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Jamie Rubin
This is a Global Player original podcast.
Christiane Amanpour
Are you vaping?
Jamie Rubin
Yeah, I am vaping. You know what's coming. I'm in my own house. Go ahead.
Christiane Amanpour
I heard you vaped in secret in the State Department. Well, it was illegal.
Jamie Rubin
It was not permitted, and it was my way of getting through the day and minimizing the times. I would have to go outside to smoke a cigarette. You've caught me.
Christiane Amanpour
I'm Christiane Amanpour. I've been a foreign correspondent and host of a global affairs program for more than 30 years. I've reported from the front lines and more wars and crises than I can list here. And I've interviewed world leaders from the Iranian ayatollahs to Israeli prime ministers and just about everyone in between.
Jamie Rubin
And I'm Jamie Rubin, and I worked as a diplomat in the State Department under Presidents Bill Clinton and Joe Biden.
Christiane Amanpour
And we were married for 20 years.
Jamie Rubin
And we've been divorced now for seven.
Christiane Amanpour
So now we're exes. But we did always have great conversations. And these desperate times call for desperate measures, after all. And with the world more than I think any of us could have imagined, we decided to start the conversation again.
Jamie Rubin
What could possibly go wrong? I mean, let's face it, foreign policy was never our problem.
Christiane Amanpour
But on a serious note, this podcast will give us a chance to share behind the scenes stories that we've never been able to tell before.
Jamie Rubin
Yeah, like the time when the United States was about to bomb the Serbs and we thought you were kidnapped by the Serbian war criminals, and you with.
Christiane Amanpour
Your boss, the American Secretary of State Madeleine Albright, were the first US Diplomats to meet Vladimir. So we were in the room and in the field where it happened. Now we'll talk about what's going on and help explain how we arrived at a place where allies are suddenly adversaries, adversaries are somehow buddies.
Jamie Rubin
And we'll look at the consequences for the world if we don't do something about it and do something soon.
Christiane Amanpour
And I thought, if a divorced couple can have conversations and try to find some solutions, surely world leaders can sit down together and work things out, and.
Jamie Rubin
We'Ll tell it like it is, with no bs.
Christiane Amanpour
My mantra is truthful, not neut.
Jamie Rubin
Well, when I was a government spokesman, I used to say, we can tell the truth and nothing but the truth, but not the whole truth. And now maybe we can hear the whole truth.
Christiane Amanpour
Forget about a new world order. Right now, there is no world order. And that's why it's the perfect time for us to have this conversation. Listen to the X Files every Tuesday on Global Player or wherever you get your podcasts.
Jamie Rubin
This is a Global Player original podcast.
Christiane Amanpour Presents: The Ex Files – Detailed Summary
Release Date: May 4, 2025
Introduction
"Forget about a new world order – right now, there’s no world order." This compelling statement sets the tone for "Christiane Amanpour Presents: The Ex Files," a groundbreaking podcast hosted by the esteemed journalist Christiane Amanpour and her ex-husband Jamie Rubin, a seasoned former U.S. State Department official. Launched on May 4, 2025, the podcast delves deep into today's most pressing global crises, offering unparalleled insights drawn from the hosts' extensive experience in international affairs.
Hosts' Background
Christiane Amanpour brings over three decades of experience as a foreign correspondent, having reported from numerous conflict zones and interviewed a plethora of world leaders—from Iranian Ayatollahs to Israeli Prime Ministers. Her authoritative presence and on-the-ground reporting provide a rich foundation for the podcast’s discussions.
Jamie Rubin, with a distinguished career in diplomacy, served under Presidents Bill Clinton and Joe Biden in the State Department. His insider perspective on U.S. foreign policy complements Amanpour's journalistic expertise, creating a dynamic duo adept at unpacking complex geopolitical issues.
The hosts’ personal history adds a unique layer to the podcast. "We were married for 20 years," Amanpour shares (00:51), and although they "have been divorced now for seven" (00:53), their ability to maintain a synergistic relationship enables them to "finish each other’s sentences" when discussing current affairs.
Premise of the Podcast
"The Ex Files provides unparalleled insight into the issues keeping world leaders, and the rest of us, awake at night." The podcast aims to dissect and explain how the world has arrived at its current state—marked by unpredictable geopolitics, shifting alliances, and escalating conflicts. Through candid conversations, Amanpour and Rubin explore:
The hosts emphasize the absence of a cohesive world order, stating, "Right now, there is no world order. And that's why it's the perfect time for us to have this conversation." (02:16)
Key Themes Discussed in the Trailer
Personal Anecdotes and Behind-the-Scenes Stories
The Dynamics of Exes Collaborating on Global Issues
Commitment to Truth and Transparency
Call to Action
Notable Quotes with Timestamps
Christiane Amanpour: "Forget about a new world order – right now, there’s no world order." (02:16)
Jamie Rubin: "We'Ll tell it like it is, with no bs." (02:02)
Christiane Amanpour: "My mantra is truthful, not neut." (02:07)
Jamie Rubin: "We can tell the truth and nothing but the truth, but not the whole truth. And now maybe we can hear the whole truth." (02:07)
Christiane Amanpour: "If a divorced couple can have conversations and try to find some solutions, surely world leaders can sit down together and work things out." (01:54)
Conclusion
"Christiane Amanpour Presents: The Ex Files" promises to be a must-listen for anyone interested in understanding the complexities of today's global landscape. By leveraging their unique backgrounds and personal rapport, Amanpour and Rubin offer listeners a blend of insider perspectives, honest conversations, and insightful analysis. As geopolitical tensions continue to rise and the world grapples with unforeseen challenges, this podcast serves as a timely and essential resource for navigating our fractured age.
Listeners can tune in every Tuesday on Global Player or their preferred podcast platform to join Amanpour and Rubin as they unpack the intricacies of international affairs with "searing honesty, jaw-dropping stories, and candid humour."
About the Podcast
Note: This summary is based on the trailer transcript released on May 4, 2025, and provides an overview of the podcast's intended content and themes.