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Podcast Host 1 (Kale Lowry)
I hate gift giving and receiving.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
Receiving gifts is so weird. What do you say? Thank you.
Podcast Host 1 (Kale Lowry)
This is Coffee Convos with Kale Lowry and Lindsay Chrisley. I really want you to be in your feels. Kale.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
That does not interest me whatsoever. I feel very attacked by you.
Podcast Host 1 (Kale Lowry)
A spirited discussion about motherhood, friendship, family, and life in the public eye. I'm just not with the fakery anymore.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
There's a fakery bakery around here.
Podcast Host 1 (Kale Lowry)
Here's Kaylin. Lindsay.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
So I'm back with another episode with Zach. Welcome back.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Thank you.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
We're in person this time. But I can'. See anything but your head.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Shut up. I can't see.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
I got my camo pants on. He has this camo hoodie on.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
We're going hunting after this.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
We for sure. On my. On my acres in Smyrna, we're gonna go. Is it even hunting season?
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
It can be.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
Today.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Today. Yeah. Yeah.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
Okay. First of all, Zach convinced me to try watching Love Island.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
What do you think?
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
The fact that you tried to have me skip over that cringy end intro was the. Like, I needed that.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Yeah.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
Why would they have them dancing like that?
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
It's horrible.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
No, why would they do that?
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
So they do it every season.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
Why?
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
I don't know. And everyone's saying, like, it's like, worse this year. I think, like, the sing, the. The lip syncing and dancing is worse this season.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
If any production company told me that that is something that I had to do, I would Immediately pull out of the contract. I. I did marriage boot camp, teen mom, 16 and pregnant. Some other, like, talk shows. If they ever in their whole lives said that I was required to do that, it would be a hard no. And then I texted the. So I had said on that episode of Coffee Combos that we were going to cover Love Island. And so my book club, the girls texted me and they said, kale, if you're going to commit to Love island, it comes on every night this week. Who has the time?
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
You're going to have to make time.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
9pm so she said season six was the best ever. Season seven was all drama. This season. I have too many thoughts. I don't have too many thoughts yet other than I'm too old because they all look like teenagers. The first two girls that come on their intro are 23 and 24 years old. They are 10 years younger than me. I don't have anything in common. And Kenzie immediately irked my soul.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Thank you. I told everyone I hate Ken.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
No, I hate her. As soon as I saw her, I was like, oh, not, like, very pretty.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
The second I'm allowed to vote her off.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
Oh, you vote?
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Yeah.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
Oh, there's a voting situation.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
The. You have to download the live island app and.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
An app.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Yeah. And then every episode. Well, not every episode, but when they tell you you can vote, you can match people, you can sabotage them if you want.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
I love so much. I love. Oh, my God. Hold on. What is her name? Melanie.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Wait, hold on. I have everyone.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
Melanie. She's Dominicana.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Yes.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
She's from. Originally from Philly. Love her.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Love Melanie.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
Love her so much. And then badass Bea.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Yeah, I'll call her Bea.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
And she's a para. A para Olympian bronze medalist. Like, first of all, I couldn't do that on a good day with both legs.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
I could have five legs. And I'm not doing that.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
Facts. Like, I barely made it through a CrossFit workout, but she's incredible.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Yeah.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
And then there was Sean gave me the ick so bad. He's from, like, the last place that he's from Pennsylvania. He. I saw, like, the Lehigh Val Valley, which is where me and Iker from. And he's a. He was a cop there, but he was let go from his job.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Why wait? Do you have tea on that?
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
It was an article that came out. I saw the article before we decided to cover it. So it says a police officer left to be on Love Island. Officials are not happy. Pennsylvania mayor criticizes Love Island USA contestant Sean for quitting police job to join reality show. So he. He, I guess quit to be on this reality show, which.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Well, so did Trinity. She said that she quit her. Well, she worked at a hardware store, but she said she quit her hardware store job for this, which I would. I would have.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
Sean gave me the ick. Sean was giving. Like, Sean gets on this TV screen and talks about he was in a relationship with for 10 years and they broke up. Like, what the were you doing? Yeah, what were you doing? He gives me this.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
I think I thought that Sean was one of the hotter guys.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
He's cute, but he's definitely a cornball. Yeah, I love Melanie. Kenzie was okay.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
No, you said you hated Kenzie.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
No, no, I'm. I'm wrong. Not Kenzie. Who was the girl that walked into the entire situation with Kenzie?
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Anaya.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
Anaya. Yeah, Anaya's cool. I love. But I like Melanie more than her. And then, yeah, Bea is cool, but I didn't get to watch all of it. Seven kids. And so I was just kind of like.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
You didn't watch the guys come in?
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
No, I only just saw like, oh, I saw the guy from London. I saw Sean. I saw the guy that walked in with Sean and he was definitely hot.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Oh, Casey. Yeah, but I think he's your type.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
I don't like traditionally good looking men because they are the ones that are the boys and they're the ones that all the girls want. And that's why my baby dads are all ugly. Because I want men that people don't want. Do you know what I mean? And then it also fails me. So it's just. It's all a hot mess.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Wait, so what did you think about Bryce?
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
No, I never saw him.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Okay, well, he said he's a model.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
No, he's not.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
And he said that he models for Calvin Klein.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
No, he doesn't. So what did Calvin Klein say about that? They did not approve that for his PR statement.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
I don't think they. They commented on that.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
Him getting a brand deal one time is not him as a Calvin Klein mile model. Yeah, he's not cute.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
I wish you saw his. Wait, should we. Can we pull up his, like, because I want you to see his personality. Like.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
Wait, didn't you tell me? Did you tell me or did someone tell me that they're like having everybody on the lockdown for social media this season so that there's no spoilers and people are so mean? Yeah, we're being mean.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Yeah.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
So sorry about that.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Last year, all the other Seasons, they were allowed to have, like, a friend run their social media while it's on. Like, while they're on the island, they would have someone, like, kind of managing it.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
So are they on social media now that it's airing or.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
No.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
So how long can they come back? Like, until they can come back?
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Well, they're still on the island right now.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
Wait, what?
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
It's real time.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
It's real time.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
I think it's like a day or two delay that we're seeing it. So that's why you can vote people off.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
No. Yeah.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
See, that changes things. You feel involved when it's.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
That's why it's every day. Yeah. Oh, my God.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Yeah. So I love the. The what's it called? I love the structure of this show versus other reality shows because you really feel involved and, like, included in everything.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
Yeah.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Where it's not just, like, a storyline that was, like, concocted over months and months. It's like, actually happening so they can't, like, with it too much.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
See, I love and appreciate that. One of the girls from my book club. Hold on. First I said, Sean gives me the ick. She said, hold on. They had a guy. Because I was talking about the intros. Like, why do they have them dancing like that? And Nicole was like, they had a guy, season six, swinging his suitcase in circles on train tracks. Why did. Why are they doing that? And it's five minutes long. It is the longest intro of all time.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
That's why I told you to start at 5 minutes and 10 seconds.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
And the show is so long because I was like, oh, I'll just put it on this morning right before we record. And I click, like, the okay button to pause it. And it was like an hour and 45 minutes.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Last night's episode was only an hour.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
Okay, so maybe because this is like the intro of everyone, it was extra long. Okay. And then I didn't get to this part, but the girls in my group chat were set. Said, we're saying the kissing is giving me the ick. Why is there so much tongue? Why are we leading with tongue first? Who kisses like that? What is the T. What happened?
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
From the chin up, who's kissing? Wait, what was his name? The. The. Oh, my God. Gabriel. He came in as. Oh, my God. I keep drawing a blank. A bombshell. So. So every. Every, like, day or two, they have hot bombshells come in. New people get added, and they come in during the recoupling, and they come in basically, like, to stir shit up. So if you Think that you're, like, you're matching with someone. They bring in someone 10 times hotter.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
Wait, and they're not part of the cast?
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
No, they end up being part of the cast. Yeah. So Gabriel came in last night and he stole two of the girls and made out with them from, like, the neck.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
He was together, like, all three of them.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Not at the same time, but in back to back.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
Is he cute?
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Really cute. Wait, let me pull this up. Hold on.
Love Island Commentator
Gabriel from Love island usa.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
Oh, he's fine.
Love Island Commentator
Moved from the show. Gabriel is now the second castmate to be removed from the Love Island USA lineup after producers found out some unknown controversies about him. This will also help even out the numbers in the villa. After Visana's villa Now, fans already assumed time out.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
Well, what is the controversial.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
I don't know, because he was on last night, so he hasn't been.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
Wait, so they removed him in real time?
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Allegedly. According to that video, Casey is fine.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
Sincere love. That name that was on my baby name list for Rio, I think it was.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
I love that name.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
And then someone told me how popular it was, which is a goddamn lie because I've never heard anyone else say it. Kenzie is stunning, but I can't get behind her. How's Trinity?
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Do we like her?
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Yes.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
What about this guy? Is his name Zach?
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Yeah, he's. He's from London, and his brother was on last season. His brother's name was Charlie.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
I thought the other guy was from London. I remember the London guy. Hold on.
Love Island Commentator
She was going on behind the scenes Because Love Island USA official posted all of the intro videos for 10 of the castmates except Gabriel and Basanna, with fans even asking in the comment section, where is Gabriel's intro? He's out. Why? He wasn't officially fired like, Basanna was
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
for her videos, but fans who's Vasana
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
was that last year?
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
Do you think that people lie about being in, like, say that they're not in a relationship to apply for this and then they do it?
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Yes. I feel like that has happened. I'm trying to think. I've only watched season six and seven, so. But I know there's a lot of, like, OG fans from the very beginning. And then they also have Love Island UK and there's like, 10 seasons of that. So this has been going along for a long time.
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Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
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Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
And every year when summer hits, I
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Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
The guy from London is on Love Island USA. Yeah, but there's one because I think
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
he lives in LA.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
Oh, okay. Fair.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Yeah.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
I'll tell you what, somebody that's not from the US is Harry Jowsey.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Love him.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
Did you see him?
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Just on his podcast.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
Is he from Love Island?
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
No, he's from Perfect Match.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
What's that?
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
It's a Netflix show, I think. But that was the reality show he was on.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
He's six foot five.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
I know.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
Like, I wouldn't even have been mad if my boyfriend was like, yeah, he's fine, because I. And he's not my type. Yeah, he's never gonna ask for me to come back on this podcast after I hear. After he.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
No, I love him.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
No, he's so nice in person. And I texted him after, like, when I got back from la, and I think it was like, hey, like, you need to have my friend Matt on your podcast or go do Farm chores with him or he texted me back. And, you know, people in this industry do not text back. Which brings me to my next point that I wanted to say to you was me holding this freaking mic makes me feel like Tana.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Why?
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
You have a story about Tana?
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
I do.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
Tell it. We're calling you out.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
So I think it was like, 2019.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
Okay.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
I was supposed to go glam her in LA and her assistant at the time, Natalie, I found her assistant's email and I emailed her and I was like, I want a glam.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
This was like, shortly after 12 flies in here. And I'm so sorry, it stinks in here. Oh, I did have to. In a cup. I'll tell that story in a minute.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Bye. So I found Natalie's. In Natalie's email, her business email. I emailed her saying, I want a glam Tana. And I was like, I just want to. Like, I just wanted to have. To have the opportunity. And that's kind of how I met you. Yeah, it was just like, that one little opportunity that turned into, like, working together for a long time. So I was offering to do it for free just to get out there, and Natalie emailed me back saying that she was down and she would love to have me. So we set up a date. I booked a flight, I flew to California. And she was emailing me all the way up until the day, saying, like. I was like, are we so good for tomorrow? I'm about to board my flight. And she's like, yeah, we're so good. Can't wait to see you. She's like, I'll send you the address in the morning because it'll either be at the house or at the studio. So I was like, okay, cool. So I didn't have an address, so I was staying with my friend. And that whole day, no one ever replied, so they ghosted me completely.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
You booked a flight?
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Yeah. And then at the end of the day, Natalie emailed me back and said, I'm so sorry, we had a crazy day. And that was it.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
That was the.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
That was it.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
Did you respond?
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Yeah, I just said, like, okay, well, I'm here for one more day. And they never replied. So maybe one day.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
And you're. You would forgive. You forgave her?
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
I love her. I don't think she. She could kill me. I don't care. No, because it wasn't her. And like, you, we've all had not good assistance.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
So wait, what if someone from Love island asked you to do their makeup? What if we get you hired to do glam on set. Or do you think they find local
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
people so they don't glam the cast?
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
The cast glams themselves.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
They have a whole glam room, and they get. They do their makeup every single day. There's some glam girls on that show.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
Where was this for Teen Mom? I'm so pissed. We were supposed to. So I'm going to do my best to keep up with it. Or I might have to, like, watch it not in real time because I just don't have it. I have to usually choose between books and. Or, like, adaptations and tv. Like, I don't have. I can't do both.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
This goes until, like, the end of July, so.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
Oh. So I have time to catch up because I'm gonna be on a lot of planes and lot of cars coming up here starting next week, so. Love Island. I was supposed to watch the Alex Murdo thing. Did you end up finishing it?
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
I. It was only 30 minutes.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
Okay, so update me, because I didn't get a chance to watch it.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Okay. So did you know about the trial? Like, yeah.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
And I read the book, and I had a woman named Valerie on my podcast who was, like, in the courtrooms in real time. I need to catch up with her and see if she would want to do another episode because she wrote a whole book on it. The book is called the Devil at His Elbow, and it's by Val Valerie Bor. And she previously worked for, like, some really big places. And I had her on the podcast to talk about the case. It's. It's a really good book. And so I had her on to discuss the entire case. She's so fantastic. What was the whole. So getting unconvicted?
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
No. So the. The documentary was called Insta Docs, and it was about. The documentary was focusing on the. Hold on. I have the title of her in my. I don't want to say the wrong thing. So the documentary was about the clerk of court named Becky Hill, and she, I guess, was trying to sway the jury their opinion, and she was, like, meeting with that. Which I. You're not allowed to do. So she was meeting with him and being like, just focus on his body language and, like, really listen to what he's saying in this next part. So I think she was. Was trying to sway the jury's opinion, and one of the juror. How do you say that with jurors? Yeah, one of them stepped forward and said something about that. She was talking to them, and then she magically got kicked off the jury for a conflict of interest. And they removed her in the middle of the court, the court hearing. And then she ended up testifying against Becky Hill, saying that. Or. I think. I think Alex. Alex Murt. Oh, my God. What is this?
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
It's either Alec or Alex. It's been pronounced differently throughout. So many different.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
So then I think his defense attorney ended up trying to have a trial against Becky Hill because it could have really affected the case. So that's basically what the whole documentary
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
was about, getting retried.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
But they. He got denied.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
So he's not getting retried.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
No, he still is. He's in there for life still.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
Okay. I was under a completely false impression then. I thought that he basically. They were saying that he didn't do it and he was getting retried because they were framing him is what.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Yeah, I think that's what they were trying to get at. And. But Becky Hill ended up. She pleaded guilty to four felony counts of misconduct in office and obstruction to justice and was sentenced to three years probation.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
That's it.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Yeah.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
I don't know if you have found this to be true too, with your. Do you watch a lot of true Crime?
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
I wouldn't say a lot.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
Okay. I. I've scaled back over the years because I have to treat, like I said, choose between, like books or watching stuff. But I used to watch my entire life was true crime. And I've noticed that a lot of cases. And I'm not saying it doesn't happen in the north, but I definitely think that there's more corruption in the South.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Yeah.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
At least from what I can see, like, with the more high profile, like, really high media coverage cases, I do feel like there's a lot more corruption in the higher profile southern cases.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Maybe there's just a lot more going on down south.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
Maybe. But I'm like, how sad.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Yeah.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
But that she got three years probation. She won't even go to jail. She won't even see the inside of a sell.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Nope.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
That better not happen to.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
And she made a book about the whole thing and went on a book tour.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
Of course she did.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Yeah.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
She had to profit off of it really quick and then tell her probation officer that she has to work to make money to pay her fees and her fines, period.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
You said you in a cup. I want to circle back to that. What happened?
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
Okay. So I went through. I'm going through. Well, I already did. So I. Life insurance is a thing. I have life insurance. My kids have life insurance. And I wanted to get A bigger policy because I have a morbid mind. So I'm like, in case anything happens, need this bigger policy. But they wouldn't cover me unless I went to see a gastroenterologist, because I have problem where I just myself in public. Thankfully, it's never happened in a store. It's usually on the side of the road. It's truly diabolical. So I didn't go. Basically didn't finish my appointments. Right. Is that basically what happened? So I start the process of going on my own before the insurance, but then I never followed up because I stopped myself. So I was like, this is a miracle.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Yeah.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
And. And then I start myself again, but I don't really tell anyone, right. And go to get insurance, and they see, I guess, in some kind of medical chart that I had seen a gastroenterologist and never followed up because I stopped myself. And then they said that they wouldn't cover me unless I go back. So you want to test me for celiac disease, which apparently is a blood test. So why I'm in a cup, I have no idea. Not only is it one cup.
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Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
The cups are in the fridge right now. Oh, I had to drop them off tomorrow morning.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Okay.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
So.
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Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Okay.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
One has to be frozen, and the four. The four other ones. Two are in liquid and two are not. And you have to have X amount of. In the cup. Okay. But here's the kicker. They give you basically, like. Like a potty training catcher. So you, like, sit like old people. You know, old people have those things. You have to sit on that, in that. And then you have to use rubber gloves and the scoopers that are inside these cups to.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
And how humbling was that?
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
No, because the way that I like, try to make jokes about it to make myself feel better, and I'm never will. And so I go to this appointment, get my blood taken, and then she's like, I have a goodie bag for you, which was all of the supplies, Right. And so I have a bathroom outside on the porch. And I. And Ike was like, do you want me to. Do you want me to bring it out there for you? And I was like, yes, please. All embarrassed. And he, like, stays in the bathroom, and I'm like, get out. Get the out and wait.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Do you with him in the bathroom?
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
No, no, I don't with him in the bathroom at all ever. Like, I just got comfortable telling him when I have to go to the bathroom.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Really?
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
Yeah.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
W. Okay. But you'll talk about it on the podcast.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
Yeah. But I was banking on the fact that he wasn't listening.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Got it.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
But then went. So when we first started dating, I wasn't myself anymore. I had been sober of myself for like six months. And then I started. It started happening again.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
A relapse?
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
Basically.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Yeah.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
So I had to tell him, okay, like you need to drive over that median to get me to a bathroom. And he was like, what? And I'm like, I myself. And he was like, kill. So anyways, he's, he's too deep into this relationship to break up with me now. So if you are looking for undergarments
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Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
There is a cup in the freezer and four more in the fridge. I do have to drop them off tomorrow morning. Okay. But that apparently is not to test for celiac, so I don't really know what that's about. I thought that was to test for celiac disease.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
So you don't know why?
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
No, I have no idea why I'm in a cup. No clue. Cool. So that's where we're at.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Keep us updated on that.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
Everyone's like, like this, we're turning this podcast off. They're like, we're done. But yeah, so that was. That's the experience with that.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Okay, cool.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
Yeah. How's everything going in your world?
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Going good.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
Not yourself?
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
No, I. I haven't myself ever. Like I told you last, never a shark. No, not that.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
Okay. Okay. What's it like to be God's favorite?
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
I'll let you know the second it happens. You'll be the first. I tell you, but it's not gonna happen.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
You're like, if it hasn't happened yet, it's not gonna happen.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
No.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
Okay.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
And you're not that much older than me.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
No, I'm not. How old are you? 29.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Yeah.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
And I'm 34.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Yeah.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
You know what it is? I think it's the amount of children that I've had. Instead of my vagina getting loose, my got loose. That's what I. That's my theory. I don't know if that's accurate, but
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
let's look into that.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
They did, I think Trisha, they told me I need to go to pt.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Trisha, Paytas said that she had her, her. Her vagina and her tightened in surgery.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
Yeah, I would totally do that. I want to do. They told me I do need to do pelvic. Not pelvic floor therapy, but essentially. But for my ass. Like that's what they told me.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Okay.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
So there is like a thing for it.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
But she did it before she had kids.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
Oh, oh, like for fun?
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Yeah. Well, because she said on the podcast that. She said on a podcast that she put a candlestick up her ass.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
Why?
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
A guy told her to.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
For fun was.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Yeah.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
Did she have only fans?
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
This was before only fans, but she did have only fans.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
Did she?
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Yeah.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
With explicit content.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Yeah.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
Really?
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
During COVID And it made her a lot of money. That's how she bought her house. And you. You were at the house?
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
Oh, yeah. I did go to her house. I love Trisha. I think she's so great.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
I'm obsessed with Trisha.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
Love her. Definitely love her. But. And her and Tana now have a podcast together, which is your dream.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Yeah.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
Yep.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
My dream.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
I feel like you sent me other things. I didn't get to watch Worst X Ever. I didn't get to watch that yet. I watched the second episode with Wade.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
I think that's the first episode.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
Oh, of the second season? Yeah. Okay. Did you watch it?
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Yeah.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
Can we talk about it?
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Yeah. So did you watch 90 Day Fiance?
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
Which season?
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
I don't know.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
I've seen. I've seen a few.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Because on episode two of season two of Worst X Ever, it's. It's Jeffrey from 90 Day Fiance. He's the worst ex ever.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
Imagine. They definitely on there.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Okay, so do you want to talk about the first episode with Wade? Because that's the one you saw.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
That's the only one I've seen. I didn't. I thought that was episode two, but I guess that makes sense. Season two.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
So, okay, so what was your first impression of Wade?
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
He's fine as. Until he opens his mouth. Wait, so was Wade on drugs or was he mentally ill or both?
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Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
No, I think he was both.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
Okay.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Yeah. Because I think he was stealing money to buy drugs from his girlfriends.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
He really picked. So the thing about Wade, it's Worst X Ever. I'm pretty sure it's on Netflix.
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Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
Netflix. Wade was all over social media.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Yeah.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
I had seen him on social media, but did not realize what he was on social media. Like, I never looked into it. I had seen him, but I just kept scrolling kind of deal.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
They called him Deadpool Killer.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
Deadpool Killer.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Yeah.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
And I did not realize he killed people. And when you watch that episode of Worst X Ever, they don't get to the him killing people and he kills them back to back at the very, very, very end. So you think it's just the Worst X. Right. He preys on vulnerable women. And by vulnerable, I mean maybe women who would be easily swayed by this Tall, they think, I think they said he's like six, five or six. Six tall. He's very good looking with his teeth in. What?
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
No, go ahead.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
No, because I want you to watch it back when you get home.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Yeah, I didn't notice the, the tooth go situation.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
See if it comes up on Google. And so he's preying on these women who maybe are a little bit vulnerable for whatever reasons that may be. So he steals puppies to sell.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Yeah.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
To essentially go buy drugs. He steals some. One of his girlfriend's car. He's meeting these women on social media, apps, cups and then convincing them to let him live with them right away. And that's why I say like vulnerable women who probably have not gotten attention from like a good looking six foot five.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Yes.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
Person.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
And they overlook all the red flags. They're so. They feel so lucky to have somebody
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
like him and so he bamboozles them. And the one poor girl, I think it was like the second girl that they showed. Not that the first one, the first one also suffered a lot by at the hands of Wade, but the second one specifically like clearly doesn't have like a good stable home life because she's then goes to live with her sister in another part of the state. He convinces her to let him move in with her that day.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Yeah, I get it. I think there was on episode, on episode four, you didn't get that far, but they had. It was a similar situation where he forced. Her name was Karen and the guy's name was Scott. He forced Karen to move in. Like he basically started getting his mail directed to her address without her knowing. And then she came home from work and this was like a month into them dating and he was just there and he's like, I moved in by the way. And she's like, oh no, I don't, I don't think you should move in. He's like, well my mail's been coming here for a month, so you can't kick me out.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
And at that point it's squatters, right?
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Yeah.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
Here in Delaware I think it's like 14 days or something like that. It might be a couple days off, I'd have to look it up. But I think in Delaware if you have mail and you've been staying somewhere for 14 days, you automatically get squatters rights. And Delaware is like a four tenant state.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
What does that mean?
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
Meaning like you would have to go through like an entire year process of like evicting someone. So do you remember the house that I was living at When I first. First met you, like the tan one that. That house I had rented out when I was building this one, when I. Or right before I was building this one, I was like, I'll just keep it because it was almost paid off. Or it was paid off. I don't remember. And then I'll just rent that one out and I'll move to Middletown and then I'll build this. Whatever. I ended up deciding, no sense in paying this big ass mortgage in this big ass house. I'll go back to that house while this one. Because that. That one was like twelve hundred dollars a month while this is being built. So I needed her to leave. Well, she didn't want to leave because she was like, my. My son only has like a year left of school or two years left of school or something like that. Don't really know what the full circumstances were. She refused to pay rent the last three months, and there was nothing I could do about it because of the squatters rights and the tenants rights here in Delaware. So at that point, I just cut my losses for the three months or four months and was done with it.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Wow. Because it would cost more to fight her.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
Yeah. It wasn't even. And I think she worked for an attorney at that time.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
She knew.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
So she knew what her rights were and stuff, so. And she destroyed the pool. I had to get the pool completely redone because she opened it and never cleaned it. It turned. It was literally black from whatever was in there. I had to redo the whole thing. That cost me over five grand or around five grand.
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Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
But yeah, so going back to the Wade thing, he was so good at manipulating. I really thought, okay, maybe he just was like up to that first girl. He with every girl. What was the killing rampage?
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
I think that was when he was on drugs. I think at that point he was like on a full drug rampage.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
But the last two. The. Or the two girls that he killed, he didn't even know them.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Yeah. So I think he was like. So I don't know if the drugs triggered a mental like.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
Or the other way around.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Yeah. A combination of the mental issues and the drugs, I think sent him over the edge. And. Because at first he was just like a horrible manipulator and a liar to all of his exes. But he wasn't killing them.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
Right.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
So.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
But he was. He got abusive with them.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Yeah.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
And then was it his adoptive dad or his real dad that he called and was like, I just killed. I just killed a. I think that
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
was his real dad, if one of
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
my kids came to me, I would be the same way as that. Like, I have to turn you in. Like, I love you because you're my child. But, like, that is not. You don't brag about killing somebody. And these women had, like, families.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Yeah.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
And you just kill them and just. And he stole the girlfriend's car. Did.
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Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
Do you remember the scene, the part where the one girl was talking about how she, like, he, like, tied her up and shoved her in the back seat of the car and was. She was on the floor in the back seat. Yeah.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
And he was buying drugs with her in the back seat and was like, shut up. Yeah.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
Could you imagine?
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
What would you do? Well, I can't imagine. I was kidnapped, but did you.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
Can you remind people of that story? I don't think Rebecca's ever heard it.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
That was like the. The first episode we did on.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
Okay, let's bring it back. Let's bring it back. Let's bring it back.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
So, yeah, I was. I was robbed at gunpoint, and they put me in the back seat of my car with a gun to my head, and they stole my car and robbed gas stations with my car, and then they drained my bank account.
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And it's not just about clothing. Right.
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Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
wait, but did you ever get. I don't. Like, I remember, obviously, that that happened to you, but I don't remember the details. Did they ever think it was you?
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
No.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
Because it was your car?
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
No, because they. I mean, they had footage of the guys going into the. The gas station.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
Were you in the back?
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Yeah, they had a guy sitting in the car with me. One guy stayed in the car with me, and one guy ran in and robbed the gas station.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
Did they take your money?
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Yeah, they did.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
Did you ever get it back? Like the bank?
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Yeah, the bank gave it back.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
What bank was that?
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
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Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
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Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Yeah, Give me more money. Yeah, they. They were. They were helpful through the whole thing. And because they had ATM footage, which the. The camera footage from the ATM that caught them standing next to me withdrawing the money from the atm, they used that, like, on the news to, like, catch the guy.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
You were on the news?
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
I wasn't, but they cropped me out of the picture and they used the guy next to me. They used that picture.
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Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
Did you ever see them again?
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
No, because I didn't go to court for it because it was when I was working at Sephora in a mall. So I didn't want to remind them, like, their friends what I looked like, because I was just picturing, like, if I go and testify against them, I'm just reminding everyone of what my face looks like. And then if they see me, if they, like, catch me walking through this, the parking garage in the mall, like, I just don't want to remind people what I look like. And they'll be like, that's the guy that put my friend in jail or put my brother in jail or whatever.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
You put yourself in jail?
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Yeah. So I just didn't want to remind everyone what it looked like, so I just refused to do they not need
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
you to testify too. Because they had enough evidence.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
They. So they couldn't. They didn't get jail time for it. They got, they got house arrest.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
Why?
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Because I wouldn't testify. They begged me to testify and I refused because I was so scared.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
I mean, I don't blame you.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Yeah, I was like, if I, if I wasn't like out and about, I probably would have done it. But I was like working every day at the mall and like going to clients houses all the time. So I just didn't want to like put myself out there for it. Which is why I didn't do anything like in the news for. And you know, I'll hop on a news camera any day. But not for that.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
Not for that. Because you're like, I don't want them coming after me.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Yeah. I just didn't want to like remind people what I looked like.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
So I them. Cuz they could have retal. Retaliated. You know what I always find so fascinating though is like when you see one or like more than one person committing a crime, like you have to be so up to do it in the first place, but to find other people that are willing to participate or have the same ideas like that when there's multiple people or murder or like rape or anything like that, like how do you express to somebody in your
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
general come up in conversation and without
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
the other person thinking you're absolutely insane.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Yeah.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
Because I'll tell you right now, like if someone asked me to help them bury a body, I'm not doing it. Like actually I'm reporting you, so don't even tell me you're doing it.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Yeah.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
Do you know what I mean?
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
I think you talk enough that I don't think anyone would ever.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
But I also forget a lot.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Yeah.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
So it's like. Well, I could. Because I forgot that you were robbed at gunpoint until you reminded me. Also the hair thing or the makeup and stuff. Like my friend text me this morning and was like, oh, good intro on the podcast. And I go, oh, what did I say? And she goes, you don't remember? I said, once it comes out of my mouth, I have no clue. So I. You could tell me. Certain secrets won't remember.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Yeah.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
Other secrets. I will come on this podcast.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Yeah.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
And I will share. I won't say who, but you know what I mean. Anyway, that's crazy. I hope that nobody ever comes across a Wade. Wade really lost his. He really lost his good looks and everything in prison. But did you know that you can smuggle Drugs into prisons.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Even now without. I mean.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
Yeah. One of my good friends works at the man male prison right here. You know, Delaware only has prisons. We don't have jails.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Really?
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
No, we have no county jails. We have real, like, state prisons.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Wow.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
So, like, don't commit a crime here because you won't go to the county.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
You should tell yourself that
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
you don't live here. I would love to go into prisons and interview inmates. I would love. I just. The psychology behind all of it is so fascinating to me.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Yeah. Well, let's go interview Kenzie Mackenzie in the crash.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
Oh, her. We're not giving her any more attention.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
No.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
If she wanted Kim Kardashian to come to her rescue, well, guess what? The trailer park version is coming for you. I'm coming.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Wait, that should be your thing. Because Kim Kardashian.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
Because Kim Kardashian is, what, four girls? Five girls, one boy. I have the opposite.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Yeah.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
So we are the white trash version. Right. Like, I will never have Kim Kardashian money. I will never have Kim Kardashian influence. But I can come into the prison and interview people.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Yeah.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
And I will give you a trailer park edit.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Okay.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
Do you know what I mean?
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Yeah, I see it.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
Have you been following the discourse online about, like. Like, Mackenzie Shurilla's dad?
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Yes.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
They all piss me off. They should all be in jail.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Yeah.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
Warm milk. You're making your daughter warm milk?
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
That's disgusting.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
Like, just throw some goat milk in there. You know what I mean? Like, what are we just. What are we doing?
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
No, that. It's not milk, I can tell you that.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
What is it?
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
I think it's code for something else.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
Really? What does Urban Dictionary say?
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Oh, I don't know. Yeah, well, no, I think they have, like. Because everyone's saying, like, they have. Her and her mom are speaking in code on the phone.
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Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Yeah. So it's like, what is. What is warm milk? Like, what does that actually mean?
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
But weren't those, like, regular, everyday texts or something?
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Yeah.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
You're gonna speak on code on a regular everyday text to your dad?
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Maybe. I don't know. To me, it was giving, like, creepy vibes.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
Yeah.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
To ask your dad to come in and be quiet for warm milk.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
I'll tell you what. If one of my kids can tells me to be quiet coming into my own house, but you can go to
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
your dad's, I took that as like. She wasn't saying, like, be quiet or I'm. You're gonna piss me off. It Was like, be quiet so no one else hears you. Like, that's how I read it. So that's why I think it's something creepy.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
And he's a Christian. He was a Christian school teacher. Is insane. Oh, I had Elliot watch something too. The nightmare upstairs. I had him watch that. We already talked about that. Yeah, I'm trying to think what else we could talk about. That's. What else did you put in that sheet? Oh, Elliot, just text me.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
No, you can read foul play.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
Oh, yeah, okay. Oh, we. I have a couple too. All right, so this foul play says, my ex and I dated throughout high school four years, and one day he just started acting strange. Then finally just stopped responding to my texts and calls. I get on Facebook and see pictures of him on a cruise with another girl we went to school with.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Sounds familiar.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
Trifling. Oh, that one went way over my head.
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Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
So I drove to his house, keyed his truck, smoked a pack of cigarettes in the truck and put them all out in the seats. He was allergic to the smoke. Cut up all our pictures and threw them in the truck as well. This was before ring camera, so he couldn't do anything about it. Then I drove to her house. Not sure how I found out where she lived, but I put a tampon in her gas tank. So every time she pressed the gas, the tampon clogged up the system and it would just shut off. She had to get a new car. A tampon in the gas tank is new. Was it used?
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Well, I mean, it was a guy that did it, right? That put it in the gas tank?
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
No, it was a girl.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Oh, oh, oh, oh.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
The woman went to the boyfriend, the boyfriend now ex boyfriend. And then the. The girls. First of all, you have to be so ballsy at that point. Just break up. Yeah, just say, hey, I'm not doing this. And block them because at least you broke up with them. So, one, you're a better person than just cheating. But two, like, she's gonna find out anyway, and it's gonna be way more devastating. Like, just break up.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Yeah.
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Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
Have you ever ghosted someone you were dating?
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
No. I'm always ghosted.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
Are you serious?
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Well, not anymore.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
Thank God. Yeah, but thank Rihanna. I don't think I've ever ghosted anyone while we were dating, but I will say that I did date someone that I regularly tried to break up with. Actually, two people that I regularly tried to break up with.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Yeah.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
And they weren't taking no for an answer. They were not taking, it's over. Finally. The day before my birthday, 2020, within the last six years. I don't know. Finally I'm like, hey, like, I can't do this with you anymore. I sent this long thing, like, you're such a good person. Like, whatever, whatever, whatever. Finally was like. He was like, I know your heart hasn't been in this for a long time. And it's like, I've only tried breaking up with you 12 times.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Oh, I know who you're talking about.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
Yep.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Yeah. Yeah.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
Okay. The next one says, this guy I dated was very attractive. Like, not even kidding. GQ model looking, picturesque body and all. I was 21. He said he was 24. Red flag. He said he was 24 is crazy. And it was great. We'd go out all the time. He traveled for work. As a videographer, should I be concerned about ice.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Wait, are the quotes in it?
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
Yes.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Okay.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
Videographer. Well, one day my good friend comes over to me and was like, bro, I have to show you something, and you're not gonna like it. It was a video on a gay porn site of my current boyfriend in the shower with two other men going to town, if you know what I mean. Come to find out he was a gay porn star, like, famous in the gay community. I also found out he was actually 20 with a fake ID. And this. This was after eight months of dating. So not only was he younger than me, the whole time, he was shooting gay porn every time he left for work. And I had absolutely. Needless to say, the next time he left for work, I packed up my stuff and left asap. Okay, you're gay, so I feel like I can ask you this. Number one. Wait, number.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Number one, why did the. How did the friend stumble across.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
That's what. That's what my number one was. Was the friend gay?
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Yeah. Ask who found it.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
But, like, it's. It's not saying that it's a gay or straight friend, so it's possible that that friend would be gay.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Okay.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
Like, if you came to me and told me that my partner, I'd be like, oh, like, that makes sense. Because if you're on a gay site, like, okay, cool, cool. Do you think that a gay porn star could do gay for porn and not gay in real life? No, I also feel that way.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
I don't think so.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
I also.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Because you have to. I think.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
Happy Pride, everyone. Happy Pride Month.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
I think a guy has to be somewhat attracted to perform sex because he has to be, like, hard.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
Right?
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
So, like, but what.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
Like, what about Viagra maybe?
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
No, you wouldn't do it. You just wouldn't do it if you were 100 straight. I don't think so. There has to be. But I think sexuality is a spectrum. And I think even if you're, like, 1% gay, then you're gay. Yeah. Well, no. Well, I think you have to be, like, at least 1% into guys to have sex with a guy. Even if it's for money. Because if you're, like, 100 straight, you're not doing it.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
Yes.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Even if. No matter how much money. So I think you have to be a little bit on the spectrum.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
You can say that. I can't say that. That is how I feel. But I also. I don't want to get canceled. So, like, that's how I feel, but I can't really say that.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Maybe say. Say it in July, when Pride Month's.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
Yeah, say it in July. Yeah. That's so interesting to me because I think that's. That there are straight guys who are confident around gay men and can be friends with gay men. And I think I respect that so much.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
And I think that's confidence in your sexuality. You just know that you're fine.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
I actually, one of my girlfriends, her son is, for all intents and purpose, I don't know what his sexuality is because he's a kid. And I don't care. From what I know, I think he's straight. He reposted a video. And to me, especially when you're a teenager, accepting people for who they are, I think can be really tricky because maybe you don't have a problem with gay people, but you. There's peer pressure and there's, like, you don't want to be made fun of or whatever. And from what I know, this kid is a teenager, he's straight, and he reposted Elliot's video about being gay. And I thanked his mom.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Yeah.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
And I was like. Like, I really appreciated that because I don't think that Elliot really gets, like, maybe he does get talked about. I don't know. They. People certainly aren't going to talk to me about it. You know what I mean? But if people ever talk about him, like, he does have, like, straight allies in his corner, and I really appreciate that. And I was like, I literally saw his mom that pick up, and I was like, thank you for that. Like, that is so appreciated. Yeah. Because it's tricky, I think, for straight kids. Like, they maybe don't have a problem with it, but the other kids that are saying stuff, you know what I mean?
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Yeah. And I think it helps seeing, like,
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
another straight kid support someone. Even if you don't align sexually, you don't have to. You can still, like, coexist and be fine and be friendly and all the things. But I support straight people, too. Sometimes they're annoying. Yeah, sometimes. But. Well, as long as they're not, like, licking from here to here on Love Island, I think it's okay.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Yeah.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
Is there any gays on Love Island?
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
No, because they have to match.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
What about bisexual?
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
There might be. I don't know if there's been any openly by people on.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
That would be so fun. Yeah, that would be so fun. Well, anyway, that's all that we have for this week. I need to go tend to my toddlers and I. Where can people find you on social.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
On Instagram, at Z Boner Underscore Makeup.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
C Boner.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Yep.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
Happy pride, everyone. See ya.
Podcast Guest/Co-host (Z Boner)
Bye.
Podcast Host 2 (Lindsay Chrisley)
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In this lively episode, Kail Lowry and Lindsie Chrisley are joined by recurring guest Z Boner for a candid, seriously entertaining ride through reality TV recaps, jaw-dropping true crime, personal misadventures, and raw confessions. The trio dive into the latest season of "Love Island USA," dissect Netflix’s “Worst Ex Ever,” swap stories about ghosting, squatters, and medical mishaps, and open up about boundaries, sexuality, and the challenges of life in the public eye and as parents. As always, their honest banter, wild side tangents, and signature humor are on full display.
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