Marshawn Lynch | Club Random with Bill Maher

Summary

Club Random with Bill Maher

Guest: Marshawn Lynch

Release Date: February 2, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this episode of Club Random, Bill Maher sits down with NFL icon Marshawn Lynch for a quintessentially "random" deep-dive into football culture, race, weed, strip clubs, the nature of humanity, the NFL’s response to tragedy, personal histories, mental resilience, and what it means to stay authentic. The conversation is peppered with laughter, candid admissions, friendly disagreements (most notably on the Damar Hamlin incident), and signature doses of Maher's deadpan wit and Marshawn’s realness. The tone is relaxed, irreverent, and refreshingly honest — exactly as Club Random promises.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Weed, the NFL, and Athlete Well-being

• Marshawn’s Weed Business & NFL Drug Policy

  • Marshawn jokes about everyone being in the weed (and podcast) business these days.
  • Admits to being in the NFL’s drug program several times for marijuana (03:53).
  • Discusses stigmatization and evolving attitudes: “Back when we was in the league, it was definitely a negative... But now everybody on board.” (04:13)
  • Ricky Williams credited as the “Curt Flood of pot” for challenging the league’s approach to pain management and anxiety (05:02).

• Addiction, Family, and Self-Reflection

  • Lynch opens up about his upbringing, referencing his father’s drug addiction: "I'm a crack baby. That's where the Beast Mode shit really come from." (37:01)
  • Both Maher and Lynch discuss their experiences with substance use and addiction, from weed to harder substances like crack and speed (38:10; 39:01).

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2. Race, History, and Human Nature

• Empire, Slavery, and Universal Inhumanity

  • Extensive back-and-forth on whether the drive to conquer and enslave is “white people’s MO” or basic human nature.
  • Maher: “That is not white people MO. That is human MO... The Japanese were the worst. They’re not white people.... Genghis Khan... gathered the slaves from the interior of Africa. Not the white people.” (08:24–09:13)
  • Lynch plays skeptic, pointing out the disproportionate benefit for white Europeans: “Most from it. What I say, they benefited the most from it.” (09:35)
  • Interesting side thread on the portrayal of Africans in history curricula and how history is taught: "In our history books that look like me. It’s not a good picture." (48:55)

• Slavery in the Bible & Morality

  • Maher critiques religious texts for not condemning slavery: “Neither Jesus nor God in the Bible condemn slavery. They make laws about it, but the laws never say, ‘Don’t do it.’” (11:23)

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3. Cancel Culture, Decency, and the Damar Hamlin Incident

• The NFL’s Response — Should the Game Have Been Canceled?
  • The pair spiral into a lengthy debate over the league’s decision to cancel a game after Damar Hamlin’s on-field cardiac arrest.
    • Maher: “What difference does it make to his life... if we play the game? He’s already in the ambulance. It had nothing to do with it.” (18:03)
    • Lynch: “That was humanity... That was a big moment to show that a human life was bigger than all the hoopla.” (21:23)
    • Memorable moment: Maher argues that “If they really cared about people getting hurt in football... they'd cancel the sport.” (23:20)
    • Lynch: "It’s not every game a motherfucker dying on the field." (23:39)
  • Despite repeated arguments, they “agree to disagree,” demonstrating friendship amidst opposing views (94:00).

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4. Inside the NFL

• Team Culture & Organizational Dysfunction

  • Lynch recounts experiences with dysfunctional organizations (Buffalo) and nurturing ones (Seattle); describes locker room politics, backstabbing among coaches, and differences in club culture (31:20–32:41).
  • Fun tangent about being in the upcoming “Madden movie” (32:08).

• Pain, Painkillers, and Survival

  • Maher asks about pain and painkillers in pro football: “You must always be in pain.” (68:47)
  • Lynch shares his approach to managing pain without being dependent on pills (69:12).

• The Importance of the Mental Game

  • Lynch describes learning from Ray Lewis about “tells” on the field and the importance of disguising intentions and developing mental sharpness: “Do the same thing every time so they can’t get a read.” (76:48)
  • On developing mental edge: “When I incorporated the mental aspect... that shit turned into playing chess against individuals who was playing checkers.” (74:35)

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5. Authenticity, Upbringing, and Personal Philosophy

• On Not Having Kids (Yet) & Simple Pleasures

  • Both men reflect on not having children (“No kids. That's very rare.” (58:05)), the importance of waiting until circumstances are right, and cherishing day-to-day pleasures like sleep and good conversation (61:01).

• Being True to Yourself in Spite of Expectations

  • Lynch shares anecdotes about being told how to style his hair and stay "in line," and bristles at the idea of anyone telling him how to present himself—even as a student athlete (86:03).

• Spirituality & the Randomness of Life

  • Maher affirms his lifelong agnosticism: “It doesn’t matter to me if there is or not. I’ll never know.... Behavior matters. Ethics matter. How I behave matters.” (45:08)
  • Lynch counters with his more faith-centered perspective on gratitude and life.

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6. Culture, Strip Clubs, and Humor

• Killer Mike, Strip Clubs, and "Making it Rain"
  • Hilarious exchange about Maher's visit to Atlanta's Blue Flame strip club with Killer Mike: “Was it hella ass cheeks in that motherfucker?” (52:40)
  • Dissection of strip club etiquette, “making it rain,” and whether to keep the club open if tragedy struck — reconnecting to the NFL debate with signature Maher edge (56:35).
  • Maher: “The chicks are here. They need to make a living.” (57:16)
  • Lynch: “Hell no. Everybody, we’d be gone.” (57:20)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Humanity & History:
  • Maher (09:13): "Humans are not good people... It’s not just the white people."
  • Lynch (49:22): "They would make me believe that I'm really not shit based off of what was in these history books and what we had. So I'm like, why the fuck would I be interested in you making me learn about why I'm not shit?"
• Cancel Culture & Hamlin Incident:
  • Maher (18:28): "The most important thing is Damar Hamlin’s life... But what difference does it make to his life if we play the game? He’s at the hospital... Now argue with that."
  • Lynch (21:23): "The humanity...that decision to [cancel the game] made sense...shows a human life was bigger than all the hoopla."
  • Maher (23:20): "If they really cared about people getting hurt in football, they wouldn't cancel the game, they'd cancel the sport."
• On Mental Edge in Sports:
  • Lynch (74:35): “When I incorporated the mental aspect...that shit turned into like, you know, how individuals say, you playing checkers and I’m playing chess.”
• Friendship Despite Disagreement:
  • Maher (94:40): “You know what friendship is? It’s vehemently disagreeing about anything and still having the exact same affection for the person.”

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Important Timestamps

| Timestamp | Segment / Talking Point | |---------------|----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 03:53 | Marshawn discusses NFL drug policy and marijuana program | | 05:02 | Ricky Williams as “Curt Flood of pot” and discussion of pain, anxiety, and weed in NFL | | 08:24–09:13 | Debate: conquest & slavery — human vs. “white people” behavior | | 11:23 | Maher on slavery in the Bible & religious texts | | 21:11 | Lynch recounts the shock of seeing a teammate paralyzed, defending NFL's decision to suspend | | 23:20 | Maher’s controversial take: “If they really cared... cancel the sport” | | 31:20–32:41 | NFL organization culture: backbiting in Buffalo vs. unity in Seattle | | 39:01 | Lynch: “I’m a crack baby... that’s where the Beast Mode shit really come from” | | 45:08 | Maher on agnosticism: “It doesn’t matter to me if there is [a God] or not...” | | 58:05 | Both men reflect on not having kids | | 74:35 | Lynch explains shift from athleticism to “playing chess” mentally in the NFL | | 94:00–95:00 | Demonstration of disagreement without animosity — “let it go” philosophy |

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Tone & Takeaways

The episode thrums with honesty, playful shots, and the comfort of two personalities unafraid of saying what they mean—even when their views diverge sharply. Lynch’s earthy wisdom and humor blend with Maher’s wry skepticism, making for a freewheeling but substantive exchange. The heart of Club Random—raw, unfiltered dialogue without judgment—shines throughout.

Listeners get rare insight into Marshawn Lynch's worldview, roots, and honest feelings on race, sport, and character, alongside Bill Maher’s irrepressible contrarian streak and wit. For anyone seeking a boundary-pushing, no-holds-barred conversation about sports, race, human nature, and authenticity, this Club Random outing delivers.

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For further highlights, rewind to:

• Damar Hamlin Debate — 17:24–23:09
• Strip Club and Killer Mike Stories — 52:22–57:19
• The Mental Game & Ray Lewis Lessons — 74:35–77:03
• Disagreement, Respect, and Lasting Friendship — 94:00–95:40

Transcript

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[Brandon Marshall]

Something like that happen?

[Bill Burr]

Yes, it is. Every single game.

[Brandon Marshall]

It's not every game. Motherfucker dies on the field.

[Bill Burr]

I swear to God.

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[Bill Burr]

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[Brandon Marshall]

Chief. What's going on? You here? Yes, Lord.

[Bill Burr]

Hiding back there? Remember me from real time?

[Brandon Marshall]

Yes. Come on now. How you doing there, young fella?

[Bill Burr]

Good. How are you?

[Brandon Marshall]

I'm taking it easy, man.

[Bill Burr]

Really? You're not in beast mode?

[Brandon Marshall]

Nah, nah, nah. But I did bring you some, though.

[Bill Burr]

Okay, thank you, but can't be in beast mode here. We're very mellow.

[Brandon Marshall]

No, this cool.

[Bill Burr]

No, beast. The beast's not going to come out, right?

[Brandon Marshall]

No, no, no, no, no. I'm chilling. I'm chilling.

[Bill Burr]

If it is, I can send you to the ICE recruiting station.

[Brandon Marshall]

No, no, no.

[Bill Burr]

I see you could join them.

[Brandon Marshall]

You got goddamn Jumanji on the way through here, so. Shit. What, you got Jumanji outside?

[Bill Burr]

What's that mean?

[Brandon Marshall]

The fucking jungle.

[Bill Burr]

Oh, oh, you mean land?

[Brandon Marshall]

Is that what it is? Yeah, it's true.

[Bill Burr]

Land, land, land. Katie Scarlet. The only thing worth fighting for, worth dying for.

[Brandon Marshall]

Yeah. God damn. I said, man.

[Bill Burr]

So this is your weed line?

[Brandon Marshall]

Yeah.

[Bill Burr]

How's it going? Everybody's in the weed business, everybody's in the podcast business.

[Brandon Marshall]

Everybody just doing every goddamn.

[Bill Burr]

You know what? It's hard to, like, you know, separate yourself. Well, exactly. Right?

[Brandon Marshall]

You know what, man? I mean, it's. It's not all cracked out to what it wanted to be, what it was, but do you.

[Bill Burr]

You make money on that?

[Brandon Marshall]

We're in a process.

[Bill Burr]

Trying to put that on your credit card. We in the process of paying.

[Brandon Marshall]

Trying to go get a loan, huh?

[Bill Burr]

No.

[Brandon Marshall]

God damn.

[Bill Burr]

Were you. When you were in the NFL, were you known as a pot smoker?

[Brandon Marshall]

Yeah, yeah, we get down. Shit. I mean, I've been in that program I don't know, what, three or four times.

[Bill Burr]

So what program?

[Brandon Marshall]

So they got a drug program. Oh, that they'll put you. That they'll put you in now.

[Bill Burr]

Oh, I thought you meant a program that sent you drugs. No, like a Weed of the Month club, because I was in that program.

[Brandon Marshall]

Well, I mean, we had one of those too, but I mean, that was more underground.

[Bill Burr]

You know who really paid the price in the NFL was Ricky Williams, right?

[Brandon Marshall]

Most definitely.

[Bill Burr]

You were.

[Brandon Marshall]

I said most definitely. He was somebody I looked up to, too. Matter of fact, we doing something tomorrow.

[Bill Burr]

Did you. You didn't play at the same time, though. He was retired before you started. Or around the same. Did you overlap?

[Brandon Marshall]

Yeah, I want to say we did.

[Bill Burr]

Really?

[Brandon Marshall]

Yeah. I have to look and see what year he actually retired, But I know I came in because he was.

[Bill Burr]

I've always felt he was kind of the Curt Flood of pot because, like, he, you know, stepped out and said, you know, I have injuries, as we all do, and the shit that the team wants me on, this pharmaceutical shit doesn't work. Fucks Me up the pot, you know, Helps me, helps me that shouldn't have to have asked another question. What works for you? This works. You know, he also had terrible anxiety problems. Every Sunday, he thought a bunch of guys were chasing him.

[Brandon Marshall]

Oh, shit. The way he ran, you would believe it, but no, I seen something where he said on college, I mean, smoked his first. He said he smoked his first joint and went and ran for like 300 yards or some crazy shit like that, Right? So that became his thing.

[Bill Burr]

Well, you know, different drugs just work differently for different people. And it's just. It's crazy that they. It's been so many decades. Like, just trying to get that one lesson now. Of course, some of it was mixed up with using the drug war for their own different reasons. Top of the list, racist. You know, there was the Chinese with the opium, and then obviously with African Americans. And the difference between.

[Brandon Marshall]

I don't know, I read something that they flooded China with some with the opium. Who was it?

[Bill Burr]

That was in the 19th century. That was the Opium War. Yeah, that's when the British had it.

[Brandon Marshall]

And they flooded China with that shit.

[Bill Burr]

Yeah, they was, I think.

[Brandon Marshall]

I mean, I don't really know that, you know that. Before my time and shit, but I think I remember hearing something about that.

[Bill Burr]

Oh, well, it was definitely before your time and my time and all time, except for people. It was 1840. That's definitely before our time quite a bit. Yeah. What?

[Brandon Marshall]

I thought she was up there.

[Bill Burr]

The Opium wars, you know, the British. You know, this was the age of colonization, and the European powers were on every continent. I mean, they did. The French and the British carved up Africa. It's interesting. The British conquered north to south, okay? And off the continent of Africa, from Egypt all the way down to South Africa. Although they had to fight the Dutch for that. They had to fight other people who were stealing it. And then the French conquered east to west. So they went from, you know, although Britain had Nigeria, I think, but they went from all those West African nations from where the slave trade left from, you know, Ghana and all the way east. And the two superpowers at the time met at Khartoum in 1859. It was like, we're going this way and we're going this way, and, boy, that was the battle.

[Brandon Marshall]

And they sliced that motherfucker up.

[Bill Burr]

And they sliced the motherfucker up. Yes.

[Brandon Marshall]

Is that just like white people, Mo? I said, is that just like white people, Mo?

[Bill Burr]

That is not white people, Mo. That is human, Mo.

[Brandon Marshall]

You think I ain't never hear about no Africans.

[Bill Burr]

Well, just because you didn't hear about it doesn't mean. And I'm telling you, there was a movie out, the Woman King, I think last year or a couple years ago.

[Brandon Marshall]

Yeah.

[Bill Burr]

And that was an empire built. I think it was Dahomey, which was the name. I think maybe a different name, but that was. Some of those names have changed. But that was the name of an African country.

[Brandon Marshall]

And they was in Africa, right?

[Bill Burr]

Yes.

[Brandon Marshall]

I'm talking about the white people where they go to places and they just take, take, take, separate, take.

[Bill Burr]

Yeah, that's. They're not.

[Brandon Marshall]

That's why I said it's sort of like they mo.

[Bill Burr]

And I'm telling you that's an erroneous thought. I'm telling you that that is not the truth. All peoples do that. The Japanese were the worst. They're not white people. When they invaded China. Genghis Khan. There is nobody who was more of a motherfucker than Genghis Khan and who gathered the slaves from the interior of Africa. Not the white people.

[Brandon Marshall]

Most from it. What I say they benefited the most from it.

[Bill Burr]

Okay, but what I'm saying is humans are not good people.

[Brandon Marshall]

You know what you got.

[Bill Burr]

It's not just the white people. That's right.

[Brandon Marshall]

Even from. I mean, shit.

[Bill Burr]

But it's not just their mo.

[Brandon Marshall]

What is it called? They system. Yeah, some fucked up shit. And how it work here.

[Bill Burr]

Yes, for sure. But in other parts of the world. I mean, the word slave comes from Slav.

[Brandon Marshall]

Well, I mean, I'm talking about like from like. I don't. When you were saying the African king and brought that up. The woman.

[Bill Burr]

Yes. That was a kingdom based on slavery and people in slavery most of history.

[Brandon Marshall]

Africans went and did that shit on another continent.

[Bill Burr]

Yes.

[Brandon Marshall]

What continent Africans went into and started.

[Bill Burr]

I'm telling you that people generally did not have slaves based on race simply for the fact that they didn't move far enough from where their origin was so they would enslave other people who looked like them. Sometimes each other.

[Brandon Marshall]

Yeah.

[Bill Burr]

You know, it's just. It wasn't about race. It was about if I can make you my bitch, I will. It is. Yes. That's apparently human nature for a long time. I mean, you know who had slaves? The Bible. Everybody in the Bible. And neither Jesus nor his dad, God ever said a bad word about it. They never said, don't do it.

[Brandon Marshall]

That shit not right.

[Bill Burr]

It's not right that. That's what the Bible says. But I'm not incorrect in pointing that out.

[Brandon Marshall]

I mean, look you could go into it and look at it like that. But where it's right is right. Where it's wrong is wrong.

[Bill Burr]

Exactly.

[Brandon Marshall]

Not depending on how you view it. Well, that's where you get the good people and the bad people from, okay?

[Bill Burr]

But the fact is, neither Jesus nor God in the Bible condemn slavery. They make laws about it, but the laws never say, don't do it. It's a terrible thing to do. They just say things like, well, if one man kills your slave, you are allowed to kill his slave. You know, it's very perfunctory like that. It never occurs. Because the Bible is written by men, of course, not gods. It never occurs to them to actually say, this is wrong. Hey, We've got this 10 commandment list. 10 things you really shouldn't do. I say we put that on the list. Nobody ever said that, but if somebody.

[Brandon Marshall]

Like me did it, then fuck all hell to pay for.

[Bill Burr]

What do you mean if somebody did?

[Brandon Marshall]

What, like somebody black? I want like when we doing it. If you saying that black people have slaves in Africa.

[Bill Burr]

All people, Arabs, everybody.

[Brandon Marshall]

Yeah, they do too.

[Bill Burr]

Some of them do today.

[Brandon Marshall]

Steal.

[Bill Burr]

There are essentially slave situations going on in the world today where people are. I mean, I guess they call them indentured servants or whatever, but it's so close as to hardly worth making the distinction. I mean, humans are not good people.

[Brandon Marshall]

No, they not. They not. I mean, expect. I mean, you know, you just look around what's going on in the world right now so up like shit. I mean, it's like, how do you even think? And then it's like you get so much shit where individuals is so sensitive and you can't speak to shit. And if you say something or speak out in something. I was just looking at some of you talking about the cancel culture and all that shit, like. Yeah, but it's just like it. It's so fucked up.

[Bill Burr]

Like so interesting you bring that up.

[Brandon Marshall]

This show, this show. Tequila here.

[Bill Burr]

This is tequila.

[Brandon Marshall]

No, I mean, this the one you're drinking.

[Bill Burr]

Oh, yes.

[Brandon Marshall]

Yeah, I was just giving you a cheese.

[Bill Burr]

Oh, good. Great to have you here, brother.

[Brandon Marshall]

Yeah, man, really good to see you.

[Bill Burr]

I have to tell you, when you were on Real Time, we got such good feedback from it. You know who emailed me and said that football player was great? I loved him. You know who did that? Who's that? Barbra Streisand.

[Brandon Marshall]

Is that right?

[Bill Burr]

I shit you not. Who was that football player? He was great.

[Brandon Marshall]

That's crazy. Yeah, well, I mean, that's why this Was so easy. And, I mean, I know it was trying to get me before, but I was moving around now. But, yeah, you got a big thing. Individuals like podcast like you. That it was. It's another Conan. Will Arnett. Individuals that don't have this. That. That call that I'm gonna answer for, like, no matter what. Cause when y' all bring me on y'.

[Bill Burr]

All.

[Brandon Marshall]

Y' all platforms and give me an opportunity and there's no judgment, that shit.

[Bill Burr]

Is a blessing as long as this happens in reverse and I don't feel judged. Right? You know, really, you can't do it.

[Brandon Marshall]

To me and you're not.

[Bill Burr]

And you don't mind, right, When I, you know, quote some of my book learning because I was a history major.

[Brandon Marshall]

Right. Okay.

[Bill Burr]

You don't mind, right. I mean, I love it when somebody tells me hips me to something, you know, if it hasn't crossed my radar. And lots of stuff doesn't cross my radar, that kind of stuff does. I mean, that's sort of what more what I do for a living. But I mean, on the cancel culture thing, it's funny because remember when Damar Hamlin got hurt in that game?

[Brandon Marshall]

Okay, when he. When he passed away.

[Bill Burr]

He did not pass away.

[Brandon Marshall]

Well, they said he died on the field, but he didn't. He didn't.

[Bill Burr]

He's playing now.

[Brandon Marshall]

No, he came back to life, though.

[Bill Burr]

Came back.

[Brandon Marshall]

We didn't. That motherfucker undertaker, he. He died and came back.

[Bill Burr]

Okay? I mean, we're splitting hairs. I don't think anyone ever comes back to life. I think you get very near where, you know, the ref calls it, but, I mean, plainly, he was down for the count, shall we say.

[Brandon Marshall]

Like a motherfucker.

[Bill Burr]

Like a motherfucker, exactly. That was the medical. Okay. But here's the thing. I remember talking about it soon after. It was. It was early on in when I started doing this podcast. So I was like. When I started this, I was like, you know what? I have a job on Real Time on hbo. That's my real. I don't have time to, like, do anything except come here, get high. By the way, I ate. I have a New Year's resolution because, you know, I'm 70 in six days.

[Brandon Marshall]

Congratulations, Linda.

[Bill Burr]

For a living, right? It's worth a congratulations just to make it. A lot of people don't.

[Brandon Marshall]

You damn right.

[Bill Burr]

Demar Hamlin almost didn't.

[Brandon Marshall]

I'm telling you what you call it, splitting hairs.

[Bill Burr]

So my New Year's resolution, because, like, I think smoking, you know, is. And I go back and forth with smoking, eating. There's bad things about eating it, but, like, it's better for your lungs. But my New Year's resolution. Eat more pot.

[Brandon Marshall]

Yeah. Like the edibles.

[Bill Burr]

Yeah. So now I'm doing edibles, so I may not actually smoke, but anyway, so I was here early times and was just thinking, okay, I don't want to get involved with the business end of it. So if somebody said something, I just went along, and we had a discussion with Bob Costas, the famous sportscaster, about this Damar Hamlin. And everybody after was like, oh, we can't air that. It's too controversial. I was like, really? Okay, fine. I'm not gonna argue. I should have argued. And then I put it in my book, and of course, nobody said anything. And my point of view was I had a lot to say about that Damar Hamlin thing where they canceled the game. I don't think they should have canceled the game. And that was, at the time, so controversial. How can you say what, we shouldn't have canceled the game? What do you think? Do you think we should have canceled the game?

[Brandon Marshall]

Yeah.

[Bill Burr]

Why?

[Brandon Marshall]

In so many instances. Right. And it's crazy as fuck. It's crazy as fuck. I was just telling somebody this the other day where I've seen individuals in practice, they'll go down, they get hurt, and they'll turn the field, and we'll practice going the other way. And sometimes it was our career ending injuries, and a lot of individuals have that. So the severity of what had happened with that individual with Demar, when that shit happened, like, was something that we have never seen in our game.

[Bill Burr]

Yeah, we have.

[Brandon Marshall]

And for.

[Bill Burr]

People have died on football fields.

[Brandon Marshall]

Well, good. Well, not good like that, but not good like that. But this part.

[Bill Burr]

This part.

[Brandon Marshall]

Good that they stopped the game because in so many. Well, stop the game, they show no decency. And it's almost inhuman the way that the NFL rock when it come to certain shit like that. And I'm saying that from being a player.

[Bill Burr]

Okay, let me see if I can convince you with my argument. Number one, very bad logic here. Everyone said after it happened, the most important thing is Damar Hamlin's life. The game is not important. Correct. No one's arguing with that. Here's where you have bad logic come into it. What difference does it make to his life? Which, again, is the most important thing. If we play the game, he's already in the. In the ambulance, on the way to the hospital or at the hospital. We're not asking him to suit up again. I mean, how could it actually affect his life if we played the game? Would the surgeons doing the work on him be distracted? They have their. I'm watching the game out of the corner of my eye. I swear to God, I'm. No, it wouldn't. One doesn't affect the other. And what about the fans? The fans who spent all that year. This was an important game as to placement in the playoffs. It was a game that had to be played, but it wasn't played. And all these people in Buffalo and was it Cincinnati, you know, these working class towns who. This is their whole life, a lot of them is the team and how the team's gonna do. They sweat with them all year. They sweat with them when they fucking have a losing season. Now they're in it and they. You know what it takes to get out to the stadium in the cold? Babysitters, money, blah, blah, blah, parking. And you're just gonna send them home with a ticket stub because one guy got hurt, as we all see in football all the time. And it doesn't matter if. If he's at the hospital and we play the game. Now argue with that.

[Brandon Marshall]

The humanity. That's what they leave with, not a ticket.

[Bill Burr]

It's not humanity.

[Brandon Marshall]

Yeah, it is.

[Bill Burr]

Why is it humanity?

[Brandon Marshall]

Cuz I mean, why is it that. Look, you desensitized to the shit going on and especially now. I'm just speaking personally for me. I remember my first NFL game, got drafted to Buffalo in 2007. And the very first kickoff of my regular season. Kevin Everett was going down on kickoff, got hit and he land there lifeless. Now, from what they tell us on the sideline, he'll be paralyzed from the neck down. They brought out a stretcher full of ice and put his body on ice. That was my first hit in the NFL. And I'm like, this is what I gotta look forward to for I don't know how long I'm gonna play. Look, we signed up for that. All this shit.

[Bill Burr]

This is the business we've joined.

[Brandon Marshall]

Why I'm saying it was so big that they did that. The humanity and that decision to do that. I think that made a lot of sense for NFL fans around the world. Cause just hearing just the optics of that, somebody just died on the field. And then I just think, oh, got him up. Now get back to the.

[Bill Burr]

Yeah, now get back to the game. Which again, all these fans came out to the stadium and rearranged their life. And it's such an important game. And again, it did not. If we had to sacrifice one for the other. It's like, well, if we play the game, there's less like a chance that Demar Hamlin will live. No, it had nothing to do with it. You know who got this? Him. When they woke him up, the first thing he said wasn't, how am I? It's did we win? Those were his first words. No, you didn't, Demar. Because they didn't play the game. You live in stupid land.

[Brandon Marshall]

The la. The last thing that he. Not stupid land. The last thing that he remembered was that he was on the field. If he remembered that. But the thing is, I know when I call, I never spoke about this either, but I reached out to the family while, you know, I mean, they were in the hospital because, like I said, I've been to that point where I've seen two of my teammates on the field land lifeless, carried out on a stretcher. Like I said, Kevin Everton, then Ricardo Lockett, and Ricardo Lockett. I actually took the fine, stayed in Dallas, then went to the hospital to see him. When he come to after surgeries and everything. Bro, thank you. I appreciate you being here because of how you was here for the support. I'm not sure after the game how many individuals actually went over there to see him, but that alone, that's the humanity and the decency that I'm talking about within the people. If it's all about just the game and the show must continue, the show must go on.

[Bill Burr]

Exactly.

[Brandon Marshall]

Well, for them to do that, that was a big fucking moment to show that, you know what I mean? A human life was bigger than all the hooplop. It is the show business, and everything goes on.

[Bill Burr]

No one's denying it's bigger. It's just saying, this is football. Football's a sport that we love. Because first of all, you know the hypocrisy of this. If they really cared about people getting hurt in football, they wouldn't cancel the game, they'd cancel the sport.

[Brandon Marshall]

Well. Cause it's not every game that something like that happens.

[Bill Burr]

Yes, it is. Every single game.

[Brandon Marshall]

It's not every game a motherfucker dying on the field.

[Bill Burr]

I swear to God not to that degree. So that's what I'm saying. Every single game, you see, you know. Oh, and the announcers get sort of quiet and they go, we'll step aside. That's their big saying to tell you, oh, just scrape the bodies off. And now a word from National Insurance and we'll step aside.

[Brandon Marshall]

Yeah, you talk about maybe a sprained ankle Or I twist my leg.

[Bill Burr]

I've seen one. I've seen ones that I couldn't even stand to look at on the replay.

[Brandon Marshall]

But you could stand to say, keep the game going after you just see a motherfucker collapse every game.

[Bill Burr]

This is football. We play in the rain, we play in the snow.

[Brandon Marshall]

Come on now. I think you trolling me.

[Bill Burr]

I am not trolling you. Did you spit in my drink, you fuck?

[Brandon Marshall]

Hey, we need another motherfucking cup, man.

[Bill Burr]

That's all right.

[Brandon Marshall]

My bad, big dog.

[Bill Burr]

That's.

[Brandon Marshall]

Oh, here, go one.

[Bill Burr]

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[Brandon Marshall]

I think you trolling me now.

[Bill Burr]

I'm not trolling you.

[Brandon Marshall]

Indecency.

[Bill Burr]

No, no, no.

[Brandon Marshall]

It's already barbaric as fuck. So like I said, for them to show the. I'mma call it the support for that young man, when that shit happened, that shit is big. That shit was huge for the support.

[Bill Burr]

We all supported him. No one is unsupporting him. We're not disrespecting him. You could make an argument this is respecting him. This is what he loved to do. This is the game he played with his team everybody has to sacrifice for. Again, no real actual reason that would actually affect his health. But let's get off this. We're obviously never going to agree, but I did notice that just to refresh your memory, it wasn't like immediately they thought they were going to play. They sent the players into the locker room to get their heads together. The plan was we go back out and play. So it wasn't a fait accomplish.

[Brandon Marshall]

All they did was reschedule it.

[Bill Burr]

No, but they first thought let's, you know, let's just give the players a minute. But then they saw some of them crying on the sidelines, by the way.

[Brandon Marshall]

Then they realized, oh shit, Newman, there's.

[Bill Burr]

No crying in football.

[Brandon Marshall]

Somebody, whoever made that call must have remembered like, oh shit, I'm a human. I got a fucking heart in here. I got some decency about myself. Well, you know what, hold on.

[Bill Burr]

I'm a fan.

[Brandon Marshall]

Let's reschedule this shit and come back.

[Bill Burr]

My name is Roy G. Anybody and I live in Cincinnati. And I came out to see this game. I work over at the canning plant. You know, I sit on a pickle barrel 12 hours a day and I put this little screw on the top of this bottle all day long. And my wife, she doesn't fuck me anymore. And my kids hate me. And I love the Bengals.

[Brandon Marshall]

That's married life. They don't get no pussy, my boy.

[Bill Burr]

Well, I see this conversation has taken quite a turn.

[Brandon Marshall]

No, no, but go ahead, Roy. Tell me about it.

[Bill Burr]

No, no, Roy. Hey, Roy. I'm saying, Roy.

[Brandon Marshall]

I heard your mom.

[Bill Burr]

I live and breathe the Bengals or the Bills or whatever. And thank God I don't live and breathe the Jets. Cause they're just.

[Brandon Marshall]

Oh, my gosh, you might have wanted them to cancel the season.

[Bill Burr]

I. Why is it, by the way, that some teams never seem to be able to get their shit together? Is that from the top? It must be, right?

[Brandon Marshall]

I mean. But I don't know if it. Like, sometimes I believe, like, they're okay with that.

[Bill Burr]

They're okay with Lucy with being shitty. Cause it's cheaper.

[Brandon Marshall]

I mean, not that I think it's cheaper. It's almost like, shit, the check don't clear. I mean, we gonna give the hope and in our press conference, to make it seem like we really trying to do nothing, and then we really don't. Like, you know, what you gonna clear? What? I think, like, a billion for every franchise gonna clear a billion anyway. Like, I'm gonna make my money regardless.

[Bill Burr]

That is certainly part of the problem. There is no incentive for the New York football team to ever put a good product on the field, because every game will sell out. It is New York and the population and the history and blah, blah, blah. And they only play once a week. It's not a hard thing to sell. And hope springs eternal. So, like, even if you suck this year, you know, it's not like they don't try. They just seem. I don't know. New York teams just seem to.

[Brandon Marshall]

And it's hard to say. Cause it's like, I don't think players actually go out there like, oh, I'm gonna just be. I'm gonna just be ass. Like, nah. But as a whole, like, you know, I've been in organizations where, you know, it's like, shit, just come to work. And then I actually been in an organization, it was like, hey, I'm glad y' all here today. And you can feel the difference.

[Bill Burr]

Like, which was which. Seattle was good.

[Brandon Marshall]

Yeah. And when I was in. I mean, when I was in Oakland, that was just more like, I'm home. So, I mean, you know, I don't even know if I was really processing or thinking, but, you know, I got to build a relationship with Mark. And it was outside of Mark Davis? Yeah, outside of anything.

[Bill Burr]

You know, they're doing a movie about.

[Brandon Marshall]

Him now, the Madden movie.

[Bill Burr]

What?

[Brandon Marshall]

The Madden movie?

[Bill Burr]

Yeah.

[Brandon Marshall]

Yeah. I'm in it.

[Bill Burr]

You're in it?

[Brandon Marshall]

Yeah.

[Bill Burr]

Why don't you. Why don't you save that for now? Don't you. You're in the Madden movie.

[Brandon Marshall]

I just. I mean, you know, I just be doing shit, really. So, you know, it wasn't, you know, I mean, but then when I was at Buffalo and where we was at, it was like, you know, motherfuck. I used to know. I'm watching coaches backdoor, other coaches, and you know what I mean?

[Bill Burr]

Wait, wait, what does that mean? Like, backdoor? Yeah.

[Brandon Marshall]

Like, the coach was, you know, I mean, he was more of like a player coach. And then the defensive coordinator was like, you know, rr. And he did some shady shit to him. And when he got fired and they named defensive. I mean, the D coordinator as the interim head coach, it was like, I finally got his ass up out of here. Yes. Like, this is my shit. And when you in an organization like that, with individuals who really don't got no love for everybody within the organization, you can't be successful.

[Bill Burr]

Between the backbiting and the crying during the game, the NFL's a lot gayer than I thought.

[Brandon Marshall]

There's some gay shit going on in that motherfucker and shit. I ain't broke, man.

[Bill Burr]

Like, gay gay.

[Brandon Marshall]

No. You know how you like the figures.

[Bill Burr]

Like Eminem used to say, have to explain himself. I don't mean gay gay. I mean gay gay.

[Brandon Marshall]

Oh, my God, bro, you funny as.

[Bill Burr]

Oh, good. I'm glad you're enjoying yourself.

[Brandon Marshall]

Yeah, you is one funny.

[Bill Burr]

Next time you're here, you, me and Streisand, that's. We're gonna like, oh, I could meet her, chop it up. She liked you. I mean.

[Brandon Marshall]

That'S tight.

[Bill Burr]

You know, that would be very tight. I think we. We might have to go out to her. I don't know. But.

[Brandon Marshall]

All right.

[Bill Burr]

But she's busy and, you know, a superstar, and we're just us, but, you know, it could happen.

[Brandon Marshall]

Well, you know what? I'm gonna have a shot for it and shit.

[Bill Burr]

It's all right. That deserves it. And what do you got there? The Hennessy going.

[Brandon Marshall]

Yeah, I got a little hame over here.

[Bill Burr]

Is that what you started with and you stuck with. You're loyal to that.

[Brandon Marshall]

Don't know why. Don't know how.

[Bill Burr]

Well, you know, like, when you're in your 20s. Oh, that's it, right? Everybody does that. They knock the fucking thing over. But like, when you're in your 20s, like, you're searching for so many things in life, but one of the things is your liquor. You know, when I was in my 20s, I had no fixed drink. I was like, you know, and then at some point it was like, okay, I'm a Jack Daniels drinker. And then I switched to tequila because it's a little healthier.

[Brandon Marshall]

Okay, A little healthier. Oh, you agave.

[Bill Burr]

What?

[Brandon Marshall]

Agave.

[Bill Burr]

What's that?

[Brandon Marshall]

And the tequila.

[Bill Burr]

Oh, agave.

[Brandon Marshall]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I got tequila.

[Bill Burr]

I mean, look, it's all poison, but, you know, there's poison and there's poison.

[Brandon Marshall]

You pick your poison.

[Bill Burr]

You pick your poison. Exactly. I picked a different poison.

[Brandon Marshall]

Okay?

[Bill Burr]

And maybe it's just bullshit, but. No, I think. I think Jack's a little heavier. I think it's probably a little more sugar, a little more. I don't know, brown liquor is. I mean, it's. It's the greatest, isn't it? But you know, people love the. People love, like scotch, I hate, but people.

[Brandon Marshall]

Scotch, it's just a terrible, terrible taste.

[Bill Burr]

I don't get it. But people love vodka. You know, Vodka's ain't with no vodka. No, I. Gin.

[Brandon Marshall]

No, I think I tried Tangeray. Some gin and juice and that shit didn't end well. My uncle, for his birthday, we fucked around with gin and juice in gin and juice, throwing up everywhere.

[Bill Burr]

Fucking that shit. I know the song now. Fill me in on the history. It's gin and juice. I mean, what kind of.

[Brandon Marshall]

Any kind of juice or.

[Bill Burr]

Oh, shit.

[Brandon Marshall]

Are you spilling your shit?

[Bill Burr]

No, no, I just.

[Brandon Marshall]

They used to make this Daffy Duck, uh, orange juice. I can't remember the fucking name.

[Bill Burr]

Daffy Duck.

[Brandon Marshall]

It was an orange juice.

[Bill Burr]

That can't be right.

[Brandon Marshall]

And it had Daffy Duck on the. On the bottle. My auntie used to drink the shit out of this. Rest in peace. But she used to. I'm talking about. Take that shit to the neck, baby. God damn, this is family. Yeah, some real shit. I was like, God damn. I don't know how she drink that. Nasty.

[Bill Burr]

Was there addiction in your family?

[Brandon Marshall]

I mean, my daddy was a dope fiend.

[Bill Burr]

Well, that might count.

[Brandon Marshall]

Yeah, a little bit.

[Bill Burr]

Yeah. I mean, a dope fiend, I would say.

[Brandon Marshall]

I'm a crack baby. You feel me? That's. I think that's.

[Bill Burr]

You are.

[Brandon Marshall]

Yeah, I think that's more where the beast. The beast mode shit really come from?

[Bill Burr]

You think it was affected you even as an end. Probably does.

[Brandon Marshall]

Hell yeah.

[Bill Burr]

Of course.

[Brandon Marshall]

For sure.

[Bill Burr]

Yeah. I mean, whatever goes through the mind.

[Brandon Marshall]

Hella strong than a motherfucker.

[Bill Burr]

What?

[Brandon Marshall]

I said I was hella strong than a motherfucker.

[Bill Burr]

Right.

[Brandon Marshall]

I think it gave me superpowers and.

[Bill Burr]

Shit, like, but so when you say dope, you mean caroing crack? Crack, yeah. You call. You call crack dope? I guess anything can be dope.

[Brandon Marshall]

Anything.

[Bill Burr]

Yeah. I even sometimes talk about pot like it's dope.

[Brandon Marshall]

Yeah, we call it doty dope. You know what I mean? Yeah. The thing that you. You like, that you could abuse, I would call dope. Yeah, but I mean dope.

[Bill Burr]

But you. You don't seem like you've ever had a problem.

[Brandon Marshall]

No, I ain't got no. Like, am I an addict?

[Bill Burr]

Yeah. Well, I mean, like, people, I make the joke, you know, that I've been smoking pot 50 years. I'm not addicted, you know, And I.

[Brandon Marshall]

Am not you a doping for some weed?

[Bill Burr]

Oh, I.

[Brandon Marshall]

We are dope fiends.

[Bill Burr]

I want to tell you the difference. I know what it's like to have an addiction because I smoked and there was a small time when I did cocaine. Those drugs.

[Brandon Marshall]

Is that right? You would have added a little baking soda. You would have had you some crack, took that motherfucker.

[Bill Burr]

Exactly.

[Brandon Marshall]

You know what I mean?

[Bill Burr]

Well, I'm glad I didn't try that. But here's the difference.

[Brandon Marshall]

You'd be very productive.

[Bill Burr]

What?

[Brandon Marshall]

You'd be very productive.

[Bill Burr]

I was very productive.

[Brandon Marshall]

Have you ever seen a crack hair?

[Bill Burr]

I did speed in college and I was very productive.

[Brandon Marshall]

Shit.

[Bill Burr]

I also remember doing it once.

[Brandon Marshall]

I don't know if you just fucking with me right now.

[Bill Burr]

Oh, no, no, no, no. Really? On G. Shit. Oh, no, no. Very productive. How could you not be?

[Brandon Marshall]

Okay?

[Bill Burr]

I mean, we got the real thing for some reason at Cornell in Ithaca, New York. That was like a hub for like the best at the time. I mean, we're talking about the mid-70s, okay. But there were crystal Ben's, crystal meth. And I never had a drug like this. Like, you would snort one line, it would destroy you, would be so painful in the nose, and then you would be high for 12 hours and couldn't sleep for two days from like one line. It was. That shit was awesome. But there was a downside to it. How that come down was, oh, my God. But drugs like that, no, not speed. That never. I mean, once you recovered from that, you didn't want to face it again for months. And then of course you did. But like cigarettes and even coke, like, they would call to me, do me. They're asking me. The cigarette especially was like, smoke me. Now, I've never had that with pot. I can not smoke pot for a week. And I never even think about it if I'm not doing something where I want to be high, like living. No, I'm kidding.

[Brandon Marshall]

So that program I was talking about. So when I got put in that program, my first time, I remember, was coming to training camp. And I couldn't. I couldn't blow no dope. So I'm like, fuck. And I mean, like, the first week of training camp, I mean, I was having withdrawals, cold sweat. My motherfucking stomach was in knots. All kind of shit. And I couldn't believe that shit. And I talk about just fucking want.

[Bill Burr]

You're killing me now. I was gonna.

[Brandon Marshall]

Oh, damn.

[Bill Burr]

They gave me my New Year's resolution's. Not even gonna last a day.

[Brandon Marshall]

Did I get you?

[Bill Burr]

So this is. Oh, look at that. So this is just flour in here that I can. What. What form do you smoke it in? Do you smoke it in a bong? Do you what?

[Brandon Marshall]

In a wood?

[Bill Burr]

In a joint.

[Brandon Marshall]

A backwood or a fonto leaf?

[Bill Burr]

A what?

[Brandon Marshall]

A backwood.

[Bill Burr]

What's a backwood? Sounds. Sounds like a insult. You could get canceled for you. Backwood.

[Brandon Marshall]

Slow down, man.

[Bill Burr]

He called him a backwood.

[Brandon Marshall]

I never heard back around my part. So you be all right? Call somebody a backwood unless they smoke J's. Or.

[Bill Burr]

This comes from. I'm lighting this for you purely. This comes from this right over there. We grow it.

[Brandon Marshall]

You grow your own dope, too?

[Bill Burr]

Absolutely, sir. Yeah, man.

[Brandon Marshall]

You got an operation here? I'm loving it.

[Bill Burr]

Well, I mean, not for sale or anything. It's just one plant. I mean, it's not like I have a bunch of naked women like in the movies where they're, like, doing, holy.

[Brandon Marshall]

Shit, I've been in this bathroom over here.

[Bill Burr]

Oh, yeah, that's a doll. That's Whitney Cummings.

[Brandon Marshall]

Man, that shit scared the fuck out of me.

[Bill Burr]

I know.

[Brandon Marshall]

I already had to take a shit. But then when I went up there, I was like, oh, shit. And almost shitted on myself. But that shit was. Scared the fuck out of me, though.

[Bill Burr]

You took a shit here?

[Brandon Marshall]

Yeah, I shit in your toilet.

[Bill Burr]

Oh, Lord.

[Brandon Marshall]

Hey, we family, though, now.

[Bill Burr]

Yeah, we are now.

[Brandon Marshall]

We family now.

[Bill Burr]

Cause that must be a humongous shit that you think. I mean, I don't even know.

[Brandon Marshall]

I'm telling. Damn. Who scared the. Out of me? I ain't had no choice otherwise. I would have sh on myself that.

[Bill Burr]

I would cancel the game.

[Brandon Marshall]

Oh, man, I would cancel the game for that. No real man, but God damn, that's some dope ass. I. You got a lot of.

[Bill Burr]

Just doing this for you.

[Brandon Marshall]

That's it. Yeah, you said you was. See, that's a nice leaf right here too.

[Bill Burr]

But yeah, this is.

[Brandon Marshall]

Okay. Okay, okay.

[Bill Burr]

This is nice stuff. Nice. Now, how did you strike upon this logo? This is beast, right? Cause it looks beasty.

[Brandon Marshall]

Nah, that's not beast.

[Bill Burr]

Oh, no.

[Brandon Marshall]

Like I said right there.

[Bill Burr]

Oh, what's that mean? What's doty mean?

[Brandon Marshall]

So, I mean, you know, between me and my cousins, what we used to call. What you call it. Pot?

[Bill Burr]

Yeah, pot.

[Brandon Marshall]

Marijuana.

[Bill Burr]

Yes. In the. In the. In the suburbs where us lame white people are, we call it pot.

[Brandon Marshall]

But now we're just. You feel me? What's up? Fire up that Dodie. Roll that dirty up.

[Bill Burr]

Yeah, pass me some of that pot.

[Brandon Marshall]

No, pass me some of that doughty.

[Bill Burr]

Fellow.

[Brandon Marshall]

That's my cousin name too. Fellow. No, I promise. And you know where he would came? He would. He would have loved to do this right now.

[Bill Burr]

His name is Fellow.

[Brandon Marshall]

Fellow.

[Bill Burr]

That's kind of a cool name.

[Brandon Marshall]

And he would have said that. Hey, pass me that dope. Fellow or Fellow? Pass me the dope. That's weird.

[Bill Burr]

Yeah, that's some spooky shit right there.

[Brandon Marshall]

You on your shit. You really on your shit.

[Bill Burr]

Well, I'm not gonna start a big fight about that, Marjon. I am definitely on my shit. But sometimes, you know, coincidences and I am, of course. I mean, the place is called Club Random. It's not called Club Kismet or Club Fate or Club Religious. It's Club Random. I am a person who believes things are random. That's, you know, just me.

[Brandon Marshall]

Even this situation here.

[Bill Burr]

No, we arrange this. I mean, no, I mean more philosophically. Like. Lots of people see patterns in things that I think are coincidental. I didn't always see it that way, but I do now. But I don't know, sometimes things do happen that are very weird and it's very hard to explain. I'm not going to say that I know everything. I did a movie that is, you know, let's be honest, an anti religious movie called Religious. But even in that I say that I preach the gospel of. I don't know. I don't preach the gospel of like, there is definitely no God. It doesn't matter to me if there is or not. I'll never know. It doesn't seem like there is. And if there is, he's a weird dude who, like, has no sense of justice. You know, everything seems random anyway. So maybe there is, maybe there isn't. It just doesn't matter to me.

[Brandon Marshall]

But what about your belief?

[Bill Burr]

That is. I just told you what my belief was. That is my belief. That don't matter. What?

[Brandon Marshall]

That it don't matter.

[Bill Burr]

That it don't. Well, behavior matters. Ethics matter. How I behave matters. Yes. What do I believe is behind that? No, because I'll never know. And you have to be a good person just for the sake of it. You have to just accept that a priori that I am a good person or I want to be that way. You can justify by saying, well, it benefits the community, which it does. But ultimately it just has to be on you. And, you know, a lot of that is just how you were raised, you know, and. But again, that's a crapshoot too, because I know people who have had the worst backgrounds and they turn out to be the most solid individuals. And then I know people who had very fortunate upbringings and they're just pieces of shit.

[Brandon Marshall]

Yeah. So when did you. Or how did you. You take that and then turn that into entertainment? Cause, I mean, you are an entertainer.

[Bill Burr]

Oh, I would like to think so. I did not. You think I just lost a Golden Globe? Of course I'm an entertainer. Well, I mean, what sort of person who just loses a Golden Globe along with his 33 Emmy losses isn't an entertainer?

[Brandon Marshall]

Of course. I mean, losing don't. No, it don't define a motherfucker. Or not winning.

[Bill Burr]

First of all, it's not. I said this on other podcasts, but it's not losing because unlike what you do for a living, it's just someone's an opinion. When you're. When the Seattle Seahawks won the super bowl, it wasn't someone's opinion that they won it. You won it. Right. That's a huge difference. They talk about, you won the. You didn't win any. You won the opinion of a bunch of people who were predisposed to think like you're woke ass. That ain't me. So you know, that ain't me, and I don't want it to be me. I'm free to talk however I want. That means more than any award.

[Brandon Marshall]

You goddamn right. And I mean, that's why I was talking about the cancel culture. But from. You say you was a historian.

[Bill Burr]

Well, I said I was a history major. I wouldn't call myself a history major.

[Brandon Marshall]

Ain't that a historian? This Ain't what? They ain't the same shit.

[Bill Burr]

No, no, no. A historian is someone who does it for a living and does it on a level way beyond where I am. I'm just. I'm like an amateur historian.

[Brandon Marshall]

Okay.

[Bill Burr]

It's my interest. It was my major in college. I like history. I have a. I can talk to a historian. I can't do what a historian does. I can't write a tome on the American Revolution, although I could tell you things about it that. That's. That's not a historian. But it's just an interest notch.

[Brandon Marshall]

And I'm.

[Bill Burr]

I'm not ever not perplexed why people aren't more interested in history because it's the story of people. And it's always so fascinating the way they really acted, you know, you don't have to make this shit up. Crazy shit went on.

[Brandon Marshall]

So how was. How was your history? Because. Cause when you talk about him, my history wasn't like that. What do you mean like that? Like when I was learning that shit in school, like, what did they teach? Shit. I don't fuck history. Not like that. But I mean, my history was just like. I would say, like bare minimum. Oh, yeah. What's his name? Richard Columbus came here and he discovered America.

[Bill Burr]

Well, he never even.

[Brandon Marshall]

Some black slaves.

[Bill Burr]

Yeah, again, there are a few.

[Brandon Marshall]

It was fucked up. From what? The picture that they painted of individuals that I seen in our history books that look like me. It's not a good picture.

[Bill Burr]

It's not a good picture. And that's absolutely true. White people did horrible things. That's not all they did. And they're not the only ones who did it.

[Brandon Marshall]

But I'm saying for the history that they was teaching while I was in school, absolutely. It was something fucked up.

[Bill Burr]

But again, like, they would make me.

[Brandon Marshall]

Believe that I'm really not shit based off of what was in these history books and what we had. So I'm like, why the fuck would I be interested in you making me learn about why I'm not shit?

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[Bill Burr]

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[Brandon Marshall]

Go to your happy price.

[Bill Burr]

Priceline. ABC's David Muir, the most trusted anchor in America. The most watched anchor in America. Thank you for making World News Tonight with DAV Muir. The number one newscast in America. Most trusted, most watched. David Muir on abc. Let's just take one example. Spade to white people.

[Brandon Marshall]

Spain.

[Bill Burr]

Okay?

[Brandon Marshall]

I like Spain. I around in the be and it was very nice to me.

[Bill Burr]

Okay, so Spain, right? Okay, these are white Europeans, okay? They come to America. Obviously they mix in with the native population.

[Brandon Marshall]

That's why you was gonna say Indians, huh?

[Bill Burr]

Well, native whoever. Well, yeah, they had to say Indian. Why not? What's wrong with Indian?

[Brandon Marshall]

I don't know. Cause you didn't say it. You switched it. I said native.

[Bill Burr]

Well, because Indians usually think of America. I mean, they were Indians, but they were the Indians of Central and South America.

[Brandon Marshall]

Gotcha.

[Bill Burr]

So that's why they. The Spanish is spoken in all these places. But like the Spaniards, they were as cruel as it got. And for example, Haiti has a large black population. Because the Spaniards killed so much of the native population, they had to import people from Africa as slaves because they killed all the workers who were like indigenous again, humans. Not good.

[Brandon Marshall]

They wasn't from Haiti. They came from Spain, came over there, cleaned up shop, and then went to another shop and brought from different kind of people in and put them under the same conditions.

[Bill Burr]

Well, the French got into Haiti at some point and they fucked it up even unto the. In fact, Killer Mike was talking about this on my last show of the season. How the French.

[Brandon Marshall]

You said Killer Mike.

[Bill Burr]

Killer Mike, you know.

[Brandon Marshall]

Oh yeah, that nigga. Is he official? I fuck with Big Dog. You mad at him?

[Bill Burr]

I love him.

[Brandon Marshall]

He's a great.

[Bill Burr]

Are you kidding?

[Brandon Marshall]

Hell yeah.

[Bill Burr]

He took me to the Blue Flame.

[Brandon Marshall]

See what I'm talking? Damn. Maybe I need to tap in with him.

[Bill Burr]

You definitely do.

[Brandon Marshall]

Was it hella ass cheeks in that motherfucking?

[Bill Burr]

It was so ridiculous. It was like a cartoon. Ridiculous to me.

[Brandon Marshall]

Ridiculous in a good way.

[Bill Burr]

Not in a good way.

[Brandon Marshall]

It was hella ass. That was ass.

[Bill Burr]

It was just. You know what? People have different ideas of beauty and people have. We are all allowed to like, you know, when you order in a restaurant, I like it rare and you like it well done. Whatever.

[Brandon Marshall]

You goddamn right.

[Bill Burr]

Okay, so like, I've never been. What? We're shaking on that. Okay, great. So I. I just. I've been to strip clubs. I just was never to one like that where it was so exaggerated, the. I mean, the bulbousness of the buttocks sometimes matched by a voluptuousness of the chestal region.

[Brandon Marshall]

Titties.

[Bill Burr]

Yes. Big ass titties.

[Brandon Marshall]

It sound like you was in over your head. You wasn't ready for all that ass.

[Bill Burr]

I was completely ready for was literally over my head.

[Brandon Marshall]

Spanning in the moment, I mean.

[Bill Burr]

And of course, you know, Mike breaks his records there sometimes, you know. You know, it's much more. It's a strip club. Strip clubs have morphed sort of into after hours places. You know, it's like. I mean, Mike's wife came with this. It wasn't like some some sort of like 90s strip club kind of scene. It was cool.

[Brandon Marshall]

It's a vibe.

[Bill Burr]

It's a vibe. Exactly.

[Brandon Marshall]

It's a vibe.

[Bill Burr]

And you know, he would get a stack of ones and they'd throw the money in the air. I've never been.

[Brandon Marshall]

Did you make it rain?

[Bill Burr]

I do not like doing that. I think it's.

[Brandon Marshall]

You did, though.

[Bill Burr]

I did not.

[Brandon Marshall]

You didn't try.

[Bill Burr]

I did not. What I did was sit with the one girl there who did not have the body like that. She was very nice. You got a flat, but not flat. Not flat, sir.

[Brandon Marshall]

Not flat.

[Bill Burr]

Not flat, but not like.

[Brandon Marshall]

But was the booty rotund?

[Bill Burr]

Now you sound white. Was the booty rotund? What are you, Karnak?

[Brandon Marshall]

Hey, no, that's.

[Bill Burr]

That's okay. She was a very attractive girl. It's okay. Anyway, I calmly sat there and asked her. You know, they're very aggressive, the young ladies.

[Brandon Marshall]

Yeah, they gonna come throw some ass cheeks in a circle to get with it.

[Bill Burr]

Exactly. I was like, please, let's just sit first and no singles in the air. I would just tip her with hundred dollar bills. She seemed to think that was okay.

[Brandon Marshall]

Oh, you sound like the perfect trick.

[Bill Burr]

Exactly.

[Brandon Marshall]

Oh, so I know they was loving.

[Bill Burr]

You, then it was fine. And that's it. I tip everybody big. Like, not just strippers. I took the waiters and valet people. It's one of the nice things about having money. You can tip in 50s and hundreds and people, you know what? People really like getting free money. I don't know what it is about it, but it really goes over big.

[Brandon Marshall]

It do.

[Bill Burr]

And it makes me feel good too. Anyway, all right, so like. No. Did I participate Perhaps when in Rome. Did I act like a Roman? I apparently did not. But that's okay. I was true to myself, all right. I did a strip club. The way I do it, you know?

[Brandon Marshall]

So tuition was paid, probably. Car note, rent.

[Bill Burr]

No, it was. No, it was a few hundred dollars, but in hundreds. She didn't have to crawl on the ground and get it in dirty ones. That was my point. That's what I don't like.

[Brandon Marshall]

It's for the presentation, though.

[Bill Burr]

I don't like that. Making people get on the ground.

[Brandon Marshall]

You're not making nobody do nothing.

[Bill Burr]

Well, you are. If they want the money, they have to get on the ground and pick up dirty singles.

[Brandon Marshall]

No, no, they don't have to.

[Bill Burr]

They don't have to.

[Brandon Marshall]

Anybody that come through with a push brush and a bag and they'll scoop that shit up for them, though.

[Bill Burr]

All right, Here. I got a question.

[Brandon Marshall]

It's a process.

[Bill Burr]

Say you do the thing where you make it rain. You do the painting and then. Wait a second. You'd make it rain? The strippers are all there picking up their dirty singles, and one of them has a terrible heart attack right there. Do you stop, close the strip club?

[Brandon Marshall]

You know they closing that motherfucker.

[Bill Burr]

I don't think they should.

[Brandon Marshall]

They.

[Bill Burr]

I don't think they should take the strip club.

[Brandon Marshall]

You trolling me now?

[Bill Burr]

Take the stripper.

[Brandon Marshall]

Put a banana in the tail.

[Bill Burr]

If you were in that strip club and the ambulance came and they took the stripper out, wouldn't you be like, okay, well, what can I do now? Why should we go home? We're here, we're queer, we're drunk, we got all those weeds.

[Brandon Marshall]

Slow down. Slow down.

[Bill Burr]

The chicks are here. They need to make a living. They need to make a living. No, no.

[Brandon Marshall]

Hell no. Hell no.

[Bill Burr]

You know you'd want to stay.

[Brandon Marshall]

Fuck no.

[Bill Burr]

Fuck no.

[Brandon Marshall]

Everybody, we being gone but the queer.

[Bill Burr]

What's the.

[Brandon Marshall]

What's that mean? Huh?

[Bill Burr]

Oh, that's just a saying they, you know, remember the.

[Brandon Marshall]

Nah, hell no. No, no. I don't do that saying.

[Bill Burr]

No, I don't.

[Brandon Marshall]

I don't do. I would have been once. Once I seen the motherfucker fall out, I'd have got the fuck up and I would have cut. I don't stick around for shit like that.

[Bill Burr]

No.

[Brandon Marshall]

Then you start getting questioned and shit, and you know how that go.

[Bill Burr]

Why?

[Brandon Marshall]

I don't know nothing.

[Bill Burr]

You didn't do it.

[Brandon Marshall]

You right. And I wouldn't be there to find out what the fuck was going on. You get the fuck on up out of them situations.

[Bill Burr]

Are you, Are you.

[Brandon Marshall]

When you got.

[Bill Burr]

Do you have a family?

[Brandon Marshall]

Like, kids and shit?

[Bill Burr]

Yeah, that's. It would be. Yeah. No, no kids. Oh, look at us. Look at us. No kids. That's very rare.

[Brandon Marshall]

You right, man. I seen a lot. I seen a lot coming up.

[Bill Burr]

Seen a lot of kids.

[Brandon Marshall]

Hell yeah.

[Bill Burr]

Hell yeah. Oh, yeah, man.

[Brandon Marshall]

You feel me, though? But baby mamas and like that get married.

[Bill Burr]

Not married like me. Look at us. Look at us. Free men. Free men.

[Brandon Marshall]

You know what?

[Bill Burr]

What?

[Brandon Marshall]

That's exactly what it is, right?

[Bill Burr]

We. But I.

[Brandon Marshall]

You feel me? Like, when that time come for sure. What time comes for the kids and all that.

[Bill Burr]

Oh, you do want it someday.

[Brandon Marshall]

Me?

[Bill Burr]

Really?

[Brandon Marshall]

Mm.

[Bill Burr]

Bro, you better.

[Brandon Marshall]

I seen like, a lot of, like, I seen a lot of shit, like, real early coming up. Like, realistically, like, that shit fucked up my mind, right?

[Bill Burr]

Yeah.

[Brandon Marshall]

Like, you know, I seen a lot of my family members have had kids early.

[Bill Burr]

Yes.

[Brandon Marshall]

Too early. Yeah. And that shit did not.

[Bill Burr]

Kids having kids.

[Brandon Marshall]

It didn't, it didn't play. But the thing is, I'm not a kid now, but now it's just more so. You feel me, though, in my position, finance the right shape, and then we could get there.

[Bill Burr]

Well, you know, when a man gets married, as this is my observation, obviously, I haven't done it personally, but it seems to me who they choose is not always who the outside world thinks they're going to choose. Because what they're mostly looking for is someone who is not going to kill their child. Like, if I leave you alone with this child, don't kill it. That's like, you know?

[Brandon Marshall]

I mean, do I know? Like that. That should be, like, automatic, right?

[Bill Burr]

It should be. But, like, but like, some. I've certainly had enough girls call me up, and my old girlfriends and so forth, they're like, why aren't I married? Like, I'm prettier than she is. Yeah, but you might kill the kid. That's why. You know, get your shit together. Like, should I get another boob drop? No, your boobs are big now. What are you talking about? The reason why you're not married isn't because your boobs aren't even bigger. Read a book.

[Brandon Marshall]

Some insecure shit or something. I mean, you know, like, do what you do to make yourself feel, you know, appreciated.

[Bill Burr]

And what do you do?

[Brandon Marshall]

Happy.

[Bill Burr]

What do you do for that? What do you do to make yourself feel appreciated?

[Brandon Marshall]

You say what I do.

[Bill Burr]

You said it.

[Brandon Marshall]

I do things that I, that I appreciate doing. Like, like, for one, I, I, I Don't. I'm not like I'm up at all weird times and shit.

[Bill Burr]

Me too.

[Brandon Marshall]

I really appreciate sleep.

[Bill Burr]

Yeah, me too.

[Brandon Marshall]

You know, I. It get to the point where it's like just a simple thing.

[Bill Burr]

Whether you're, whether you're my age, you'll appreciate it even more because it gets a little harder.

[Brandon Marshall]

Yeah, I appreciate very simple things. To sit down.

[Bill Burr]

Right.

[Brandon Marshall]

And have a good ass meal. To sit down and have a good ass conversation with somebody. With. You feel me? No, no intent. Just genuine conversation like things like that.

[Bill Burr]

I'm sitting right here.

[Brandon Marshall]

No, that's what I said. Anytime you call, hey, what's up, big dog, I'm gonna come through. And I'm a function with you, you feel me? Because especially in a sense at a position now.

[Bill Burr]

It's amazing with all the talk that's out there. I mean, there's a million podcasts, blah, blah, blah. I don't see a lot of real conversation like this. I really don't. I'm not putting anybody down. I'm just saying it looks, it does. It just always looks more like an interview. And this is never gonna be an interview. Yeah, I mean, you're lucky if you get me sober for even a minute. And I don't want to be. I mean, if I could, I suspect. I mean, I remember when I was first smoking pot and first getting high. I remember thinking often like, why couldn't God? I guess I still believed in God. Why couldn't God, the truth has set you free, have just. Why couldn't he have just made the pot air so that we were always. I always felt this good. Like, what's the deal with, I have to like smoke something to feel this good. Why can't you just make it that way?

[Brandon Marshall]

Well, I'm gonna tell you like that if you want that, then you probably need to go holla at my cousin fellow. And it'll be like, the air is pot. Cause my N smoked like a chimney. You know what I'm talking about? Like, I know a lot of people like Snoop, blow it down type shit.

[Bill Burr]

Yes.

[Brandon Marshall]

But I don't know, I think fella gave him around for money.

[Bill Burr]

No, Snoop is one of them. I mean, there are other. There are even some white dudes who did that. Willie Nelson, Paul McCartney. I think at one point, not I think recently, but I think at one point he was the kind of dude who just smoked all day long. I mean, people who like buy it and use it in ounces. I was never that guy. A little bit, little dab Will do you for me.

[Brandon Marshall]

Like a dab. A little. Or you talking about a.

[Bill Burr]

No, not like a little dab.

[Brandon Marshall]

That dab shit is boring.

[Bill Burr]

No, that was an old advertising slogan. A little for shit that you put in your hair. A little dab will do you.

[Brandon Marshall]

All right. So educate. Because I thought a dab was you put that shit in there and you hit that motherfucker hand. No, that. That shit is.

[Bill Burr]

But too hot on the motherfucker. I never thought that after you get basically high for the first time, you get a lot higher by continuing to smoke. If you did, you know, I would do it, but I just feel like it's almost just the ritual of it.

[Brandon Marshall]

Yeah.

[Bill Burr]

And it's probably worse for your lungs with very little, you know, upside for your brain. I could be wrong and everybody's different.

[Brandon Marshall]

Well, you've been smoking and you about to touch 70, so.

[Bill Burr]

Yes, I've been smoking.

[Brandon Marshall]

You'll be all right.

[Bill Burr]

I'm very proud of the fact that I've been smoking for a half a century.

[Brandon Marshall]

Congratulations to that.

[Bill Burr]

I know.

[Brandon Marshall]

And it's probably made you a better person.

[Bill Burr]

Oh, it definitely made me a richer one.

[Brandon Marshall]

Well, she did.

[Bill Burr]

I mean, it's just far as the creat. As far as the creativity goes. We'd be doing this in a two bedroom apartment in Van Nuys if I hadn't smoked pot, I think, you know.

[Brandon Marshall]

Well, then you sound like you got some of that ivory. You ever seen the movie How High?

[Bill Burr]

Movie what?

[Brandon Marshall]

How High?

[Bill Burr]

How High?

[Brandon Marshall]

Yeah, with Red man and Method Man.

[Bill Burr]

Oh, I think so. Yeah.

[Brandon Marshall]

Yeah. See, they had some Method Man. Yes, Ivory. And when you smoke the Ivory, you feel me? You get high and you see Ivory, and then he help you on all the testes and shit. And then you get AIDS at Harvard.

[Bill Burr]

Okay, I didn't understand any of that. That's all I heard. What is Ivory and what do you mean?

[Brandon Marshall]

Ivory was the weed they. Homeboy had died. He got.

[Bill Burr]

Ivory's the name of the strand, right?

[Brandon Marshall]

It was the name of the weed and they would smoke and it was exceptional. Oh, my God. I'm telling you, they would smoke the ivory and Ivory would appear, you know? I mean.

[Bill Burr]

No.

[Brandon Marshall]

Yeah.

[Bill Burr]

What do you mean, appear?

[Brandon Marshall]

Appear. He like, he right here. Me and you smoking Ivory right now. And here go Ivory right here.

[Bill Burr]

Who's Ivory? I thought it was the weed.

[Brandon Marshall]

Yeah, but that's how high you get from smoking the ivory.

[Bill Burr]

But what do you mean then? What do you mean? He's right there. A leprechaun, Ivory, he full of Ivory, though.

[Brandon Marshall]

You gotta see the movie.

[Bill Burr]

Oh, I see. It's a character in the movie.

[Brandon Marshall]

Yeah, you gotta see the movie.

[Bill Burr]

Okay, so hold on.

[Brandon Marshall]

You smoking the ivory right now?

[Bill Burr]

No, we were smoking mine. Yeah, I know that ain't Ivory.

[Brandon Marshall]

This the ivory.

[Bill Burr]

It's good and it's down. Talking about the real ivory. I can guarantee it's pure.

[Brandon Marshall]

No, that's some good dope.

[Bill Burr]

You know, I can guarantee that it's not filled with chemicals, pesticides, you know.

[Brandon Marshall]

We grew it the right way.

[Bill Burr]

We grew it the right way. Yes, that's very important to me.

[Brandon Marshall]

Yeah, Yeah.

[Bill Burr]

A good clean high.

[Brandon Marshall]

You gotta watch how high, though?

[Bill Burr]

What?

[Brandon Marshall]

I say you gotta watch how high.

[Bill Burr]

I will. How high? That's the name. Okay, I will. I will dial it up on Ferengo at. What is it? Ferengo? Is that what it was? It used to be Vudu. No, it's the only service I have that always works. It's amazing. Like, everything else fucking, like, shuts me off for no good reason. Like, does that happen to you, your Internet service? Well, like, you know, like Amazon, like all the streaming services, like, oh, sorry, I'm like, what? I didn't do anything. You know what they're doing is they're just trying to prevent people from guess, you know, scamming it or whatever. They make you restarted with your. With your passcode and all that. I don't know what my fucking passcode was for getting into Amazon or whatever.

[Brandon Marshall]

You know, you say that. So you got. I think it might be on Prime.

[Bill Burr]

Well, it's definitely on Fardango at home. Whatever. I can't remember. I can't think of what that fucking place is.

[Brandon Marshall]

Oh, shit.

[Bill Burr]

But watch the movies and shit. That one never fucking locks me out. It's just like. It's just the way it always should be. Whatever I want, I just look up, there it is and then, oh, would you like it? Yes. Success. Nobody ever like, fucking bugs me, nags me like every other device.

[Brandon Marshall]

So did they view. Did they give you a password to log in?

[Bill Burr]

What happened?

[Brandon Marshall]

Fandango. Did they give you.

[Bill Burr]

No, they did. Maybe years ago. I'm saying ever since, they've just like, good, you're good. We got your credit card and you're good. And everybody else is like, ah, prove it again.

[Brandon Marshall]

Straight up.

[Bill Burr]

It's been three months. Prove it again. You didn't order anything this week. Are you still you? Yes, I am. I just want tube socks. You just let me in.

[Brandon Marshall]

They want to check to see if you a bot.

[Bill Burr]

Exactly. That Too.

[Brandon Marshall]

Put them numbers.

[Bill Burr]

Oh, I told you, everybody does this. All right, now it's on your side. You have to get it. Come on, you're a professional athlete. How hard can it be?

[Brandon Marshall]

Shit, I watched you struggle putting that motherfucker on there.

[Bill Burr]

Right? Well, don't put it on your head. They'll think you're drunk.

[Brandon Marshall]

No, I didn't know that thing going right off the wall.

[Bill Burr]

You miss playing? You miss being a professional athlete?

[Brandon Marshall]

Nah, man, I had a. It must be a good career while I'm playing.

[Bill Burr]

Yeah, and also, you must always be in pain.

[Brandon Marshall]

I mean, if I don't work out, then. Yeah.

[Bill Burr]

No, I mean, when you're playing, you can't, like, have all these rough men, like, hitting you 40 times a game and not be fucking in pain the next day. Come on.

[Brandon Marshall]

Nah, I mean, you know, like you was talking about. It's a part of the game. But, I mean, you got the process that you gotta work through in order to make sure you can get to the next week.

[Bill Burr]

Well, you didn't live on, like, Tylenol and shit like that and all Advil and stuff to.

[Brandon Marshall]

Nah, I don't.

[Bill Burr]

Yeah, well, I mean, that certainly is the narrative. Often when you see players or even see them portrayed in movies like North Dallas 40. You must have seen that. Never saw North Dallas 40.

[Brandon Marshall]

Mm. Mm.

[Bill Burr]

Okay. It's the first and best football movie ever. You have to see it. Uh, well, see it. North Dallas 40.

[Brandon Marshall]

Uh, and then check it out.

[Bill Burr]

And what about North Dallas 40? North Dallas 40. It's about a football team. It's awesome. Nick Nolte, Mac Davis.

[Brandon Marshall]

When did this come out?

[Bill Burr]

70S.

[Brandon Marshall]

Okay.

[Bill Burr]

Okay.

[Brandon Marshall]

No, I'm just.

[Bill Burr]

You'll like it. I'm telling you, OG Just remember they were doing it first, and then Oliver Stone, the director, made I heard that.

[Brandon Marshall]

Man.

[Bill Burr]

Any given Sunday in 1999. You saw that one?

[Brandon Marshall]

Mm.

[Bill Burr]

You did?

[Brandon Marshall]

Hell, yeah.

[Bill Burr]

That's the one where I remember Jamie Foxx and Remember the Titans. Denzel, O Cool J, I think.

[Brandon Marshall]

Nah, Were both Any Given Sunday.

[Bill Burr]

Well, they were both in the movie. Punched the other in the. In the face on the set.

[Brandon Marshall]

That's Any Given Sunday. Remember the Titans is with.

[Bill Burr]

Oh, it's good. That's good, too. That's Al Pacino. Cameron Diaz is the team owner, the daughter of the team owner or whatever Jamie Foxx is. Great. It's good. You never saw that one either.

[Brandon Marshall]

Yeah.

[Bill Burr]

Okay, now watch North Dallas 40 and.

[Brandon Marshall]

Go check that one. North Dallas 40.

[Bill Burr]

Yes. It's really good.

[Brandon Marshall]

I know. They in the back of here. And I'm gonna tell them when I get a bag.

[Bill Burr]

Everything they did in any given Sunday they had already done in North Dallas 40. About how they make the players get back on the field when they really shouldn't. By giving them pain. Painkillers and shit. That whole expose of what it takes to get on the field. And that is where they really did it first.

[Brandon Marshall]

I mean, it's a process. It's a process like a motherfucker.

[Bill Burr]

I mean, in that one.

[Brandon Marshall]

But see though, you gotta think though, like, as a game, that as a game evolved, there was more. I think they found more methods. Like yes, with the massage, you got the hyperbaric chambers, the chiro, the ice bath, the sinus steamer massage, acupuncture, PT work, level three stretching, chiropractors, all kind of shit. So, I mean, you know, when you manipulate the body to feel better, but.

[Bill Burr]

It is still the human body with human limitations.

[Brandon Marshall]

Yeah, you right. But the mind is a powerful motherfucking thing.

[Bill Burr]

Well, that's always when they get to.

[Brandon Marshall]

Mind over matter in certain situations.

[Bill Burr]

Well, you're talking about elite athletes, and you certainly were that a Hall of Fame player.

[Brandon Marshall]

Oh, shit.

[Bill Burr]

What?

[Brandon Marshall]

You can't just go around throwing shit. You know what? This is club Random for sure. You just throwing out some what. What you said.

[Bill Burr]

I said, you know, you were an elite athlete, a Hall of Fame player.

[Brandon Marshall]

See, I just probably needed you to say that twice. So when the voters.

[Bill Burr]

That kind of shit. No, no, no one would really dispute that.

[Brandon Marshall]

No, I'm just saying though.

[Bill Burr]

But you know, it's. It is always about the mental edge.

[Brandon Marshall]

Yeah, for sure.

[Bill Burr]

I mean, even the. The most gifted physical players are not that much more gifted than the level right behind them. I mean, was Michael Jordan gifted? Of course he was, physically. But it was the mental edge. You know, there is a mental component. Same thing with tennis players. They say if you watched the top 200 players in the world just in practice, you could never tell who the champs are and who the also reigns are. It's something in the game. Djokovic and people like that. It just will not lose. And that's the difference.

[Brandon Marshall]

It is mental, the conscientiousness of these individuals. I mean, you know what it is? Cause I mean, and you gotta be a little off. Mm. You know what I mean? Cause I mean, you know, like, gotta.

[Bill Burr]

Be a little off to do anything great.

[Brandon Marshall]

You're right. You're right. I like that. You know, so I mean, when you get an individual that's like that, and then they can Put the physical attribute behind it, you get a dangerous person. But using the mind, though, is so fucking powerful. And I mean, I wish I would have known that earlier, especially in my career, because, I mean, you know, I just like, oh, hard work. And I'm be able to be, you know, if I do this, I should be right on time. I should be good. But then when I incorporated the mental aspect of what I was actually doing and I thought about it, then when I broke it down, that shit turned into like, you know what I mean? How individuals say, you playing chess. I mean, you playing checkers and I'm playing chess. That's what the game turned into for me, where I was playing chess against individuals who was playing checkers.

[Bill Burr]

And what's the difference? What's the turning point? Give me a specific moment, like in a game, and what you did that illustrates that. Like, I know, like, I've heard defensive guys say, like, I will notice something early in the game that a guy a weakness, and I won't use it until like 2 minutes left in the game when it's key.

[Brandon Marshall]

Yeah.

[Bill Burr]

And then I will take advantage of that. Is that what you're talking about?

[Brandon Marshall]

Most definitely. But I had Ray Lewis my rookie year. He told me, I know every time, I know what you're doing, every time you're finna do it, whether you're going out for a pass, if it's a run play, if he running right, if you're running left, no matter what. And I'm like, what the fuck? Like, you know, I ain't want to pay no attention to it. Cause I'm playing against him, and I'm thinking he trying to be on some Jedi mind trick type shit. So you know what I mean? But get to the line of scrimmage. Look, we get to the line of scrimmage, and then if we running. Look, if we running right, he'll call that shit out. And I'm like, man, what the fuck is going. Like, the fuck is going on? What you mean by that? Like, yeah, you know, if it's a run play, you'll come up. No, if it's a run play, you'll back up. If it's a pass play, you'll come up. And I'm like, what you mean? Like, if it's a pass play, you want to be able to get to the. If it's a blitzer, want to get to them.

[Bill Burr]

That's called a tell in poker. He was reading your tells.

[Brandon Marshall]

If we line up off six, and if it's a run I want to be a little further away just in case, so the quarterback can catch the ball. And if it's a fucked up snap, he'll have time to recover to be able to put it where he need to put it so I can get a proper handoff. So when he telling me these things, I'm like, what the fuck? I'm like, whoa, what the fuck? How do you beat that? And I mean, it took me some weeks and I'm like, damn, what the fuck? And then it just hit me like, oh, shit. It's simple. Do the same thing every time so they can't get a read on what the fuck you doing? So now I find a happy medium between the two.

[Bill Burr]

Or what you could do is know that they are knowing that you're giving the tell to this way and then at the key moment in the game, do it and they'll think you're doing that and then do the opposite.

[Brandon Marshall]

Well, in the offense, you. You can't move, like I said, so you gotta get set.

[Bill Burr]

Don't do it that way.

[Brandon Marshall]

No, no, you have to get set, otherwise.

[Bill Burr]

I know, but like whatever the little tell was.

[Brandon Marshall]

Oh, no, no, no.

[Bill Burr]

You could purposely outfox them.

[Brandon Marshall]

But that's why you make everything look the exact same. Now they guessing, right? So now on offense I'm reacting, but you reacting to me. But if I convince you that I'm finna go outside, you gotta respond to that. And then when I hit that motherfucker downhill, because you know you can't let me get outside of you, you gonna over pursue every time, and then I'm coming right back downhill.

[Bill Burr]

Did you like win most of your battles with Ray Lewis or what would you say, a draw? I don't remember the games that closely.

[Brandon Marshall]

I mean, I remember the games and I mean.

[Bill Burr]

You do? Yes. Hell yeah, I know. But I don't remember every Seahawk, Ravens game from 2008.

[Brandon Marshall]

He told me this when I was in. I was a young ass motherfucker. You feel I was young to the game. So trying to process what this man giving me. It's like, you know, he fucking levels in advance to where I'm at. I'm just trying to comprehend it.

[Bill Burr]

He feels one of the greatest. There was that unpleasantness in Atlanta. I don't know what happened that night, but you know, people, who knows, it just. It was unpleasant.

[Brandon Marshall]

You live, you learn and you learn.

[Bill Burr]

I'll tell you what did piss me off. Live, learn, grow. There was a place kicker named Justin Turner. I think you know this guy. Turner and he was accused, I think. Now, don't quote me on this if I'm wrong, but I think this is the guy. Justin Turner, placekicker, was accused of in inappropriate sexual advances by 10 different massage therapists. Now, I can accept that. With a quarterback, but a place kicker?

[Brandon Marshall]

Bro, you wilding like a motherfucker.

[Bill Burr]

Come on. Not a place kicker. You just can't. You can't do that.

[Brandon Marshall]

Hold on, man. You gonna slow down on my individuals, man?

[Bill Burr]

I'm sorry, but that's colleagues. That's how I. That's how I feel about it.

[Brandon Marshall]

Why you feel that way?

[Bill Burr]

I do, because places we get into.

[Brandon Marshall]

Entertainers and motherfuckers that been doing all kind of. That's going on. I would say you. Oh, you saying. Cause he a kicker.

[Bill Burr]

Correct.

[Brandon Marshall]

Oh, shit.

[Bill Burr]

Okay.

[Brandon Marshall]

Oh, you wiling dog. Oh, you random as fuck. You said his name wrong too, though.

[Bill Burr]

No, I think it is Justin Turner.

[Brandon Marshall]

No, yeah, we gonna leave it at Justin Turner, man. Cause was it allegedly?

[Bill Burr]

Absolutely allegedly.

[Brandon Marshall]

Okay.

[Bill Burr]

And 10. I mean, any 10 people could, like, say the same thing. Just incidentally. It's a completely alleged thing.

[Brandon Marshall]

But I'm saying, you know, they come together, but shit. I mean, like I was saying in your field. Yeah, that shit is like something that come up.

[Bill Burr]

What are you saying about my field?

[Brandon Marshall]

I don't know, man. Y' all be motherfuckers might just be freaky or something. Freaky motherfucker, definitely.

[Bill Burr]

I mean, nobody gets to be 70 and never marries without being a little freaky. I mean, you know, I mean.

[Brandon Marshall]

And you like the strip club?

[Bill Burr]

Well, I seem to be retired from that.

[Brandon Marshall]

Did you make them at least tell them to stand up and make their booty clap?

[Bill Burr]

No, I did not.

[Brandon Marshall]

That's a fucking talent, bro. You gotta see the booty clap. Okay, people, they could do it without moving they waist.

[Bill Burr]

Yes. They can also, like, light candles out of their pussy or something. Doesn't mean I want to see that.

[Brandon Marshall]

Nah, that might be out the country.

[Bill Burr]

What happened?

[Brandon Marshall]

I said that might be out the country.

[Bill Burr]

Yes, you're right. That's Tijuana.

[Brandon Marshall]

That might be Hong Kong. In Tijuana.

[Bill Burr]

It was Tijuana. And a donkey was involved.

[Brandon Marshall]

And a donkey.

[Bill Burr]

The donkey as an accompany.

[Brandon Marshall]

Hey, that's some wild.

[Bill Burr]

Okay, You've been.

[Brandon Marshall]

Wait, of course you've been down.

[Bill Burr]

The donkey was an assistant. Okay? Let's just leave it at that.

[Brandon Marshall]

That was some wild.

[Bill Burr]

But you don't go to the strip club random.

[Brandon Marshall]

How you think? I know they make that booty clap. No, I mean still and don't wiggle.

[Bill Burr]

How old are you?

[Brandon Marshall]

I'm 39.

[Bill Burr]

39. Oh, for fuck's sake. Jesus Christ, you're not even 40.

[Brandon Marshall]

I'm trying to. I'm working on getting there.

[Bill Burr]

Get out of here.

[Brandon Marshall]

I'm working on getting there.

[Bill Burr]

You're working on getting there?

[Brandon Marshall]

Yeah, that's why I tell you. Congratulations, man. I'm working on getting there.

[Bill Burr]

You know what? I like being 70. Apart from like, slight drawbacks, like you'll be dead a lot sooner. Slight drawbacks like that it is.

[Brandon Marshall]

Oh, man, you done live hell of life.

[Bill Burr]

Well, again, let's not put that in the past tense. That's the whole point.

[Brandon Marshall]

You live a hell of life.

[Bill Burr]

Exactly. All right, let's not put the hella in the past. This is what we don't want, okay? This is what we don't want at 70, okay? We want to think we are in media stress. We want to think we are in the middle of things, all right?

[Brandon Marshall]

In the middle of what?

[Bill Burr]

Middle of my life.

[Brandon Marshall]

Come on, my boy. We got.

[Bill Burr]

No, but, like.

[Brandon Marshall]

So you're delusional.

[Bill Burr]

No, I'm not delusional. I just signed a new three year deal. I have three years deal. I can't die. I'm contracted. Okay? So like, that's the middle of things.

[Brandon Marshall]

Oh, shit.

[Bill Burr]

Top of your game. Just lost another award. So like, just like all my other.

[Brandon Marshall]

I don't worry about that.

[Bill Burr]

Oh, I'm not worried about it at all. In fact, I'm like humble bragging about it.

[Brandon Marshall]

Oh, that's a flex.

[Bill Burr]

Yeah, exactly, exactly. And you know, again, the Golden Globes.

[Brandon Marshall]

Is that what you. What you was up for?

[Bill Burr]

My comedy special. My last comedy special.

[Brandon Marshall]

Oh, okay.

[Bill Burr]

Yeah.

[Brandon Marshall]

What Ron Coogler got what he got?

[Bill Burr]

He's sinners.

[Brandon Marshall]

Yeah, he. Yeah, he from my hometown, though.

[Bill Burr]

The guy who plays all the great music in that movie, I saw him play at a party, like a pre Globes party. He played. Is that right? Yeah. Unbelievable. Probably so. Fantastic.

[Brandon Marshall]

They was playing some shit out of some music in there too. Yeah, they wouldn't let them white people in the house, though. Where is this incentives?

[Bill Burr]

They wouldn't let the white people in.

[Brandon Marshall]

They wouldn't letting their ass in the house. Yeah, he had to invite. It was the most respectful white people I ever seen. They waited for you to invite them in and if you didn't, they didn't come in. Ain't that crazy? Cause usually they just kick the motherfucking door in and just do whatever they want to do.

[Bill Burr]

I mean, what's crazy is that for so many centuries the least important thing about a person, their color has been so influential in history. And the way people act and the way people, what people do and it's just, it's. It's just amazing how dumb humans are. You know, I was watching this movie the other night and it's very funny. It's about this high powered woman who's captured by these two idiots who think she's an alien. They just because they read the. Because they're on the Internet.

[Brandon Marshall]

What movie is this?

[Bill Burr]

It's called Begonia.

[Brandon Marshall]

Begonia?

[Bill Burr]

Yeah.

[Brandon Marshall]

I ain't heard of that.

[Bill Burr]

Emily Stone. I'm sure she's your favorite. And it's just like all we could think is like there's so many fucking crazy people who are running around like how does the world even just stay going? Like it just seems like there's so many nut cases.

[Brandon Marshall]

The indecency of the people that will say the game should keep on going when the motherfucker died in there. Really?

[Bill Burr]

You're bringing back to that?

[Brandon Marshall]

No, but I'm saying that that's how I Cuz I mean like I don't, I don't wake up in the morning like yeah, let me see how many days I. I mean how many people I could over and how much I could. You know what I mean? Like damn. When I wake up, you know what I mean? In my mind like damn am. You feel me though? I thank the Lord for another day, you feel what I'm saying? And I'm blessed to get up on my journey to, you know, becoming 40. And I'm like, all right, what I'm. What a gonna go do and try to conquer the day like you feel me? I done been told so many times like you can't do that or no, don't, don't wear that. That's why your hair like that, why you wear your clothes like that, you know what I mean?

[Bill Burr]

Who told you that? Seriously, who, who in this day and age is telling you how to dress.

[Brandon Marshall]

And what Jeff Tifford told me that.

[Bill Burr]

Who the fuck is that?

[Brandon Marshall]

That was my college coach.

[Bill Burr]

Okay, well he's some sort of old school dick who doesn't matter to anybody who he for show old school and what he didn't. He doesn't want you wearing your hair like that.

[Brandon Marshall]

No, he would question me about when.

[Bill Burr]

You were playing for him. Yeah, why?

[Brandon Marshall]

You know what? That's a good.

[Bill Burr]

Did he think it was because you would be more effective on the field with shorter hair?

[Brandon Marshall]

Well, I mean I don't know, but I know I was doing what I needed to do.

[Bill Burr]

Did you wear your hair like that in the game?

[Brandon Marshall]

I can't change this shit. It's like this. What you say? I just put it. Well, you could have some natural juices and berries on this motherfucker.

[Bill Burr]

And I go, no, you could have had any hairstyle. It was 20 years ago. You could have.

[Brandon Marshall]

Oh, you mean back then that I had. Yeah, I had dreads then.

[Bill Burr]

You could have had a fade.

[Brandon Marshall]

I had a fro. You know what?

[Bill Burr]

I had a. You could have had like a kid and play thing.

[Brandon Marshall]

You could have my shit. I had a nappy fro. You know, when he was asking me this on my way to this. You know what I mean?

[Bill Burr]

But what's the stuff Malcolm X talked about having to put in his hair?

[Brandon Marshall]

A perm.

[Bill Burr]

Like a. Like this hot wax.

[Brandon Marshall]

You said some hot whack.

[Bill Burr]

Like back in the day, that they would put it to straighten hair because.

[Brandon Marshall]

Oh, yeah, perm.

[Bill Burr]

You know, to appease a perm, a press. You know what I mean?

[Brandon Marshall]

Yeah, right. You know what I mean? Perm.

[Bill Burr]

No, I'm not just me, kid.

[Brandon Marshall]

Get your shit right. Get your shit straight.

[Bill Burr]

I'm joking about. But I've learned one thing. Don't talk to black folks about hair. It's like talking to Muslims.

[Brandon Marshall]

Don't touch our hate.

[Bill Burr]

It's like Muhammad with Muslims. Just don't go there.

[Brandon Marshall]

You could talk to me about my hair. Just don't put your hands in my shit.

[Bill Burr]

Why would I do that?

[Brandon Marshall]

You would be surprised at how many motherfuckers come up and be like, oh, your hair is so, like, motherfucker, if you don't get your hands on my motherfucking head.

[Bill Burr]

Yeah, but you don't mind it when it's a hot girl doing it, right?

[Brandon Marshall]

I mean, it depends. Okay.

[Bill Burr]

Come on.

[Brandon Marshall]

Cause if it's on some shit, like not invited, then we start getting into some other situation.

[Bill Burr]

Really? So if a beautiful girl came up.

[Brandon Marshall]

To you uninjoyed, I'm like, yeah, you feel me right here, though, baby? And massage it like this. Nah. Yeah, but yeah, don't come up just touching my motherfucking hair, like.

[Bill Burr]

Well, I don't like to be touched by strangers either.

[Brandon Marshall]

Yeah, that's not a. No, no. Hell no. Back your shit up. Okay, we on when we rocking. But it happens, though. Like, if I came up to you on, like, on your slick back, like.

[Bill Burr]

That'S what you think I have a slick back?

[Brandon Marshall]

That's not a slick back.

[Bill Burr]

I don't know, I don't know. What was that other thing you said? No, no, the thing about Woodback or.

[Brandon Marshall]

Oh, backwoods.

[Bill Burr]

Backwoods. Backwood. That could be a good name for me. A fake name for when I need a fake ID on one of these screaming services.

[Brandon Marshall]

Back.

[Bill Burr]

Fake Woods. That's my name. Slick back. I'm Slick Back. Fake wood.

[Brandon Marshall]

Slick back. Backwood.

[Bill Burr]

Oh, backwards, backward, backwards.

[Brandon Marshall]

See, man, I don't know, man. You be trolling like a motherfucker.

[Bill Burr]

I am not trolling.

[Brandon Marshall]

Yeah, you kids, man. You gotta watch. You like a motherfucker. You got me.

[Bill Burr]

You got me wrong. I'm just always. People have accused me of that. Always over the years. People who don't get it that I'm, you know, he's just a contrarian. He's not a contrarian. He's saying, I'm not being a contrarian with Damar Hamlet. I really believe that. And I really think I've got a great case for it that I made. I do. All your case is just emotional. Mine is.

[Brandon Marshall]

No, it's not emotional.

[Bill Burr]

It is. Mine's logical. Mine's logical and more for the people.

[Brandon Marshall]

You know, the people to what?

[Bill Burr]

The people, like the people who came to the stands, the people watching at home. Everybody that you talking about, except for one guy. He was fine. He's fine. He's in the hospital.

[Brandon Marshall]

You said who was. Thank you. Fuck.

[Bill Burr]

I mean, it's just selfish. Hell, it's so selfish. Selfish was to cancel that whole game.

[Brandon Marshall]

So who was selfish? Cause Damar didn't cancel the game.

[Bill Burr]

Exactly. So who did? And he wouldn't have wanted to, but who did? The fucking pussies.

[Brandon Marshall]

What? Pussy.

[Bill Burr]

The pussies who run you at. The pussies who run the NFL. The pussies who run the.

[Brandon Marshall]

They usually fuck over.

[Bill Burr]

Whoever. CBS or Fox. Whoever. Whoever. I know you're talking about the TV individuals. Exactly. These pussies who were afraid of letters saying, oh, yeah. And instead of going, you know what? We respect and blah, blah, blah.

[Brandon Marshall]

Damage control.

[Bill Burr]

And they could have said exactly what I said. They could have said, you know what? We're doing this for the fans who all year long wait for this game. And it's an important game, and we knew Damar was okay, so we played the game in honor of them and in honor of him. Okay.

[Brandon Marshall]

When you get in a situation in a position like that and you wonder which way it's gonna go, he's in the house. I'm talking about for the fans, and you don't know how they're gonna react.

[Bill Burr]

Cause I mean, you know what?

[Brandon Marshall]

I don't know if we can find somewhere that could let us know the poll on that. Do you believe from the fans?

[Bill Burr]

First of all, I don't go by polling my fans.

[Brandon Marshall]

I'm saying for the fans. I understand that's the whole Golden Globe shit and don't win and all the other shit. I'm following you, big dog. And the thing is I kind of agree with you on that shit too. And I, you know, I made a.

[Bill Burr]

Joke about the whole thing that was perfect though.

[Brandon Marshall]

No, it's good. Cause look, I'mma fuck with you, my boy. I. I'm ready. Ah, that's helic tight. I love the way but them the same.

[Bill Burr]

I love the way the Golden Globes got back into that. But that is so fun.

[Brandon Marshall]

That's not a touchy subject.

[Bill Burr]

No, no, it's not. It really isn't. That's why I'm laughing my ass off. It's so funny the way you said that you connected. You're on a very profound level. You're right. But look, okay, we won't argue about this anymore.

[Brandon Marshall]

But I can't. You really do feel that way.

[Bill Burr]

Damn. Plainly. And I'm right.

[Brandon Marshall]

That's fucked up. Plainly.

[Bill Burr]

And it's okay that people feel the other way.

[Brandon Marshall]

That was me on the field that had that situation.

[Bill Burr]

Just say one more thing.

[Brandon Marshall]

That they stopped the game and rescheduled it to give.

[Bill Burr]

I'll just say one more thing which is I do also remember watching the fans file out and the looks on their faces. And the looks on their face. I swear to God was okay. Yeah, I guess we're the asshole if we object to this. But fuck, he's fine. Or he's gonna be fine or he's not. That's what you can do about it because he's in an ambulance or at the hospital and we're leaving this game that we planned our whole fucking year for.

[Brandon Marshall]

I think they would tell you that they face.

[Bill Burr]

That's what they would say.

[Brandon Marshall]

Damn. I can't believe I put all of this. All of this thought process and break down playoffs and what this mean and all that over a human life for a game that can be rescheduled again.

[Bill Burr]

Well, it wasn't rescheduled.

[Brandon Marshall]

They didn't reschedule that game.

[Bill Burr]

No, they couldn't. It was the dawn of. It was the. They were on the doorstep. Yes.

[Brandon Marshall]

Now I gotta go do my homework to see that game. And even if it wasn't, fuck it, it's a game.

[Bill Burr]

It's okay. You know what?

[Brandon Marshall]

How many other games was played that day? I understand. I wasn't in that city and in that stadium.

[Bill Burr]

You know what friendship is? It's vehemently disagreeing about anything and still having the exact same affection for the person. So let me see. I got this free.

[Brandon Marshall]

Oh, yeah. It's a. Yeah, yeah.

[Bill Burr]

Oh, I got one.

[Brandon Marshall]

You don't really believe that shit. It's a heart in there. I felt that motherfucker beating. You know what I mean? That was for good. What is called content or whatever, though.

[Bill Burr]

I'm gonna release you back into the.

[Brandon Marshall]

Wild, and I'm finna go out there to Jumanji right now after I go.

[Bill Burr]

Say bye to that is. I mean, that is what this show's all about. That's what I'm trying to make my theme of my other show all about is, like, people are just not going to agree, especially in this day and age, about a lot of things, and you just have to have zero animosity because they don't. Like, we don't agree on this, but we're still, like, good, right?

[Brandon Marshall]

Yeah. You call my phone and tell me you got another situation. I'm gonna come. Now, the thing is, if I hit you and you don't come, then I'll be like, all right, that's cool. But I would expect you to.

[Bill Burr]

To come to your show.

[Brandon Marshall]

Yeah, of course. If it's. You feel me, though, like that.

[Bill Burr]

Yeah, I get it.

[Brandon Marshall]

Because the thing is, like, you have a. You have a. Especially for me to just sit down right here with you on this situation and, like you said, not see eye to eye or have a difference in something, and we still be cool, like, need to see that. And it ain't. No, that's some shit.

[Bill Burr]

Because you're never no one. I mean, that's every relationship. Try to, like, if you're in a marriage or a serious relationship, try to, like, you know, have to agree on everything with the person. You're just not going to. You have to learn those three little words, let it go, and just. Yeah, okay. Maybe someday we'll see eye to eye on it and maybe we won't, and it doesn't matter either way.

[Brandon Marshall]

You're saying all about the Benjamin on, no. L. That's not what I'm saying. L. It Reggie, not what I'm saying. L. It Reggie. Let it go.

[Bill Burr]

Let it go.

[Brandon Marshall]

Let it go. That's all it was.

[Bill Burr]

All right, well, I thank you.

[Brandon Marshall]

No, I appreciate you, Big dog.

[Bill Burr]

This was really fun. Yes.

[Brandon Marshall]

S. I can't believe you about to be 70 though.

[Bill Burr]

I know that's I can't believe you're not even 40. That really hurts.

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