ICYMI: Dani Michelle - Celebrity Stylist

Summary

Podcast Summary: Climbing in Heels with Rachel Zoe Episode: ICYMI: Dani Michelle - Celebrity Stylist
Release Date: February 21, 2025
Host/Author: Cloud10 and iHeartPodcasts

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Introduction to Dani Michelle

In this episode, Rachel Zoe reconnects with Dani Michelle, a renowned celebrity stylist whose impressive clientele includes Hailey Bieber, Kendall Jenner, and Elsa Hosk. Rachel praises Dani's passion and work ethic, setting the stage for an inspiring conversation about Dani's journey in the fashion industry.

“Her new jewelry line, Mega is so perfect. I literally wear her pieces almost every day.” – Rachel Zoe [04:00]

Early Life and Upbringing

Dani Michelle shares her roots, growing up in Potomac, Maryland, and feeling a strong connection to Washington D.C. Her upbringing balanced a sophisticated, traditional Southern background with a rebellious, music-influenced perspective.

“I had this really, like, manicured, sophisticated perspective of like, you know, a very proper upbringing... and like a rebel and, and unique, like, come together.” – Dani Michelle [04:25]

Career Beginnings and Transition to LA

Initially aspiring to attend NYU, Dani’s plans took a turn when her parents insisted she stay closer to home, leading her to the University of George Washington. After graduating, she secured an internship at Seventeen magazine before venturing to Los Angeles with the aim of spending just one year before moving to New York.

“I had to have this one little adventure... And I've never left.” – Dani Michelle [07:00]

Working with Rachel Zoe and the Evolution of Styling

Dani recounts her early days in LA, securing her first role as an assistant to Michelle Tomachevsky. She highlights the rapid immersion into high-profile projects, including styling the Jonas Brothers, and the invaluable mentorship she received from Michelle.

“It was like, this is my job and I need to go give it 100.” – Dani Michelle [17:49]

Importance of Kindness and Work Ethic

A significant portion of the conversation focuses on the essence of success in the fashion industry. Dani emphasizes kindness, integrity, and giving 110% to every project, underscoring that genuine relationships and a solid reputation are paramount.

“Being kind is the number one thing on my requirement list.” – Dani Michelle [19:04]
“Your reputation is all you have to stand on in business.” – Rachel Zoe [41:32]

Launching the Mega Jewelry Line

Dani discusses her entrepreneurial venture, the Mega jewelry line, which she co-manages with her mother. The brand reflects her personal journey, emphasizing sentimentality and meaningful design. The name "Mega" symbolizes strength, boldness, and a larger-than-life presence.

“Mega feels like large than life, one of a kind, strong, bold.” – Dani Michelle [37:53]

Balancing Personal Life and Career

Dani opens up about her marriage to Prince Truman and their growing family. She shares heartfelt moments of cuddling with her three children, highlighting the delicate balance between a demanding career and personal happiness.

“It's a love affair that is indescribable.” – Rachel Zoe [28:19]
“He literally said, don't leave me here.” – Dani Michelle [28:28]

Advice for Aspiring Stylists and Entrepreneurs

Dani offers invaluable advice to those entering the fashion industry. She stresses the importance of kindness, dedication, and building genuine relationships. Dani also touches on overcoming imposter syndrome and the necessity of perseverance in achieving long-term success.

“What craft your entire business is treating everyone with, like, kindness and respect.” – Dani Michelle [41:32]
“Your pie will come. If you follow those steps...” – Dani Michelle [46:36]

Closing Thoughts and Key Takeaways

Rachel wraps up the conversation by commending Dani's authenticity and relentless passion. She reflects on the mutual respect and the surreal experience of speaking with someone who mirrors her own values and dedication to the craft.

“I have to tell you, for the first time in my life, I actually felt like I was talking to myself.” – Rachel Zoe [54:34]
“You have to, you have to put it in. And you... have to recognize what's happening.” – Rachel Zoe [53:40]

Notable Quotes

• “To be kind is the number one thing on my requirement list.” – Dani Michelle [19:04]
• “Your reputation is all you have to stand on in business.” – Rachel Zoe [41:32]
• “Give everything. Go ahead. Say yes to everything.” – Rachel Zoe [45:05]
• “Your pie will come. If you follow those steps, if you're a good person...” – Dani Michelle [46:36]

Conclusion

This episode of Climbing in Heels offers a deep dive into Dani Michelle's journey from a traditional upbringing to becoming a celebrated celebrity stylist and entrepreneur. Her insights on kindness, perseverance, and building genuine relationships provide a roadmap for aspiring professionals in the fashion industry. Dani's story is a testament to the power of passion and integrity in navigating and succeeding in a competitive field.

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Transcript

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[Rachel Zoe]

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[Dani Michelle]

So I grew up really in Potomac, Maryland, but I went to school in D.C. my friends lived in D.C. my worked in D.C. so I felt like D.C. was my home. It's what I always say. So I'm an. I'm an east girl.

[Rachel Zoe]

That makes sense. That, that definitely makes sense. But by the way, sorry, D.C. but I would never consider it a fashion city.

[Dani Michelle]

No, no. However, I really think that it plays a huge role in my perspective in fashion because we had a huge music scene. So it was like the minute I could rebel and I had a very, like, liberal high school, so we were going to concerts on Tuesday nights of, like, some of the best bands. Like, like, things, people that headline Coachella, you know, 2008, 2010, were like, I was in a small, 100 person little room with them. And so I had this, like, influence of music. And then at the same time, I had this really, like, manicured, sophisticated perspective of like, you know, a very proper upbringing. So I feel like those two of being, like, really poised and polished and then also being like a rebel and, and unique, like, come together. And that was a huge part of being in D.C. for me.

[Rachel Zoe]

So you come from a family that's a little more like traditional and proper?

[Dani Michelle]

Oh, yeah. Like holidays, like, skirts have to be below my knees. Like, nothing could Go from like, neck to anywhere, like elbows off the table, you know.

[Rachel Zoe]

Really?

[Dani Michelle]

Yeah.

[Rachel Zoe]

Okay. See, I would, I would never get that. I would never get that from you. You do not give off that vibe.

[Dani Michelle]

My family was Southern and it was just like, very high expectations of like, you know, where you come from and how you need to act like a lady and in a really positive way, you know, with really strong ethics, morals.

[Rachel Zoe]

You know, which quite frankly, I crave. And, you know, I actually took my kids out of a very progressive school and put them in a very traditional school because I actually really. I just. I love manners. I do. I love manners. And I. And I love when people look at you when you say hello to them. I do, I do like that. I do. But I do think. But I think. I think there's a balance, you know? I think there's a balance.

[Dani Michelle]

Yeah. Like, I think the kids that I don't want to speak to, people that, like. I feel like you always rebel from what. Of course. Of course you were. Of course. I think that as long as we started in a really, like, we had a really good upbringing, then you find your path where you're supposed to be and you go somewhere, you find your own world. But I really loved my upbringing and I'm super grateful for. For that space that it gave me.

[Rachel Zoe]

And so when did you leave? When did you leave dc, Maryland? Like, were you like, I'm out of here. I don't want to live here forever. Were you like, hmm, maybe I should try.

[Dani Michelle]

I. Listen, like, I went to the same school from kindergarten till I was 18 to senior year and I went to University of my. I was gonna go to nyu. I was like, nyu. That's what I.

[Rachel Zoe]

Me too.

[Dani Michelle]

That's all.

[Rachel Zoe]

Me too.

[Dani Michelle]

And then I went to. Did you go to nyu?

[Rachel Zoe]

No, my parents wouldn't let me. They said, New York's not going anywhere. See it when you get back. You're not staying here.

[Dani Michelle]

Where'd you go?

[Rachel Zoe]

I went to. I went to George Washington because they were like, well, they. Well, I said, okay, I' to la. And they were like, no, you're not. They were like, cuz you will never come home. We will never see you again. Absolutely not. So like, no. No New York City and no la. So I was like, okay, what'd you say?

[Dani Michelle]

Where are you from?

[Rachel Zoe]

I'm from New York and New Jersey, from Short Hills.

[Dani Michelle]

Oh my God. So my mom. My mom moved to Livingston, so I know next door.

[Rachel Zoe]

You know it. Oh my God, that's so funny. That's why?

[Dani Michelle]

So I went to, um, just to, like, hang out with a friend that was already in college. And I got to this campus that was, like, straight out. It looked like Saved by the Bell to me.

[Rachel Zoe]

I was like, oh, my God.

[Dani Michelle]

Grass and palm trees and a fountains. And I was like, I'm being saved by the bell, of course.

[Rachel Zoe]

Literally. Yep.

[Dani Michelle]

So I went there and loved it. I made, like, great friends that I'm still girlfriends with today and. And have, like, an awesome experience because it was very, like, in a city. So we went to Miami all the time. And I feel like I have this, like, beautiful few years where I was, like, partly a child and partly an adult. You know, I had a job and I went out and I was in the city, but then I also, like, fell back into my college life and college campus. And, yeah, it was the perfect mix, I feel like, of, like, transition from child to adult.

[Rachel Zoe]

That's what I always say about college, to be honest. For me, like, the biggest purpose that college served for me was growing up, like, learning to be, like, independent. Because otherwise you go from being a kid, kind of owned and governed by your parents, into the real world, right? And you're like, you know, so just go to these.

[Dani Michelle]

And not to speak on someone else's experience, but, like, if you're just in these small towns where you just live a school life, it probably is, like, a shock still of, like, adult life versus school life. I really also love. You know, I believe everything happens as it should. And I think that it was a great school for me as far as the transition of my life.

[Rachel Zoe]

And then you were like, okay, so, New York, here I come. I'm coming because, okay, I'm gonna go.

[Dani Michelle]

To New York, because everyone from D.C. goes to New York. That's, like, the natural progression, of course. And I had interned in New York at the time. I got internship at Seventeen magazine, which was like, you know, 20 years ago. That was it.

[Rachel Zoe]

And I was at YM. Yeah. Yeah.

[Dani Michelle]

Why? Oh, my.

[Rachel Zoe]

That was my. It's my only job I ever had. My only job I ever had. I worked at. I worked at YM magazine. And I started as a fashion assistant in the closet three days a week. And then I left. A senior fashion editor, and I went freelance at 25. Only job I ever had.

[Dani Michelle]

It was 17. I was in the accessories department. And one day, like, I was the first to get there, the last one to leave. Not because I was trying to prove something, just because I was, like, so into it. And one day they had to bring someone to set. And they were like, she's coming to set. And I didn't even know what the word set meant. I was like, okay, you know, And I got to set, and someone was. They were. They were having a photo shoot. They were dressing, you know, the models. And I was like, this is a job, like, to tell people what to wear.

[Rachel Zoe]

It's called the sitting. At the time, it was the sittings editor.

[Dani Michelle]

Yeah. And I wanted to write magazine. That's, like, what I really had wanted to do. I love writing, and that's where I thought my. My career would go and I would work at a magazine because I thought if you wanted to work in fashion, you wrote for a magazine. I don't know how the photos got there. I don't even know what I thought. But I think that when you and I spoke, like, it was such a different time that, like, no one talked about a stylist. We didn't know what it was. And your show was in 2008 was the year I graduated. It all came at this, like, perfect storm of, like, I knew I wanted to be it. And then you showed the world what it was, and you kind of created this lane for us to be. For it to be spoken about. So at that point, when I was interning is when I learned about being a stylist. And I was like, okay, that's what I'll go do, and that's what I want to do, and I'll do that in New York. But before I do that, like, I'm gonna go to, like, LA and have one year in la. Kind of like, before I become an adult, like, transition from, like. I don't. Just felt I was gonna have this one year, and then I've never left.

[Rachel Zoe]

No way.

[Dani Michelle]

And.

[Rachel Zoe]

And were you single? Were you single when you came to la?

[Dani Michelle]

I had never been here before. Did not know one person here.

[Rachel Zoe]

Get out of here.

[Dani Michelle]

Yeah. And I. And I got this apartment off of MySpace. This girl. This girl had this really great, like, you know, fashion, music, MySpace blog. And I was like, she needed a roommate. And I took the spot.

[Rachel Zoe]

How wild is that? See, when I moved here, I had. I had a whole life here because I had spent. I moved here because I was spending, like, 80% of my time here styling. So I was like, why am I going back and forth? I've always wanted to live here. And here I am 20 years later. So it kind of eats you that way.

[Dani Michelle]

It's crazy that you're interviewing me, because the first time we met, like, I was asking You a million questions and you were so. There's an episode where you've told your whole story so I can go watch it because for like a week I like kept thinking about everything you were saying. Your story is so incredible and so legendary. Really, the experience you have is so legendary. And when you write a book, I will be the first to buy it.

[Rachel Zoe]

Or whatever I have to. That's what I'm sending you when we hang up, I'm going to send you, I'm going to send you style 8 as O and living in style and.

[Dani Michelle]

Oh no, no, no, I have style eight or so I bought that because that came, that came out what, a decade ago?

[Rachel Zoe]

It came out when you graduated. It came out. I think my first book, I want to say was 2008 or 2009 and then 2012 or 13 because I was pregnant with Kai. So I know I definitely bought your first book. You mean my next book?

[Dani Michelle]

Yeah. Like, is there a book where you tell. I don't remember what that was, but.

[Rachel Zoe]

I definitely, I don't think I have. Everyone wants me to do a tell all, but it's like I'd get arrested. I can't. Like, I could do one without names or I could all, you know, tell us the story. Here's the thing. It's interesting because it is kind of interesting. Interesting because it's very similar. My story is similar to yours in the way that I like, I didn't really know what I wanted to do, right. And so then I think at the end of the day I sort of fell into it, fell in love with it. Definitely did not know what a stylist was. And to your point, the reason I started this show was because it was actually the last thing I said I'd ever do. Right. Like never in any life would I want a camera on me. Like, put it on the client. That's what I do. And then I was like, you know what? Why is everyone so, so confused about this industry? Like, there has to be some democratization of what this is. It has to be more relatable to more people, you know. And I have to explain the genius of the designers behind the curtain because they are genius and that's why everybody looks this way, you know. And so, I don't know, that was sort of the goal of it. And I think for me to hear you and so many other amazing, you know, young stylists that I, that I adore sort of want to or, or be more motivated to become a stylist from that is like for me, that's. There's no better reward that I could get forever doing it, because it's a hard five years, but it was not easy to do.

[Dani Michelle]

It's remarkable, though.

[Rachel Zoe]

Like, sweet.

[Dani Michelle]

It's just really unbelievable. Like, even for me. Like, it's like, for me, it is not past me that I'm speaking to, like, the legend herself.

[Rachel Zoe]

You're the cutest. Well, let's talk about you. So, okay, so here you are. You graduate, you move to la, and you basically think you're going for a year to just do this and become a stylist, because you, now that you've figured out what it is, so you move to LA, you get this room from a rando person on MySpace, which is just, you know, wild. But people do do that. I mean, listen, you know, Jen Atkins story, she, like, rolled here in a car and was, like, with, like, $300 or something and, like, lived in her car. And here, like, you didn't even know. Like, you didn't have a client at that point. So, like, what are you doing, by the way? Wait. Important question here, because I think this is very important. Like, you didn't have a client, right? You came to la, because to me, that's actually terrifying. And your parents, were. They like, my daughter's lost her mind. Like, because a lot of parents do not support the insanity, right? But you have the bug, right? And, you know, you said you're. You didn't really go by the same rules, so you sort of were like, so you're this, like, wild fashion card.

[Dani Michelle]

I think that. I mean, I know that I have always been so driven and I've always, like, sought after something and, like, and made it happen. I think that my mom trusted that she raised me well and that I would make the right decisions and that if this was something I was after, she would encourage me to chase whatever I was looking for, right? We were speaking every day. She was like. She was the phone call I made every day. She knew what I was doing, and I didn't really. I didn't know what I was doing. I just knew that, like, I wanted to see this part of my life because I kind of felt that I was going to go to New York, get an apartment, get a life, and, like, just live in New York. I was like, before I just start my entire next chapter of my life, let me have, like, one little adventure. And. And she supported that. I. I don't think anyone thought I wasn't coming back. Like, no one thought. I thought we were. I Was just going to LA for a year, but I moved here. And then. I mean, listen, everything. I always believe, like, happens for a reason, at its right time. And, like, randomly. The neighbor in the building worked the Jim Henson lot and was like, there's a stylist that needs an assistant. And I don't know if, you know, Michelle Tomachevsky, anyone who does know or has worked her there. She is, like, one of the nicest human beings. I was, like, blessed with this, like, incredible human to. She threw me in the deep end. We were doing. Her client was the Jonas Brothers, and they were like, yeah, they were on fire.

[Rachel Zoe]

My backstreet voice, literally.

[Dani Michelle]

And it was, you know, talk shows, music videos, photo shoots, like, you know, private planes, everything. It was just, like, at the top level, immediately in the deep end. And she was just, like, the nicest human that did business the right way. And everywhere I went, I would be like, hi, I'm here for Michelle. And they'd be like, we love her. Like, isn't she the best?

[Rachel Zoe]

Amazing show.

[Dani Michelle]

And I saw that respect, and I respected her even more. The way that she treated me, the way she treated other people, the way that she was, her reputation. Like, I was like, this is. I was just so in love. It made me want to work so much harder. All I wanted to do was, like, be the best I could for her because she was being the best she could be, and it was just, like, the best environment. And I learned so much. And, like, still today, when she, like, likes my photos, and I'm like, you're still cheering me.

[Rachel Zoe]

That's the dream, by the way. Well, it's the dream to have someone like you and then. And then in turn, to support and cheer for you when you apply.

[Dani Michelle]

I knew that's, like, exactly how I wanted to be, and I've really never faltered from that. It's like, being kind is the number one thing on my requirement list.

[Rachel Zoe]

Should always be and should never change, no matter how brutal it could get and does get. You have to, like.

[Dani Michelle]

Yeah, I mean, I truly believe, like, yelling at someone doesn't make them want to, like, work harder. It probably shuts people down, you know, and, like, getting mad. It doesn't bring anything positive. Right. You have to work through it, find solutions. You have to encourage them. Like, say, like, it's okay moving forward. Like, just work to be your best team, your best self. And, like, I think that will, in my opinion, push people to then be their best selves, you know?

[Rachel Zoe]

Well, yeah, it didn't in my case, but.

[Dani Michelle]

But.

[Rachel Zoe]

But I'm so happy it does for you because. Because I'm hoping that it's a bit of a new world, you know, for me, it's been. It's so fun to watch you do your thing because, you know, I hadn't known you and then when I met you, I was like, she's such, like, a cutie. Like, she's so meaning. Like, for me, it's, you know, people always ask me, like, how did you become Rachel? And I don't know any of that other than I loved it so much that it was all I could do. Right. And so when I meet someone like you, I get so sort of, like, there's people that do things because it's a job, and there's people that do things because they live and die for it, you know, And I think that there's a different way that people motivated by the passion and genuine love for the job end up working. Right. And truthfully end up succeeding. Right. And so I think with you, it's very obvious that you love it. But, you know, I do want to point out for our listeners that, like, you know, without name dropping, I'm going to just name a few. But, like, you know, Danny Styles, Kendall Jenner, I mean, casual Hailey Bieber, and like, all those looks that you see popped and run all over the world that everybody copies is done by you. And so we collab together. My girls are like, no, of course, of course.

[Dani Michelle]

And, you know that. Yeah, that vibe. But we. Yeah, we are. Yeah. I couldn't even believe if you told me this was going to be my life, I wouldn't tell. I wouldn't believe you.

[Rachel Zoe]

But it's. But it's. It. I think it. It says. It says a lot because I think that when the girls and look, they. They do definitely have their own sense of style. And it is a collaboration. As it should be. Right? As it should be. Because I don't think you'd love just like, someone walking in and be like, I'm closing my eyes, put clothes on me. Like, you know, because I did, in fact, have a client like that, and it was. And I love her.

[Dani Michelle]

But what I say to that, though, is that, like, they're so focused in their. In the. The lane that they're in, whether it's.

[Rachel Zoe]

Like, writing music or secondary.

[Dani Michelle]

Yeah. That the. The clothes to the carpet, that's just a means that. So they can arrive and do their job, which is talk about their music or their film or whatever. And the same way that they're not Passionate about the art of, like, fashion. It's the same way I can't read music notes or, like, could never, never align for a film.

[Rachel Zoe]

Like, everyone has 100%. 100%.

[Dani Michelle]

So there definitely are those people that are like, just tell me what's happening right now.

[Rachel Zoe]

Yeah.

[Dani Michelle]

What I'm wearing.

[Rachel Zoe]

So what?

[Dani Michelle]

Well, you. You create with.

[Rachel Zoe]

So what are, like. Were there ever any moments? So you end up coming here, you never leave. You end up working for Michelle, which is the dream. To work for an incredible stylist. Because I always say, like, it's boot camp, right? And especially when you work in music, specifically, it's boot camp. That was my train. That was honestly my training. I went freelance and right into Britney and Backstreet and Jessica Simpson and NSYNC and all. All of. All of that. And Enrique. And Enrique. And it was just like, as you said, like, limitless budgets. Music videos, album covers, private planes. You're going to Monaco for 24 hours. You're flying here for three hours, and you're getting back. It was like, I definitely aged, like, 20 years in five years. And I definitely didn't sleep. And it was the most insane amount of money. It was the most insane, like, working out. It was just always working, right? And. But I will say it was the grad school. It was the grad school for styling. It was because you had to be prepared for everything. Right?

[Dani Michelle]

Yeah. I want to hear those stories, Rachel.

[Rachel Zoe]

So bad.

[Dani Michelle]

So bad.

[Rachel Zoe]

There are so many stories. There are so many.

[Dani Michelle]

Which is crazy. Like, someone just asked me something yesterday, and I'm like. Like, I can't. Some. I. There was a country. I've been to Croatia, and I can't even remember going to Croatia.

[Rachel Zoe]

Oh, my God. That happened to me the other day. Someone was like, oh, my God, I'm dying to go to Prague. And then literally, like, someone goes, rachel, didn't you go there for, like, a Brad pit shoot? And I'm like, I did. I actually went there. I did go there. I was there for two weeks. What was your favorite part? I'm like, I remember a bridge and a hotel, and literally that's it. A bridge.

[Dani Michelle]

There's so much I always say. Is that because we're, like, so detail oriented. Like, in my office, there's thousands of pieces, and I could, like, tell you a backstory about each one of things, what job they came from. Like. Like, sometimes when we do, like, purges, I'm like, no, no, no, you guys, I'm like, this piece. I'm like, I have such Insane short term, like, there is nothing you could ask me that I wouldn't know going on, that I think that it's like, for my. My long term has, like.

[Rachel Zoe]

Yeah, it won't come back to you till people interview you. Like, and. And all of a sudden, it's a little bit of, like, this is your life. Like, I'll be like, rachel, you did this, and you did this album, and you were here dressing them for this. And I'm like, you're right. I was. You're absolutely right. I was. And it's so funny. Like, sometimes you have those moments, but it does. It did teach me sort of like, as I move forward in work, like, try to, like, try to experience it. You know what I mean? Try to. But it's hard. You can't, because it's like this. And especially when, you know, being a stylist, you're in the service business, right? So it's. It's you. You almost take your whole self out, and she go, what do you need? Who needs this? Right? Like. And it's. It's. It's like flashes of light.

[Dani Michelle]

That, honestly, is, like, such, like, an important sentence. Because I think a lot of people a forget that. Like, I know business from the perspective of, like, how hard we give. Like, sometimes when I come home, I'm just so drained because my whole day is. Is emotionally, mentally, and creatively giving to other people. And I think that also, like, for the younger generation that forgets, like, this is a really hard job.

[Rachel Zoe]

It is really hard, difficult.

[Dani Michelle]

And I think that going back to what you said, it's like, only the people that, like, are really passionate about it and that are not just chasing the money, but chasing their creativity and their relationships and the connections. And, like, the moment is, like, when. When they'll succeed because you have to give it 110%. And it takes a lot, a lot out of you. So it's like, you have to be really dedicated and really want it and really care.

[Rachel Zoe]

And you are married, correct?

[Dani Michelle]

I am.

[Rachel Zoe]

Tell me everything. So where did you meet Prince Truman?

[Dani Michelle]

We met. It's like a. It's like another whole podcast on itself, so I'll keep it. We met at a dinner party. I was on a first date, and he was on a second date. I showed up, like, on the back of this motorcycle, this Italian man. And he was like, I came out. No, Rachel. I took the helmet off. I, like, shook my hair so, like, my hair wasn't flat. And he saw me, and he was like, I want a woman. Like, that one day I saw him, he did this magic trick.

[Rachel Zoe]

And I was like, he did a magic trick?

[Dani Michelle]

Yeah, he did a magic trick on me while using his date as, like, his. His helper, you know? So she was like, I knew you always had a thing for her, but either way, that night, we, like, super connected. But we stayed dating our people. It went on for about a year. Finally, about a year later, it was after, like, a fashion event that we ran each other. I was like, I'm going to Hemingway's. And I was like, you should come. And I was like, live a little bit. And he came and we, like, dance all night. And then we told each other that we had feelings for each other. And then eventually I told the guy that I was dating. I said, like, I'm so sorry. I have feelings for someone else. And he was like. Actually, he was like. And he was such a beautiful human. And he was so, like. Like, it was exactly what I needed, that time in my life. And I'm so grateful, that relationship. But he was like, you know what? He was like, I see that for you, and I think that you're gonna marry him. And I was like, oh. He, like, totally gave me his blessing. And then fast forward, we got married.

[Rachel Zoe]

That's. Wow.

[Dani Michelle]

He goes. He either said, I think you're gonna have his baby one day, or, I think you're gonna get married. One of the two did one of those things, but gave me full blessing.

[Rachel Zoe]

Wow. And you did have a baby.

[Dani Michelle]

Yeah, we had a baby, right? Three. Yeah.

[Rachel Zoe]

Oh, my God.

[Dani Michelle]

Which I also asked you about when we met, because I was, like, so sure that I need to have a girl. And having a boy is, like, the greatest thing that's ever happened to me.

[Rachel Zoe]

It's a love affair that is indescribable. I don't know what else to say.

[Dani Michelle]

And he just entered the cuddle phase. He's never wanted a cuddle. It started two nights ago. I just got, like, my first, like, in bed.

[Rachel Zoe]

Like, under the arm, like, wrapped around you?

[Dani Michelle]

Yes. Like, mommy bear, baby bear, cuddle in this morning, I got out of bed. His literally said, don't leave me here. Like, it just happened two nights ago. And it's, like, incredible.

[Rachel Zoe]

Well, I'm gonna make you feel better. Mine is almost 13, and my little one is just turned 10, and they're both under my arms, still wrapped around me. Literally every night. Every night. And every morning, I will do it until they go to college, if they let me. I will. I'm such a sicko. I literally cannot let go of them. They make everything better. They make me just happy. They actually told me that I should go back to styling. They go, mommy, the way you talk about styling, mommy, you should do it again someday. Yeah. And it's funny, they go, you know, you style us, but I feel like you probably want to put pretty long dresses on. This is what you do. When you have high standards and fancy all the fancy things like an iconic Dior saddlebag or that diamond tennis bracelet, you go to ebay. There you'll find new loves that will never disappoint. Expertly authenticated in everything, whether it's that vintage pearl necklace or brand new ruby earrings. A Prada crossbody bag to be besties with your other handbags. Even an eternally classic watch like that Rolex Oyster or Cartier tank. You know the one. And when you find it, ebay has their experts eyes to make sure you're getting the real deal. That way you can be confident that the designer finds you came for the luxury wardrobe you've always wanted. It's all real. In fact, it's verified authentic. So bring your high standards and never limit what you can find. Yeah, ebay, the place for new, pre loved, vintage and rare fashion. EBay, things people love. Hi friend, it's your inner child calling. And they want churros.

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[Dani Michelle]

So.

[Rachel Zoe]

Well, they haven't seen my show. Skylar's begging me to watch it and I'm like, oh, stop. I don't think I'm there yet. I think there's too much, you know, you know, I have gone back.

[Dani Michelle]

Like I think after I met you that night, I Was like. I was like, I want to go watch an episode. It's wild in your studio. And the dresses got wet.

[Rachel Zoe]

That was one of the worst days of my life. The worst days of my life. And, you know, there were many, but I. You know, I mean, when it rained on the globes and I had five clients in long gowns, and then every single picture of every single one of them was holding an umbrella, holding the train up, and I was like, I quit. You know, it's so weird because I had so much of my life and my emotion. I think if I, like, watch it, it's just going to be like a this is your life kind of thing. Because like you said, it's a bit of a blackout for me. This show, it was such a hard thing to do because I was working like you're working now, right? I was styling, but I was also like, I started my media business and these other things, but then I had to shoot the show, like, five days a week, and it was sort of like, not. It took nine months, you know, and so it was just mental. And I would just be like, I need to work. Like, I actually need to do my job, you know? But in hindsight, what it meant to people and what it did for people, for me makes every bit of it worth it, truthfully, because it really. To know that it had an impact on, you know, people like you or people going through the hardest time in their lives and couldn't get out of bed, you know, things like that, for me, helped me reprioritize the purpose of what I was doing. You know what I mean? And I think, like, it definitely, I think in hindsight really helped redirect and focus my real mission for everything I do in my job and for the brand and everything about it and what I want to always do for women, right? And so I think, like, with styling, I just felt like it was like you said, it was like this unknown thing, right? And so I think for people like you now that are bringing these women that are so. They love you and they support you, right? And these girls are like your friends. And I think, you know, it's such an intimate relationship being a stylist, and I was so personally invested in it, you know? And like you said, I think it's hard because I think when you love it that much and you care about it that much, and you care about the people so much, right? It's like, it's not a fake best friend, right? It's like, you're in there, you're in the studio, like, I would sit with my clients till three in the morning and we would have, like, you know, champagne to tea, to breakfast, to this, to that, and like, 40 outfits later and like, play dress up and all the things. And then, you know, and then these looks would come out of it, like, born out of those moments, you know, and it's incredibly rewarding, you know, in the sense of, like, when your client looks at you and was like, we did it, or like, I've never felt so beautiful, or like, that was a great one. Or like, like, you know, don't you just. Aren't those the pinch me moments? For me, those were the pinch me moments, you know, 1,000%.

[Dani Michelle]

I always say that. Like, for me, the only. Like, I don't read comments.

[Rachel Zoe]

I don't read, like, you can't, you can't, you can't.

[Dani Michelle]

I really don't. The only thing that matters to me is that they're happy.

[Rachel Zoe]

Sure.

[Dani Michelle]

And when they tell you that they're happy or they felt like a million bucks or the day or like, we slay, like, any of those things, I, like, that's when I'm just like, oh, like, it'll change my whole day. Like, I am so happy when they're happy. And like, I know, like, that's a sign of, like, real love, you know.

[Rachel Zoe]

Where it's just like, listen, I think at the end of the day, you're living your dream. Now. You launched a jewelry line called Mega, which I personally love. And, like, I literally opened it and put it on. And so I think now, like, obviously, starting the jewelry line, you're starting to, I think, look at, okay, so what's another passion and what am I doing? Right? Because it's. Because it's a big jump, right? Like, whenever you start to divert from what you're doing, you're like, okay, this is scary. But I'm doing.

[Dani Michelle]

Felt like the right thing for me because I really feel like I found my place in fashion, where I'm supposed to be. I think that creating a fashion line would have been. It would have been so conflicting to my creativity. And I think that I've always been passionate about Julie. For me, like, it's super sentimental and it's. It's what I've, like, splurged on when I, like, want something to, like, signify something. Like, for me, I asked for jewelry for graduation, for, you know, my 30th birthday, for my 35th birthday. Anything that's significant to me, my push gift, Valentine's Day like, all I want are a little. I get usually like a ring or something. I feel like I would stack them all up. Each of those little pieces were like memories and accomplishments and meaningful parts of my timeline. And that's how it really started with me stacking a bunch of rings because everything really had a backstory of like a meaning to me. And I just felt like, you know, my mom is a Julie designer. For the past 10 years, she pivoted after she sold her business. And it just always felt like something sentimental and personal to me. And it felt like just a no brainer of like where I should be and what I should be doing. And so my mom and I partnered on this together. She does all production and I do creative and we bounce obviously like ideas together. But she's my friend.

[Rachel Zoe]

So fun. That is so much fun. I did not know that.

[Dani Michelle]

Even talk more every day. So it's great.

[Rachel Zoe]

I did not know that. So why the name Mega?

[Dani Michelle]

So Vogue had called me a megawatt stylus. And that was like one of those moments where I was like, did you read that? And I even had to like google it. I was like, what does megawatt me? Because I know this like, you know, title, but like, let me just read into it. And it was, it was after that article I was like, what am I doing with myself? Like, what is next? You know, and so when I was putting together all my creative boards and you know, every folder I would just put mega because that's just kind of like that was at that moment where I was like, okay, let's, let's do something. And so all of my folders and we did so much like, you know, those like name searching diagrams. I mean, I was doing French, I was doing. And. And we did mega in French, but I speak French and I was doing Italian. I was doing everything. And I was just trying to find the right word. And I kept coming back to mega because for me it just felt like so, like large than life, one of a kind, strong, bold. Like the four letters was just so crisp to me. And it felt like who the woman was was someone that was like minimal but strong and, and bold and, and confident and just felt right. So I did so much searching. I came back to that, to that word. I love it. You're so sweet. One day I hope I'll get to like ask you more questions or something.

[Rachel Zoe]

You can ask me anything anytime. Seriously. Anytime. We'll go for a glass of champs and talk the talk, talk the talk. Because, God, there's talk but, yeah, I promise to do that deal.

[Dani Michelle]

I think that if I could, like, leave with, like, one idea of, like, this business, I feel like I. I always, like, struggle with, like, what I could do to, like, share my story. Because I. I can't even tell you how many people, like, probably once a week I get an email that's like, how do I become you for, like, my store? I mean, for my school project? Or, like, could I just ask you, you know, like, what your experience was? Like, I know there's so many people dying to hear these stories, and nonetheless, I could never have each of these individual conversations. I always try to think about, like, what platform I could share, like, the true story with. And I think that one of the questions when we were discussing, like, what we would talk about was just, like, what are your three pieces of advice? And I feel like if I could just share with the kiddos. I feel like the three things is, like, for me, which have really been, like, tried and true, is like, to be kind, you know, is that I think that when people let their ego change, like, what their intention is, you know, these relationships with your team, with the showrooms, with the stores, with the designers, with your clients, with their assistants, like, all of these relationships is what craft your entire business, right? It crafts who you are, where you will go and what you will succeed with. And I just feel like sometimes people forget. They think that they're better than someone or that they're in different position than someone. And, like, we are all in a web working together. And it would not be possible without each of those people. If the designers were making the clothes, if the showrooms weren't repping them, if the store associates weren't helping you, if the assistant wasn't scheduling the fitting, like, we are all in this together, and we have to treat everyone with, like, kindness and respect. And like, that those relationships will lead to, like, your success in a genuine way. Like, you can't. You have to really care from your heart. If you don't like, it won't. It just won't be genuine. But when you really do care and you really find that respect for everyone, like, that is so pivotal, I think, to success. I always say, like, give everything. Go ahead.

[Rachel Zoe]

No, I want to. I want to comment on that. Because the best of the best are always the kindest. And I can tell you that firsthand. I can tell you that. And your reputation is all you have to stand on in business. And it's. People can see when you're not genuine. They can. And so kindness is first and foremost, literally the most important thing you do in business. And it's treating the person at craft services, the person doing the lighting, the person at the door, it doesn't matter. And people that think otherwise will never, ever, ever last in the business. Especially today, in days of past, maybe you can be an asshole. You cannot be an asshole. You have to treat people with kindness, but genuine and first and foremost. And Peter Limberg, I have to tell you, was the best example of that. Because he was the kindest, most brilliant photographer. And working with him was such a gift because the way that he talked to people, the way that he treated people, how gentle he was, how kind he was to every single person on set, no ego, nothing. And I tell anyone that will listen in any position that that's how you win. If you will last forever. If you, if you are good to people. Everyone.

[Dani Michelle]

Yeah. I mean, I walk off set and like, I, like, tell the grip and like the lighting team, I'm like, good job today, you guys. Like, you killed it.

[Rachel Zoe]

Awesome.

[Dani Michelle]

Because if it weren't them doing epic writing, like, what is my fashion saying?

[Rachel Zoe]

You know, it's, it's true.

[Dani Michelle]

It's, everyone is so important. And I, I, I really, like, wholeheartedly believe that. And I'm glad you even brought off, like, you know, the crafty, the behind the scenes people, like, all in it together. There is no one. I don't care you're following or what. There is no one more valuable on the set than anyone else.

[Rachel Zoe]

That's true.

[Dani Michelle]

Except for the talent that we're all.

[Rachel Zoe]

We'Re all there, there.

[Dani Michelle]

And then I think, like, giving everything 110. I feel like, like I can't tell you how many times I would, like, it'd be the end of the day, the last or after like three days of like, out and about. And I'd be like, oh, do I like me to go there? Like, I, I, my car is full to the top. Like, do I really need to go? And I can't tell you how many times it'd be the last stop. And that would be the look.

[Rachel Zoe]

Like, of course.

[Dani Michelle]

Thank God. Like, I never gave up. I, I did everything over and above. And to what you were saying, your clients, like, you gave them, like, you went over and above and like, I know my clients know that I do that. I know that they know I'm thinking about them all the time. That, like, when I'm not on a job with them, I'm still thinking about them. And when I do a Job, I like, work from it from the moment they tell me to, like, the finish line, like, it's, it's so important because, like, every detail tells the whole story. And like, I always, like, leave no rock unturned. And then I think to what you just said about, like, your reputation, like, it's the one thing you can't buy. And once that reputation, like, is gone, there's nothing you can do to fix it. And I think a lot of people think that this is some race and they think that because there's Instagram now that, like, there's this immediate satisfaction that, like, they can, like, they should be a surplus so fast. And it's like, it's a marathon. And there is no one thing that will, like, get you to the end. You have to, you need every little step along the way because you learn from every step. And everything that you do, you, like, learn so much from. And everything you do is valuable. And I just think that you have to, like, give everything it's full, like, experience because it will lead to something else. And you have to, like, understand the longevity of your career if you want a long career.

[Rachel Zoe]

Yep. Say yes. Coming up. Say yes to everything. Everything, Everything.

[Dani Michelle]

And I think what's like, so crazy is that there were so many times where I, like, wanted to quit or I wanted to, like, because it was an incredibly different time. If you remember, all we had was a website, right? There was no Instagram.

[Rachel Zoe]

So if I went, I had a portfolio.

[Dani Michelle]

I remember having my printed out book that I would bring into an office. It was true story. So different. And if I, I was so discouraged because I would go do something great, right? I would. I remember I was working with Douglas Kirtland, who was the last photographer to shoot Marilyn Monroe. We would do these incredible things together. I was shooting with for, you know, I was so young and we were doing like Vanity Fair, but I had no one to show it to, right? I would do this amazing story and then there was no platform. It would be in a magazine. Great. Like, someone would read the magazine. But there was no way to show anyone, like, look what I'm doing and look what I'm capable of doing. So I had to grow my entire business by every time going on set and someone being like, this girl is so great. You should use her. This girl is so great. And that's obviously what happened. And it would come from the publicist or the makeup person or the assistant. Like, everything led to something, but it took a really, really long time because there was no platform. To show people what you could do. Whereas today, these little girlies are dressing themselves and they're like, like, you know, look, I'm a stylist, you know?

[Rachel Zoe]

Huh?

[Dani Michelle]

But it was such a long process, and I had. It was really hard. And I. Blood, sweat and tears. Like, my husband was telling me these stories. Like, do you, like, do you remember? Like, literally I checked everything myself and, like, checked in and out. Like, I did everything myself, you know, like, I literally grew this entire thing myself. And I don't. I don't forget those things. And I think that a lot of people today are racing, and it's like, it will come. I promise you. It will come. If you follow those steps, if you're a good person, if you give it 100%, if you do business the right way, if you say yes to every opportunity, your pie will come. I promise.

[Rachel Zoe]

It's true. But you listen. I scream at every mountaintop. You gotta do the work. You gotta do the work. You have to do the work. And that is the biggest problem with this generation right now. I'm sorry to generalize, but, like, it's across the board in every industry. And I think, to your point, because everyone's looking at highlight reels right on social media, and, you know, you still have to do the brick by brick. It can be faster than it was for us. But, like, it's just blood, sweat, and tears at the end of the day. And you have to do it that way because you learn from it, you grow from it. I was taping little taxi receipts and food receipts for, like, for like a hundred thousand dollar wardrobe budgets. And I would turn in like a hundred pages of like, Xerox paper on both sides with a glue stick of all my expenses. And so, you know, I think that those things are the things that shape you. So it's like, to your point, it's like I say to people coming up, it's like those, like, sort of war wounds are what. What makes you really. And it makes you grateful.

[Dani Michelle]

And I read this one quote. It was actually, I think from like, a painter or. No, it was something that was like. It was basically an artist. And he was like. He was justifying his rate, right? And he was like, you're not paying for my rate for what I'm doing today and tomorrow, you're paying for everything I have learned along this entire way and everything that I'm going to, like, all of the knowledge that I have at this level to the table. So I feel like when it's like people at Our level. I've been doing this for over 15 years. Like, when you're asking for a certain rate, it's because, like, you have so much experience. Like, if I know I need something, I know exactly where to get it, how to get and the best version of it because I've done it so many times. And I feel like the younger people, when they, like, think they should get the same rates as us, I am like you. You. There are so many experiences that you've never been in that you won't even know how to handle that. Like, like, have grace, have patience. Like, it will come. But it's, I have so many layers of, like, everything that I have that I've experienced to be to am right now.

[Rachel Zoe]

It's the wisdom. It's the wisdom and the, I like to say the war wounds for better, for better or for worse, but they're there. And I think it's what makes us. And I think it's, again, the same industry. And I think you have to, you have to put it in. And I, you know, again, the stars stand out and ultimately you stand out and you're crushing it. And the girls know it and it's. And you love it, and you love it and you're doing it and, and you're building mega with your mom, which is so beautiful.

[Dani Michelle]

If you told me, like, you know, they say, like, where do you see yourself in five years? Like, and I do think there's something so real, right? Because, like, the things that, like, I, I, if you told me for my clients, I'd be like, you're crazy. It's a dream. I'm living this dream. And then on top of it, like, I consult for this huge company that's incredibly exciting for me. I'm a creative director of this huge company that's exciting for me. And I'll be allowed to say what.

[Rachel Zoe]

It is or no.

[Dani Michelle]

I am a fashion consultant for Sony Pictures. Amazing. I just took on the role of creative director for Joe's Jeans. I mean, I launched my Julie brand and I have a dream styling business. And it's like, it's just so incredible because if you'd asked me five years ago, I would say, I don't know. I know I would have said I would love to create a direct for a brand and I would love to consult, like, those were, I thought, the next step of things, like a bigger picture project. And I have these bigger picture projects. So it's really incredible to, like, forecast and to like, put your heart in something. I don't think about on the daily, but it probably, like, in the realm, you know?

[Rachel Zoe]

Yeah. I mean, I. You know, it's funny because I don't know that I ever projected. And I think it's amazing to see that you kind of. You had that idea that that's what you wanted to do for the next step, and it happened. And I think it's also patience because it's also not saying tomorrow, right?

[Dani Michelle]

Yeah.

[Rachel Zoe]

You're saying in my five year, I hope to be doing this, right?

[Dani Michelle]

Yeah. Yeah. So now I gotta set my next five years.

[Rachel Zoe]

I believe it's called manifesting.

[Dani Michelle]

Right?

[Rachel Zoe]

I believe it's called manifesting. I'm trying this so far. I suck at it, I have to say.

[Dani Michelle]

No, but I think it's like. It's things that just, like, sink into your system. You know what I mean? Like, it's not like, pacing it. It's not like you're like this. Like, if you're looking for, like, it won't happen. It just, like, you, like, think about it and you say it, you feel it, and then you, like, go live it. And I just think that, you know, maybe it's working.

[Rachel Zoe]

It's working, Dani. It's working. And you're a mama and you're married, and it's all the things. I feel like you're living all the dreams. So pinch yourself now. Pinch yourself now so that you remember that you're living all the things and all the dreams.

[Dani Michelle]

You know, it's also so interesting is that I don't. I think one of the other reasons of my success is that I don't think about it, is that I don't. I don't ever. Like, I've never changed. Like, you know, I don't wear makeup. I don't. Like, I wear flats. Like, all right. I like to wear heels.

[Rachel Zoe]

You're also, like, 5, 10. Yeah.

[Dani Michelle]

Like, I just. Like, I just. I'm so focused on, like, what I'm doing that I've never. I've never thought about the global. I've never thought about. I don't think about the clients that way. I just think, like, this is my job and I need to go give it 100. And, like, I don't. I've never changed in that respect. You can't.

[Rachel Zoe]

You can't.

[Dani Michelle]

If you start thinking about it right, you read the comments of this, you could psych yourself out. Like, you just have to be like, focus on what you're doing. And I. And I think that that's another reason why, like, I've been able to just keep pushing. Is that. Because I don't think about it. I just, like. I just stay focused on what I'm doing and, like, push to the next thing and keep. And just keep going, you know, you.

[Rachel Zoe]

Gotta just do it. You gotta live it, you gotta be it, you gotta do it, and don't overthink it. And to your point, I think. I don't know. The only thing I could say to you is just recognize what's happening, because I never did. I never did.

[Dani Michelle]

There's this thing called the imposter syndrome. Do you get it?

[Rachel Zoe]

Yes, yes. I know it well. I know it well. And I think sometimes we all just feel like that and we're like, wait, what? And then people say these things too. You're like, huh?

[Dani Michelle]

What? Yeah, yeah. No, no, it's very real. It's like, very real. And I'm just like, wait, what? Like, you know, like. Like I said, if you told me this in my life, I wouldn't believe you. You know, I'm just.

[Rachel Zoe]

Well, you better believe it, honey, because you are climbing in fucking flats. But you are in your mega jewelry and styling mega supermodels and actors and musicians and all the things and living all your wildest fucking dreams. So I'm happy for you and I love watching it, and I'm happy I met you and I'm happy I got to talk to you today. And then we have to have, like, an offline.

[Dani Michelle]

Yeah, this is one of those, like, pitch me moments. I know that, like, every day. But really, for me, this means so much to, like, talk to you and to, like, I'm like, rachel Zo knows who I am type feeling.

[Rachel Zoe]

So swear I know who you are, and I adore you and I love what you're doing, and I'm so happy about it. And I have to be honest with you, for me to just see someone that loves it so much, like, truthfully, not to sound like a mom, but, like, that actually fulfills me the most. And. And to know that I had any part of that from the beginning is. Just makes me even. It makes me feel like so much is worth what I've been through, but it's not even.

[Dani Michelle]

It wasn't even. Oh, like, that's when street style started. Like, all of that, you know? Like, listen, it all happened the same time of this perfect storm of, like, the Internet, you know, all of us, same time, you know? And you were just at the crux of this. Like, our business just changed, and you were right there in the center of it.

[Rachel Zoe]

Well, I love it and I adore you and I love your passion. I see it coming out of your eyes and your skin and your smile, but I'm just impressed with you. I love what you do. I love how you dress all the girls. I love your collaborations and I'm excited to just continue to watch you fly and soar and do all the things. It's so good. And know that you have a friend on the sidelines. Thank you so much to Dani for being on the pod today. She is just the real deal. She's as genuine as it comes. And I have to tell you, for the first time in my life, I actually felt like I was talking to myself. It was actually really a bit surreal. Like the way she was answering questions. I literally felt like it was my answers. Like it was. It was actually a bit surreal for me to have this conversation. But I loved it so much because it's her passion is so genuine. Her work ethic is unparalleled. And you know, I think so many of her points are so important. Like, because when your clients know how much they mean to you and how much you think about them when you're not on the clock, I think that really is what matters. And she works really, really, really hard. I really loved her takeaways about being kind, giving 110% and keeping your reputation. Solid Gold. I'll see you next week.

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[Rachel Zoe]

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[Dani Michelle]

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