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CLOC Talk
Hosted by Corporate Legal Operations Consortium · EN
Tune in to CLOC Talk every other week to discover thought leaders hailing from corporate law departments, law firms, legal technology enterprises, legal services firms, consulting services providers, and academia. You may just find the meaning of life.
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Navigating the CLOC Compass Tool
6d ago00:25:03Tap to summarizeIn this special CLOC Talk Live from CGI 2026 episode, leaders from Neota Logic and the CLOC Maturity Committee pull back the curtain on the highly anticipated CLOC Compass, a powerful new tool designed to help legal operations professionals measure, benchmark, and accelerate their maturity journey. Hear the story behind a vision that began as a simple spreadsheet and evolved into an interactive platform that delivers personalized insights, actionable roadmaps, and a new way for legal ops teams to demonstrate value and drive strategic growth. Whether you're a legal ops team of one or leading a mature global function, this conversation offers an exciting look at how data, benchmarking, and AI-powered insights are shaping the future of legal operations.
Transcribe →The Human Operating System of Legal Ops
3w ago00:32:12Tap to summarizeIn this thought-provoking episode of CLOC Talk, Oyango Snell and Mark Dean explore the intersection of neuroscience, legal operations, and AI adoption. The conversation examines how lawyers are trained to seek certainty and minimize risk, why that mindset can create barriers to innovation, and how legal professionals can reframe experimentation as a path to growth and better outcomes. Listeners will gain practical insights into change management, technology adoption, professional responsibility, and the mindset shifts needed to thrive in an AI-enabled future.Thank you to our sponsor, Discernis AI Native Discovery.
Transcribe →Go Far, Go Together: The Power of Industry Partnerships
Jun 1100:24:37Tap to summarizeThis episode of CLOC Talk Live from CGI 2026 features CLOC President & CEO Oyango Snell in conversation with Timo Karakashev, exploring the power of community, partnerships, and innovation in the legal industry. Together, they discuss how conferences like CGI create opportunities for connection, education, and business growth while expanding access to legal technology around the world. The conversation also examines the role of AI, the future of legal services, and why collaboration—not competition—is the key to building a stronger global legal ecosystem.
Transcribe →CGI 2026 Meditation #3: Feeling Tones
May 1400:12:26Tap to summarizeThis wellness-focused podcast from the CLOC Global Institute 2026 guides listeners through a meditation practice centered on observing “feeling tones”—the positive, negative, or neutral emotions attached to thoughts. It emphasizes mindful awareness, encouraging participants to gently notice distractions, reconnect with their breath, and build self-awareness without judgment. Sponsored by Legal Fly, the session promotes mental clarity, presence, and gratitude as tools for overall wellbeing.
Transcribe →CGI 2026 Meditation #2: Visualization
May 1300:11:58Tap to summarizeThis wellness podcast from the CLOC Global Institute 2026 guides listeners through a calming, sensory-based visualization meditation, inviting them to imagine a peaceful walk to the ocean. By engaging all five senses—sight, touch, sound, smell, and taste—the practice helps deepen relaxation, emotional awareness, and presence in the moment. Supported by Legal Fly, the session encourages listeners to reconnect with their breath, body, and inner calm before returning to their day.
Transcribe →CGI 2026 Meditation #1 Breathing
Apr 2700:11:17Tap to summarizeThis wellness podcast from the CLOC Global Institute 2026 introduces a foundational breathwork meditation aligned with the theme “Stronger by Design,” emphasizing intentionality, presence, and the power of stillness. Listeners are guided to anchor their attention on the breath using a simple mantra, building awareness while gently releasing distractions without judgment. Supported by Legal Fly, the session encourages mindfulness, emotional check-ins, and a calm, focused return to the day.
Transcribe →The Business of Law with Kunoor Chopra
Apr 2300:28:41Tap to summarizeHost: Janessa NelsonGuest: Kunoor ChopraThis episode of CLOC Talk features Janessa Nelson in conversation with Kunoor Chopra, exploring how legal departments can rethink the business of law through smarter use of technology, data, and global resources. The discussion highlights the shift from traditional, reactive legal models to more intentional, design-driven approaches that prioritize efficiency, scalability, and strategic impact. Chopra shares practical insights on right-sourcing work, leveraging alternative legal service providers, and integrating technology in ways that actually solve business problems—not just signal innovation. The conversation also emphasizes the human side of transformation, focusing on enabling legal professionals to spend more time on high-value work while reducing administrative burden. As Corporate Legal Operations Consortium Global Institute approaches, the episode leaves listeners with actionable guidance on where to start, how to build momentum, and why now is a pivotal moment for legal operations evolution.
Transcribe →Shaping the Future of Legal Ops Learning (Part 2)
Apr 200:28:21Tap to summarizeIn this episode of CLOC Talk, host Adam Becker sits down with Catrine Chevalier and Andrea Shaheen to explore how the Education Advisory Council (EAC) is redefining learning in legal operations. From building a global, collaborative learning ecosystem to navigating rapid innovation like GenAI, they share how education is becoming a strategic driver of credibility and career growth. The conversation dives into what modern legal ops professionals need most—practical skills, peer-driven insights, and the ability to think strategically in a constantly evolving landscape. If you're looking to stay ahead in legal ops, this episode offers a clear view of where learning—and the profession—is headed next.
Transcribe →The Long Run: Leading with Endurance, Authenticity, and Strategy in Legal Operation
Mar 1900:25:08Tap to summarizeThis Clock Talk episode features Lyndsay Van Benschoten, Director of Legal Operations at HCA Healthcare, discussing why legal operations transformation should be treated as a marathon rather than a sprint. Drawing on her experience running marathons across every continent, she explains the importance of pacing change, sequencing initiatives, and prioritizing long-term strategy over quick fixes. Lindsay shares how she built a legal operations function from scratch by focusing on relationships, foundational processes, and data-driven decision making. She emphasizes balancing quick wins with long-term infrastructure to build trust and momentum. The conversation highlights that sustainable legal ops leadership requires discipline, resilience, and a human-centered approach.
Transcribe →Shaping the Future of Legal Ops Learning (Part 1)
Mar 600:23:58Tap to summarizeIn Part 1 of this CLOC Talk series, host Janessa Nelson sits down with Education Advisory Council members LaResa Young, Matt Wheatley, and John Esposito to explore what inspired them to join the EAC and what excites them most about advancing legal operations education. From webinars and CGI to LMS innovation and global skill-building, the panel discusses how learning is evolving across the profession. Tune in for an insightful conversation about where legal ops education stands today — and where it needs to go in the next 3–5 years.
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