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Adam Carolla
Well, she was going out with the electric cars, and then she got the Dodge Ram, and now she's happy. I saw Roots with my mom.
Bill Burr
Wait, I thought your mom was never there and now you watch Roots with her. I didn't watch Roots with my mom.
Adam Carolla
Random.
Bill Burr
Guest number one. Remember, always when you're on, like the Tonight show, the cop always said, like, guest number one. Yeah, on it. How are you, pal?
Adam Carolla
Good to see you, brother.
Bill Burr
How you doing?
Adam Carolla
I'm doing well. I hear.
Bill Burr
I hear all about you. Your show's better than ever. You're getting your walk on the Hollywood Walk of Fame. Your divorce went through. You must be on cloud nine.
Adam Carolla
It's good. Look, it's a pendulum. And it's either coming down or it's heading up like, you know, the business, and it's been heading up for the last short period of time.
Bill Burr
Well, yeah, but sometimes one part of your life is going great and the other isn't. I certainly have had that situation where, like, I remember when I was in my early mid-30s, you know, I was in a very successful relationship, but my career had taken that dip.
Adam Carolla
Right.
Bill Burr
You know, the worst part of a career, a comic. Two really bad parts. One, when you start, that's really tough, like, first year or two. And then there's like, oh, you think you're on your way.
Adam Carolla
Right.
Bill Burr
You know, you do a couple of sitcoms, it's like. And then there's that, like, not so fast.
Adam Carolla
Yeah, no, it is weird. Like, I got out of the gate. The first two shows, I really did, which was Loveline on MTV and then the man show on Comedy Central, both of them were destined for other networks. Loveline was supposed to be a syndicated show, and the man show was a pilot from abc. And they didn't get picked up, but they both ended up on MTV and then ended up on Comedy Central. And that was my first two endeavors. So I was like, oh, this is so easy. You know, it just. By the way, if the first network doesn't pick you up, the second one does. And it just all came so quickly and so easily. And then I realized at some point, oh, no, it's a slog. It's a struggle. There's lots of setbacks, and that's the way it goes.
Bill Burr
Even Frank Sinatra, you know, maybe the greatest career, or certainly among the top five, who was like a giant phenomenon of a star like Justin Bieber at his peak, whatever that was. Harry styles today in 1939, early 40s, the war years, Bobby Soxers, just people screaming lines around the block, just like. And then you go to 1950, couldn't get arrested. That's the subplot of the Godfather, the movie plot. Like, Johnny Fontaine. Johnny Fontaine never gets this pot. That was Sinatra, supposedly. You know, Sinatra had the same story. Somebody had to threaten the bandleader to get him out of his contract.
Adam Carolla
You know, it's kind of sad that guys like Elvis weren't alive to see the Ascension the second. You know what I mean? Like, when Elvis died, he was kind of a joke, and everyone wanted to see Crosby, Stills and Nash and not your dad's fat guy with his suit on and stuff like that.
Bill Burr
There's a picture of him right over there.
Adam Carolla
I'm sorry.
Bill Burr
And he's not.
Adam Carolla
No, but what I'm saying, he's not fat. What I'm saying is, is my daughter and her friends saw the Elvis movie 19 times. You know, they don't. Elvis didn't get to see his movie. Yeah, they loved it.
Bill Burr
They loved the Baz Luhrmann movie.
Adam Carolla
Yes. And what I'm saying, nobody was bigger than Elvis. And then Elvis became a sort of parody of himself and was sort of on the decline and gained the weight, the drugs and everything else. And then he died. He didn't get to then swing back and experience this resurrection.
Bill Burr
He did not in your liberal bubble, Adam, but he had a very brief period where he was the thing that's 1956. Until he goes into the army in 1950. I mean, really just a couple of years. Then he went into the army. When he came out of the army, that fucking criminal immigrant, illegal immigrant. Who was his manager, the Colonel Tom Parker. Thank you. Yes, let's name him since he's very famous. Yes. He kept him in this sort of indentured servitude. Elvis with all his psychological problems and mommy and daddy issues and all this stuff, and he just couldn't break away from this guy. So he kept him in the movies. You know, these what Elvis called travelogues. They're all the same clam bake and speedway and, you know, like forgettable songs and. Right. Because most of the country. Not your liberal bubble, Adam, I do.
Adam Carolla
Hang out with those people. Was Crosby.
Bill Burr
Neil Young was still going to see Elvis movies.
Adam Carolla
Yeah, I get it. I guess. You know what I say when I interview an athlete or anybody who had great success or was a Super Bowl MVP or something like that? I always ask him, was your dad around to see it? You know what I mean? Because it's poignant to me.
Bill Burr
Poignant to me because my dad wasn't.
Adam Carolla
Around to see you win the Super Bowl.
Bill Burr
No. Basically in life.
Adam Carolla
Right, right. Yeah. Sorry for. I'm not kidding around. But you're very successful guy. You've made quite an impact on society. And any father would go, oh, my God.
Bill Burr
But especially because my father was a newsman and a funny guy, and I'm a funny guy who made it successfully talking about the news. So it would have been different if I went into the soft ice cream business and was a giant success. But the fact that I sort of followed where he was heading, I think would have been very ridiculous.
Adam Carolla
But when he died, you were dealing weed and eating top ramen, and that's his last memory of you, right? No.
Bill Burr
Basically, he saw me do the Tonight show, but he never he died just before Politically Incorrect went on, which would have been the perfect thing for him to see. And I wish I was one of those people who could say, well, but he's watching from upstairs. But he. Unfortunately, he's not upstairs. He's dead.
Adam Carolla
Well, if it's any consolation, my dad made it all the way through my career and still didn't give a shit, so.
Bill Burr
Really?
Adam Carolla
Yes. Never. Never a thing. Never had cable. Never knew what I was doing.
Bill Burr
So. Why is that?
Adam Carolla
I don't. You know, I don't know how it works, but my mom and my dad somehow found each other like the two parents who care the least.
Bill Burr
Maybe.
Adam Carolla
Was this some sort of symposium for par. Potential parents who didn't care, but neither one of them ever had cable. They never knew what I was up to. They never had any interest and were not there to see any of it.
Bill Burr
And what about childhood? Same deal.
Adam Carolla
Yeah. Yeah. I'll tell you something about disappointers. They never disappoint. They're always who they are.
Bill Burr
Right?
Adam Carolla
It's never like, oh, no, my mom was the best, and then lost total interest, you know, in me once I.
Bill Burr
Got together and there. When you were kids. When you were a kid, but just not interested in you.
Adam Carolla
They had kids and didn't know it, but. But were there. You know what I mean?
Bill Burr
Wasn't that sort of good? Sometimes, yeah.
Adam Carolla
I mean, in general, you get a very realistic version of the world. You know what I mean? Like, nobody's gonna hop out and make you dinner and make you breakfast and tuck you in and sort of take care of you. Like, it was. Like, it gives you. When your parents and especially mom aren't. Aren't big fans and don't do a lot, you get really independent really fast, and you get a very sober version of the world and how you fit into it, you know, and is anyone going to do anything for you or are you going to have to sort of take care of your own stuff? Like, there's a version of it where the mom dotes over the little prince and he can do no wrong. And those guys get ruined because they show up in the real world expecting to have rose petals thrown down at their feet, and they get disappointed. Another direction. So, like, it is good in terms of getting independent and getting realistic. It doesn't make for a great childhood, but it's like, it's good.
Bill Burr
It's good training not to make everything political, and we sure don't want to do that. But it does to me. When I hear stories like this, and you hear them all the time, just make me more angry at the Democrats for going so in on identity politics because, you know, life is such a unpredictable mishmash of advantages and disadvantages. It's so simplistic to say, well, you know, because you're race, because your religion, because whatever this thing you identify, that is what is the defining thing in America. No, these are the kind of. That are very often defining thing in America. Your parents sucked. Now, that could have made you a giant failure. I've seen it work that way, and I've seen it work the other way, where it makes you work harder and be better and somehow get further maybe than you would if they weren't shitty. So to reduce life to those kind of simplistic boxes, I think is so crazy, because, you know, who knows who you would be or what you would be if your parents had been different.
Adam Carolla
I mean, for me. And also, I was poor and I was sort of rudderless, and I was a bad student. I didn't go to college, and so on and so forth. And the economy was bad. And it was. When I graduated high school, I just was unmoored and just sort of floating out in the sea. I did not have a direction. I didn't have a skill. I didn't know anybody. My parents were sort of don't ask, don't tell. And I literally was walking around North Hollywood applying for jobs at supermarkets and stuff like that, and there was no jobs. And I went to the North Hollywood Fire Department, and I just walked in and I said, I think I could be a fireman. I played football. I'm like, I'm strong. I don't have any fear. I think this would be a good job for me. I'm not. I'm not good with the essays and the typing and all that stuff, but I'll. I'll go up a ladder and go into a building.
Bill Burr
Yeah, I don't think you have to sell yourself that much. Just say you'll do it, and they'll, you know, I was. They'll give you the application.
Adam Carolla
I was eager for the fray, and the guy gave me an application. He said, don't expect to hear from us for a long time, really. And this is in the 80s. And I said, because you're white, we're not hiring white people.
Bill Burr
He said that.
Adam Carolla
He said, well, he was a white guy. And he was like, you know, between.
Bill Burr
The two of us, so they were.
Adam Carolla
Expecting a phone call.
Bill Burr
So they were overcompensating and making up for our sorry Past where yes, the blacks were.
Adam Carolla
Yes, they were. But to your point, I was my first. I was, I was first poor before I was white. You know what I mean?
Bill Burr
I was poor too.
Adam Carolla
And, And I needed a job. I. So they should hire sort of based on who needs it, not the color of your skin is what. Is what I was saying. And I, I couldn't get on with the LA Fire Department because I was white. And that goes way back. You know, affirmative action I think is way predates DEI and all that. Yeah, that kind of stuff.
Bill Burr
But same idea to.
Adam Carolla
To. Yeah, it's the same thing. It's. It's basically ecolog, climate change and global warming and all this stuff. There's sort of different.
Bill Burr
The reason why it's always problematic is because we do need to compensate in the whole. For the groups in the whole. The problem is that then it's individuals who actually, in your case, for example, pay the price for things you personally didn't do and your race did. But you can't also deny that our race, we have some responsibility. Not responsibility, but complicity, because we benefited from what advantages our entire race have. But then when it gets down to the individual level, you see where the bitterness comes in. I mean, who wouldn't be bitter if they were just the way blacks felt the same way. I'm being locked out of this job and you don't know me. You're judging me based on this thing. And so it's a tough one.
Adam Carolla
Well, you bring up a good point. And I kind of experienced it. It in a weird story, which is I then couldn't get a job as a fireman. So I. I wandered onto a construction site and I became a laborer. I just dug ditches and cleaned up garbage for seven bucks an hour. And that was sort of my lot. And then I worked.
Bill Burr
So white people were still doing that work.
Adam Carolla
Listen, like I said, poor people who I worked with.
Bill Burr
Right.
Adam Carolla
I did all sorts of carpet cleaning and manual labor and stuff with white, you know, with Todd Euler and Ray Oldhoffer and guys like that. Just dudes, you know, just poor dudes lived in apartments, you know, they didn't have any money. But there's an interesting story that at a certain point I got a job. A job opened up for earthquake rehab for the city of Los Angeles. And it was a prevailing wage after.
Bill Burr
The 1 in 94.
Adam Carolla
No, pre. The 1 in 94. 72 was the first one, I think, and then 94. But they were gonna retrofit all these old brick buildings in Koreatown. And this is about 87, maybe 88.
Bill Burr
I mean, every year they say it's boy, big one, it's coming. And I'm sure it is. But boy, they did kind of boy. Who cried wolf? Me, a little. A lot. I'm sure the plates are not happy. Those tectonic plates, they're, you know, they're. They're unstable. They're. They're like a. They're like your bipolar girlfriend. It could happen at any minute, or you could have a lovely dinner. I don't know, It's. It's just hard to say. But bad news.
Adam Carolla
This is all unreinforced concrete. So if it hits now, we're dead.
Bill Burr
This place is going nowhere. We're just gonna be in tune, going nowhere.
Adam Carolla
With all the money I put above.
Bill Burr
It, this is going fucking nowhere. So be the last thing standing.
Adam Carolla
So I got this job doing earthquake rehab. Cause it paid like 18 bucks an hour, which was big bucks.
Bill Burr
They called it rehab.
Adam Carolla
Earthquake rehab?
Bill Burr
Yeah.
Adam Carolla
It's hysterical seismic work.
Bill Burr
They called it California, even.
Adam Carolla
Yeah, The Betty Ford van was parked out front. So I get this job, and it's a city job, it's a government job. And they need a certain amount of women and African American. They need representation. Well, we can't find any black guys who know earthquake rehab.
Bill Burr
Or don't forget the lesbians.
Adam Carolla
I don't know if they can check for that, but there were few on there. So we end up with a black man named Chipper. And this guy's going to college, and it comes from money, but he's going to get this job working earthquake rehab and making good money. And he doesn't know anything. He doesn't know anything. And he's not a carpenter. He's there. They hired him because he was black. And they need representation on the church.
Bill Burr
You're a carpenter?
Adam Carolla
I was by then, really, because I'd been doing it for about five years before I got there.
Bill Burr
Use me, Jesus.
Adam Carolla
But here's the part that's interesting. There's a guy on my crew named Jeff who's always wanted to be a fireman, but he's white and he can't get on. So he's a carpenter, but his dream is to be a fireman. And years later I ran into this guy, Chip Chipper, the black man carpenter, when I was doing a school function thing years later. I was already like a celebrity at that point. He said, hi. I said, hey. I remember all back in the day and everything. And I go, good. And he goes, that Guy, Jeff, keep in touch with him. I go, nah, I don't really. He was a racist. I go, I don't think he was. He was a nice guy or whatever. No, he was racist. And I said, why? And he said he hated me. The. And I realized he hated you because he wanted to be a fireman, but he couldn't because of his race, and you were only hired because you're black. And that reminded him of that, and he, like, took it out on him. So it creates a weird Hatfields and McCoys in the system.
Bill Burr
There's no perfect answers in any of these naughty questions, especially about making right for horrible things that happened in the past. Now, I could see people listening to you and saying, oh, Adam, you have a chipper on your shoulder because this happened and it is colored, no pun intended, your views on race politically for all the years that came after. Is that true, sir?
Adam Carolla
By the way, I gave Chip my bags. He didn't have bags. He didn't have belt. He didn't have belts. I gave him a electrician's bag that I had, and he put it through a Gucci belt and hung it as his bags on the job. And I was always good with Chip. But I do realize that this guy Jeff hated him because of the script being played. Yeah.
Bill Burr
I mean, that is a microcosm of something that's happened millions of times, I would imagine, in America. But again, what is the alternative? You always have to ask that question. Is the alternative that we should have done nothing to recompense for the horrible past? No, I don't think that's the answer either. You know, it's hard not to do it and in some way be clumsy about it. We did over. In my view, the woke movement went over its skis or whatever that saying is, and went too far with it. I mean, there were universities, like, I think it was Michigan, who had 200 DEI officers.
Adam Carolla
Okay.
Bill Burr
A college at the most liberal place in the universe, you need 200 fucking. I mean, this is just very Soviet because, you know, what are DEI officers? They're basically political enforcers, certainly when you have that many. So did they go too far? But this is the story of America with everything these days. Did Biden go too far with letting people in? Of course, no rational person would argue that. And then no rational person would say, yeah, and what Trump did in response to it wasn't too far the other way with what's going on in Minneapolis and all this stuff that even his.
Adam Carolla
Own people hate now.
Bill Burr
And I just look at this. And I always say to myself, doesn't anybody want to win this game, this political game? It's so easy for somebody to win this game, and you both just go to the extremes and lose.
Adam Carolla
Yeah. So here's what I basically say. When they try to force you into a Prius X, amount of people go, I'm getting a Dodge Ram truck, and I'm putting a lift kit on it and some of those truck nuts hanging from the different differential and rolling coal. Right.
Bill Burr
You know what that is? Yeah. What?
Adam Carolla
So wait, hold on one second. I just want to say that when they push you this way.
Bill Burr
Yep.
Adam Carolla
They. Then a. A group. A large group goes that way.
Bill Burr
Yes.
Adam Carolla
But another group splinters off and goes harder the other direction. And now la, which used to have just Camry and Honda Civics, has either electric cars or Dodge Ram trucks.
Bill Burr
Or the musk thing, that. Personnel carrier thing. That. What's the Tesla that.
Adam Carolla
The cyber truck.
Bill Burr
Yeah.
Adam Carolla
Yes. That sounded like Damnation Alley with George Peppard from 1978.
Bill Burr
Exactly.
Adam Carolla
I mean, that thing is crazy.
Bill Burr
It's an asshole mobile.
Adam Carolla
Okay, Right. But so now we're at a point where we. Everybody is projecting, and everyone is signaling their base. So when you see a white guy and he has Oakley Blade sunglasses on top of his trucker's hat upside down, you go, okay, that guy's a Trump voter. And then when you see Gavin Newsom with his legs crossed further than his knees are overlapping each other by 12 inches, the wrong direction, then you go, okay, he's signaling to his base with the deep knee cross back up here.
Bill Burr
I totally understand your point about signaling, and I think you're right. I did not get the memo on Newsom's legs. What is it? Is this a thing? Is this somewhere on the Tucker Gram that I missed? Newsom's signaling people with his legs.
Adam Carolla
If you watch. If you see pictures of Newsom with the leg cross, it. Is that. Okay, first off, guys would do this a lot.
Bill Burr
I do it.
Adam Carolla
I do it, too.
Bill Burr
Cause I'm a guy.
Adam Carolla
And then women would do a sort of this. But the deeper the blue you get, the deeper, more compressive, the further it gets across. When you see pictures of Newsom with his legs crossed, it's insane. And the thing that's funny is Trump sits with his knees apart, and then he makes a diamond with his thumb and forefinger, and he puts it in front of his nut sack and says, focus on this.
Bill Burr
Plus the giant tie pointing to him.
Adam Carolla
Right. If you see Justin Trudeau or Gavin Newsom or any of these people do panel their legs. And if the guy is from the New York Times who's interviewing him, he's got the super deep leg cross, too. It's sort of a signal to the base.
Bill Burr
I must. I didn't know about all that.
Adam Carolla
Oh, yes.
Bill Burr
Okay. I'm learning. That's why we do this show, for learning. But I must say, I always thought it was a little weird when men cross their legs like you're describing. Nothing wrong with it, but it was just not how I cross my legs. There's something about it that, I'm sorry, is just not manly.
Adam Carolla
Yes.
Bill Burr
And you're saying that this is a signal.
Adam Carolla
Yes, it is. You can see it.
Bill Burr
I get up. You don't think it just could be. That's how they do it?
Adam Carolla
It's more than a coincidence that it is almost strictly the domain of the liberal politician and the liberal who does these super deep.
Bill Burr
I'm gonna need to, like. I wanna signal that I'm a centrist. I'm not that guy.
Adam Carolla
No.
Bill Burr
But I'm not this asshole.
Adam Carolla
No.
Bill Burr
Okay, so I'm here.
Adam Carolla
Right. But the thing about Newsom is. Newsom isn't here. Here was a woman in a miniskirt doing panel on Carson in the 70s. He's further than. Here he goes. I'm telling you, Bill. Really? Yes.
Bill Burr
Maybe it's just a flex on how flexible he is.
Adam Carolla
I'm telling you, Obama does the deep one.
Bill Burr
I mean, Chris Christie couldn't do it.
Adam Carolla
No.
Bill Burr
Oh, no.
Adam Carolla
I mean, Pritzker and Chris Christie. No. I mean, if you see Obama. If you see Newsom, Justin Trudeau deep. I think if you saw pictures of them ten years ago, you wouldn't see the deep cross.
Bill Burr
You think Obama does it?
Adam Carolla
Obama does the deep cross, too.
Bill Burr
Yeah, Obama.
Adam Carolla
He's signaling that he's progressive, but he's centrist.
Bill Burr
And he's very. I always thought he was. I mean, I'm a big fan.
Adam Carolla
I think he may be, but I think he thinks his base or who he's talking to is not that he.
Bill Burr
Did get more leftist after he left office. I mean, the party in general did. I mean, Biden was much to the left of the Obama administration.
Adam Carolla
Biden administration, yes, I agree. But then Clinton was, you know, I mean, when you. When they pull these clips up of these guys talking about immigration from 20 years ago, it just.
Bill Burr
I never saw a picture of Clinton crossing his legs because he was always getting blown.
Adam Carolla
He was getting blown at the time.
Bill Burr
And the girl was blocking.
Adam Carolla
Right.
Bill Burr
So I think that said something.
Adam Carolla
No, he didn't want to crush her hat by.
Bill Burr
Okay, well I I learned so much.
Adam Carolla
Oh, you're going to see Bill.
Bill Burr
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Adam Carolla
Oh, wow. Congrats.
Bill Burr
Congrats. I love it when you get so old, they, like, congratulate you for being alive.
Adam Carolla
Yeah. And you walked here.
Bill Burr
Congratulate you. So, yeah, so it's. I. To me, it's a. You know, any year that ends in six is a big year. New decade starts, you almost feel younger because now you have a zero at the end of the second.
Adam Carolla
That's right. But really, you're in overtime. But you thought.
Bill Burr
Not quite. Not in this country.
Adam Carolla
No, no, no.
Bill Burr
Russia. I would be.
Adam Carolla
Yeah.
Bill Burr
That's why I'm not Russian.
Adam Carolla
I think that if Trump. I think ultimately, you know, people care about gas prices and egg prices and, you know, stability, their paycheck and affordability and, like, basic stuff. You know, can you afford a house and stuff like that? And I think if. If Trump comes through with all that stuff, then I think. I think most of America will sort of be okay with it. I don't think the Democrats are going to be okay with it because they're going to sort of agitate. And I think essentially the plan is chaos and agitation and then a sort of a. Don't you want this to stop? And most people do. And it's. It's actually.
Bill Burr
Do you think it's the Democrats who are agitating?
Adam Carolla
I do. Really? Well.
Bill Burr
I mean, there's some agitating on the right. Come on. I mean, ICE is agitating.
Adam Carolla
Right.
Bill Burr
But even they're admitting it now.
Adam Carolla
But they go to states and municipalities where they just go do their job, and there isn't shots and bottles.
Bill Burr
They do. And I always like to look from, you know, as a history major, like, what will the historians say when they write about this in a hundred years? Well, first of all, a lot of shit will have happened. So it'll only get a paragraph, and that paragraph will probably begin with. Because the Biden administration went so far with letting in a liberal act, illegal immigrants. There was a backlash that followed in the Trump. And then blah, blah, blah, and all his excesses there. So everything, every action is a reaction. We have to acknowledge that. But we are living in the present. Okay? And in the present, I mean, I said this to Senator Kennedy on The show last week, you're gonna get the dog shit kicked out of you in the midterms. Cuz this is not what people voted for. Trump's down with. With all the people who he won back to degrees they didn't think possible when he won in 2024. I mean, did better with minorities and Hispanics and young people. They've all went like, oh, well, you blew it. So I don't think, to me that's not even. I mean, I would bet the House on that, that the Democrats are going to win big in the midterms.
Adam Carolla
I think what people want sort of micro and macro is they don't want chaos. And if there's chaos, they'll vote to stop the chaos. And anyone who's been married will tell you, like, look, she's wrong, I don't disagree with all this shit, but just turn the page. I just don't want to deal with, with the chaos. And so I think that's kind of Democratic strategy, which is the chaos will end when we get rid of this guy or when we're in charge. I do think they're causing the chaos, but I think it's part of a strategy and I think it's a good strategy. I think it's what's gonna win.
Bill Burr
I know someone who got divorced recently and I was, as always with married people, shocked to hear it because married people are geniuses at hiding it until it's announced. And she said, when we stop fighting, that's when you know it's over. And I thought that was really so. Not that I've ever been married, but I certainly know that feeling.
Adam Carolla
Like now there is a.
Bill Burr
When the woman stops fighting, it's like, okay, you're not even worth fighting with.
Adam Carolla
It's like when the football coach stops yelling at you, that's the bad part because he's lost, right. He doesn't find any potential left in you. He doesn't think you could be a better player than you are. Like when you get ignored, that's when you should worry.
Bill Burr
Is that what happened in your marriage?
Adam Carolla
No, I don't. My marriage is weird. I didn't. There wasn't, you know, the stuff you fight over in a marriage, you know, if they did the list of the top five things couples fight over, you know, money.
Bill Burr
Money is number one by far.
Adam Carolla
Not an argument, you know.
Bill Burr
No. They have surveys about it.
Adam Carolla
Yeah, Money, right. How to raise the children, you know, that's two.
Bill Burr
That's number two.
Adam Carolla
Yeah. Infidelity, you know what I mean? Like there's all the sort of top things people fight over.
Bill Burr
Lack of affection.
Adam Carolla
That could have cracked my top 10.
Bill Burr
No, I'm saying that's on their list.
Adam Carolla
Yeah, yeah, that's the.
Bill Burr
From both sides.
Adam Carolla
We didn't really have the stuff that most people have, which is peculiar, you.
Bill Burr
Know, you didn't have any of that.
Adam Carolla
We never fought about money or how we're gonna raise the kids or who's cooking my meals or lack of affection. Anything that could. We didn't fight over that either. But that's ultimate issue.
Bill Burr
I bet you did. You didn't say it, but, like. Because men and women define affection very differently.
Adam Carolla
Yes, that's true.
Bill Burr
Right.
Adam Carolla
No, it's true. I mean, what I do is I do things for women like, I built you this gazebo. They go, I don't care. They don't stroke my hair.
Bill Burr
Exactly.
Adam Carolla
Yeah, I know, I get it. It's a flawed relationship from jump street because we're speaking two different languages under the same roof, essentially.
Bill Burr
Usually that is. I mean, you can find your way out of it. Thank you, Jesus. But I mean, that is the norm. Men are from Mars, women are from Venus. That whole thing, and that's a key part of it, is that a man's idea of affection is a blowjob. You know, between the 11 o' clock news and when the late night shows come on.
Adam Carolla
Right.
Bill Burr
A woman's idea of affection is, you know, three days of listening or something. You know, it's just. It's just crazily different.
Adam Carolla
Well, I mean, we are very different. And I think part of the fix we're in from a society standpoint is trying to pretend like we're not. For like the last 20 years, you know, women should have careers, go to work and for. They don't need kids. They define them. And they certainly.
Bill Burr
We shouldn't say they should have careers, but they certainly can, right?
Adam Carolla
No, everyone can have everything. But I feel like we're trying to talk women out of an imperative that has not been healthy for them.
Bill Burr
There was a conservative kicker, Harrison Butger, for the Chiefs.
Adam Carolla
Yes.
Bill Burr
Who was destroyed over this. Not destroyed. So he lost his job. Cuz he can still kick good and good. And I defended him. And I remember starting out saying, I have nothing in common with this guy. He's a super Christian, you know, he's whole about the family and the wife and having kids and blah, blah, blah. And all he was saying was like, you know, whatever. Like my people, like, hey, shout out to the ladies who want to have kids. It's like, okay, that's your view. And then they just. There was some, I think it was the ESPYs and people got on stage and was like, everybody here should be like happy to be here except for you. And they literally pointed him out by name in the crowd, that kind of thing. That makes me fucking hate the far left assholes who do that and their fucking bad attitude. That's just his view. And you know, a woman once said to me, that is women's liberation too. If you want to have children, if that's your goal in life, if that's what you think you were put on earth for and you don't want to go to an office, that's liberation too. You should be able to do that without being shamed for it. And you know, this is a lot of the country who thinks this way. Like have kids, meet a football player and settle down. I mean, fucking Taylor Swift is always going out with these gay English guys and then she meets a fucking man.
Adam Carolla
Meet from America and she's happy.
Bill Burr
Okay, that's not everybody, but obviously that's some people. And don't shame them.
Adam Carolla
Well, she was going out with the electric cars and then she got the Dodge Ram and now she's happy with the gun rack.
Bill Burr
We'll be right back. That's great. Was doing an old fashioned show that would have been a great place to take the commercial break. Such a great line.
Adam Carolla
Well, thanks. And yes, I completely agree with you. And it, it drives me nuts when people. But I. It drove me nuts when during COVID you were talking about exercise and losing weight and eat and no sugar, no sugar. And everyone was trying to assassinate you crazy person. And he's just saying diet and exercise. Why does that make him the best?
Bill Burr
But I also was saying that what they didn't do, shame on them was ever have the balls to say to Americans who were dying, the things you're dying from are old age, which you can't do anything about, and obesity, which you can, but we're too fucking scared to say to you, if Ozempic had come along a couple of years earlier, they could have been there. But we were still in the you can be healthy at any weight insanity.
Adam Carolla
We were in the Lizzo fat stage.
Bill Burr
Lizzo looks great in her bikini. I remember seeing that headline. And you know what? Beauty's in the eye of the beholder. You can think, Lizzo looks great in a bikini. I'm a little different.
Adam Carolla
You cannot not drive that Ram truck. You cannot.
Bill Burr
No, some people do, but science is not in the eye of the beholder.
Adam Carolla
I agree.
Bill Burr
From the people who are like, we're the science people, but him, the science.
Adam Carolla
Well, listen. And doctors traditionally have told you the same thing for the last 40 years. They'd go, quit smoking, lose weight. Now they're just, quit smoking. And you do you well.
Bill Burr
And now they say, quit smoking and do Ozempic.
Adam Carolla
Right?
Bill Burr
Because suddenly the body positivity thing. Oh, I don't remember ever. Yeah, you said it all the time. Now you don't say it because you have Ozempic. So you can actually do what I was saying all along, which is lose weight.
Adam Carolla
Right.
Bill Burr
Because the body is not listening to your nonsense. The body is following what the body follows, which is biology.
Adam Carolla
I have an Ozempic issue that I'm curious.
Bill Burr
Oh, I got many.
Adam Carolla
If you agree with it or not. I have a problem with it in that. And most people go, well, so what? You know, you lose the weight. It's important. Oprah tells you it's a genetic thing, and you gotta do it. You gotta listen. Why do we listen to Oprah? But all right, she's going to tell you, whatever. I have a problem. That's not about weight. It's more about discipline. I believe that an important part of life is discipline. And everybody I know who's successful has discipline. They. And everyone historically who's ever been successful, they get up, they do their homework, they show up.
Bill Burr
There are exceptions. And they're called musicians.
Adam Carolla
Right, Right.
Bill Burr
Musicians do not need discip.
Adam Carolla
They don't. But listen, they don't even have to.
Bill Burr
Go on stage nearly at the hour that they said they were going to.
Adam Carolla
That is.
Bill Burr
And people still put up with it. They can show up three hours fucking late because they were watching a football game that they did not want to miss.
Adam Carolla
Yes, Axl Rose can show up that late. That is true.
Bill Burr
He's hardly the only.
Adam Carolla
That is true. But. But at some point, they sat in their basement and practiced the guitar for 11 hours a day.
Bill Burr
Yeah, they did.
Adam Carolla
And they had that. And now they can do it drunk and late, but they can still. There was a discipline. And to me, discipline is super important in life.
Bill Burr
It really helps.
Adam Carolla
It helps kids, it helps adults. Everything good out of life sort of comes from delayed gratification and dishonest discipline. And diet and exercise is really the daily discipline reminder. If you really think about, you know, if you think about, I'm climbing Mount Everest. All right? But that's a once in a lifetime discipline, you know, Or I'm going to get my pilot's license or some other thing that's a discipline or there's boot camp in the Marines, but diet. Every single day you wake up and you go, God, I'd love some Pop Tarts. And then a little voice in your head goes, no, no, no, no, no, don't do it. Don't do it. You know what I mean? And that's you exercising discipline.
Bill Burr
And do you keep pop charts in the house?
Adam Carolla
No, I would never. I wouldn't bring them in the house. But I will tell you this and one more reason to hate.
Bill Burr
Do you keep pop charts in the house? I want answers to your questions, God damn it.
Adam Carolla
Just the fruity ones, never the chocolates.
Bill Burr
These are the hard hitting questions that you get on this show.
Adam Carolla
I'll take you, Bill.
Bill Burr
Do you keep Pop Tarts in the house?
Adam Carolla
Not like you're ever going to have any kids. But one more reason not to have kids is Pop Tarts will be in the house. And when you have kids, you open the pantry and you see a line of Pop Tarts and breakfast cereals and cookies and s' mores and you just go, oh, my God. And then you open the, you open the fridge and it's all the pizzas and Italian takeout and pasta and all the carbs and all the Fruity Pebbles. Fruity. It's all there.
Bill Burr
I had Fruity Pebbles in my pantry once.
Adam Carolla
Well, that, that's not. That's my kids.
Bill Burr
That was my girlfriend.
Adam Carolla
Yes, yes, that's the kids in the pot. That's not.
Bill Burr
Okay.
Adam Carolla
So I open. You open your. You open the fridge at night and you'll find a whole pizza in there that they ate, you know, half of. Or.
Bill Burr
And then you can get away with it because.
Adam Carolla
No, they can. But you're there, right? And you, you had a drink and you're starting to look at those pop darts in a real loving way, and then a point in your brain kicks in and he goes, no, no, don't. Don't do it.
Bill Burr
Right?
Adam Carolla
Do it. And that's the same thing that Sundays, do another 10 minutes on the treadmill, right? You're working, right?
Bill Burr
You're.
Adam Carolla
You're doing the monologue for your show and you're tired and you want to watch tv. But no, no, no, no, no. Let's give it a little more time. You got a book, there's a date. It's gotta be published.
Bill Burr
Never phoned in one minute. One minute. I've never phoned in one minute of Politically incorrect real time. 33 years on TV that you can't get me on.
Adam Carolla
No, I. Absolutely.
Bill Burr
But once in a while I do, you know. Yes, you're right, mostly. But what I usually tell myself in those moments is I know you want to, like, give in to the, you know, short term, save it for when you really need it.
Adam Carolla
Right.
Bill Burr
Cause sometimes you do really need it.
Adam Carolla
Right?
Bill Burr
Right. Sometimes you have to give in. And it is the right thing to do to have the Pop Tart.
Adam Carolla
Right.
Bill Burr
Said it. Sometimes it's the right thing to have the Pop Tart. Well, what I'm saying, this show covers.
Adam Carolla
It all, is the diet is an everyday sort of exercise. It's gravity, it's always on top of you and it never goes away. And you don't know how many times a day you discipline yourself to go. I mean, how many. I can't tell you how many. I work with young people, you know, and I'm there during the day and they go, we're going to the habit. Or we're going to In N Out Burger. We're doing a lunch run. You want anything, boss? And I go, fuck, yes, I do. That's what my brain thinks. Like, I want a fucking double double and fries, smothered and shit. And I go, no, no, I'm good.
Bill Burr
I'm in a restaurant, the waiter says, would you like a drink to start? Right, yeah, I'd like it. Right. But I'm not going to order it.
Adam Carolla
Right.
Bill Burr
Because I don't drink. Except here.
Adam Carolla
And then dessert. Me too. That's why I'd appreciate not taking three years off because I need a pop. But no, and then dessert, we got key lime pie. And you're like, ah, but you know, so I think Ozempic is great for weight loss but bad for discipline.
Bill Burr
You're so right. I've said I made the same point as much as I can. And boy, of all the third rails you can touch in America, this is the one that they just cannot accept. You cannot be honest about obesity. And it's like, I'm always. First of all, I never do, like, the cheap jokes about it. And believe me, those jokes are submitted. I could. I'm just trying to state the facts and say it outright. And I remember, you know, James Corden, you remember that when he went after me and you probably defended me, you know, you have been before I get too stoned to forget to mention this. You've been so supportive of our little enterprise here and we appreciate it so much.
Adam Carolla
Well, you're telling the truth and you're being.
Bill Burr
Yeah, as are you. I mean, it's just. It's just. But it's very appreciated because, you know, you know, it's so hard to not be on one of the extremes.
Adam Carolla
Yes.
Bill Burr
To not have a team. I mean, it just really sucks. And especially in this town where everyone's on one team and it's not. I mean, as I always say to my WOKE friends, we voted for the same person. You're just why she lost.
Adam Carolla
Right.
Bill Burr
And they do not like that.
Adam Carolla
Right.
Bill Burr
They are very exclusionary.
Adam Carolla
Yes.
Bill Burr
You know, they really just don't want to breathe the same air if you're not exactly what the group think.
Adam Carolla
Yes.
Bill Burr
Which is while they're not that bright.
Adam Carolla
I know. And it's such. It's counterintuitive to me because I always feel like you should be looking for things you agree on, not looking for things you disagree on. And it just makes life so much easier and so much better. And it's almost like saying, look, we'd like to go out to dinner. Let's not try to figure out what food you hate and I love. Let's try to figure out the food we both love and let's go enjoy ourselves. And it's pretty easy to do because if you think about most people who you may disagree with, or maybe I disagree with, it's not 10 out of 10 things. It's we agree on 8 out of 10 things and maybe we have a disagreement about 2 out of 10 things. People say to me all the time, oh, you're Republican and right leaning. I go, listen, I don't own a gun. I'm not religious at all. I'm for abortion and pot smoking and everything. How right can I be?
Bill Burr
You've put your finger on the thing that makes me so incensed about the WOKE and the far left, which is this, that they want to characterize people. You, me, Barry Weiss, you know, who's a lesbian, and Jewish. Things that used to, like, be our. We need no further credentials to let you know that we are certainly not conservatives. We're not right wingers. We're not whatever you think. And yet it's never enough for them. It's never enough that we're just not willing to go along with your insanity. That doesn't make us conservatives.
Adam Carolla
Right. No, I agree. I agree. Barry's great. And there's many people that way. And again, it's interesting because they feel compelled to put you somewhere. And if you don't conform and identity part of it doesn't work. Yes. Then they have identity. They have an issue with it. But I think. Well, first off, here's the thing. Imagine if you had to conform. I mean, imagine if Covid came around and you just had to go in. I did all in on all of it.
Bill Burr
I did have to conform. I didn't want the vaccine at all. Not that I'm against all vaccines, just I didn't think I needed that one. But I had to have it. I couldn't have continued my life.
Adam Carolla
Right.
Bill Burr
They wouldn't have let me do the show and I had to do it here. I did it in this room.
Adam Carolla
Well, that's basically what I'm saying. Let's talk about the vaccine. The vaccine came around in Covid came around and I have twins and at the time, boy, girl with the fucking pop Tarts. God damn it. And There were like 14, you know, 14. There were 14 at the time of COVID And I had at the time elderly parents. And so people would come to me and they'd go, what about the vaccine? And I would go, well, my elderly mom and my elderly dad should get the vaccine and my kids shouldn't get the vaccine. And they go, so you're against vaccines? And it's like, can we have a little fucking nuance here, you idiots?
Bill Burr
That is such a perfect microcosm of reasonableness to me. Right. Like, yes, 14 and 94 are different.
Adam Carolla
Yes.
Bill Burr
And if you don't see that, you are not the science people.
Adam Carolla
No, you're actually anti science. Because my 14 year olds don't need it at all, because not at all health. They're healthy, thin and active, and my elderly parents do. And so that's where I come down on this. Why is that an issue? I don't get why that's even a thing. Why would you even say anything about it?
Bill Burr
No, that's such a. It's like the perfect example to prove why we. You know, I say this like we should, like we're going to do anything. I say we should, but we should come to the middle where there is always to literally every problem that seems so intractable. There really is some pretty easy. If people would just stop being so extreme. Middle ground, grand bargain. We used to have grand bargains in this country where they would. Each side would come to the table and they would understand we're not going to get everything. You know, we're gonna get Greenland, but we're not gonna actually own it with the deed. Right, Right. Come on. I mean, look, is he the first guy to ever suggest we should have Greenland? No, he's not. I mean, so there's that side, like. And I always bitch about the media. It's like you never read the whole story in either organ. You have to read something from both sides to get the full story right. So like, I never read in the. Or read in the left press that. No, he's not the first president to even suggest this. Like, presidents have thought about Greenland before.
Adam Carolla
Yes.
Bill Burr
Okay. But then of course, it's insane to say we're going to take it by force. That was crazy. But, you know, Greenland. Is it the craziest idea anybody has ever had? No. And could it be super valuable? Yes. Is it worth, like making the whole world hate us? No. You know, again, there's always just a middle ground. Even on something like Greenland, which, by the way, before he came along, I'd never been thinking about.
Adam Carolla
No, I agree.
Bill Burr
He does, but maybe we should have. Maybe we should have. That also should be on the table. Maybe we should have.
Adam Carolla
I agree. I don't, you know, I don't know if there's a. You know, I don't. You know, Trump has. Well, there he has like, he has bunches of different ideas. He has, you know, let's make Canada the 51st state. But I think he's just talking, you know what I mean? Like, I don't know that he really thinks that. Then he has stuff like, let's move the embassy from Tel Aviv to, you know, wherever in Israel.
Bill Burr
Jerusalem. Jerusalem. Which every president had on his desk. They just pocket vetoed it for administration after administration. It always should have happened. And he did it right. And I make no apologies for giving him complete credit for doing the right thing that everybody said they were gonna do and then they didn't have the balls to do.
Adam Carolla
But the left said, the Middle east is gonna be on fire if you do it.
Bill Burr
Nothing happens.
Adam Carolla
And nothing happens. Right? So there's a lot.
Bill Burr
It's been the Jewish capital since a thousand A.D. a thousand B.C.
Adam Carolla
Right. So. So there's the stuff he does do that everyone says is never gonna work, but it does. And then there's the stuff he doesn't do that he probably never was gonna do. But most interestingly enough, I guess with Trump is he brings up a lot of stuff where you go, I never thought of that. I never thought about Greenland.
Bill Burr
I always call him president. I've got an idea. There's just not anything he surveys that he doesn't think he can fix. Whether it's the ballroom, the lack of at the. Which, by the way, I don't give a shit about either way or The Kennedy center or NATO or Greenland or, you know, credit card rates are too high.
Adam Carolla
No, but he does do a thing, like sometimes where he goes, why don't we take Palestine and make it into a golf resort and have beautiful. It'll be like Miami beach, you know. And I go, you know, everyone's first impulses, this is outrageous. And then the next one is like, I don't know, maybe there's something there.
Bill Burr
You know, of course he's always over the top, the way he describes anything. But the idea that Gaza could have always been Abu Dhabi, which is not a golf resort, but which is a very successful Western, shall we say, influenced culture. Still a Middle Eastern country, obviously, that is rich and doing well and the citizens are prosperous. Other people have said that for decades. Gaza could have been that Israel gave it back. Gave it back. It wasn't a negotiation. It was like, okay, you know what? You take it. And what did they do? They imported missiles from Iran and built tunnels and did nothing but try to destroy Israel. That's what they did with their independence. That is not the fault of Zionists or anybody else in the world but them. Yes, that's what they did from 2005 when they had it all to their own. They could have made it Abu Dhabi. No, it shouldn't be Miami beach either. Look, Miami beach itself is too much for me. I once thought about moving to Miami beach when the pollution here got so bad I couldn't see the sun for a week. But I pulled back. Well, here's something no one tells you. When you buy a car, it's not done costing you money, money, ever. One minute it's running fine, the next minute a dashboard light comes on and suddenly you're googling what the genie lamp looking symbol means. We've all been there. Standing in a repair shop, hearing the mechanic give you a laundry list of fixes at too high of a price. That's why Car Shield actually makes sense. Car Shield helps cover expensive car repairs and connects you with asexual certified mechanics. Nationwide, they've got 24, 7 roadside assistance, courtesy towing, even rental car options. So when your car gives up on life, you don't have to. Their plans are month to month with low deductibles, which means you're not locked into anything or wiped out when something breaks. And considering they've been doing this for over 20 years, covering more than 2 million vehicles, they're clearly doing something right. Plus, they have an A rating from the BBB and are rated a USA Today's top place to work in 2026. Look, one of my producers swears by vehicle protection plans and this is what he uses because surprises are great at birthday parties, less so on the freeway. Make a decision your wallet will love with car sheets. Right now, Car Shield is offering our listeners 20 off with the code randomarshield.com visit carshield.com to lock in your 2026 prediction.
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Adam Carolla
Yeah, no, I get it. They created what they're living in and I don't know why that's so controversial. I don't know why we are so energized with that.
Bill Burr
I have a list of like 30 important things that Trump has done in the first year that I am against and that I do not like. But his idea, his just sort of macro 30,000ft idea that Western civilization is the civilization we should defend and that it is under attack and that Israel is the front line in that fight. Is right.
Adam Carolla
Yes.
Bill Burr
And I am aligned with that point of view. Does he carry it out the way I would like? No, he carries nothing out the way I would like. But I can't deny that that's the truth, too. Western civilization, I believe in it.
Adam Carolla
Yes.
Bill Burr
The elements of it that we, that everyone in this country, not everyone, but lots of people, just take for granted your free speech and your right to wear what you want and be who you want and love who you want. This is not everywhere in the world. And this Civilization that you seem to want to promote to this status of being the downtrodden people who deserve our most heartfelt sympathy. Well, that's also the civilization that is most oppressive to women and gay people and other people that are sort of important to your coalition. I thought.
Adam Carolla
Well, I think of it this way, which is America is constantly comparing itself to some civilization that never existed.
Bill Burr
Some.
Adam Carolla
Utopian, you know, civilization. And it's really, I mean, it's really this because, you know, it's like, you know, we invented slavery. We were the only country in the world that ever engaged in this and stuff. And it's.
Bill Burr
I gotta stop you because there are people listening to this. I hope not many. Cause we have a very smart audience who heard you say sarcastically, we invented slavery. And they were. Yeah, we did.
Adam Carolla
Yeah.
Bill Burr
Cause there are lots of people who think that.
Adam Carolla
Right? Okay, so we didn't. Every nation and every civilization had slaves. And we were probably late to the slave war.
Bill Burr
Wasn't even really usually about race because they did it with people because travel was so difficult. Who lived near them?
Adam Carolla
Right.
Bill Burr
Who looked like them?
Adam Carolla
Everybody's involved with this. And we had a war to stop. And so all we can do is sort of compare ourselves to civilizations that either exist now or before. So it's almost like saying, you know, it's like saying, oh, you know the Seattle Seahawks, 13 and 3 or 14 and 3 or whatever. Big whoop. What about this team that never existed that went 170 for the last thousand years and won every Super Bowl? It's like no team has done that that you can compare yourself to other teams in the league.
Bill Burr
Didn't The Dolphins go 170 and they.
Adam Carolla
Went, they went, I think 140 or something. Maybe it was before the 17 game season. Oh, maybe with the playoffs.
Bill Burr
I think it was a 14 game season.
Adam Carolla
14 game season, then playoffs and whatever. Yes, one team ran the table one time.
Bill Burr
I'm just saying don't on Don Shula, Douglas Presley or Pop Tarts or Larry.
Adam Carolla
Zanka when you're here, right? Never. But one team did it once. It's been six years. So here's what I'm saying. We don't compare ourselves to a team that never existed, that never lost the super bowl and never lost a game. We have to compare ourselves to other teams in the league. And we are essentially the Pittsburgh Steelers that's done a lot of winning and had won a bunch of Super Bowls or maybe the 49ers or whatever it is. And then other places are the Cleveland Browns and they've Never won a Super bowl. And they don't have. They don't have more than 500 type seasons. There are always deficits. But the whole point is, why are we comparing ourselves to teams that never existed?
Bill Burr
Or to put it another way, have we not lived up to our ideals? Of course we have not. We're humans and compromises have to be made. But. But the ideals that everybody around the world, including those who shit on us, want us to live up to, we created, right? We created those ideals. Could we get a little credit for trial by jury? A little credit for equal rights for minorities, freedom of the press? These things weren't, like, given to us when they were, you know, in 2001, throwing the apes and throwing the bone up in the air. They had to be one. Hard, hard winning fights, hard battles that we had to undertake to get to these places. People didn't just come along.
Adam Carolla
There's also kind of a bottom line, which is if we're as. Whatever as you guys all say we are, why is everyone trying to get here? And if we're so oppressive to minorities and people of color and people who. Why are they the number one group who's trying to get into this country? You do the math. I mean, there's a. There's a.
Bill Burr
There's a lack of perspective. My complaint is just. It's never that, you know, we. I'm not saying you don't study slavery, of course. Even when I was a kid, we studied slavery and we were told it was bad. Did we obsess about it? No. Maybe we should have a little more. But, I mean, I was in 8th grade history class. I remember this. With a conservative teacher. I remember this guy. I remember my parents didn't especially like him. They thought he was, and he was. But of course, in those days, they didn't put that out very much in the classroom. But Even as an 8th grade kid, I could kind of read between the lines. I remember there was a demonstration about the Vietnam War, and he kind of let us know. He took a dim view of that. Okay, fine. But we didn't get too political. But even with this guy, I got it. Slavery bad.
Adam Carolla
I saw Roots with my mom in North Hollywood in our.
Bill Burr
Wait, I thought your mom was never there. And now you watch Roots with her. I didn't watch Roots with my mom.
Adam Carolla
Her mom, she never left the house, so she was always there. She just didn't have basic cable. Wait a second.
Bill Burr
Adam Carolla. I feel like I have just been taken in by a sob story and now you tell me you let it slip because you're drunk that you eat Pop Tarts and you watched Roots with your mom.
Adam Carolla
That's right.
Bill Burr
Tell me about it. Tell me about that experience.
Adam Carolla
I think Alex Haley, probably a seven part series.
Bill Burr
Yes.
Adam Carolla
An odd number series.
Bill Burr
I remember it so vividly. I was in college. It certainly got on everybody's radar. It was January. I remember it aired in January when everyone was inside, nobody was out, it was freezing cold. And there it was, this groundbreaking. And it was great. And I remember it had in it an actor who was one of my favorite actors because he was the star of Combat. He later won.
Adam Carolla
Oh, LeVar Burton.
Bill Burr
No, no, no, that's a joke. LeVar Burton could have been Vic Morrow.
Adam Carolla
Vic Morrow.
Bill Burr
Vic Morrow, who was the star of Combat.
Adam Carolla
Yes.
Bill Burr
The greatest show ever, which Steven Spielberg made into the greatest movie ever called Saving Private Ryan. The greatest combat episode ever.
Adam Carolla
Yes.
Bill Burr
But Vic Morrow, unfortunately later lost his head filming a movie. Literally.
Adam Carolla
That was the craziest thing with the helicopter crash. Crash, two kids.
Bill Burr
Well, it wasn't a crash. The Blade cut his head.
Adam Carolla
Well, yeah, no, I mean the helicopter crashed and the Blade cut his head off. It was also holding two children. Two.
Bill Burr
But they survived, right?
Adam Carolla
No, no, no.
Bill Burr
They died too.
Adam Carolla
Would you think it's possible for him to hold two 4 year olds and have a helicopter blade go across his chest?
Bill Burr
Anyway, let's get back to Roots, the subject you're trying to avoid because it exposes your lie about your bad childhood.
Adam Carolla
I watched it with my mom and the. She just looked at me and she went, do you see how bad we are? Do you see what happens?
Bill Burr
I see a parent. I see a parent caring for you.
Adam Carolla
Yes, you do.
Bill Burr
There. That's what I see. The parent caring and ask and trying to teach you a lesson by watching Roots with you.
Adam Carolla
The lesson was learned.
Bill Burr
What was it?
Adam Carolla
We are evil. We have a horrible history and this is all our fault. And that's the message that stuck with me. But I learned it as you learned it. This thing where it's like they're trying to erase history. It's like, what do you mean? I'm totally aware of this. I feel like everyone is aware of it. And I don't feel like there's anyone who can escape it at this point.
Bill Burr
I'm not sure that all the time in Mississippi they were teaching that Lincoln's birthday was a great thing.
Adam Carolla
Right.
Bill Burr
I'm not sure about that. And they did call it. They did not call it the Civil War. They called. Called it the War of northern aggression.
Adam Carolla
In Mississippi, I believe in the South.
Bill Burr
On the south there was that. You can, you know, please go to the stacks, look at the microfiche. Am I behind the times on this? Okay.
Adam Carolla
No, no. I was looking at microfiche earlier today. Yeah. I pulled my Stutz Bearcat into the library and I got my raccoon coat out and I said, do you know what?
Bill Burr
Oh, it was after that, I said.
Adam Carolla
22 scoop do to the library. No, no, no.
Bill Burr
We're talking about the 1980s. Yeah, I know, but. Yeah, but I think you will find that in the southern states there is a different view of it, but in general, we acknowledge it. And what I was trying to tell, for example, Marshawn lynch was here recently, and I don't feel like he really had been apprised of the idea that slavery had occurred all over the world throughout history. You know, And I tried to make the case that humans are not good people. It's just not whites that are not good people. Humans are not good people. No, I mean, obviously they all basically act the same.
Adam Carolla
Africans were very involved with the slave trade.
Bill Burr
They're very involved.
Adam Carolla
Right. And so we have a narrative, and the narrative is, is one that paints a kind of a picture that is not totally accurate. And by the way, if I was Marshawn lynch, and this is kind of my problem, I guess, with the media, which is if somebody said to me, look, cops shoot black people and they shoot white people and they sort of equal opportunity offenders, then I would go, okay. But if the narrative is black people have a target on their back and cops are gunning for them and they're not welcome in this society and there's systemic racism, then that would be very agitating to a black person. Well, I would assume it's also what.
Bill Burr
I call a zombie lie.
Adam Carolla
Right.
Bill Burr
Was it true? Of course it was true. Could you find it true in pockets of America today? Day? Possibly.
Adam Carolla
What percentage of cop shootings or cop anything fatalities or whatever would go away if the person just 100% complied with whatever the orders were? Roll the window down or hands on the wheel, whatever, whatever people think is demeaning or beyond the scope of his ability? I contend they would all go away.
Bill Burr
I will give you that point of.
Adam Carolla
Almost every bad cop killing that we hate that if the person white or black, because we've seen white now in Minneapolis, if the person just went, whatever you need, okay, I'll do it. It would end tomorrow.
Bill Burr
I will give you that point.
Adam Carolla
And there could still be bad cop.
Bill Burr
Shootings, but I'm going to give you that. Give me this point.
Adam Carolla
Okay.
Bill Burr
Okay. Here's the deal. Here's our grand bargain. Our grand bargain. I give you that bargain, that point. Yes. If you don't fuck with the cops, you will probably not get shot. Also, the cops have to have different training. So that job one isn't. If you don't respect me to the utmost degree, I get to fucking shoot you. A lot of them just have a bad attitude. That's what we saw with the one this last week in Minneapolis, this Alex Preddy guy. Okay. What he did basically was not conform to doing what you. Exactly what you. And yes, you should. But also it can't be means for an execution. The cops are. It attracts too many people. That job who want to be bullies, give people a badge. It's a license to be an asshole. Now some of that is gonna have to get in. That's just the job. Okay?
Adam Carolla
Yes.
Bill Burr
But you could have training that tries to ameliorate that issue, that problem, that if you just don't do exactly what I say, I have the right to fucking kill you. That's gotta go away. The sign on the door says to protect and serve. That refers to us.
Adam Carolla
Now listen.
Bill Burr
Not you, us.
Adam Carolla
I agree. I agree. But here's where I think.
Bill Burr
Pop tart.
Adam Carolla
Pop Tart. Here's where I think you may be wrong.
Bill Burr
Not that we're two drunks.
Adam Carolla
I don't know.
Bill Burr
You are just like ranting. That's not what this show is. Two guys at the corner of the bar just ranting at each other. That's not.
Adam Carolla
Cross my legs like a straight guy.
Bill Burr
Yeah, I don't know who makes the rumors up.
Adam Carolla
I. I think there's a problem. And the problem is human nature. I don't know about training 23 year olds. If you have a gun and it's strapped your hip and some guy's calling you a pussy cocksucker for the last two hours and spitting in your face. You have a gun strapped to your neck and you played a little football in junior college. I don't know. A human being. I didn't go to high school. The guy wouldn't shoot you.
Bill Burr
So true.
Adam Carolla
So we're creating something that's unrealistic. They're going, you're saying to every asshole I went to high school with, here's a gun right now. I'm gonna stand in front of you and call you a fucking pussy and spit at you, but don't use that gun. Don't ever use that gun at Some point, I might start pushing you. But don't use the gun. But only if you see me reaching for something that might be a gun. Then you can use that gun. It's an impossibility to not do it. I've said this to people a million times. Don't look at cops as cops. Look at them as dudes with guns. And you wouldn't go up to a dude with a gun and start calling him a pussy and getting in his face and saying, his old lady's snatch stunk. He's got a gun. Just treat it like he has a gun.
Bill Burr
That's so brilliant, really, that dudes with cops are dudes with guns. That's so brilliant.
Adam Carolla
That's all they are. And they may have badges and they may have hats, but for that millisecond, they're dudes with guns. And act accordingly. And don't walk toward them screaming, shoot me or fuck you or I dare you, you. They're dudes with guns.
Bill Burr
You know what it reminds me of? Many is the time? Well, a few times I went out to a strip club with some guy who had never been there before. And like, they're s. The froth is coming out of their mouth. They think they're going to get blown in the champagne room. And my advice is always just pretend this is a regular bar.
Adam Carolla
Right?
Bill Burr
Just pretend it's a regular bar. And then if a hot chick comes up and starts talking to you, think how happy.
Adam Carolla
Right?
Bill Burr
Okay, that's happening. You're not gonna get blown in the champagne room. Or you shouldn't. If you are wearing the wrong kind of strip club, it's not gonna be good for anybody. Just be happy for what this is and not have these expectations.
Adam Carolla
Yes.
Bill Burr
So let's go to the structure.
Adam Carolla
I agree. Where's my gun?
Bill Burr
So you don't have a gun, but you would go to a strip club? Yes. You're single now?
Adam Carolla
Yeah. Well, no. I have a girlfriend. How long? She's like 5 foot 8. I don't know. Why do you care how long she Was she a marlin? Yeah.
Bill Burr
Okay. Groucho.
Adam Carolla
Very good, Groucho. How dare you demean me.
Bill Burr
Oh, no, genius. That was like a Marx Brothers movie.
Adam Carolla
That was a Marx Brothers. Yeah. I've never. I don't know that it's even a joke. How long? But yeah, because if you say, how long have you been going out? We don't get it. But you just said, how long? That's why it triggered me.
Bill Burr
It's perfect. It should be a classic Marx Brothers or something from that era. It's a joke that somebody should have.
Adam Carolla
Written in 19, I'm sure, some vaudevillian guy.
Bill Burr
I. I would think I would have been aware if they did. Sometimes.
Adam Carolla
How long is a brand new joke.
Bill Burr
Well, they just found a letter that was mailed in 1922 that got there. You know, sometimes a diamond just does stay in the rough.
Adam Carolla
All right, I will. I will take full credit for the.
Bill Burr
So how long have you been going out with this alleged girlfriend of yours?
Adam Carolla
Three years.
Bill Burr
I hear she's from Canada, which is what people say when they want to think you have a girlfriend, but you really don't.
Adam Carolla
No, she's from here. Yeah.
Bill Burr
So this was going on during your divorce?
Adam Carolla
Yeah, yeah. During the divorce, yes.
Bill Burr
Yes. Wow. That's a patient woman who's. Because usually women are turned off by a guy going through a divorce.
Adam Carolla
That's why. Yeah, no, I agree. And she's a saint that way. And, you know, divorce is like. You know, it's. It's really. Divorce is kind of an interesting metaphor because it sort of ties into all the Somali fraud and everything else, which is like. And here's why.
Bill Burr
Wait, wait, wait. Yes, we're. Now we got. We got the. I missed the recap on this streaming show. How did we get to Somali fraud?
Adam Carolla
I'll bring it home for you. Which is. The laws in California about divorce entice people to do the wrong thing and entice them to be bad and immoral.
Bill Burr
And what is the wrong thing? What is the abuse?
Adam Carolla
Well, if you say, look, I'll give you an example. Child support support. So they go, look, here are the laws in. In. In California for child support, you have to pay some exorbitant amount for child support. You know, in my case, I know it was like $19,000 a month. Like my fucking mom ever spent $19 my entire life. You know, sitting there watching a lot of fruity.
Bill Burr
A lot of fruity Pebbles, black and.
Adam Carolla
White, Zenith TV, like. So, first off, the fact that it takes 19 grand a month to raise kids is. Is insane. There should be just a set amount. You know, it's three grand. It's $25,000.
Bill Burr
It's only because.
Adam Carolla
Right? It's only because I'm rich. That's fine. But you pay 19,000 bucks a month for child support, right? And then what happens is, is, oh, one of the kids wants to fly out and look at colleges in Arizona or Seattle or something like that, and they go, who's paying for the tickets? And you go, well, take it out of the 19. And they go, no, that's not covered by the 19. And you go, I don't get it. It's child support.
Bill Burr
What is covered by the 19?
Adam Carolla
I mean like dental.
Bill Burr
Every month. It's literally every month you have dental.
Adam Carolla
No, what I'm saying is, is you go, oh, your daughter wants to go to a prom and she wants to buy a prom dress, so we're going to split the price of the prom dress. And you go, no, take it out of the 19. They go, that's not covered by the 19.
Bill Burr
I'm asking what is.
Adam Carolla
Food, shelter.
Bill Burr
I don't think I spend $19,000 on that's whole.
Adam Carolla
That's the whole point. Well, you're on oic, so.
Bill Burr
No, I'm not.
Adam Carolla
Well, that's what I heard, Bill, you're pretty high. The point is.
Bill Burr
Pretty high.
Adam Carolla
That.
Bill Burr
All right, that's undeniable.
Adam Carolla
All right, the point. The point is. I'm talking about the system, right? All right, so what's left over on the night after the month with the 19 goes into your ex wife's pocket or the other person's pocket?
Bill Burr
Pocket.
Adam Carolla
So we created a system where I pay in 19. It doesn't cover the prom dress or the flight to Arizona to look at colleges. And if there's anything left over at the end I don't get it back, it goes to your ex wife. That's a fucked up system. That's incentivizing them to spend less on the kids because it goes into their pocket. So California has tons of fucking rules that incentivize women to be immoral and do the wrong thing morally. Now you go to Minnesota and Somalis, there's a whole bunch of systems that go, look, how's your kid doing? He's fine. Do you think he's on the spectrum? I don't know. Sometimes he closes his eyes when I talk. That's good. He can get $2,400 a month. And you go, what, because he closes his eyes? Believe me, he's on the spectrum. Now go get your 2,400amonth. We incentivize people to do the wrong fucking thing in this country. And this country is not filled with bad people and it's not filled with criminals. It's filled with weak people who will do whatever they need to do. I tell people all the time, almost everyone I know, if they find a wallet on the ground and it's got an ID in it and it's got cash in it and it's Got the guy's kids pictures in it. They will return it. They'll do the right thing. If you find cash on the ground, you take it, you put it in your pocket and you keep walking. You don't turn it into the lost and found. You can't leave cash on the ground. That's what we're doing with all these centers and kids lunches and kids First Step forward and all these. Of course, there's $24 billion out the window with homelessness. We've incentivized people to do stupid. All these NGOs and nonprofits and groups that are advocates for, they're going to do this because they're human and they're going to do the wrong thing, just like people do in divorce.
Bill Burr
And it starts with the stupid idea again. The left going way too far, missing their stop on the subway and falling asleep on the train and waking up in Canarsie with the idea that we need to normalize homelessness. Defend it. Defend it like it's a marginalized group. As opposed.
Adam Carolla
There are unhoused. There are unhoused neighbors like, that are.
Bill Burr
Unhoused and we should do something about it. But the answer among liberals used to be get them under a roof, whatever it takes. As opposed to what the woke say, which is like, how dare you disturb this Protected.
Adam Carolla
They're like majestic creatures in the wild. Panda bears or something. Just stand back, give them some bamboo, let them breathe. Well, here's a point that I said on the first day when the fires hit in Malibu. I lived in Malibu. I live in Malibu. But I was evacuated and I went to a hotel room.
Bill Burr
This is the one a year ago. The fire. The big fire.
Adam Carolla
This is the big fire, yes.
Bill Burr
Do you know that I was the.
Adam Carolla
One that took down Chicago in 1911?
Bill Burr
Do you know that I was taping here with Matt Gaetz. Matt Gates, who came up from San Diego, drove through a fire to get here. And we taped right until they told us to evacuate really here. And he was charging his car in my garage. And the second, I mean, we taped right up into the moment, they said, you have to go.
Adam Carolla
Now, Matt Gaetz drives an electric car. Yes, that's the news.
Bill Burr
And drives through a fire to keep an appointment. I gotta give him that.
Adam Carolla
Well, I was evacuated from Malibu and I ended up in a hotel room. And I where in Burbank, California. And.
Bill Burr
And I, beautiful downtown Burbank, did a.
Adam Carolla
Me and Johnny Carson's ghost were in this hotel in Burbank and I did my podcast from that hotel. Room because my studio was powerless, because the winds had taken out the power lines and I had no power. But I was able to do it. And I said that morning after the fire, I said, look, first off, no permits. You guys think you're coming back with permits? You're not coming back with permits. You're not getting any permits. That's the way this city rolls. I was a contractor. You guys don't know it, but there's no permits, which I want to talk to you about. But I said at the time, I said, look, there's 5,000 people that are unhoused overnight. Overnight. There's the entire. The entire population of Malibu, the Palisades, Altadena. We're talking. There are about 5,000 structures. We're talking about.
Bill Burr
Some of them, tragically, did not even have second homes.
Adam Carolla
I know some of the folks had to go all the way to Aspen to their second, third home.
Bill Burr
Sad.
Adam Carolla
Oh, guys had to hang out with Costner.
Bill Burr
There's nothing sadder than the second home Homeless.
Adam Carolla
The. They are second homes. But I said, but Altadena is working class and, yeah, totally real. It's not Pasadena, and it's not Palisades.
Bill Burr
Even people in the Pacific Palisades.
Adam Carolla
Palisades, for sure.
Bill Burr
Some of those people bought the houses in 1950.
Adam Carolla
They're school teachers.
Bill Burr
Exactly. And they got in before it was the.
Adam Carolla
They bought a house in the Palisades for $49,000 in 1963.
Bill Burr
Exactly.
Adam Carolla
And the guy. I was a school teacher. His wife was a secretary.
Bill Burr
So it's not all people who write. It's not all Tom Hanks.
Adam Carolla
But here's the point. The point is, the fires hit last night. These people were unhoused, and they were literally homeless because their house was burned to the ground. How many of them are sleeping on the sidewalks this morning? And the answer is zero. Nobody who is literally unhoused is unhoused. So what happened? Well, they have a network. They're not fentanyl addicts. They didn't run afoul of everybody in their family and everyone in the world. When I was homeless, and I was homeless, Dr. Drew, Jimmy Kimmel, my network, like, reached out to me and said, do you want to stay in my guest house? Do you want to flop on my sofa? I have a credit card. I could stay at a hotel. Like, I have a network. I built a base. It's like, not like the home was the reason I wasn't homeless. I have a base. Everyone is homeless overnight. No one slept on the sidewalk. So it's not the homes. It's something else. It's mental. It's addiction.
Bill Burr
It's also money. The biggest difference between black and white in America is legacy wealth. That's the huge thing. The average. I don't know. I'm not going to try to quote, because I'll get it wrong. But, like, the average wealth of, like, a single black woman is very low.
Adam Carolla
Yes.
Bill Burr
And, like, the average wealth of, like, white people is, like $170,000 because of all the years and decades and centuries where we only got to accumulate wealth.
Adam Carolla
But hold on. Asians are above us and Nigerians are above them. Like, it's not all skin color. Nigerians come here. They're very successful. Asians come here. Armenians come here.
Bill Burr
But if you're talking about why people couldn't find a home when their house burned down, some of it absolutely is because you have a more. I hate the word privileged network. And, like.
Adam Carolla
But I built. Built it?
Bill Burr
Yeah, I built the network. You built it and you inherited it.
Adam Carolla
I didn't inherit it.
Bill Burr
Well, you did somewhat by being white. There is some truth in that. There is some truth in that. There is just more white wealth in America. There is a way.
Adam Carolla
There is more white wealth.
Bill Burr
Okay.
Adam Carolla
I don't know how.
Bill Burr
So when you have a tragedy, there is a lot more people who say, I have a credit card. Like, among the black community. Some of them don't even have credit.
Adam Carolla
No, no, listen. Mine built the wealth, which is I hung out with dudes who don't have anything. And I somehow met and made my way toward Dr. Drew and Jimmy Kimmel and Mark Garrigas and things like that. I made that.
Bill Burr
I know, but.
Adam Carolla
And it wasn't because I was white. It's because I moved.
Bill Burr
Moved through the system.
Adam Carolla
I know.
Bill Burr
Listen to who your friends are. That's not the average person's friend. It's certainly not the average person's friend.
Adam Carolla
No, I'm not saying it's the average person's friend.
Bill Burr
I mean, you know. And Jimmy Kimmel, you know, he's very mad at me. And I know you're close to him.
Adam Carolla
I've heard of him.
Bill Burr
I hope you tell him that, you know, I'm sorry that, you know, they got bent out of shape. I don't think I did anything wrong. We can have disagreements.
Adam Carolla
I agree.
Bill Burr
I mean, you and I don't agree on everything. Look at this clash now. And yet we're cool. Like the Republicans are always. This is the difference between the right and the left. It bugs me so much. My Tribe is supposed to be the left, but these are the people who just can't talk to you unless you're exactly there. Whereas the Republicans, they always fucking come to my show. John Kennedy from Louisiana was on last week, took his beating like a man, like they all do. And we came across lovingly and smilingly and happily. And we can disagree.
Adam Carolla
I agree.
Bill Burr
You and I aren't always completely on the same page, although we're very close. Cause we're both smart guys. But, like, I just don't get that from. And Jimmy, I'm sorry. Like, I think this is one of the nicest guys. I did a mea culpa when we exchanged emails. Not about what he was complaining about, but just saying, like, you know, sometimes I am a little brash about me when they come with the other late night guys. And I'm like, I'm not like you guys. I'm not. You could all exchange your monologues, all of you, and no one would know the difference in tone. Tone, okay.
Adam Carolla
Tone. Yeah.
Bill Burr
Whereas me, I'm not there. I'm not in on your. I don't just buy into the left wing bullshit. And I never stop making fun of the right wing bullshit at all, right? And like, if that's not good enough for you, then I think you're the asshole. And I don't think Jimmy is an asshole.
Adam Carolla
No, he's not.
Bill Burr
I think he's a great guy. And it bugs me that, you know, because of what the latest thing was, that, you know, we may never talk.
Adam Carolla
You guys should be thick as thieves and on the same page. And I'll tell you something interesting. Talking about left and talking about right and disagreements. I said to Tucker Carlson when once, and this is probably about six, seven years ago, I said, tucker, why don't you get together a network of Republican or sort of conservative. Why don't you put together your own kind of conservative network? And he said, it won't work. And I said, why not? He said, they all disagree with everything each other is saying all the time.
Bill Burr
Time.
Adam Carolla
And I said, what do you mean? He said, well, I mean, you take something like Covid, half Republican, and I don't mean Republican. I should. Conservatives are going, get the shot. Get the shot. The other going, never. It's poison. You know what I mean?
Bill Burr
Is the one who got the shot, right?
Adam Carolla
And they're constantly, you see Candace Owens and Megan Kelly and they're all like, sniping and battling Ben Shapiro and Marjorie.
Bill Burr
Taylor Greene sold this Friday.
Adam Carolla
This cabal, right, Of. Of people People constantly disagreeing and arguing all the time about everything. Said you can't get them on the same page. But he said the left, you can get them on the same page. You can get them to agree to stuff. You can get them sort of, you take Covid. I didn't hear any dissenting voices on See it. And yet you, because you are intellectually honest and you're not exactly left wing, but cnn, msnbc, even abc, they're all just ivermectin horse page.
Bill Burr
And they were just.
Adam Carolla
Fuck Joe Rogan.
Bill Burr
And they were just organs of the.
Adam Carolla
They were just organs of the government.
Bill Burr
Organs of the government, which is not their function. They're supposed to be watchdogs of the government.
Adam Carolla
Right. So.
Bill Burr
But it's so funny you say that, because I think of it as the opposite. You said, you know, the right wing. Oh, there's so much dissent. I mean, I feel like now in the last month since Minneapolis, there's been dissent on. Right. But I think in general, I think of them as like, we just whatever Trump wants, we rubber stamp. I mean, you can't tell me that Congress.
Adam Carolla
I don't mean Congress, I mean like amongst the tastemakers. You know, you're sort of Tucker Carlson's, your Candace Owens, your Ben Shapiro. You're right.
Bill Burr
They're all over the map.
Adam Carolla
They're all battling.
Bill Burr
They're fighting each other, right?
Adam Carolla
And on the left, everyone's sort of lockstep in terms of the taste makers, right?
Bill Burr
Ben Shapiro, Yamaka, Tucker Carlson, Hitler.
Adam Carolla
Right, Right.
Bill Burr
Not so bad.
Adam Carolla
Right? Right. What the fuck? But all I'm saying is, is whether you agree or disagree, at least they're being honest. Because when you hear the dissenting voices.
Bill Burr
You'Re hearing Candace Owens is honest. You think Candace Owens believes what she's saying?
Adam Carolla
That's a tough one, I gotta say. And by the way, I don't follow her. I just heard, hear the sort of rumblings. I did say to Chris Cuomo when he said to me, like, you know, do you really believe Ben Shapiro or Dennis Prager or Tucker Carls? I go, oh, they, they believe it. You can disagree with it all you want, but that's how they think. I mean, and I, I would say the exact same thing about you as I would say about Ben Shapiro. 100%. You guys believe what you believe.
Bill Burr
Absolutely. And you.
Adam Carolla
Yeah, I'm. That I, I feel that way too. I. It doesn't make him.
Bill Burr
And by the way, there's nothing you believe that you have anything to apologize for, even if someone disagrees with you. But by the way, Candace Owens, he.
Adam Carolla
May be a provocateur. Like he maybe. I mean, she is a provocateur. What I'm saying is, is she may be saying things that she knows isn't true to create something. Something. I do not think you would do that. I don't think Ben Shapiro does that. I don't think I do that. I don't think many other people do that.
Bill Burr
All I know is she's very entertaining, which can be dangerous because she has some ridiculous beliefs. Yes, but I mean, she's entertaining. When I finished listening to her, I'm over the moon. Not that we landed on it.
Adam Carolla
I do want to bring up something that I watch all the time, and I cite it and I appreciate you when you had Jane Fox on the show and you were. And so I want to tell you something about you on this show. On this show.
Bill Burr
Not that this is a show.
Adam Carolla
Yeah.
Bill Burr
Whatever this is. I would hardly call it a show. But it is entertaining.
Adam Carolla
But I want to. There's a couple things I said my entire career. I said, listen, I used to be a contractor. I used to have to pull permits. I used to have to deal with the city plan change check and all of the above. I had to deal with all of it. And I would always say, look, if you're living in Santa Monica and you have rent control apartment, good, vote the way you vote, I get it. But buy a piece of land, get a home, go to the city, try to pull a permit, and then tell me how you feel about this government because I think it's too fucking big. And you go, what? We get rent control? Yeah, you get rent control control. Go buy a piece of property, try to do a remod, go talk to the city and then tell me how you feel.
Bill Burr
Because you're doing this to your home, right?
Adam Carolla
And I've done.
Bill Burr
You were wiped out. I.
Adam Carolla
Well, I. No, I wasn't wiped out. My home is intact in Malibu. Everything around it is burnt. But my business was doing it to other.
Bill Burr
Why did your home survive?
Adam Carolla
God loves me. You should know that, Bill.
Bill Burr
No, really. Everything around you burned.
Adam Carolla
I would say 80% of what was around me burned.
Bill Burr
Did you take precautions that others didn't? Did you like kind of wet in the roof?
Adam Carolla
No, no, I didn't.
Bill Burr
I changed my roof since last year. I have a whole different roof.
Adam Carolla
I know.
Bill Burr
And I have a thing that goes in the pool.
Adam Carolla
You pump it.
Bill Burr
You shoot the pool up on the roof.
Adam Carolla
No, I did nothing in just complete luck of the Draw like the hood. The SS Hood, which was a British ship sunk, blown up by the Bismarck in World War II. And 1800 sailors went into the ground and six popped up and. Sorry. Went to the drink and six sort of camera. Six guys just floating in the ocean and 1800 dead. And you go, what did you do? And the answer is, I don't know. I just popped up. That was basically me in Malibu.
Bill Burr
Yeah, I called this club Random. Not Club Fate.
Adam Carolla
Right, Exactly.
Bill Burr
I believe in random.
Adam Carolla
Jane Fonda came on your show and you were talking to her about regulation and over regulation and red tape. And she said to you, I don't think there's enough. And I was like, I. Are you fucking nuts? And I realized she didn't know what was going on. Then you talked about your garage door. But the point is, is you got turned a little bit with your solar shack. And I said it a million times. Live in rent control. Fine, go get your own home and try to pull a permit. You'll start thinking more like me. And you try to get your solar shack permit. And that took two years.
Bill Burr
Two years while I was yelling at them on the air. This is how arrogant the government is in California. This is how bad it is when one party controls any government of either party, right? I was embarrassing them on the air for weeks and still nothing happened.
Adam Carolla
Right?
Bill Burr
Until the governor himself intervened and said, you know, this is getting embarrassed. And of course, it was a bunch of bullshit. None of it ever needed to have to happen. It wasn't even the one that bothered me the most. The one that bothered me the most was my garage door. When I moved into this house, it had a three garage door, okay? It doesn't fit three cars. I don't know what these cars are. They fit three motorcycles, right? So, okay, like, I don't live in a fucking mansion. I don't want to. I live alone, okay? I've got a wonderful house, happy to have it. No one would mistake it for like, you know, lifestyles of the Rich and Famous, okay? So I wanted to change my three car garage. Wink, wink, to what? It should be, a two car garage. This took three inspections. Inspections, right. For my. I'm just changing my garage. Why do you have to be involved in my life when I'm changing my garage? Because if it falls down on my head, that's my fault for doing it with a bad contract, right?
Adam Carolla
And now you get to rebuilding the Palisades in Malibu and what's not happening because of this?
Bill Burr
But here's the question. The new York Post, which I always loved because it kept me connected with the city of my formative years. And now it's the California Post, and you can't get the New York Post out here. So they ruined my life because I wanted the New York Post. Because, Because I grew up in New Jersey. My father commuted to New York. Okay, New York sports teams, New York radio, New York television. I was a minority owner of the New York Mets. I started my standup career in New York, started my television career in New York. I want to know about New York. It interests me. Doesn't exist anymore. So the California Post, and they printed this interview with Trump. I did one too, for the inauguration. And Trump says, well, we're gonna go in and we're gonna change the permitting laws. Now, he is obviously a guy who just pulls things out of his ass. I get the impetus to do this, like, why wouldn't you wanna do that again? He's the guy who sees a problem anywhere and he goes, I can fix that. Right, but is there any jurisdiction for the, for the, the president to override local permitting laws?
Adam Carolla
I think they're pro. I don't know about precedent, because no one cared and it never existed. And if you're building a log cabin in 1871, there's no court case on that. I, I, I think he can, because I've heard something about it. But the point is, is it's a metaphor for government and the size of government. When you can't do what you want to do on your land that you own and that you pay taxes on, and you need to ask fucking permission from them to do stuff on your land. Then we have gone across a Rubicon. We have crossed a Rubicon. And the fact that I bought a warehouse in Glendale, California, just for fun. Just for, for fun. And I wanted to put some cars in there and what have you. And I was building, like, a storage loft on it.
Bill Burr
Do you have that many cars?
Adam Carolla
I do have. I have 13 Paul Newman race cars. I have all the Paul Newman race cars.
Bill Burr
The common man, Adam Carola, speaking for John Q.
Adam Carolla
Six Pack, watching Roots, eating Pop Tarts, sitting in a Newman race car. That's it. Keeping it real.
Bill Burr
Keeping it real with my 13 cars. Go ahead.
Adam Carolla
So I went, they busted me, and they said, you got to pull a permit. Blah, blah, blah. They will walk in onto your property and tell you to stop and pull a permit. And I went in to the planning commission of the city of Glendale, and I said, I want to pull a permit to do some building on my warehouse. And the like 25 year old chick behind the counter goes, what are you going to do with that warehouse house that I bought, by the way? And I said, I'm gonna put some cars in there. And she goes, they might let you do that. And I thought they might let me.
Bill Burr
Do that with my property. It's infuriating.
Adam Carolla
It's insane. And it's infuriate.
Bill Burr
Huge.
Adam Carolla
And it's a California thing. And unfortunately it's a blue thing. It's kind of a left thing.
Bill Burr
It is.
Adam Carolla
And it's in.
Bill Burr
It is.
Adam Carolla
And they're encroaching on everything. Step back, stop making rules.
Bill Burr
I tell this Gavin every time I talk to him.
Adam Carolla
Just knock it the fuck off.
Bill Burr
Just leave people alone. And he says we're doing it, but I don't see it, to be honest. Well, also he says he's doing it when I confront him with it. But I don't see it.
Adam Carolla
No, because they're there to make rules. That's why they got into power. They like it.
Bill Burr
They like it.
Adam Carolla
What I want.
Bill Burr
That's it. They like it.
Adam Carolla
I want. You know my favorite answer from a politician is, I don't know. I'm not. I'm not in charge. Ask your dad. I don't run your house. You want to go to the beach during COVID go to the beach during COVID I'm not here to tell you.
Bill Burr
Not to do that, not to drag in more politics on this. But like this is the same issue really with children, is that parents do not want to think that anyone, including government, is above them in deciding what goes for their children. Children. And that is not the philosophy of the state of California.
Adam Carolla
Not at all.
Bill Burr
That is not. I mean, Democrats seem to be determined to die on this hill of trans. Again, there could be an easy grand bargain. I be the first one to defend trans people. It's a real thing. Not everybody was born in the body that they were supposed to be born into or however you want to put that. But there is a default setting for human beings. And to keep this secret from parents. The parent issue that we're talking about, like the personal life issue, the government too, into your personal life. It is amazing to me that Republicans can't do better in this state because I certainly know like umpteen liberals, liberals, people who vote Democratic, who complain about these things, about the parent issue, about the permitting kind of issue, about the regulation issue, taxes, like so many taxes. But my road still sucks. You know, it's like. But why do. Then why does the state stay in this mono party station?
Adam Carolla
I don't. I don't know what it is. I mean, I think there's an element of sort of fashion where we just go, oh, that's cool. There's a little Emperor's New Clothes. I mean, I definitely felt it with COVID People acted like they didn't really believe in Covid. I mean, in the sense that people had a mask on, but it was around their chin. What I'm saying is you should wear a helmet when you're riding a motorcycle, because there's a real danger. You could be concussed or worse riding a motorcycle.
Bill Burr
Even Gary Busey.
Adam Carolla
Even Gary Busey. And I've never seen anyone riding a motorcycle with a helmet under their arm. You know what I mean? Because they understand it's a real danger and they could be hurt. But I saw people with mask around their nut sack and their chin and over their head and stuff, and it's like they were trying to get along. And people in California, I've realized, get so caught up in the sort of fashion of things that they just want to get along, and they don't want to get in trouble, and they don't want to get yelled at, and they don't want to. They want to be a nail that a hammer's gonna find. So they go, no, no. Gavin Newsom's great. No, no, Karen Pass is great. Put the mask on. No, no. Get the jab. No, for sure.
Bill Burr
No.
Adam Carolla
The border. No race. No one's illegal. No one's illegal. All people are legal. Everything is love. Science is science. We're just. We're down with everything. Please leave me the fuck alone so I could go home and eat my Pop Tarts and watch reruns of Ritz.
Bill Burr
I'll just sign your petition outside of Whole Foods.
Adam Carolla
Right? Right.
Bill Burr
Just let me get out, get in my car.
Adam Carolla
I bought a smoothie for $41. I'll sign your. I just want to get to the Prius for $41.
Bill Burr
I'll sign your thing that says I hate privilege.
Adam Carolla
Right? I hate privilege.
Bill Burr
Excuse me. I've got a castle to buy in Ireland.
Adam Carolla
Right.
Bill Burr
To escape privilege.
Adam Carolla
That's right. Right. And a tea time to make.
Bill Burr
So great to have you. Always great here. I mean, what can I say? That was more fun than you can have with your pants on. Of course, I'm 70 now, so it's not such a big brag God about.
Adam Carolla
That, but that's amazing, Bill.
Bill Burr
I know.
Adam Carolla
You look great. And I will say this too no, I'm not just doing this for you, but you're getting sharper and keener and faster and more lucid and the clarity and the truth. And I think there's a part. No, I think there's a part. I'm not trying to explain, extend another seven minutes, but I think there's a part of getting older where you go, I can tell the truth. Like I have. You have FU money, which is better than F me money, which means you can say whatever the fuck you want.
Bill Burr
I sure don't have to give $19,000 to a bunch of brats, too.
Adam Carolla
But, yeah, I get it. You know how many Pop Tarts that buys? But, no, I appreciate you. And. Incredible.
Bill Burr
I appreciate everything.
Adam Carolla
It's weird to be at the top of your game at 70.
Bill Burr
Well, you know what is the ultimate tragedy of life, I think, is that you spend an entire lifetime working on this thing that's inside your skull. Like gathering information, adding new information, experiences, everything you read, everything that makes you smarter, kinder, better, more aware, more able to make great decisions as opposed to stupid decisions. All that goes into this thing. And then because this thing gives out, you throw it in the trash with. Just seems crazy. It seems. I could see getting rid of the body, but they should have some way of saying of doing a preservation of this thing inside the skull that put all this years and time and effort to gathering all this. And you might say, well, you can pass it on. You can pass on like 10%.
Adam Carolla
Yeah, yeah, I agree.
Bill Burr
You have to learn your own shit. Everybody does. And so it's just such a waste.
Adam Carolla
So basically, I'm hoping I Bill, you're essentially saying you're Ming vase on top of a pedestal that's crumbling and you're gonna crash to the ground. Well, that's a good note to go out on.
Bill Burr
Yeah. And the Ming is really what you want to save. All right, well, thank you. Great to see you, pal.
Adam Carolla
Good to see you back.
Bill Burr
Well, top's fun. Top that Club Random.
Adam Carolla
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On this lively, unfiltered episode of Club Random, Bill Maher and comedian/author/podcaster Adam Carolla settle in for a sprawling, often comedic conversation that ranges from the ups and downs of showbusiness to deeper reflections on success, politics, family, masculinity, social division, and the absurdities of modern life. In classic Club Random fashion, the exchanges are candid, irreverent, and full of personal anecdotes—showcasing the chemistry of two seasoned comics trying to find reason (and humor) in a world that too often lacks both.
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Gritty, raw, and full of tongue-in-cheek humor—Maher and Carolla cut through the culture war noise with equal parts skepticism, empathy, and sarcasm. The episode showcases not just two comics riffing on the absurdities of modern America, but men reaching for meaning, room for nuance, and the importance of staying sharp and honest—no matter how random life gets.