Diddy Disappointment, Sickness Goes Around & a Spoiled Baby

Summary

COFFEE CONVOS w/ Kail Lowry & Lindsie Chrisley
Episode: "Diddy Disappointment, Sickness Goes Around & a Spoiled Baby"
Release Date: December 18, 2025

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Episode Overview

In this lively episode, Kail and Lindsie catch up on family updates, commiserate over kids’ illnesses, riff on pop culture (including a rant about the recent Diddy docuseries), navigate modern motherhood challenges, and deliver their signature mix of blunt advice and reality-TV humor. They also dish on food favorites, fast food inflation, and family car buying strategies, closing with an audience advice letter about “spoiled” babies and in-law boundary struggles.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Childhood Food Nostalgia and Fast Food Inflation (00:50–06:00, 40:17–42:13)

• Lindsie reminisces about her fondness for Hardee’s biscuits and compares regional fast food favorites, bringing up Hardee’s, Bojangles, Raising Canes, and Popeyes.
• Kail describes her meh reaction to Raising Canes.
• The hostesses dive into the “Grinch Meal” at McDonald’s and marvel at how fast food for two can cost $30 now (“There are certain restaurants I can go to and spend less on a country little dinner than I would be spending for a Big Mac and a 10 piece nugget.” — Lindsie, 41:18).
• Cost comparison: feeding Kail’s family at Chick-fil-A or McDonald’s can be $120 for 7–8 people.

Housework, Vacuums & Decluttering (04:53–06:09)

• Both Kail and Lindsie share their “chose violence” mindsets tackling deep house cleaning.
• Lindsie debates selling her Dysons because her cleaner prefers Sharks.

Sickness Going Around: Navigating Parenting in Flu & Virus Season (06:11–13:08)

• Kail recounts her kids (Lincoln, Lux, Creed) having flu A, and her militant disinfecting to protect the twins and Rio.
• Kail contemplates keeping her kids out of daycare due to hand, foot, and mouth disease, seeking Lindsie’s advice.
• Both recall traumatic experiences with hand, foot, and mouth and the confusion with molluscum contagiosum.
• “Hand, foot, and mouth has given me PTSD… I mean, the infection and sores all over—like, I have PTSD.” — Kail, 08:54
• Lindsie echoes the struggle to know when kids are truly better: “On roughly day three I thought I was on the mend… A couple hours later, it was like I got it all over again.” (12:41)

Pop Culture & TV Rants (16:47–25:43)

• Lindsie recommends “The Perfect Couple” on Netflix; Kail’s “unpopular opinion” is that the Diddy docuseries was underwhelming and missed all the deep, controversial rumors (no details on JLo, Jay-Z, parties, or trafficking allegations).
• “Everything that was in [the Diddy doc], we already knew. We knew what a shitty person he was… My unpopular opinion is that you could get the cliff notes on TikTok…” — Kail, 17:57
• Discussion on the power moves and pettiness of 50 Cent, who got the rights to the Diddy footage partly to make sure Diddy could watch it in prison.
• Ja Rule and 50 Cent pettiness: “Ja Rule… maybe shut the fuck up.” — Kail, 25:54

Kids, School & Homework (26:19–29:06)

• Lindsie laments her son’s “the grades haven’t updated” excuses; Kail admits to accidentally ruining Lincoln’s reading assignment grade (“I got him a 60. So that was definitely… I don’t even know how I fucked that up so bad.” — Kail, 28:09).
• School “all of the above” jokes and relatable parent–teacher moves.

Co-parenting, Exes & Boundaries (31:03–34:19)

• Lindsie narrates drama with ex-husband Will and their son Jackson—losing phone privileges, holiday parade/pub crawl confusion, and a rake-wielding standoff.

Parenting Approaches: Food Waste, Cooking, and Co-sleeping (34:32–40:40)

• Kail institutes a new Lowry household rule: kids who don’t eat their food must feed it to the pigs, or eat it for the next meal, to limit food waste (35:02).
• Kail is in her “cooking era,” making chicken cutlets, baked ziti, and homemade mac and cheese—seeking flavor perfection and recipe advice from Lindsie.
• Lindsie and Kail float the idea of doing cooking competition videos for Coffee Convos fans.

Audience Letter: “Spoiled” Babies and In-Law Dynamics (49:04–61:11)

Major Advice Segment

• A listener writes in about her mother-in-law waking the baby, wanting to hold her, and calling the newborn “spoiled.”
• Kail’s stance: “You cannot spoil a baby. It’s human nature to want to be held by your mother… Stop saying that, you cannot spoil a baby in that way.” (50:42)
• Lindsie and Kail both stress that family should respect boundaries; anecdotes about their own experiences with grandparent expectations.
• Discussion of older-generation mindsets, traditional shoe choices for babies, and differences in parenting/medical advice across generations.

Humorous Tangent: Mattress Store Fiasco (63:36–68:17)

• A fan foul-play story: making out and accidentally breaking a mattress in a Mattress Firm, followed by an epic fart in front of the salesperson.
• Kail’s fun mattress recommendations: “The two most comfortable beds in my house are Lincoln and Lux’s and they came from Amazon.” (66:30)

Parenting, Generational Change & Medical Anecdotes (58:27–62:21)

• More stories about baby shoes, old-school logic, and a laugh about whiskey as a doctor-recommended remedy for children.

Car Buying Advice & Teen Driving (70:30–73:11)

• Kail plans to buy a reliable, value-retaining car for her teen son, following Lindsie’s suggestion and discussing her purchase logic for “new” unused cars from prior model years.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “Everything that was in the docu series… we already knew… My unpopular opinion is you could get the cliff notes on TikTok.” – Kail, 17:57
• “Hand, foot, and mouth has given me PTSD… I mean the infection and sores all over—like, I have PTSD.” – Kail, 08:54
• “You cannot spoil a baby. It’s human nature to want to be held by your mother.” – Kail, 50:42
• “He looked at me and said, ‘You’ve made three meals. Relax.’” – Kail, on Lincoln’s reaction to her new cooking skills, 36:14
• “Not buying the mattress is wild work, after all that!” – Lindsie, 65:11

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 00:50–06:00 — Food nostalgia, Hardee’s vs Bojangles, vacuums, deep cleaning
• 06:11–13:08 — Flu panic, virus season, cleaning routines, sick kid strategies, hand foot & mouth
• 16:47–25:43 — TV recs (“Perfect Couple,” Diddy docuseries hot takes), 50 Cent/Ja Rule drama
• 26:19–29:06 — Kids making excuses about grades, parent–teacher chats
• 31:03–34:19 — Co-parenting, phone confiscation, family drama
• 35:02–40:40 — Food waste, new family rules, Kail’s cooking journey
• 49:04–61:11 — Listener advice: in-law oversteps, “spoiled baby” myth, holding boundaries
• 63:36–68:17 — Mattress Firm “foul play” story, mattress brand recs
• 70:30–73:11 — Buying a first car for a teen, car dealer logic

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Tone and Style

True to Kail and Lindsie’s style, the episode is blunt, meandering, and full of real-life anecdotes, zings, and authentic vulnerability mixed with plenty of humor about motherhood, relationships, and pop culture fails. Listeners get equal parts practical advice, nostalgia, and comic relief.

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Summary

“Diddy Disappointment, Sickness Goes Around & a Spoiled Baby” is a quintessential Coffee Convos episode—listeners are dropped into a swirl of mom chaos (sick kids, viral scares), sharp takes on pop culture, and the raw struggle to find balance amid messy realities. Kail and Lindsie are at their best giving each other, and their audience, practical support, a dose of snark, and the reminder that “you can’t spoil a baby,” no matter what grandma says. The show’s mix of uproarious stories (like the Mattress Firm debacle), real parenting dilemmas, and honest friendship makes it a perfect catch-up for fans and newcomers alike.

Transcript

[Kayl Lowery]

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[Kayl Lowery]

Receiving gifts is so weird. What do you say? Thank you.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

This is Coffee Convos with Kayl Lowery and Lindsay Chrisley. I really want you to be in your feels.

[Kayl Lowery]

Kale, that does not interest me whatsoever.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I feel very attacked by you. A spirited discussion about motherhood, friendship, family and life in the public eye. I'm just not with the fakery anymore.

[Kayl Lowery]

There's a fakery bakery around here.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Here's Kale and Lindsay. Good morning. Welcome to Coffee Combos podcast. What are we eating?

[Kayl Lowery]

Hardee's. It's my first time having.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Oh, wait, you've never had Hardee's before?

[Kayl Lowery]

I think I have, but not. It's been years I might have had. My friend Emily eats Hardee's a lot and I feel like I've tried it with her before.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Looks like you've got nuggets. And that's probably not what I would recommend to get from Hardee's. I grew up on Hardee's.

[Kayl Lowery]

Like, yeah, and Tennessee and Atlanta.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah. But we only have like one Hardee's around here and it's not very close to where I'm located. But when I tell you Hardee's biscuits are the best Biscuits that you can get anywhere. My grandparents used to. So my dad's parents, we would spend the night with them a lot. And then when they got up to go to work, they were factory workers, so they had to get up like super early in the morning and they would drop Kyle and I off to my other grandparents.

[Kayl Lowery]

But.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

But they would go through Hardee's and get us breakfast like every single morning. And it was like these little cinnamon biscuits that had like sweet stuff on the top, like icing, I guess. And it's like a childhood. Like, I can taste it right now, like, thinking of it.

[Kayl Lowery]

I wonder if they still have them.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I don't know. But then Bojangles, which I'm not a huge. Like Bojangles girly. I don't like Bojangles or Popeyes because I think it's like Cajun twist or something. Like Louisiana twist.

[Kayl Lowery]

I love Popeyes. I can't. I've had Bojangles, but I don't really remember it. I do. Like a cage. A Cajun twist.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

See, I. I don't. I don't like the seasoning on it. So we go to Bojangles a lot. There's Bojangles by my house. And Jackson loves what they're called, Boberries. And they're the same thing that kind of like what Hardee's had whenever I was growing up. Except Hardee's was like cinnamon raisin ones with like the icing on it. And Bojangles has. It's almost like a muffin biscuit, like blueberry, but then it has like icing on the top.

[Kayl Lowery]

I mean, it sounds good. We're actually getting. We just got a raising canes. We just got it. It's brand new and I'm not a fan. I'm honestly, like, it's okay and I'll get it if the kids want it. But it's not something that I'm gonna like, seek out. I feel like it's very basic. Huh.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

It's mid.

[Kayl Lowery]

Yeah. But I just read something online that said that the Top of Delaware is getting a seven brew and it's going to be about an hour away from me. But I will be making the trip occasionally.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Okay, well, since we're gonna have coffee chats, I have decided that I'm gonna be a coffee girly. But it's not really a coffee girly. I like a flat white from Starbucks. And isn't that crazy because I'm not a Starbucks girly.

[Kayl Lowery]

What is a flat white?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

It's basically like steamed milk and Espresso.

[Kayl Lowery]

I've never heard of that in my entire life.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

So good. I had it twice this weekend.

[Kayl Lowery]

Okay. I mean, talk about a combi. A coffee combo, if you.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

If you want it, is a coffee combo. I also need to tell you that yesterday, slept in, woke up, and I immediately chose violence. Like, I started stripping bed sheets. I washed every blanket in this house. I washed every piece of dirty clothes, even if it wasn't dirty, and it kind of looked like it could be. Got washed, went to Target, bought a new shark vacuum. And I had to tell you about it because Kristen text me and told me that my cleaner said that my vacuum wasn't picking up anymore. And I'm like, okay, well, I have like nine vacuums at the house, so why wouldn't they just look at the other vacuums and see if they could, you know, do the job? They prefer to use a shark. And that's coming from a professional cleaner.

[Kayl Lowery]

Relatable.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

So I am now going to sell all of my Dysons. They're on the market. If you guys want one, make me a cheap offer. I will send it to you. You will pay shipping.

[Kayl Lowery]

No, just leave them outside and someone will grab them.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

No, but I spent so much money on these and I did so much and work like to get these Dysons and they're in pristine condition.

[Kayl Lowery]

Okay.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Some of them have never even been used.

[Kayl Lowery]

There is so much I need to say right now. First, I would like to say that I also woke up yesterday and chose violence. The baby was. The babies were coming home. And Lincoln, Lux, and Creed all tested positive for flu A and the babies were coming home. Everybody's fevers broke. But on Google it says that they are contagious up to from five to seven days after. So yesterday morning, I'm lysoling the couch. I'm taking every thing off my countertops. I'm spraying with Lysol. I'm doing doorknobs. We're taking trash out. We're doing all the things right. And Elijah did give me a little push back because he was like, I don't want them to go over there. And then they get the flu again. Because they already had the flu, Elijah.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

And wait, can you get it again?

[Kayl Lowery]

Yeah, you can. Sort of like strep throat. Like if you don't change your toothbrush out and you re. You get it again, like you could be cured and then use the same toothbrush and get it. I think the flu is the same. So I'm like arguing with him because I'M like, I don't want to go another week without seeing the babies. You know what I mean? So I'm like, I'll just lysol the out of everything and just basically hope for the best. So that's what I wanted to say about that. But second to that, I just got. Before we got on this recording, I got a notice from the baby's school. Now, none of my kids have school today. It's like an in service day. So, Link, Lux and Creed are home, which is good because they're still technically contagious anyway. But got a notice from the school. Well, actually, let me backtrack. So because they're home, I also kept the babies home because I'm like, there's no sense in, like, them going to school for four hours and whatever. I have a recording and blah, blah, blah. So I get a notice just now that hand, foot and mouth is going around at the school. I already had. They've already had hand, foot, and mouth twice now. Rio's three and the twins are two and they've already had it twice. I do not. No. And I want to know what you would do. I don't want to send them for the rest of the week because I don't want to risk them getting hand, foot and mouth.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Hand, foot and mouth is so contagious and it runs rampant. And like little schools, so preschools, whatever, daycares. I would personally not send mine. Do you remember, like, way back when, when Jackson got hand, foot and mouth and I thought he had some type of, like, not curable cancer?

[Kayl Lowery]

No. But I believe you. No.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

And I had like a flashlight on his head because he had these growths that were coming up. And as a mom, number one, he's my only kid, so everything that he does, it's a first experience with something. So when I saw it, I was just bawling my eyes out, and Will comes upstairs and he's like, what's wrong? And I said, I don't know. He has tumors all over him.

[Kayl Lowery]

Hand, foot and mouth has given me ptsd because I will never forget two years ago this January, it will be two years ago that the hand, foot and mouth that the babies got. I think it was Rio gave it to Lux and Creed and they do football. Sorry. They were doing wrestling at the time. And their hand, foot and mouth turned into impetigo. Or impetigo, however you say it. And when I tell you that they were down and out for a month from that, I mean the. The infection and sores all over Like, I have ptsd. So, like, that is what I'm more afraid of. Not necessarily hand and mouth itself, but from the hand, foot, and mouth then turning into yes. And I just. I know it's up because I didn't send the kids, the babies to school today already, but, like, it's December. They're about to be on school break anyway. Like, I almost am tempted to just not send them for the rest of the entire month.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I absolutely would not. Because then all of your break, you're going to be curing hand, foot, mouth. I would absolutely not do that. I mean, there's just zero way to really prevent it because you've got to think about, like, all of the surfaces the kids are touching, touching each other. Kids who are still drooling. Like, no, no. That would take me slap out. And it's so crazy because when I talked about Jackson's hand, foot, and mouth, people didn't know that you could go to the dermatologist and get something, like, to put on the visible stuff. So, like, his was in his scalp, which was kind of weird.

[Kayl Lowery]

Talking about molluscum.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Oh, yeah, you're talking about. Yeah.

[Kayl Lowery]

You basically have to. This is not medical advice for anyone listening. This is not medical advice. I am not giving medical advice. But I was told by a professional that you could literally take. You could take them to the dermatologist for the dermatologist to do it, or you could literally, like, sanitize something and scrape the surface and then like, basically make it scab over and do it. Whatever. Whatever. I personally don't feel comfortable doing with my kids, but I took Creed to the dermatologist when he had. It was Creed or Lux, and they did it for me. They. They did all of that. But you're talking about molluscum.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah. He also had hand, foot, and mouth, though. And I want to say he ran a fever with that. Is that the one you run a fever with? Yeah. No, no. That's a no for me dog.

[Kayl Lowery]

I just. I don't want to risk it. I did text Elijah the screenshot from the school, and I said, I don't know. I almost don't want to send them question mark. I don't want them to get it. So I'm going to see what he says, like, what his. What he wants to do, but I really just. I know this is the season of all sorts of illnesses, but the flu a almost took us all out, so I really just don't. I can't. I can't take anymore right now.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

That's the flu type that I got either. I think it was last year, around this same time. And when I tell you I was out for seven or eight days, like, bedridden for that long.

[Kayl Lowery]

So when you had it? Because I had it. But I didn't get the worst of it. Lux and Creed, I feel like, got the worst of it where? Especially Lux, his night terrors from the fevers. But what's crazy was, like, for a few hours yesterday, I really thought he was on the mend. Like, I was like, oh, like he's.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Gonna be so common.

[Kayl Lowery]

Whatever. Last night, ran into my bed around, like, 11pm screaming from the night terrors again. And I'm like, what the is going on? Like, and then, Creed, last night was fine, fine, fine, fine, fine. And then around, like, 4 o', clock, fever up again, face flushing, eyes glow like, watery and glossy. And I'm like, what the? Like, you were just on the mend. So that happened to you too?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah, it happened to me too. Like, I thought on roughly day three that I was on the mend. So I'm like, oh, I can get up, take a shower, like, do stuff around the house. No. A couple of hours later, it was like I got it all over again. But I feel like the best thing that you can do is even when you think that you've got, like, the second win from being sick, don't get up. Just, like, stay laid out. You know what I mean?

[Kayl Lowery]

Or, like, pace around the house for a minute and see how you feel.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

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[Lindsay Chrisley]

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[Kayl Lowery]

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[Lindsay Chrisley]

I need to tell you what I watched this weekend and I need to know if you've watched it. The Perfect Couple on Netflix.

[Kayl Lowery]

No, I have. I feel like there's a book with that title. I have not seen that.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Okay, so I think it was like seven or eight episodes. I watched the whole thing over the weekend and I think you would like it. It's like a mystery trying to uncover who killed the mistress.

[Kayl Lowery]

Oh, I want. Is it based on a book?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I don't know. Let's look it up.

[Kayl Lowery]

I. I'm about to start you all your fault on Peacock. I'm about to start that.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Oh, I watched that. Oh wait, it does say that it's based on a book.

[Kayl Lowery]

Kill because it sounds like a book I have on my tbr. The Perfect Couple.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Then you should read it because I was hooked. Like, I could not wait to get home from my errands yesterday to take a shower and just put on a face mask and sit and watch it. I watched, I think four or five episodes yesterday.

[Kayl Lowery]

I binged the Beast in Me on Netflix, which is based on a book, I believe. And then I also binged the Diddy docu series.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I know we talked about the Diddy docu series. You said you were going to tell me about it and that it wasn't worth watching.

[Kayl Lowery]

So I have an unpopular opinion about the docu series on Diddy. I know that it's getting a lot of eyes and attention and all the things, but it's just not what I thought. And I do think it was like a power move for 50 cent and it's something that would be very Kalesque of me to do for on someone. I. Everything that was in the docu series, it's four episodes. We already knew it. We already knew everything that was in there. We knew what a shitty person he was. He has been rumored to have been affiliated or. Or the one that put the hit out on Tupac and potentially Biggie as well. We already knew all of these things. And when you're in a position of power like Diddy is to me, no shit, you shit on everyone all the way to the top. Like that is no surprise to me. What I was disappointed in was no implications of JLo, no implications of Jay Z, no nothing about his Diddy parties, the all white parties, the. The sex trafficking. Like I do understand how the jury got to the conclusion of him not being guilty on a lot of those charges because there was just no evidence. And I don't know if it was good hiding, I don't know if it was witness tampering, I don't know if it was the one Diddy house that went up in flames. Like I don't know. But there was nothing about all of those people, all of the women, all of the sex workers, all of the people he trafficked. There was nothing on that. It just was how shitty of a person he is. And no shit, we all knew that. So my unpopular opinion is that you could get the cliff notes on TikTok, you can get the cliff notes by googling you know what shitty person he was. But I don't think it needed a four part docu series. I need, I think that we needed a four part docu series on all the things we didn't know like the.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Freak offs and the white party or whatever or the. Is that the same thing?

[Kayl Lowery]

Yes.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I just want to know how the people that have been named to be associated with those events, how nothing's come out about those people and how none of them have come out and said anything.

[Kayl Lowery]

That's why I, that's why I watched it. I thought that that was going to have. And, and obviously you have to tread carefully because if there's no evidence or proof, you can't just like that's defamation and as long as you prove it's not true. But like if there's no evidence, like I heard rumors obviously before this docu series about like Meek Mill and jay Z and JLo and you know, all of these people, the Kardashians going there to these parties and stuff and it's like none of that was brought up at all. So to me, I don't know. And, and I do worry about the people that did speak up, like Kirk, who was a co founder of Bad Boy Entertainment and some of the people that he knew prior to where he is now. I do worry for their well being. Aubrey o' Day's interactions and relationship with Diddy was, was so minimal. There was so little said with Aubrey o' Day and I was surprised by that. And the sexual assault surrounding her was, I guess it could be argued that it was hearsay. Someone said that they saw her being sexually assaulted. She has read that she has no memory of it. She says she does not want to know if it's true. And so it's one of those things. And then the other one, her name was Joy. She said that she was sexually assaulted in the 90s and that it was allegedly recorded and people told her it was recorded and her mom woke up to her Joy screaming about it in her nightmares. And like, no doubt, it's probably true. I believe it. I believe her. The problem is there's no evidence. So it's like all of this can be said, but there's no evidence to back it up. And that is how the jury has to decide is like, what they're seeing, like, what they can prove beyond a reasonable doubt. And I think that's where Diddy is going to get. That's why he got the lesser sentence.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Is it possible that they were just drugged so bad that they would have no recollection?

[Kayl Lowery]

Yes. And that is basically what was said. That it did say at the end that 77 cases against him for sexual assault are still pending. So it is possible that he could get more jail time for those. But again, like, as far as like the freak offs and like other celebrities that have participated and looked the other way, like, those are things that I was watching for. I. We already knew he was a up person.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I mean, we obviously would have never been invited to a freak off because we're there to investigate, to see what's going on and then to talk about it. You know what I mean? Like, I am sure to go to one of those parties, there were like ironclad NDAs, I would imagine.

[Kayl Lowery]

But those won't hold up in court. If this is about sexual assault or rape, I know it won't hold up for that.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I just think that it might temper some tongues of other people who might have seen stuff that just wouldn't come forward.

[Kayl Lowery]

That's true. And I would like to say that I know that we had not watched it the first time we talked about it on coffee combos. 50 Cent was able to acquire the footage because. And you and I know this. Like the photographer, the videographer owns the footage that they take, right? Like, you could pay for it, but they still own it. Diddy never paid for it. And so that's how did he. That's how 50 Cent acquired it. He then turned around and paid for it or whoever did to produce this. And then second, the footage that he used in it was not compelling in any way, shape or form. To me, the footage that he had of following Diddy around the city, you know, the days and weeks leading up to his trials was very minimal. Like, if you don't even waste your time watching it, because I think we were. We were prematurely upset for something that truly didn't matter. And then second to that, they did ask him and his mom to participate and comment for this docu series and both declined.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

So I heard that it was like number one or two on whatever stream is it? Netflix? Yeah, yeah, I heard it was like number one or two. And that's just like also sad. We've gone round and round about this about watching stuff. For us to be able to either talk about it or we're just like so invested in the. I guess you, what do you call it, like entertainment news or pop culture? Like we're so invested in it. But you don't really want to put money in the pockets of those people either.

[Kayl Lowery]

I'll put money in 50s pocket.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I do a lot to 50 cent.

[Kayl Lowery]

Do you think he's cute?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

We talked about this. I do.

[Kayl Lowery]

Oh, and I don't. But if he wants to make a docu series about me, I would let him.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Like in the club was a banger, man.

[Kayl Lowery]

Oh, Lincoln hates my guts because every single year on his birthday on the way to school, I blast it and it's like go shorty, it's your birthday. And I blast it. And he gets so embarrassed. So thank you. Shout out to 50 Cent for that. I have years long memories. 50 Cent has truly made me realize I am not hating to my fullest potential. Alessandra is joining us on coffee combos today because unfortunately Kristen is very ill so she's not with us on this episode. His shit eating grin in every interview is everything. Also, in case you did not know this, Lindsay, 50 Cent did an interview on his press tour for this docu series with ABC News because you can watch ABC News in prison. Prison. And he wanted Diddy to see it. He wanted Diddy to see it.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

It just like the level of petty and the links. To be that petty and to be able to think like that deeply, to know how it would get to somebody is wild work.

[Kayl Lowery]

The funniest part is Ja Rule coming out of the woodworks and calling 50 Cent a snitch for doing this. Because 50 Cent also bought out Ja Rule's concert and nobody showed up. So it's like Ja Rule, you should not be messing with the person who also you over. And unless you want a docu series done about you, maybe shut the up.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Oh my God, I've got to tell you, have you seen those reels going around and it's like if you have a teenager and you get the notification of their grades and they're just like oh, they just haven't updated yet. They're failing three classes. And your teenagers, like, they just haven't updated the grade yet. Yes, I'll have an A at the end of the week. Do you have any children like that? No, I do. I absolutely do.

[Kayl Lowery]

I love that though.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

It'd be like a homework assignment. And it might be a homework assignment in three classes. And it's like, there's a zero in there. And it's like, oh, no, I turned it in. They just didn't update the grades. And it's like, you actually never did it.

[Kayl Lowery]

Wait, so then when you realize that he never fucking did it, what happens? Like, what. What happens next?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Well, I give it a little bit of time because I'm like, what if he is telling the truth? And so I might give it like a day or two. And then I blast off an email to the teacher and I'm like, hey, can you check Jackson's folder for set assignment? He claims it's complete. Then I wait until I get the email back that it is not complete, and I confront him with the email when he gets home.

[Kayl Lowery]

Okay. I mean, I. I told you, I told you about how I accidentally got Lincoln a 60%. Right?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I know, which is so crazy.

[Kayl Lowery]

I was gonna send an email to the teacher, but I just told her. I told both of them at parent teacher conferences last week or the week before. I don't remember when it was last week, I think, or I don't know. I let her. I let them know in person. I was like, by the way, that was me.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

So, yeah, honestly, if I did something like that, I probably would email or call a teacher and be like, actually, I'm the one that failed that assignment. So can you reopen it so somebody who knows what they're doing can actually do it?

[Kayl Lowery]

Because Lincoln would have gotten a. An 80% and I got him a 60. So that was definitely. But to be fair, I'm like, I'm a reading girly. Like, I'm not dumb. I am good at reading comprehension. So, like, I don't even. To me, his answers could have fit, but I thought mine fit better. Do you know what I mean? So, like, if multiple answers could fit here, and I'm. We're talking about a sixth grade reading level. I don't know how I that up so bad.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Not me. Like in high school, if multiple answers fit and I'm reading through it, I'm like, please, when I get to D on multiple choice, please let it be option A and C. Yeah, literally.

[Kayl Lowery]

Or like all of the above. Literally. Literally.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Because I was a habitual. All of the above.

[Kayl Lowery]

All of the above. It's like, like I don't know what I'm doing is not like the rest. All of the above is not like the rest. That's the one we're going with. Okay.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

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[Kayl Lowery]

By who? Whom.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

By William.

[Kayl Lowery]

Oh, okay.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Will took his phone. And I'm like, well, could you have notified me instead of me texting all weekend long thinking that you guys have been a part of some type of robbery? Like, could you have done that?

[Kayl Lowery]

Yeah.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

And he's like, well, the phone was taken, so if you need him, call me. And I'm like, okay, but I need to get to the point of why the phone was taken. He's like, oh, because he thought he was gonna throw hands with me on Saturday. I told him that we had to get in the car because we were going to a Christmas party parade, and he was just taking a sweet ass time. And I honked the horn, honk the horn. And then I saw him trying to take videos of me outside of the car. So when he got in, I said, surrender your device.

[Kayl Lowery]

And he said, your device is crazy work.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

It's crazy. So he was like, surrender the device. And he said, jackson, at that point, started trying to throw hands with him. And I said, honestly, like, I don't blame him. I probably would throw hands with you too. So he. He said, okay. So back up. I had another conversation with Will earlier in the week. And I said, hey, what are yalls plans for the weekend? And he said, we're going to a Christmas parade in the downtown area on Saturday. And I said, there's not a Christmas parade in the downtown area on Saturday. There's a pub crawl. So if y' all are going to the pub crawl, then just let me know. Like, let's not mask it as some fucking parade. If y' all are in the bar getting beers, just, like, tell me, okay, he is committed that this Christmas parade is on Saturday, okay? And so I said, okay, take your happy ass on and you're gonna be a part of the pub crawl. They get down there after this semi altercation pub crawl.

[Kayl Lowery]

So there was no.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

So they come home, and Will's like, well, that's good for you, Jackson, because you were going to get punished anyway. You're going to go and rake leaves. So Will said that he tried to throw hands with him again over raking leaves, and he came after him with a. With a rake. He said he started chasing around the.

[Kayl Lowery]

Yard with a rake.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

And I.

[Kayl Lowery]

Take message.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Honestly, custody, like, at this point, he was like, he has never put his hands on you. And I said, no, absolutely not. Like, in what world would that child think that it would be safe to put hands on me?

[Kayl Lowery]

I just, like, I need to see it. So I follow him unbeknownst to my own self. I must have followed him at some point. And I don't remember him ever having anything on social media, but I saw he, like, posted on his stories or something, and I screenshot it and sent it to Lindsay. Like, just that the ring was lit up, not what was on his stories. Now I need Will to, like, take a video of Jackson coming at him with a rake and post it so I can see, because I just feel like that is so funny. That is so, like, Lowry Land esque. Like, that would happen over here.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Wait, speaking of Lowry Land esque, that video that I sent you of that bird. Oh, like, around the house?

[Kayl Lowery]

Yes, yes.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

It just fits the aesthetic.

[Kayl Lowery]

Honestly, a bird would fit so seamlessly into our chaos. We actually came up with a new rule today in Lowry Land. Okay. It is if you don't eat your food on your plate, that's fine. I'm not going to force you to eat it. We'll save it for lunch. If you don't eat breakfast. Eat it for breakfast, you'll eat it for lunch. If you don't eat it for lunch, you're gonna eat it for dinner. If you don't eat it for dinner, you're walking your happy ass down to the pigs, and you're feeding it to the pigs. I'm no longer. Because so often my kids would not eat what's made. And it's fine. I don't expect them to eat all the time or if they're not hungry, whatever, fine. But we have a container that we put all of our scraps in to feed to the pigs. And I'll just accumulate it for the day and then take it down. Either me or my dad or somebody will take it down. Nope. Now you don't finish your food. You're walking it down. Oh, my God, I'm so tired of the wasteful food. Also, speaking of food, I asked Lincoln what it's like to have a cooking mom, because I've been cooking all weekend. Wait, what? Lindsay and I don't typically record on a Monday, so this is nice and fresh. I have decided to learn how to cook. And so I have been frying up chicken cutlets. I made some potatoes with seasoning. We did baked ziti. I got a waffle maker, and I made waffles for the first time in my whole 33 years of life. And I asked Lincoln yesterday, I said, what is it like having a cooking moment? And he looked at me and said, you've Made three meals. Relax.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

You're like, I really just want to be acknowledged that I'm on this journey of doing this. And you just rained in all over.

[Kayl Lowery]

My parade, but then had the audacity to say, can we have waffles again?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

It's like, no, because I've only cooked three meals, so I would hate to have to cook a fourth.

[Kayl Lowery]

We have to start somewhere. And I will say that my chicken cutlets are decent. They're okay. The potatoes were okay. The ziti was basic. Oh, I made baked Mac and cheese. Homemade baked Mac and cheese. Mac and cheese.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Was it good?

[Kayl Lowery]

Yes. I used teeny tiny recipe. Do you know who she is?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Oh, yeah. I saw people making that for Thanksgiving, actually. Yes.

[Kayl Lowery]

So I copied that recipe. I. A little bit of feedback is that I did not double the recipe. I left it how it is. Entirely too much cheese. Like. Like, entirely too much cheese to the point where it's, like, almost too much. And so it was good. Ike liked it. My kids liked it. My kids gave it 8 out of 10. I want to perfect that one a little bit. I want to use her recipe as the base, but I want to make a couple tweaks to it. And then last night, I did a baked ziti, which, in my opinion, was like, I made it around lunchtime. It was better at dinner time, if that makes sense. Like, I had some for lunch.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I'll tell you why. Sauce is always better if it's, like, marinated a little bit. So spaghetti. Like, if you make it one night and then you refrigerate it and then you reheat it, it's always better the next day.

[Kayl Lowery]

Yeah. So, like, I had some for lunch. Like, it was, like, I guess a late lunch, early dinner. And it was okay. I mean, it wasn't super flavorful. It was like, basic, middle of the road. Later on, when I had it for dinner around, like, eight, seven, eight, it was. It tasted better to me.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Alessandra said, simmering your sauce for a long time before serving it is really good, too. I would agree. Like, I do my sauce in the crock pot, so it simmers all day long. And I always use a mix of Italian sausage and ground beef.

[Kayl Lowery]

Will you send me a sausage recipe of some sort?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah, absolutely. I will. Back to the Mac and cheese. Like, are we talking swimming like Stouffers, or.

[Kayl Lowery]

No, it was a good consistency. The consistency was really good. It was just the amount of cheese. Lux and Creed don't actually eat Mac and cheese on a regular. Like, they don't prefer It. But they wanted to try it. They all just said it was. And it was three types of cheese. It was mozzarella, colby, jack and cheddar. Which is great, but with the seasonings and everything, like it was just too much. And it was. It called for three pounds of cheese to one pound of pasta.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Maybe you should have increased the amount of pasta to the cheese.

[Kayl Lowery]

I agree. And my friend Twizzler FaceTime me and was. Because he made it. He made that for Thanksgiving. He had warned me that it was going to be that way. He's like, I just made it like I'm telling you. And I'm like, I know, but I would rather follow the recipe to a T first and make tweaks later. But he ultimately was correct. And I think either less cheese to the one box of pasta or two boxes of pasta and keep the three pounds of cheese.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

You and I should do cooking videos.

[Kayl Lowery]

Yeah.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Remember how we were gonna like do cooking with coffee combos and then we.

[Kayl Lowery]

Did it like, we can do it at my content house now when you come.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah, we should do cooking videos and do like a cook off. Who's the better cook?

[Kayl Lowery]

No, I would love that. I know. I did one with Matt over the summer and it. People loved it. I think we should absolutely do that. And I'm never going to be a baker, so I'm never. Well, let me not say never because I thought I would never cook, but I want to try to make snack wraps. How? With my chicken cutlets.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Snack wraps with chicken cutlets. That sounds good. I'm sure it would be better than McDonald's, which, by the way, I have a argument with McDonald's.

[Kayl Lowery]

Why?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Okay, so pick Jackson up on Wednesday. Normally on Wednesday after school, we go to the trampoline park. We have a membership there, so it's just like easy. Swing by right after school, get our jumps out. And then we normally get fast food on Wednesday. He was like, well, McDonald's has the Grinch meal out.

[Kayl Lowery]

What is the Grinch meal?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

So it is. You can either get a Big Mac, I think, or ten piece chicken nugget. And it comes with fries, a medium drink. Socks like Christmas Grinch socks. They're probably around here somewhere. Actually, I'll show you. I've got.

[Kayl Lowery]

I've got two here.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

It comes with. It comes with these socks.

[Kayl Lowery]

Oh, cute.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Okay, but please tell me why at this point that fast food has gotten so expensive that there are certain restaurants I can go to and spend less like on like a country little dinner than I would be Spending for a Big Mac and a 10 piece chicken nugget. Do you know that it was $30 for both of us to get a Grinch meal? It did come with a seasoning pack for the fries and like a little bag to shake the fries in with a seasoning pack, which I thought was kind of cool, but it was like a pickle, like flavored seasoning.

[Kayl Lowery]

Was it good?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

The first couple of fries were good and then it's like I messed up the rest of my fries.

[Kayl Lowery]

Yeah. Because I love McDonald's french fries. So I would. It would be for me the same. Like just a couple is fine. That's really interesting. For a family of, I think seven or eight of us, it's about 120 for us to eat. That was Chick Fil A. I haven't tried McDonald's in a long time for that. But the last time I attempted to feed everybody on Chick Fil A was about a hundred and twenty dollars for all of us.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

That's just a lot of money.

[Kayl Lowery]

The craziest part of that though is that if we would have went to an Applebee's or something, I would have spent the same.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

All right, y'.

[Kayl Lowery]

All.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

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[Kayl Lowery]

Yes.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Okay. There is a recipe that one of Jackson's friends, moms, gave me and Will, and Jackson claims it tastes just like chicken minis from Chick Fil A. And it's like a whole tray of minis.

[Kayl Lowery]

Send it.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

You do the chicken in the air fryer, and then you obviously just, like, like, bake the bread, and then you, like, whisk on it.

[Kayl Lowery]

Okay, I'll try it. I'll give it a try. I will say I want to find a new baked ziti recipe because I'm a big baked ziti girly, but I love ricotta cheese. This recipe didn't call for ricotta cheese. I don't know if that's typically a staple in baked cd, but I'll make it one.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Okay. I love ricotta cheese. Actually, there's not a cheese that I don't like.

[Kayl Lowery]

Like, same. Like, I'll eat all of it.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Like, never found one cheese that I'm like, yeah, I don't with you.

[Kayl Lowery]

Same. I love cheese. Cheese is for me. If it's cheese, it's for me. This was a debate with my friends this weekend. What do you consider Cheesecake Factory in terms of grades of restaurant? I say fast casual. Wait, what do you mean? Alessandra, explain. Like, I was like, oh, I consider Cheesecake Factory Factory like a fast casual, like a casual restaurant. And Billy was like, no, people go on dates there. Like, fast casual. Like, we have a sub place by us. He's like, that's what I consider fast casual. I'm like, no, I put Cheesecake Factory in, like, the Applebee's caliber. Do you? Yeah, I do think it's. You do?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I will say that, like, the plating and stuff at Cheesecake Factory and the experience is more of, like, a higher level than Applebee's. But don't mind me, because you will find me in an Applebee's.

[Kayl Lowery]

I haven't been to Applebee's in years. Like, literal years. I. Because it just gives me diarrhea. But the Cheesecake Factory is about an hour from us, and I would not put that in the same category. I would put. And I think because to Alessandra's point or Billy's point, like, people go on dates There. I'm not saying they don't go on dates to Applebee's, but I just think the. You could be in and out of an Applebee's. Not in the same way as Cheesecake Factory. I think the entire process takes so much longer. You can't just, like, go to Cheesecake Factory on your lunch break because you will not be done in time.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Wait, remember that one time you and I went to Cheesecake Factory in Atlanta, and Lux was, like, so little and you had forgotten a bottle at the hotel?

[Kayl Lowery]

Yeah.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

So long.

[Kayl Lowery]

Yes. And I remember that, actually. I mean, the beginning of coffee combos, like, year one. Lux went everywhere because Elliot and Lincoln had. Their dads. Had 50. 50 custody. And I don't think Lux's dad was involved at that time or it was very limited involvement. And I. So I took him to Atlanta with me all the time. Like, literally, if I was going to Atlanta, Lux was going to Atlanta. If I went to California, Lux went to Cat. Like, Lux was everywhere. He said he said something yesterday. I don't remember what the conversation was. Do you remember what. Why he said to you? He literally looked at Ike and he goes, I'm mom's ride or die. He goes, I'm mom's ride or die. What she does. I do the same. That's what he said.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

It was, like, cutest. It was the cutest thing. But I. I will never forget. I think that was actually my last experience at Cheesecake Factory because I was traumatized.

[Kayl Lowery]

They up your food so bad, and you were like, I would not.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Irritated. Like, we've got a crying baby sitting at this table. He doesn't have a bottle. You up the whole order. Like, you might as well have just played roulette and brought me something.

[Kayl Lowery]

I think my ex girlfriend went back. She drove back to the hotel.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

She did. I wasn't gonna say what happened.

[Kayl Lowery]

Nobody needs nobody. Nobody needs to know who it was. But y' all already know. Doesn't need to be said. But, yeah, she went. I think she went. Did she go get the bottle, or did she end up leaving with him to go get him about something like that?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

No, I'm pretty sure we were left with the crying baby. And then she went and got the bottle, I think.

[Kayl Lowery]

So that was. That was not a great time, but it was a good memory, if that makes sense.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I'm just like, what the hell? Like, think about how long coffee combos has been going on.

[Kayl Lowery]

Literally every year for Lux's birthday is, like, a coffee combos anniversary, because we had already Started recording when he was born, but we launched, I think shortly thereafter. So like, as many. Lux is eight, coffee combos is eight.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I just. I love it. I can't believe that, like, Lux is freaking eight years old.

[Kayl Lowery]

Coffee combos is eight years old, but.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

It just like seems that long, but like, not that long. You know what I mean? Yeah.

[Kayl Lowery]

And I feel like in some ways I have not matured in any of those eight years.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

No, you definitely have. Like, it's. There has been a tempering of the tongue for sure.

[Kayl Lowery]

Power in the paws.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

There has been a power in the pause baby. Okay, so we got an email from. I don't know who this email's from, but we never say anyway, so it doesn't matter. She says, hi ladies. I've been a huge fan of you both since day one. I have a little predicament and I need yalls advice. Please keep me anonymous. I 28 female. My boyfriend, 29 male. Just had her first daughter almost three months ago. Things are going great except for my boyfriend's mom. She's sweet and means well, but makes comments that drive me insane. The baby is usually asleep when she decides she wants to stop by or whenever we meet her due to the car being soothing. Anyways, she always wants to wake the baby up, hold her, which is a tired mama. Infuriates me. The most recent time, she insisted on waking the baby up so that she could hold her and then the baby started crying and proceeded to make comments as, oh, she's so she's fine. She needs to get over it and get used to it. Or quote, she's just spoiled and needs to learn to let other people hold her. I got a whole story about this. She then compared my baby to some other children who is older than my daughter and continued the theme that he wasn't spoiled like my daughter is. I can't help but think the newborn is sleeping a lot and just wants her mama. I'm having a hard time biting my tongue. I. In my head I'm thinking, well, she doesn't let people. She doesn't let people hold her. Just not you keep in mind she's not even three months old yet. She kept telling me to feed my daughter even though she ate right before she had come over. I repeated myself several times. I love my boyfriend and really want to get married, so I try to keep the peace and just ignore her, but it's getting harder and harder to do so. Any advice? Love y' all so much.

[Kayl Lowery]

Oh for you and you guys already know how I feel about spoiling babies. You can't spoil a baby. You literally. It's human nature to want to be held by your mother. It is human nature. Stop saying, you cannot spoil a baby in that way. You can't. No amount of holding your baby is going to make them used to it or not used to it. No amount of letting them cry it out, letting them cry it out is literally goes against everything in us as humans. So, no, I'm never going to get behind that.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

The cry out method is the OR once was the bane of my existence.

[Kayl Lowery]

Like, why are we. Why are we telling a new mom that the baby needs to get over it? Why are we waking up a new baby at 3 months old? Literally? Why let the mom get the baby on a schedule? And then as grandma, I don't care what you've done in the past as a grandma, I don't care what your friends are doing with their grandkids or your kid, your other kids are doing with their kids. You need to listen to the mom and what the mom wants, period.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Okay. So when Jackson was very little, I mean, he might have been around three months old, I used to take him to my parents house during the day because I wasn't working. I mean, I was filming for the show, but Will was on a job. And it's just kind of like, okay, well, if I'm gonna listen to a crying baby, I can go do that with my parents and everybody can listen to it. Right? So we would go. We would go over there and like, have lunch and chill, hang out until it got time for Jackson to go to bed. And then we would go home, do our nighttime routine at home. When it got time to feed Jackson, I was breastfeeding exclusively for like three months of his life. But then once he started taking a bottle, my parents always just say, let me feed him, let me feed him, let me feed him. So Julie is truly like an angel when it comes to babies. Like, anybody's baby will let her hold them, except Jackson would not.

[Kayl Lowery]

Oh.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

And so I'm sure that probably was like a little tough knowing that that's your grandson and he just wants his mom and to be fed by his mom. And so I would like, try to fix the bottle and give her the bottle and let her hold him. And literally he just would not drink the milk for her. And she got so frustrated and I was like, we all need to calm down. Like, I am his mother. He's used to taking a bottle from me. Do you know Jackson would not take a bottle for anybody else for until he was almost out of a bottle a year old.

[Kayl Lowery]

Sometimes just the comfort and I, that gets tough because it's like for the mom, like for you, you probably needed that break, like that few minutes of not being touched by someone even though it is your own child. So that stuff. Actually I'm reading a book right now called the Mad Wife and she, she has two kids and the first kid she said that like wouldn't, like, wouldn't stop crying. Was like really hard for her. And I know what that's like where you just need a minute and you can't and you want someone to hold a baby. But the woman that wrote into us, like it's so hard with in laws because you like, like her. I've always wanted to keep the peace with my in laws and like sometimes to a fault, like you just want to keep the peace and you'll tell them whatever, like basically be a people pleaser just to keep the peace. And that in this case is not going to work out well. It's going to backfire.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

There are some situations with in laws that they're going to do what they want to do regardless of what you say. Like you could say it a million times and they're still going to make the choice that they're going to do it because they feel like they know better because they've already done it. Right.

[Kayl Lowery]

Here's the thing. You're gonna wake up a baby, then take the baby with you.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Exactly. Like if you're gonna wake up the baby, then you, you take the baby and you keep it woke up.

[Kayl Lowery]

Take the baby with you. I'll go get some stuff done or I'll go take myself. But you're not gonna sit here in, in my home and make comments about this. That and the third, like you're just not gonna, you're not gonna wake up my baby and then have to say, and I mean if it was me and I, I don't know how comfortable this mom is with, with her mother in law. Take the baby to her house. If she wants to wake the baby up, fine, you go. Either go home and sleep so she can't make comments to you or have your husband or boyfriend go pick up the baby afterwards, go run errands, do what you have to do and then you don't have to hear what she has to say.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

But then you also have in laws. Like my in laws were great. I mean I could, if they were going to watch Jackson and we called him like grandparents sleepovers I allowed that for the first time when he was six months old and we dropped him off, drove home, bawled my eyes out the entire way home. And I'm like, what am I supposed to do? Like right after you have a baby, even though he was already six months old, it felt like so new. It's like you don't know how to do anything else because you're so used to doing the stuff for the baby that it's like it throws off everything. So what are we supposed to do? Sit and look at each other? Yeah, bald, my eyes out the entire way home. We got picture evidence of all of the stuff that they were doing the entire time. And I mean, I would send a list for her. Like, needs bottle at this time. This is the food that he needs. This is the bath. Make sure the temperature is blah, blah, blah. Clean pajamas, make sure he's put, had lotion put on before bed. No passy unless it's bedtime. Follow it to a T. But I have come to realize that that is more of a rare occasion than it is normal.

[Kayl Lowery]

Yeah, I think if you're, if you trust your in laws or family members to have your kids, you sort of have to. I mean they should listen to you, in my opinion. But at the point that you're willing to relinquish, relinquish your child to them for whatever amount of time, you kind of have to just trust that whether they follow your direction or not, that they're going to do their best. Like the one and only time I ever left Lincoln with my mom, he was exclusively breastfed. Kristin was with me, gave her all of the information, said please do not feed him any type of food at all. Yes, he was like 8 months old, but he was not on solids yet. If he was, it was like baby led weaning. I want to say, like. So I don't even think he was there yet because I really tried to exclusively breastfeed for a year, had come back to pick him up. My mom was sloshed completely up and had given him food, potatoes, crackers, like giving him stuff. And I like at that point I was like, you're never going to see my child again. And she never did.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

And to me, I feel like that's so detrimental in a situation like that because if you're exclusively breastfeeding and that's all that your baby's used to and then they get excited exposed to something else.

[Kayl Lowery]

I. Whenever Kristen is well again, she'll have to tell the story like, because she probably remembers Things that I don't. But it, it was really, really one of those things that I'm just, I can't. And then I remember when I first had Elliot, I had one of the first times I had gone to the mall after I had him and I bought him sneakers, like little air forces and brought them home. I was so excited about his first pair of shoes and I, I'll never forget Janet complained that they were not high tops. There was no ankles. They were not, they were not supportive of his ankles or something like that. And I'm just like, honestly I'm a first time mom doing my best. Like if you could please just not make me feel bad about like my first like big purchase for my child, like that would be great.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I feel like that's such an old school thing though, like back in the day, and maybe this is just in the South, I don't know if they do stuff like this in the north, but we had a family ran shoe store and most everybody in town would go to this shoe store to get their babies their first shoes. Like they would go to be fitted and you know, first walking shoes. Ma', am, please tell me why. When Jackson started wearing shoes, do you remember the little shoes that you could buy from boutiques and they looked like little animals on them and they just had like elastic around the back and they were soft soles on the bottom.

[Kayl Lowery]

Yes. Like, I think not Jimbory. There was like stride, right? Or some kind of store that had shoes like that. Huh.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

That baby learned to walk and those little flimsy ass. I didn't have any ankle protector.

[Kayl Lowery]

I don't even think Elliot was walking at the time that I did that. So it like was, it was like a moot point.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

It was like for the aesthetic.

[Kayl Lowery]

It was my first like big purchase for him. I was more so proud of the fact that I could afford little Nike shoes for my as a teen parent than I was about him actually wearing them. It was just like I bought him some shoes. Like, I don't know, it was a big deal.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

But I feel like people, I say like fossils, like people before us, like they just have this mindset of something else than what we have. Right. Like they have not evolved. They think that everything needs to happen the same. And I'm speaking because my nanny is like this, like she thought my parents needed to do exactly what she did. So we did not need soft sole shoes. We needed to go and be fitted at the local place like for these shoes. And they need to be a specific kind of shoe. And it's like, like, let us just stroll around.

[Kayl Lowery]

Well, what's so funny about that? Same book, Mad Wife. There's like a. In the book, one of the kids gets sick and has the doctor come to her house. I guess it was a regular thing in the 50s for a doctor, like a family doctor, to come do a home visit.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah.

[Kayl Lowery]

And first of all, I wish. Second of all, the doctor recommended some recipe. It was like lemon juice, lemon juice, something else. And whiskey. And it was like, give one one serving every hour as needed. And I was like. I said it to Ike. And I'm laughing because I'm like, if we would just operate based on how people were raised in the 50s and. And 60s, 70s, eight, like, our kids would. We would be in jail. Actually, if I gave my kids, while they had the flu, lemon juice, honey, and whiskey, I would be in jail right now. Jail.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

A thousand percent. We would be in jail. But also, where did they come up with those concoctions?

[Kayl Lowery]

Like, I don't know, though I do feel like the whiskey is something. But the problem is, I think that parents would just basically create alcoholics. They would overdo it. But I do feel like there are healing properties in whiskey.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I mean, there probably is. I've heard of people rubbing whiskey on, like, baby scums and stuff that are teething.

[Kayl Lowery]

Yeah.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I never did it.

[Kayl Lowery]

I never did it with the simple fear of creating an alcoholic like boozy Susie. Oh, also speaking of boozy Susie, first of all, I took my meds today, and I don't think they're working. Like, I'm. I'm all over the place. Yesterday, I told Kristen FaceTimed me, okay, on her intravenous drugs while she's in the hospital. And I looked at her dead in the face and I said, kristen, go get some rest because you're giving boozy Susie, okay? You're. You look like her right now and you're acting like her with the very sweet high pitched voice when you're. When you're sloshed or high or whatever. And I said, go get some rest, Kristen. I'm having ptsd.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Wait, so your mom was like a sweet, high pitched voice in a state of blackout?

[Kayl Lowery]

Yeah, my mom when she's up. Outside of pretending to be the Wicked Witch of the west from wizard of Oz, outside of those scenarios, she was always a very loving, fun drunk. Like, happy to spend money drunk. Always nice when she was drunk. Like, she was not a mean drunk, but she was drunk nonetheless. Or high, so it would piss me off. I Actually would call home sometimes. And if I. If she had a certain voice, I knew. Knew.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Like you knew was at the time you tried to take advantage of her.

[Kayl Lowery]

And then. And then I would be like, can we go shopping? And we'd go down to the Sneaker King, and she'd get me an outfit or she'd get me shoes. Driving drunk, of course.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Wait, what was the Sneaker King?

[Kayl Lowery]

The Sneaker King was on Route 6 in Honesdale, right next to Kmart. And I always wanted, like, brand name items, so. Which I would wait till she got up, and then she would take me. We only ended up in a ditch one time.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

And that's how you became a con.

[Kayl Lowery]

And that's how I became a Converse. Just call me Gypsy Rose.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Oh, my God.

[Kayl Lowery]

I'm kidding.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

You cannot. Okay, on that note, we have foul play.

[Kayl Lowery]

This is gonna be so funny, because I had a brand deal with Mattress Firm a couple years ago, so I can't wait to read this. Okay, the night I traumatized a Mattress Firm employee a few years ago, my boyfriend and I decided we were finally grown enough to buy a real adult mattress. This. So we go to this Mattress Firm, and the salesman is way too enthusiastic about us really getting a feel for the bed. Sir, be careful what you encourage. We're testing out mattresses, bouncing on them, rolling around, whatever. At one point, my boyfriend jokingly whispers, we should see if it's sturdy. And I begin the chaotic woman I am and take that. Took that as a challenge. The salesman walks away for a minute, and my boyfriend and I start making out on this luxury pillow. Top, top. Like we were in a dramatic Netflix series. Okay, Things escalate quickly. He's still fully clothed, but let's say the energy was shifting. I climb on top of him as a joke and go, how's this for sturdiness and because God hates me? The entire corner of this mattress slams to the floor like WWE folding tables. The crash was so loud, the salesman sprints back over, and I literally fall forward onto my boyfriend with the loudest accidental fart my body has ever been produced. Like, echoing off the showroom walls. The salesman freezes. My boyfriend is crying. Crying from trying not to laugh. I'm sweating red and on the broken mattress like roadkill. The salesman, trying to be professional, says, oh, well, it's definitely soft. Certain, we had to help him lift the mattress back onto the frame. And I had to do the walk of shame through the store while he avoided eye contact like he witnessed a felony. We did not buy the Mattress.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Not buying the mattress is wild work. After all of that, in my opinion, it's like you have committed to to this mattress. I can tell you never have I ever gone to a mattress store and tried a mattress before purchasing.

[Kayl Lowery]

Also, I'm lying. I had one. One mattress that I bought at like a Sears or something and it was literally the most magical mattress I've ever had. It was like a beauty rest or something like that. Becky has it now in her guest room. That was the only one that I physically sat on and bought. And I was obsessed with it.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

But many kids did you make on that mattress?

[Kayl Lowery]

I don't even think any of my children were conceived in a bed.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Well, we know.

[Kayl Lowery]

Two were in a car. Lincoln was in a hotel. The babies were in a bed for sure.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Where was Elliot?

[Kayl Lowery]

He was a car on prom night.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Oh yeah, the car on prom night.

[Kayl Lowery]

Yeah. Lincoln Hotel.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I forgot. So Elliot, Lux were both in a vehicle. Creed was a completely different scenario. The three were in the bed. Who are we missing?

[Kayl Lowery]

Lincoln was in a hotel.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Oh, Lincoln in a hotel.

[Kayl Lowery]

And anyone looking. Anyone that is mattress shopping. I would love to recommend a couple mattresses. Okay. In no particular order. If you're looking for more higher end options, Purple mattress and Nectar are my two favorite high end. If you're on a budget. I'm probably going to shock people when I say this, but I will post a link. The two most comfortable. I have a Nectar in one room and I have a purple mattress myself in my own room. Love them both. The two most comfortable beds in my house are Lincoln and Lux and they came from Amazon. And I will post the link. And to this day, when I get a new mattress, at some point it will be whatever Lincoln and Lux have from Amazon.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I have Nectar and purple in this house, love. Because when I went through my breakup, like before I moved here, we know how I feel about mattresses, like how to get a new mattress. I'm pretty sure mine in my bedroom is purple also. Purple sheets are very expensive. But I do love purple sheets.

[Kayl Lowery]

I listen, I'm here to tell you whether or not you should buy purple products. I know they're pricey. I know they are. But I have been very happy with my purple products.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

But we have to think about like mattresses as investments, right?

[Kayl Lowery]

Like 1,000%. And that's why I was kind of giving options. Because the two mattresses that I got from Amazon are in my opinion, just as comfortable, if not more comfortable than those super high end ones. So while I do love purple, if you're on a budget. I will say I will post a suggestion.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Isn't it so crazy how mattresses also come now? Like, you order them online and they're in what looks like a tiny box, and then you cut open the stuff and then all of a sudden you just have this big, comfortable mattress.

[Kayl Lowery]

Well, that's why I'm wondering. No shade to mattress firm. Like, thanks for the partnership a couple years ago. Loves that for me and loves that for you. But, like, are you all laundering or something? Because nobody's physically going. Like, why are you having these big box stores with mattresses and three people come in all week? Like, it's so.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

You know what I mean? We should do a marketing test and go sit outside of, like, stores that we think people don't go to and purchase, like, all those types of things online to see how many people actually go into the store.

[Kayl Lowery]

Like, they're. The amount of mattress firms is sort of on par part. It's same for, like, car dealerships. Don't you feel like they have an awful lot of cars on the lot and too many salesmen? But how many people are really coming in to buy cars every single day?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I think maybe like the salesman. The salesman situation is maybe to, like, add competition in the workforce. So, you know, competition sometimes incentivizes people to close a deal.

[Kayl Lowery]

Okay, but maybe don't be open seven days a week then, because, like, surely. And like, sales car salesmen don't make as much money on brand new cars as they do used cars. They can add more money to a used car on the back end to make a higher commission where they're not making pretty much anything on a brand new car. So, like, make it makes like maybe close two days a week, three days a week, and then the competition would be left in the four days because there would be, like, a supply and demand situation.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I mean, I could probably get behind that. I can tell you the car dealerships that I go to, there are always people on the lot looking or in offices, like, negotiating as many as you.

[Kayl Lowery]

Would think for the amount of cars and the amount of salespeople. Like, yeah, a handful of people every day. But, like, they could just move it to the next day. Do you know what I'm saying?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

What do they end up doing with the cars? Like, once they get the new ones for, like, the new year, do they have to discount the cars that they have on the lot from the previous year?

[Kayl Lowery]

Yes, they. Well, I don't think it, like, they do it. I think, like, the manufacturers Require it, if I had to guess. But my plan for Elliot, listen, this is what I'm about to say is not up for discussion. This is what I'm personally doing. I'm not looking for another way to do it. I'm getting him a car January 2026, but I'm looking for an unused brand new 2024. And the reason why I'm saying that that's two years old at that point is because it's 2025. But in 2025, this today, they still have unused unbought 2024s.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yep.

[Kayl Lowery]

So my thought was I could get a brand new car in 2026. And I'm going with the suggestion that you made on the car that you suggested. I'm not going to say it yet. And I'm going to look for a 2024 because at that point would they have to discount it further because the 2026 are now on the lot?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

That's what I'm thinking because I mean, maybe other people do that same like.

[Kayl Lowery]

I got my car, I got a 2024 at the end of. Sorry, what year are we in 2025. I got my brand new 2024 Denali when the 2025s were already on the lot.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Did you get a discount?

[Kayl Lowery]

I think I financed it. So I don't think. And I didn't lease it. I like bought it. I don't think so. People think they get discounts on cars and I think the only real discounts come one, on used cars and two, if you're paying in cash. Cash, you're not actually getting a deal if you're financing. And so I don't think I even tried to negotiate because it wouldn't have been worth it, if that makes sense.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I'm so glad that you are going with my suggestion for his first car.

[Kayl Lowery]

So am I. He. I hope he loves it. And it's one, it's so reliable, so fucking reliable. It's safe, as safe as you can get for a teen child, a teen boy. And it's going to hold its value. And that is what I really want because eventually he will want to get his own car with his own money and upgrade or whatever he wants to do. And I want to make sure that it holds its value and he can either trade it for what he wants or pass it down to one of his siblings. And I am really happy with this and honestly sort of mad at myself for not thinking of it. And I appreciate you for your suggestion.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Not us just on a Saturday like rolling through all the cars on a three way call with Kristen and I'm like, what about?

[Kayl Lowery]

And I was like, yep, that's it. That's the one. Literally no questions asked. Literally no questions. I was like, that is what I'm getting him.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

That is the one. Okay, that's all we have time for today. Thank you guys for always supporting our show. Please subscribe and review on the Apple Podcast app, follow and rate on Spotify or listen wherever you get your your pods. For our latest merch, visit coffeecombost podcast.com to shop. Full video episodes are available on Kale's [e-mail] Kale Lowry don't forget to follow us on Instagram and join our Facebook group to connect with us and our community. We hope you guys have a great week and we'll talk to you soon.

[Kayl Lowery]

See ya.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

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