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Bill Maher
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Laura Trump
This will be just a crazy thing to say, but Donald Trump is not perfect. There is. I know. Oh, my gosh. Club Random. This is our platform.
Bill Maher
Hamas is the good guys.
Laura Trump
There you go. Who wouldn't want to go?
Bill Maher
Men can have babies. Let's do it.
Laura Trump
Yes. Hello.
Bill Maher
Hi.
Laura Trump
Hey, Bill. How are you?
Bill Maher
Well, I was a little nervous. I was gonna get shot walking over.
Laura Trump
Stop it.
Bill Maher
Well, I saw all the security. How are you? Great to meet you, Laura. You too.
Laura Trump
Thank you.
Bill Maher
Thanks for coming.
Laura Trump
Absolutely.
Bill Maher
Love a guest who's on time. I love a guest who.
Laura Trump
See, look at us work early.
Bill Maher
I love a guest who says yes.
Laura Trump
Okay. Well, I heard you didn't like leather pants. And I'll be honest, I had a leather skirt on earlier.
Bill Maher
I know. Who told you that? Okay. Cheryl Hines.
Laura Trump
She sure did.
Bill Maher
You talk to her about it?
Laura Trump
I didn't Talk to her. But I heard about it.
Bill Maher
Okay.
Laura Trump
So I just wanted to come correct, you know.
Bill Maher
Well, no, no, no. First of all, it's not a blanket thing about leather pins. We were just talking. I forget what we were talking about. I know what I meant. Or where it came from, which is like in a romantic relationship, it's just too thick. Oh. You know, when you touch.
Laura Trump
Nonetheless, I wore jeans, so I think we're good.
Bill Maher
You look great.
Laura Trump
Thank you.
Bill Maher
You always look good.
Laura Trump
We try.
Bill Maher
Yeah.
Laura Trump
You know, you do your best.
Bill Maher
Can I get you something?
Laura Trump
And I'm set right now. I feel like you drink. I mean, I've had a couple of drinks before.
Bill Maher
Yeah.
Laura Trump
Yeah.
Bill Maher
No, but I mean, like, do you. I mean, like my mother, right to the end, you know, 88 would always have the five o'. Clock.
Laura Trump
Oh. I don't make it a daily occurrence. I try to limit myself, but, you know.
Bill Maher
No, in my parents, World War II generation, you know, the cocktail hour was, you know, five. They would.
Laura Trump
Yeah. Did they drink Manhattan's?
Bill Maher
Manhattan was a popular drink at the time. No, my father drank what he would call a very dry martini, which is gin. A glass of gin was called a very dry martini. But, you know, that generation, if you drank like 5 minutes before 5 o', clock, you were an alcoholic. But I mean, they were just like. You'd see the salivation come down as they looked at the clock as five o'. Clock. You could have.
Laura Trump
That was their way of dealing with things. I feel like that generation, man, they went through a lot.
Bill Maher
A lot.
Laura Trump
You know, And I feel like today, few people appreciate that. We've kind of softened up a little bit. So maybe we should give them their drink. Oh, they deserved it.
Bill Maher
Oh. I mean, my parents both were in World War II. My mother was a nurse. My father was in Pat's army, you know.
Laura Trump
That's so cool.
Bill Maher
Yeah, it's cool if you live through it.
Laura Trump
I mean, it's. See, I find that era so fascinating and I find I can't learn enough about it. My grandfather served in the South Pacific. He was in the Navy, and he died when I was like a year old. But I always think how cool it would have been to hear directly from him, his stories. And we're. I mean, there are so few who are still alive from that generation that it's almost like totally done.
Bill Maher
But now.
Laura Trump
Yeah, it's. I mean, what a. It really was the greatest generation.
Bill Maher
So cool. Yeah. Certainly the toughest.
Laura Trump
Yeah.
Bill Maher
But, you know, I talked to my mother about it and she said we were not tough until it was thrust upon us.
Laura Trump
Well, yeah. They had no other choice.
Bill Maher
Right. I mean, first I got hit with the depression.
Laura Trump
Yeah.
Bill Maher
And, you know, when. That's when my parents were kids in the 30s, you know, and it's probably even tougher on kids, but, you know, I have my mother's old letters to her mother who had to work out on Long Island. My mother was left in New York with the husband. I mean, my grandmother's husband. He was in a cab as soon as my mother was born. So she was like a single mother in the 20s, which was not the usual.
Laura Trump
Yeah.
Bill Maher
And I remember my grandmother telling me she was driving and men would yell at her, you know, because she was driving. Yes. They thought that was highly inappropriate, a woman driving.
Laura Trump
Good for her for keeping on driving. I like it. I'm about that. That sounds good.
Bill Maher
And now Mohammed bin Salman is at the White House and he's letting women drive. You see him calm, Bill.
Laura Trump
It's full circle. Do you understand what's happening? Yeah.
Bill Maher
So were you at that dinner?
Laura Trump
No, I was not. Where was I?
Bill Maher
Are you usually at those dinners?
Laura Trump
Not usually, no. No. I mean, my life is so crazy. Don't get me wrong. We always get the invite, but Eric and I are both incredibly busy. You know, we're working hard all the time on all of our own stuff, so to kind of drop everything and go there, you know, when we can do what we do. But not always. It doesn't always work out.
Bill Maher
I should have dropped everything and went there when I got invited.
Laura Trump
You did, But I heard that was a great dinner. I love this.
Bill Maher
I was looking at this earlier. You know what that is, right?
Laura Trump
I do know what that is.
Bill Maher
Did you hear my report on that?
Laura Trump
Tell me.
Bill Maher
Oh, I have to send it to you. You should see what I said about it, because, you know, it made everybody crazy on the left. I know, and they still are. And, you know, it's so funny. This is a little surreal because, you know, Friday is our last show of the season. It's right before Thanksgiving, is when we always get our winter break. So, you know, the Thanksgiving show, I'm over there waiting for you to come, and I'm writing, you know, the end of the show, what we call our editorial there at the end. And, you know, it's a. At this time of year for this show. There's like. I've done the same topic, I feel like, every year, because I have to, because there's only one topic that's sort of appropriate, which is it's Thanksgiving, be with your family. Don't cut off your family.
Laura Trump
Agreed.
Bill Maher
I know you do.
Laura Trump
Yeah, I know. Yeah.
Bill Maher
Even when there's a lot of things we don't agree on, and there's certainly a lot of things your father in law does that I don't like and he has let me know.
Laura Trump
I'm sure he has.
Bill Maher
Oh, yes. But you know, when I. But here's the difference. I'll tell you the difference. When I went there, I brought that. That is a page of 56 different. Just the mind of a man who could come up with those many off the top of his head. No, this is of course over many years.
Laura Trump
Of course.
Bill Maher
But still, it's just like I couldn't come up with that many variations if I tried.
Laura Trump
Very creative. He's very creative. Yeah.
Bill Maher
No Mojo, nervous, low life dummy. So called comedian. Not a smart guy. Better than Salmanex. Fired like a dog, dumbass.
Laura Trump
I mean, is that your Donald Trump impression? Cause I kind of like it.
Bill Maher
It's not that good. But the fact that he got. So he signed.
Laura Trump
Yeah.
Bill Maher
Okay. So then we went in and you know, he was nice right away. You know, this again, this is what the left hated, that I would not lie and say that, you know, I said a crazy person doesn't live in the White House. A person who plays a crazy person on TV sometimes I think lives in the White House. But you know, and this is what many people have reported, but like we went after the Oval Office and he showed me every inch of that White House, I must say.
Laura Trump
Oh, he's very proud.
Bill Maher
Oh, very proud.
Laura Trump
First of all, he's very proud to be in the White House and he appreciates the history there and what it all means so much.
Bill Maher
Oh, boy.
Laura Trump
Yeah. I mean, he really does. For anyone who has any question whether or not he respects it and what he respects it so much. And he is still, for a guy who has Trump Tower, who has Mar A Lago, who has all of these amazing properties around the world, he is still awestruck, by the way.
Bill Maher
You can tell.
Laura Trump
Yeah.
Bill Maher
Which is funny because when he first got there, the report, I don't know if it was true, maybe you know, was that he said it's a dump.
Laura Trump
Oh, my God. Of course not.
Bill Maher
Never said that. No, that certainly was in the press.
Laura Trump
Well, everything out in the press.
Bill Maher
No, no, no, absolutely not. But I'm just saying that's like. He was like. And I thought, oh, well, you know what? The parts of the White House are small. Not the part he showed me. I didn't realize that the living quarters section is such a big palace.
Laura Trump
Beautiful.
Bill Maher
But I had been in the other side, the working. And that is small. It's smaller than yours. It's old. The rooms. And there was mice and, like, lots of. I thought, well, this guy's been, you know, surrounded. He's always in luxury. I mean, now it looks like Saddam's palace, for Christ's sake.
Laura Trump
It's very gilded. It's very dominant. Trump. Yes, it's very gilded.
Bill Maher
Now, he does love gold.
Laura Trump
But I. Can I tell you, I. I give you a lot of credit for going there because. And for, by the way, being honest about it, because I think that there is a lot of pressure on people, especially in. In your space and in the public eye, to immediately try to attack him. And for you to say yes, to go to a dinner there and for you to then say, you know what? He's not a total lunatic. Like, everybody wants to report and to put this up and out. I think it's. I think it's great. I'm so happy you did that and.
Bill Maher
Never pulling a punch. Mike. The people. It's so funny. He texted me a couple. I don't think I'm telling tales out of school. I would not betray any private confidence I've had with him, but I don't think this is very personal. But he texted me a few weeks ago, yelling at me for, you know, because, you know, I. You know, I say to my critics on the left, just, couldn't you at least wait to see if I was seduced by this dinner? Because I never was. I went right back to doing my job, which is calling him out on the stuff where I think he is very wrong. And there's a long list of it. A lot of it is not basically the idea of addressing a problem, which I think he very often has good instincts to address this. It's how he's doing it. We can talk about that or not if you want, but what the. And so I never stopped with that. So he's yelling at me about how, you know, he said, you know, I guess you forgot our dinner, and, you know, you've been, you know, captured by the lunatic left. And I said, I wrote back always, respectfully. How could I forget about our dinner? The people who hate me for it never let me forget it.
Laura Trump
I'm sure they do.
Bill Maher
One fucking day.
Laura Trump
Yeah, I'm sure.
Bill Maher
Okay. So I could not have forgotten about it. But. But you know what? I'm not gonna stop doing my job. And he gets it at Least for me, he does. No, I think so. You know, it did not end. It was a bit of an exchange. It did not end nasty or I'm cutting you off. And the difference is, since that dinner, not one public thing there. And also, I'll tell you this, I've never said this publicly, but it's true. We went into the little merch room after the Oval Office and he started yelling at me about the bit I did many years ago about the orangutan, because, you know, he was. And I did not say sorry because it was a satire in response to his demanding Obama's birth certificate, which I thought was wrong and racist and not cool. And, you know, he absolutely accepted that. And then I. And then I said, but you know what? I will also admit, not that one, but yes. Have I taken some cheap shots? I have, and that's not necessary. And by the way, I'm kind of bored with it. You've been on the public stage here for 10 years more before he was run for president. And since then, no jokes about his weight, no jokes about his hair, his makeup, his nothing. Melania, I have enough on my plate with the policy. I don't have to go there. So I thought, like, you know, this is how people bridge.
Laura Trump
Yeah.
Bill Maher
They. You make a little thing here. I make a little move this way. It doesn't hurt me. It doesn't hurt you. And I like it better. I like sticking to this. I'm not. I forget who I was telling this to. That. My writers, you know, they were giving me all these jokes about something was going on with his hand.
Laura Trump
And I said, the hand.
Bill Maher
Save yourself. I'm 70. That could be my hand tomorrow.
Laura Trump
It's true. Absolutely.
Bill Maher
I'm not making fun of physical deformities and that stuff.
Laura Trump
That was good for you.
Bill Maher
It was fun for a minute and, you know, but like, yeah, I don't need it. And if that would. If we can, like, do that on a bigger basis, where people are talking and giving, you know, somebody has to give a little somewhere.
Laura Trump
Exactly. I agree.
Bill Maher
Well, but your side doesn't either.
Laura Trump
Well, I think our side has also been really beaten down in a lot of ways and unfairly represented and attacked in so many ways. And I think that people. I feel like we're kind of coming to a place where it's leveling a little bit. But I think that, you know, for a lot of people in this country, they felt for a long time like they didn't have a voice and they didn't have. They couldn't get on top of anything if you were conservative. And so I kind of feel like things are kind of balancing a little bit. And you know what? I will give. I will say people doing what you've done helps that so much. It really does help it so much. Because I think we need to remember, at the end of the day, no.
Bill Maher
One else is doing what that I'm doing.
Laura Trump
No, I agree with you.
Bill Maher
Everybody else is in their fucking bubble.
Laura Trump
We need it.
Bill Maher
Yeah, we do more of it.
Laura Trump
I'm here, Bill. I came here.
Bill Maher
I appreciate it. And I always give the conservatives their props on that. I say it almost every time a conservative is on the show or comes here.
Laura Trump
Yeah, you know, I mean, I'm willing to sit down and talk to anybody.
Bill Maher
Ask any conservative. Unfortunately, we can't ask Charlie Kirk, who was here.
Laura Trump
That's right.
Bill Maher
Matt Gaetz. Marjorie Taylor Greene was on Real Time, either here or on this show. Ask any of them. They will always. Ted Cruz. They will always say, we had a good time. Yeah, we had a good time. You know, there are people who I wouldn't have here, like that little prick Nick Fuentes.
Laura Trump
That is a. An unfortunate individual. And I hate that he gets associated so closely with, you know, the MAGA movement, with my father in law with all of this stuff, because that we.
Bill Maher
Should denounce him more forcefully.
Laura Trump
Well, I mean, maybe you're right, but he is certainly not the. Not the representative that I think any of us should be.
Bill Maher
In many ways, I would hope. One of the problems with your father in law is, like, if anybody likes him, he has a real hard time not liking them.
Laura Trump
That's true.
Bill Maher
I mean, and that has led him to some bad things that may be true, which you know what I'm one of. I'm not the only liberal who said there's enough to attack him for the thing about fine people on both sides. I mean, even Sam Harris, another liberal, has made the case. I've made. Like it's not the full statement.
Laura Trump
Of course it's not.
Bill Maher
Don't get him on that.
Laura Trump
Oh, I'll go all day on that.
Bill Maher
I know. No, and what that is is just this thing of him. Anybody who likes me, I can't quite denounce. But this Fuentes prick, like Trump is not Hitler. No, I mean, Larry David said, I had dinner with Hitler because it was such a bullshit thing. Trump is not Hitler. This Fuentes kid, that's Hitler.
Laura Trump
No, that's. That. There's nothing, Nothing I will say that I've heard come out of his Mouth that I think I agree with or many people who consider themselves maga. And quite frankly, that the fact that he's got a Trump flag up behind him shouldn't say that we agree with him. That's unfortunate. We need to get you a new lighter. What happened around here? We got anybody with a lighter?
Bill Maher
Someday somebody's gonna explain.
Laura Trump
Is this a sign you should stop smoking, Bill?
Bill Maher
No, no, definitely not. Bite your tongue. Oh, my Zippo lighters. They're so cool and they'd never work. Unless I'm not giving you the this.
Laura Trump
Could be a maha moment for you. Maybe. We wanna make Bill healthy again.
Bill Maher
I had RFK there too.
Laura Trump
See? What did he say about this smoking?
Bill Maher
I don't know. But at one point he cried.
Laura Trump
Oh, my God.
Bill Maher
Yeah, I think we were talking about his father's. I mean, I wasn't trying to be Barbara Walters, but.
Laura Trump
Maybe you are. Deep down. Little did you know.
Bill Maher
Maybe I am. But no, he was. I mean, you know, I like Bobby. It's another one. Where can I go along with all of it? No, of course not, because some of it's whack.
Laura Trump
But what do you not like that he's doing well?
Bill Maher
I mean, I'm someone who again, has been a accused for many years. Way before you people got on the scene of being an anti people, an anti vaxxer.
Laura Trump
Oh. Even though were you accused of that.
Bill Maher
Before a lot of this shit came along. That was their main thing against me.
Laura Trump
Really?
Bill Maher
Yes. And I'm not an anti vaxxer. I just said I would never get a flu shot because first of all, the flu is always shifting.
Laura Trump
Correct. You don't even know what strain is out there. Neither do the people who manufacture the vaccine.
Bill Maher
You're getting the strain from the last one.
Laura Trump
Correct.
Bill Maher
So it's not. And I remember I got a flu shot once and immediately got the flu.
Laura Trump
I feel like everyone tells me that my mom told me that my mom was a nurse for forever and she told me years ago, she was like, I just don't get the flu shot anymore because every time I've ever gotten it, I get the flu immediately after it.
Bill Maher
Also, I believe that I should have to be. Have the right to choose. I shouldn't. The coercion that went on during COVID I was not down with that.
Laura Trump
Terrible, terrible.
Bill Maher
Okay, so you can see why the left is very skeptical of me on that issue. I'm still not where RFK is. And where is he? I don't know. Because he'll say one thing and then I'm like, look, I'm reading it out of your book, you know, like, do you. I said to him, you said, you know, all vaccines. You're against all vaccines. That's what you think? I said, yeah, you wrote it. You know what I mean?
Laura Trump
But he, you know, but he can have his opinion. And then there's public policy as well. And I think that for so many people who, like, look at the people who lost their jobs because they didn't get the COVID vaccine, all the problems it caused. Right. There should be a space where we understand that you are not gonna be forced into anything and you can decide for yourself. And I think a lot of parents feel very strongly about that as well. But look, whether you're talking about the root causes of autism or the fact that he's bringing transparency to a space like our food supply, I agree. I mean, oh my God, what are we feeding our kids? What are we eating out there?
Bill Maher
I've been much more supportive of him than most, certainly from the liberal side.
Laura Trump
Yeah.
Bill Maher
Because I am on the page and have been for a very long time, of much more holistic medicine than western medicine. I've been very critical of western medicine. I remember having Howard Dean. Do you remember him?
Laura Trump
Of course.
Bill Maher
Okay. I remember having him.
Laura Trump
The shout that lost him the whole.
Bill Maher
Thing was that the stupidest was that.
Laura Trump
That'S exactly where my mind went.
Bill Maher
That's what I remember. That's like the moment.
Laura Trump
You're right, that's the moment. Yeah.
Bill Maher
But I remember arguing with him about the pharmaceutical food industrial complex in this country and why we're really sick. And so I've been on Bobby's page.
Laura Trump
Okay, I like that.
Bill Maher
Yeah, I like it too.
Laura Trump
So what are you doing? What do you do in your life?
Bill Maher
But he's also said things that I think are just crazy. I mean, he just goes to crazy places. I don't think your father in law agrees with him on everything.
Laura Trump
Well, he doesn't agree with anybody on everything. No two people think exactly alike, Right? Yeah. I think that it's such a unique moment though, where we are actually seeing people who have the only skin they have in the game is for the American people. I really feel like whether you're talking about Bobby Kennedy, whether you're talking about Donald Trump, they want transparency in a lot of these places where it feels like for a long time no one did, you know, the pharmaceutical industry and all of these people giving money and kickbacks and this, that and the other, to essentially keep us sick instead of getting us more healthy.
Bill Maher
I'M sorry, but I have. I can't let this conversation go ahead.
Laura Trump
Do it.
Bill Maher
Oh, I'm going to.
Laura Trump
Tell me. What do you want to ask?
Bill Maher
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Bill Maher
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Laura Trump
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Bill Maher
I mean, you know, always with respect, but like to be talking about always American people and no, I mean the Trump family has gotten really rich this first year in the White House.
Laura Trump
And, and why is that?
Bill Maher
Well, a lot of people would say because they're doing things that people are not supposed to be in government who are in government doing. Like starting crypto company where people can funnel money and we don't know how it comes. I mean it does look a lot like influence peddling. It really does. And they and their. And Their net worth has gone up a lot.
Laura Trump
You want to know why my family got into cryptocurrency? It was because we were debanked. Because whenever you take the ability away from people to utilize a bank in the way that has been done in perpetuity, for no bank would take your money. Well, look at what they did to the Trump Organization. Look what they did to my father in law. You know, my husband Eric runs the Trump Organization. And pretty much overnight he had banks say, you know what, we are unfortunately not going to be able to do business with you anymore. These are banks that had been, you know, with the company for decades. You are talking about thousands of employees who need a paycheck. You're talking about utilities, you're talking about buildings. Like the whole scope of things comes out of a bank and all of a sudden overnight you have to transfer all of that. Eric and I, you know, when we got our house in Florida, we're basically told, yeah, we approved your mortgage. Oh wait, we changed our mind. We're not going to, we're not going to give you a mortgage. The things that happened to us, is it recently? This is when this is in 2021. The things that happened to our family were really outrageous.
Bill Maher
And actually you couldn't get a mortgage in 2021.
Laura Trump
Well, had a mortgage and then all of a sudden it was denied. Yeah, in Florida, in, well, we were buying a house in Florida, but it was a big bank. If you read my husband's book, Under Siege, this is one of the reasons he wrote this book. But it was, it was moment after moment like that. And we had a lot of friends who were starting to invest in the crypto space. Cryptocurrency is something that a lot of people like because you can't be debanked because the government doesn't have any ability to say, you know what, we're not going to allow you to get your money out. It is basically autonomy for your money. And so my husband started really investigating and getting into the crypto space and that's why our family got into it. It has absolutely nothing to do. And what, and what person in government in our family has, has enriched themselves based off of this? The only people who are doing it are my husband.
Bill Maher
Haven't they made millions on crypto coins?
Laura Trump
They've made a lot of money for themselves, but my father in law's introduced a couple coins. But that's, I, I don't know, I don't know the, the specifics on coins. I can tell you the Company that my husband and brother in law are involved in has absolutely nothing to do with the federal government. Well, I mean, but people, people I'm sure love to say that though I'm not well.
Bill Maher
And do reports on it. You mean 60 minutes did it last week. I mean about a pardon that was given to the Binance. Is that the guy, the Chinese gentleman? You must have seen this story. Okay, it does look, excuse me, like this administration more than any. Look, none of them are perfect and all.
Laura Trump
More than any.
Bill Maher
Wait, wait, I haven't said of what yet. More than anything in this regard. Not that other administrations don't have their soft spot for people who are loyal to them. They are. This more than any I've ever seen. And I've been covering this quite a long time. Looks like you get one treatment if you're a friend of the President and one treatment if you don't. I mean to go after someone for checking the wrong box on the mortgage application. I am sure that there are people who are Republicans, good Republicans who have. If you went through there mortgage applications for the last 40 years, you would find a lot of them who checked the wrong box. The one that said, oh, you know what, I have two houses and I listed them both as a primary residence, which like everybody does. But they don't go after those people. You see what I'm saying?
Laura Trump
Who are you referring to in this one?
Bill Maher
Well, he's going after two people now. We just found out this week. And I don't even like this guy. Congressman Eric Swalwell had him on the show. I thought, wow, this guy is just way too hungry, Thirsty.
Laura Trump
I think the kids thirsty. The kids do say thirsty.
Bill Maher
He's thirsty. And just too, I mean two left for me, you know, like California and so like did I cry crocodile tears? No, but like he and Letitia James, I think in New York, I mean we're talking about checking the wrong box on a. If you're gonna do that, let's go through everybody's mortgage. Cause I think you'll find some people on your side who might have done that.
Laura Trump
Well, I can, I can promise you this. Our family has been scrutinized, attacked under a microscope, I would probably argue more than any family.
Bill Maher
Well, of course. Because your grand, your father in law is the president. Yeah.
Laura Trump
It's not just that he's the president, that he's Donald Trump as the president. I mean they've gone after all of us in success. They will go after everybody an aggressive way.
Bill Maher
You know, they didn't go After Obama and Clinton in an aggressive way.
Laura Trump
If you not like this, Bill.
Bill Maher
Oh, please. Really?
Laura Trump
How did, how, when did you see Clinton, Obama and Clinton's residences, personal, private property raided by the FBI? When did they have indictments against them to put them in jail for the rest of their life? That everybody can agree were a little outrageous. Bill. Like really?
Bill Maher
I agree on the. Don't, don't go into somebody's bathroom. But also you shouldn't probably keeping files in your bathroom. But yes, that was over the top.
Laura Trump
It was a little over the top.
Bill Maher
Over the top, yeah. But if you're asking why they didn't go after Obama and Clinton for certain things, because Clinton and Obama never got on the phone and said, I need you to find me. 11,000 votes. That is as close to a smoking gun as I can imagine for something that I would say, wait a second. I do agree we should give presidents broad latitude. We don't want to become those South American countries where you're just always putting the last guy in jail. I agree, but that one, come on, you just can't do that. You just can't call up a state after an election's over and say, look, you gotta find me. You can't find votes. We vote, we tab, light them up, we count them. And then.
Laura Trump
Well, no one knows this better than I do because I was the co chair of the RNC and I worked really hard on election integrity last year, Bill. I'll say that. What did you think of Tulsi Gabbard's report that came out about what Obama did, though, after the 2016 election?
Bill Maher
What did he do when. Oh, I know. Yeah, yeah, he investigated.
Laura Trump
He essentially made sure that Donald Trump was not only spied on, but also encouraged the Russia collusion hoax, which is written in textbooks around this country, that the reason that Donald Trump won the 2016 election was because Russia helped him win. Russia colluded with the Trump campaign. Do you know the saddest part of all of that to me? Having worked as hard as we all did in that election and campaign, none of us knew anything about politics. We came in very green, very naive. There were so many staffers, people who really just believed in the cause, who were so hurt, had their lives destroyed because they had to lawyer up. They had to protect themselves and fight back and defend themselves from something that never even happened. And those are real problems as well. And unfortunately, there really hasn't been any sort of accountability for any of that. But it really tore our country apart. It really put a stain on so much of the first administration.
Bill Maher
Yes, but again, it's not like there wasn't smoke there that would make people think maybe we should investigate if there's a fire. I mean, I think it was your own husband who at one point said, we get most of our financing from Russia. It was either him or Don Jr said that there was a. It's a quote from them.
Laura Trump
From the company? No, no one for the company or for the campaign.
Bill Maher
This is before. This is like back. They said this back, like in the early part of the century. You never were familiar with that. We get most of our financing from Russia.
Laura Trump
So when you're talking about a company. But what happened during the campaign that made you think that there was some sort of collusion with Russia?
Bill Maher
He said publicly, Russia, if you're listening. I mean, you know, he said it out loud. I heard it. And then Russia did something the next day. They hacked the emails the next day. I mean, it was, you know, certainly you're right. It divided this country in a way that we're never going to recover from.
Laura Trump
I mean, we were afraid to hang out with people we knew who were Russian because we were like, did we collude with Russian? We didn't even know it.
Bill Maher
He said one of his first press conferences, like, I don't know anybody from Russia. And then there's like, you knew everybody from Russia. We've never had any meetings. Turned out everybody had meetings with Russians. Everybody had meetings with Russia.
Laura Trump
But it also turned out that Hillary Clinton in an email also was very happy to have the FBI just kind of sprinkle some, some crumbs out to make it look like the Donald Trump and the Trump campaign colluded with Russia. That's also a problem.
Bill Maher
Well, that's politics, of course. You're going to take. If a guy actually says out loud, russia, if you're listening, please help me, then you're going to use that in the campaign. I don't think that's. That's should be a big surprise.
Laura Trump
Tens of millions of dollars in the Mueller report later. And we know that Donald Trump and our campaign did not collude with Russia yet. That was.
Bill Maher
Well, that's not exactly what the Mueller report said. They did not say that word. But he didn't. Mueller made it, went out of his way to say, I'm not saying he's innocent. I'm just saying I can't prove it and I'm not going to. I wouldn't take this case forward. And that's a lot because Mueller was sort of, like, they picked, like, the kind of over the Hill guy who had lost his fastball there.
Laura Trump
That could be true. But I can tell you with 100% certainty, Bill, there was zero collusion with Russia. We worked our asses off on that campaign. And when I tell you, well, both.
Bill Maher
Things could be true. You could have worked your asses off, and there could have been. Listen, Putin said he wanted.
Laura Trump
Oh, my God, he did.
Bill Maher
He said he wanted him to win. They asked him.
Laura Trump
So that doesn't mean we colluded with him. No, a lot of people say that.
Bill Maher
That doesn't mean you all met in a room and twirled your mustaches and flipped your black cape. It just means that some people know they have common interests. I mean, we do know that there were lots of Russians who were purposely putting stuff on the Internet that weren't directly pro Trump. Always. They were just designed to, like, foment anger in America. They were just things to get people fighting because they knew that the more we had this impression that things were falling apart, it was probably gonna be better for the. For the insurgent candidate, by the way.
Laura Trump
You know who else does that is China. They love to tear this country apart. They love to see us at each other's throats, just in general, but that's to enrich themselves. That's to benefit China, so they can usurp us as the power.
Bill Maher
Well, one thing we totally agree on is I love America.
Laura Trump
Amen.
Bill Maher
That's my team.
Laura Trump
That's my team, too.
Bill Maher
I know. Yeah, I know.
Laura Trump
Yeah.
Bill Maher
And I don't give any quarter to the leftists who just constantly downgrade America. It's another reason why they hate me. I mean, this is what I said to them in your frontal. In the text. It's like, you know, if I'm so captured by the lunatic left, why did they hate me, too?
Laura Trump
God, does everyone hate you, Bill?
Bill Maher
Everyone is not fair. Yes, exactly.
Laura Trump
You're all right.
Bill Maher
That's how you know you're doing the right thing.
Laura Trump
Maybe that's true.
Bill Maher
Maybe that's true when they both have an issue with you.
Laura Trump
Yeah.
Bill Maher
That's also why the people who like me like me a lot.
Laura Trump
Yeah.
Bill Maher
From both sides. And the people in the middle who just have had enough of people in their bubbles. You know, I find it very frustrating that I cannot get the full story anywhere in the old media. It's very. I mean, I love the new Free Press. My girl, Bari Weiss, has started that, and now she runs cbs. And, you know, you're seeing a change there.
Laura Trump
That's more for positive.
Bill Maher
I mean, I've been very tough on the media and do you like the biases? Isn't I cry no tears. We're losing npr and.
Laura Trump
Yeah, don't cry any tears over that. I don't, no. I think that's probably better.
Bill Maher
I don't know why you need the Kennedy Center.
Laura Trump
Do you like the independent journalists in the press room?
Bill Maher
What does that mean?
Laura Trump
That means.
Bill Maher
Oh, in your press room.
Laura Trump
Yeah, in the White House press room, not mine. But you know, maybe one day, Bill, we'll all keep the Trump train running. Everyone would like that.
Bill Maher
Well, I know you were a very serious contestant. You could have run for governor in North Carolina, right?
Laura Trump
Senate. Senate. I was considering to run for Senate in North Carolina or Florida.
Bill Maher
Right. Marco Rubiosi.
Laura Trump
Marco Rubiosi.
Bill Maher
So why did you say, why did you deter?
Laura Trump
I gotta be honest, it was one of the hardest decisions of my life. And it's funny because my father in law told me after I decided our family ultimately moved to Florida instead of North Carolina, we left. We, we made our home base Florida instead of New York in 2021 when I told you about the mortgage situation and it was just a better fit for us so, you know, we weren't going to live in North Carolina. And I said, this is not the time for that. And then Marco's seat came up and I took it very seriously. I had many conversations with him and he was incredibly generous with his time and to explain everything to me and encourage me. And my father in law is the one who said to me, he was like, you know, you're the only person who could have walked into a Senate seat and the only person to turn it down. And I was like, oh, well, maybe there'll be another chance. Honey, there'll never be another chance. That's it, you're done. And then Marco Rubio's seat came up and I was like, a lot of people were really heavily pushing me in that direction and God, I mean, it would have been amazing. And I've never had a harder decision than that. Or, you know, at the same time I was in talks with Fox to have a show there and I ultimately decided because my kids are so young. Yeah, they were at the time 5 and 7. They're now 6 and 8 and you know, they still want to hang out with me.
Bill Maher
Yeah.
Laura Trump
And you don't get all that, that much time with your kids. I think they say 80% of the time you spend with your children is up until they're like 16 and then after that, it's basically, that's the 20% is like after that and beyond. So they're still in an age where they want to be around me. I think, you know, there's no more important role I'll ever have than that of mom. And so I ultimately decided, because my kids, that this wasn't the time for it.
Bill Maher
Well, also, you know, apropos of our discussion a few minutes ago, no matter who you are, if you run, oh, you are volunteering to go through 100 a gauntlet on both sides. They do it on. Do it on both sides.
Laura Trump
Oh, look, we got a Donald Trump impression. I like that. That's great. No, you're right.
Bill Maher
They do.
Laura Trump
You're right.
Bill Maher
And you are, you're just. I mean, you saw what Michelle Obama said this week.
Laura Trump
Yeah, I don't totally agree with that.
Bill Maher
I think I completely disagree with President.
Laura Trump
Yeah, she's.
Bill Maher
If people don't know, and we're going to talk about it on my show Friday, I think, I mean, she said, you know, don't even ask me to run for president because we're not ready for it. And we prove that and the country needs to grow up. And that is not my take on this. My take on this is. Well, first of all, it's not a scientific fact that the two women of the Democrats ran. Lost because they're women. Which is exactly what the premise of your comment is. We ran women and they didn't win. Well, first of all, Hillary did win the popular vote.
Laura Trump
Oh, she did. But she didn't become president.
Bill Maher
Hillary, I understand. Yeah, I understand. He pulled an inside straight and you can't. He's the luckiest motherfucker alive, okay? But he won fair and square. That's our system. But this idea that, you know, we just a priori say, well, they were women, they didn't win, so we're not ready for a woman. I mean, I remember, excuse me, when a lot of people said we weren't ready for a black president and somebody, I can't remember who it was. Maybe Michelle could help me with that escaping me.
Laura Trump
Maybe Michelle Obama knows.
Bill Maher
Maybe she knows, could, you know, a guy said, that's what people say. And I'm going to prove him wrong. I'm going to be the guy that America does say. Oh, yeah. So I do think there could be a woman President.
Laura Trump
100%.
Bill Maher
Yes, I do.
Laura Trump
And I actually, as a woman, I hate the idea that anything is centered around being a woman. What I would love is for a woman to run for president and Literally. Bill, never talk about the fact that she's a woman. Because guess what? Who cares? You either have ideas and policies that matter and that are gonna be effective and you prove that you're a good leader and people are gonna vote for you. But to say the problem, I think.
Bill Maher
Well, that's a nice theory in fairyland, but in reality, people are tribal and they certainly, I mean, look, Michelle Obama was not right to say that. But it's also true that I'm not going to name names, but there are certain cultures, shall we say, that are still quite macho. Shall we say that?
Laura Trump
May you shall you can.
Bill Maher
Yeah, okay, sure. So, I mean, you know the dude who's visiting the White House this week, I mean, the women there are not. We would not call them in our society equal citizens.
Laura Trump
I also do.
Bill Maher
Their view of women is quite different.
Laura Trump
Correct. The good news is we live in America.
Bill Maher
Yes, we do. But not everyone who does live in America, there are still a lot of knuckle draggers.
Laura Trump
That's true.
Bill Maher
Who. And I'm not just talking about the MAGA white people crowd. Wink, wink. There's lots of. When it comes to macho and not thinking women should be president and I mean there's lots of cultures. I'm not maiming names, I agree with you. But they run the gamut, shall we say?
Laura Trump
But I don't think, I still don't think that it is. I think we are at a time in our country where people, people are ready for that.
Bill Maher
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Laura Trump
I agree.
Bill Maher
Like you didn't feel comfortable there and that's wrong. And look, I never stop ragging on liberals and woke people. Not liberals. I'm a liberal. These people are different for just being fucking snobs. This is the I won't eat with you at Thanksgiving people. This is the no contact thing. Yeah, but you know, lots of liberals wouldn't be comfortable at a NASCAR rally either. I mean there are places where, you know. But I will say, and this is something I'm gonna say Friday night, the liberals are worse about this. I will admit it. And we have to look in the mirror on that one. We are just worse at the snobby thing at the I don't know any conservatives who don't at least talk.
Laura Trump
Right.
Bill Maher
You know now Maybe that's because you won. Maybe that's. Cause it's easy.
Laura Trump
There was a time where we didn't.
Bill Maher
And you still came. It's true.
Laura Trump
Yes, there was a time we did.
Bill Maher
They're happy warriors. I remember that term when I was a kid. Like that was somebody who was like. And that's what Republicans usually are. They're happy warriors. They come there, they. And you see, I don't pull my punches. They take their shots like a man.
Laura Trump
Yeah. You know, did you ever see Dean Phillips talk about going to a Trump rally?
Bill Maher
Dean Phillips? You mean the guy who challenged Obama?
Laura Trump
Dean Phillips is the guy who tried to primary Joe Biden challenge.
Bill Maher
Yeah, right.
Laura Trump
He wanted to run.
Bill Maher
Yeah.
Laura Trump
In this past election.
Bill Maher
He runs my pot store now.
Laura Trump
Oh, fantastic.
Bill Maher
Can you believe that?
Laura Trump
I love that.
Bill Maher
Small world.
Laura Trump
So he was trying to run as a Democrat for president in 2024.
Bill Maher
Yeah.
Laura Trump
And he was out doing some sort of campaign stop and he says right across the street there was a Trump rally. He was like, you know what, I'm just gonna go over and check this out. And he went over and he said, you know what? It was very different than I anticipated. I told people who I was, I told people I was a Democrat and people were like, well, come on in and check it out. And he said it was actually so different than anticipated. Cuz it's advertised as some sort of a good old boys and angry group of people who. You don't come in here. No, we don't like your kind. That's not at all what it is. And I think you're right. I think generally speaking, I think conservatives try to be more. More open and you know, just generally more open, which is.
Bill Maher
I heard they were serving escargot at.
Laura Trump
That rally, is that right? I don't think so.
Bill Maher
No, not that far.
Laura Trump
Not that one.
Bill Maher
Not that far, no. But still. Yeah. No, I mean, again, it's a lot easier to be magnanimous when you control everything.
Laura Trump
Well, but can I ask you, what do you. What do you think we do to get. To get the people who are the no contact people?
Bill Maher
Great question. That's it.
Laura Trump
Because. Because to me, it almost should be that we have to have someone in a leadership position to kind of start directing this.
Bill Maher
Here's what.
Laura Trump
My husband was just calling me. Oh, it's all right.
Bill Maher
It's okay.
Laura Trump
I'll call him back.
Bill Maher
It's not the Secret Service, is it?
Laura Trump
We're fine. Okay, I'll call him back. Eric Tromo. I'll call you back.
Bill Maher
You have to Go.
Laura Trump
No, I'm good.
Bill Maher
You're good?
Laura Trump
I'm good.
Bill Maher
I'm enjoying it. I would love to.
Laura Trump
I would love to hear what your. What you think.
Bill Maher
And I got a great. A great answer for you.
Laura Trump
Yeah.
Bill Maher
Don't do things like call a woman piggy.
Laura Trump
Do we know that happened?
Bill Maher
I saw it on tape.
Laura Trump
Or did you say McGee? Here's Also, by the way, but Donald Trump is an equal opportunity offender. He also said that he gave Netanyahu a lot of crap whenever he thought that he wasn't doing things right. He said he doesn't know what the he's saying.
Bill Maher
What does that to do with piggies?
Laura Trump
I'm just saying in general. He also. How about Joe Biden called somebody a lion, Pony face, dog soldier or whatever. Dog face, pony soldier. Whatever he said goes both ways.
Bill Maher
I'm just saying a personal level.
Laura Trump
Yeah.
Bill Maher
Here I am working on this editorial for Friday, all about how it's mostly liberals and then who have to get over yourselves. Eat with your family. Even the ones who are Trump voters. Okay.
Laura Trump
Even. Even the Trump voters.
Bill Maher
Even the Trump voters. It just makes my job more difficult when during this week he says to a woman, piggy, I mean, even you must admit this is just not cool, not necessary. And look, I'm still gonna do it. And I'm gonna say yes, because you know what? Adults do. Adults understand that people are gonna do certain things that we really hate. And. And you think you're a better person than me because you hate him more for calling the woman piggy? I hate it, too, okay? But I'm an adult and I understand people have their flaws. And he's the President of the United States. You can't not talk to him. There are certain people you just have to talk to your spouse after you have a bad fight.
Laura Trump
Yeah.
Bill Maher
Who hasn't? I have never been married, but I've been in serious relationships. I know the feeling after a really bad fight where you're like, I just don't want to talk to you. But you don't. And your boss, who you hate, and your relatives at Thanksgiving and the President of the United States, there are people you just have to talk to. And not talking and going no contact doesn't make you a purist. It makes you a brat.
Laura Trump
I agree with that.
Bill Maher
Even when he says piggy, but does he have to do that?
Laura Trump
Can't you get in there and say something? Oh, my God, Bill, let me tell you something. I know this will be just a crazy thing to say, but Donald Trump is not perfect. There Is. I know. Oh my God. He's not perfect, but he does a lot of things that I think are great. And I think that overall, you gotta take some of the good with the bad.
Bill Maher
I mean, we're kind of saying the same thing.
Laura Trump
Yes, you got to take the good with the bad.
Bill Maher
Well, you certainly can't just cut people off. I mean, Biden tried to cut off the guy who was at the White House now. And what happened one year later, this bump. Because you can't cut off Saudi Arabia either. I understand why he wanted to cut him off. Cuz that guy cut off a guy's head. So it was like, you know what, that's not cool. We're not gonna talk to you. Except, oh, wait, you have the oil and you're the counterweight to Iran. We have to talk to you. You have to talk to people. Absolutely. I know it would be great to be able to live in your bubble. And you know, that's one of our society's big problems too, is that people are too isolated on their phones.
Laura Trump
Oh my God, I freaking hate that.
Bill Maher
Your kids have phones yet.
Laura Trump
Absolutely not. And can I tell you something that amazing that happened? My kids are little. They're 6 and 8. Hell no.
Bill Maher
6 and 8 year olds have phones.
Laura Trump
Not mine.
Bill Maher
And I'll tell you what, I'll think they do here.
Laura Trump
Well, I think it's nuts. I hate these things in so many different ways and I think they're horrible. They're a necessity this day and age. I get it. But Eric and I, we had like one iPad in our house and we would let our kids, if they got their homework done, were done with sports. At the end of the day, all the things, we get 15 minutes on the iPad a day. And about two and a half or three months ago now, our son got in trouble and we were like, guess what? You both lost the iPad. And we're taking it away for two weeks. And we noticed in those two weeks that there was like a very positive change in both of our kids. And so Eric and I were like, we're just never giving the iPad back.
Bill Maher
Great.
Laura Trump
Do you know what my kids do? They read books. I swear to you.
Bill Maher
That's awesome.
Laura Trump
It is the craziest thing. I mean, Florida lends itself and I'm sure California is the same way to a lifestyle that is very outdoor based. And my kids are always moving and always doing things, but when they get free time, when I flew with them, you know, we went to New York last weekend, that's what they did. They brought a book.
Bill Maher
When they get old enough, they should read the book I had out last year.
Laura Trump
Oh, yeah. Do you tell.
Bill Maher
You'd like it too.
Laura Trump
Would I?
Bill Maher
Yeah. I mean, you'd especially like half of it.
Laura Trump
Okay.
Bill Maher
But it's fair and it's funny.
Laura Trump
All right.
Bill Maher
And you know, you would. I'll give it to you before we leave. I love it. Yeah. Because, you know, kids, I think they want to be challenged more than they are 100% sure. I mean, it's not just the. It's easy to blame the technology, and that certainly plays a big part, but it's also just the attitude of parents. I mean, my parents just didn't do it this way. I mean, I had Scott Galloway on last week, who is the guy who, more than anybody has been identifying that the people in crisis the most. Not that women aren't suffering too, but are men and boys, absolutely, are totally in crisis. And one reason is because they're isolated, you know, and, you know, that comes as much from the technology, I think, as from parents just indulging them too much and pussifying the kids. I mean, I was a free, totally a free range child. I mean, I used to talk about in my act how, like, I would come home from school at 3 o', clock, I would fly up to my room, get into my play clothes, fly out the door. And my mother never once said, where are you going?
Laura Trump
Yeah.
Bill Maher
Cause I would be like, where am I going? What the fuck is it to you.
Laura Trump
Going out to play? I'm in the play clothes.
Bill Maher
I'll do whatever I do between three and six. And you do whatever you do.
Laura Trump
What were you doing?
Bill Maher
I was playing. I was going.
Laura Trump
You were out and about.
Bill Maher
I was going near the crick.
Laura Trump
See, but that's what kids are supposed to do.
Bill Maher
I was playing soldier. I was collecting acorns. Yes, I was throwing acorns.
Laura Trump
I love that. I would love for more kids to get back to that. And that's something else that my kids do, Eric. And I also never let them. When we would go out to dinner, have any sort of a phone, like, and they'd ask us, can we have your phones? Because you go to a restaurant today, look around at all the parents who have their kids on these phones. Let me tell you. Yes, it takes a lot more effort to be a parent than to hand them this thing. Be a parent and tell your kid no. And you know what my kids do? They'll bring a football and they'll go out behind the restaurant and they'll throw the football around or they'll draw or they'll play something they do make believe in the corner. They figure out stuff to do because that's what kids do. It's actually horrifying to me to think about what this upcoming generation of kids is gonna be like because the studies show you that their brain is damaged in so many different ways from what they're watching, from the dopamine and all the receptors in their mind flooding them whenever they watch these videos on YouTube and do all this crap on these phones. It's terrible for them.
Bill Maher
I told this story once on my show and it's the kind of thing that has made the woke hate me and your side like me because I just keep it real about this shit. I keep it real about this shit. But it's a true story.
Laura Trump
Okay.
Bill Maher
I was in a parking lot like, you know, like at Whole Foods or something. And there was this. I just saw this. I was parked caddy corner to where this was happening. And this is. This mother was being yelled at by her like 4 year old was just screaming at the mother and the mother was apologizing to the kid. And the guy, you know, and I'm watching this and the guy is watching this and you know, he. The car that they were in front of had a Hillary bumper sticker on it. And he. And he looked at me and he went, that's why I can't vote for these people. And I was like, you know, politics is not all about policy. It's about people are not that hip to the actual minutiae of policy very often.
Laura Trump
That's true.
Bill Maher
It's just like it's a feeling.
Laura Trump
Yeah.
Bill Maher
And the feeling was, I mean, it just encapsulated a lot to me why the Democrats keep losing to a guy who, as you say, is not exactly perfect.
Laura Trump
Not perfect all the time.
Bill Maher
Not at all. Not all the time. And just like I can't let these type. I know exactly what he meant.
Laura Trump
Yeah.
Bill Maher
All of it. All of this anti common sense. I know, that's the problem. I never met an idea that was. That was counterintuitive that I didn't love.
Laura Trump
Yeah.
Bill Maher
You know, there you go. Here. This doesn't really make sense. What do you think of it?
Laura Trump
Yeah. Let's put this as our platform.
Bill Maher
Hamas is the good guys.
Laura Trump
There you go.
Bill Maher
Who would have wanted men can have babies. Let's do it.
Laura Trump
Yes. Let's be for criminals. Let's do it.
Bill Maher
Well, that's more complicated.
Laura Trump
Well, let's be for criminals.
Bill Maher
By the way. That's one of the reasons the natives are restless on your side, even your people, because they voted for, let's get the criminals out of the country. And what they got was, no, let's find people who've been working here for 10 years and go to Home Depot and get them. We don't like that.
Laura Trump
So what I'll say if I don't.
Bill Maher
Get invited back, you tell them people don't like that.
Laura Trump
I think you'd be invited back.
Bill Maher
I hope so. I would go back in a minute.
Laura Trump
Well, I think you'll get the invite back.
Bill Maher
My point tomorrow, Friday night, is that we need more people like me.
Laura Trump
Yes, I agree.
Bill Maher
And the thing is he would do it. It's they who will do it.
Laura Trump
That's right.
Bill Maher
He likes conversation.
Laura Trump
Yes.
Bill Maher
He was glad, I think, that night, to have someone who wasn't just an ass kisser.
Laura Trump
He listen. Donald Trump asks opinions of everyone around him.
Bill Maher
Right.
Laura Trump
And he's always listening. He's always open to whatever people have to say. But to go back to what you just said there, I hear it and there's nothing that feels good about seeing people who had good intentions, generally speaking, leaving our country in this manner. However, we either have rules or we don't. We either have laws or we don't. And I think what the goal has been of this administration, and they've said it too, is that they are targeting the worst of the worst. They are targeting the gang members, the criminals, the drug dealers, the human traffickers, which, by the way, 300,000 children went missing under Joe Biden's tenure as president coming over that southern border. Do you know this, this administration and the ICE agents out there have found 25,000 of these kids and had them, most of them reunited with their families. There is good coming out of this, but you have been people who think that there's some easy fix to this or wrong. And it's very unfortunate. We should have had the laws enforced. You can't just come here illegally. And whenever they're doing these raids and they're getting the bad guys sometimes, yes. There are other people who are collateral damage. And I'm not saying they're bad people, but they did break the law to come here. And unfortunately, we either have rules or we don't.
Bill Maher
Yeah, that's not the way to handle it. I mean, even that's unfortunately.
Laura Trump
I mean, it's the nature of the beast though. Joe Biden let tens of millions of people come over this, the border illegally and somebody has to be the bad guy to get him Out.
Bill Maher
And no one is defending that. Yeah, but once it happened, once it was a fait accompli, especially people who have been here for a long time. And again, even people on your side don't love this. This tackling people at their workplaces and the idea that Americans would take these jobs. First of all, that's not true. So it's going to hurt the economy. But also you could just say. And look, even Bernie Sanders and Pritzker in Illinois have given Trump credit for. Bernie said, look, he did it, he closed the border. We always said it needed congressional approval, and it didn't. It can be done. But you know what? Obama deported a lot of people, too. He just didn't do it by being an asshole, by being a thug, by being masked, by tackling people, by being cruel in a way that not sending them to other countries to like, basically consign them to this kind of hell of the worst kind of prisons in the world. Yes, maybe you shouldn't be in this country if you don't belong in this country legally, but you also shouldn't get that as the punishment. So we just went. It's like everything goes too far. Doge went too far.
Laura Trump
Didge go too far. You didn't like Doge. You didn't like cutting the fat off the federal government. What did you like?
Bill Maher
I do like cutting the fat off the federal government. Not the way they did it. Just by, Come on, man. I mean, there were people who died, who did not have to. They were getting aid. They just cut it off, like, immediately. They let food rot rather than have it go out to people. Because that would. I mean, it was just so unnecessary and it was so unthoughtful. You could have, like, done a very careful study as soon as you got into office. It took months. It would take months. It is the federal government for a long time and found out where the fat was, which has been done by other administrations, and then went about cutting that where it. No, that's not what they did. I've got a chainsaw, I've got a sledgehammer. Let's just break shit.
Laura Trump
Well, sometimes I will say this. You're never going to please everybody and you're never going to do something where everybody says, this is fantastic because that's the nature of all of it. Right. However, this is a president who does look at things differently. And you can criticize things like that, but you also have to acknowledge so much of the good I think that has been done by him as well. The fact that he was criticized initially over the tariffs of the Middle East. Okay, well, wait. The tariffs, Everybody said.
Bill Maher
And I gave him.
Laura Trump
This is endless. Okay. So the tariffs not only have brought in almost $200 billion of money into our country, but I think it's around 195 million. But they have also been leveraged in order to get trade agreements.
Bill Maher
That's why he's giving out a $2,000 tariff check, which they said will cost more.
Laura Trump
We have eight wars around the world that have been settled. And whether we're talking about India or Pakistan, we're talking about Cambodia and Thailand, they say the reason that we decided to settle these skirmishes and these conflicts was because of the tariffs.
Bill Maher
Yes, I agree.
Laura Trump
And we have trade agreements because of the tariffs.
Bill Maher
I talked about that on my show recently.
Laura Trump
So you have to acknowledge that he has been able to do some miraculous things because the way he goes about things and because his mind works very differently, I think, than anyone else we've ever had as president. There's no doubt about it.
Bill Maher
There is truth to that. There's also truth that I said this. Tariffs work as a cudgel. He has used them as a cudgel. Okay. But he's also using them illegally. It's very plain that Congress is who gets to decide about tariffs. It is a tax. Okay. So he is taking a power.
Laura Trump
The Supreme Court is going to decide on that.
Bill Maher
Yes, they are. And I don't think they're going to decide your way.
Laura Trump
Interesting.
Bill Maher
I don't. Well, we'll see.
Laura Trump
Yeah, we'll see.
Bill Maher
We'll see what happens.
Laura Trump
We'll. We'll see. I don't know. Could go either way. We'll see what happens.
Bill Maher
I always love when he says that. I mean, he does say things all the time, which, like, sometimes unintentionally, but, like, this guy is not boring.
Laura Trump
No. My God, he's the greatest. It's so fun. I think it's so fun. I love it. I'm just happy to be alive right now. Forget my proximity to Donald Trump.
Bill Maher
You're not in a prison in El Salvador, so it's not so cool.
Laura Trump
I also didn't break the law and bring drugs and human trafficking.
Bill Maher
And you wouldn't have.
Laura Trump
No.
Bill Maher
Okay. Most of the people they have rounded up did not have criminal records. Most even. Yes.
Laura Trump
No. 80% of the people that they have rounded up and deported have had criminal records. I would see 70 to 80%.
Bill Maher
Want to bet?
Laura Trump
Sure. What are we betting?
Bill Maher
What? What's super valuable to you?
Laura Trump
Oh, my God. I. Everything. My Health. My wellness. You want to go for a run? You want a better run on it?
Bill Maher
Yeah. You're a big wellness. Me, too.
Laura Trump
Are you?
Bill Maher
Well, I'm 70.
Laura Trump
What are you doing to work out? I don't.
Bill Maher
I don't like. You look decrepit. Do I?
Laura Trump
You walked in here pretty steadily. Yeah, I feel good about where you're going with that.
Bill Maher
Boy, the bar is low.
Laura Trump
Oh, my God, look, my earrings falling off steadily.
Bill Maher
Oh, no, we're taking our hoops off.
Laura Trump
No, hoops are always staying on.
Bill Maher
No, don't think it's that, people. We're not. Where the hoops come off, that's when, like, Lauren Boebert's gonna be here in a minute throwing lights.
Laura Trump
Oh, my God. There we go. He's back. We got him back, folks. I'm just trying to. I'm just trying to get this earring in. I got it. No, I didn't. God.
Bill Maher
Now why did I make that fall out? I apologize.
Laura Trump
Oh, no, I think you did.
Bill Maher
That's a. I'm a bad man, Laura.
Laura Trump
No, I think so.
Bill Maher
Exactly.
Laura Trump
Yeah. You're all right.
Bill Maher
I'm all right.
Laura Trump
No matter what they say, I think you're all right.
Bill Maher
Exactly. That's my motto.
Laura Trump
I've been pleasantly surprised.
Bill Maher
I assumed you knew or else you wouldn't have come.
Laura Trump
No, I knew.
Bill Maher
Yeah, you seem.
Laura Trump
Can I tell you, I would have come, you know, regardless, because I don't. I'm always happy to converse with people, but you've been very reasonable. I think about a lot of things.
Bill Maher
I am extremely reasonable.
Laura Trump
I think so.
Bill Maher
Even when we argue, you know, I'm right about a lot of stuff. I know you can't say it because you're going to run for governor and president. That's cool. By the way, you're very good at what you are undoubtedly destined for. I mean, when the kids grow up or something. You're right. This is the wrong time. Everything in life is timing right.
Laura Trump
It's so important.
Bill Maher
It's everything.
Laura Trump
Look at Donald Trump. He toyed. Was running for president since, what, like 2000?
Bill Maher
Even before that.
Laura Trump
Well, he was asked about it before.
Bill Maher
That, even in the 80s.
Laura Trump
Yeah. Oprah asked him very famously, would you ever consider running for president? And he said, only if things got so bad that I felt the country needed me and I had no other choice.
Bill Maher
You know how long Donald Trump has been famous? Let me tell you something. I did a movie back when, like, in the 80s when I was first out in Hollywood, and a young comedian doing the Tonight show never stopped Being a comedian but you know, you always wanted to get on a sitcom, which I did. And I was doing like movies. Like we have some of the stupid posters and I guess we don't have any here that you can see, but you know, dumb movies. I did like DC Cab and I did a movie in 1990 called Pizza man and it was. Had all these look alikes from the era and the ending was Donald Trump. Donald Trump? No, a lookalike. Oh. But I'm just saying, he was so famous. This is 1990.
Laura Trump
Yeah.
Bill Maher
Then in 1998, I did a pilot for Fox. I was as a producer. My friend Jimmy and I, we invented reality television. But we fucked it up and so somebody else got to it first. But we invented this show where it was a scene, but you got like regular people to be the guest stars in the scene, working with famous actors.
Laura Trump
Okay.
Bill Maher
And one of the sketches was right after Titanic came out and it was about the building was sinking. A building was sinking and people are.
Laura Trump
Just in there and they have to deal with it.
Bill Maher
And the owner of the building, but.
Laura Trump
They still make this happen.
Bill Maher
In the sketch, the owner of the building was Donald Dump. Wow. That's how long he's been famous.
Laura Trump
Yeah.
Bill Maher
Sued me in 2013.
Laura Trump
That's all you got in on the front end, Bill. You know what I mean? Like, that's great.
Bill Maher
I'm just saying he's been famous for a long time.
Laura Trump
He sure has.
Bill Maher
And then the Apprentice era and you.
Laura Trump
Know, which is why it was really wild when I came into a family like this. And I had, I came from a very normal background, by the way. I grew up in a middle class family in North Carolina. And all of this has been very interesting to be a part of. So it's, it's been a ride. And I'm still, I honestly mean this, my proximity to, to my father in law is one thing, but even if I were not part of this family and as close to, to him and all of it as I am, it's just such a fascinating time to be alive, you know, the. All of it. I think it's really, it's amazing.
Bill Maher
Oh, it's definitely not dull.
Laura Trump
It's not dull at all. No, no.
Bill Maher
I mean, look, HBO's gonna announce tomorrow, another two year hitch for me on top of next year. So like I'll be, you know, Well, I don't know, three years from now, will we even have tv or like my network could get sold. I mean, they're talking about that a lot. There's that, you Know, I figure if it's to Paramount, I think those are Jews, I should be good there. But I heard today it might be Comcast and that could be Saudi money. Okay. You know, we're on good terms now, Bill, because I've always kept it real about Islam, which is another reason why the left hates me. See, because you know, they're on the page of America cringe. Hamas, awesome.
Laura Trump
It's wild.
Bill Maher
And like I am not there. That's the one thing that like I am 100% full on is the Middle east thing.
Laura Trump
Yeah.
Bill Maher
Like just first of all, just backing Israel. Like let's not pretend that all cultures, although they're different, they're the same. No, Israel is our culture. We value life. We give women full rights, stuff like that. We're going to go with the culture that we recognize and we think is the right one. You do you.
Laura Trump
Yeah.
Bill Maher
And then just the way he supported Israel's solving of the problem, that they were slowly being surrounded by proxies of Iran. And just like Michael Corleone in the last reel of the Godfather, he took out all the enemies, settled all family business. Hezbollah and Hamas and the Houthis and then Iran itself. We're going to do this. So I mean I give him full. And then to get the war to end and also to get maybe the Arabs to finally we're getting closer partis. Well, I read in the paper today that MBS is here to announce that he's going to help with Gaza, that Saudi Arabia is going to move in.
Laura Trump
Some of the rebuilding. I don't know the answer to that, but it makes a lot of sense. And that's one of the things that I think has been very unique about this president is that he is. Look, as a businessman, I think he had this incredible ability not only to negotiate with people, but to have foresight into what needed to happen and how to forge relationships, to make good moves. And I would say that that could be a very positive thing for that, that section of the world. They need some investment. They need somebo to come in who's going to help rebuild and that would be great. I don't have. I don't have any insight here, but because I'm not part of.
Bill Maher
Do they ever. Do you ever get privy to like something before the world knows it?
Laura Trump
Not really.
Bill Maher
No. No. You can think of one time.
Laura Trump
I'm trying to think of anything.
Bill Maher
Okay.
Laura Trump
No, I'll tell you. Actually we were with my father in law during the first administration and it was. It must have been Thanksgiving. Was it Thanksgiving? He flew over and he went to see the troops over in the Middle East. I'm trying to remember where he went, but he didn't. He didn't even tell any of us that he was going.
Bill Maher
They never do.
Laura Trump
No, I mean, like, stuff like that.
Bill Maher
That's for security.
Laura Trump
And then the next morning, he was just gone. And then we realized he was all the way overseas. It was very cool, but they always.
Bill Maher
Keep it a secret. You don't want to tell the terrorists you're coming.
Laura Trump
Well, that's true. That is accurate. Meaning. But he didn't even tell, like, our family, who had just had dinner together, any of us, that he was even going anywhere.
Bill Maher
Right.
Laura Trump
But, no, not usually.
Bill Maher
I mean, listen, do you do Thanksgiving at the White House?
Laura Trump
We usually have done Thanksgiving. At Mar A Lago.
Bill Maher
At Mar A Lago, yeah. Of course.
Laura Trump
Although, this year we're gonna go to North Carolina with my family and we'll be in Florida for a while.
Bill Maher
And you live in that orbit now, though. I mean, that physical.
Laura Trump
Yeah, we're in South Florida, so.
Bill Maher
I mean, I keep reading that this is a whole world. Oh, what does that mean? Beyond. What do you mean?
Laura Trump
It's quite a scene.
Bill Maher
You mean Mar a Lago meaning yes?
Laura Trump
Yeah.
Bill Maher
Well, you keep saying these. Oh, yeah.
Laura Trump
Well, it is.
Bill Maher
Spill the tea. Like, what is it? What do you mean? Like, I would like it.
Laura Trump
I think you would find it very interesting, actually.
Bill Maher
Never been married.
Laura Trump
There's a lot of material there, Bill. Come on over.
Bill Maher
How many successful never been married. Usually you have to put up with their old. Their fucking kids and shit and their third wives that they just dumped. I'm clean.
Laura Trump
Free agent, ladies and gentlemen. We got him. He's ready to go. Mar A Lago is amazing. First of all, you have Donald Trump on the patio, and he's out there for, I mean, anywhere from two hours to, like, four hours. He'll be out on this patio. He's fully in charge of the music, and he'll raise it so loud that people can't even talk anymore because it's like a song he really wants to hear. Like a Pavarotti or a Phantom of the Opera or one of these really hits him.
Bill Maher
That's what he likes.
Laura Trump
He likes all kinds of stuff. His eclectic music taste is really fascinating.
Bill Maher
I know he loves ymca.
Laura Trump
He certainly does look like the Village People. There it is. Okay, Bill. Mar doing the Trump dance. I like it.
Bill Maher
I like 20 times I rolled this and said it looks like he's jerking off two guys at once.
Laura Trump
So Like, I love your mind. Went there.
Bill Maher
But I don't do that anymore.
Laura Trump
You don't do it anymore. That's. So that.
Bill Maher
That one I did, I just got bored of. I mean, you can only do. I can only do the same gag so many times.
Laura Trump
But it is. It's fascinating out there, and then it's really like the center of. It feels like the center of everything.
Bill Maher
Well, that's what I mean, the way they write the articles about it. But of course, I can't trust the articles.
Laura Trump
We gotta get you there. Next stop, the $18 million Mar a Lago Club, ladies and gentlemen. That's right. You can give us your assessment of the value once you.
Bill Maher
That's true. I mean, I've been to the White House. That would be the. If I'm gonna have dinner again. That would be. I would love to see it.
Laura Trump
Yeah.
Bill Maher
I mean, it is kind of like seeing the court of Louis xiv.
Laura Trump
It's a little like that.
Bill Maher
At the height of his corruption.
Laura Trump
It's a. Well, it's a little.
Bill Maher
It's a. I defended the ballroom.
Laura Trump
Oh, good. Well, that's nice.
Bill Maher
Totally. See, that's the kind of thing. I mean, I just can't stand it that you cannot get the full story from anybody. And by the way, they. And when I say they, I mean the usual suspects. And you know who you are, because you're fucking liars will take this thing and your people will just take the parts that make me look like what they. Right. That make me look like what they want to look like. And my people will do the opposite. Of course, I'll get it from both sides, because my people will show me being nice to you to show. Look at that asshole. He's nice to a Republican.
Laura Trump
You should have burned me at the stake when I was young.
Bill Maher
Your people will show none of the parts where I was critiquing Trump on the things I think he needs to be nothing about. All that'll go, and it'll just. Because nobody's honest.
Laura Trump
So you like the ballroom.
Bill Maher
But I. Because first I read, you know, he knocked. I'm knocking the White House down. Goodie. You know, I had Michael Steele on, and he was like. My father took me to the White House and I saw it, and it's like, oh, geez, I didn't know this was so emotional for people. And then I started to read the other side, and it's like, oh, okay, first of all, lots of people have changed the White House. Second of all, it's just a fucking building, you know, What? It's a building. And also something they never put in the left press. We are America. They shouldn't be having state dinners like under a tent. It's not a big deal. So what, they knocked down an office wing and put up something for state dinners, which in the 21st century you probably don't need the office wing. Or you could put them somewhere else or put them in the. What's the building across the street that's like the blah, blah, blah executive.
Laura Trump
The Eisenhower executive office. But they're still going to have those offices. They're just building them, they're rebuilding them above where the kind of segue is into the ballroom. Here's the thing. Who better to build a ballroom than Donald Trump? Honestly, when you come to Mar a Lago, Bill, I will personally take you down to the Mar A Lago Ballroom. Oh, he show if the president doesn't do it himself.
Bill Maher
Remember we walked there and he was telling me about what's happening. It's like the guy with. We should have had the hard hats on, you know, like, this is the site where it's gonna happen. You know, it's like, okay, look. No, it does not rise to that level of importance to me. That's what I'm saying. It's like there are things he does that I am very, very engaged with that are important. And there are things that I've told my audience, treat it like a cloud, let it just pass because it doesn't matter. And you can't get upset about everything I said before. He won the last time. I'm not gonna let him get my mind this time. And it shouldn't. Your whole personality should not be about how you feel about Donald Trump or any president. It shouldn't be your whole life. And I won't let it be that good for you. Yes, absolutely. And I tell people this. Good for you. I tell people this. Yeah, and it's funny little synchronicity we have on the show Friday night. Mel Robbins. Do you know who that is?
Laura Trump
I do know Mel Robbins.
Bill Maher
I'm sure you do.
Laura Trump
I've known her for a long time, actually.
Bill Maher
Oh, you actually know her?
Laura Trump
I met her, gosh, probably 15 years ago with Eric in New York.
Bill Maher
Oh, wow. Yeah, well, you were an early adapter because honestly, I'm just starting to know who she is. And I mean, to say that's a phenomenon is an understatement. The level of that book of hers and the point of it is let them. That's what she says. That's the Title and it's about. It's sort of very eerily apropos to this. It's like, don't let people control your mind completely. I mean, so ballrooms. No. Does not rise to the. It is not on the I give a shit list. And I actually think again, yes, America, pretty big country. We're kind of a successful band.
Laura Trump
We're pretty good.
Bill Maher
You know, I think we should have. When we have state dinners and shit. I don't think it should be on the grass. I do think there should be a floor. Call me crazy, but again, don't give a shit the amount of money. It's not even public money. Even if it was, you couldn't find it in a rounding era. And like there's so much bigger fish to fry that I have with him.
Laura Trump
Well, like we're giving the ballroom a good nod, respectfully. There you go.
Bill Maher
You know, as long as you keep it on that level, you know. And you know, I gotta say, the Republicans, they do take a punch. They don't get bent out of shape because I think secretly they know I'm right, but I know they can't say it. Marjorie Taylor Greene was on. I know she's a bad. She's now on the shit list.
Laura Trump
Oh, I've got no bones to pick with Marjorie Taylor Greene. No personal issue with her.
Bill Maher
You would not believe how many people got in touch with me like that weekend and said, wow. You know, liberal people like, wow, Marjorie Taylor Greene. I kind of liked her. Oh, you know. Cause she was very, you know, my line is always, everybody's a monster till you talk to them.
Laura Trump
That's true. And I agree with that for pretty much everyone. Bill. I love it. I think that's a great way to go. Yeah, I appreciate that.
Bill Maher
I think it's the only way to be. Because the other way lies madness and civil war and, and you know, this idea that each side can own the other side. I mean certainly that's something both of them are guilty of. They don't want to compromise or come to any sort of middle. They want to own. They think, no, I want to destroy them. See, if I destroy them, then we don't have to compromise.
Laura Trump
I actually think that it would be great if we got back to a place where we had just more. And I do think this actually exists out there. We have more in common than we do different. And we acknowledge that and that we had two political parties. I mean the two party system is not perfect, but that we had two major political parties in this country that Agreed on a lot more. And I think deep down, we really do.
Bill Maher
I think the people do. I don't know about the parties.
Laura Trump
Well, that's right, because the parties get.
Bill Maher
Sent by the fringe wings.
Laura Trump
Well, yeah.
Bill Maher
You know, I mean, it's very hard to win a. It's easier to win a general than a primary.
Laura Trump
That is true.
Bill Maher
You get primaried and, you know, I mean, Trump says he's gonna primary Marjorie Taylor Greene. I mean, like, we gotta find someone to the right of Marjorie Taylor Greene.
Laura Trump
Are you in charge of that? You're gonna work on that.
Bill Maher
See, now, I'm Marjorie Taylor Greene's friend.
Laura Trump
See, God, what's wrong with you, Bill?
Bill Maher
And lots of people said, you know, they like her, too.
Laura Trump
That's amazing.
Bill Maher
And you know what I loved is that in the overtime segment, somebody asked about the. Have you been reading about the comet that is heading toward Earth that could be an alien spaceship?
Laura Trump
No. Is that right?
Bill Maher
Oh, yeah. What? Yeah, they're writing about it quite a bit.
Laura Trump
Oh, I missed this one.
Bill Maher
Yeah.
Laura Trump
Better to not know. Just let it happen.
Bill Maher
It's supposed to come within 170 million miles of earth on December 19th. Some people have said that it. They think it's acting differently than a comet, so it must be a spaceship. So it could be the aliens ending all life as we know it.
Laura Trump
Well, I believe they're out there.
Bill Maher
But Marjorie said when it came up that somebody in the. Some people in the Defense Department said, no, it's actually not probably aliens. What it probably is is demons or fallen angels.
Laura Trump
Oh.
Bill Maher
And Marjorie was like, right on. She said, I'm a Christian conservative. That's what we believe. Demons and angels. And I was like, you know what? I think that's nuts. But I don't hate you for saying that's. Again, you can come to Thanksgiving. Even though it's crazy to me, you think I'm crazy in some ways. And we just have to, like, let that go.
Laura Trump
There's a lot to talk about.
Bill Maher
Let that go.
Laura Trump
Yeah, let go.
Bill Maher
Isn't that the secret of marriage? You have to, like, let it go sometimes.
Laura Trump
Yeah, you do have to let it go.
Bill Maher
Let it go.
Laura Trump
You have to sometimes love the other person enough to put yourself to the side and just say, okay, we're just for the betterment of all of us, for the greater good. Let's all just put it aside. And we can all do that.
Bill Maher
We can. But it's very hard when you have a fight with someone when you're that close, because that means you're also that much More vulnerable because they know everything about you and blah, blah, blah. It's so hard if you think they're fundamentally wrong about something. Like, why can't you see it? Why can't you see? Right? Yeah, you've had that feeling.
Laura Trump
Not with Eric Trump. He's perfect. But I know other people who have Bill.
Bill Maher
Okay.
Laura Trump
Yeah.
Bill Maher
Well, I can't thank you enough. Thank you for doing this when I'm sure there are people who said you shouldn't meet with that bad man.
Laura Trump
Actually, no one said that to me. Can I be honest? Everyone I told that I was gonna come here, they were like, that's so freaking cool.
Bill Maher
Oh, that's great.
Laura Trump
Yes, that's great. I'm happy to do it. Thank you for having me tell you.
Bill Maher
Thanks for being open that my people.
Laura Trump
I'll tell my people, huh?
Bill Maher
Want peace.
Laura Trump
We do want peace.
Bill Maher
Because, you know, my people talk a lot, but you guys have all the guns. We do. And all the Supreme Court seats and all the, you know, we want peace with dignity.
Laura Trump
We want peace too.
Bill Maher
All right, well, thanks.
Laura Trump
We can agree on that.
Bill Maher
Say hi to everyone in the family.
Laura Trump
I will.
Bill Maher
Tell your father in law. Just doing my job.
Laura Trump
We'll see you at Mar a Lago.
Bill Maher
Okay. Yeah. Happy Thanksgiving.
Laura Trump
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Bill Maher
See, that wasn't so bad.
Laura Trump
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Bill Maher
Oh, great.
Laura Trump
Yeah.
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Release Date: November 24, 2025
Guests: Bill Maher (Host), Lara Trump (Guest)
This episode of Club Random features Bill Maher in conversation with Lara Trump, daughter-in-law of former President Donald Trump and political figure. The discussion ranges widely—from generational changes and family life to heated debates about media bias, the Trump presidency, free speech, election controversies, and American culture. True to the Club Random ethos, Maher and Trump dig deep into contentious topics but maintain humor, civility, and a surprising amount of agreement on the importance of dialogue and not cutting off people with differing political views.
Maher discusses his visit to the White House and interactions with Donald Trump.
Both laugh about stories in the press claiming Trump called the White House “a dump,” which Lara denies.
Maher admits to critical coverage but insists on calling out policy, not personal traits.
Maher: “He was nice right away... the mind of a man who could come up with those many [nicknames] off the top of his head…” (08:08)
Lara Trump: “He is still, for a guy who has Trump Tower, who has Mar-a-Lago, he is still awestruck by the White House.” (09:12)
Maher and Lara discuss media bias and pressure to conform in Hollywood.
Maher shares Trump’s private texts critiquing him for not “being won over” at their dinner.
Emphasis on the importance of outreach and maintaining dialogue with ideological “opponents.”
Maher: “I'm not making fun of physical deformities and that stuff. That was fun for a minute and, you know, but like, yeah, I don't need it.” (14:10)
Lara Trump: “We need to remember, at the end of the day, no one else is doing what you’re doing. We need it.” (15:17)
Lara describes the Trump family’s struggles with banking post-presidency, leading to their foray into cryptocurrency.
Lara Trump: “You want to know why my family got into cryptocurrency? It was because we were debanked… the things that happened to our family were really outrageous.” (25:51)
Maher challenges whether Trump-connected entities have profited thanks to political influence; Lara denies any improper behavior.
Maher raises the perception that Trump allies receive special treatment.
Discussion of prosecutions, the difference in scrutiny on presidents, and controversial moments (like the “find me 11,000 votes” call).
They tussle about Russian interference claims and the infamous “Russia, if you’re listening” episode.
Maher: “You just can't call up a state after an election's over and say, look, you gotta find me [votes]. You can't find votes.” (30:55)
Lara Trump: “The fact that he's Donald Trump as the president... they've gone after all of us in success. They will go after everybody in an aggressive way.” (29:28)
Both express skepticism around flu shots and COVID vaccine mandates, focusing on personal medical autonomy.
Discussion contrasts RFK Jr.’s stances, vaccine policy, and medical transparency.
Maher: “I just said I would never get a flu shot because first of all, the flu is always shifting...” (18:51)
Lara Trump: “...there should be a space where we understand that you are not gonna be forced into anything and you can decide for yourself.” (19:59)
Discussion about Michelle Obama’s recent comments doubting America’s readiness for a woman president and their disagreement with her.
Lara shares her own story of considering a Senate run, ultimately prioritizing family.
Maher: “I do think there could be a woman president.” (41:17)
Lara Trump: “As a woman, I hate the idea that anything is centered around being a woman... I would love for a woman to run for president and literally, Bill, never talk about the fact that she's a woman.” (41:17)
Maher laments the divisiveness of American politics and the trend of cutting off family over political differences, especially among liberals.
Maher: “One of the things we have to correct in America is people should not have to feel bad about living in any part of the country where their politics isn't a majority. And that works both ways.” (46:09)
Lara Trump: “I think conservatives try to be more open and you know, just generally more open.” (48:26)
Both critique modern parenting, screen time, and the “pussification” of children.
Lara emphasizes keeping screens away from her young kids, with a humorous anecdote about removing the iPad.
Lara Trump: “Eric and I... noticed in those two weeks that there was like a very positive change in both of our kids... we're just never giving the iPad back.” (53:24)
Maher: “I was a free, totally a free range child… My mother never once said, where are you going?” (55:12)
They debate immigration enforcement, the handling of undocumented immigrants, and Trump-era deportation policies.
Lara Trump: “We either have rules or we don't. And I think what the goal has been of this administration... targeting the worst of the worst... There is good coming out of this.” (60:00)
Maher: “Obama deported a lot of people, too. He just didn't do it by being an asshole, by being a thug...” (61:05)
Maher inquires about the “orbit” around Mar-a-Lago and what the Trump social scene is like.
Lara paints a picture of DJ Trump on the patio, controlling the playlist—from Pavarotti to YMCA.
Lara Trump: “You have Donald Trump on the patio... he's fully in charge of the music, and he'll raise it so loud that people can't even talk anymore because it's a song he really wants to hear.” (75:15)
Both agree on the danger of only conversing within political bubbles and refusing to engage with “the other side.”
Anecdotes about both liberal and conservative figures on Maher’s shows surprising audiences by their personability.
Analogies to marriage: sometimes you set aside disagreements for the greater good.
Maher: “Everybody's a monster till you talk to them.” (81:55)
Lara Trump: “I actually think that it would be great if we got back to a place where... we had more in common than we do different. And we acknowledge that.” (82:29)
Maher: “I'm just saying, a personal level... it just makes my job more difficult when during this week he says to a woman, piggy; I mean, even you must admit this is just not cool, not necessary.” (50:11)
Lara Trump: “I know this will be just a crazy thing to say, but Donald Trump is not perfect. There is—I know. Oh my God. He's not perfect, but he does a lot of things that I think are great.” (51:29)
Maher: “Adults understand that people are gonna do certain things that we really hate... but I'm an adult and I understand people have their flaws.” (50:59)
Maher: “Your whole personality should not be about how you feel about Donald Trump or any president. It shouldn't be your whole life. And I won't let it be that.” (78:44)
Lara Trump (on Mar-a-Lago): “It's fascinating out there, and then it's really like the center of... everything.” (75:42)
Maher: “Everybody's a monster till you talk to them.” (81:55)
Lara Trump: “We want peace too.” (86:20)
The episode is candid, reflective, and irreverent, blending Maher’s signature wit and skepticism with Lara Trump’s openness. Despite differences, both express the need for better communication across the aisle, resilience in disagreement, and resisting the tribalism that’s tearing at American society. The conversation is rich with personal anecdotes, frank admissions, and a refreshing willingness from both to “take the good with the bad” when it comes to American public life.
Best for:
Listeners interested in the intersection of politics, culture, and personal relationships—especially those who appreciate spirited, respectful debate and a healthy dose of comedic realism.