Barely Breathing & Shaking Ass

Summary

Coffee Convos with Kail Lowry & Lindsie Chrisley

Episode: Barely Breathing & Shaking Ass

Release Date: July 9, 2026

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EPISODE OVERVIEW

In this candid and lively episode, Kail and Lindsie catch listeners up on their chaotic summer, share personal parenting stories, and dive into recent true crime and tragic news stories, including the harrowing Elizabeth Siders case. They also discuss addiction and motherhood, behind-the-scenes tour antics, reality TV nostalgia, and live show audience confessions. Amidst all the deep topics, plenty of humor, relatable rants, and even a few TMI moments keep the conversation engaging and very real.

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KEY DISCUSSION POINTS & TIMESTAMPS

1. Life & Summer Updates

• Both hosts describe the current chaos of their lives, from peeling sunburns to painting nails with kids and prepping for tour. - Memorable Mom Moment: Kail shares about painting her daughter Valley's nails in mixed colors and the funny aftermath.
  - “And then she walks around the house all day like this… Like, girl, your nails are dry!” (03:22, Kail)

2. Health & Parenting Realness

• Kail details getting a suspicious skin spot removed, her tanning history, and the “never again… but then I do it again” cycle.
• The hosts talk about struggles with sleep, kids still sleeping in their bed, and not being ready for those milestones to end. - “I’m going to be really sad if he comes home from his dad’s and doesn’t sleep in our room because I wasn’t ready to let it go yet.” (34:08, Kail)

3. The Elizabeth Siders Child Endangerment Case [04:30–18:25]

• Kail breaks down the horrifying case of Elizabeth Siders: a woman married at 15, likely groomed and abused, who had up to 20 children (including twins), most living in squalor, many not seen by outsiders, and four adults now facing severe criminal charges.
• Lindsie and Kail discuss the complexity of victimhood, generational trauma, and failures of both the family and the system.
• Both express strong emotions and disbelief at the lack of intervention and empathy for the children.
  • “They looked almost like feral animals.” (08:24, Kail)
  • “At 15 … you got me f***ed up if you think I’m ever going to give any of them permission to get married at 15.” (12:12, Kail)
  • “She was just thrown to the wolves.” (18:25, Lindsie)

4. Addiction, Accountability & Parenting [20:42–33:22]

• Kail recounts a viral TikTok story of a mother who lost her toddler daughter to fentanyl overdose, discussing the nuances of addiction, stigma, and the impossibility for some to choose treatment or safeguard their children.
• Lindsie offers insights (having a background in addiction counseling) into addict psychology and how the fear of being separated from children sometimes outweighs risk recognition.
  • “If you’re not good enough to raise your kids, what are you good enough for? So it’s like a real ego hit.” (33:04, Kail)

5. Real-Life Mishaps, Humor & TMI Confessions [33:22–40:45]

• Plenty of lighthearted, relatable moments: farts, accidental peeing (“That’s having seven kids!” – Kail), snoring tales, and wardrobe malfunctions. - “You don’t get to come on here and talk sh*t to me.” (37:06, Kail to Ike) - Discussion on using mouth tapes for snoring and how it didn’t work for Kail.

6. Reality TV & Tour Talk [40:45–52:11]

• Kail and Lindsie reminisce about reality TV icons (Flavor Flav, Pumpkin from Honey Boo Boo, and more). Hilarious confusion about which “Pumpkin” will be the live guest. Kail ponders reaching out to Flavor Flav for her show. - “Should I try to get him on Barely Famous? … He’s iconic!” (46:39, Kail)
• Behind-the-scenes of podcast tours, mishaps with lost equipment, sleep deprivation, and packing struggles.

7. Live Show Highlights & Relationship Confessions [57:59–60:52]

• Lindsie thanks the audience for turning up at the tour shows.
• Kail recalls an audience confession: a gym-goer dealing with an insecure partner (who’s jealous about her posting selfies), and the crowd’s collective advice to “dump him.” - "You're on the f***ing game and I'm at the gym, and you're complaining about me posting a selfie?... Fudge you.” (59:03, Kail)
• A signature “shaking ass” moment at the live show is recapped; Lindsie encourages everyone to “pop out to the remainder of the shows and shake some ass!” (60:44, Lindsie)

8. Closing Reflections

• The exhaustion of touring, summer parenting, and general adulting.
  • “You know that song where it goes, still alive but I’m barely breathing?” (52:30, Lindsie)
• The duo sign off with appreciation for their community and a hint at future guest appearances.

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NOTABLE QUOTES & MEMORABLE MOMENTS

• Kail (on parenting and victimhood):
  • "As a parent, it is your responsibility to make sure that your kids are safe and they're healthy and they're fed and they're doing all the things..." (16:46)
• Lindsie (on waves of life):
  • “Like, we’re alive, we’re surviving. The summer is good, but, like, half the time, we’re jellyfish. We’re winging it.” (52:38)
• Kail (on addictive cycles):
  • "From what my mom...it was more of a pride thing. If I let kin go, that means I was not strong enough." (33:04)
• Lindsie (on music and mood):
  • “Still alive, but I’m barely breathing.” (52:38)

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EPISODE STRUCTURE/TIMESTAMPS

• [00:00–03:59]: Sponsor content, parenting anecdotes, chit-chat
• [04:00–14:30]: Elizabeth Siders case breakdown & reactions
• [14:30–18:25]: Discussion of poverty, trauma, and parental responsibility in the Siders case
• [20:42–33:22]: Addiction, parenting, and accountability discussion
• [33:22–40:45]: Sleep, parenting, and TMI/personal stories
• [40:45–52:11]: Reality TV nostalgia, tour travel, special guests
• [52:30–60:52]: Live show antics, audience confessions, “shaking ass” moment
• [60:52–END]: Tour exhaustion, gratitude, wrap up

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SUMMARY

This episode is a quintessential slice of Kail and Lindsie's world—equal parts dark reality, personal vulnerability, and unfiltered humor. From unpacking shocking true crime stories and reflecting on generational trauma, to debating love and self-worth in the age of Instagram and recapping live show wildness, the duo keep it honest, relatable, and full of heart.

For realities of motherhood, pop culture, and friendship—served with sass and soul—“Barely Breathing & Shaking Ass” covers it all.

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For missed moments:

• Elizabeth Siders Case Start: [04:30]
• Addiction Story Segment: [20:42]
• Live Show Relationship Confession: [59:03]
• Lindsie’s “Barely Breathing” Reflection: [52:30]

Transcript

[Kale Lowry]

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[Lindsey Chrisley]

Yeah. I was ready to start talking.

[Kale Lowry]

What were you gonna. What were you gonna say? What's your Netflix documentary about raising kale? I'm crying. Okay. Welcome to Coffee Combos.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

All right, let's.

[Kale Lowry]

So you've never. I don't think you've ever been on Coffee Combos, have you?

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Just popped my head in.

[Kale Lowry]

Okay, well, I have a case that I want to read to you and I want to get your reaction in real time. I don't think you've seen it anywhere, so that's why I wanted to bring it up.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Okay.

[Kale Lowry]

Okay, first I have to say this. Do not judge a book by its cover. And second, hear the whole story before you form an opinion. Okay? Okay, so we're gonna discuss this woman. Her name is Elizabeth Siders.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Okay?

[Kale Lowry]

If you guys haven't heard about, if you guys haven't heard about who she is, it's a really sad story. Elizabeth Siders was 15 years old when she married Gary Jr. Who was 18. Two months later their first child was born. And now there are 16 children. Okay, hold on, it gets crazier.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

No, no, I could be wrong. Is this about the people in Ohio? Yeah, I didn't like really, really read it.

[Kale Lowry]

Okay, so four members of the Ciders family have been charged with 16 counts of child endangerment after authorities removed 16 children from their home in Hamden. So the defendants include 73 year old Gary Cider Senior, which is the grandfather, 67 year old Christina Siders, which is the grandmother. Yeah, 36 year old Gary Siders Junior and 33 year old Elizabeth Siders. So all four of them waived their right to a preliminary hearing on Tuesday. And they're basically saying that she was also a victim because her parents and a judge signed off on her being married at the age of 15 years old to an 18 year old man. And then she had her first two children I think before the age of 17 and then continued. She pretty much had a child every single year for 16 years. And then she had three sets of twins, I believe. One set of twin died, one set of twins died.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

So she had a child every year up until. Just about. Up until her current age, yes. Three sets of twins, Yeah, I think

[Kale Lowry]

the last three sets of kids were twins. I like screenshotted it. Of course I can't find it now. So she, it says multiple, multiple reports, which, which includes News Nation claimed that ciders birthed 20 children beginning at the age of 13. Authorities have also so far only confirmed 16 children removed from the home. So that means that some probably died and are buried somewhere is my theory. Police tape surrounds the home where authorities say they removed 16 children and arrested four adults. And the oldest child found was 18 years old, was born two months after the couple was born. That means that Ciders was a minor when she gave birth to her first child to a man who was a legal adult. It looks like they got married with her parents consent in West Virginia. When she was 15 and seven months pregnant. Gary Seiders Jr. The son of Gary Ciders Sr. Married Elizabeth Seiders at the age of 18. He is believed to share 16 children with her, though officials have referred to this as an intra family case, suggesting that incest may be a factor. So it is possible that she was not the one that gave birth and maybe some of her kids had children together. Is a theory that. That doesn't mean that it's true.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

How many bedrooms was this house?

[Kale Lowry]

It was in squalor, so that wouldn't. That's a moot point. Exactly, because it wouldn't have mattered. They lived in absolute squalor.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

16 kids.

[Kale Lowry]

16 children from the same family were rescued from the home in rural Ohio where they allegedly living in squalid conditions, including human waste. Authorities said they were confined to just one room for much of the past four years. No education, probably never seen the light of day, probably hungry. Some of the children were unable to speak. And one of them, an 18 year old, could not write her name. Most of our livestock, most of our livestock was kept in better conditions than the children, said the sheriff. The children, boys and girls, ranged from 1 1/2 years old to 18 years old. Seven were transported to hospitals in Columbus and two. Two were flown by helicopter. One was in critical condition last Tuesday while some of the others were admitted for care. They looked almost like feral animals.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

I didn't expect that to be read to me, I'm not gonna lie. I'd seen it. I thought it was like, like clickbait, clickbait. The fact that. So I did see a picture, like there was like Elizabeth possibly.

[Kale Lowry]

Okay.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

And it was. I don't know, it was just all up. The kids look like they haven't gotten any vitamin D in their whole life.

[Kale Lowry]

Wait, you saw a picture of the kids?

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Well, it looked like a. Like a aerial shot. Okay, here's a question. Like, how. First off, how was this discovered? Like, how did these grandparents and parents get busted?

[Kale Lowry]

Authorities discovered the 16 children by authorities discovered the 16 children by executing a search warrant in a home in Hampden, Ohio, on an unrelated parallel investigation for indecent exposure involving one of the adults. Locals and neighbors had no idea the children existed because the family continually relocated, avoided public records and bypassed schools and doctor and doctors to keep the kids hidden. Here's the thing.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

This is like, all right, this is West Virginia. This is happening in West Virginia.

[Kale Lowry]

It started in West Virginia and now

[Lindsey Chrisley]

they were in Ohio.

[Kale Lowry]

Yeah.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Okay.

[Kale Lowry]

Which is close. They're close to each Other.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Yeah. So are they.

[Kale Lowry]

Yep. They're like, you can cross the border.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Anyways, so at first I thought of the Whitakers. West Virginia. No, I'm. Forgot about the.

[Kale Lowry]

What?

[Lindsey Chrisley]

I forgot about the Whitakers.

[Kale Lowry]

Yeah.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

If you guys don't know what the Whitakers are.

[Kale Lowry]

Pretty sure I talked about it.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

So that's what I thought. Like, just incestuous family that kept multiplying and formed.

[Kale Lowry]

You know, the duponts were like that, too.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

I don't even know who dupont is.

[Kale Lowry]

They own.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Oh, I know.

[Kale Lowry]

Literally where we live is all owned by the duponts.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Okay. No, I was thinking of, like, what is. There's. There's a king back in like the royal days.

[Kale Lowry]

All of them.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Yeah. Anyways, so I was just thinking, I'm like, okay, maybe this is a Whitaker case. Right. But the fact that they were picking up and relocating and also, I'm assuming that all of these births were home births. Yeah, I'm assuming that, like, you know, vaccines and things weren't admitted. If the parents were okay with vaccines.

[Kale Lowry]

Sounds like they weren't.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

What? Dumb question. But, like, they were malnourished. But, like, how much were they consuming?

[Kale Lowry]

Probably not enough. And some of them didn't even talk. I. I guess my biggest thing, my biggest question for you is, do you feel like. Do you feel like the mom was also a victim?

[Lindsey Chrisley]

I kind of want to split it down the middle. Right. Yes or no? The reason I say yes is because she's young, she's 15. She shouldn't. Her parents shouldn't have signed off on the wedding. And.

[Kale Lowry]

Oh, the plot thickens. It says her exact personal location is unknown and she is being held in jail pending judicial proceedings. Her biological parents. Where are her biological parents?

[Lindsey Chrisley]

All right, hold up, wait.

[Kale Lowry]

Cider's attorney and family members. So her side of the family have publicly suggested that she was groomed, indoctrinated, and isolated from her biological parents over the years by the Siders family, leading her to her legal defense, looking into whether or not she could be seen as a victim. I believe that she was a victim, and it is my opinion that her parents participated in it. But I obviously don't know all of the things about her.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Allegedly.

[Kale Lowry]

I'm saying that because. Why are your family members coming out and saying you were groomed, but your parents signed off on the marriage? I. For me, as a mom of seven kids, you got me up. If you think I'm ever going to give any of them permission to get married at 15, 18, 20, 25, don't come ask me because the answer is no. But 25, you're still young, so you'll.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

You'll okay a marriage at about when the frontal lobe is the develop.

[Kale Lowry]

Get married when you're 30. There's no need to rush.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Okay?

[Kale Lowry]

I mean, we're also talking about probably poverty. We're probably also talking about West Virginia where the education system is deplorable.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

I'm just trying to. I'm just trying to think about.

[Kale Lowry]

I think she was a victim.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Also. I can. I can see the viewpoint. I can. On why she is a victim. But also this is my 50% no. The 50. No. And now I'm obviously just making this up because I really don't know the whole story. I know five don't piss me off. Better be pissed off than pissed on. So here's the 50. Okay? She could have been. I love this man. I want to build with him.

[Kale Lowry]

She was 15, so. No, because. Right that right there. No, no, because listen to what you're

[Lindsey Chrisley]

saying, but you're not letting me finish

[Kale Lowry]

because I don't need to hear it. Okay?

[Lindsey Chrisley]

She could have been rebellious. She could have been. I'm 15 years old. I love this man. He's promised me the world. We're going to do this, that, and the third. But. Okay, so wait, hold on, hold on. And then she's obviously already. She's pregnant by the time they get married. She could have been rebellious to her parents and then saying, leave me alone. You don't know what's best for me. Blase blah. You know how things.

[Kale Lowry]

It still required them to sign off on her marriage, so signed off on it.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

So, yes, you're right.

[Kale Lowry]

I don't care.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

My kids tell me 50% know is maybe she didn't. She obviously didn't know what she was signing up for. She was just living in the moment. Okay, but the 50% no is she could have been rebellious. She could have been running away. She could have been doing all of this. So I'm just trying to look at it from a different perspective to where, yes, I can understand how she could be a victim.

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[Kale Lowry]

So I'm going to tell you why I think that she is a victim and that there is no 50%. As a parent, it is your responsibility to make sure that your kids are safe and they're healthy and they're fed and they're doing all the things. So at the point that she's rebellious, why would I then turn around and sign over her to another person and to get married? That's number one. Number two, her. She's 15 years old, younger than me when I had my first kid. Okay, we're talking about poverty. West Virginia probably Lack of education, probably a lack of resources.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Part of West Virginia, do you know?

[Kale Lowry]

No. But regardless of that, her frontal lobe at 15 is not fully developed. Right. But it goes a step further. When things like that, trauma, pregnancies, things like that happen to a person before their frontal lobe is developed, it can stunt their maturity, it can stunt their growth, it can stun all of that. So now we're talking about someone who started when she was 15, and we don't even know what her living conditions were before that for her to get pregnant in the first place. Right. And what their relationship was before that. So now you're married into this family, and this family is constantly moving around. So now you're isolated from the one family unit that you knew who signed off on this. Now this new family is removing her from her biological family, so separating her even further. And now they're probably inside of.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Took the phone. Right. If she had a phone.

[Kale Lowry]

I'm not speculating that. I'm speculating on what I already know. We don't know if she had a phone. But what I'm saying is because they moved around so much, we don't know if she ever went outside.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

It appears that there is some trauma that has happened. It appears that she could be victim of the circumstances. So based off of the picture, she does look like she was just. Can I say fed to the wolves. Like she was just.

[Kale Lowry]

Yeah. Thrown to the wolves. Like. I genuinely think that it wasn't. If the kids never saw the light of day. And the neighbors.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

She doesn't look like she's the light of day.

[Kale Lowry]

She probably went outside very minimally, if I had to guess. Because you also have to consider if she's pregnant all those years and nobody knew those kids existed, she couldn't have gone out very much.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

True. She has no vitamin D. But I'm

[Kale Lowry]

concerned about the kids that they can't find. And if one was in critical condition, maybe there were.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

So they said what, a total of approximately. A total of 20.

[Kale Lowry]

They think there were 20 total, but they only found 16.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

So maybe just throwing this out there, right. The possibility of like a stillborn, possibly, or.

[Kale Lowry]

It said twins died.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Okay.

[Kale Lowry]

And she had.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

And she. Throughout every single pregnancy. She didn't. She didn't go get ultrasound. She didn't know what she was having before. She didn't have a gender reveal.

[Kale Lowry]

It's possible that she went through 16 births at home. It's possible. We don't know.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Epidermal. Epidural.

[Kale Lowry]

Sorry.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Epidural.

[Kale Lowry]

There's another case That I wanted to tell you about. This one's really sad, and I will be curious to see. Oh, wait. Elizabeth's parents reside near this southeastern part of the state. Relatives, including Elizabeth's brother and uncle, have stated she suffered a difficult home life and became estranged after she married into the ciders family at 15. Okay. So I'm telling you right now, I would go to the ends of the earth for my kid. So I don't understand that. But you would.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Hell wouldn't even be the word. Hell is as long as, you know, you would raise. Like, you would blow up the earth if possible. The amount of hell that you would raise you.

[Kale Lowry]

But I'm glad you know, I know

[Lindsey Chrisley]

the amount of hell that you would raise. Trying to figure out. I mean, rightfully so, though, like this. She got married, and then she pretty much was just pulled away from her immediate family. Family and followed whatever they wanted her to do.

[Kale Lowry]

Okay. There was another case. I saw this on Tik Tok.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Okay.

[Kale Lowry]

And I'm not sure if this is. She was a young mom. I. I can't find it, but I'll basically give you a moral story. Maybe someone can find me the story that it was a video in an interrogation room of a mom. She very much resembled Elizabeth Siders. That's why I thought of it. And she's being questioned because she lives in an apartment and she is a fentanyl addict. Her daughter gets into the fentanyl. Allegedly, there are roommates or friends, you know, in and out of the house, some in the living room. She takes a nap. Little girl, toddler girl, gets into the thing and then lays down with her mom in the bed and then passes away. And they check on her while mom is up, don't realize she's dead or realize and don't do anything about it until hours later when they sober up.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Where do you want me to start?

[Kale Lowry]

Let me see. While you're talking, I'm gonna try to find.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Well, this is. This is. This is what. All right, so when they checked on the. This is a little girl.

[Kale Lowry]

Yes.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

When they checked on the little girl, did they. Their definition of check, is it just opening up the door or.

[Kale Lowry]

No, like, over. Like, they checked on her.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

So made sure her. She was breathing? Assuming. Because there are different variations of checking on somebody.

[Kale Lowry]

Yes.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

So if they made sure that she was breathing. Okay, then I guess you could say that. That, like, she was alive. But now, here's the other part. Did the mother. How old was this little girl?

[Kale Lowry]

I believe she was 2. I'm trying to find it.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

So everybody was getting high in the house, and so maybe the mom rolled over on her while maybe the mom.

[Kale Lowry]

No. So much fentanyl was found in her system that it was for sure the fentanyl. Okay, but once I find. I'll find it at some point and we'll talk about it. But basically she was a toddler. She claims that she kept her fentanyl in a bag away from the toddler, and she didn't use when the toddler was in the house and she was taking a nap. And that's why they didn't realize that the baby had died. But they had checked on her, but they didn't call for out. Like rigor. Rigor. Rigor mortis had already set in. And she claimed that she didn't realize. But the baby was, like, stiff.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

There's no way. Because I don't really want to dive into, like, the world of addiction. But sometimes people don't really care who's around them. They might veer off to a bathroom or something. Other people don't care. They'll just do what they have to do in plain sight or around their kids or whatever the case may be. So the reason I say that is because if she's hiding her fentanyl somewhere, I mean, even the outside of the bag can. Can contain fentanyl. So she could have left that bag somewhere, moved it somewhere else, and then the baby. Because you can absorb. If fentanyl touches your skin, it could. It. It. I'm pretty sure it absorbs into your skin. I've seen videos online of police officers, you know, doing like a strip search or something or taking contraband, doing whatever they got to do. Yeah. And it's a bag of fentanyl.

[Kale Lowry]

And they just pass out or whatever it is. Yeah. I'll find the video for when this airs tomorrow. But I just wanted to get your take on that because I'm. I guess my whole thing is like, obviously addiction doesn't discriminate. It can affect anybody.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Correct.

[Kale Lowry]

But at the point that you are. Fentanyl is a crazy drug. Like, it can be so helpful in a hospital and controlled setting. But then did you ever.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Yes, I agree. But did you ever hear of CAR Fentanyl? No, that's a higher. Like, fentanyl would just be pretty much basic at that point. Right. There's. I'm pretty sure that's how you pronounce it. Car Fentanyl or something like that. There's also, like a. When I was a drug and alcohol counselor, I was doing a lot of research and they, there was also a drug that would pretty much like people look like zombies, like really bad and then their skin would start to like deteriorate on the outside. Like you could visibly see it. But this is, this doesn't happen from just shooting up in one area for years on end. Like this pretty much starts to take effect right away. But I guess the high is so intense that fentanyl is like nothing to them.

[Kale Lowry]

For me I'm just like, obviously we all know that addiction cannot, it doesn't discriminate. But it's scary because I funny enough I read a comment yesterday that said like I'm always blaming everybody else for every, all the problems in my life and fallouts and things like that. And I commented back and I said, I never said I don't have a hand in that. Right. But I say all this to say that an analog primarily developed for large animal veterinary use, it's 10000 times stronger than morphine and 100 times stronger than regular fentanyl, making it exceptionally dangerous.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

So fentanyl is a synthetic opioid up to 50 to 100 times more potent than heroin. So car fentanyl is 100 even more strong than fentanyl. And then there's. What's this?

[Kale Lowry]

I don't know. But so I was, before I lose my train of thought, I was saying that this comment last night was saying that I never take accountability. And I thought that was funny because I, I am pretty self aware. It might take me a minute to get to that final destination, but I am pretty self aware. And I say that to say like I know my limits when drinking. I don't, I can't smoke or do any sort of weed or edibles like any time I have to be functioning. I apologize to my kids. And I'm saying all this to say that I do feel like at the point that I recognize that I have a problem, I would have to send the kids to their dads, right? So to me it's hard for me as a mom to look at this mom who is getting high around her, clearly struggling with an addiction of fentanyl. And she sounds like, I wish I could show you the video but she sounds so clear headed when she's sober. She's clearly talking about her drug use. 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[Lindsey Chrisley]

what I think what happens in cases such as that sometimes their thought process is okay. Obviously they're getting drunk or high around their kid. But a lot of people like their kids are their world, right? So if they lose their child, whether the state takes them, they go to a cousin, sibling, whatever, they've lost their world. So they would rather unfortunately get drunk, get High. Do whatever it is with a child there because their child is still in their presence.

[Kale Lowry]

I don't know that it's.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

That there. There was. There was a case. I'm not going to call it a case, but there was a situation where some girl I went to high school with, she. The. The father, her dad got locked. Children got locked up for many years. She fell victim to addiction. Addiction. And what came from that is a lot of people offered help. And then now this is just one of. I'm just saying, a million cases. A lot of people offered help. A lot of people said, you know, hey, we'll take the kids if you have to go to rehab. Whatever the case may be. She ended up ODN and dying with her kids in the.

[Kale Lowry]

With her kids in Easton.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Yeah, kids in the. In the house. So that's just one case.

[Kale Lowry]

I'm sure that for my mom it was more of a pride thing. So it wasn't. It wasn't Kaylin. Kaylin's my whole world. And I would rather do this simultaneously to being a mom because she was a mom. Right. I also think she. I'll give her some grace and say she did the best she could for what she was facing.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Yeah.

[Kale Lowry]

But it was more pride. If I let kin go, that means I was not strong enough. I was not good enough. I was not. So it was more like, what. How will this make me look? Because it was the narcissism.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

I. I could wrap all that into that.

[Kale Lowry]

And I'm not saying that's the case all the time, but I would like, as a mom, when I think about that, I'm like, okay, like, if you're not good enough to raise your kids, what are you good enough for? So it's like a real ego hit. But I don't know that that's. I don't know that it's like my kids are my world. I have to do both at the same time. Like, I don't think it has anything to do with that.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

I've.

[Kale Lowry]

Did you fart?

[Lindsey Chrisley]

No, not that I know of.

[Kale Lowry]

Because you've been gassy lately and it stinks.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

I don't smell it, but. Is it your armpits? Did you put on deodorant?

[Kale Lowry]

Yes, I showered. Where the. Were you sleeping?

[Lindsey Chrisley]

So. So also let.

[Kale Lowry]

Let the record show I was up before Ike. I let him sleep in this morning.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Thank you. Appreciate that. Greatly appreciate that. Because I was up from about 2 o' clock till 5:30.

[Kale Lowry]

I also did not sleep well. And so I talk about on the podcast how the kids sleep in our room. Still, it's fine. I don't care. And I actually totally get. I'm going to be really sad if he comes home from his dad's and doesn't sleep in our room because I wasn't ready to let it go yet. You know what I mean?

[Lindsey Chrisley]

He's a grown boy.

[Kale Lowry]

Please don't.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

He's ready to spread his wings, Mom.

[Kale Lowry]

So Creed sleeps on Ike's side on his little bed that he makes. And Luck sleeps on my side on the little side he makes. But Creed likes to fall asleep in our bed first. So he's. He wedges his way. He climbs up on the bed and he wedges his way between us. And I'm reading my Kindle and this is just second nature for us at this point, so it doesn't phase me. But like he's snoring and he's like, like little baby cutie boy, five year old snores. And I just am like, it's so peaceful to me. And he looks at me and he goes, that sounds like you in my ear. I. You should appreciate it and cherish it because the one day like last night, I didn't sleep in the bed with you. You missed me. You couldn't sleep.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

That is true.

[Kale Lowry]

So.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

But.

[Kale Lowry]

But you gotta take the good with the bad. So you can't get the cuddles without the snores.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

You put the snore in. Snore. You're like, I don't know, when I get my.

[Kale Lowry]

When I get my tonsils out.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Remember when you tried the. The patches or remember what you tried to sleep thing over your mouth to stop from snoring? I lasted a half a night.

[Kale Lowry]

Okay. To be fair. To be fair. I just remembered at that time, first of all, so new. That was so embarrassing. But why was I snoring that bad then? Because I don't snore like that now.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

I think just right.

[Kale Lowry]

Or do I? No, you. You be snoring, but not like that. That was like bad.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

It. I. Luckily there's a fan on the

[Kale Lowry]

other side, so I. I bought this tape to cover my. To keep my mouth shut. And it has like a little hole right here.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Yeah.

[Kale Lowry]

So I can breathe to try to help. But if I'm being honest, it wasn't strong enough. It didn't keep my mouth shut.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

She'd be like this.

[Kale Lowry]

No, I'm saying the tape wasn't strong enough to keep. Like I opened my mouth even with the tape. Like, it was not strong enough. So I. But I thought you said that I don't storm like that anymore.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

No, there. There are moments you don't snore that loud.

[Kale Lowry]

You never wake me up. So that sounds like a you problem. You must like it.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Okay, I'll start waking you up. And when I do, don't look at me all crazy. You heard it here first. You heard it here first. Look at me all damn crazy.

[Kale Lowry]

No.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Remember that one time when you said you're holding a fart all day?

[Kale Lowry]

No, I never said that. I was holding the fart all day. I don't know why. I just. It slipped out.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

How does a fart just. First off, can we talk about this? Okay, first off, the slur. The fart didn't just slip out.

[Kale Lowry]

Okay, it did.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Okay. And it went up your. Your back, but, yeah, wet ass sharp. But number two. Number two, I want to say this as well.

[Kale Lowry]

This is my podcast. You don't get to come on here and talk shit to me.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

No, no, I'm not. I'm just stating facts. So then also, why is it okay for you to be the beautiful, amazing, glorious age of 29.55 or 4. Sorry, 34 years old, and you stand in the. In the closet and piss on yourself? Remember that yesterday? And you came out and said, babe, I don't know what happened. I just felt a warm substance running down my leg and I peed. I peed all over Marshall. And then you said, that's having seven kids. Does. I guess.

[Kale Lowry]

Babe.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Sorry. This is the end. Sorry. Because you were trying to arm me in a. Oh, piss pot, babe.

[Kale Lowry]

Okay, so I accidentally beat myself. Not a trickle. It wasn't just a little.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

What was that?

[Kale Lowry]

I didn't mean to do it. I was in the closet. So we're going on. We're going to London next month. And the. My travel agent shout out to Patty needed passport information. Passport information is in a safe in the closet. Had to go to the closet now, mind you, we had just gotten back from the beach, so I was already a sweaty, gross mess. And I'm like, okay, I need to get myself together, but let me send this before I forget, because we all know the second I start to do something and forget, I'm never doing it again until it's too late. So all of a sudden, and I'm wearing, like, really lightweight wide leg pants, and normally. Normally I would feel, like, the urge to. Oh, my God, I have to pee so bad. This takes me back to my knack days. The last time this happened to me, we Went to the same community college at the same time. And you used to lurk around the film crew and be like, no, no. Yeah, you did.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Stop. Yeah, I seen her. I thought. I thought she was, like, her major was, like, production or something, so there was, like, a film crew with her.

[Kale Lowry]

So it wasn't my major ever.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

I didn't know that.

[Kale Lowry]

Oh, that's what you thought it was.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

That's what I thought. Oh, so that's why there was cameras around you. So I'm like, okay, maybe that's her major.

[Kale Lowry]

Anyways, so I'm leaving Knack one day. Knack. Also, fun fact. Brian Coburger went there as well. Remember the guy from. Okay, so I'm leaving Knack and I don't feel anything. And all of a sudden, I look down my drum in my little 2001 Nissan Sentra with cloth seats, and I have peed myself and I never felt it. So I go to the doctor, and they did this test where they, like, insert tubes up there and they fill it with liquid and to see if your body registers, like, your brain registers. Okay, your bladder is full. You have to go to the bathroom. And it did not work. So it was. It was taking me back to that Depends.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

If you guys listen to this podcast.

[Kale Lowry]

I do.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Combos podcast. Depends. Please send us more diapers, but not more.

[Kale Lowry]

He said more. More to be. I do. People know I wear them. I know.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

So we bring them on tour.

[Kale Lowry]

Also, you guys, Christina P. Do you guys know who. Funny, because I was talking about peeing myself, but Christina P. If you guys know who she is, she messaged me yesterday on. On Instagram and said she wants to get together. Oh, my God. He lives under a rock. If y' all think that I lived under a rock.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

I don't. I only have tick tock. I don't have.

[Kale Lowry]

Yeah, but she's like the goat. Okay? She.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Well, respectfully, I just don't know who she is. Okay? So, Christina, if you hear this, I'm sorry for not knowing.

[Kale Lowry]

She's a. She's a comedian and she's so funny and actually my old friend. You met Bone.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Yes.

[Kale Lowry]

Right before she moved. And she used to be obsessed with Christina P. Like, obsessed, obsessed, obsessed. She was the one that told me about her and got me into all the lore. And her and her husband had a podcast and they might still have it. And she used to work with Dr. Drew. Anyways, I can't wait to get together with her, because I think we would be a hoot. And I'll show you who she is after this just so I don't spend a whole lot of time.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

A who?

[Kale Lowry]

Yeah, who. Like we would be a hoot together.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

The hell's the hoot? No, baby, my Christine's being hoot now.

[Kale Lowry]

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[Lindsey Chrisley]

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[Kale Lowry]

when you guys hear this podcast, Ike and I will be packing because on Sunday. This airs Thursday. I don't know when you're listening. Sunday we head down to Mod Texas to go film with Stephanie and Cody and Wade from Maternal Instincts. We're gonna record with them for Barely Famous. And then we're also going to to go do stuff in Mod Texas, right? I don't know. Stephanie called me and she's like, what do you want to eat for lunch? And I was like, literally barbecue. Literally ate.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Okay, but if anybody is from Texas and you guys listen to this, is it appropriate for myself, I'm not going to speak for her. For myself to have overalls that are shorts. Is it appropriate? And for me to have cowboy boots with no socks.

[Kale Lowry]

Do we want to go on the lake? Do we want to go on the side by side? And do we want to go wrestle a hog?

[Lindsey Chrisley]

I want to do all three, but I won't do all three. We gonna do something as I won't do.

[Kale Lowry]

So shows are San Antonio, Dallas, Houston, Minneapolis. And so I was already going to be in Texas. And so when I reached out to Stephanie on Tick Tock, I said, hey, I'm sorry if you guys can hear the lawnmower. Some of you guys are completely understanding and some of you guys absolutely hate it. So they're right outside the window. So I was already going to be in Texas for San Antonio, which is a random Wednesday. I don't make the rules. I don't make up when they decide that I'm going to go to each location. But since I was already going to Texas, we decided okay, if Stephanie was available on that Monday, we would just head down a little bit early, do the interview for Barely Famous, hang out, do some Patreon stuff, and then keep it pushing to San Antonio. San Antonio, Dallas and Houston will have Becky as the guest. So if you are a Karma and Chaos fan, or if you're just a Becky fan in general, she's my guest. But then Minneapolis will Fly. Ike and I will fly to Minneapolis, and Pumpkin from Honey Boo Boo and Mama June will be my guest in Minneapolis. And the catch about that is that I've. I've never actually met Pumpkin in person, so she'll be the first guest. I think I'm.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

I'm old, right? Because you said Pumpkin, and I'm thinking flavor of Love. Pumpkin.

[Kale Lowry]

What?

[Lindsey Chrisley]

You know, pump. I love New York.

[Kale Lowry]

Let me see Pumpkin.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

You don't know Pumpkin. She spit on New York.

[Kale Lowry]

I never really watched VH1. I've never seen that woman a day in my life.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Never. You never watched the Flavor Flav?

[Kale Lowry]

I obviously know who he is. Should I try to get him on barely famous?

[Lindsey Chrisley]

He's 67 years old.

[Kale Lowry]

No, no. I'm texting PR right now. I have to get Flavor Flav. No, I love it. Like, he's iconic. He is iconic. He is. Like, if we're talking the original dating shows, all of that era, it's like it was Tila Tequila. For the love of. Of Flava Flav. For the love of. What's the. I love New York.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

I love New York.

[Kale Lowry]

And then there was. When did Bachelor start, like, Bachelor Nation?

[Lindsey Chrisley]

I never really.

[Kale Lowry]

That was, like, way above my. Well, because I went from family's pay grade.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

I went from VH1 to, like, MTV with Next Real World, Road Rules.

[Kale Lowry]

My first crush was a girl on Road Rules.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

I believe it.

[Kale Lowry]

What year did the Bachelor start? The Bachelor?

[Lindsey Chrisley]

2009. I don't know.

[Kale Lowry]

20. No, 2002. So what year. What year was Flavor Flav? Oh, wait, he's not. I thought that was the first time we had ever seen that, man. No, it was on that show. It says Flavor Flav first came into main. Into the mainstream as a founding member and hype man for the hip hop group Public Enemy, which formed in 1982.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Yeah. What?

[Kale Lowry]

I thought that was just some, like, kind of group. Hell, Tik Tok. People get started now, like, you just don't know where they just, like, pop up and they take over the world. You know what I'm saying? Like, I just thought that that was like a. Like a fluke. They just knew who. Like, they found him, and then they.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

The guy with a clock.

[Kale Lowry]

Yes. No, I had no idea that he was, like, part of something so much. Where have I been in a cave? He's never been legally married.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

How many kids? I think he has a.

[Kale Lowry]

They have a son. He has a son together, and I'm just blown away. So were him in New York dating

[Lindsey Chrisley]

for the TV show? It Came down to contestants, and then it came down to who he wanted, Pumpkin or New York. And he chose New York. And towards, like, the end of, like, the show or something, Pumpkin ends up spitting on New York. Like, honks a loogie.

[Kale Lowry]

Ew. Honks.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Honks a loogie.

[Kale Lowry]

Hawks honk.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Look, I'm pull it up on the youtubes

[Kale Lowry]

better than you making your exit right now. Yes, the hell I do. Buy pumpkin. Bye, Pumpkin. New York and Pumpkin, they started going back and forth. It was crazy. Lisa, I don't look like a pumpkin. Give me a hug, bitch. You look like a man. And you need that facelift. And get rid of crow's feet with that fucking. I don't even pay no attention. You're bigger. Okay, Okay. I love you. I love you too. Get her out of here. Okay, she's actually.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

I can talk.

[Kale Lowry]

The stupid. Slap me, You motherfucking whore. You. You put your hands on me. Did you see that? Spitting my face. I will take you out because I'm staying in the house and you're eliminated. You're going to spit in my hair? Wait, she spit in my face. I don't play say that now. You gotta go for real.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

That's it. I grew up on.

[Kale Lowry]

Oh, I remember flames, but I don't remember. I didn't see any of it.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

I had it. I had it wrong. So it was down to, like, the final three. Wasn't like the pumpkin in New York. So it was pumpkin New York and hoops. Hoops and hoops. Obviously hoops. It was hoops or pumpkin. I'm pretty sure that's what it came from.

[Kale Lowry]

Okay, don't quote me on this, but if that's the hoops that I'm thinking of. They tried to get me to box her in a celebrity boxing match.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Probably.

[Kale Lowry]

Let me see her. Google her. Yeah, I'm pretty sure they. And maybe they. I don't know if they ever went to her. Yep, yep. I don't think they ever went to her about it. They might have. If anyone follows hoops on any social media, you'll have to ask her. I've never met her, but they. They did reach out to me. It was like this big celebrity boxing thing, and it was like, you could fight hoops in a. Like for $50,000 or something like that. And it was all rigged, but. And I was like, I don't know who that is. Like, I don't want to. I'm not gonna go up against somebody I don't know. Like, I didn't know. Yeah, that's so crazy. What a small world that. Did she spit on me?

[Lindsey Chrisley]

That's. That's the pumpkin I thought you were talking about. No, what pumpkin are you talking about? Because I grew up on that pumpkin.

[Kale Lowry]

This is the pumpkin that's going to be.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Because I tuned in the Flavor of Love. Because it was. It was good. At least at the time.

[Kale Lowry]

So pumpkin that is coming to my show. She has a spicy account.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Oh.

[Kale Lowry]

So this is Pumpkin, And I got into it with her mom last year, so that's going to be my guess for Minneapolis.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Okay. Yeah, I was just thinking of Flavor of Love.

[Kale Lowry]

Right.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

I wouldn't shout out to this version of Pumpkin. Do what you got to do. Does she have kids?

[Kale Lowry]

I think she does.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Do what you got to do to feed them babies.

[Kale Lowry]

Okay, well, on that note, we are gonna go do whatever we gotta do. I feel like we've recorded enough. I. I think so. Do you have anything you would like to say? How do you think our summer's going?

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Honestly? You know that song where it goes, still alive, but I'm barely breathing?

[Kale Lowry]

That is not where I thought you were going with this.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Pray to a God that I don't believe it. It's a song. It's a song. Okay. Like, we're alive, we're surviving. Like, the summer is good, but, like, half the time, we're jellyfish. Yeah. We're winging it. We're winging it. We're jellies. We're just. Just floating like. Babe, did you. Did you do that?

[Kale Lowry]

Huh?

[Lindsey Chrisley]

What are you talking about? We talked about it 10 minutes ago. I don't. I.

[Kale Lowry]

Is that me or you?

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Just because.

[Kale Lowry]

Is that me or you?

[Lindsey Chrisley]

It's you. Just because I look at you doesn't mean that I see you.

[Kale Lowry]

I said that to him. I did say that. Did I know, because. Why did you say something to me? Just because I'm looking at you doesn't mean I'm listening. I don't know what you said. I don't know if you were talking to me. Just because I see you. Because he said he said something and said I was looking right at him. Let's talk about money for a second. We know times are tough right now especially. We're all feeling it. I know you guys are. We are. And I want to remind you that Rocket Money is a really great place to start. If you're looking to save some money, cut out what you don't need. And if you're like me and you're forgetting about trial subscriptions or subscriptions that you're paying for subscriptions that you're not using. Rocket Money can help with all of that. Rocket Money can track your subscriptions and has the ability to cancel unwanted ones within the app. Just a few taps, saving users over $880 million in canceled subscriptions. When I first started with Rocket Money, they helped me cancel eight subscriptions right off the bat. And you can set up automatic transaction categorization across all your accounts, plus create customizable categories and tags to reveal your spending patterns. For me, I wanted to see exactly how much we were spending on takeout because I hate cooking and our lives are crazy, but it's not realistic to cook every night. What is a budget? What works for us? What are we currently spending? All of those things. You can also set budgets and goals to get personalized insights and regular reports. And you'll receive real time alerts for large transactions, upcoming bills, refunds and low balances. And here's the thing. Users who create a financial goal with Rocket money save over $70 on average within the first 30 days. So that's $70 towards a flight, towards a savings, towards your kids college fund, whatever that looks like. So you guys can consolidate your checking, savings, loans and investments into one single dashboard to give you a clear view of your entire financial picture. And you guys can set it and forget it with that kind of approach on Rocket Money. Rocket Money is a personal finance app that helps you find and cancel unwanted subscriptions, monitors your spending and helps lower your so you can grow your savings. Let Rocket Money help you reach your financial goals faster. Join@rocket money.com Coffee Combos that's rocket money.com Coffee Combos rocket money.com Coffee Combos I haven't been medicated in like two months. I am struggling. We sl. Okay, let me just break it down for you guys. When I tell you guys that I am busting my ass, I am not kidding, okay? Tour is taking me the out. When I tell you we got back from tour, we took a red eye home from on Friday. Our flight took off at 10.45pm we landed at 7am on Saturday. When I tell you I never do this unless I'm sick. Okay? And we got home, we showered to wash the airport off of us. Got in bed, slept for I slept for three hours. He slept for four hours. We wake up to eat and we went back to bed and we slept. And this was on Saturday, the 4th of July. We didn't watch fireworks. We did not get out of bed except for to eat. And then in the morning at 9am on Sunday on July 5, I got my kids. Like, I'm telling you, I have never done that unless I was sick. We are struggling, okay? The last tour, we had to go to Target and buy more clothes because I underpacked. I was not prepared. I.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

This time, like, for Texas, you're bringing your own suitcase because we mixed our stuff, right? Why did you mess up my stuff looking for yours?

[Kale Lowry]

I'm doing my best, okay? Because I also. I also, in Indianapolis, the first leg of the tour, left all my podcast equipment in the hotel room and thank the gods. Thank you, Rihanna. Because Becky ended up saying, could she stay in our hotel room when we left? And I said, yeah, of course. Left all of my podcast equipment in a suitcase. And Becky was like, what is this? And I was like, oh, my God, I left it. And so she has all the stuff. She overnighted it be. That's like, I should be there. You know what I mean? It's just with Elliot. So I forget the podcast equipment. Need podcast equipment. Was not able to record in Phoenix during the day like I was supposed to because I had left the equipment with Becky in New Jersey and she was in Michigan and so.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Left the equipment in Michigan.

[Kale Lowry]

No, I left the equipment in Indianapolis, and when Becky flew home with it, she left it at home and in New Jersey and then she went to Michigan. So she overnighted it finally. It should be here tonight at 8 o' clock so that we have it for when we leave to Texas.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

How long ago was it? Like a month ago.

[Kale Lowry]

So we're doing our best and I'm just struggling, so. And then obviously things happened on this. For this podcast, we're trying to keep our heads above water.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Anyway, all I'm trying to say is this. Okay, I know you want to get off, but I want to say this for everybody who showed up to each venue for tour. Thank you, guys. You guys have brought a lot of fun and excitement, a lot of joy, a lot of energy. You know, everybody, we're starting to show what we've started to show off just by. Who's shaking ass tonight?

[Kale Lowry]

That was Alessandro. Alessandro was like, we're just doing a twerk.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Hey, who is shaking ass tonight? And there was this one girl.

[Kale Lowry]

The halter top?

[Lindsey Chrisley]

No, no, there was this one girl. So her. Her partner was insecure about her.

[Kale Lowry]

Oh, I think that. I think her name was. Was her name Kayla? I don't know. The Holy jeans, black top. Yeah, I know exactly who you're talking about.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

So her. Her partner was insecure about her, right? I guess she's a gym girly. That's what you call it?

[Kale Lowry]

She was hot. She should be a gym girl. I mean, she was great.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

So you thought she was hot? No, she reminded me of, like, us, a relative, like a younger nature.

[Kale Lowry]

Oh, fair. Okay, well, I thought she was hot, so.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

So it came down to her being on the mic, saying so, you know, confession or some like that. And then what it came down to is she facetimes him. He's on the game, minding his business, whatever. She brings the phone up to Kale.

[Kale Lowry]

This was on a live show.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

On a live show. Where were we?

[Kale Lowry]

I think that one was Phoenix.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Was it Phoenix? Yeah, in Phoenix. And she brings the phone up and long story short, they're like, dump them.

[Kale Lowry]

I just said, dump them. Because he was saying, like, she's posting thirst traps from the gym to get attention. And I said, okay. And that's acceptable. I said, the only people that can do it is a man, because if a man does it, it's weird. So dump them. And also, you're not going to tell me about my selfies. If I want to take a selfie at the gym, I'm holding myself accountable and I look hot and I'm going to the gym, and you're on the fucking game. You are on the game and I'm at the gym, and you're complaining about me posting a selfie at the gym. Fudge you.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

What if it wasn't a selfie, though? What if it was like, oh, just

[Kale Lowry]

got that pump as she. I'm just saying.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Hey. I told her, I said, hey, do what you got to do. Right?

[Kale Lowry]

Because a woman. Right.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

What you got to do? Because social media is all about likes and shares, right?

[Kale Lowry]

Well, maybe she's trying to build a, like, gym brand. We don't know.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

So I also think that that prompt. Actually, she started shaking ass before she

[Kale Lowry]

brought that, as she should up.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

So, long story short, listen, man, if you're insecure about your partner and then posting selfies or gym workout pictures, just. It ain't really that deep. Social media. Other than that, make sure you all pop out to the remainder of the shows.

[Kale Lowry]

Yes.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

And shake some ass.

[Kale Lowry]

I don't know if we're shaking ass at everyone, but we'll see. It depends what the vibes are. It depends what the vibes are.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Texas is coming up. All the is shaking ass and throwing

[Kale Lowry]

ass in Texas, everyone. Thank you for being with us over the last six weeks, and I really appreciate you being here.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

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[Kale Lowry]

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[Kale Lowry]

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[Kale Lowry]

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