Loading summary
Richard Hunter
Chatgpt AI machine, satellite engine ignition.
Dena Temple Ralston
Click here and lift up.
Richard Hunter
They put off a lot of heat. Bitcoin miners. A lot of heat. I heated my house entirely last winter with the bitcoin miners. I'm not kidding you.
Narrator/Interviewer
And how's that air quality? Is that good stuff to breathe in?
Richard Hunter
I'm still alive.
Dena Temple Ralston
From recorded future news, this is Clickier's Mic Drop. A longer listen to one of our favorite interviews of the week. I'm Dena Temple Ralston. On Tuesday, we looked at Eastern Kentucky's wild economic pivot from coal country to crypto frontier. So today we talk to one of the people who actually tried to build something in this brave new world. A man who wasn't trying to exploit Kentucky as much as trying to return to it.
Richard Hunter
If you're going to get the taxpayers of Kentucky to subsidize your electricity, shouldn't you be required to hire X amount of people? Not just say you're going to hire them, actually hire them?
Dena Temple Ralston
For this week's mic drop, I'm handing the reins over to senior producer Zach Hirsch. Stay with us.
Warby Parker Advertiser
Every idea starts with a problem. Morby Parker's was simple. Glasses are too expensive. So they set out to change that. By designing glasses in house and selling directly to customers, they're able to offer prescription eyewear that's expertly crafted and unexpectedly affordable. Warby Parker glasses are made from premium materials like impact resistant polycarbonate and custom acetate, and they start at just $95, including prescription lenses. Get glasses made from the good stuff. Stop by a Warby Parker store near you.
Dena Temple Ralston
Support for Click here. Comes from Monarch. Managing your money doesn't have to be a struggle this year. Monarch is the all in one personal finance tool. Designed to make your life easier, it brings your entire financial life, budgeting, accounts and investments, net worth, and future planning together in one dashboard on your laptop or phone. Start your new year on the right foot financially and get 50% off your Monarch subscription with code CLICKHERE. Unlike most other personal finance apps, Monarch is built to make you proactive, not just reactive. Users feel more in control of their finances and Monarch is helping them save over $200 a month on average this new year. Achieve your financial goals for good. Monarch is the all in one tool that makes proactive money management simple all year long. Use code clickhere@monarch.com for half off your first year. That's 50% off your first year@monarch.com with the code click here. I'm Dena Templewost and this is Click here's mic drop.
Narrator/Interviewer
We talked to a lot of people while we were reporting in Kentucky. Environmentalists, lawyers, residents, professors, even a finance guy who had a few things to say. But we also wanted to find someone who was trying to get in on Kentucky's bitcoin boom. Someone who actually saw all those tax breaks, cheap land, and glowing political promises and said, yeah, that's me. Which is how we found Richard Hunter.
Richard Hunter
One of the reasons that I wanted to mine in Kentucky was because there were subsidies provided by the government, the state government, to subsidize the electrical costs, which. Bitcoin's very energy intensive, takes a lot of electricity. And when I heard that they were giving subsidies for bitcoin mining, I'm like, oh, I've got to get in on this.
Narrator/Interviewer
Richard mostly grew up in Ohio. He lives there now in Toledo. But when he heard about the subsidies, he started making plans to set up shop in Kentucky to do bitcoin mining there. For Richard, this wasn't just a business opportunity. It was a homecoming.
Richard Hunter
Spent a lot of my youth in a place called Mockingbird Holler in Four Mile, Kentucky, which is about, oh, I guess an hour north of Knoxville, Tennessee, two hours from Lexington, Kentucky.
Narrator/Interviewer
His great grandfather ran moonshine. His grandfather was a coal miner. And every summer his dad sent him back from Ohio to visit the hills of Kentucky.
Richard Hunter
My father wanted my brother and I to know what it's like to be in the hills. And so every summer of my young life, I spent in that holler with my grandmother, my dad's mother. And we ran through the mountains barefooted and collected turtles and was playing in the creek. That was our life. Shot my first squirrel at 7 years old. Skinned it, you know, gutted it and we cooked it and I ate it. You know, that was the life of a, a young hillbilly, I guess.
Narrator/Interviewer
And what is a holler?
Richard Hunter
What is a howler? A holler is basically a valley. There's one way into it. You're surrounded by mountains. It's a little bit of flat land. If you read it on a map, it will say hollow, but the, the people who live there will refer to it as a howler.
Narrator/Interviewer
Back in the early days of crypto, before bitcoin was a household word, Richard was back in Mockingbird Holler selling timber. Then he got a call from his 19 year old cousin Dylan, and he.
Richard Hunter
Says, hey, he goes, would you be cool with me coming and staying with you for the weekend? I'd like to shoot your guns. I'd like to ride your four Wheelers and just hillbilly it up. And I'm like, yeah, no, that's cool of me. I, you know, I was cool with that. So Dylan shows up. Dylan's typical 19 year old college student. Partying hard and just blowing off steam. But the weird thing was Dylan just would not shut up about this thing called bitcoin. I'd never heard of bitcoin before, had no clue about it, but he was so convinced that it was the future of money, he just couldn't stop talking about it. And at that time, Bitcoin was 7 cents a coin, you know, I mean literally 7 cents. And you know, I was in my late 30s at that time, I think, and I, it's just so hard when you're well into adulthood to listen to a 19 year old college kid that is partying. And so I just ignored it.
Narrator/Interviewer
Fast forward a little bit and Richard was on YouTube and he saw a video about bitcoin which was no longer just 7 cents.
Richard Hunter
It was $36,000 a coin. And I just about had a stroke.
Narrator/Interviewer
It's a story as old as bitcoin itself. Missing out on an early price bump, hearing about others getting rich and then falling down the crypto rabbit hole.
Richard Hunter
Honest to God, my blood pressure went through the roo. I'm like. Because I could have bought it at 7 cents. I could have pulled the money out of my pocket and became a multi, multi, multi millionaire. And I didn't. And I will forever kick myself. But I thought to myself.
Narrator/Interviewer
But he also thought, maybe it's a sign.
Richard Hunter
All right, you realized you screwed up. People were talking about bitcoin, somebody being worth a million dollars plus a coin. I'm like, I am not dropping the ball on this one again. I went.
Narrator/Interviewer
So he bought a little piece of bitcoin, just about $5,000 worth. And he started learning about how to mine it himself.
Richard Hunter
I literally sat there and watched a million YouTube videos before I ever bought my first miner.
Narrator/Interviewer
He started out small, just one old machine.
Richard Hunter
It was an old antiquated miner. I used that miner for probably two months. Then another I felt confident to upgrade to what I called a big boy miner, a real miner, you know, something that you would see in these mining farms.
Narrator/Interviewer
And another until there were six.
Richard Hunter
They look like old fashioned desktop computers, tower computers. And the fans blow over the chips to keep them cool because they're, they're just screaming demons. I used to call my, my miners my girls. And, and every morning I'd get up and I pour a cup of coffee and I'd go downstairs to see how the girls were doing, you know. And I have four cats. I'm a crazy cat guy and they shed a lot. And right now I have the fans off of my bitcoin miners because they need to be cleaned out. Not because they're junk, but because the cat hair is getting thick and that's going to lead to a disaster.
Narrator/Interviewer
Is there a fire risk?
Richard Hunter
You know, you're talking about things that did keep me up a few nights, but nothing ventured, nothing gained. If you're not willing to die in a fire, then you don't belong in the business.
Narrator/Interviewer
When we come back, Richard tries to take his mining operation to the next level. Stay with us. Do you ever feel like you blinked your eyes and then woke up in some kind of sci fi movie?
Warby Parker Advertiser
Suddenly it seems like the very existence of AI is changing everything, including our relationships.
Narrator/Interviewer
I would like to think that I could not fall in love with an AI companion, but I really think that anybody could. I'm Os Velozjian.
Warby Parker Advertiser
And I'm Cara Price.
Narrator/Interviewer
We break down the tech news you really need to know. Listen to tech stuff in the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
Richard Hunter
ChatGPT, AI machine, satellite engine ignition.
Dena Temple Ralston
Click here and the lift off.
Narrator/Interviewer
The plan was simple. Start small in Ohio, scale up and then move the operation to Kentucky. For all that cheap power, those tax incentives, maybe he'd even create some local jobs.
Richard Hunter
But I was somewhat shocked by how loud it was. It was very loud. You want to know what a bitcoin miner sounds like? This is a perfect example. It literally sounds like you're blow drying your hair at the highest speed. That's what it sounds like. And think about that. Times 300 for one shipping container times 8 or 16, it's going to put out a lot of noise.
Narrator/Interviewer
Richard already had land in Kentucky where he could have moved the machines to, but it needed to be flat to set up the shipping containers and scale up. And his land was not flat. It was a hollow or holler and all those fans to keep the machines cool.
Richard Hunter
It would have been too noisy for the neighbors. I just didn't want to do that to them and I just put myself in their position. You know, would it be something that I would be completely okay with if I was the one trying to sleep at 2 in the morning? And that hum.
Narrator/Interviewer
He thought about revenue sharing, buying more land, making it work. But in the end I didn't know.
Richard Hunter
How long the mines would be running. I didn't Know if it would be a year, 10 years, 20? I didn't know. So at the end of the day, I came to the conclusion that if I wanted to do mining in southeast Kentucky, I would have to buy more property. I'm pushing 60 years old. I don't really know that I want to buy more property in southeast Kentucky.
Narrator/Interviewer
He didn't buy more property, and he didn't put shipping containers full of bitcoin miners on the land he already had in Kentucky. Instead, he went back to Ohio to his six mining machines in the basement. Except his electric bill was through the roof. So these days, the machines are actually off. The price of bitcoin now hovers around $100,000. But for Richard, it's not enough until.
Richard Hunter
Bitcoin gets to about 120 grand. It busted over 100,000 for a minute, and I got all excited. I started talking to my girls. I'm like, it won't be long, girls. You're going to be right back on. And then it just dropped back down.
Narrator/Interviewer
The basement is quiet, and the dream not quite dead, but definitely on ice. But Richard still believes in crypto's promise for Kentucky and for people like him.
Richard Hunter
Doing it right means hiring local people to put the money back into the local economy. Doing it right doesn't mean, you know, once again exploiting hillbillies. You know, they were made promises. They've always, of course, for the last hundred years, they've been made promises and promises that have never been kept. But they were told that we're going to disrupt the coal industry. But you're going to get training and you're going to get education, you're going to get all these things. None of that happened. None of it. They never got what was promised to them. It's horrible, you know, it's horrible. And now, now, what do I know? But there are plenty of people in Kentucky that are far enough away where maybe they do deserve to have some type of revenue share to. To make it worth it for them to have to hear that humming 24. 7. I'm not saying that they deserve to have 50 grand a month. That's not what I'm saying. But something, you know, some kind of check that comes every month that says, hey, we really appreciate you being good neighbors. That's just me thinking out loud.
Dena Temple Ralston
From recorded future news, this has been Click here's mic drop. It was written and produced by Megan Dietre, Sean Powers, Erica Gaeta, Zach Hirsch, Lucas Riley, and me, Dina Temple. Rest. It was edited by Karen Duffin. We'll be back on Tuesday with an all new episode of Click Here. Have a great weekend.
Narrator/Interviewer
Foreign.
Warby Parker Advertiser
Support for this program comes from Recorded Future. In cybersecurity, the biggest risk isn't what can be seen, it's what gets missed. Recorded Future analyzes billions of signals to help organizations stay ahead of threats. Recorded Future Know what Matters?
Recorded Future Advertiser
Act first if you're looking for a daily guide to cybersecurity news and policy, sign up for the Cyber Daily from Recorded Future News. It serves up the day's most interesting and important cyber stories from our sister publication the Record, and then aggregates all of the big cyber stories you might have missed from news outlets around the world. Just go to TheRecord Media and click on Cyber Daily to get all you need to know about the world of cybersecurity right in your inbox.
Podcast: Click Here
Host: Recorded Future News
Episode Date: January 9, 2026
Guest: Richard Hunter
Summary Prepared by: Podcast Summarizer AI
This episode dives into the personal journey of Richard Hunter, a would-be bitcoin miner with deep Kentucky roots, who set out to ride the wave of crypto's promised economic revival in Eastern Kentucky. Amidst tales of missed opportunities, noisy machines, and the region’s complicated history with outside promises, Richard reflects on why he tried—and ultimately failed—to establish a mining operation that could have helped both himself and the local economy. The episode explores the realities behind blockchain booms and the human stories intertwined with digital gold rushes.
"One of the reasons that I wanted to mine in Kentucky was because there were subsidies provided... to subsidize the electrical costs, which—Bitcoin's very energy intensive, takes a lot of electricity." (03:37)
"We ran through the mountains barefooted and collected turtles and was playing in the creek... Shot my first squirrel at 7 years old." (04:43)
"Honest to God, my blood pressure went through the roof. I'm like. Because I could have bought it at 7 cents... and became a multi, multi, multi millionaire." (07:20)
"And every morning I'd get up and I pour a cup of coffee and I'd go downstairs to see how the girls were doing, you know." (08:24)
"I heated my house entirely last winter with the bitcoin miners. I'm not kidding you." (00:09)
"If you're not willing to die in a fire, then you don't belong in the business." (09:13)
"Would it be something that I would be completely okay with if I was the one trying to sleep at 2 in the morning? And that hum." (11:24)
"It busted over 100,000 for a minute, and I got all excited. I started talking to my girls. I'm like, it won't be long, girls. You're going to be right back on. And then it just dropped back down." (12:41)
"Doing it right means hiring local people to put the money back into the local economy... Doing it right doesn't mean, you know, once again exploiting hillbillies..." (13:10)
"They never got what was promised to them. It's horrible, you know, it's horrible." (13:30)
The episode weaves Richard's colloquial, storytelling style ("hillbilly it up," "my girls" for his miners) with a more reflective, sometimes wry, commentary on economics, community, and personal regret. The conversations are candid, relatable, and occasionally bittersweet as they expose both blockchain's promise and its all-too-human pitfalls.
This episode offers a grounded, human-centric look at “the blockchain buzzkill” behind crypto gold rushes—the personal dreams, the region’s deep scars from broken promises, and the reality that technology, for all its disruption, lands on real people and communities. Richard Hunter’s story reminds listeners of the gap between political promises, digital fortunes, and the often-messy reality of economic transformation in places like Eastern Kentucky.