Bo Derek | Club Random with Bill Maher

Summary

Club Random with Bill Maher: Bo Derek

Episode Date: July 6, 2026
Podcast: Club Random with Bill Maher
Guest: Bo Derek

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Overview

In this lively and candid conversation, Bill Maher welcomes Bo Derek to Club Random for a sprawling, no-holds-barred chat focused on fame, aging, Hollywood, relationships, activism (particularly animal welfare), and the quirky realities of life in California. True to the Club Random style, the discussion is refreshingly agenda-free, peppered with wit, personal anecdotes, and sharp observations from both Maher and Derek.

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Key Topics & Insights

1. Old Hollywood & Talk Show Culture

• Spontaneity Over Scripting

  • Bill and Bo reminisce about the era of talk show pre-interviews and how both dislike rehearsed stories.
  • Bo: “I used to have big fights because I would never do a pre-interview. I wasn't very good at my job.” (04:18)
  • Bill critiques modern "wokeness," noting some things haven't changed: “All the actresses come up right to this very day… it's either tits or…” (04:37)

• Anecdotes About Legends

  • They swap stories about icons like Johnny Carson, Larry King, and Marlon Brando.
  • Bo shares: “When my husband's second wife, Ursula Andress, was writing her autobiography, Brando called her… he couldn’t remember if they’d made love or not.” (07:24)

2. Sex, Relationships, and “Pretty Privilege”

• Judgment vs. Being Judgy

  • Candid talk about attraction, aging, and generational differences around marriage and relationships.
  • Bill: “Judging is making a choice about your settled opinion on any issue… Life is judging.” (10:42)

• Aging & Preferences

  • Bill reveals: “I'm 70, never got married. For men, downhill is women… the urge to be, you know, the water's always gonna roll downhill to that.” (11:25)
  • Bo’s take: “Love is love, and it's individual. You can't… I was 17. And you think you know everything when you're 17.” (24:48)

• Discussion of “Pretty Privilege”

  • A frank acknowledgment of how physical beauty can still shape careers and opportunities.
  • Bo: “My life...because I had, you know, 200 years ago, my physique wouldn't have been in fashion and my looks wouldn't have been in fashion. I’m born in the right time.” (30:39)

3. Animals & Activism

• Mutual Love for Animals

  • Both share deep compassion for animals and frustration with the mistreatment of horses (Central Park carriage horses, horse racing) and exotic animals in entertainment.
  • Bill: “As a PETA board member, I know you love horses and care for them…” (12:06)
  • Bo details her work as a racing commissioner: “It was a great opportunity to learn about the industry and make some real changes.” (15:14)

• Debate on Horse Racing

  • Friendly disagreement, with Bo believing reforms can make racing humane, while Bill remains skeptical.

• Wild Animals & Old-Hollywood Films

  • Bo shares on the chaos of filming Tarzan in Sri Lanka: “Everything was trying to kill me on that movie all the time.” (17:44)

4. Fame, Impostor Syndrome & Hollywood Mystique

• Sudden Fame

  • Bo describes fame as a whirlwind, recounting her accidental entry into show business: “I had no aspirations to be in films… It came at me so fast and turned my life around.” (36:19)
  • She reflects on impostor syndrome: “I always felt kind of fake and an imposter at the same time because I didn't work as an actress [like others].” (37:06)

• Maher’s Perspective

  • Bill observes, “So many people, they want it, they yearn for it so badly… and there's something that reads about someone who actually doesn't care if I get this part.” (37:06)

5. Parenthood & Nepo Babies

• No Regrets About Not Having Kids
  • Both share their child-free status and thoughts on parenthood expectations.
  • Bo: “I thought I did [want kids]… and then I thought, I’m not mother material.” (32:23)
  • Discussion of parenting in showbiz and the nepo baby phenomenon: “They’re everywhere. And it’s OK.” (34:47)

6. Politics, Pragmatism & Society

• Wokeness, Cancel Culture & Engagement

  • Bill critiques the left’s unwillingness to debate: “It’s the woke people… they don’t want to argue with me because they don’t have [the knowledge].” (27:40)
  • “Just engage on the argument I’m making. Tell me that the argument I’m making is wrong.” (28:05)

• The Evolution of Women’s Rights

  • Fascinating discussion on how quickly society has changed for women, with both reflecting on past family hardships.
  • Bo: “My mom had a tough time… single mother in southern Illinois during the Depression.” (61:11)

7. California Life & Quality of Living

• The Seduction of California

  • Bill and Bo marvel at the weather, scenery, and why people tolerate state flaws.
  • Bill: “It’s just a freak of nature, this place… there’s no place that’s one hour from ocean, mountains, desert.” (68:15)

• Retirement & Contentment

  • Bo: “I love retirement… I’m so happy in retirement.” (78:17)
  • Insightful critique of the “do what you love” philosophy: “Do what you’re good at and then you’ll make a good living and you can do what you want.” (78:32)

8. Memorable Miscellany & Humor

• Funny & Touching Anecdotes
  • The tale of swimming in the Hearst Castle pool (49:43)
  • Gnome-hunting in Solvang: “You have to search for gnomes… they’re hidden all over town and you get clues. Of course I did. Of course I did. It was awesome. And we were very high.” (79:53)

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On Age & Appreciation:
  “The fact that I'm 70 and I'm here with you today, and I feel fine. You know, we don't take that for granted at our age.” – Bill Maher (57:34)

• On Success & Impostor Syndrome:
  “I always felt kind of fake and an imposter at the same time because I didn't work as an actress.” – Bo Derek (37:06)

• On Activism & Animals:
  “I was there to work on the horse slaughter bill, to stop horse slaughter in the country. And yes, I do want to stop the slaughter. And that's been a 25-year shit show.” – Bo Derek (46:16)

• On Relationships & Truth:
  “They have girlfriends, they treat them well. They don't get married. So they're my heroes. Because we're not liars.” – Bo Derek (26:13)

• On Society & Progress:
  “Modernity is really modern. It's really new. I mean, just a hot shower was a rarity 100 years ago.” – Bill Maher (62:53)

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Important Timestamps

| Timestamp | Topic / Quote | |-----------|--------------| | 04:18 | Bo on despising pre-interviews in talk show days | | 07:24 | Bo’s Ursula Andress/Brando anecdote | | 11:25 | Bill on never marrying and “water rolls downhill” | | 15:14 | Bo on making changes in horse racing | | 30:39 | Bo on “pretty privilege” and being in fashion | | 37:06 | Bo on impostor syndrome and unexpected fame | | 46:16 | Bo details activism against horse slaughter | | 61:11 | Bo describes her mother’s Depression-era struggles | | 68:15 | Bill marvels at California’s geography | | 78:17 | Bo: “I love retirement.” | | 79:53 | Gnome-hunting in Solvang anecdote |

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Conclusion

This Club Random episode is a thoroughly enjoyable, wandering, and insightful conversation covering the quirks of fame, the realities of aging, Hollywood mythology, the complexities of animal rights, and the beauty—and peculiarities—of Californian life. Bill Maher and Bo Derek find camaraderie as non-conformists and animal lovers, both embracing the unexpected turns their lives and careers have taken. Peppered with humor, warmth, and hard-won wisdom, the episode stands out as a meditation on contentment, authenticity, and living well on your own terms.

Transcript

[Bo Derek]

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[Bill Burr]

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[Bo Derek]

it's such a mystery.

[Bill Burr]

A complete mystery.

[Bo Derek]

It is.

[Bill Burr]

Yes.

[Bo Derek]

I don't care how much talent you have, CL Random. It's all because we want to get high here.

[Bill Burr]

And your point is?

[Bo Derek]

And my point is. Club Random.

[Bill Burr]

Holy Hello. I didn't think it would happen until I saw it in person, but you're really here. I'm just so flattered you're here. I mean, you don't do a lot of stuff.

[Bo Derek]

I don't. But I am.

[Bill Burr]

Thank you.

[Bo Derek]

So big fans.

[Bill Burr]

Wow. I'm so happy I don't sound like that. Remember, in American Beauty. The kid who was like, there's so much beauty in a plastic bag.

[Bo Derek]

Yes.

[Bill Burr]

Remember that?

[Bo Derek]

Yes.

[Bill Burr]

I don't want to be that guy, but I feel very plastic baggy today because, you know, I'm 70, but I'm feeling fine.

[Bo Derek]

Right behind you.

[Bill Burr]

Yeah. And you know when you're this age, you've had shit. So like, if you feel good and don't have to deal with the health, that's a good day. It's a beautiful day in California. I get to talk to you, I get to have a drink, which I allow myself once a week.

[Bo Derek]

Nice.

[Bill Burr]

Mostly you, I mean, I just, you just don't do a lot. So that you would come here is just very meaningful to me. I appreciate it.

[Bo Derek]

Well, that's interesting because I am a big fan. Awesome. Don't miss your show. So when I got the invitation to come, I said yes. And then I thought, what the hell am I doing? Wandi, what are we going to talk about?

[Bill Burr]

Oh, we're not going to have any problem.

[Bo Derek]

Okay.

[Bill Burr]

I mean, if you've seen this thing, you know, I mean, I just, I have no agenda, no questions. I said when we started, if I'm going to do a podcast, there's already a million. It's not going to be like the other ones, which really are just the old talk show. They have mics, they have cards, they have questions. I have pot and liquor.

[Bo Derek]

Great. And no pre interview.

[Bill Burr]

Pre interview, no.

[Bo Derek]

But I come from Johnny Carson days.

[Bill Burr]

That's what I'm. Yeah.

[Bo Derek]

And I used to have big fights because I would never do a pre interview.

[Bill Burr]

Yeah. Cause you were a big star. No, they let you get away with it.

[Bo Derek]

I'm not very good at my job. So the idea of having to tell a story once and then two nights later have to be funny and tell it again was. I wasn't very good at it.

[Bill Burr]

It's really hard to do. And of course in those days also like the way the shows were, they thought of themselves, I'm sure as politically correct, but like they just wanted to have the hot actress in the short skirt, you know, I mean, you see to this day, I know all these, you know, super woke people, but like all the actresses come up right to this very day. I'm talking about, you know, the main late night shows. Colbert. And it's either tits or. But it's a lot of skin and

[Bo Derek]

a lot of flirting. A lot of flirting, which is gross.

[Bill Burr]

Cause who would want to fuck those guys? I mean, me, I could see.

[Bo Derek]

Yeah, yeah.

[Bill Burr]

But not those Guys.

[Bo Derek]

Yep, I'm with you. I'm right there. And I remember. What was it? Larry King, I think before I went on, they said, don't flirt with Larry.

[Bill Burr]

Larry. I loved Larry, but I wasn't gonna flirt with him. No. Well, he was married eight times.

[Bo Derek]

I know.

[Bill Burr]

And I knew Larry very well. Not. We weren't flirting. Although. Remember he kissed Brando that time?

[Bo Derek]

Yes.

[Bill Burr]

Remember that time Brando kissed him?

[Bo Derek]

Yes.

[Bill Burr]

What the fuck was that about Brando?

[Bo Derek]

I know a little bit about him.

[Bill Burr]

Weirdo, Right.

[Bo Derek]

Because my husband was older than I was and in the business, my first husband.

[Bill Burr]

Whose name you retain.

[Bo Derek]

Yeah. Yeah. It seemed kind of weird when you're famous to change your name, your last name. I know that seems toya or something, but yeah.

[Bill Burr]

Brando kissed Larry, Kate.

[Bo Derek]

Yeah, he did.

[Bill Burr]

I guess he was just. He was Floyd. What a genius. But I know.

[Bo Derek]

What a character, you know?

[Bill Burr]

A character. Yeah.

[Bo Derek]

I'm friends and a lot practical jokes. He was a friend of my husband, so I was around when he pulled some very, very intricate.

[Bill Burr]

You met Brando?

[Bo Derek]

Yeah.

[Bill Burr]

Oh, that's awesome.

[Bo Derek]

Yeah.

[Bill Burr]

And dish.

[Bo Derek]

He was great. He was great. But just one thing that is, I think, funny. It was funny at the time. He was. When my husband's second wife, Ursula Andres, who was. Yeah.

[Bill Burr]

Was John Derek's second wife.

[Bo Derek]

Yeah. She just. There's just never been a face like that ever.

[Bill Burr]

When she was coming out of the water in the James Bond.

[Bo Derek]

I know.

[Bill Burr]

You know?

[Bo Derek]

Yeah. When athletic women weren't the style then, too.

[Bill Burr]

You did a little coming out of the water yourself.

[Bo Derek]

I think Blake had that in mind.

[Bill Burr]

You look like you still could.

[Bo Derek]

Oh, thank you.

[Bill Burr]

You look great. You aged incredibly well.

[Bo Derek]

Back to Brando, when he was writing his autobiography, he actually called Ursula, and he couldn't remember whether they had made love or not. He knew they had dated, but he couldn't remember, and he wanted her to verify whether it happened or not.

[Bill Burr]

That's in Streisand's book.

[Bo Derek]

What?

[Bill Burr]

Not the same idea. Not the same people. She. It's like. I don't know if you saw this. She put out her autobiography a couple years ago. It's like 900 pages, but it is worth it. I'm not just saying that because she's a good friend, but it's just such. It's. First of all, it's so obviously her voice.

[Bo Derek]

Oh, good.

[Bill Burr]

You know, it's not like, as told too. And she. I know she. I talked to her many times as she was writing, and she really cared about putting it down and like, her life is just amazing. I mean, there was not one guy who worked with her, you know, for decades who didn't try to get with her, you know, from earliest times. And the best story apropos of what you're saying is there's a line in there. It's like a. It's like, did I sleep with Warren Beatty? Maybe. I think so. I don't know. I'd have to think about it. You know, it was like she couldn't remember whether she literally had sex with the biggest lothario ever in Hollywood. So what does that say about. I think that we're not young enough.

[Bo Derek]

I think there must be a point of no return where you have so many that you can't remember, I guess.

[Bill Burr]

Yes, that's part of it. Certainly a guy like Marlon. Well, Marlon Brando, too, who tried to get with Streisand.

[Bo Derek]

Did he?

[Bill Burr]

Yeah.

[Bo Derek]

I didn't know that.

[Bill Burr]

Oh, yeah, it's in her book. You know, I'm telling you, everybody. And she's bewitching. I can see why. But. So Larry King was starting on Larry King. I loved Larry. What? Mostly when I knew him closely to him, he was married to the last wife, the Mormon.

[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

Sean.

[Bill Burr]

Still around Sean? Yeah. So we're not talking shit about her. No, but I mean, it was public record that they, you know, had many marital problems. But, you know, when you would see them out together, it's this phenomenon that you were bringing up that, you know, he's. Larry, he's not a terrible looking guy, but, you know, he's not a Lothario. Like, you know, some of your leading men. I'm sure Tarzan was certainly some. I don't remember the movie well, but I remember thinking, wow, this guy has some great shampoo for a man who lives in the jungle.

[Bo Derek]

Right.

[Bill Burr]

Cause his hair was like fucking perfect, you know?

[Bo Derek]

I know, I know.

[Bill Burr]

I mean, he and Jane look like they met at Equinox.

[Bo Derek]

Yeah, he definitely did.

[Bill Burr]

But there's Larry. And Sean was like a foot taller and model looking, you know, she. Yeah, yeah.

[Bo Derek]

And I can't say anything. My husband was 30 years older than I was, so it's hard for me to judge. Although I do. I shouldn't.

[Bill Burr]

No, you can.

[Bo Derek]

Yeah, Nothing wrong. Cause we learn. We grow and we learn.

[Bill Burr]

Right? Life is judging, judging. I mean, you can be judge y, which I fucking hate. But judging, judging, what's the difference? Well, judging is. Judging is making a choice about your settled opinion on any issue. And that's okay to do. You know, there are Some examples. That would be obvious. Are we. Are we judging pedophilia? Yes. We're saying I make the judgment that

[Bo Derek]

this is wrong, but judgy meaning about everything.

[Bill Burr]

Well, most things. I mean, you seem to feel a little guilty about this, and I'm saying you shouldn't, because all we're saying is humans will. Humans will human. They're just gonna do the humany things.

[Bo Derek]

Yes, they are.

[Bill Burr]

And with men. Look, I'm 70, never got married. We don't need to go into why that is. But let's just say water rolls downhill. That's my view. Which is. And for men, downhill is women. You know, it's like sex. The urge to be. You know that the water's always gonna roll downhill to that.

[Bo Derek]

Yes, yes.

[Bill Burr]

With most heterosexual men, and certainly with

[Bo Derek]

gay men, it's just our animal behavior.

[Bill Burr]

Right.

[Bo Derek]

I mean, well, if, you know. You know, animals. You love animals. You know how.

[Bill Burr]

Boy, do I.

[Bo Derek]

You know, the drive. The animal drive's very strong. We pretend it isn't in humans, but it is.

[Bill Burr]

You know, we both. I'm a PETA board member. I know you. One thing I do know about you is you love horses and care for them and we have a mutual enemy. Usually people say we have a mutual friend.

[Bo Derek]

Yeah.

[Bill Burr]

You know, when you're with me, I got a lot of beefs. I didn't try to start any of them. They're all wrong. But, yeah, Liam Neeson is. I have had a public feud with him.

[Bo Derek]

Have I?

[Bill Burr]

No, no. I'm just saying. But I know you love horses, so I know you're going to be on my side. His side is he's pro the horses in Central Park.

[Bo Derek]

Yeah.

[Bill Burr]

That's horrible.

[Bo Derek]

Yeah, I. I judge that.

[Bill Burr]

I judge that as horrible.

[Bo Derek]

Yes. Now, could it be done? Could tourists take rides on those horses in a humane way? With animals? With horses?

[Bill Burr]

No.

[Bo Derek]

You don't think so at all? They should not ever be pulling a carry.

[Bill Burr]

Well, certainly not stoned and shitting in a bucket and like so. They're so. Spirit is broken as they stand all day outside of the hotel. I used to stay at the hotel. Corrupts from Central Park. It stunk of horseshit.

[Bo Derek]

No, it's terrible. They shouldn't be on the street.

[Bill Burr]

Yeah.

[Bo Derek]

They should be only in the park. They should give that backfield for them to have turnout. I've been through this with people. That backfield with turnout and stables, proper living arrangements.

[Bill Burr]

And that's what you have for your. You have horses?

[Bo Derek]

I do. How many? I do. I have two. I have two.

[Bill Burr]

That's awesome.

[Bo Derek]

I used to have a lot where we differ, I would think, because I know I've come up against PETA on a couple issues. Is horse racing. I imagine you don't care for that either.

[Bill Burr]

I don't.

[Bo Derek]

Yeah.

[Bill Burr]

And they're. I recently talked to Ingrid Newkirk, the head of PETA, about it, and she said it's circling the drain. They've gotten it stopped in a lot of places.

[Bo Derek]

Horse racing.

[Bill Burr]

Yeah. Do you think it's.

[Bo Derek]

I don't think it's because of PETA.

[Bill Burr]

Yeah, it is. They're very. They're really good at lobbying support. Who else would it be? Who else gives a shit?

[Bo Derek]

It's a lot of things. I was a racing commissioner here in California for seven years.

[Bill Burr]

Why do you think it's not bad for the horse? You think the horse is okay with it?

[Bo Derek]

I think at a certain level, yes. I think in California it's okay if we're going to use horses at all,

[Bill Burr]

but they often break their legs and then they have to be put down.

[Bo Derek]

In the old days, yes. And in certain states and certain jurisdictions. But that's why when Arnold Schwarzenegger, when he was governor, he asked if I would be a commissioner and he wanted me to look after the horses. And I think you could argue that while I was there, we changed some rules that really made a difference.

[Bill Burr]

Well, that's good. But Arnold, I am.

[Bo Derek]

Yeah. You're not convinced it's okay, but, you

[Bill Burr]

know, we don't have to have beef. I don't want to have beef with anybody. Disagreements are fine.

[Bo Derek]

I know, but it was a great opportunity to learn about the industry and make some real changes.

[Bill Burr]

So here's a story that makes sense to this. I went to a party, a friend of mine. He's a great guy, I love him, and he's become very successful and now has a beautiful house very near here. But this is like 15 years ago. He was living in an apartment, but he wanted to have this sort of lavish, you know, exotic, different kind of party. So this is in an apartment. I walk in and there's a camel in the lobby of the building. And I go up and so it was like. Yeah, some sort of animal themed or, you know. And then outside, you know, you see an apartment and then like out on the patio is a fucking tiger. And.

[Bo Derek]

Oh, no, no, no.

[Bill Burr]

As a PETA person, I was just getting more and more and there was a room full of A Listers and I knew some of them were, like, sympathetic to the cause So I was saying, we gotta tell Michael you can't have a no. Okay? This is just not right. And finally a few of us go up and convince him and Arnold Schwarzenegger walks in and goes, I want to see the Tyga. It's good.

[Bo Derek]

Yes. No, I worked with Tippi Hedren. We went to D.C. and everything on that.

[Bill Burr]

The birds. The birds. Are you that Tippi Hedren?

[Bo Derek]

Yeah.

[Bill Burr]

Yeah.

[Bo Derek]

But, you know, she gave up her career for various reasons, but one was to help endangered animals and especially wild animals. Being pets, she really fought that.

[Bill Burr]

She probably felt guilty about how much they had to fucking torture birds to get that.

[Bo Derek]

Well, it was later when she did a movie called Roar with some wild cats. One of them took. Melanie was a little girl actress in the movie. Took her forehead off. In the movie? Yeah. In the movie or in the movie while they were shooting it, it actually happened. But Tippi learned by working with the animals, she thought she loved them. She had, I think, one or two as pets. But she learned in the process that this is not right. And wild animals belong in the wild.

[Bill Burr]

They do. Did you ever work with them? Oh, Tarzan, you must have the chimp.

[Bo Derek]

Everything was trying to kill me on that movie all the time.

[Bill Burr]

Where was that shot?

[Bo Derek]

That was Sri Lanka.

[Bill Burr]

Sri Lanka. Oh, so non Africa.

[Bo Derek]

Where the elephants are, you see.

[Bill Burr]

Oh, of course. Sri Lanka.

[Bo Derek]

You can ship in the lions, you can ship in the orang and the cheetahs, but you can't move elephants.

[Bill Burr]

For those who are geographically stunted, Sri Lanka is off the coast of India. Used to be Ceylon and then it became Sri Lanka. And it is mostly Hindu, right?

[Bo Derek]

Yes.

[Bill Burr]

It's a war torn island.

[Bo Derek]

Christian.

[Bill Burr]

Yeah, there's different factions. Yeah, they.

[Bo Derek]

Yes.

[Bill Burr]

That's the world out there. We're in here.

[Bo Derek]

I know.

[Bill Burr]

Do you drink?

[Bo Derek]

Not anymore. It doesn't make me more clever, it turns out. Oh, I know it does. You. And I'm enjoying the. God, I smoke.

[Bill Burr]

Oh, yeah, you smoke?

[Bo Derek]

No, but I used to smoke pot as a kid and just to.

[Bill Burr]

One of the cool things about 10 was the pot smoking.

[Bo Derek]

Yeah.

[Bill Burr]

You know, I mean, it was 1980, right? Yeah, yeah. And in 1980, that wasn't like. I mean, you saw Cheech and Chong did it, but it was like. It just was. I watched it again fairly recently and I gotta say, it holds up.

[Bo Derek]

I think it does, too.

[Bill Burr]

It absolutely does. Now, there are some things like, there's literally nothing you can look at from even 20 years ago that doesn't have something that you go, oh, we Wouldn't do that today, you know?

[Bo Derek]

Yeah.

[Bill Burr]

So. But that.

[Bo Derek]

Oh, sure, sure. Okay.

[Bill Burr]

I mean, like he says he's, you know, Dudley Moore's writing partner is gay.

[Bo Derek]

Yes.

[Bill Burr]

Which that itself wasn't done a hell of a lot.

[Bo Derek]

It wasn't.

[Bill Burr]

But generally it does hold up. I mean, it does have a sexist slant because it's a man who's having a midlife crisis and is lusting after water.

[Bo Derek]

But that's what this story's about.

[Bill Burr]

Of course.

[Bo Derek]

Yeah.

[Bill Burr]

Water rolls downhill. He cannot help himself.

[Bo Derek]

Can't help it.

[Bill Burr]

I mean, that's what's so funny. And what I. When I saw it, I hadn't seen it since it came out, I don't think. And when I saw it a couple years ago, it was like, I forgot that it was such a comedy that they played. I mean, there's just a lot of broad comedy. The bee on his face and rolling down the hill.

[Bo Derek]

Yeah. And the hot sand on his feet, which is so corny.

[Bill Burr]

Yes. And you don't even speak until like the third reel.

[Bo Derek]

No, hardly in the movie.

[Bill Burr]

But then. Well, but you are. But when. Another thing I forgot all those years. You are actually quite good when you do open your mouth. It's a great performance.

[Bo Derek]

Thank you.

[Bill Burr]

Yeah.

[Bo Derek]

Really?

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[Bo Derek]

It was written. And I'm working with Blake Edwards.

[Bill Burr]

Right. Oh, of course.

[Bo Derek]

If he says you did a good job, you did a good job, you can just go home and feel good about it.

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[Bo Derek]

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[Bill Burr]

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[Bo Derek]

Interesting.

[Bill Burr]

I don't know if he was.

[Bo Derek]

I don't know either.

[Bill Burr]

Yeah, but very often those kind of guys married to the saintly Julie Andrews, you know, but she's a dame.

[Bo Derek]

She's amazing.

[Bill Burr]

What is she?

[Bo Derek]

She's not saintly. She's fantastic.

[Bill Burr]

Really.

[Bo Derek]

She's fun.

[Bill Burr]

Well, you can be both. But she's truly the good qualities of a saint. Right. She couldn't be nicer. Right.

[Bo Derek]

Couldn't be nicer. But she can talk like a sailor with the best of us. It's good to know, isn't it?

[Bill Burr]

Well, remember then he put her in SOB and then she showed her tits.

[Bo Derek]

Yeah.

[Bill Burr]

Do you remember what a big thing that was? It was like, Julie Andrews is showing her tits.

[Bo Derek]

Yep.

[Bill Burr]

But no, it's a really. It does hold up. And it's. In its broadly comic way, it really does get at that very universal thing that happens in. I can only speak for the men, but the midlife crisis or the. You know, is this the last time I'm going to be sort of like fuckable attractive to, you know, I mean, I have other. But, you know, you don't want to let go of that part of you.

[Bo Derek]

Yes.

[Bill Burr]

You know, I mean, and I'm sympathetic to the point. I mean, you still got it. And I know you. It's funny because you said you were so much younger. Right. Than your first husband.

[Bo Derek]

Mm.

[Bill Burr]

But now you're younger. You're the younger. I mean, your husband is now younger than you.

[Bo Derek]

Yes. Yes.

[Bill Burr]

So you kind of like the poster person for the age doesn't matter. It can go either way. It's just the person.

[Bo Derek]

Love is love, and it's individual. You can't. I ended up meeting a lot of young women who were with older men. I don't think I had anything in common with any of them, really, but they thought we did just because of that one aspect of my life. But, you know, I was 17. And you think you know everything when you're 17.

[Bill Burr]

You were 17 when you met John Derek.

[Bo Derek]

Mm. And he was 40s, right? Yeah. He was 46.

[Bill Burr]

Yeah. I mean, look, I'm talking at the last.

[Bo Derek]

That's a great age for a man.

[Bill Burr]

No? And I mean, this has been my whole life.

[Bo Derek]

Yeah. And he was going off to Europe,

[Bill Burr]

and I used to feel sheepish about it because people try to shame you about it. And at some point I went, you know, what if everybody else gets to say I was born this way and this is my truth, and you know what I mean, all this, you know, if I were to come out as gay, they'd do. That's your truth, Phil. That's what you like. You were born that way. Well, I was born

[Bo Derek]

attracted to younger women.

[Bill Burr]

It's not just physical. There's a certain joie de vivre that replaces the joie to mine that got up and went. And it. You know, you need joie.

[Bo Derek]

And Viv, you know, I've always said that I have some friends that are like you and that didn't get married. And they have girlfriends. They treat them well. They don't get married. So they're my heroes.

[Bill Burr]

Because we're not liars.

[Bo Derek]

Yes, but men want both, and men lie. Husbands lie. And it's the. It's being made a fool of. It's the deceit that's the problem.

[Bill Burr]

I feel very good about the choice I made. I feel I made a rare choice. It wasn't hard. Well, it is hard. It's hard to stay unmarried when you're successful and charming as fuck. As we all know. Even though half the town is always beefing with me, I just ignore the hate. Mailbo. Fuck it.

[Bo Derek]

I can't believe you get all this. Oh, I hate crazy.

[Bill Burr]

Oh, the woke hate me.

[Bo Derek]

The woke hate.

[Bill Burr]

Exactly. They just hate. It's an animating feature of their life is to feel superior to people who are morally inferior because they don't agree with them 100% on everything. So that means you are, of course, morally inferior. And I just won't buy it. I don't go along, and that's okay. The people who love me love My dirty drawers. They really do. They do anything for me. They literally say to me, thank you for your service all the time when I'm out. So the people who hate me, you know, it's just like, it just balances out.

[Bo Derek]

Yeah.

[Bill Burr]

You know, and you. And if I thought that the people who hate me ever, like, made an honest argument. They're the people who won't talk to me, the conservatives who I don't vote with or agree on many things. They're always happy to talk. It's the woke people who are like. Because they're not really that bright or learned about what the things they're arguing about. So they don't want to argue with me because they don't have.

[Bo Derek]

No, no.

[Bill Burr]

They just. I always say to them, just engage on the argument I'm making. Tell me that the argument I'm making is wrong. No, it's always, you're old or you're, you know, you're sexist. These are labels. What about the argument? You know, I went to see Barbie when that was out and I tweeted about. I hadn't tweeted in a long time when I got home. And just to say that it's based on a false premise that we still have this oppressive patriarchy in 2023. We don't. There are problems that remain. But it's not a patriarchy. And I proved it because I looked up the board, because there's a real Mattel company and I looked up their board. It's six. I think it was six and six. Six men. Six women. In the movie, she barges into the Mattel boardroom and it's all men.

[Bo Derek]

Right.

[Bill Burr]

And it's the present day. So you're literally lying and saying, because we have the facts, Mattel is not all men.

[Bo Derek]

Why did Mattel let them do that?

[Bill Burr]

As a company, it made a billion dollars. You don't think they sold all of them?

[Bo Derek]

Did it help doll sales? I guess it did, but I don't know.

[Bill Burr]

I don't know. I never saw the follow up, but I can't imagine that it wouldn't. Right. Barbie was like all anyone talked about in the summer of 2023. Anyway, when I tweeted this out, like, did anyone engage with that actual argument? No, just, you know, oh, Bill, you're flexing. You're this, you're that, you're old. You don't get it. You hate women. It's like, just talk about what the argument. Just engage. And they will not because there is no argument. No, I have you Dead to rights. There is a real Mattel boardroom. Doesn't mean. I'm saying there's no problem between the sexes.

[Bo Derek]

Sure.

[Bill Burr]

But, you know, they're all so very uniform in their thinking. You know, they love this privilege concept. And there is privilege for white people, of course, in this country. I mean, the legacy of this country is so horrible that all white people are benefiting from stuff that happened years before. Doesn't mean we did it today. But, you know, today's very different. That there's many kinds of privilege. Pretty privilege. That's a thing.

[Bo Derek]

I know nothing about that.

[Bill Burr]

Well, I know a lot about it.

[Bo Derek]

Yeah.

[Bill Burr]

I mean, pretty gets you. First of all, you never have to buy a drink or a dinner.

[Bo Derek]

No, it is. Or a boat. It's an embarrassment of riches. What, my life. Oh, yeah, my life. And because I had, you know, 200 years ago, my physique wouldn't have been in fashion and my looks wouldn't have been in fashion. I'm born in the right time.

[Bill Burr]

You don't think the way you look would have been in fashion toward you? No.

[Bo Derek]

I'd been skinny, I would have been considered skinny and scrawny and not Rubenesque and not. No, there is fashion in beauty.

[Bill Burr]

There definitely is. There is definitely a Rubenesque thing. I don't think that was 200 years ago. I think there was a little before that. And anytime. I think it was. It was past the Middle Ages, but early into the modern era, maybe the 1600s, is Peter Paul Rubin. But anytime society is living in poverty, extreme poverty, being heavy. Thank you.

[Bo Derek]

Gigantic. Gigantic. Yes.

[Bill Burr]

Yes. Being a real pie wagon was just the most fashionable thing. Look at North Korea. Like, there's one fat guy in the country, it's Kim Jong Un, and everybody else is starving. But the king has to be, you know, he doesn't try to, like, stop that. That's a way to signal to the people, I'm regal, I'm royal. I'm different than you. You have kids?

[Bo Derek]

No.

[Bill Burr]

No kids. Look at you. You and me, no kids. You didn't want them?

[Bo Derek]

No. I thought I did. Just because you do. Everyone says you were going to have kids, and then when I think I hit about 32, I thought, oh, I better start working on this and scheduling it.

[Bill Burr]

You're still married to John.

[Bo Derek]

Yeah. I kept waiting for my life to slow down. It never slowed down.

[Bill Burr]

And he didn't say, I want to put a bab you. No, he didn't want.

[Bo Derek]

He'd had two kids, previous marriage. Right. He was Older.

[Bill Burr]

So he'd done it.

[Bo Derek]

Yeah, he'd done it.

[Bill Burr]

Oh, so that's perfect.

[Bo Derek]

And so when I thought I wanted it, then I really started. Sit down. Sitting down to scheduling. And I thought, I'm not mother material. My husband certainly isn't father material. I mean, he was the most judgmental oddball.

[Bill Burr]

Who?

[Bo Derek]

And Derek, your husband.

[Bill Burr]

It was a judgmental oddball.

[Bo Derek]

Well, he kind of lived in a fantasy world and was very. He was very tough on his children from his first marriage. And that didn't work out well, because he was tough. Well, it's funny, you think and then you look around it, at least back then. I don't think so much now, maybe, but. But back in the 80s, kids of famous people were really struggling.

[Bill Burr]

Nepo babies, we call them now.

[Bo Derek]

No, but then I think they were left home more.

[Bill Burr]

No. Nepo baby. You've heard that term?

[Bo Derek]

I have, yes.

[Bill Burr]

Okay. That's anybody who's. And that doesn't mean that they can't be talented themselves, but it is a big advantage.

[Bo Derek]

But I think they grew up with a chip on their shoulder, a lot of them, because they were left at home then you know what? They weren't brought on the set. They didn't have the nannies where they were in their parents lives so much.

[Bill Burr]

You're right. Things changed.

[Bo Derek]

Yeah.

[Bill Burr]

It was harder then. Now it's great. All these kids are very happy. All the ones who are like 20 years old now, Johnny Depp's kid, and I mean everybody who's ever been anybody from 20 years ago, their kid is now like. And the kids are very happy with this. They don't want real jobs. I know, and it's okay. But just, you know, I've heard at times this argument, you know, oh, it's harder for. It's not harder for you.

[Bo Derek]

It's not harder.

[Bill Burr]

It's easier for you. Especially now.

[Bo Derek]

It's definitely easier.

[Bill Burr]

Nepal babies are everywhere. They really are.

[Bo Derek]

They are.

[Bill Burr]

And it's okay.

[Bo Derek]

And you know, I was. I couldn't wait to drive. I couldn't wait to get my first job, to have my own money that I could.

[Bill Burr]

Me too.

[Bo Derek]

Buy potware.

[Bill Burr]

Yeah. Oh, so you did smoke pot.

[Bo Derek]

I did.

[Bill Burr]

Oh, good thing I did.

[Bo Derek]

When I was in high school, when

[Bill Burr]

you were filming that, I don't know

[Bo Derek]

if I really liked it as much as I liked the fact that I was hip and I was smoking.

[Bill Burr]

When you filmed that in 10, were you really smoking pot?

[Bo Derek]

No, no. They brought some, I don't know, herbal something.

[Bill Burr]

Okay. You made it look Real. It certainly was a great fantasy for me. Well, you said your husband, fantasy. You know, he lived in his. And then he married the fantasy girl. He married the girl who, like, it's so funny the way America, like, gets fixated on, like, one girl for, like, 10 years. You are like, it happened with Carmen Electra, Pamela Anderson. It's like, for, like, a whole decade. There's, like, one pretty girl in the whole country. You were that girl.

[Bo Derek]

You know, it was like, how it turned out.

[Bill Burr]

I just, like, no. Nobody else. And it's like, come on, isn't somebody else a little.

[Bo Derek]

No, no.

[Bill Burr]

It's Carmen Electra again. That's it. And it was like, that must have been, I mean, obviously gratifying in one way, kind of a burden in another.

[Bo Derek]

It was none of those things.

[Bill Burr]

Like I say, not.

[Bo Derek]

It was just a whirlwind, because I wasn't. I had no aspirations to be in films. I had. When I did 10, it was just a fluke that I got the part. And I had no agent, no manager, no nothing. No fantasies about being in the movies. So it came at me so fast and turned my life around. So I always felt I was kind of catching up. Never stopped to think. I was just always uncomfortable with my image being all over magazines when I walked down the street. And I always felt kind of fake and an imposter at the same time because I didn't work as an actress. I didn't. Or drive a limo or whatever everybody else did. To be in movies.

[Bill Burr]

It is so funny that so many people, they want it. They yearn for it so badly, and it almost works against them. And there's something that reads, I think, about someone who actually doesn't care if I get this part. It's just like, in a relationship, you know, if you have that, like, you know, I could go out with you, or, you know, it's not gonna kill me if I don't, you know, as opposed to the thirsty guy who's never attractive to a woman. I mean, a woman is always gonna think, well, if he's too good for me, he must be awesome, you know? And it's kind of the same in the business, you know, it's like, well, if she really doesn't care, I mean, it's genuine. They just feel it. It's like, wow, she's too good for us. We want her.

[Bo Derek]

Well, that. It was that way. When I went in on my interview with Blake, you know, I just came in. It was just a fluke. A girlfriend said, he's Looking for this girl and he wants to meet you. Because my husband had. Had a reputation for having beautiful women in his life.

[Bill Burr]

Well, Ursula Andrews.

[Bo Derek]

Yeah. Linda Evans. That was his third wife, Lynn, who said again, Dynasty.

[Bill Burr]

Oh, of course, the blonde.

[Bo Derek]

Big Valley.

[Bill Burr]

Wait, he got with her too.

[Bo Derek]

That was his third wife.

[Bill Burr]

Oh, fuck.

[Bo Derek]

Yeah.

[Bill Burr]

Third wife. Before you. You were the fourth one.

[Bo Derek]

I was the fourth.

[Bill Burr]

I bought this house from someone who. Whose wife was part of a Fifth Wives club. There was a Fifth Wives Club out here in Posh. We wouldn't say exactly what part of Los Angeles this is in, but a nice. Let's just say a nice one that didn't burn down last year.

[Bo Derek]

Okay, okay. In that neighborhood. Yeah.

[Bill Burr]

And they were all like. Well, I'll just say they're all Beverly Hills housewives. And, you know, the fact that there was. Says something about this business. The fact that there was enough of them to have a club. I know of the. And they were all.

[Bo Derek]

And they liked to get together.

[Bill Burr]

Yes. It was a club. And they were all happy. Like, it took this fucker four marriages to figure it out. And now they were obviously older in life.

[Bo Derek]

Now, wait, these are women who were individually the number five. Or was this from the same man?

[Bill Burr]

No, not the same man.

[Bo Derek]

Oh, okay. That's what I thought.

[Bill Burr]

Different sort of Hollywood types and moguls and. Who married five times, is the kind of guy who just. They just get married. They just.

[Bo Derek]

They do. And there's another thing that I think happens too, is a guy can come on real strong, sweep a young woman off her feet.

[Bill Burr]

Right.

[Bo Derek]

Promise her the moon. Then because of his privilege in life, he might. Water might run downhill, and he starts looking somewhere else. And I think that, you know, certain men who have a certain affluence have more opportunity, of course, to do this.

[Bill Burr]

Of course.

[Bo Derek]

You're not gonna have a guy who really works hard for a living with five wives.

[Bill Burr]

No, no, exactly. Well, I'm telling you, it's a Beverly Hills club.

[Bo Derek]

Yeah.

[Bill Burr]

And they were all happy. That's what she told me. Like, they were like. It was a. The guy had finally settled down. It just.

[Bo Derek]

Oh, they were the last one.

[Bill Burr]

The fifth.

[Bo Derek]

Yes. So that happens too. Physically happened with my father.

[Bill Burr]

What do you mean, physically?

[Bo Derek]

My father was kind of. Was quite a rake. And he finally. We all thought. Because I'm one of four kids, we thought he'd found the love of his life finally. And later on in life, he said, no, you don't understand. I just. The drive was gone.

[Bill Burr]

That's the thing.

[Bo Derek]

Yeah.

[Bill Burr]

I mean, look, Anthony Quinn had a baby out of wedlock at 80.

[Bo Derek]

I know, I know.

[Bill Burr]

So. Oh, you know, I know.

[Bo Derek]

I was doing a film with him around that time.

[Bill Burr]

I always thought, I know.

[Bo Derek]

I was there for the whole drama with his wife and everything.

[Bill Burr]

The poor wife must be like, 80. How old does this motherfucker have to get before it was so dramatic worrying about him going out on me.

[Bo Derek]

So dramatic. Yeah.

[Bill Burr]

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[Bill Burr]

But yes, the drive. I mean, but that's always been my issue. Like I just. When I. Anytime. Try not to be crude about this. Anytime I have sex, I just feel like it has to be like I just got out of prison or else I don't want to do it. You know what I mean?

[Bo Derek]

Kind of, yeah. I mean, I don't know if I.

[Bill Burr]

It's not the Kind of thing. Either you should do. Either you should be very passionate or just don't do it. Like, if you used to do it 21 times a week, you know, that's not gonna happen. But make the times that you do do it as good as when it used to. Like, you know that Toby Keith song, I ain't as good as I once was.

[Bo Derek]

Right.

[Bill Burr]

But I'm as good once as I ever was.

[Bo Derek]

Yes. Sweet Toby.

[Bill Burr]

Oh, you knew him?

[Bo Derek]

Yeah.

[Bill Burr]

Wow.

[Bo Derek]

He had racehorses. Racehorses. Good ones.

[Bill Burr]

I only discovered his music recently. I think when he died, I was like, oh. You know, I used to make fun of this guy back in 2003 with the Iraq war, and he had that song about those corny songs, put a boot in your ass. And we made fun and I was like. But I never really gave him a chance. And then I listened to I got his, like, greatest hits. I was like, wow, this guy was talented and he has some amazingly great songs. And I kind of like the boot in the ass one now.

[Bo Derek]

Now you do.

[Bill Burr]

Well, I wasn't for the Iraq war.

[Bo Derek]

Yeah.

[Bill Burr]

So that was, you know, I didn't think of the right war to fight. I like it more for the one we're in now, but we don't want to get into that. And by the way, in my life, I'll just share this with you. There is nothing, and I mean that very literally, nothing more compelling that I've ever experienced than a beautiful woman who's also great to talk to. You know, that's like. That's like everything in life. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But I've never been.

[Bo Derek]

That's my favorite thing. I'm just lucky to be around some really intelligent people that I call friends. And I love nothing more than sitting and talking. My best friend is a politician.

[Bill Burr]

A politician.

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[Bo Derek]

Can we share that? And she's friends. Fascinating. Just fascinating.

[Bill Burr]

And she share that.

[Bo Derek]

She brings me along. Yeah. Ivan Baki. She brings me along.

[Bill Burr]

Who is her position?

[Bo Derek]

Ambassador to the US From Ecuador. She's Lebanese.

[Bill Burr]

Oh, she's from Ecuador.

[Bo Derek]

Yeah. Very, very complicated.

[Bill Burr]

How did you become friends with her in Washington?

[Bo Derek]

I was there to work on the horse slaughter bill, to stop horse slaughter in the country. And yes, I do want to stop the slaughter.

[Bill Burr]

Yeah, me too.

[Bo Derek]

And that's been a 25 year shit show. Well, I mean, it's ridiculous.

[Bill Burr]

You, me and Peter then are on the same page there. So let's just be friends on that one.

[Bo Derek]

Oh, no, we are friends.

[Bill Burr]

Yeah, of course we are. Well, I'm Going to talk to India.

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I just.

[Bo Derek]

I just. I'll tell you what I like. I like very pragmatic solutions.

[Bill Burr]

Me too.

[Bo Derek]

There's a great program that my girlfriend let me be part of in the Galapagos Islands. Do you know blue bonds?

[Bill Burr]

Blue bonds.

[Bo Derek]

Blue bonds. So there's a way.

[Bill Burr]

Bonds.

[Bo Derek]

B O N, B O N D S Financial bonds.

[Bill Burr]

Blue bonds.

[Bo Derek]

Yes, Blue bonds.

[Bill Burr]

Sure.

[Bo Derek]

And for Ecuador to expand their marine preserve by 23 square miles. No, 23, 23,000 square miles. I can't remember. Anyway, it was a huge expansion over 50% of their marine preserve. There was. Credit Suisse set up a blue bond for investment and it was a debt swap. So they got a billion and a half off their debt that they owed for making this marine expansion. So I like the idea of monetizing. It's too easy for us in America. We've destroyed our coral reefs and our oceans. And now we're going to say, now you at the Galapagos, because it's an international treasure. You can't fish in it. You can't do this. We want you to not do anything to hurt your treasure. And it also helped start this incredible superhighway for whales.

[Bill Burr]

And tell people why the Galapagos is so sacred to nature lovers. Because it's where Darwin.

[Bo Derek]

I know.

[Bill Burr]

You know, that's the whole thing with the Galapolos, Ecuador, which is on the west coast of South America, north of Chile, for, again, the geographically challenged. I know some of them are out there. And this is where Darwin went to study what became the theory of evolution. So it is a sacred place to people who actually like science, actual science.

[Bo Derek]

It also belongs to Ecuador. And we expect them not to put hotels and resorts.

[Bill Burr]

Right. I see what you're saying.

[Bo Derek]

So we gotta give them something.

[Bill Burr]

Yeah. I think you could do both. I think that's one where you could do both.

[Bo Derek]

But we have to. And that's what we did with blue bonds. They got a billion and a half off their debt.

[Bill Burr]

Right. Oh, good.

[Bo Derek]

Yeah. It's a great program. And now it's going all over.

[Bill Burr]

Because a hotel, you know, do it right and just don't kill the turtles when you build it, you know? But there's no reason why you would kill the turtles. You could build a hotel without killing the turtles. I feel like that is the essence of pragmatism in politics. Right.

[Bo Derek]

But this might be the one place left where they won't ever have a hotel.

[Bill Burr]

That would be fine with me, too.

[Bo Derek]

Yeah. And we might want to keep one. But we have to give them something

[Bill Burr]

or build it 20 miles away.

[Bo Derek]

Yeah, they have.

[Bill Burr]

So you have to take a fucking

[Bo Derek]

600 miles shuttle bus there. Yeah, they're 600 miles offshore.

[Bill Burr]

I once went to the Hearst Castle. I thought you could drive up right up to it. No, you get in a fucking bus and it's like another 45 minutes. Did you ever go to the Hearst Castle?

[Bo Derek]

I swam in the pool.

[Bill Burr]

Oh, fuck.

[Bo Derek]

I know.

[Bill Burr]

Oh, you're one of those people.

[Bo Derek]

It's good to be me.

[Bill Burr]

I was in.

[Bo Derek]

I swear to God, every in my life. Still, I haven't made a major motion picture in 100 years. Still, doors open for me.

[Bill Burr]

You made the right choice there. By the way. You are not missing anything.

[Bo Derek]

What do you mean?

[Bill Burr]

Not making movies.

[Bo Derek]

No, I don't miss.

[Bill Burr]

You're not missing anything.

[Bo Derek]

I don't miss anything.

[Bill Burr]

You really aren't. It's. I was an actor in the 80s when I was a comic, but, you

[Bo Derek]

know, I saw your post.

[Bill Burr]

Comics become actors. When we think that's it. It was never supposed to be my path. But, you know, you're young and it's fun and, you know, you do some silly movies and. But it sucks. I mean, it's just too many hours. It's just when you're doing a movie, all you do is the movie. It just totally takes over your life, right?

[Bo Derek]

Yes. And you sit around all day. You sit around and it's such a. Yeah. It's such a mystery when it's going to work.

[Bill Burr]

A complete mystery.

[Bo Derek]

It is.

[Bill Burr]

Yes.

[Bo Derek]

I don't care how much talent you have put in. Above the line. It is an absolute.

[Bill Burr]

There's so many things.

[Bo Derek]

Roll of the dice.

[Bill Burr]

Totally. There's so many things that can fuck up a movie. Editing, you know, or you can get on the set and the actors don't like each other or one wants to do.

[Bo Derek]

That happens all.

[Bill Burr]

One wants to do 50 takes and one wants to do one.

[Bo Derek]

I know.

[Bill Burr]

What do you do then? Yeah, you know, what do you do when the chimp wants another take in Tarzan?

[Bo Derek]

Oh, my God, yes. No, it's very complicated. And you know, my husband John Corbett is a, I think a great actor and a comedic actor.

[Bill Burr]

I love him. I love him in everything he does.

[Bo Derek]

Everything he does.

[Bill Burr]

I've never seen him like, as the. Oh, you know what? He was, I think the lead in that movie with the cop movie with Keanu Reeves.

[Bo Derek]

He was in that. Yeah. So great Street Kings.

[Bill Burr]

Oh, my God, is that a great movie?

[Bo Derek]

He loved doing that.

[Bill Burr]

He's terrific in that. No, I mean, I've seen him in a million things. He seems like another one of those guys who you just like. Because again, it doesn't look like it's that important. Like he's got to go. There's not this like super intensity that's like, okay, just, you know, I'm just here for entertainment. I'm just. It's the end of the day and I want to watch something entertaining that grabs me and like, let's not pretend that this is curing cancer, you know? Yeah, that's a big disease out here.

[Bo Derek]

There's something great that I respect so much. Having been in the business of a really good working actor, having been only a movie star for kind of no reason. And the pressures are so different as against having a life showing up doing great work, making everybody happy, going home and not it being all consuming to you. And that's what he is.

[Bill Burr]

That's awesome. You probably wouldn't get along if he wasn't. I don't.

[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

No.

[Bo Derek]

And I think, I think he could normally never be with someone who's an actress because of the competition. The. Why are you still on the set? You're gonna be gone for eight weeks.

[Bill Burr]

That's why.

[Bo Derek]

I get it all.

[Bill Burr]

When I was young and like, you know, dating as much as I could when I first moved out here, late 20s, 30s, I early on stopped going out with actresses for that very reason. Like, you'd have a date and they'd cancel it because they got an audition the next day. It was like they weren't lying, they weren't trying to get out of it. It's not that they were blowing me off. They just really had an audition and that was what's important to them.

[Bo Derek]

Yeah.

[Bill Burr]

And I was great. But then I was like, no. And they're a little crazy. They are crazy. You know, I mean, they're high strung. I mean, there's a reason why actors like to stay in a state of emotional turmoil, which is not great for your real life as a you as a human being. But it's great when you're on the set because you have, you have all this that's stirring around in your gut, right?

[Bo Derek]

Yeah, you got it. So that when you firing emotionally on anything.

[Bill Burr]

So even though the scene is about how, you know, you had sex with the monkey, you know, when you were child, you know, it doesn't not something you really did, but you can channel into because that's what acting class teachers do. No, it's like. And you use that and you know I mean, I remember. Was I still acting when my. Yeah, when my. Yes. My father died. And I remember. It's kind of selfish, but, you know, how can you help the thoughts that go into your mind? I remember thinking, like, right after he died, oh, this would be a good time to have an audition for a really serious part. Because I could cry, like, so. I mean, all I can do to stop crying.

[Bo Derek]

Yeah.

[Bill Burr]

For the. You know, the few weeks after he died. And then my mother, the same thing.

[Bo Derek]

Did you?

[Bill Burr]

Well, it's funny. Like, I remember for both of them, it was like. And I think it speaks to the fact that I was fortunate and had great parents and not anything too unresolved that I was, you know, very chalked up. At the funeral, you know, I was supposed to speak. I did speak, but it was very hard to talk with the, you know, the lump in your throat. So good. That's how it should be. And then there was, like a month after that when I was home, and I'd just be doing whatever I have to do. I had to go back to work, and I'm reading or writing or whatever it is. And, like, suddenly I would just, like. And I remember thinking, I'm so glad I live alone because I'd be so embarrassed if someone was here and they just saw me suddenly start. And I'd do that for, like, a few minutes and go back to work. And that lasted for about a month, and then I was done. Not that I don't, you know, love them, but, like, that's the course of nature.

[Bo Derek]

Yeah.

[Bill Burr]

They were idiots. They were never supposed to be there forever. What's tragic is when someone predeceases the parent. That's tragic, but.

[Bo Derek]

And that'll break you. You know, when someone dies too young.

[Bill Burr]

Well, when it's your kid, yeah.

[Bo Derek]

Oh, no, I can't die, because you're

[Bill Burr]

supposed to die before.

[Bo Derek]

I don't know how. People go on sometimes.

[Bill Burr]

Right.

[Bo Derek]

Some of the circumstances.

[Bill Burr]

Not something we'll have to face. Another good reason for just my doggies. Another good reason for us doing what we're doing, man. And we're helping the planet.

[Bo Derek]

You know what? Another thing I thought of when I was thinking about having a kid. You'll get this. But other people don't. I thought. Now I'm thinking about all these different, you know, making a list in my mind about pros, cons of having a kid. I think I spend more time when I decide to have a dog, a new dog, than most people do when they have a kid.

[Bill Burr]

Me, too. And I'm at that place now. Yeah, my dog. I've always had two. One died in August.

[Bo Derek]

Oh, no.

[Bill Burr]

Poor Chico had gotten to that point where he's just. He couldn't breathe, so I had to bring in the needle and. Because dogs just don't die, because in nature, they'd be dead years before. Once they lose a step, you're dead. In nature.

[Bo Derek]

The other dogs will kill him, too, right?

[Bill Burr]

Anything will kill him. But that is, life is partly grief, and we all know that. And it's what I started to say to you when I sat down here. The fact that I'm 70 and I'm here with you today, and I feel fine. You know, we don't take that for granted at our age. The way we did when we were young, I never even thought about. And when I got sick, meaning colds, flu, which I got way more when I was younger. Yeah, me, too, because we were stupid and we lived worse. At least I did. I drank, I didn't eat the right food, didn't get sleep.

[Bo Derek]

Yeah.

[Bill Burr]

All that shit. But when I got sick, it never entered my mind, oh, this could turn into something bad. Now. If I get a hangnail, I'm like, is that the first sign of Parkinson's disease?

[Bo Derek]

And we go to the doctor every year for our blood tests and our checkups. Well, you don't.

[Bill Burr]

Oh, are you kidding? I used to have one doctor name in my, you know, at the time. Rolodex, probably. Now I have, like, 100, you know, like. Well, I mean, that's part of it, is because doctors are big fans of mine. And, like, whenever one comes up to me and it's like, oh, I'm the.

[Bo Derek]

I'm the best at this.

[Bill Burr]

Yeah. I'm like, you are my new best friend. You know what? I know I don't say this to every motherfucker who comes up to me, but you, my friend, are in my phone now. I know, and it's great. Who doesn't want a fan working on you?

[Bo Derek]

Yeah. You don't want to be a number or just a name on a file.

[Bill Burr]

I remember when Reagan got shot, which was almost the same, maybe the year after 10 came out, and his big quip, which is, oh, he's great. He was funny, you know, and he said something about to Nancy, like, make sure the doctor's a Republican, you know?

[Bo Derek]

That's so good.

[Bill Burr]

It's so good, honey.

[Bo Derek]

I didn't duck or something, too.

[Bill Burr]

Yes, honey, I forgot to duck.

[Bo Derek]

Yeah, that's right. Yeah. That's the first Time I knew that it was him and not his writers. And being prepped, I just wasn't sure until then.

[Bill Burr]

Well, Gore Vidal once said the biggest myth about Ronald Reagan was that he wasn't a good actor because they made fun of him. He was not a successful actor. He had a little run, but, you know, he also made the right choice. I thought he got out when the getting out was good. You know, there are a precious few even less with women who can endure into their 50s and 60s, and then you have to just be iconic to be working in your 70s and 80s. We're talking about Robert De Niro, Harrison Ford, Kevin Costner. Yes. If you were so big, you were iconic. Mel Gibson, you can work, but you're playing bad grandpa.

[Bo Derek]

And there are only a handful of them anyway. Not a lot.

[Bill Burr]

Right. Michael Douglas.

[Bo Derek]

And with Ronald Reagan, he was in the studio system. You didn't choose your parts.

[Bill Burr]

We take our good fortune really for granted. I say we. I mean, as a society, as people, especially as kids today, who I don't think are. Well, I don't think they realize how recently in history how much harder life was. You know, it was really tooth and claw, especially for a woman. I mean, there was no women's rights at all. And even in the West.

[Bo Derek]

No. My mom had a tough time.

[Bill Burr]

What was her situation?

[Bo Derek]

Well, born in the Depression.

[Bill Burr]

In the Depression.

[Bo Derek]

And where? In Southern Illinois. And for a single mother.

[Bill Burr]

Oh.

[Bo Derek]

And so life was tough.

[Bill Burr]

A single mom.

[Bo Derek]

But she worked really hard, my mom. Thank you. And her mom worked her whole life.

[Bill Burr]

My grandmother was a single mother. It was rare in the 20s, and she told me how rare it was. She told me when she drove. She had to. She had to. My mother was really raised by the grandparents in New York because my grandmother had to be on Long Island. That's where her job was. And she said when she was driving a car in the 20s, men would yell at her from other cars.

[Bo Derek]

For what?

[Bill Burr]

Like, you shouldn't be driving.

[Bo Derek]

Oh, no.

[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

Really?

[Bill Burr]

Right. Exactly.

[Bo Derek]

They didn't know they couldn't drive. Like.

[Bill Burr]

Well, driving was fairly new.

[Bo Derek]

Yeah.

[Bill Burr]

And the idea. Women only got the vote in the airport.

[Bo Derek]

I know. That's right.

[Bill Burr]

So we're talking about.

[Bo Derek]

And they couldn't get a credit card till, what, 60s, 70s.

[Bill Burr]

Really.

[Bo Derek]

On their own without a man signing their credit card.

[Bill Burr]

I never heard that.

[Bo Derek]

Yeah.

[Bill Burr]

Wait, come on.

[Bo Derek]

I think it's 60s. I really do.

[Bill Burr]

Women couldn't get a credit card in their own.

[Bo Derek]

I believe. I believe.

[Bill Burr]

What about that girl? I bet you she could. What about Mary Tyler Moore.

[Bo Derek]

She must have had Ed Asner signing her credit card.

[Bill Burr]

That's Mary. That's Mary Tyler Moore. Marlo Thomas is Danny Thomas. And you're right. I bet you Marlo Thomas couldn't get a credit card when she was 18. She needed Danny Thomas.

[Bo Derek]

Probably that's.

[Bill Burr]

Well, just to the point that, you know, modernity is really modern. It's really new. It really is. I mean, just a hot shower was a rarity 100 years ago.

[Bo Derek]

So, yeah, I read that stuff all the time, you know, but at the same time, I don't have a lot of faith in people.

[Bill Burr]

Me neither.

[Bo Derek]

But we are getting better. I'm saying society for all of us is better.

[Bill Burr]

And you know who did that? The pragmatists, the people, the centrists, the plotters, the people, the policy wonks. Hillary Clinton is one of these type of people. The people who just. They're really not that far on either extreme. They just want to make a situation better. They're wonky about it, which you have to be. They're not the show ponies on either extreme. They're not on Twitter. They don't care. There was a congressman who was always the best congressman. He was out here, Waxman. He did so much to advance, like, practical social agenda issues. We once asked him on the show, he was like, no, I'm busy. I was like, I fucking love this guy. I fucking. Everybody else is like, run thirsty to the microphone.

[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

Yeah, I know.

[Bill Burr]

Oh, really? You're gonna point a camera at me? I'm there. And this guy was like, you can see them perform.

[Bo Derek]

Bad actors.

[Bill Burr]

I'm a congressman. I have a job. I'm gonna do that. Thank you for the offer, but.

[Bo Derek]

But, you know, in your argument, you're leaving out capitalism.

[Bill Burr]

I love it. I love capitalism.

[Bo Derek]

I mean, that's brought us out of poverty more than anything else. More than anything else.

[Bill Burr]

I'm always trying to lecture the children on this, and I understand why they're frustrated with the economy. It does. It is a sucky kind of economy, especially in an expensive city like this. How the fuck could you live? When I moved here in 1983 from New York, where my rent was 350, I think it went up to $375. Now, of course, this is 1983. You were in Tarzan. I was on Westmount in West Hollywood. Okay, you were doing better than me. All right, we don't have to dwell on that. But, you know, you could walk the streets of West Hollywood and just look at the. Every other house Had a sign, rent for rent. You know, so there wasn't this. Everybody's just trying now to get an apartment. You have to, like bribe the person because there's so many people waiting to take that apartment. And it's like a shoebox for like 800amonth would be the least you could.

[Bo Derek]

No, inflation is.

[Bill Burr]

I don't know how these people live. No wonder they're all on OnlyFans.

[Bo Derek]

I want to know how so quickly Bill Clinton balanced the budget.

[Bill Burr]

Right. Zero. I remember the big. Remember you held that big sign with a zero on it. Right. Well, because the debit.

[Bo Derek]

Because we need that right now so we can start all over again and get a big inflation and then come back to zero.

[Bill Burr]

I mean, at some point it's going to. This balloon has got to pop. It's 39 trillion. Do you know that our GDP for the first time now, I think since World War II or maybe ever. But our debt is higher than the gdp. Yes. We. We owe more than we make as a country.

[Bo Derek]

I mean, I don't know enough about it economics to understand how that's all going to work out for us.

[Bill Burr]

It's not going to work out. But, you know, Trump's view, because he's, you know, a shystery businessman, is that when you have a debt that big, that's the debtor's problem. I mean, the person who holds the debt, because.

[Bo Derek]

The lender.

[Bill Burr]

Yeah, the lender.

[Bo Derek]

Yeah.

[Bill Burr]

Because what are you going to do? We're your partner now. Oh, you want to put us in jail? Well, then you're really not going to get your money.

[Bo Derek]

Yeah.

[Bill Burr]

So we're going to pay back 50 cents on the dollar. He's actually said that out loud.

[Bo Derek]

Yeah, he does.

[Bill Burr]

He really does. He's like, that's how you do it.

[Bo Derek]

Yeah.

[Bill Burr]

And you know what? He's not wrong. It's not morally correct, but he's not wrong. Like, if you have the choice between getting nothing and getting 50 cents on the dollar, I mean, when we had the crash in 2008, I had a lot of my money in Lehman Brothers. They were the first ones to go. And there was like, oh, well, now there's a line of people who were in Lehman Brothers and, you know, depending on how much you had in or who you blew or whatever it was, we'll see how much money you get back on the dollar. It was not 100 cents on the dollar. No, it was whatever we're gonna fucking give you on the dollar. And you just took it.

[Bo Derek]

Well, that's the debt swap in Ecuador. Oh, that's what they get. Yeah. You buy bad debt.

[Bill Burr]

You buy bad debt. I mean, this country is just so stupid. And this state is so ridiculous. This state.

[Bo Derek]

Why are we here? Because the sun, it's so beautiful.

[Bill Burr]

Because of the sun.

[Bo Derek]

You know, where I live, out in the country, it's just stunning.

[Bill Burr]

It's stunning here. It's stunning everywhere. It's just stunning. It's like you lucky from nature.

[Bo Derek]

Yeah.

[Bill Burr]

You know, just a freak of nature, this place. There's no other place you can name that's one hour away from the ocean, the mountains, the desert. You can be in Palm Springs, you can be in Big Bear, you can be swimming in the Pacific. You'll get a disease because it's polluted, but you could do it. I mean, it's just an amazing place. And the problem is that the sun here is like what oil is to oil producing countries, especially third world ones like Ecuador. It's. It seduces you. You don't have to do anything else for the people when you have oil.

[Bo Derek]

What the cartels have done to these countries, to their economies, to their corruption, to their quality of life, to the kids, young men having to be in gangs, it happens so fast. Now there is a machine that comes into a country and within a few years it's already changing. And it's very sad and it's. I'm sorry, it's all because we want to get high here, basically. And.

[Bill Burr]

And your point is.

[Bo Derek]

And my point is when the buying stops, maybe this black market, corruption, violence will stop. I want. I want drugs to be decriminalized.

[Bill Burr]

I do. I want it to be decriminalized today.

[Bo Derek]

Didn't we learn anything in the prohibition on this show?

[Bill Burr]

I want that to happen.

[Bo Derek]

Prohibition created the mafia, of course. Oh, no, we learn nothing.

[Bill Burr]

I know, but. Because there's money in it, honey. That's what it. I mean, there's so much money in keeping it illegal. And do you think the liquor.

[Bo Derek]

Why is a congressman from Sacramento wanting to keep drugs illegal?

[Bill Burr]

Because he's lobbied by the people who want to keep it illegal. Because he takes money from the liquor industry. Do you think the liquor industry wants the competition from this? If only people would understand. You can use them together and it's fantastic. You don't have to be fighting. But no, I mean anything. I mean, why did everybody have.

[Bo Derek]

Now this isn't making sense to me.

[Bill Burr]

Why did everybody have to get a Covid shot? Even people with natural immunity. Natural immunity, which we always used to respect, but In Covid. No, just get our product in you. And I'm not an anti vaxxer. I'm just somebody who wants to decide which ones I want.

[Bo Derek]

Yeah, if they had never. I remember the buildup to that. It's coming, it's coming, it's coming. And I think if they had just left it here. It is this vaccine. It's available to anybody who wants it. I think probably more people would have taken it. But when you tell Americans you must, that's a problem.

[Bill Burr]

But even more that bugs me is the natural immunity thing. I mean, for the people who were like, we're the science people. Well, there was nothing that was more settled science than natural immunity is the best. So if somebody has natural immunity, if they got this. I know a lot of people who got it. Like, they were like, oh, you know what? I got sick in like November of 2019. I bet that was Covid. Yeah, I bet it was. I bet it was. And you could test it.

[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

Okay.

[Bill Burr]

Doesn't matter. Get our shit in you. That's when I go, okay, now the fix is in. Now you're telegraphing that you just want to get your product in me as much as you can. And you know what? There are things that could come along. There's this hantavirus, now, where I want your product in me. But I want to decide.

[Bo Derek]

And you want to decide.

[Bill Burr]

I want to decide when I want your product in me. I say that about sex toys also. I want to decide.

[Bo Derek]

Yes, yes, for sure.

[Bill Burr]

I've never used a sex toy. I mean, I feel like if you have to use something.

[Bo Derek]

No judgment here.

[Bill Burr]

I told you before, Beau, we got to judge.

[Bo Derek]

I don't yet know. No, no, no, I'm saying we can judge. We can't be judgy.

[Bill Burr]

No, but you've been married twice. Both seem to. I mean, you were married to John to the end, right?

[Bo Derek]

Yeah, till he died.

[Bill Burr]

I mean, it wasn't a divorce. That was.

[Bo Derek]

No, it was till he died suddenly.

[Bill Burr]

Of what?

[Bo Derek]

Aortic dissection.

[Bill Burr]

What's that?

[Bo Derek]

That's where your aorta, it ruptures and runs like a. Like what's his name? The other. The actor? The great.

[Bill Burr]

That's what Alan. Thick. Dried up.

[Bo Derek]

Did he?

[Bill Burr]

Yes. He was a very good friend of mine and he was 69 years old and he was playing hockey with this kid, his 18 year old from the third. Third wives club. Yeah. I think they were married and she. And he just suddenly. And the heart just ripped apart.

[Bo Derek]

Yeah.

[Bill Burr]

And you know, in a way, if you have to go. That's not the worst way because you're right to the moment you die. You're living your best life. He was, he was hockey, he was Canadian, doing the thing he loved with his 18 year old kid who he loved. And then suddenly, and it was like, I remember the kid telling me, they took him into the room and they look and it was like there's nothing left. I mean we could not put this back together. And this was set in motion from the day he was born that like

[Bo Derek]

a genetic defect or something, a little

[Bill Burr]

flaw was in there from the beginning and it was just going to take the number of years it was going to and then it was going to,

[Bo Derek]

it was going to happen. Yeah. And ironically he used to. Whenever we'd see a movie or a TV show and the guy would grab his chest and say, I think I'm having a heart attack and drop dead. He always said, lucky son of a bitch. So it was weird that that's the way he went as a lucky son of a bitch. It gave me some peace that he went that way. He wasn't going to get old. He didn't like it.

[Bill Burr]

The idea of getting old, no one likes it.

[Bo Derek]

No.

[Bill Burr]

But when it comes around fast, I mean fast. And also I've heard people say, yeah, I don't want to be 75. Yeah, wait till you're 74.

[Bo Derek]

Kidding.

[Bill Burr]

I mean if it's one thing about humans, we want more. We want more life. Especially if our lives are good. Yeah, our lives are good. We're lucky.

[Bo Derek]

We're very lucky. I'm still riding horses. I don't know how long I will be riding horses.

[Bill Burr]

Right. That's my basketball. I still play basketball every day. But I don't know how long, I

[Bo Derek]

don't know how long it's going to be.

[Bill Burr]

But right now it's still great.

[Bo Derek]

And I'm in a hurry to get all I can out of it right now.

[Bill Burr]

You're in a hurry?

[Bo Derek]

I'm in a hurry to ride as much as I can travel.

[Bill Burr]

Travel?

[Bo Derek]

You know, you sit in an airport and you see I can't travel. Well, you'd fly private. Right?

[Bill Burr]

Even that I can't do.

[Bo Derek]

Why?

[Bill Burr]

I'm just, it just, I just can't.

[Bo Derek]

What do you mean you can't?

[Bill Burr]

It's just too much. I did it for, I was on the road for my whole life as a stand up comic. Every other weekend I was out, you know, dragging myself out of bed after a full week working on my show and I loved it. And I went to Cincinnati or Kansas City or wherever. And it was. But I just. You know. You just know when it's over, and I just. I understand. I like waking up every day here in California with all its flaws. Because, as I was saying, the sun's like the oil. It seduces you into accepting almost anything. And it does. I mean, I lived in New York. I grew up on the East Coast. The idea that there are almost no bad weather days here. I mean, there's rain, which we need, and I actually like, but it's pretty much confined to one season. It's. No matter how hot gets in the day, it's usually cool at night, which is awesome, as opposed to the muggy East Coast. And sun is just part of what we need to survive. It gets demonized, the sun. Like cholesterol. You know, they love to demonize these things. It's like, no, you need cholesterol, you need sun. You need some sun to convert vitamin D. And it feels good, so don't overdo it. But, you know, I remember living on the east coast, gray days.

[Bo Derek]

I was born here. I'm California. Southern California.

[Bill Burr]

Oh, you were?

[Bo Derek]

Mm.

[Bill Burr]

You were born in.

[Bo Derek]

A surfer. A sailor.

[Bill Burr]

You're a surfer and a sailor.

[Bo Derek]

I was. I don't do it anymore.

[Bill Burr]

A sailor.

[Bo Derek]

Mm. My father worked for a sailboat company.

[Bill Burr]

Oh. And a surfer.

[Bo Derek]

No. I was a lucky kid. A very lucky kid.

[Bill Burr]

Well, I'm a lucky guy to just have gotten to talk to you. I could not tell you how thrilled I was when I heard that. I said, really? She's gonna do this show. Cause I never see you do anything.

[Bo Derek]

No. At all. I'm never promoting it anymore.

[Bill Burr]

You don't need to.

[Bo Derek]

No. I'm loving my life.

[Bill Burr]

I know.

[Bo Derek]

I don't need to go back to work.

[Bill Burr]

That's the coolest thing in the world. You can be.

[Bo Derek]

It's very strange. People don't understand it because it's something that so many people. Anyway. You know that expression they would kill to do it, to be famous, to be in movies. And not for some of us.

[Bill Burr]

I know one person in the world who has no hopes and dreams, no ambitions, and is the happiest person I know.

[Bo Derek]

Yeah.

[Bill Burr]

Because everybody else is sort of tied to this. Well, if I just make my hopes and dreams come true, and very often they don't, or they're not as you dreamed them, it's very rare that your hope and dream comes. And if you're just like, no, I'm just gonna skip that part and go right to being happy.

[Bo Derek]

Yeah.

[Bill Burr]

Skip the thing. That's going to so and so make me happy.

[Bo Derek]

I love retirement.

[Bill Burr]

And go. Me too.

[Bo Derek]

I'm so happy in retirement. Who was it? It was on your show, I think. Galloway?

[Bill Burr]

Yes, Scott Galloway.

[Bo Derek]

I think he was talking about the bullshit of.

[Bill Burr]

Of course.

[Bo Derek]

Of. Do what you love and you'll never work a day in your life. No. Do what you're good at and then you'll make a good living and you can do what you want.

[Bill Burr]

And you live in Santa Barbara now?

[Bo Derek]

North of Santa Barbara. But I've been there since 81.

[Bill Burr]

Well, someday you and I should meet in the middle with our significant others. I'll meet you halfway. What's halfway? And we'll have dinner, I hope.

[Bo Derek]

Yeah.

[Bill Burr]

What's halfway? Like Ventura or all the great restaurants.

[Bo Derek]

Santa Barbara. How about Santa Barbara? Do you ever go to Santa Barbara?

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[Bill Burr]

I went to Salvang.

[Bo Derek]

Oh, yes.

[Bill Burr]

Christmas week.

[Bo Derek]

That's about what. It's funny.

[Bill Burr]

It's so funny.

[Bo Derek]

It's Christmasy around there, you know.

[Bill Burr]

Christmasy. It's a Christmas town.

[Bo Derek]

I know.

[Bill Burr]

It's a Solvang. What?

[Bo Derek]

It's Sunny Valley. It's the Danish capital of the United States.

[Bill Burr]

Exactly.

[Bo Derek]

That's why the windmills.

[Bill Burr]

Yes.

[Bo Derek]

Mini Tivoli.

[Bill Burr]

Go, sweetheart. I was just there.

[Bo Derek]

It's eight miles from there.

[Bill Burr]

Really?

[Bo Derek]

Yes.

[Bill Burr]

Okay. Well, we went there. It was the funnest day. Because they take their Christmas very seriously there.

[Bo Derek]

Yes, they do.

[Bill Burr]

And so, like, this was a week before Christmas.

[Bo Derek]

Oh, it's fun.

[Bill Burr]

Of course. Yes. It was so cute. And you know what they do? You go to the visitor center and you have to search for gnomes. This is like one of the Danish.

[Bo Derek]

Is it a game?

[Bill Burr]

Yes. They're hidden all over town and you get a thing with clues and then you gotta, like.

[Bo Derek]

You didn't do it.

[Bill Burr]

Of course I did. Of course I did. It was awesome. And we were very high.

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[Bo Derek]

I was gonna say.

[Bill Burr]

I'm not gonna say we found a lot of the gnomes, but I remember going. I was very high. I go up to the visitor center desk and then the ladies there just. Merry Christmas. I'm great. I said, we wanna talk. She said, he's not here. I said, what? This is Solvang. A week before Christmas. Are you fucking kidding me? I want to see him and I want to see him now. They were like, sir, like, we don't really get a lot of trouble here. Christmas. Are you going to be a problem? I was like, no. Okay, give me the map. We'll search for the gnomes and you'd get the clues and we'll search for the gnomes.

[Bo Derek]

That's hilarious.

[Bill Burr]

I never heard of that with you this year.

[Bo Derek]

If you want, I'm going to.

[Bill Burr]

I'm going to tell John that we're

[Bo Derek]

all going to Gnomes.

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[Bill Burr]

Gnome hunting. All right. Thank you so much. I appreciate it.

[Bo Derek]

Oh, it was fun.

[Bill Burr]

Oh, good.

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[Bill Burr]

Think so. Okay. I'm glad I got to know you.

[Bo Derek]

Yeah, that's what I love. That wasn't scary at all.

[Bill Burr]

No. And it certainly went better than the pre interview. Can you imagine the pre interview for

[Bo Derek]

that random

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