ENCORE Feet Finders, Toxic Trait Testimony & Confessions

Summary

Coffee Convos Podcast: “ENCORE Feet Finders, Toxic Trait Testimony & Confessions”

Episode Date: January 1, 2026
Hosts: Kail Lowry & Lindsie Chrisley

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Brief Overview

In this lively installment of Coffee Convos, reality stars and close friends Kail Lowry and Lindsie Chrisley dive deep into candid conversations about unusual side hustles, everyday frustrations, and the nuanced realities of motherhood, relationships, and personal quirks. With their signature humor and honesty, they explore venturing into selling feet pics, dissect so-called “toxic” traits, and share a hilarious and sometimes petty array of confessions submitted by listeners.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Feet Finders & Odd Side Hustles

• Lindsie’s New Venture: Lindsie reveals that she recently joined Feet Finders to sell feet pics (00:38). Reactions range from shock to curiosity, with candid discussions about boundaries, unexpected requests (including armpit and sock fetishes), and pragmatic pricing.
• Memorable Message Request: Lindsie reads out a bizarre request involving her armpits (01:05).
• Discussion on Boundaries: Kail expresses hesitation: “That’s an area of life I wouldn’t want to dabble into. Feels like a slippery slope—you go from Feet Finder to OnlyFans fast” (03:24).
• Business Brainstorming: They joke about creating a feet pic menu and the possibility of joint accounts—“Clam Diggers by Kail and Lindsie” (07:31).

2. “I’ll Die On This Hill” Hot Takes

A series of rapid-fire opinions and “hills to die on,” highlighting their strong and often humorous perspectives.

• School Pickup Line Chaos: Kail rails against the disorder and stress caused by school pickup lines (08:18).
  • Quote: “School pickup lines bring out the absolute worst in people.” (08:18)
• Grocery Delivery Frustrations: The hosts split: Kail prefers shopping in person; Lindsie is loyal to click lists despite their imperfections (10:02).
  • Quote: “Grocery delivery is always wrong. Just go yourself. Remember when I ordered bananas and got one banana?” — Kail (10:02)
• Target vs Walmart: Debate on which store genuinely offers better prices and selection, especially in fashion (13:22).
• “K” Texts as Abuse: Kail is adamant that replying with ‘K’ is offensive: “K as a text reply is a form of abuse. I will die on that hill.” (15:48)
• Men Gaming with Headsets After 30: Both agree it’s a turnoff: “If he still games with a headset at 30, he’s not the one.” — Kail (17:14)
• Chick-fil-A Fries: Arguments over the quality of their fries—Lindsie is not a fan, with an amusing backstory on why (18:37).
• Bravo Housewives vs NFL: Kail isn’t a fan of Housewives, preferring football (18:04).

3. Toxic Trait Testimony

A segment dedicated to examining the gray area between “toxic” behavior and normal coping or survival strategies.

• Hiding Snacks From Kids: Is it wrong to buy snacks “for the kids” but then hide and eat them yourself? They debate (28:13).
• Notes App Rants: Is privately venting in the notes app and sending screenshots to a friend healthy or toxic? Kail is skeptical; Lindsie sees value in emotional processing and outside perspective (31:55).
  • Quote: “Not everything needs a reaction. Maybe you just want to get this out, but it’s not enough for me to say something just yet.” — Lindsie (32:11)
• Changing Thermostat Blame: Lowering the AC and blaming it on the kids—Kail calls it genius, Lindsie says it’s toxic (35:11).
• Withholding Small Gestures in Relationships: Both admit to strategic (or petty) behaviors when angry at a partner, acknowledging it’s probably toxic at its core (36:49).
• Interest on Family Loans: Keeping a sibling’s stuff as “interest” for slow loan repayment—deemed justified yet petty (39:58).
• Ordering Extra When Friend Pays: Agree it's both toxic and opportunistic (41:04).

4. Confessions & Petty Court

Listeners’ confessions and petty grievances are dissected with empathy (and ample humor).

• Faking Calendar Appointments: One listener fakes appointments so her husband can’t book golf on her day off; the hosts discuss the deeper issue of communication (42:52).
• Keeping Ex’s Location: Hilarious takes on using exes’ phone locations post-breakup—for avoiding run-ins or, more dubiously, reporting new girlfriends (45:23).
  • Quote: “Ladies, check your location. Make sure you’re not sharing it with your ex. But men—leave yours on.” — Lindsie (46:12)
• Petty Parking Revenge: Moving things in a cart as revenge for a stolen parking spot: “That’s excessive. I do not give a…” — Lindsie (53:58).
• Trash Can Drama & HOA Fines: Kail shares her ongoing battle with her HOA over trash can protocol and being reported by a neighbor. The hosts debate what’s fair and the pettiness of HOA rules (55:16).
• Marital Laundry Sabotage: Washing husband’s clothes with no detergent as passive-aggressive payback—both agree it’s “psychotic” (60:06).
• Roommate Tupperware Wars: Serious business about not sharing (or losing) glass Tupperware and high-end candles (64:19, 67:02).
  • Quote: “Nobody is taking my glass Tupperware home. If you want leftovers, you’ll be taking it in a Ziploc bag.” — Kail (64:59)
• Petty Court Submissions: From purposely leaving empty ice trays to stealing Tupperware, all are judged—“That’s child-like behavior” — Kail (64:15).

5. Foul Play: Hilarious Listener Mishaps

• Farting During Intimacy: A listener recounts accidentally farting on her now-husband’s hand the first time they hooked up, and the hosts share their own embarrassing moments (69:50).
  • Quote: “It’s like Kale on the leather couch blaming my farts on the couch…” — Lindsie (70:27)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Side Hustles and Fetishes

  • “So Feet Finder has quickly turned into Armpit Finder.” — Lindsie (02:08)
  • “You go from Feet Finder to OnlyFans fast.” — Kail (03:24)

• On Parenting & Relationships

  • “School pickup lines bring out the absolute worst in people.” — Kail (08:18)
  • “If he still games with a headset on at 30, he’s not the one.” — Kail (17:14)
  • “Chick-fil-A fries are the best. No fries. Period.” — Kail (18:37)

• On Petty & Toxic Behaviors

  • “K as a text reply is a form of abuse. I will die on that hill.” — Kail (15:48)
  • “If you’re in a situation to loan people money, never loan money if you want it back.” — Kail (40:44)
  • “That’s childlike behavior.” — Kail (64:15)

• On Sharing With Roommates

  • “If anybody is lighting my three-wick candle… unless it’s me enjoying the smell—don’t.” — Kail (67:02)
  • “Nobody is taking my glass Tupperware home.” — Kail (64:59)

• On Embarrassing Sex Stories

  • “It’s giving like Kale on the leather couch, blaming my farts on the couch.” — Lindsie (70:27)

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Timestamps for Significant Segments

• [00:38] Lindsie Joins Feet Finders
• [01:05] Reads First Bizarre Request
• [03:24] Kail on Crossover from Feet Finder to OnlyFans
• [07:31] Business Brainstorm—“Clam Diggers”
• [08:18] School Pickup Lines Rant
• [10:02] Grocery Delivery Disasters
• [13:22] Target vs Walmart
• [15:48] “K” Replies and Text Etiquette
• [17:14] Adult Gaming Red Flags
• [28:13] Toxic Trait Testimony Segment Starts
• [31:55] Notes App Rant Therapy
• [35:11] Thermostat Trickery
• [36:49] Withholding Small Gestures
• [39:58] Family Loan “Interest”
• [41:04] Ordering Extra when Friend Pays
• [42:52] Confession: Faking Calendar Appointments
• [45:23] Still Tracking Exes
• [55:16] HOA Trash Can Drama
• [60:06] Malicious Laundry Tactics
• [64:19] Tupperware Petty Court
• [67:02] Candle Etiquette Debate
• [69:50] Foul Play: Intimate Farting Story

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Tone & Style

True to their brand, the episode is irreverent, open, and full of laughter as Kail and Lindsie blend relatable stories, honest opinions, and listener confessions without sugarcoating—or much of a filter. They approach even heavy or “toxic” subjects with humor and empathy, making the conversation both insightful and highly entertaining.

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A must-listen for fans of unfiltered takes, messy everyday realities, and those who want to feel like they’re hanging out and venting with friends.

Transcript

[Kale Lowry]

I hate gift giving and receiving.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Receiving gifts is so weird. What do you say? Thank you.

[Kale Lowry]

This is Coffee Convos with Kale Lowry and Lindsay Chrisley.

[Sponsor Voice]

I really want you to be in your feels.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Kale, that does not interest me whatsoever.

[Sponsor Voice]

I feel very attacked by you.

[Kale Lowry]

A spirited discussion about motherhood, friendship, family and life in the public eye. I'm just not with the fakery anymore.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

There's a fakery bakery around here.

[Kale Lowry]

Here's Kayl and Lindsay. Good morning and welcome back to another episode of coffee combos podcast. Good morning, Kitty Ca. I'm happy to see you in person.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Hello, Kitty cat. I have a fun update on my life for you.

[Kale Lowry]

Oh, wow.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

On this fine in person recording coming in hot. Last week I joined feet finders.

[Kale Lowry]

You what?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I joined feet finders.

[Kale Lowry]

Okay.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

To sell feet picks.

[Kale Lowry]

Have you sold any?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Well, I have an update. I want to read you a message I got last night. This was my first feet finder request.

[Kale Lowry]

How long have you been on there?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

About four days.

[Kale Lowry]

Okay, good numbers.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

This one was interesting for me because I. I didn't know what to expect with feet finders. And I did let one of my children's fathers know because I was like, in case you see rumors, it's true. And he was like, okay, as long as you're not like, thanks for the heads up kind of deal. This is the first request that I got and I. Nobody in this room has heard this yet. I would like to get four minutes of your bare armpits, tickled, tortured, up close, non stop. And to maybe use some oil to make them more ticklish. I really want to hear you laugh. Hard eyes. But at the same time, of course. And with your hands tied above your head so you can't put them down at all. I want no mercy. So you get the most laughs. And for the last 30 seconds of the video, can you count down from 10 to 0 slowly and have the tickling intensify? Hard eyes. And if you could also add some words throughout the video saying it, saying like, it tickles so much. Tickle me harder. Things like that. And would you do it topless? If not, you can wear a bikini top or a strapless bra. Hard eyes.

[Kale Lowry]

What's the fee?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

So feed finder has quickly turned into armpit finder.

[Kale Lowry]

I mean, I understand. I'm gonna get to that next. But I'm saying, what's the fee that they're paying for this if you want to do it?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

You said feet. I let. I messaged him back and I said, let me. Let me get Back to you. Because I. This one's a tough sell for me.

[Kale Lowry]

It was a tough sell from the first sentence for me.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I would like to get four minutes. So specific. Four minutes of your bear jacking off.

[Kale Lowry]

Like, writing that I have a skin.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Tag in my left armpit. No, I don't want anyone to see that. I'm thinking of ways to rip it off. Do I use a razor? Like, I don't want him to see my. My left armpit. Specific, specifically.

[Kale Lowry]

Okay, but how much is he paying you?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I didn't. I said I would have to get back to him because this one.

[Kale Lowry]

Can you get back to him and ask him how much?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah, I could say, like, best offer. And then this morning I got another one that was. He would like to buy my socks. My gym socks. Like, he wants me to work out in the socks. And then he would like to buy those.

[Kristen]

That's to put over his dick while he jerks off.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

That I could get on board with that. I'll send him socks. I'll send him a mystery box every month.

[Kale Lowry]

A mystery box.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

You, socks. I feel like if you're not on feet Finder, what are you doing?

[Kale Lowry]

I just feel like that's an area of life that I wouldn't want to dabble into. You know, I feel like it's a slippery slope. You go from feet finder to only fans fast.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah. With more feet picks. Like, you could put feet. Your same feet content on only. Only fans.

[Kale Lowry]

I know, but, like, what are people doing with the feet picks?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I don't care. I don't care. I do not care.

[Kale Lowry]

Do you want to see the person before they get.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

No, I don't want to see them, but hopefully my feet are. I hope they make a shrine somewhere. Like, I hope that they are nice enough that they make it onto a shrine.

[Kale Lowry]

Okay. Well, I just. I don't know about this business venture.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

If anyone knows someone who wants feet content, please let me know. I am on feet Finder as myself.

[Kale Lowry]

Can I see, like, some samples of the feet picks that you're planning on using just for context, for myself.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Hold on. Do you want to see the example of the tickle thing that he sent?

[Kale Lowry]

Yeah.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yes.

[Kale Lowry]

Is this as an example of someone else that he got to do this?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah, this is an example that he got and I'm about to send it to you. I'm about to show you. The only thing I don't like about feet Finder right now at this moment is that they don't have their own app. So it's like, you have to log on to the website.

[Kale Lowry]

Yeah.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Okay, so this is.

[Kristen]

Hold on.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Don't say you know her.

[Kale Lowry]

How the would I know this person?

[Kristen]

Are you looking at an arm?

[Kale Lowry]

Why does she have on weights?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

He probably requested that.

[Kale Lowry]

Oh, maybe that's just a strap to, like, hold her down. Looks like she's in an office chair. Like, that's very. Who's tickling her, though? Him.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Well, so I. When I messaged him back, I said, are you trying to tickle me in person, or is it okay if I have someone that tickles me? And he said, I can use someone else to tickle me and just send the content. Oh, sorry. Okay. Do you want to see it?

[Kristen]

Send it to the group chat.

[Kale Lowry]

Can you send me, like, some of the content just for, like, giggles?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah, and apparently I've been giving it away for free all this time.

[Kale Lowry]

So you've seen people feet pick already?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

No, Kristen said that all my content is my feet.

[Kristen]

When Kale takes content, there is always. At every upload, there are at least five shots of this. These toes, these Clam diggers.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

That's going to be my new username.

[Kale Lowry]

Wait, Kale.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Clam Diggers. Clam Diggers by Kale cdk.

[Kale Lowry]

Can you imagine?

[Kristen]

It's every dump.

[Kale Lowry]

Should we just both go on feet finder and just cancel the rest of our life?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

You could go to Pilates and then sell those socks for your pilot Pilates membership.

[Kale Lowry]

Socks are expensive. They're like $30 a pair.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah, but you could sell them for more.

[Kale Lowry]

I don't think anybody's paying more than $30 for a pair of socks.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

You would be mistaken. Like, I'm waiting for him to get back, the other guy to get back to me about how much he wants my socks for.

[Kristen]

Did we respond to him?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah.

[Kristen]

What did you say? How much?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I think I said, how much are you willing to spend?

[Kristen]

What's the budget?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I think for dirty socks, for me, like, we have to talk about shipping and then the cost of the socks itself. I'd say at least 50 bucks minimum.

[Kale Lowry]

50 bucks? Are you sending Nike? Just go to Costco and buy, like, in bulk. Yeah, yeah.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

No, I'm saying for me to mail. For me to send you my dirty socks, I need a minimum of $50.

[Kristen]

That's cheap.

[Kale Lowry]

That's cheap.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Too cheap.

[Kale Lowry]

That's.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

What do you think, like 100?

[Kristen]

Start at, like, 125.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Okay. Should we get a price card? We should do a menu.

[Kale Lowry]

Like, let's do a menu, Flip menu.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Because. No, Someone messaged me last night and said, do you have a menu? And I didn't know how to answer that because I didn't think of. I didn't think that far. Now I get why, like, people on Only Fans, they have managers for their only fans. And if I had to guess, I don't know this for sure. For someone who runs multiple Only fans accounts, I would think that it's similar to, like, how Kayla and the team sends me what my content plan is. My guess is the person is essentially running the actual account for the person and then going and saying, this is all we need to get. And they use, like, a shoot day to get all the things, and then the manager is sending it out and responding as that person. That is my guess, my best guess.

[Kale Lowry]

So you let me know once you get the business plan together, and then I might copy said business plan.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Okay.

[Kale Lowry]

Love that.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Lindsay Clam diggers.

[Kale Lowry]

Kale Clam diggers. Lindsay Clam diggers.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Kitty Clam diggers. Oh, kitty. We. If we sell them together. Yeah, Coffee combos. Clambers are like Lindsay Kale claim diggers. And we have a joint account, so every time we're together, we get the feet content. Like, one person when I used to be on Only fans, requested me to splash my feet in the pool.

[Kale Lowry]

Oh, wait, I think you sent me that video.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Like, that's real, but I got it for free. Don't tell people that.

[Kale Lowry]

Okay, so we have a segment. It's called I'll die on this hill.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

When did we start this?

[Kale Lowry]

I mean, I don't know. Right now.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Okay.

[Kale Lowry]

School pickup lines bring out the absolute worst in people.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I don't do school pickup line anymore for that reason.

[Kale Lowry]

Remember me telling you about people lining up, like, hours prior to school pickup?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah. Ike just said that. He said he likes to be in the first 10 cars or 20 cars, whatever.

[Kale Lowry]

I mean, I get it. And if you have children that have anxiety and for whatever reason, they've actually never been left anywhere in their entire life, but for whatever reason, they think if you're not within the first five cars of school pickup, that you forgot them. I don't know. Must be, like, a mental issue. But Jackson used to think that, okay, I don't do school pickup because we do bus in the afternoon. So I have completely eliminated that, and I'm so grateful for it. I agree that school pickup lines do bring out the worst in people. People tend to forget how to merge. People tend to forget that children need to be in car seats. You have kids hanging out of the roof, like, out the side of the window, you're worried they're gonna fall out, you're gonna hit them. Like, it's just a stress that I don't want to deal with. So I'm in agreement with you.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

So for Lux and Creed school, it's under construction, so that means the pickup line is a little more chaotic. There's a park across the street that a lot of parents will park at and walk over and then walk their kid. That's what I've been doing for the last, like, year. I think that's.

[Kale Lowry]

That's easier.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah, because getting in that line and then waiting your turn like I was. I cut out like 40 minutes by walking over to the school now and then going back 40 minutes? Yeah, like at drop off and at up in the afternoon.

[Kale Lowry]

That's crazy. Okay, Grocery delivery is always wrong. Just go yourself. Remember that time that I ordered bananas and I got one banana? Do you remember that?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I'll never forget. Yeah, because you have to click it so that it's like the pound.

[Kale Lowry]

But who would do that? And who would know that the click list is.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Can be misleading? Because sometimes it's a picture of one banana and sometimes it's a bundle. So, like, if it's a bundle and then you click one bushel. Whatever. Bundle of bananas. Bushel. Let us know if you. Bushel.

[Kristen]

Isn't it a bushel of apples.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Oh.

[Kale Lowry]

A bunch of bananas.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

A bunch.

[Kale Lowry]

It's a bunch a peck.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

No, I think you're right.

[Kale Lowry]

It's a. I think it's a bunch.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

So that's what it's called. Sometimes it's a picture of a bunch of bananas, and then you click, like, the plus button and you think it's one, but it's one pound.

[Kale Lowry]

Got it. Okay, that makes sense.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I will never go back to going to the store every time. There are times where I do choose to go to the store, I don't have a choice. But nine and a half times out of 10, I'm doing a click list, and I don't care what's wrong.

[Kale Lowry]

Okay, this is where you and I are going to disagree.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

You go to the store.

[Kale Lowry]

Yes. The idea of doing, like a instacart or whatever that thing is, where you, like, drive to it and then you park in this specific spot. I'm never doing that because it's always wrong. And here's the other thing. I always forget something on my list, but when I'm at the store, I remember it. So then I have to go back anyway.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Fair. If I had more time I would do it.

[Kale Lowry]

Also I'm a cheap. Like I don't want to pay for delivery fees. For what? Like I have legs.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

If I had less children, I would go to the store.

[Kale Lowry]

Well, that's a lot of kids to go to the store.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah.

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[Kale Lowry]

Target is just Walmart with higher prices. Disagree. I used to think that I don't.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Know what the price differences are between Walmart and Target. I have no idea. And they're on completely opposite sides of town for me. So I don't go to Target very often. When I do, I don't know what the our. Could the same product be two different prices? Like one price at Target and one price at Walmart?

[Kale Lowry]

Yes.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Why?

[Kale Lowry]

Like specifically where I notice the biggest price differences with Target and Walmart are the cleaning supplies.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Why is that? Just people that go to Target are willing to pay more so they can. Yeah.

[Kristen]

And also like Walmart has like a monopoly. It's similar to Amazon where they try to make lower prices so that people will go there specifically and that's why they put out like mom and pop shops and stuff because like they're. They'll purposefully like Amazon for example will take a loss on books because they sell it so cheap in order to eventually become the monopoly on books.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Interesting. I didn't know what the, what that was about.

[Kale Lowry]

I also think that Walmart has a larger selection. Like in a superstore of groceries, their groceries are significantly cheaper in my opinion. Walmart fashion. I feel like people sleep on that over Target.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I will, I will say that over the last few years Walmart has done better where they weren't always this good.

[Kale Lowry]

Like I used to think years ago that Target had really, really cute stuff. Now when I go into Target number one, I hate how their stuff is organized because it just feels in an organized way that I wouldn't organize it. But also I only ever occasionally find something like when I told you that they did that Champion collab or whatever. Okay, I bought a sweatshirt, but I haven't bought clothes from Target and probably since 2023.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Just because it's just not as good.

[Kale Lowry]

Yeah, it's just not as good. And I feel like Walmart has really upped their game. I think when they started doing stuff with Influencers, I think that they really upped their game in the fashion world.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I think that's fair. I think that's a. I, I saw one of my girlfriends wore like a cute camo set from Walmart and I was like, oh, where did you get that? And she was like, Walmart. And it was like a three piece set. Yeah, it was cute. I mean, I would agree with you. I would agree with that.

[Kale Lowry]

Okay. K as a text reply is a form of abuse. I will die on that hill.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

See, that doesn't bother me.

[Kale Lowry]

Oh, that absolutely chaps my ass.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Like at the point that you're only saying, hey, maybe don't respond at all. But like if you're like sending a text to acknowledge that, like hey, can you go to the store to pick up chicken breast then why can't you just.

[Kale Lowry]

Or like thumbs up or thumbs up it.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I think K is the same as like thumbs up. Like to me it's passive aggressive. If you thumbs up a text. Like to me that feels so passive.

[Kale Lowry]

I dated someone one time that told me to never send them a thumbs up. And every single time I was mad at them from that point forward. Thumbs up.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah.

[Kale Lowry]

But like the K just seems like, okay, I'm not worth enough of your time to put the O in front of it. You know? Does that make sense? Yeah, I guess it just passive.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

It also depends on the conversation.

[Kale Lowry]

I feel, well, where would you use.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

K on my way K. Okay. Or like if I pick my kids up in the Jeep or I pick my kids up, I'll tell Lincoln I'm in the Jeep K. Okay. You know what I mean? I'm in the Denali Kristen.

[Kale Lowry]

See, I'm definitely like a harder of a text, right? So like if I get a text and I'm acknowledging it, I heart it.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

That's my preferred.

[Kale Lowry]

Yeah.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah.

[Kale Lowry]

Okay. If he still games with a headset on at 30, he's not the one.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

No.

[Kale Lowry]

I'm going to die on the hill that he's not the one.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

If he's gaming, I mean, why isn't.

[Kale Lowry]

He playing with puss? Why is he playing with a game? Like I don't. You know what I mean?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah.

[Kale Lowry]

Like, you know, it's a little cringe.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

It's like it's cringe.

[Kale Lowry]

PlayStation or me. Because it ain't both.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

But like, what if it's like the middle of a Sunday and y' all are not doing anything? Is it still cringe for him to wear a headset?

[Kale Lowry]

Yeah. Why the do you wear a headset?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I agree.

[Kale Lowry]

Okay, moving on. Bravo. Housewives fights are better than NFL games.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I've never seen one.

[Kale Lowry]

I do not watch Housewives. I never. I mean, yes. Have I seen it on Bravo. Just like scrolling yes. Have I ever been invested in any season of any city of Housewives? Never. Not really something that I'm interested in. Doesn't really feel like real life to me. Feels very over produced. Feels very chasey of needing a next season vibes I could see that.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I've never. I don't know. I have no idea what that.

[Kale Lowry]

And I love football, so I'm gonna say no. Chick fil a fries are mid. It's the sauce that makes them good. I'm gonna die on the hill. That chick fil A fries are the best. Fast food fries?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Hell no.

[Kale Lowry]

Hell, because you're a liar.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Literally not the sauce. Doesn't even make it. Like I'm not in no world. And maybe I used to be like a hyper fixated chick fil a girly. I haven't been that way for years. At the. At least. At least one to two years at this point. I'm not a chick fil a girly. I do not prefer their fries. I don't prefer actually I think because they gave me diarrhea one time and I never went back.

[Kale Lowry]

Do you dip fast food fries in salt?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yes.

[Kale Lowry]

What kind of sauce?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

So if it's McDonald's barbecue or sweet and sour. If it's Wendy's ranch or barbecue.

[Kale Lowry]

Okay. And those are the only two that you go to?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Those are the only two. I'm a McDonald's girly through and through.

[Kale Lowry]

I know you've always loved a good McKitty's. I think chick Fil A fries are the best. No fries, period. And I do not dip. I just eat fries plain. Like, okay, Creed ketchup. I don't put, like, no sauce. Jackson is like, three packs of Chick Fil A sauce.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Deep love. Need the sauce. If I'm gonna eat any type of chicken nugget French fry, we need the sauce.

[Kale Lowry]

I feel like people are either sauce people or, like, no sauce.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Creed eats no sauce on his fast food.

[Kale Lowry]

That's what I do too.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

So weird.

[Kale Lowry]

Like, I might just stroll through Chick Fil A one day and be like, oh, I'm feeling a kid's meal. Kids meal. No sauce. Don't put it on nuggets. Don't put it on fries. You should never let someone merge if they skipped the whole line. I'm letting somebody merge at all times because I've been the. That will pretend like, have you ever, like, seen a long line trying to go somewhere? And you're kind of like, I just don't want to do that today. So you pretend like you're lost. So you, like, slowed down.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

You're in your car. But, Lindsay, no one is looking to notice that you're lost.

[Kale Lowry]

Yeah, I've done it to, like, police before too. Like, if you're kind of, like, speeding and you try to look confused like you've never done this, so what do you do? Just keep speeding like you've never seen. Okay, I'm just thinking on my way to Pilates, there are cops that sit, like, on this one road. They sit in the same place every day. I don't know why I act like it's brand new. I'll just be zooming by my little Alexis, and I see my corner of my eye, and I'll be like, oh, I need to pretend like I'm, like, looking for something. Or I'll put on my blinker and, like, slow down. Like, I'm trying to, like, find my next stop. Do you know what I mean?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

No, Because Delaware only has two lanes. There's nowhere for me to go. I'm getting pulled over. I have 27 points on my license.

[Kale Lowry]

Oh, my God.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

There is no pretending.

[Kale Lowry]

Okay, well, I'm gonna let somebody merge because there have been times in Atlanta traffic where I'm just, like, I am absolutely not sitting 30 cars deep to make that turn. So I'm gonna go up, like, over halfway, and then I'm gonna pretend like nobody lets me over with my blinker on. So I'm gonna go up like a little bit more all the way until I get to the front. And then I'm just like.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Have you ever just like driven on the shoulder and then cut off?

[Kale Lowry]

Absolutely not. You've done that. Ah, you drove on the shoulder.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

You just drive on the show. Because why are you guys being now I have to go around you.

[Kale Lowry]

Oh my God.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

So just go on the shoulder cut.

[Kale Lowry]

With your kids in.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

No. Why would I ever do it with my kids in the car?

[Kale Lowry]

So if you're just riding dirty without your kids on the shoulder. I love that.

[Kristen]

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[Lindsay Chrisley]

I am Now I'm paying $20 less. I was with the General for my car insurance. I'm now with Progressive. And thank God, because this episode is brought to you by Progressive Insurance.

[Kale Lowry]

I when you got. We were talking about you because you told on yourself about the General. So Kristen told me after you graduated from the General to Progressive. She was like. I was like, hey, what are you doing? And she was like, oh, blah, blah, blah. By the way, Kale's not with the General anymore. She got Progressive. And I'm like, oh, wow.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

When I tell people that I like back when I had I just brand new that I switched. So for the last like couple years when I. When insurance has ever come up and it comes up more often than people think, and I say I'm with the General. Like, no one believes me.

[Kale Lowry]

I didn't believe you because I thought the General was for fraud.

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[Lindsay Chrisley]

No.

[Kale Lowry]

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[Lindsay Chrisley]

How much I was paying?

[Kale Lowry]

Yeah, I want to know everything.

[Kristen]

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[Kale Lowry]

You were paying $1500 a month for the General. Was it good insurance or like it.

[Kristen]

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[Lindsay Chrisley]

But now, but then towards the end, so I was with them a long time. I was with the General for years. So it went from fifteen hundred dollars a month. And then when I left the General, it was somewh 590 per month. And now I'm with Progressive, so it's like 570.

[Kale Lowry]

I love that you're saving the $20 because it really means a lot.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I could, you know, buy the boo boo twice a year.

[Kale Lowry]

I love that. Can you walk us back a little.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Bit as if it's a serious interview. Walk us back through.

[Kale Lowry]

I'm just wondering how you got down the slippery slope and ended at the General.

[Kristen]

Okay.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

To be fair, no, it wasn't. Let me tell like this is a true story and Kristen can back me up when I say this. I got rear ended by somebody back in 2021. 2022, 2021 I got rear ended by someone. And in Delaware you just have to have like the state minimum of insurance but like it doesn't even necessarily have to cover the full accident. So I get rear ended, I get no money from that person's insurance to fix my vehicle. I have to come out of pocket for all the things that happened. I had a rental for a month, nothing was covered and then State Farm dropped me because I was rear ended.

[Kristen]

Yes, they did refuse to renew you.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Oh okay, sorry, I misspoke. They refused to renew me after. Right after I got rearranged. And I want to say if I remember correctly, it was around this time of year, I think so, and the kids were with me when I got rear ended. And when you get rear ended, it's not your fault. Like I literally got rented. So I've been with the General for a long time and State Farm refused to renew me. Not they didn't drop me, they refused to renew me after that.

[Kale Lowry]

I have State Farm and have for many many years.

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[Kale Lowry]

Next. Not everything needs to be an Instagram story. Unfortunately, I feel like this is a hard lesson to learn.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

There was a time where everything was an Instagram story. Everything was a Snapchat. But I would agree that not everything is Instagram worthy.

[Kale Lowry]

I have not been on Instagram in seven weeks.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

What? What do you mean you haven't been on Instagram in seven weeks?

[Kale Lowry]

Like, I haven't posted anything on Instagram in seven weeks. It's like I'm not there.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

So who's posting for you?

[Kale Lowry]

Nobody.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Nothing's been posted, like, even on stories.

[Kale Lowry]

Correct.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

So you're not getting paid on Instagram?

[Kale Lowry]

No.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Why?

[Kale Lowry]

Well, we will be talking about that at a later date. Okay, next segment. Toxic trait testimony. We're gonna say if this is toxic or not. Whenever I buy snacks for my kids, I hide them and eat them myself. After they go to bed, I tell them the store was out of them. Toxic or normal? That is toxic.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I've never done that. But I could understand.

[Kale Lowry]

I get it. Because I do feel like if. If this person is a mom, I feel like anytime that I get something, and it was more when Jackson was probably around the ages of like three to five, if you have it, they want it.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah.

[Kale Lowry]

Right?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yes.

[Kale Lowry]

So I do understand it to some degree, but it's like, why are we buying snacks for kids and then eating them and not sharing?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Did you say they're for you then? Yeah, yeah, just say they're for you.

[Kale Lowry]

Okay. Do you have specific snacks in your house that you don't want your kids to eat?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

No.

[Kale Lowry]

That are yours?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

No.

[Kale Lowry]

I don't either.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I have snacks that I like that my kids don't like. So, yeah, just by nature, they're. They're mine. But, like, my kids can have that. Like, Elliot might be the only one that would eat that sense. It's like the little Sargentino. It's like either almonds and cheese and cranberries, or it's like cashews cheese and like, cran. Maybe cranberry. I don't know. It's like those little snack.

[Kale Lowry]

Yeah.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Trays. Or like coochie. Like a little mini. Like an adult lunchables type deal. Elliot and I are the only ones that eat those but, like, if Lincoln wanted one, he can have. Like, I don't care. Yeah.

[Kale Lowry]

I'm not, like, selfish like that. I'll just be like, yeah, you can have it. Even if it's the last one and.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

You only have one. So it might not make super sense to you, but, like, if you had multiple kids, could you understand, like, your kids hiding a certain snack in their room so that their siblings don't get it? My kids don't do that. They never have. But if they did, I could understand because there's so many of them.

[Kale Lowry]

I don't know. Because is it a snack that all of them would eat? Because then why is only one of them getting it? Because now we're playing who got to it first or who asked for it. Like, is it a. I mean, is it a regular household staple that you would have for all your kids and one kid hiding it?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Like, I'm trying to think of an example. So Elliot loves salad kits. Like, he loves a good. Mix it up. It comes all together, whatever. None of the other kids eat those. Lincoln is a Chobani yogurt connoisseur.

[Kale Lowry]

Jackson loves Chobani yogurt.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yes. So, like, Lincoln loves that. But, like, Lux and Creed don't eat that. So, like, I guess I sort of. I think what I'm trying to say is that I'm lucky that. That either. Like, mini muffins. All my kids eat those, Elliot. Down to the twins. But then there are certain things that I buy that I know only certain kids eat, and it just is fine.

[Kale Lowry]

Okay, but would you be upset if you saw that one of your kids took all the mini muffins to their room and nobody else had any?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah, probably. But I think also this could apply to people who have a set vacation, a set grocery day. I'll just shop whenever the shit's out. So, like, if one kid eats all the mini muffins, I'll go to the store the next day and go buy more mini muffins. Do you know what I mean? So, like, that has never affected us. Knock on wood and thankful for that.

[Kale Lowry]

Are your kids, like, the little bites eaters? Is that what you're talking about?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah.

[Kale Lowry]

Blueberry?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

No, chocolate chip. Chocolate chip. But Lux likes the brownie ones.

[Kale Lowry]

Jackson likes the chocolate chip and the brownie ones, but I think he's growing out of it. I bought a big packet. Sam's. I hate when I do that. I buy, like, a big pack of something that I know he loves, and then all of a sudden, he doesn't Want them anymore.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Sounds like me. Like, I'll just buy. Oh, I'm gonna eat all these yogurts. Eat none of them.

[Kristen]

That's on the ADHD hyper fixation.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

So maybe Jackson has it as well.

[Kale Lowry]

Oh, he definitely has it. If someone annoys me, I type out a whole response in my notes app, screenshot it and send it to my best friend instead of the person. Toxic or healthy venting.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I think that's healthy.

[Kale Lowry]

I think it's toxic because why are we as adults, why are we sending a response to somebody, to another adult instead of just addressing the other adult head on?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Not everything needs a reaction. Not everything needs a response. And maybe you just want to get this out, but, like, it doesn't. It's not enough for me to say something just yet. Or maybe it's been addressed several times. I'm not going to repeat myself. Maybe it's. Am I nitpicking? Can you look at this response and see if I'm nitpicking? Can you see if I'm overreacting? Is there anything I'm missing?

[Kale Lowry]

I'm just personally saying that if. If I am texting with someone and we all know I'm not a great texter, I'm not a great communicator in general. If I am on a text basis with someone, that means that I am probably good friends with that person. Okay, why would I then type a response that would be intended to send to that person, put it in my notes app, take a screenshot and then involve another person? To me, that's petty. I could understand in a situation, if we're talking business or if we're talking, like, I don't really know how to approach this because, you know, that's. We can use us as an example, like, that's my business partner and my friend. Like, how do I approach? I'm still probably not going to ask anybody.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I have sent messages to Kristen before sending them to make sure they're not emotionally charged. Like, is this coming from a place of logic or is this coming from a place of I'm heated and now I want to do hit below the belt. And she is flat out told me, like, for specific scenarios, like, I'm not emotion. She's not emotionally invested in it, so it's reading to her as really emotionally charged. And in order to remove that aspect, I need her because she's not emotionally invested in whatever the situation is.

[Kale Lowry]

I will tell you, I have before opened a text message that somebody has sent me and wanted to sit and And I will say this is, like, from a relational standpoint as far as a significant other get a text message. And number one, I might not just be ready to respond, but number two, I want to make sure that the message is not from an emotional place. So I will type it in my notes app and let it sit there and then maybe sleep on it, go back to it. It edit it, remove the emotionally charged parts, and then send it. But I'm not sending it to somebody else.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

No, I agree. I. And I'm not saying always send it to someone else, but I've definitely put responses in, like, a notes app just to. And I haven't always been that way. Sometimes I'll just fly off the handle. Used to. So usually I'm not like that anymore.

[Kale Lowry]

Okay. I turn the AC down super low at night because I sleep better cold. Whoever wrote this same. But I blame it on the kids touching the thermostat so my husband doesn't know it's me. Toxic or genius. Honestly, genius.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Toxic. Toxic all day toxic.

[Kale Lowry]

Genius.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

No, you can't blame the kids. Like, you can't. You can't blame, because then they're gonna get yelled at.

[Kale Lowry]

What the you're talking about?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

My kids don't even know that a thermostat exists.

[Kale Lowry]

Okay, well, like, if I did it to Jackson, because there's only one, it's like, it's obviously Jackson, but if this was your situation and you have seven kids, you could logically be like, oh, it was probably just one of the kids. You're never gonna find out. And that person that is your husband or your partner is probably going to be like, I'm not trying to weed through that many kids to figure out who did it. So to me, this is, like, a genius move.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Okay.

[Kale Lowry]

Do you feel like you sleep better cold at night?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah, I do sleep better cold. And I don't know, lately I've been colder than, like, normal. Like, even now, like, I'm in a ball because I'm freezing. I don't have a blankie. I've been cold lately, but sleeping better is always cold.

[Kale Lowry]

Okay.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Being cold is. Oh, is sleeping better. Whatever.

[Kale Lowry]

I like to have, like, comfy blanket on top of my quilt.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Oh, I do the opposite. I put barefoot dreams under my comforter.

[Kale Lowry]

Okay, so that. Because you like. Yeah. So. Yeah. You really are a blankie, girly. Yeah. Okay, got it. When I'm mad at my partner, I don't start fights. I just stop doing small things like washing his favorite hoodie or re. Snock stalking. His snacks until he notices. Toxic or strategic. I do feel like it's. I do feel like at the core of this, it's toxic, but it's stuff that I do.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I did it this week.

[Kale Lowry]

It's strategy. It's like, I'm not approaching you to let you know that I am upset for what actions that you did that caused me to be in this mental space or emotional space. So what I'm gonna do is I'm going to stop doing anything that I normally would do. Like, good morning, text. No, not happening.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I see what you're saying.

[Kale Lowry]

You know what I mean?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I said how I felt, didn't feel acknowledged. Now I stopped doing everything that you are used to me doing. But I said how I felt before I stopped.

[Kale Lowry]

I feel like at the core, all of those actions are toxic because it's almost like a punishment, right? It's like, okay, I am punishing you for X, Y, and Z. I feel.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Like it's a natural consequence.

[Kale Lowry]

I mean, I would agree, but a. A person who is. Let's say that it was on the flip and you had done something, and then that person stopped doing the things for you would. Do you feel like it was punishment or natural consequence?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Probably in the moment, I would feel like it's punishment. And then if we talked about it, I would be like, okay, like, now I understand the point that you were trying to make. Like, this is where I needed to appreciate you more. Or, like, just reciprocate your kind gestures. Because, like, it's the little things. I think throughout the days, people don't.

[Kale Lowry]

Realize that the little things add up to be the biggest, most impactful things.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Like, when Elijah and I were together, he would put my towel and washcloth out. Like, if he showered without me, he'd put my towel and washcloth out when he showers. So that when I went in there, it was already out. It's so small. But he did that. And I knew, like, if he didn't do that one day, that it was not good. Or, like, bring my coffee in the morning. You know what I mean? So, yeah, small things.

[Kale Lowry]

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[Kale Lowry]

Money, but if she doesn't want to pay me back fast enough, I start charging her interest by keeping small amounts of her stuff. When I see her so toxic or justified, I mean completely justified, like you owe me money and just like a bank, you're going to be charged interest. So I will be collecting that interest however I choose to collect that interest until you pay me back.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Is there like a middle ground where it's like, this is petty but I don't think it's toxic? Or are they one in the same?

[Kale Lowry]

I think it's kind of like one in the same. Because once you're in a. Once you're in the area of petty, it's like skewing more towards toxic, you know?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Okay. Because I don't know, I feel like, I do feel like that is a little justified because it's like, okay, you have something of mine. Now I'm holding something of yours.

[Kale Lowry]

I will say if you're in a situation to be loaning people money, I always say never loan people money if you want it back. Because true chances are if they're in a situation to need to borrow it in the first place, they're not going to be in a position to pay it back to you.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I agree.

[Kale Lowry]

Okay. When my friend offers to pay in the drive through, I always order extra so they cover it. Toxic or opportunistic?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Both.

[Kale Lowry]

I think it's both.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

It is.

[Kale Lowry]

Because you know what I learned growing up and you're gonna be like, well, I didn't learn that.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Counting me out before I'm counted in.

[Kale Lowry]

I always was told never if you know somebody else is paying for something, never order the most expensive thing on the menu and don't order something that you could not, not currently pay for yourself.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Growing up because my mom left me with other people. So often when they asked me what I wanted from somewhere, I would say nothing. I would say, I don't want anything. I'm not hungry. And I could. My stomach could be touching my back, but I was saying nothing. So I was never going to order extra because someone else was paying.

[Kale Lowry]

But do you have anybody that you feel like and don't say a name. Anybody that has. That is currently around you or has been around you that you would maybe go out to eat with and you're like, oh, I've got the bill. And they would just order the most expensive thing because they know you're gonna pay?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I'm not saying that that's never happened. If it has happened, nobody has said anything to me. Like, they're not, oh, I'm gonna get the lobster. Like, that's. I'm sure they've done it. They just haven't said it. Like, I. Not enough for me to notice that they purposefully did that. Does that make sense? Like, I'm sure it's happened. Oak Hill's got it. So I'm gonna order whatever I want. You know what I mean?

[Kale Lowry]

Yeah. So I just hate that. I think you're 100. Correct. I think it's toxic and opportunistic. Okay. We have confessions. Okay. The first one. I purposely put fake appointments on our shared family calendar so my husband won't schedule golf on my days off.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Oh.

[Kale Lowry]

Here'S the thing. Golf, as much of a cool sport as I feel like it is, I feel like, number one, golf is a lifetime sport. So men justify, from the time they are young lads until the time that they're about to die, why they need to go out and play seven hours of golf with their guy friends.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

It makes me upset that certain people have to lie. I don't think lie is the right. Like, go through that with their partner. If you can't have these productive conversations with your partner about stuff like that, like, this is my day off. Please don't schedule golf on my day off. And he cannot find another time to schedule golf. I feel like, yes, it's sort of funny, but, like, it's really not funny. Like, it almost reminds me of the, like, that conversation that we had about, like, sexual acts for. What was it sexual. It was, like, sexual doing.

[Kale Lowry]

Yeah, yeah.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Offering. And I don't care how. Like, people were very upset by what I said. I don't think it's funny. But I also have a background of sexual assault happening to me. So, like, I. For Me, it's not funny. I don't. I will never think it's funny. And nobody can justify it to me. Like, I'm not watching the kids. I'm not going to have you watch the kids because I gave you a blow job. Like, that's not. It's giving that. If you cannot talk to your partner about that, like, this is my only day off or these are my two days off. You can schedule golf on one of my days off, but please don't do it on both. Like, if you can't have those conversations, I think there's a bigger problem that is not being addressed.

[Kale Lowry]

Well, at the root of this, number one, it's dishonest. There is a lack of communication, because this is to avoid communication regarding him wanting to play golf and her having her day off.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Like, we. There should be a way to be.

[Kale Lowry]

A way to do. To do both. And I think that that's where relationships really start getting up. Like me even thinking about putting a fake appointment on a shared family calendar. Well, because where am I going then?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

You have to think about, well, what if he didn't schedule golf and you have these fake appointments on the calendar now you have to lie about where you're going, like, about where you're going, or lie that you canceled it. I don't know. I just feel like that's weird.

[Kale Lowry]

I don't like it. I still have my ex's location on my phone from when we dated. He doesn't know. I check it when I'm bored and anonymously tell whoever he is currently dating. Number one, why are we talking to who he's currently dating?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah, well, that was my first. Like, number one, is it funny that you still have your ex's location? Yes. But why are you reaching out to where? To who he's dating now? Like, that is a little too far.

[Kale Lowry]

Okay, I will tell you. I had an ex's location on my phone for like, two years after we broke up.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

That doesn't. I think that's funny. It's like you're not doing anything with it.

[Kale Lowry]

And. Well, I was. I was just making sure we weren't gonna.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Oh, like, not running into it.

[Kale Lowry]

Yeah, like, we would go to some of the same places. So I was like, oh, well, this is like a good way not to run into to someone. Like.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

So, ladies, check your location. Make sure that you're not sharing it with your ex. But men leave yours on.

[Kale Lowry]

Yes. Okay. I tell my in laws I can't bring the kids over because they're sick I really don't want to deal with them and order doordash in peace.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

What? Okay, okay.

[Kale Lowry]

She said okay. I just feel like the root of all of these problems are just lies, you know?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

What do you think is like the most deceitful, like lie that you've told in a relationship? Like regard, like similar to these.

[Kale Lowry]

I mean, I wouldn't, I've never done this.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Me neither.

[Kale Lowry]

I'm just like, will, you're not golfing. And he'll be like, why? Because I don't want you to.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

You know what reminds me of that? That Morgan Wallen song. Thinking thought you should know. And he's like, met a new girl. She lets me fish whenever I want to.

[Kale Lowry]

Yeah.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

What do you mean? Like, why can't you fish whenever you want to? Like mostly whenever you want. Like within reason. Like, I don't understand. Like, why do we have to lie and like say you can't. Like if it's within reason, what are we lying about?

[Kale Lowry]

I. I feel like the golf thing.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Excessive can be excessive.

[Kale Lowry]

You would understand if you were with somebody who was a golfer. But when I tell you will golf so much and not my husband anymore, thank God. But he golfs every day on the weekends, every other weekend. Like when he doesn't have Jackson, which I'm appreciative of because he takes care of like the things that he wants to do when he doesn't have him so that he can give individual time when he does. But also he hits the links like just a couple days a week. He's just out there golfing. And if I was married to that man, that would just not work for me. Like the you think you're doing.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I don't. It's hard for me to say because like when I was with Elijah for I guess almost three and a half years, I you not. I have no idea what that man did. I have to this day, I don't know what he did on a day to day basis. He could have been golfing 18 holes or whatever you guys call it. He could have been fiddle around on the motorcycle. I have no, no idea what he was doing.

[Kale Lowry]

I just feel like golf and, and people who are listening to this, you will understand if you have a significant other that is hyper fixated on golf and you want to have family time or you just want your partner like separate from whatever the that they do on the links. I feel like that's okay. Like you know where.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

You know what I think it is like specifically about like I'll say golfing.

[Kale Lowry]

It'S such a long game and that's the problem.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

But I think it's the problem with women engulfing is it's the women that have small children that are having the struggles with it. It's not people with older kids like Jackson, Lincoln, Elliot. Like, we're not going to complain. It's the one. It's the time when we have small children and we're already burnt out. And the women and the men are both. It's those types. It's like you have to schedule out your golf and it can't be every week because it's such a long game. And like, I want you to do something you love, but right now we have toddlers. You cannot go golfing for eight hours a day.

[Kale Lowry]

Yeah, like, what does this look like?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Like I'm burnout too. Do I get a full day? Like, at that point it's a conversation of, okay, if we're looking at a 30 day month and we have toddlers and we, there's only two days off a week, we gotta figure this out. Where we're getting family time and you're getting your needs met and you're having time by yourself. But like, it's hard when they're small children. And I think that's what.

[Kale Lowry]

Because now it wouldn't bother me. Like, Jackson's almost 13 years old, so he's either with him golfing or I can take him to watch football, or I can take him to go fish.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Or even if you went to lunch with the girls, you could take him.

[Kale Lowry]

Correct.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

So, like, it's not as big of a situation.

[Kale Lowry]

We have a problem with men thinking that women going to the grocery store is a break. Because I had this conversation with a stay at home mom the other day that her husband stayed home with the kids for her to go to the grocery store. And immediately when she came back in the door, her kids, little kids were all grabbing for her. She's trying to carry in groceries or whatever and she's like, can you please either help with the groceries or help with the kids? And he's like, you were just gone for two hours.

[Sponsor Voice]

You just had a break.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yep, that was me and my marriage. It was like I could not get out of the house fast enough when I was breastfeeding Lincoln to go to the grocery store. Like that was. And I would be like, I don't think that's normal. It was. He was texting me the whole time I'm in the store. When are you coming back? When are you coming back? When Are you coming back? But it was a break and it's.

[Kale Lowry]

Like as soon as I get the cream cheese. Shut up.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I need the lactose milk.

[Kale Lowry]

Yeah, like come on. I just. No, I don't think that that's a break.

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[Kale Lowry]

Well, I have seen so many men and I don't know if it's common everywhere or if it's just the south. But it's like okay, you went and had your hair done so that was your you time. Or you went and had your nails done so that was your you time and you got your car washed so that was your you time. And it's like these are just like, standard things for me to be able to exist in this world. And while I understand I don't need to have my nails done to, like, exist here, and I don't need to have my hair done to exist here. Like, I want to feel like a normal human being despite the fact, like, I. I understand I'm a mom, but, like, I want to be put together.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

But if you didn't do those things now, it's. You never put time into how you look.

[Kale Lowry]

Yes.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

But when you do it solely to be presentable.

[Kale Lowry]

Yes.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Then it's a break.

[Kale Lowry]

And they don't mind when they're looking at you and you have that stuff.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Done, but they don't want to sit through you getting it done.

[Kale Lowry]

Correct.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Sounds about right.

[Kale Lowry]

Okay. The next one is when someone takes my parking spot at Target. I go inside and move things in their cart when they're not looking. First of all, how did you stalk somebody enough to know who they're, like, who their car was?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Like, that's excessive. Like, I do not give a.

[Kale Lowry]

Have you ever gone into a store, though, and been, like, in the same section with somebody and put something in a cart because you thought it was yours, and then you start, like, wheeling it down the thing and you're like, oh, that's somebody else's cart? No, because I've done that a lot of times.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Done that. I did go to a restaurant with my sister last week, and I was, like, talking to somebody, and I, like, touched their chest, thinking it was somebody else, and I start talking, and then I look over, and it wasn't the person I thought it was, and that was really embarrassing.

[Kale Lowry]

You just touched a random stranger?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah, I was, like, touching his chest. I was like, oh, my God. Look, look, look, look. And I'm, like, pounding this. This, like, restaurant manager's chest. I'm like, look, I am so sorry. Yeah, like that. So that's happened to me last week.

[Kale Lowry]

I love that for you.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah.

[Kale Lowry]

Oh. I kind of feel like this is somebody that said this about something that happened to me. My neighbor reported me for not bringing in my trash can fast enough. Kristen wrote this, and it's about me.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Did you write about her?

[Kristen]

No.

[Kale Lowry]

Oh, okay. It says, my neighbor reported me for not bringing my trash can fast enough. Now I move mine right next to their driveway every week so they have to see it.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Okay.

[Kale Lowry]

You said okay?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

No.

[Kale Lowry]

My HOA will send you a letter so quick. Honey. Like, if your trash can is out there longer than 12 hours, you're getting reported, and they are sending you A picture of where you had it. It and why it wasn't in. Because you cannot take vacations in my neighborhood. You cannot go on work trips. You cannot be a mom.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

To be fair, when you live in that caliber of a neighborhood and you're paying those prices for those homes, I would feel some type of way if my neighbor's house looked like. Because I'm not paying to live here for your neighbor. For your. For my neighbor to look like. Like, I'm just.

[Kale Lowry]

No, I get that. But I'm saying, okay, for example, we had fish three times this past week.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Okay, that's a lot. Be careful. Be careful of your mercury intake.

[Kale Lowry]

I think I'm fine. I know somebody who ate tuna for like two years and like every meal for two years and they didn't get mercury poisoning. So I think I'm good. I ate, or we ate fish three times last week. My trash runs on Tuesday morning. I came here on Sunday. I don't have anybody else to take care of my garbage cans. So shouldn't I. I'm paying for the service for every week. So shouldn't I have been allowed within my own right on my lawn where I have to put my trash? Shouldn't I have been allowed to wheel it down there on Sunday before I left and then get it back into my garage on Thursday? I'm not doing that every week, but like, like, I'm traveling. So now there's rank fish sitting in my garage for two weeks because I can't put my thing out there or they'll find me?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I don't. I've never lived in a neighborhood with an hoa. So, no.

[Kale Lowry]

Tell me if it's fair.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I was about to ask is if there's a middle of the road here is. Do you know who is in charge of the hoa? Could you email them and say, I'm.

[Kale Lowry]

Going to do that every time. I'm sorry, I'm not okay. If you think that I am emailing them my itinerary for where I'm going for work.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Well, I was just saying, like, maybe in a neighborhood like that, like, is there like a collective, like group chat or like an email chain that you could say, is anyone willing to do this? Or, hey, I'm going out of town, please don't find me.

[Kale Lowry]

I mean, there is a community Facebook, but we have discussed. And now you're making me feel like it's my problem. I don't want to be on the community Facebook.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Sometimes you don't have a choice.

[Kale Lowry]

I don't Like. Like talking to people. I don't want to be on a community Facebook hearing all the drama about people.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

You can use an assistant.

[Sponsor Voice]

No.

[Kale Lowry]

I don't want anybody to have to be on it. I don't want anybody to have to be subjected to it. I just want to be a single mom living in my house that I pay for, and I want to be able to take my trash can down there on Sunday because I'm going on a work trip and pick it up.

[Sponsor Voice]

And bring it back up on Thursday.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I understand.

[Kale Lowry]

Okay.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yes.

[Kale Lowry]

Because I don't have extra hands. And here's the other thing. If you got a problem with my trash cans, then why don't you wheel it up there?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Well, that's what you're getting signed for. Their time.

[Kale Lowry]

No.

[Sponsor Voice]

Nobody's.

[Kale Lowry]

No.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

And then it stays.

[Kristen]

Yes.

[Kale Lowry]

And I'm like, whoever.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Where does the money go?

[Kale Lowry]

To the hoa.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

But the HOA is run by people that live there.

[Sponsor Voice]

Yeah.

[Kale Lowry]

Actually a management company.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I'm shocked that if it is a management company and there's an HOA and there's fees, that you cannot ask them to do it for you while you're in the work trip, because that is what it. Because where is the HOA money going then?

[Kale Lowry]

Back to the community for them to continue to ride around, to continue to tell on me.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

If you're paying a monthly HOA fee, it should include when you're on vacation, bringing your trash cans up. That's in my. That's my opinion. That is my opinion.

[Kale Lowry]

How about for the person who turned me in? Who you are.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

When are HOA elections coming up?

[Kale Lowry]

I will. Are you suggesting for me to run?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah.

[Kale Lowry]

I will never be on an HOA board in my entire life.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

But you'll be more flexible and people will love you.

[Kale Lowry]

No, because the flexibility of me being on there would be an inconvenience for me having to deal with other people's. I don't even want to deal with my own.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I just think that if you are having this problem, other people are having this problem.

[Kale Lowry]

No, the other people are the problem because they're the ones who turned me in. And I know who did it.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

It. Oh, charge them. Find them.

[Kale Lowry]

And also, the people who did it have asked me for every person that I use in my house, my lawn care. Who do you use? Give them that. Who's your housekeeper? Give them that. They clean their house. I'm like, and then you turned me in for my trash cans because I was out of town.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

That's really, really upsetting.

[Kristen]

It's very personal.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

This is really upsetting.

[Kale Lowry]

His is really upsetting. No.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Okay.

[Kale Lowry]

When my husband makes me mad, I wash his clothes, but forget dad detergent, so they come out smelling worse than fort. No, See, I couldn't do this for multiple purposes. Number one, I don't want that kind of stank in my drawers. Like, I just stink. I can't. I can't.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

She doesn't put detergent in her.

[Kale Lowry]

Yeah, okay. Do we think it's weird?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Like, I. That is like, you're psychotic. Yeah.

[Kale Lowry]

Like giving malicious.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah, yeah. Like, maybe because I've gotten softer over the years. Like, when you love someone like, so much, like, even when you're so mad, like, you're not gonna wash their clothes with no detergent. Like, at the point that you're doing that, just don't wash them at all. Like, literally.

[Kale Lowry]

Literally just don't wash them at all. Like, you're doing yourself disservice because you don't know.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

He doesn't know what the. He doesn't understand what's going on. He doesn't understand, like, just don't wash them.

[Kale Lowry]

I'm like, how hard is it to just throw, like, a tide pod in? Like, I'm just.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

No, but she's trying to. Like, she's.

[Kale Lowry]

I know, but, like, can't we figure out another malicious way?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Maliciously don't wash it. Yeah, like, you're doing more.

[Kale Lowry]

Not malicious intent. I kill's. Like, I don't wash clothes at all, so I really don't care.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Couldn't tell you the last time I did that.

[Kale Lowry]

Tell you. All right, we have a segment that you're unaware of.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Okay.

[Kale Lowry]

It's called petty court submissions. The first person says, my husband will drink the last of the iced coffee, put the empty ice tray back in the freezer, and then act confused. When I call him out, he says he didn't want to fill it because I thought you were about to use it. Please, please judge this man.

[Kristen]

Okay.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Please judge this man. What is wrong with y'? All? Like, the fact that I'm scrolling on my for you page and I'm constantly being told that I'm the problem. And y' all write like this. Every thing in here to me is absolutely insane.

[Kale Lowry]

It's a lot. But I'm in courtesy, though.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

No, like that. No, truly, I'm judging him. That's so up. He is the problem. Like, what do you mean? You were about to use it, but it's empty. So you put an empty ice tray container back in there because you thought your wife was about to use it, but it's empty. So what is she using an empty. Like. Like, what the are you talking about?

[Kale Lowry]

You know, a lot of things that have been going on in this episode, collectively, from start to almost finish, is just a lack of common courtesy. Like, I can't imagine being married to a person and not wanting to give that person, like, more courtesy than anybody else in this world.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

But I'm just trying to think, like, in all my relationships, maybe I was the problem, but I didn't do, like, this.

[Kale Lowry]

It's malicious intent.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

No, true. Like.

[Kale Lowry]

Like, I could never think of, like, one time in my life that I would put an empty ice tray back in the freezer and then act confused when being called out. Like, yeah, I know I did that. If I did it, like, why are we acting confused?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

It's kind of like with the cops.

[Kale Lowry]

You know, like speeding. Oh, you know, it's like acting confused.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Right. You know, it's like weaponized, incompetent, sort of. I'm trying to think. Can you think of any times that I've done something like this? Like, I'm a little weird, but not like that.

[Kale Lowry]

I can think of the one time, remember you had gone through something and we were thinking about how we could, like, do something to someone's car.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

But, like, I'm trying to think of, like, intentionally. Do people not think about that? Sugar in the gas tank is a common thing. Yeah, but I'm just thinking of. But I'm thinking of, like, everyday like this.

[Kale Lowry]

Yes.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I do not do you. You're married. You're basically married and you're married. Do you guys think about doing like this? I'm not going out if you pissed me off to this level. I am not going out of my way to make. Create more work for myself to, like, do like this. This man is like you. What was the per. Like? My kids do that put. That's like someone put this much milk back in the fridge the other day.

[Kale Lowry]

That's a good way to put it. This is childlike behavior.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

It's childl behavior.

[Kale Lowry]

Yeah, I agree. The next person says, my sister keeps stealing my glass Tupperware every time she comes over for dinner. She'll pack. She'll pack leftovers like she's at a restaurant, I told her to buy her own, and now she's saying I'm stingy. Am I wrong? No, the you aren't wrong. I also changed all of my Tupperware over in. I think it was somewhere from the time that Jackson Was born to maybe 2015. Like, somewhere in that time frame. I have not had any plastic Tupperware. I only use glass Tupperware. Nobody is taking my glass Tupperware home. Actually, no one come to my house. But if you do, you're not taking my glass Tupperware home. If you want to take home leftovers, then you will be taking it home in a Ziploc bag.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I went to the airport two weeks. I don't even know what day it is. Like, a week and a half ago. And Siomata made rice and beans and chicken, and she put it in my glass Tupperware and sent me to the airport with it because I was gonna eat at the airport. Court girl. I'll have you know that I washed that at Sterling's house, put it right in her dishwasher, and flew back home with my Tupperware. Because I don't play about my Tupperware. Okay? It was washed, ready to go. I'm bringing it. I'm bringing it home. Like, I don't play about my Tupperware. No, you. It's expensive, and you want the whole set because you're gonna look for a size and your sister's gonna have it.

[Kale Lowry]

Yep.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

You need to go home with a Ziploc bag, just like you said.

[Kale Lowry]

So I buy, like, the Tupperware sets that have the silicone lid things on the top.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Speaking of, I'm due for a replacement because all of the silicone ones have broken at this point.

[Kale Lowry]

Well, those are the ones that I buy, and they have, like, the different color lids. But to your point, they all come in a set. So it's like, if you think that you're taking one of my pieces of my set anywhere, you're not. If you want to take leftovers home, then just get a Ziploc bag. I don't care. I'm not going to be stingy about a Ziploc bag, but don't up my Tupperware.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Have you ever seen, like, at a function, people buy or they use, like, the compartmental. What is like the. No, it's like. Like the Styrofoam to go to containers and that it like, maybe like a family reunion or something like that. That's what they're using. So that way if someone wants to take leftovers at the end, it's already in a, like, a to go situation, and you're not using reusable stuff. That's also an alternative.

[Kale Lowry]

That's an alternative. But also, I have heard people, on Thanksgiving, one of my girlfriends Told me that her grandmother cooks, like every Thanksgiving and she sends out a message and everybody brings their own Tupperware.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Makes sense to me.

[Kale Lowry]

For leftovers.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah, makes sense to me. So I think that's a great solution. And now with the holidays coming up, now, you know, bring your own Tupperware. Bring your own styrofoam container. You're not taking our Tupperware. And that's the end.

[Kale Lowry]

Okay, the last one before foul play. My roommate lights my thirty dollar anthropology candle every single night like it's a Walmart three wick. I confronted her and she said, candles are meant to be enjoyed. Judge Judy wouldn't stand for this. So I'm bringing it here. And absolutely you should bring it here. Because if anybody is lighting my three wick candle, I don't care where it comes from. Unless it's me and I'm enjoying the smell. Don't.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

No. If we're roommates.

[Kale Lowry]

This is not roommates.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

She just said that.

[Kale Lowry]

I understand, but did her roommate buy the 30 anthropology candle or did she.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

And don't have it in a communal space?

[Kale Lowry]

No, I'm disagreeing. I am disagreeing with that.

[Sponsor Voice]

If we share a kitchen.

[Kale Lowry]

Just because the that's in the kitchen doesn't mean that it belongs to you.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Are y' all gonna say anything?

[Kale Lowry]

No, because they're in agreement with me. That's.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

They're not in agreement. They're not.

[Kale Lowry]

No. He'll. That's like saying, okay in the kitchen.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Like, I.

[Kale Lowry]

What about her? What about the Tupperware? What if it was her roommate's Tupperware and that other one took the Tupperware somewhere else? Would you be pissed off?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

A candle is just not the same.

[Kale Lowry]

You've got. You can't.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Are we using our own toothpaste in the bathroom, too?

[Kale Lowry]

Why would we be sharing toothpaste?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I never. I've never had a roommate, so I don't know. You mean with roommates?

[Kale Lowry]

Yeah, yeah, but, like, because this. This person.

[Kristen]

And we made a list of, like, what did we need? And we split the list. So, like, I bought the pots and pans for everybody to use, but then when they them up and didn't clean them, I bought new pots and pans and no one was allowed to touch them.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

But like, a candle to me, like.

[Kale Lowry]

Because I feel like if you've never had a roommate, it's like you're both paying the same amount to be in the same place. You have your individual space, but then you have your communal space. And maybe she does have a 30 anthropology candle.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

And the 31 needs to go in her room.

[Kale Lowry]

Well, maybe she has one in her room, but maybe she also is like, well, when I'm cooking my dinner or I'm having my glass of wine, I want to light my 30 anthropology candle.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

And go pull it out from your room. You don't need to leave it in a communal space if you're only going to light it when you're using it. But if you leave a thirty dollar anthropology candle in a communal space all the time, I'm gonna think that it's fair game for me to light it. If you do not want the roommate to use it, keep it in your room until you're going to bring it out. To intentionally use it is my.

[Kale Lowry]

Well, then you must be a better sharer than me because I. No, I would not want anybody to light I don't care if it's Capri blue. I don't care if it's anthropology. I don't care if it's a volcano candle. I don't care if it's Bath and Body Works. If it's my candle, I don't want you using it it.

[Kristen]

And that's why Lindsay doesn't do roommates, period.

[Kale Lowry]

And on that note, we have foul play.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Please keep me anonymous. But when my husband and I were dating, we were in the shower together at his mom's house. She wasn't home, thank God. Obviously getting down and dirty. He was two fingers in and I had to fart. I thought it was going to be a small like, but indeed it was not a small I on this man's hand. I was mortified. But it didn't bother him too much because we have have been married for almost nine years. He still randomly brings up the time I on him. Love the podcast. And both of you, sorry, are we.

[Kale Lowry]

Thinking that it was like one in the pink and one in the stink or like, how did the fart happen? You know what I mean?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Wouldn't that just sucks? Like, that was like it's giving like kale on the leather couch and blaming my farts on the couch. You know what I mean? Like, it's just.

[Kale Lowry]

Wait, what?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I told you this. Didn't I tell no car.

[Kristen]

Oh, did she do a ship center years.

[Kale Lowry]

Wait, refresh my memory on the.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I don't know what I ate that night, but I was on a leather couch and we were having sex and it was just like fart after fart and like, I don't know why that happened, but like, it's giving that like.

[Kale Lowry]

Like, so did you just pretend like it was, like, the fraction of the couch? Okay.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

And it sucks because you're like, what am I.

[Kale Lowry]

Like, what am I supposed to do?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

And it's so embarrassing. So, like, I get it. You know what I mean?

[Kale Lowry]

So you just. They kept going in, and then you just kept farting. Wait, can you tell me, like, how that conversation happened? Like I said, wait, what?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Because I didn't want to talk about it. Like, what?

[Kale Lowry]

But how did they think it was the couch and not because it was you farting?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Leather couches can be noisy.

[Kale Lowry]

Okay, so you just assumed they thought it was the leather couch?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I said that was the couch.

[Kristen]

Oh, yeah.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Okay.

[Kale Lowry]

So that's what I'm asking you.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

And I would just, like, shift my body. So what did you say?

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[Lindsay Chrisley]

And then after the first time when I was like, that was the couch.

[Kale Lowry]

Yeah.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I would just shift my body every time. So then it seems like it was a rough time for me. That was like, 2016, maybe.

[Kale Lowry]

2016. What was killed doing? Oh, I know who it was. I was trying to do a timeline in my brain. And on that note, that's all we have time for today. If you have not followed us on Instagram, please make sure you follow us there. If you have not subscribed to the show, you can do that from any podcast app. Wherever you get your pods, always first at Podcast One. We hope you guys have a great week and we'll talk to you soon.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

See ya.

[Kale Lowry]

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[Lindsay Chrisley]

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[Kale Lowry]

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[Lindsay Chrisley]

You're welcome.