Coffee Convos with Kail Lowry and Lindsie Chrisley
Episode: Bhabie v Barker & Dealing with ADHD and OCD
Release Date: February 27, 2025
Episode Overview
This episode is a classic Coffee Convos blend of candid personal updates, lighthearted banter, and deeper dives into complex topics. Kail and Lindsie open up about everything from their children’s latest antics and their hot takes on fast food, to the internet drama between Bhad Bhabie and Alabama Barker. The hosts dedicate significant time to discussing mental health, with an honest exploration of ADHD and OCD experiences—sharing both their adult and parenting journeys. The show closes with an advice segment and listener “foul play” story, keeping things relatable and humorous.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
1. Catching Up: Family, Haircare, and Going with the Flow
- Kail and Lindsie compare notes on how shaker bottles always mysteriously disappear, agreeing that expensive bottles vanish most often.
- Lindsie narrates her son Jackson’s late-night cooking experiments, including making homemade Cane’s sauce with no chicken in the house.
- Kail and Lindsie riff on the mediocrity of various fast food chains, particularly Raising Cane’s and Chick-fil-A, and speculate about ingredient changes impacting taste and texture.
- “Cane sauce is okay, but the chicken itself is very… is mediocre at best.” – Kail (03:06)
2. Vacations Gone Wrong & Airbnb Woes
- Lindsie shares her canceled beach trip due to a sudden cold front and the trouble with non-refundable Airbnb bookings.
- Kail adds her own tale of canceling an L.A. trip due to wildfires and the perils of nonrefundable reservations.
- “There was just several reasons that I was like, I do not feel like it would be a good decision for me to go, and I could not get my money back for the Airbnb.” – Kail (05:15)
3. Beauty Routines: Hair Training & Skincare Upgrades
- The hosts chat about their efforts to “train” their hair for less frequent washing, the power of setting powder, and retinol-induced skin flaking.
- Lindsie talks rediscovering a skincare routine with Zeo and how “having the full lineup” is better than piecemeal products.
- “Having, like, the full lineup of one brand that’s really good is very advisable.” – Lindsie (08:38)
4. Pop Culture Deep Dive: Bhad Bhabie vs. Alabama Barker
- Kail offers a detailed breakdown of the online feud between Bhad Bhabie (Danielle “Cash Me Outside”) and Alabama Barker, including alleged drama over relationships, pregnancy rumors, diss tracks, and celebrity family entanglements.
- Explained from 13:00–18:00
- “Let that sink in for a second. And Alabama Barker comes back... writes a diss track back to Bhad Bhabie. Now. They’re both bops!” – Kail (15:23)
- The conversation veers into Travis Barker’s past, celebrity houses, and the tangled web of Kardashian-adjacent relationships (Tyga’s links to Kylie, Black Chyna, and Alabama Barker).
- Both hosts express concern about the age gaps in relationships with Tyga and young women.
- “My bigger concern is Tyga sleeping with minors and like teenagers... I am concerned.” – Kail (19:32)
5. Mental Health Real Talk: ADHD and Medication
- Kail discusses her adult ADHD diagnosis, struggles with Strattera (non-stimulant medication), and the exhaustion and side effects that led her to quit after just 7 days.
- “At the point that I took a two-hour nap…I said I can’t do this. Like, I’m so tired that I cannot function.” – Kail (24:52)
- Genetic testing (GeneSight) is discussed as a way to match medication, and Kail shares frustration with cycling through meds.
- Lindsie describes her experience with OCD-like symptoms after childbirth, including obsessive cleaning and anxiety, and a rough experience with prescribed medication that caused disturbing side effects.
- “I remember waking up…feeling like spiders crawling on me. And so I was like, I can never do this medicine ever again.” – Lindsie (25:54–28:09)
6. Parenting Kids with ADHD & OCD
- The hosts discuss how ADHD and OCD manifest differently (beyond stereotypes like repetitive counting or hand-washing).
- “There’s this really, really, really common misconception about what OCD is…that’s not always the case.” – Kail (25:54)
- Lindsie details Jackson’s ADHD journey, from dietary experiments (eliminating red dye) to finally starting medication, which she uses exclusively for school—not at home.
- “I don’t need him to be that focused whenever we’re at home…he does not have medication from the time school gets out until a week before school starts for summer.” – Lindsie (35:20)
- The challenges of getting a proper diagnosis, masking behaviors at school, and navigating school bureaucracy for support plans (504, IEP) are discussed extensively.
- “How else do you get a proper diagnosis when they’re masking at school?” – Kail (37:52)
- Lindsie offers practical advice on the testing process, including splitting appointments over multiple days to reduce stress.
7. Listener Mail: Finding Yourself Again (“Filling Your Cup”)
- Kail and Lindsie reflect on losing themselves in motherhood, work, or relationships—offering practical suggestions for rekindling friendships and finding fulfilling hobbies or self-care routines.
- “I challenge her to try something that she wouldn’t picture herself normally liking or gravitating towards.” – Kail (45:06)
- Lindsie shares that discovering a real hobby (beyond beauty routines) like dining out and food adventures became self-care.
8. Lighthearted, Relatable Moments
- The hosts riff on:
- Pronunciation differences: “tournament” vs. “tournament,” “often” with or without the T, and “oil” vs. “ol.”
- Kail: “[smelly] feet can be genetic!” (57:50)
- Kail recounts a hilarious “foul play” listener story of preeclampsia and mortifyingly smelly feet at an OB appointment, sparking a debate about feet hygiene and whether preeclampsia causes bad foot odor.
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
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On Bhad Bhabie v. Alabama Barker:
“It’s nice to look at someone else’s drama for a change, because for a long time I was… the wild one. The train wreck.”
—Kail (17:49) -
On ADHD Medication Struggles:
“I was so tired that I was like reverting back to when I was on my antidepressants.”
—Kail (24:52) -
On ADHD Symptoms in the Home:
“I’ll start a sentence, and I’ll stop mid-sentence and not even remember that I was talking in the middle of a sentence.”
—Kail (30:04) -
On Making New Friends/Hobbies:
“Maybe for her it’s crafting…just start and then—or if she has kids…I met a lot of really decent people, a lot of good friends in kid—my kids’ sports.”
—Kail (45:28) -
On Being a ‘Foodie’ as a Hobby:
“My hobby is going out and fine dining. Like, I absolutely love a restaurant environment… I look for restaurants on Instagram to look at aesthetics…”
—Lindsie (49:00) -
On Smelly Feet and Genetics:
“Is smelly feet genetic?…People have googled this before. Yes, it can be. Genetics can play a role in smelly feet.”
—Kail, reading Google results (57:50)
Noteworthy Timestamps
- 03:00–04:30 – Fast food hot takes, losing Airbnbs to weather woes
- 13:00–18:00 – Bhad Bhabie v. Alabama Barker feud breakdown
- 24:51–34:50 – Honest ADHD & OCD medication discussions (adult and parenting experiences)
- 44:05–49:30 – Listener advice: Reclaiming happiness, hobbies, and identity
- 55:18–59:59 – Listener “foul play” story: Smelly feet at the OB/GYN and ensuing hygiene debate
Tone & Style
The episode is conversational, candid, and often irreverently funny—poking fun at themselves, pop culture, and the chaos of everyday life. Kail and Lindsie maintain their signature blend of support and sass, balancing emotional insights with comic relief. Their vulnerability about mental health and family struggles is both affirming and relatable.
In Summary
Anyone tuning into this episode will get an engaging mix of pop culture breakdowns, relatable mom struggles, sharply funny banter, and heartfelt mental health talk. The forthrightness with which Kail and Lindsie approach taboo subjects—whether it’s the realities of ADHD medication or internet drama among celebrity teens—offers support, validation, and the feeling of a judgment-free, friend-to-friend coffee chat.
For those wrestling with similar struggles or just in need of a laugh, this timely installment gives both compassionate advice and plenty of real-life reassurance.
