unfortunate part of being a Christian is, like, in the church, outside of the church, like, we are all so, so, so broken. And I think the longer that I've been a Christian, the more I've realized, like, genuinely how broken the church is. And I don't know why that was so shocking to me in the beginning. I think maybe I also could have been guilty of, like, maybe putting Christians on some type of pedestal in my mind in the beginning, when I first started walking with Jesus, was being like, oh, my gosh, these people are am. This is so much better than the people I was interacting with and having relationships with in the world, Right? People who weren't rooted in Christ. And yes, there is truth to that. Like, I will say that my relationships with people within the body, people who are Christians, are much healthier than the relationships I was trying to have in the world. That is true. But I think an unrealistic expectation that I had, which honestly just comes from experience, like, the more you walk with people, the more you see their flaws, you know? And so I think after a couple years of walking with Jesus and walking with other people who walk with Jesus, I realized, oh, yeah, these people are capable of hurting me too, you know? And the truth is, is like recognizing that people within the body are not Jesus. Yes, it is our mission and our goal in life to be his hands and feet. Yes, we are to be led by Jesus and for him to be our shepherd and to be as Christlike as we can. But the other truth to that is the reason Jesus had to die for us was because of how imperfect we are. And so something that I had realized pretty quickly is that the church is not Jesus himself. I think that if we are going to be in community and we are going to be Christians and we are going to also walk with other Christians, we have to acknowledge that people fail, but Jesus doesn't. When we mix up the two, expecting the church to be flawless like Christ, we set ourselves up for disappointment. A truth that we need to anchor ourselves in is having our faith in Jesus himself and not in the works of humans, not in human behavior. And I think a simple indication on whether you're putting your faith in human behavior versus just Jesus himself is if people within the church let you down, hurt you, burn you, backstab you, cheat on you, like, whatever that looks like. Those are all awful things. Awful. But like, if when those very things happen and you're contemplating your entire faith, you're contemplating Jesus himself, you're contemplating whether you even want to follow Jesus anymore. I want to say that I. I mean, I have so much compassion for those feelings and I think I would feel the same way. I would feel the same way. I'd be like, lord, no offense, but why? Who even are you? How did I get here? How could you allow this to happen? Who are these people? I feel like I've never actually known them. Like, that's all real. And so I'm not invalidating that. I think that that would also be parts of my processing as well, is if, if I was in a situation like that, I'd be like, jesus, who even are you? 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And so let's just either establish our expectations right off the get go if you are new here, or re establish our expectations if you've already been walking with Jesus and you're like contemplating why you're even a part of the body of Christ. When these people are doing this and these people are failing you in this way and you see the way these people are clearly messing up in these ways. We need to remember that people will fail us from time to time, but Jesus will never fail us. Rooting our faith in Christ, not the body of Christ. Hebrews 12:2 reads, Fixing our eyes on Jesus, the author and perfecter of faith. He is the author. He is the perfecter of faith. He is the one that never fails. It is kind of a cheesy like Pinterest Christian Bible quote to be like, people fail us, but Jesus never does. But it's true. And so even when people fail us, even when people disappoint us, the first thing we need to do is run to Jesus. Run, sprint to his feet, because he is the perfecter of our faith. Another thing to remember about other members of the church is that we are all still in process and we will forever be until the day we die. There is no we've made it like finish line. And that's not to discourage anybody. If anything that should like bring relief and be like, oh, there is no like final destination of like completion here on earth. We are all forever in a process with Jesus. Sanctification is a journey. It's not instant perfection. And we don't arrive. I'm putting air quotes around arrive just because we're at church, we haven't arrived. Once we've hit a certain amount of years of walking with Jesus, we all stumble. We will all stumble. And so grace is a non negotiable in God's eyes. It says it in the Bible. Is it in Matthew? We've quoted it a few times. I should know it by now. Okay, I found it, guys. It's in Matthew 18, chapter 18, verse 21. And it's Peter talking to Jesus. Okay. And Peter's kind of peed. All right, Peter is peed. He's a little irritated and he's like, all right, Jesus, no offense, but like, how often should I forgive someone who sins against me? Like seven times, right? And then, and then, and then they don't get Any more chances, right? To actually quote the scripture. That was like, that was ali translation. Okay, this is what the scripture actually says. It says, then Peter came to him and asked the Lord, how often should I forgive someone who sins against me? Seven times. And Jesus replies to him, saying, no, not seven times, Jesus replied, but seventy times seven. Therefore, the kingdom of heaven can be compared to a king who decided to bring his accounts up to date with servants who had borrowed money from him. In the process, one of his debtors was brought in who owed him millions of dollars. He couldn't pay, so his master ordered that he be sold, along with his wife, his children, and everything he owned to pay the debt. But the man fell down before his master and begged him, please be patient with me and I will pay it all. Then his master was filled with pity for him and he released him and forgave his debt. But when the man left the king, he went to a fellow servant who owed him a few thousand dollars. He grabbed him by the throat and demanded instant payment. His fellow servant fell down before him and begged for a little more time. Be patient with me and I will pay it, he pleaded. But his creditor wouldn't wait. He had the man arrested and put in prison until the debt could be paid in full. When some of the other servants saw this, they were very upset. They went to the king and told him everything that had happened. Then the king called in the man he had forgiven and said, you evil servant, I forgave you that tremendous debt because you pleaded with me. Shouldn't you have mercy on your fellow servant, just as I had mercy on you? Then the angry king sent the man to prison to be tortured until he had paid his entire debt. That's what my heavenly Father will do to you if you refuse to forgive your brothers and sisters from your heart. Yeesh, if the fear of the Lord doesn't fall on you after reading that. So this passage summarized, if you guys would like a little sparks, note version. Or if you're still kind of like, yeah, I get it, but like, I don't get it. This passage highlights the nature of divine mercy and the ethical demand for us to mirror it. So Peter's question assumes forgiveness has limits. But Jesus emphasizes unlimited forgiveness. The parable illustrates the massive gap between our sin debt to God immeasurably forgiven, and the smaller offenses we hold against each other. The unmerciful servant's failure to extend forgiveness reveals a lack of understanding of grace. Theologically, it underscores that forgiven people must become forgiving people if we truly grasp the immensity of God's mercy, we'll extend it to others. The final warning is sobering. Refusing to forgive others jeopardizes our experience of God's forgiveness not as a loss of salvation, but as a break in fellowship with God. God is truly telling us in this scripture that one of the most important things that we should be doing for one another is forgiving each other. Because if we are to freely receive the forgiveness of God, we are also expected to extend that same forgiveness. And the truth is, is that if we aren't willing to give that same forgiveness and extend it to not only people who are outside the church. Right? Because like I said, it's really easy to extend grace to people who don't know Jesus because we can go, ah, but they don't know Jesus. I mean, even in this scripture, Peter is talking about his brothers and sisters, which is probably implying other people within the body. So he's like, okay, to my brothers and sisters. And so in this scripture, it's like, yeah, Jesus is like, yeah, your brothers and sisters infinitely. Like, there is no limit to grace because there was no limit to my grace for you. And so there are real consequences to us not being willing to extend grace to one another in the same way that Jesus extends grace to us. And it's not that God revokes our salvation. That's not what the scripture is saying. But it will put a break in fellowship with God. It will put a wedge between you and God, because the truth is, is like, how are we to walk in fellowship with God if we are not willing to reflect every part of who he is as well? Like, how can we walk fully in fellowship with God and be like, yeah, God, I want to reflect these parts of you, but like, these other parts, I don't want to. I don't know how you can fully connect with God if you're putting limits on how much you actually want to reflect Him. And so in this parable, a servant who owed a massive debt begged his master for mercy, and the master forgave the entire debt. But then that same servant was asked by somebody else for forgiveness, but he refused to extend that same forgiveness to a smaller debt owed to him by another. So the Master who had originally forgave him of his massive debt, by the way, the Master being Jesus, forgiving us of our massive debt, which is the sins of our entire life, and then us not being willing to forgive somebody for a much smaller debt, that master was like, bro, how could you not be willing to forgive when I honestly relieved you from the biggest debt that you probably couldn't have ever gotten yourself out of. 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And I think the next step in that would just be to seek trusted community, whether it's a mentor, a pastor, or a wise friend, somebody who can really listen to you and you would trust them with those things and somebody who can pray with you. Healthy processing can also involve counseling or guidance from someone trained. And so I think those would be the first steps of really processing your hurt, which you have to being brutally honest with God about the pain that you're feeling. It's funny how much this is actually reflecting quite a theme we've been having on the podcast lately of just like, forgiveness and praying for the people who hurt us. But that would be the next step, praying for the person who hurt you, which actually does end up softening your heart. We talked about that a lot a couple episodes ago. And lastly, staying rooted in God honestly is just keeping your eyes on scripture. This is the very thing that will ground us in truth. When our emotions are just kind of everywhere, it's valid. Like, the things that we're feeling and hurt are valid. But also we should not trust our emotions alone. So scripture and staying rooted in the word of God will be your survival in hurt. Okay, that was a little off topic. We're gonna get back onto the main message of today. I. I guess I just wanted to clarify. I just. I wouldn't want to tell you guys, like, okay, go ahead and process your hurt, seek healing, and stay rooted in God. And, like, not also be like, okay, but how do I do that? So that was a very, very brief overview of how you could start. But I think another point to be made in all of this is that when things like this happen in the body, it is also a really great opportunity to be a part of the solution. So I think a lot of times, like, we can kind of get caught up in the doom and gloom of, like, how could this happen? This is such an abomination. This is so disappointing. It shouldn't be like this. This is blasphemy. You know, and as. As true as maybe some of those statements could be, it's really easy to, like, get caught up in the swirl of negativity and like, oh, my gosh, doom and gloom. And how could this happen? Instead of also looking at it as an opportunity to be a part of the solution. Because the truth is, is like, when things like that come to the light, it was all a part of God's plan. Not saying God was the one who caused the sin in the person. Right? Because it's. It's in our sinful nature. We make the choice to go against God, we make the choice to sin. It's the nature that's within us, and we're just gonna mess up and people are going to make mistakes. And so it's not that God caused it, but it being brought to the light was God. Because it says in his scripture that anything done in the dark will be brought to the light. And he makes it very clear in his word that if we are living in secret or if we are being sus. Or doing things we're not supposed to do, the Lord is like, okay, well, just so you know, I am the judge, and you won't get away with that stuff forever. He brings things to a light for a reason. And I think one of the reasons is so that the rest of the body could use it as an opportunity to be the solution. But also it's an opportunity for God to receive more glory and for that very evil thing to be used for the glory of God and for good. It actually reminds me of a scripture that's found in Genesis. It's. It's Genesis 50:20 where Joseph is talking to his brothers, and it says, you intended to harm me, but God intended it for good to accomplish what is now being done, the saving of many lives. And so what that scripture is saying is, like, yeah, okay, what the devil meant for evil, what he meant for harm, God is actually going to use to accomplish what is now being done, which is the saving of many lives. God uses what was made to harm, and he flips it around and uses it for his glory and actually uses it for good. And so I think something that we need to remember as Christians is like, yeah, when things come out, even in, like, the public, like, even when it's public things, okay, we don't even have to just talk about people who are personally sinning against you and hurting you. But it's like we see things that happen in the church as well, and it's, like, super discouraging. That was honestly my POV a little bit when entering this topic, because I'm like, wow, God, we're actually, like, wildly broken. And, like, the church is not looking good right now, and people are really messing up. But the truth is, like, that's never changed. There is nothing new under the sun. That has always happened within the body of Christ. This isn't like a new thing. It's like. Like, there's always just going to be scandals and there's going to be people who lie and mess up, and that's just the truth. So, like, that's not new news. But even when we see things like that, like, we could really probably be like, God, this is it. We're screwed. Christianity, we're not very good at it. But the truth is, is, like, we could actually see that, though, and be like, all right, so God, how do you want to use this for your glory? Because you' allowed this, you revealed it. You've brought it to the light for a reason. And it's not just to discourage the body. I think it's also like a lens of encouraging the body to be a part of the solution. Standing in faith and knowing, like, okay, God, you're gonna have to use, like, this has to end up being good. Even though it's, like, really bad and evil and not okay, it has to be used for good. Because that's what you say in your words, that everything that was meant to be harmful, God actually uses it for good to accomplish what is being done, which is his will. So when we see hypocrisy or failure, instead of walking away, we can be a part of making the church healthier through love, honesty, and accountability. And so I think, again, in a really cheesy way, but, like, hopefully this isn't cheesy. I think it's true. Like when we say, see things that happen in the church, we're going to go, okay, then we're really going to lean in on love. We're going to really lean in on honesty. We're going to really lean in on accountability. We're going to really lean in on community. And like not being that, but choosing the opposite and saying, okay, this is what's happening in the church. That sucks. I don't like that. Wish that wasn't happening, God. But you know what? We're going to be the example. We're going to be a part of the solution and we're going to repay evil with love, right? We're going to repay the very things of what people have done to us, done to others, and we're going to repay it with blessings. 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I don't know what you've been through, I don't know to the depths of the betrayal and the hurt that you have gone through with people who are in the church. So I will not speak on that as if I have any idea what it was like to go through that. But the truth is, is community is not optional. Christianity is communal at its core. We need one another. It's not a coincidence that Jesus refers to us as the body and he is the head of the body. He would not say that we are to work together as a body if we weren't called to be together in community. God has a heart for unity. And what does the devil have a heart for? He wants separation. He wants isolation. Why would the enemy try so hard to isolate us, to separate us, to divide humanity? This is, this even goes outside of the church. Because the truth is, is like, we as humans were made for God and for each other. We were made to be in community with God and one another, to first love God with all of our heart, mind and soul, and to love others as we love ourselves. That's what we were made for. And so even when we're looking at the world, it's like, not a surprise at how divided we are. Why? Because that is what the devil wants. He doesn't want any unity. He wants broken families. He wants broken communities. He wants wars. He wants us to villainize each other. He wants us to kill each other. He wants division. And anything that the devil wants is because it's opposite of what God has created us for, which is unity, which is community. So community is not an option. And if you have believed that you are just supposed to be like, isolated in your bubble with God, like, there's two ways that you could go about this after church hurt is you could be like, okay, I don't want anything to do with God anymore. To be honest, this sucks. Or, okay, God, I love you, but like, I can't do people, so I'm just gonna walk with you alone. You're believing a lie from the enemy. You're. You're double minded. You love God, but you won't love people. Well, God, I receive Your forgiveness. I love you and I really like what we have going on, Jesus. Like, I love walking with you. You're my best friend. Like, I'm obsessed with you. And like, I, I believe you died on the cross for me. Thank you for saving my life. But like, I can't with people. I've been too hurt by them. But Jesus is like, yeah, but babe, I died for them and it is not fair to walk in community with me. I love you. I'm not revoking your salvation, okay? I'm not saying that, like, because you won't forgive these people, you won't be able to go to heaven and live with me forever. Like, I love you. But you do have to understand that that is going to cause a wedge between us because I'm also loyal to people and I know that they hurt you and it's not okay. Jesus is never going to invalidate what happened to you as like, sorry, you're overreacting. It's not okay. He'll deal with that. But like, it doesn't work. That's double mindedness. Jesus does not say okay and, and like, by yourself, walk with me. It's like Jesus had a dis. Had a group of buddies. He had his disciples, 12 as a group. For three years they walked together. God refers to himself as our shepherd. It's not like one shepherd per sheep. We are to be in community. It is not biblical to not be in community. So even when it's messy, isolation is not the solution. It's not the solution to be by yourself. And the truth is, is it's probably going to be really, really scary and very, very vulnerable to put yourself back out there again in community. If it's been a while since you've been in it because of all the hurt you've endured. Like, no one's saying that it's going to be easy. You're probably going to get triggered. You're probably going to really struggle with trusting people again. And guess what? That's going to produce in you that is going to produce such incredible fruit in you of trust in the Lord and faith in him and then also restoring your relationship with the body of Christ. So as dangerous as it feels, sometimes fear can be like, ah, that's irresponsible though, because the last time you were over there, you got hurt. I think the truth is it's like reevaluating our expectations and being like, yeah, people are probably gonna hurt me, but you know what? I have to do this because this is what God calls me. To do. He calls me to be in community, to be a part of the body. It's gonna suck at first, probably. It's going to be so vulnerable. You're not going to want to do it. But it's going to produce so much good in you. It's going to strengthen your relationship with Jesus more than you ever could have if you just walked with him alone. I'm telling you, when we step out in the things that are so freaking scary, when we step out in the ways of, like, okay, well, the last time I was here, God, it didn't go very well. Like, I'm going to need you to survive because I can't do this without you. It is going to produce fruit in you that you could have never produced had you continued to walk with Jesus alone. It's actually in the body. It's in community, where we grow the most in our faith. You'd think that if you just, like, were grinding with Jesus and just put your face to your Bible and spent a lot of time in the secret place and a lot of time alone, that you would get there faster because you're like, what do you mean? It's just me and God, like, direct. Me and him, nobody else. But there's a scripture that says that iron sharpens iron. And so I actually think the best way that we become sharp, the ways that we grow the most in our faith, is not only just walking with Jesus, but it's like, especially also in community. That is where we grow. That is where we heal, and that is where we reflect the body of Christ. And so I think a good way to wrap this episode also is for all of us to just feel encouraged to walk a little bit more in humility and to lower the pedestal of which we've put Christians on. When we see each other as fellow travelers, humble, broken, but redeemed, it's easier to forgive, support, and love. Ephesians 4:32 says, Be kind and compassionate to one another, forgiving each other. Just as in Christ, God forgave you. I know that this episode was filled with a lot of hard truths, and you may even be sitting with, like, okay, God, I'm sorry. I'm still feeling deeply, deeply hurt and betrayed by people in the church. And I don't know how I'm ever gonna get there. I think that that is your first step of getting to a good place of being brutally honest with God as you process the pain. Pain like that is you beginning your journey of processing the pain and being like, okay, God, I don't I don't know how I'm gonna do that. Like, being brutally honest is not just about, you know, being honest about what happened to you and how it hurt you so deeply. It's also being brutally honest with God about how in the world you're even gonna get to a place of forgiveness or trusting anybody ever again. Because that's real. It's not an overnight thing. It will be a process. If this is something you've been struggling with, I have so much faith that you will get to that place. I promise. And I can promise you that, because there's actually no other reason that this episode happened today. If it wasn't for God saying, I know that you can get to that place. And this is actually what I want for you. Believe it or not, this is, like, the life that I want to have for you. I want to help you overcome this. God wants to redeem this part of your story, this part of your story that feels really messed up and, like, truly is, like, making you question whether Christianity is, like, the answer. He wants to redeem that for you if you let him. And the first step is acknowledging all the raw, ugly, real parts of what you're feeling. And so I would love to end this episode by just praying for you. I have so much faith for you that this will be a part of your story. We're going to say, and. And God redeemed it all. And honestly, I go through it all over again because of who I've become on the other side of this, the fruit that it's produced in me, and the way that I actually love people better because of what I had to go through, I just know it. I believe in that so deeply for you. And so, Jesus, God, I thank you for this episode today, Lord, and I just lift up my friend on the other side of this podcast. Jesus, I thank you for their life. God, I thank you that even in this time that is so trying, you have not left their side. Lord, I thank you that you are not angry with them for the ways that they have doubted you in this, maybe even doubted your existence, doubted the legitimacy of who you are, doubted the legitimacy of what Christianity even is. Lord, I thank you that they probably feel like a lot of the thoughts that have gone through their mind in this hurt of trying to understand how this could happen has probably felt blasphemous. But you are not angry with them. You have compassion for them and love for them. And so, God, I thank you that you are right by their side. It actually says in Your scripture that you are near to the brokenhearted. And so, God, I ask for your comfort right now. Holy Spirit, I pray that you fall right now on my friend Jesus that you comfort them. I pray the peace of God that surpasses all understanding over them from the top of their head to the very bottom of their feet. Jesus, I pray that your peace washes over them like refreshing water. And, Lord, I pray through the process of them trusting again, being in community again, learning how to have grace and forgiveness for people when honestly they simply just don't know how. God, if that's where they're at, Lord, I'm asking that you provide the things that they lack. Lord, I thank you that it is in our weakness that you are strong for us. And so, God, I pray that you remind them that your spirit continues to. Remind them to lean on you for strength, that this isn't something that they get to muster up within themselves. That the reason we can even forgive is because of the power of your spirit. It's because of the forgiveness you've already extended to us. And it's overflowing of your spirit that comes out of us, that we are even capable of forgiving other people. God, I bless them. I even bless the people who have hurt them. And, Lord, we just say, we need you, God. We need you. Be in this situation. Be in this pain. Meet us here, Jesus, we need you. Heal us. God, redeem us. We love you. And we pray this in your holy, holy name. Amen. Amen. Guys, I love you. I'm so proud of you. Thank you for being here for another Friday. I hope that you have an incredible day and a beautiful weekend. But before we go, can we actually do something really cool today? Can we show somebody how cool Jesus is? Can we walk more like him, talk more like him, forgive like him, be more like Jesus. Let's be his hands and feet today. I love y'. All. Thank you for being here. I'll see you next week. I'll see you next Friday. Bye. Are you noticing your car insurance rate creep up? Even without tickets or claims, you're not alone. That's why there's Jerry, your proactive insurance assistant. Jerry handles the legwork by comparing quotes side by side from over 50 top insurers so you can confidently hit buy. No spam calls, no hidden fees. Jerry even tracks rates and alerts you when it's best to shop. 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