Jo Ellis has lived about five different lives, and none of them are boring. Join us as we discuss flying Black Hawk helicopters in the Army, realizing she wanted to transition from male to female while still serving, and what it was actually like going through that process inside the military. We also get into the moment an insane internet rumor took off after a Black Hawk crash, leading people to believe she was the pilot — to the point where people were calling to ask if she was dead.

We also dive into her relationships and dating, along with some of the bigger life decisions she’s had to make, including surgery. And somehow, in the middle of all of that, she jumped into stand-up comedy and ended up on Kill Tony. Jo is open, funny, and completely down to talk about the stuff most people would avoid, which makes this episode exactly the kind of chaos you’d expect from us.

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I Was Flying Black Hawks… Now I’m on Kill Tony ~ Jo Ellis | Ep. 269