ENCORE Vegas, Vitamins & Vows

Summary

Coffee Convos with Kail Lowry and Lindsie Chrisley

Episode: ENCORE Vegas, Vitamins & Vows
Release Date: December 25, 2025

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Episode Overview

In this lively encore episode, Kail and Lindsie settle in for authentic girl-talk, digging into their latest adventures with vitamins and self-care, debates on parenting, fun gossip around game nights in Vegas, changing friendships, and frank discussions about family and marriage. The duo fields listener questions about friendship, co-parenting, and complex relationship dilemmas, all colored by their trademark mix of humor, honesty, and real-life experience as reality TV veterans and mothers.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Vitamins, Supplements & Self-Care

[01:37–03:19]

• Lindsie shares her new supplement routine, inspired by her fiancé David's "tackle box full of vitamins," and notes her hair health improves so much she only needs minimal extensions.
• Kail is also starting a regimen, mentioning struggles with keeping pills visible without creating clutter. She notes her anemia as a motivation.
• Both discuss skepticism about supplement effectiveness. Kail admits, "I heard that vitamins are all a scam though." ([02:50] - Kail)
• Gummies and adaptogens: Lindsie confides she only takes gummy ashwagandha at night, uncertain of pronunciation, and Kail brings up lion’s mane. Both agree even a placebo effect is welcome if it produces well-being.
• Notable Quote:
  • "I don't care if they are. If it makes me feel better, I'm doing it." ([02:55] - Kail)

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2. Quality One-on-One Parenting & Vacation Choices

[03:20–08:30]

• Kail and Lindsie dissect a Parents.com article about families giving children solo trips, and the judgment that often follows.
• Kail gives personal examples of sometimes only bringing certain children on trips, due to schedules, interest, or practical logistics (like age-appropriateness for Disney).
  • "There are reasons why people do this... You're trying to create one-on-one time." ([03:37] - Kail)
• Both discuss the emotional and financial practicality of not always including every child in every family activity, emphasizing focusing on children’s individual interests.
• Lindsie adds: With kids of different ages/interests, “It's better to take two trips, do one with the Littles and then one with the Bigs.” ([06:08])
• Discussion acknowledges internet criticism but lands on “do what’s right for your family.”

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3. Sleep Training Debate

[08:32–11:42]

• Lindsie introduces a viral TikTok arguing sleep training is harmful for kids under 1, setting off a nuanced discussion.
• Kail is adamantly against "cry it out":
  • “I am not a fan of the cry it out method at all. I don't love. It stresses me out. It stresses the kids out.” ([09:40] - Kail)
  • She used a non-cry-it-out sleep coach (“rest is best”) with her son Creed, focusing on gentle soothing instead.
• Both share that their eldest sons co-slept as toddlers and never used cribs, comparing their “Velcro” attachment parenting approaches.
• Memorable Moment:
  • “They’re only little for so long.” ([11:26] - Kail, on missing the co-sleeping days)

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4. UNO at Vegas Casinos, Game Nights & Friendship

[14:10–17:23]

• Kail texts Lindsie about UNO being added to Vegas casino game tables—sparking both laughter and mock plans for a Vegas girls’ trip (“I would go to Vegas just for Uno!” [14:30] - Kail).
• The pair jokes about UNO rules (discussion of “stacking” mechanics), and see the stunt as clever casino marketing.
• Nostalgic throwback: Kail’s UNO-themed birthday parties for her kids, and dreams of hosting UNO pop-up events across the country.
• Sidebar: The “kitty gang meetup” and idea of garage games and camping tournaments.

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5. Giving Friend Advice & Navigating Changing Dynamics

[17:26–22:37]

• Listener question: Left out of a best friend group trip due to financial assumptions—should she be upset?
• Kail and Lindsie both validate feeling hurt, agreeing it's wrong for friends to decide someone’s financial limits.
  • “You could still invite her and she has the right to say, yes I can go or no I can’t." ([18:28] - Kail)
• They discuss complexities and emotion in evolving friendship hierarchies. Lindsie admits feeling replaced can “piss [her] off,” while Kail finds it just “weird.”
• Memorable Exchange:
  • Lindsey: “Does it piss you off if your bestie becomes best friends with someone else?”
  • Kail: “It doesn't piss me off, but it's weird... Like, would you love me if I was a worm?” ([19:01] - 19:06])

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6. Co-Parenting Challenges: Rules in Two Households

[29:37–33:34]

• Listener dilemma: How to enforce “groundings” or consequences in split households when co-parents don’t cooperate and have different standards.
• Both agree ideally, consequences should be upheld in both homes, but Kail notes, “You can't control what [the other parent] does.”
• Lindsie shares her own custody setup—removing privileges (like a phone) across both homes for consistency, but recognizes how “double jeopardy” can happen.
• Discussion recognizes no one-size-fits-all solution, and spotlights the recurring chaos in blended family co-parenting.

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7. True Crime Tangent: The Dentist Wife Poisoning Story

[33:36–43:12]

• Kail and Lindsie get invested in a current case: Colorado dentist allegedly poisoning his wife’s protein shake with cyanide.
• They marvel at the logistics (where does one buy cyanide? Should you use a burner phone?) and debate killers’ mindsets versus divorce.
• Notable Quotes:
  • “In today’s society, you can’t get away with shit like this.” ([36:07] - Kail)
  • “Go consult an attorney and see what worst case scenario is so you can come up with a game plan.” ([41:32] - Kail)
• Lindsie highlights that staying together “for the kids” is harmful if safety or well-being is at stake.

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8. Listener Questions: Divorce & Immigration

[44:44–49:24]

• Listener Gigi asks for advice: After years of her husband’s alcoholism, financial struggles, and disrespect, she feels trapped due to ongoing immigration paperwork tied to him.
• Both hosts strongly advise consulting with both a family and an immigration attorney to safely plan her exit.
• Kail’s practical wisdom:
  • “Go speak to an attorney to see what that looks like for you. Especially if you do have issues with legal status.” ([46:59])
• Both reflect on their own divorce decision points, with Lindsie wishing she’d left years earlier, and Kail urging listeners to “get your ducks in a row” before making a move.

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9. Hilarious “Foul Play” Story: Karma Strikes

[50:10–52:34]

• Listeners share a wild story: A cheating ex burns himself by mishandling Nair for private grooming while sneaking around sending explicit pictures.
• Lindsie and Kail laugh about unsolicited “dick pics,” marveling at the pervasiveness and awkwardness of such online behavior.
• Memorable Quotes:
  • “He couldn't even walk normally. It was slow and monkey like. I couldn't do anything but laugh.” ([51:26] - Listener)
  • “I will never understand dick pics.” ([51:35] - Lindsie)

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Notable Quotes & Timestamps

• "I don't care if they are. If it makes me feel better, I'm doing it."
  ([02:55] - Kail, on supplements)
• “There is a fakery bakery around here.”
  ([01:22] - Kail, on being done with fake people)
• "I don't see anything wrong with this so long as it's under the right reasons.”
  ([03:37] - Kail, on solo kid vacations)
• "They're only little for so long."
  ([11:26] - Kail, on cherishing the co-sleeping years)
• "It's giving. Where's my hug at?"
  ([27:59] - Kail, roasting Toyota pickup trucks)

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Important Segment Timestamps

• Vitamin journeys & supplement clutter [01:37–03:19]
• Solo kid vacations discussion [03:20–08:30]
• Sleep training & attachment parenting [08:32–11:42]
• UNO in Vegas, casino games & garage tournaments [14:10–17:23]
• Friend trip drama & best-friend dynamics [17:26–22:37]
• Co-parenting, punishments in two homes [29:37–33:34]
• Dentist poisoning true crime story [33:36–43:12]
• Listener: Divorce, legal status, immigration [44:44–49:24]
• Foul Play: Nair mishap & unsolicited photos [50:10–52:34]

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Summary Tone

Playful and candid, the episode weaves together personal anecdotes, pop culture happenings, and listener questions with the hosts’ unfiltered perspectives—always supportive of others, sometimes sassy with each other, and constantly relating everything back to the realities of modern womanhood, motherhood, and friendship.

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For New Listeners

If you’ve never listened to Coffee Convos before, this episode highlights Kail and Lindsie’s mix of vulnerability, humor, and unvarnished talk about the highs and lows of life in the spotlight, always anchored by practical wisdom and real-life “girl talk.”

Transcript

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[Kale Lowry]

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[Lindsey Chrisley]

I hate gift giving and receiving.

[Kale Lowry]

Receiving gifts is so weird. What do you say? Thank you.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

This is Coffee Convos with Kale Lowry and Lindsey Chrisley. I really want you to be in your feels, Kale.

[Kale Lowry]

That does not interest me whatsoever.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

I feel very attacked by you. A spirited discussion about motherhood, friendship, family and life in the public eye. I'm just not with the fakery anymore.

[Kale Lowry]

There's a fakery bakery around here.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Here's Kale and Lindsey. Good morning, Kitty Cat. Welcome to Coffee Combos podcast. How are you?

[Kale Lowry]

Good morning. Do you have hair extensions in?

[Lindsey Chrisley]

I do.

[Kale Lowry]

Oh, fantastic. Yeah, they look great.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

You know that this is the first time ever I've been on like a vitamin journey, just like in general in life, just taking like all these supplements. I went from taking no supplements to like everything. And my hair was so healthy that only had to put one row of extensions in.

[Kale Lowry]

Oh, I love that. I am taking a probiotic at the moment. Neutrophil. And then I'm working on getting some sort of vitamin situated like a regimen for myself. The problem is that if I don't have them at my desk or next to my bed, like my nightstand where I can see them, I can't put them in a drawer. I have to have them out. But I also hate the way clutter looks. That's where I'm struggling. I'm trying to find like a good vitamin regimen because I am anemic and whatever. But that's the goal is to get on a good vitamin regimen.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

You know what really started me on that is that David takes so many vitamins. I felt like I was not doing enough for myself. I kind of felt FOMO so many vitamins a day that he has a tackle box of vitamins that he carries around everywhere.

[Kale Lowry]

I kind of love that though.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

I'm like, why do you have a tackle box? Like, this is very alarming. Like, do you have health issues?

[Kale Lowry]

I heard that vitamins are all a scam though.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Also, I don't believe that.

[Kale Lowry]

I don't care if they are. If it makes me feel better, I'm doing it.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

I mean, I'm not big on like the gummy vitamins. The only gummy vitamin that I take is before bedtime. And it's. I don't even know if I'm pronouncing this right. So please, like don't come for me. Ashwagandha.

[Kale Lowry]

Ashwagandha.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Is that how you say it?

[Kale Lowry]

I think so. I've heard good things about lions mane, but I don't know if they're a scammer. I don't care if it's a placebo effect, I'll do it.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Oh my God.

[Kale Lowry]

I wanted to talk to you about this parents article about parents decided to take one kid on vacation and leave their other kid home. And before I read the article, I just want to say that I've done this and for various reasons I have taken some of my kids on vacation. Depending on what the relationship is with the dad. Like if the dad doesn't want to give up time or they have something going on. Elliot didn't want to go to Disney. He didn't want to miss school for Disney. So I brought my nephew instead. Like there are reasons why people do this, but this one in particular, it's on parents.com and it said parents with multiple kids will likely have asked themselves this question 120 times. How do I give each child quality one on one time? It can sometimes feel impossible, which I can agree with. Different stages, behaviors and abilities may mean one kid requires more than others. And I also agree with that being that it's summertime. We do have a trip coming up. And though I thought I selected this week as one of my weeks, I don't think Lux and Creed can go. And so unfortunately I'll just be bringing Elliot to go on. This family in the UK said that they had taken their first on a trip to Italy when he was a baby and they wanted to give their second a similar experience. And so they did the same with their second. And I don't see anything wrong with this so long as it's under like it's for the right reasons. Right? Like you're not not taking your kid because you don't. You simply just don't want them to go. It's because you're trying to create one on one time. Or more like if I have two kids versus five or if I have two kids versus seven, I'm going to spend more quality time with the two of them than I am. If I'm dividing it between seven, does that make sense?

[Lindsey Chrisley]

But also you have to look at the financials of dividing it between seven too. And so you have to look at the pros and cons of taking seven kids somewhere where let's say maybe only three want to go. But because you're not dividing those kids out, you're gonna have to split the finances between seven. Three of them wanted to go, the others didn't want to go. So I also think the experience would be changed too.

[Kale Lowry]

Well, so I'm thinking about Disney, for example, right? Elliot said that if he had to choose between another trip where he had a missed school and Disney and miss school, he didn't want to miss school for Disney. If it was somewhere else, he would have. So he didn't come. Lincoln wanted to go. Lux and Creed wanted to go. I was not going to pay for Rio Verse and Valley when they were 1 and 2 at the time to go to Disney. And now I'm paying for them to go to Disney and then also splitting my undivided attention to the older kids with babies and hindering the older kids experience with the younger kids. And I understand that that's not possible for everyone to do. But I'm saying that to say I do think that there is a world where both can be true. Like you can give your kids undivided attention and then also not take all of them on vacation.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

But it also is not the same trip for parents who have kids that are like spread out in ages. If we're using Disney as an example, I feel like the park that you would be visiting for the Littles is very different than the experience of the parks that the older kids would want to experience. So then how do you divide that? Also, to me, it's better to take two trips, do one with the Littles and then one with the Bigs.

[Kale Lowry]

That's what I, I literally, when we took the older kids to Disney last year, I told Elijah that I didn't want to go back to Disney until the twins were like five. And then I would take the Littles to Disney for their own trip because I would Imagine, obviously, if the older kids want to come, great, but if they don't want to come, it can be just for the littles.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

So it says in this article. It says that according to commenters, they were bashing the parents for the decision. It says, what a horrible idea. I can't imagine anything worse. Memories are to be made as a family. Another person says, I would never take one without the other. Somebody else says, after having kids, I totally understand and give the same respect to all children. I think that this is pretty thoughtful. So I personally think that you just have to do whatever is best for your family. I don't think there is really necessarily a right or wrong or wrong answer. But in this specific situation, it says the realities of having a toddler, including constantly needing to chase after them, takes away the attention from the baby. Plus, the trip allowed the dad to bond more with the infant who has been more attached to mom because of the nursing schedule. I do understand that, like things, you know, should be done as a family and I think there's a place for that to happen outside of trips. Also, I don't think that that should be the determining factor of if we're taking this child and this child and.

[Kale Lowry]

There'S a, there's a time want to take all of my kids on a vacation. But right now with the babies being two and one for what?

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Well, I can tell you blended family situation over here. Jackson loves to go to Braves games. The other not so much. So he wants to go to a Braves game this week and she likes to do arts and crafts. So it's like, okay, I'll take you to Buff City soaps and we can make like bath bombs and do all that stuff and they can go to the Braves game. And I feel like everybody served at the same time but doing something different.

[Kale Lowry]

Yeah, agreed. I like that idea.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Okay, so as we're speaking about kids, I need to know your thoughts on this. I saw it and I was like, I have to talk to Kale about it. It was a TikTok about sleep training under one and it said it's harmful. So I'm just going to give you a summary of the TikTok, but we will post it for you guys to be able to get all the context. The tick tock was saying when they cry, they need you and they're scared and they're in distress. If you don't go get them at all, you're teaching them that this is this world is unsafe place and you are an untrustworthy attachment figure for Them, they carry that into their life, their relationships, and feel lonely and alone. It's a great way to give a child the foundation for mental illness. Boys are more neurologically fragile than girls, so sleep teaching can be hard. And I know that you've told me a lot of times you have multiple kids that still get in your bed. Would love to know if you sleep trained, if you did the very, I would say, like viral idea of mommy on call or whatever it's called. Did you do that and did you let your kids cry it out?

[Kale Lowry]

I am not a fan of the cry it out method at all. I don't love. It stresses me out. It stresses the kids out. The only child that I had sleep training with was Biggie. Obviously for those of you who don't know that, I call Creed Biggie. He to this day is not a great sleeper. But she the I use rest is best for anyone who's looking for a sleep trainer. She it wasn't a cried out method. It was just like soothing them in their own room and rubbing their back when instead of like picking them up, pulling them out of their environment, taking them downstairs, going to the living room, doing take them to my. It's like soothing them in their room and not letting them cry it out. So it's a different sort of method for sleep training. I think what this is referring to is like the cry it out sleep training, that's never worked for me. And I'll tell you what, Lincoln Marshall Marroquin never sleeped in a crib a day in his life because he would never sleep without me or Javi. And I don't know, like, I agree with this. It's like when they're scared, they just want their mom and you can't spoil a baby. They're just looking for comfort.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

I feel like Jackson and Lincoln are so similar and I don't know if it's because we were both in marriages when we had those children. I don't know if that has anything to do with it or, you know, a factor that plays into it at all. Very much like Velcro kid and needed the constant reassurance of me being there.

[Kale Lowry]

Yep.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

He never went to a crib until he was 2 years old, which is almost like too old for a crib. He slept with us every single night of his life until he was two years old.

[Kale Lowry]

I actually get sad that some of my, like Elliot would never sleep with me as a baby. As a toddler, Lincoln did, Lux did, Creed did, and then Rio versus Valley never did so it's always like I get sad because they're only little for so long.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

I know. And I'm just like, it's not that big of a deal. The only reason that we moved him out of the bed was because I think that at that time was when our marriage started getting a little rocky. And so I think Will was trying to eliminate like all outside factors that could be causing an issue. And with him being in the bed, obviously you know what married people do when they go to bed. They so you know to be married for that. But you know, in my situation that's, that's what I feel like you should be doing. And that just eliminates, that eliminates that entire situation.

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[Lindsey Chrisley]

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[Kale Lowry]

Also unrelated I sent you a text about Uno being added to the game tables in the casino. Are you gambling?

[Lindsey Chrisley]

You sent me that and I was in the bed absolutely howling at some of the comments. I I want to go to Vegas with you specifically to play Uno.

[Kale Lowry]

But what's so funny, the screenshot that is on the screen right now, it literally says Liked by Kayl Lowery. I would go to Vegas just for Uno. Like I'm not, I don't want to be there all night. I don't want to be drinking. I want to play Uno and that's it. But people make up their own rules and they become. It's like the mandala effect where like stacking the draw two, draw four, whatever stacking those. Like those are all I think made up rules.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

So I saw in the comments and never knew this before reading the comments that you could not stack cards. I thought that was just the way that you played. I feel like that's the way I've played since childhood. But apparently you can only use one of those cards at a time.

[Kale Lowry]

I only learned about stacking this past.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Year and so you stack.

[Kale Lowry]

Yeah, I thought you could but you also can't do. I think you can do a draw four on top of a draw four.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Well it says AOL did a report on this and it says UNO will be available in Las Vegas casino for the first of its kind elevated social experience. It says entry to the event is limited and money will not be at stake. I feel like this is such an epic way for casinos to get like non gamblers in to the casino. Right? Like yeah, this is just a complete like marketing business move to get them there.

[Kale Lowry]

No, it's a thousand percent mark. It's good marketing though. Like that's we just said you and I just said we would go to the casino just for that 1000% and the mojitos and I would definitely play and I would eat a lot of snacks and I'd play Uno.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

But it does say that this is going to be a short lived promo.

[Kale Lowry]

Why? Maybe they'll see how it Does. If it does really well, then they'll keep it going.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

It's only supposed to be for a weekend. I do hope that money will be at stake at some point during this because you're not. You and I are flying to Vegas to like do this.

[Kale Lowry]

Could you imagine? We just say, we're out, we can't record this week. We're going to Vegas to play Uno.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Could you imagine? Everybody would be so pissed.

[Kale Lowry]

No, I think that kitty cats would support it. Truly. I think they'd be like, all right, circle back, let us know how it went and they'd give us a free pass.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

It says that this is going to be called UNO social clubs. And I kind of want to like knock this off and start doing like little pop up events around the country of us just like playing Uno and people up by not playing it right.

[Kale Lowry]

Do you remember the UNO themed birthday party I did for Lux and Creed? It was, yes, I do. Romello is Uno and Lux was draw four because that was like the perfect. So I mean, I'm down for anything UNO themed.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Kristen said kitty gang meetup.

[Kale Lowry]

Yeah.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Not a kitty gang meetup. Okay. So there was somebody that says that they need friend advice and I need to ask you, do you think that you and I are like the type of people that need to be giving friend advice?

[Kale Lowry]

No, I shouldn't really give advice at all ever.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Okay, well, we're about to give friend advice. It says my best friend friend of 23 years and another really close friend of ours planned a girls trip the same month of my 40th. They did not include me on it until after they picked the dates and bought plane tickets. They said that they didn't think that they would. They said that they didn't think that I would be able to financially go because I'm going through divorce. And I told them that they have no place to assume my finances. I am hurt by this and feel left out. I'm a master planner and save money left and right. In fact, I have money that I could go but feel like I was given a leftover invite. Am I overreacting? They have, they have both been there for me during the separation, so I don't want to discredit that. You know what? I would be pissed the off.

[Kale Lowry]

Yeah, this is actually sad because, like, it's giving me. Yeah, because you don't know what someone's financial situation is. And you could still invite her and she has. She should have the right to say, yes, I can go or no, I can't.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Okay. Does it piss you off if. And I'm. I'm saying this for a reason, because I've got a story. But does it piss you off if you're like, best besties with somebody, like, it is your best friend, and then that person becomes best friends with someone else? Does that piss you off?

[Kale Lowry]

It doesn't piss me off, but it's weird.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

It pisses me off.

[Kale Lowry]

Like, it makes me, like, so you don't want to be my best friend anymore? Would you love me if I was a worm? Like, it just is giving. You can't have two best friends. No.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

I do feel like you can have a group of best friends, but.

[Kale Lowry]

No, you can. I was just being dramatic.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

But, like, within that group of best friends, like, each of those best friends. Best friend relationships are very different because if they weren't very different, then you would just have the one best friend.

[Kale Lowry]

Well, so Emily and I were just in the car with someone else, and we were talking about this, and he was like, you males only have one best friend through their entire. Like, that is their best friend, even if they don't talk. And me and Emily were like. But, like, my best friends in my life, like, in real time, none of them even live in the same state. So I have best. Different best friends, because they're all very different relationships, and they all live in different states.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Yeah.

[Kale Lowry]

So. But it. Like, in Delaware, I only have one best friend. Do you know what I mean? So I just need to be best friends with someone else. I'd be like, what the fuck? What the fuck?

[Lindsey Chrisley]

You'd be like, who is she? And how do I get her out of this?

[Kale Lowry]

Literally, like, are we fighting?

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Kristen says definition of hoes and different area codes. Literally 1,000%. But I don't get upset, like, if you and Emily are, like, going to the lake, and, like, y' all went on y', all's, like, lake trip, and then y' all hang out, like, at your pool. That doesn't bother me.

[Kale Lowry]

No, I'm like, that's. If I lived in Atlanta, it might bother you.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Yeah. I would be like, why the Was I not invited to the cookout?

[Kale Lowry]

Exactly. And that's how I feel.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Yeah. But I know someone that became, like, really good friends with me and then met one of my friends through me and then became. They, like, kind of branched off.

[Kale Lowry]

Yep.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

And I was like, yeah, I don't like y' all anymore collectively.

[Kale Lowry]

That's definitely happened to me before. And I was like, wait, what?

[Lindsey Chrisley]

You know, I would. I would hate to admit this. But I'm going to. Right at this moment. I kind of get upset when I feel like I'm not at the pool with y', all, and I feel like I would hang out with y'. All. It's just, like, the distance is so far.

[Kale Lowry]

Yeah. Like, it's not a day trip. You know what I mean? Like, it's not like we could be, like, making a day out of it.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

I can't just, like, come over in 30 minutes.

[Kale Lowry]

Who was I talking to about garage games? Taylor. I got my hair done.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

I never heard of garage games ever again. That would be a day too soon.

[Kale Lowry]

Well, I was telling I hadn't seen Taylor in a long time, and I was telling her about garage games, and I was cracking up. What made me think of that? I don't know, but it was cracking me up. And then I was like, that's Lindsay. Like, I would go to Atlanta to play garage games with you.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Yes.

[Kale Lowry]

Uno in the garage.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Okay, but would it upset you if I was like, okay, if we're gonna do, like, this whole garage games thing, like, we need to make a full video of this. Like, it needs to go on. Social people need to be aware of what this looks like. So everybody from the collective friend groups. Right. That, like, we're associated with, gets invited.

[Kale Lowry]

Okay, so we're having garage games tournaments. Tournament, yes.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Yes. Like, could we. Could we do that?

[Kale Lowry]

We should do that. We should go camping with garage games tournaments.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Wait, wait, somebody. I had commented on something that you and Becky had posted. I think you were, like, recording in your camper, and I had commented something like, don't y' all get any ideas to park this in my driveway.

[Kale Lowry]

No, we're parking it in your driveway.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

People were like, please park it in her driveway. Like, I wake up and I see a camper in my driveway. Immediately. Not. And you are not connecting to, like, don't. You have to connect to, like, a sewer so you can.

[Kale Lowry]

I think, just electric. I don't know. I'm gonna be so honest with you. We can't use the camper for anything else because I can't pull the.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

So, wait, do you have a truck?

[Kale Lowry]

Yeah, I have a high country.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Not a Silverado.

[Kale Lowry]

I got a high country silverado.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Wait, what's that song? Is it Morgan Wallen song?

[Kale Lowry]

Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Ain't that some. Yep.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Yeah, yeah, we love that you have a Silverado.

[Kale Lowry]

Yeah, I don't. I can drive the. It's diesel, but I don't drive it.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Do you know that my son has saved a Total of a total of 4.75 to buy a truck.

[Kale Lowry]

I love that. I. When we were at the lake a couple weeks ago, I got to see my first cousins, and they're teenagers. One's going to college, and one is a. He's about to be a Junior. He's 6 8. He's 16 years old. He's 6 8. And I. He pulls up to the restaurant, and we're talking, and I'm like, oh, like, you know, what are you driving? Because you're six eight, right? He's like, oh, I drive an F150. And I'm like, of course you do. You're 16 years old and you have to drive an F150. And I'M like, the fact that, like, we're having to buy kids cars, like, cars and trucks soon, I'm not ready. Like, I have to draw. I have to buy a vehicle for Elliot. Coming up.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

You know, I'm not there yet. And I don't envy that situation because.

[Kale Lowry]

If you think about it, Jackson's what, 12?

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Yeah.

[Kale Lowry]

You have to start saving now.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

He has 4.75.

[Kale Lowry]

Are you matching what he's saving?

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Yeah. So. So now we're at, like, nine bucks.

[Kale Lowry]

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[Lindsey Chrisley]

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[Kale Lowry]

I. You know what? I can get behind the chevys, but the F1, the Ford, I just can't get behind the Ford.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Don't do that to me.

[Kale Lowry]

Like, tell them that they need to switch it up. Like, but don't come to me with a Toyota Tundra, okay? You're not driving no pickup Toyota truck. Okay?

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Why?

[Kale Lowry]

Why? Because. Don't talk to me if you drive a Toyota truck.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

But. But why are you so heated about it? It's just like, if somebody wants to drive a Toyota truck, like, why is that your business?

[Kale Lowry]

Toyota, everything else. Toyota pickup truck, truck. You're a douchebag.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Yeah, but I have always been told that, like, Toyota's last and run forever. Like, we're talking, like, 400,000.

[Kale Lowry]

So get a 4Runner at the point that you drive a Toyota pickup truck. It's giving. Douchebag. It's giving. Where's my hug at?

[Lindsey Chrisley]

I just need to know, do we think that, like, F150s are the best truck on the road?

[Kale Lowry]

No. Let me look up at F350. But also, I really like a good old high country Silverado.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Do you just feel like it has, like, the. Like a bit of a gangster lean? Like, that's why you like it?

[Kale Lowry]

It's just. Yeah, it's just a little bit of extra. No. A350. I'm not a Ford girly. Like, I'm not. I'm really not a Ford girly. I'm. And also, the Jeep trucks are ugly. Like, don't pull up to my house in a Jeep truck with a bed. Like, that's weird.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Wait, no, no, no. Okay. So Ford trucks. I absolutely love them. Have you ever heard. And I feel like this is only, like, Southern people say this Ford stands for found on.

[Kale Lowry]

Yeah.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Yeah. You know what? The only car that I've ever had that I truly have had no issue out of is my Ford Bronco.

[Kale Lowry]

I would love to get a Ford Bronco. I would also love a layer. No, but I like the Bronco, actually. Would love to get, like, an old school, like the one that O.J. simpson like that style Ford Bronco and, like, make it cool.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Since we're such true crimers, could we just buy OJ Simpson's Bronco? It's in a, like, museum in Tennessee somewhere. And that could be our getaway car.

[Kale Lowry]

I would agree.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Okay, the next listener says, and I loved this one. 50, 50 households. How do we do groundings? My daughter is an absolute monster for me. Sometimes I'm talking fit, cr. Crying, screaming before bed in the middle of the night. I make her sleep in her own room, own bed. Occasionally she can sleep with me at her dad's. She sleeps wherever. She can do whatever she wants there. So she has no rules with me. There are rules, and I don't allow her to be a brat. She was grounded Sunday, and she was grounded Sunday. Also, her day to go with her dad. No iPad, no TV for two days. Today she's at a Sam volleyball game and eating ice cream. He tells me that she doesn't have an attitude for him and so he isn't going to punish her. How do I handle this? I feel like the punishment should mirror the same at both houses so she knows she cannot treat one of us poorly. If she knows what that she is about to leave.

[Kale Lowry]

I would agree with her that I do think that they should be the same in the houses, but there is unfortunately a lot of gray area. And that just. It sounds like he's not getting on board to do the same thing. And you can't control what he does. So this is what it looks like and I'm dealing with the same exact thing. Like what where is the happy medium? If you don't have a co parent that's willing to get on the same page with you about any of that stuff, what is the resolution?

[Lindsey Chrisley]

So I feel like the easiest way to solve problems like this is if everybody in a co parenting situation could go off of the mentality of the punishment needs to match the crime. Will and I had a conversation very early on when we divorce, like we have to get on the same page because we don't want to Jackson coming to me for certain things and going to him for certain things knowing that like I'm probably not going to care about what he's coming to me about and Will's not going to care, you know, vice versa. In other situation it's pretty much just like across the board. If the phone's taken during one week, he doesn't have it at either house. It either house. Because I don't feel like it's fair for me to punish for something and I don't even like the word punishment. Like. Like have a consequence for something. Right? Like you've been told that your phone should not be on past 9 o' clock on school nights and now it's on at 11. So now I have to take it and you don't get to have it for the rest of the week. I feel like it's fair for me to say that if I have him early in the week and for it just not to go to wills. Do you agree with that or do you think that that is removing parenting from the other household?

[Kale Lowry]

No, because it happened at your house and in order to keep it consistent, you removing the phone altogether for the rest of the week makes sense to me.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Some people would argue though, you chose to do that at your house. You don't get to dictate if that punishment or consequence is going to follow at my house because you're not the parent at my house. I'm the parent.

[Kale Lowry]

But then you cross into the territory of now is a double jeopardy. The phone was taken at my house for the remainder of the week and now you're gonna go get a different punishment at your dad's house. Like I don't know that that's a solution either.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

But also if let's. If we're using the phone as a. The example, he takes the phone back over there and he gets it. The only thing that that's teaching him is that the consequences only matter where the crime was committed.

[Kale Lowry]

Which is not true.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Correct.

[Kale Lowry]

I don't know that there's a one size fits all. And I'll tell you what, adding a parent, a co parent, that is not co parenting will make or break the entire situation.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

I tend to agree. I'm so thankful that I'm not in some of the situations that I've seen you regularly find yourself in. I just, I think when you have two different parenting styles and you're trying to co parent and there's two different homes, it's always a recipe for chaos.

[Kale Lowry]

Yep, I agree.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Oh, holy. So I saw speaking of crimes, this was on Fox News and it says small town dentist facing trial for allegedly poisoning his wife's protein shake amid secret affair Cyanide.

[Kale Lowry]

What is cyanide? What is that? Where do people buy poison?

[Lindsey Chrisley]

I don't like.

[Kale Lowry]

How does one get their hands on lethal doses of poison?

[Lindsey Chrisley]

I don't know. But it says that. The jury selection is set to begin Monday in Colorado where prosecutors allege that the local dentist murdered his wife by poisoning her protein shakes with cyanide. Cyanide. All while secretly carrying on an affair and plotting a new life without her. This man's 47 years old and he was charged with first degree murder after deliberation and the March 2023 death of his wife. She was a 43 year old mother of six. It says the high stakes murder trial is expected to last approximately three weeks. I and, and not that anybody should be like poisoning somebody's protein shakes, but like you go to dental school for however long you go and then you're just out here around on your wife and poisoning protein shakes, like risking your entire livelihood. Like what, like what goes through these people's minds that are having these type of intricate affairs.

[Kale Lowry]

Well, that's what I've always wondered. Like when I see like true crime stuff, Idaho channel, you know, tick tocks, whatever, you can go get divorced and like, yeah, it's more expensive, but there are alternative ways to do that. Honestly, women will be with men who are still married and not necessarily like, like they didn't legally get divorced. But the man is not no longer living in the house. Like there is other way. Like you could just up and leave and you don't have to kill anyone.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

But I think that they don't think about the long term, right? Because now this man is on trial for murder. He's thinking about the short term. Like, let me just get rid of her fast. In their mind, they have to be sick and twisted because guaranteed, if you ask this man what was your thought process? He would be like, well, I want my dentist practice. Like, I want this new woman that I'm in this affair with. So I'm just going to poison protein shakes. Like, I don't think that they'll get caught.

[Kale Lowry]

Well, okay, so a dentist is a doctor. So they probably didn't want to lose money with a divorce. I guess I could see that they don't have to pay alimony for cheating or whatever. He probably felt like there was no other. Like, but in today's society, you can't get away with shit like this. So, like, while I understand, okay, I lose half of my business or I'll lose half of my income, whatever. Like, that is a small price to pay for your ultimate happiness with this person that you think that you're going to be happy with forever. Not saying that that's the case, but like, losing half your money is a small price to pay in order to be happy in the long run. Which sounds like that was the goal.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Trust me, I'm aware. Very personally aware. And I didn't kill anybody.

[Kale Lowry]

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[Kale Lowry]

Why is why is Brian Coburger the COVID of this story is my bigger question.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

I don't. I don't know. But it says. According to court documents that were obtained by Fox News Digital, the woman began experiencing mysterious symptoms including dizziness, vomiting, severe headaches. And then her symptoms progressed. And the court documents alleged that it include blurred vision and feeling drugged seizures and rapid medical Decline. She was hospital. She was hospitalized several times before slipping into a. A coma and being declared brain dead.

[Kale Lowry]

Oh, so he basically killed her.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

No, like, he was successful.

[Kale Lowry]

No, no, like he was. Okay. I did not realize that he was successful in this. I. Yeah. Thought that maybe she lived.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

It says that she was admitted into the hospital under suspicious circumstances. And then authorities turned to investigate the man that they. They thought was involved. And it says that his dental colleague alerted hospital staff and police to a suspicious chemical delivery. So, like, would a dentist be able to order cyanide, like, legally?

[Kale Lowry]

Yeah, but I mean, people work for you that have morals that would report something like this because if a lot of people would be scared and maybe he wouldn't have gotten caught if that colleague didn't report it.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Well, apparently he was around with an orthodontist. So they were planning on cleaning teeth and fixing them. Okay.

[Kale Lowry]

They were like coffee combos. Podcast has eight children collectively. They could bring them to our practice and then send them to our orthodontist.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Yes, like, they were probably going to be preying on people like us. Okay. I also need to know why people who get in, like, these types of affairs to the point where you have to like, attempt or. Or successfully kill someone off. Why are you emailing each other? During times of crime.

[Kale Lowry]

People really are so stupid that they don't scary. Like, get a burner phone, create a burner email, maybe get a burner laptop. Like, you're gonna have to go to lengths to not get caught. But my bigger question is just like, what is the. Like, why?

[Lindsey Chrisley]

I mean, this man went through links. I'm just saying, like, why are we sending emails, but then we're. We're ordering chemicals to kill someone with a protein shake. You think you're not going to get caught or you're immediately not going to be a suspect. Like, you're evidently not that smart. So I don't want you cleaning my teeth anyway. But it says that the emails were obtained through search warrants and that there were intimate conversations and planned trips, and he was deliberately trying to conceal his relationship using a secret email address.

[Kale Lowry]

Okay, well, where he up was that he didn't have. He needed to use a secret computer as well. Not his regular everyday computer, but a burner iPhone.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

He needed a secret laptop, like, in.

[Kale Lowry]

Order to get away with it at this point. Like, that's the type of length that you have to go.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

All I can say is that I saw the family photo of the dentist, his wife and their six children. They have six kids, they have Six kids. Okay. Let's just say in a hypothetical situation that you're with somebody and you just say, you know what? It's like not working for me anymore.

[Kale Lowry]

I've done that four times.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

We know. So do you not look at your children in their face and feel, like, such a sense of guilt? Like, imagine trying to poison your partner so that not only your kids now are going to lose you because you did such, like, a heinous act, but they're also losing your partner, so they have no one.

[Kale Lowry]

I agree. I also would just like to give advice. Whenever I was trying to get divorced, I went and saw an attorney in Dover, Delaware. I've talked about this before. I'm going to reiterate. She looked at me dead in my face during that consultation and said, kale, now is not the time to get divorced. Go back home, get your ducks in a row, and come see me in a couple months. Like, if you are thinking about killing somebody, like, you want to leave someone, you want to start a new life, you want to do. My advice here is go consult an attorney and see what they would. What is worst case scenario? Right? Like, for the people who are worried about losing half their business or their income or they have to pay alimony and child support, like, go talk to an attorney and see what worst case scenario is so that you can come up with a game plan. Because I feel like we're using killing someone as a first line of defense when it shouldn't. The way that I thought you were saying consult an attorney about murder. No, I wasn't saying consult them about murder. Go consult them about, like, where you would stand financially, because that, I think, is part of it. And then, like, for the people who want to leave their partners but they feel like they can't because they don't have the funds. Also go see an attorney, because there are a lot of attorneys who will consult for free. And you can see, like, what. They might have resources for you. They might say, okay, like, you don't have the funds, but maybe there's pro bono. Maybe there's a way to get divorced without it. Like, what are the resources after you get divorced? Like, there are. Go seek that out before you think about killing someone. Because, like, I have three pigs. I don't know how many bodies they can eat.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Oh, my God, no. But does Delaware have, like, a family center, like, in Yalls Counties, to where you can go to get, like, free advice on stuff? Because I know we have that here. And they're legal advocates for people who can't like afford certain filings and stuff like that. They will help them advocate through for themselves through the legal process.

[Kale Lowry]

I'm not sure. I actually don't know. You could ask Chris Lopez. He might have used, I don't know what he, who he uses to file all his stuff. Could ask him.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

I also just need to say at what point of your life like does it get so bad? And, and I do think that there can be like some very bad situations. But like at what point do you just like immediately go like murder?

[Kale Lowry]

I've never thought about killing someone so either like it never crossed my mind to be like oh I'm. I could definitely kill that person. That's.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

I mean I'm not about hitting somebody's door down but like never. Pew pew. Never.

[Kale Lowry]

I don't know. So like to come across people who think that way is so weird.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Speaking of the the legal advice that you were talking about, I'm about to to seek some legal advice on several different avenues of my life as well. We have another person who emailed us. Hi ladies, my name is Gigi and I really hope that this email reaches you. I want to start off by saying I love your podcast and look forward to hearing it every Thursday on the way to work. I don't have any friends so when I listen to you girls I feel like I'm chatting with you personally. I'll get straight to the point. I've been married for 10 years and been with my husband for 15 years. I have a 17 year old daughter from my previous relationship and he has a son that is 19 years old also from a pregnant previous relationship. We have a seven year old daughter together. I want to know at what point your girl you girls knew that it was time to divorce. I've been unhappy for so many years now. My husband has a drinking problem and refuses to make any changes or help himself. We both work a lot, contribute to our home, but still struggle to make ends meet. I try my best to make extra cash by selling baked goods and work full time at a dental office while he works side labor jobs with his dad's business. We're struggling financially and I've tried coming up with a plan and or a budget and nothing seems to work. I have talked to him about getting a union job which has all the which he has all the credentials and certifications for. I've mentioned various times it's for the best as he is not able to make ends meet with what he makes being with his dad. It's been like this for three years. I don't know what else to do. I feel mentally exhausted and also very disappointed. He has disrespected me so many times at family gatherings. The next day he acts like it never happens. He drinks every day and expects me to be okay with it. I feel trapped and want to leave. But he is helping me fix my legal status here in the US there's so many moving parts to the situation. I have tried for years to keep our family together, but I can't anymore. I just started planning an exit plan so I can be ready. It breaks my heart for my daughters, but I can't let him think that stay. I can't let them think that staying is love. Any advice is greatly appreciated.

[Kale Lowry]

She lives in the state of California and only has one sister here. The rest of her family lives in Oregon. Which is the plan to move. Move there. This is layered and I think that the best thing, like I just said, completely unrelated but applicable, is go speak to an attorney to see what that looks like for you. Especially if you do have.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Issues with legal status.

[Kale Lowry]

Legal status. Go speak to an attorney. But also maybe reach out to an immigration attorney. Because I'm. I would go out on a limb and say that my entertainment attorney and my family attorney are not going to be as well versed on immigration and legal status as an immigration attorney. And I'm sure that you could reach out to. I had an immigration attorney on my, on my. On Barely Famous. You might be able to reach out to her. She may know other. I'm not saying she can help you. I'm saying that she might know other immigration attorneys but also speak to a family attorney before you do anything. This could help with your exit plan. But it sounds like if you've been doing this for three years, it sounds like it's time to move on.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

I will say. And I. I don't know what your situation was. Did you and Javi decide like you were getting divorced and then you just like went full throttle with it or. There was.

[Kale Lowry]

Javi lied to me and told me that he had already filed for divorce. He sent me this long thing, told me that I was getting my kids taken from me. He filed for divorce like I was gonna get served, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I got that text message in the middle of class while I was at dsu and so I was like, like, what do I do? So then I went to an attorney the very next day and they said that he had not filed for divorce, that it was a lie. There was no Filings. And at that point, I was like, I'm filing because you're not gonna play with divorce in my face like that.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

I will say my attorney's advice to me was to be the filer. Not for the purposes of, like, I felt like I needed, like, a stronger case or anything like that. Ours was so textbook, really, that that wasn't it at all. I just didn't want it looming over me to be like, what you had to go through of, oh, I filed. You're gonna get served. Like, me waiting around for it, whatever. It's like I have the control to know, like, when I filed it, and I know it's filed, and I know it's coming. So I think that that was really great advice. I will say specialist for sure. In a situation like this, finding somebody who specializes in certain things is definitely a must. And on waiting the three years, if you've been unhappy for three years, if I had anything to do, I would have gone back and gotten divorced in 2017 when I initially filed.

[Kale Lowry]

I think trying to get your ducks in a row before you break it to him too, because if he has a drinking problem, I would worry for your safety, you know, when he finds out, I don't know what that would look like, if he would even be able to, like, get an apartment or something to be able to move out. Because I had always. I told Javi, like, one day you're gonna go to work, and we're not going to be here when you get back. Like, that was good. That was my plan. But then that was the first time I talked to an attorney. She was like, you need to go get your ducks in a row. Hold on. Lincoln's calling me.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Oh, my gosh. Does it not make you so happy to hear his little voice?

[Kale Lowry]

Yeah. And we're on a schedule, but he doesn't call me on the schedule, so.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Oh, he doesn't? No, he's busy, ma'. Am.

[Kale Lowry]

He's booked and busy.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

He is booked and busy. Okay, well, I want you to be able to call him back, so let's do foul play.

[Kale Lowry]

Okay, here's my story for foul play. Back in my toxic era, I was with this guy for almost seven years. We met when we were 14 high school sweethearts and ended up living together. He loved cheating on me whenever he got the chance. I finally had enough and was spending the final six months getting my ducks in a row to leave. At the same time, he was always locking himself in the bathroom to send dick pics to random girls, thinking I Had no idea what he was doing. He did this for years leading up to this. One of the final times, he must have thought, yikes, I need to get rid of some hair down there. Because he tried to use my Nair that was in the shower. The only problem is that he was one of those guys that doesn't like to listen to other people or read directions. You're only supposed to leave Nairon for a certain amount of time. But he didn't read the instructions to know that. Almost an hour of him being in the bathroom, he opens the door, walks out and he's crying. I mean full on sobbing. Asking me for help, knowing that he has been sending dick pics. Fake genuinely. I ask what happened and he told me he used my Naironist dick and left it on for over 30 minutes. He couldn't even walk normally. It was, it was slow and monkey like. I couldn't do anything but laugh. He got mad that I didn't do anything to help, but I told him to put some cold water or aloe on it and figure it out. Fast forward four years later. I left that loser a couple months later and ended up meeting my now husband and we have a healthy baby daughter. Hopefully my neck. Hopefully my ex's second degree nail burn healed because that won't be cute in pictures. Hope this gave you a good laugh. I know it makes me chuckle years later. That is so funny to me because that is karma.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Listen, I will never understand dick pics like that. I have said this so many times. Like, I will never understand it. I don't know what guy goes into a bathroom or stands in front of a mirror or is like laying in his bed with it paste to the side of his leg. Like, oh, this is the one. Like, absolutely the not kill. I used to have this man on Instagram that would send me dick pics every single day. And the crusty and rustiness like of this situation, the folds, like, I can't and you know, it's a problem because I would see his name pop up in the thing and I'm like, oh, there he is again. And it became like a comedy show for myself because I'm like looking around the room to see like what he has going on. Basically has bumps all over his dick and I'm like, why would you send that to someone?

[Kale Lowry]

Do you think they're looking like they're fishing for compliments? Like, what is that?

[Lindsey Chrisley]

I don't know. Like the unsolicited dick pics, like, bother me truly more than, than the ones from somebody that you would like, know or that you were with. I can just tell you I have only received a dick pic from one person that I've ever dated.

[Kale Lowry]

Dick picks from like the person I'm in a relationship with. Like if.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

But why do I need to see it in a picture? Like, okay, so you don't want to.

[Kale Lowry]

Like, do you want to see what you're working with before you work with it?

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Absolutely not. Coffee Compass Podcast is up for a nomination in the Society and Culture category for the People's Choice Podcast Awards. Voting is open now through July 31st. To vote, you guys can click the link in the description of this episode or visit Instagram, Facebook or official Facebook group. We appreciate you guys. Thank you for always supporting our show. Please subscribe and review on the Apple Podcast app, follow and rate on Spotify or listen wherever you get your pods. Full video episodes are now available on Kale's Patreon at www.patreon.com K Lowry don't forget to follow us on Instagram and join our Facebook group to connect with us and our community. We hope you guys have a great week and we'll talk to you soon.

[Kale Lowry]

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