Farts, Feelings & First Sleepovers

Summary

Coffee Convos Podcast – Episode Summary

Episode Title: Farts, Feelings & First Sleepovers
Hosts: Kail Lowry & Lindsie Chrisley
Release Date: April 30, 2026
Themes: Motherhood, friendship, intimacy and embarrassment, growing up in the public eye, communication quirks, and life transitions

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Overview

In this lively and candid episode of Coffee Convos, Kail and Lindsie unpack the chaos and comedy of adult friendship, awkward moments in relationships (including “the fart incident”), what it’s like growing up with (or without) sleepovers, and reflect on lessons learned from years in the public eye. The atmosphere is raw, confessional, and peppered with humor, as the hosts let listeners in on everything from their most embarrassing moments to introspective lessons about boundaries, connection, and healing.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Adult Sleepovers & Upbringing Contrasts

• First sleepover together: Kail and Lindsie kick off by sharing that, despite their close friendship and working partnership, they’ve never had a true sleepover before.
  • “I’m 34 years old. Like, I’m not sleeping in a bathtub. I’m not sleeping on a couch. I’m too old to be doing that.” (Kail, 03:01)
• Childhood differences: Lindsie never did sleepovers growing up due to family rules, while Kail practically lived at her friends’ houses.

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2. The “Fart in the Shower” Confession

• The incident: Lindsie recounts how, while showering with her boyfriend Ike nearby, she accidentally farted—her first time doing so in front of him after a year together.
• Embarrassment & texting for validation:
  • “A fart just escaped me in the shower in front of Ike. What do I do?” (Lindsie, 05:05)
  • Kail and Lindsie debate whether this should be a relationship-ending event and how partners react to bodily functions.
• Cultural taboos & humor: They reflect on the vulnerability of adult relationships and confess continued discomfort with bodily functions around others, even after years of dating or marriage.
  • “It's like, once the fart is out there, it’s free reign to continue farting.” (Lindsie, 10:37)

Memorable Quotes

• “I was mortified. And now I have to figure out, like, where do I go from here?” (Kail, 10:15)
• “I just love that you literally texted six people because nobody was responding. And it was emergency, by the way.” (Lindsie, 09:06)

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3. Misophonia: When Sounds Trigger Rage

• The ‘disease’: Lindsie describes her intense dislike for hearing others crunch or chew (e.g., apples, chips), wondering if it’s “a disease.”
  • “Even if somebody else bites into an apple, like, that first bite...I like the way it sounds. The chewing, I'm like, I don't care. It doesn't bother me.” (Kail, 15:35)
  • Kail reads a scientific explanation of misophonia and its link to neurodivergent traits or trauma.
• Relatability: Many find these sensory issues relatable or humorous, especially as part of the hosts’ idiosyncrasies.

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4. Vulnerability & Self-Reflection (Game Segment: “We’re Not Really Strangers”)

• Deep dive questions: The hosts play a question game exploring their perceptions of each other, personal growth, fears, and pivotal choices.
• Moments of honesty:
  • “Like, I live in such a guarded state that it's almost like a choice to be lonely. But then I'm like, I don't want to be lonely, but I also won’t let anybody in.” (Lindsie, 21:45)
  • “What would your younger self not believe about your life today? ... Four baby dads. Genuinely, truly.” (Kail, 34:40)
• Business beginnings as strangers:
  • “We signed this podcast deal as strangers. So you, in fact, changed my life.” (Kail, 30:37)
• What do they crave: Both long for “calm” and “silence,” sharing how past chaos has shaped their needs now.

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5. Reflections on Fame, Privacy, and TV Contracts

• Advice to younger selves (TV careers):
  • Have your own attorney read contracts, insist on residuals, never discuss anything on set you don’t want aired, and be cautious about getting too close to production crew.
  • “If you don't talk about it, they can't film about it. And that's from my experience.” (Kail, 45:11)
• Impact of public scrutiny: Lindsie discusses how being publicly abandoned and scrutinized has made her more guarded.

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6. Aging, Family, and Sex—What Changes?

• Foul Play Segment: Viewer letter about finding grandparents’ bedroom “toys.”
• Talking intimacy, aging, routines: Both joke about what age sex stops, laugh about generational divides, and marvel at their grandparents’ hobbies and bonds.
• Cultural quirks: Reflecting on “breeding” language and genetics in relationships.
  • “Will told me that I wasn’t a good breeder because I’m short. And then I brought down the gene pool.” (Lindsie, 36:34)

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7. Creating Hobbies, Seeking Challenges

• On being 'busy': The hosts analyze how older relatives focus on hobbies after retirement and how they themselves chase healthy distractions—whether pursuing certifications or thinking up new business ideas.
  • Kail jokes about becoming a paralegal: “I want to get my paralegal certificate so I can be a paralegal and file charges on these hoes.” (Kail, 55:01)
• Business brainstorming: The co-parenting venture “Middle Point” is posed as a future project.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• “We’re lunatics and psychopaths, for sure.” (Kail, 17:07)
• “Sometimes Kale will send an audio message and it will be the extreme level of psycho.” (Lindsie, 43:20)
• “It's like, once the fart is out there, it’s free reign to continue farting.” (Lindsie, 10:37)
• “If you don't talk about it, they can't film about it. And that's from my experience.” (Kail, 45:11)
• “I want to get my paralegal certificate so I can be a paralegal and file charges on these hoes.” (Kail, 55:01)
• “We signed this podcast deal as strangers. So you, in fact, changed my life.” (Kail, 30:37)

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Timestamps to Key Segments

• First Adult Sleepover & Childhood Sleepovers: 02:38–03:38
• The Shower Fart Confession: 05:05–10:37
• Misophonia & Crunchy Foods: 14:45–17:10
• Deep Question Game (“We’re Not Really Strangers”): 17:13–34:39
• Reflections on Contracts & Public Life: 44:40–46:08
• Foul Play: Grandparent Bedroom Surprise: 46:08–48:06
• Aging, Family, Hobbies: 52:46–54:19
• Hobbies, Challenges & Co-Parenting Business: 55:31–56:53

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Tone & Language

The tone is irreverent, confessional, and peppered with self-deprecating humor. Both hosts frequently break into laughter and use strong casual language (“psycho,” “chaos,” “fart”), but balance the laughs with vulnerability and raw admissions about their struggles and hopes. They are candid about bodily functions, adult friendships, family quirks, and their sometimes chaotic communication.

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Summary

This episode is a perfect encapsulation of why Coffee Convos is beloved: unfiltered stories about real, relatable embarrassments and joys; deep dives into mental health and adulting anxieties; and the kind of open, hilarious honesty that only exists between longtime friends. The mix of personal confessions, practical lessons, and off-the-wall anecdotes offers a podcast experience that’s as healing as it is entertaining. If you’ve ever wondered how reality TV veterans process embarrassment, crave calm after chaos, or navigate intimacy and friendship as adults—you’ll find both laughter and wisdom here.

Transcript

[Lindsay Chrisley]

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[Kale Lowry]

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[Kale Lowry]

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[Lindsay Chrisley]

y', all, it's Lindsay. I just wanted to hop on here really quick before the episode starts and let you guys know that this was recorded prior to any recent events. So if you're listening and feel like something isn't being addressed that simply because of the timing, I'm going to be taking the time that I need to process some of these things and handle it in the right way. And I really appreciate you guys giving me that space and I just appreciate your love and support more than you know. It truly means everything to me. I hate gift giving and receiving.

[Kale Lowry]

Receiving gifts is so weird. What do you say? Thank you.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

This is Coffee Convos with Kale Lowry and Lindsay Chrisley. I really want you to be in your feels. Kale.

[Kale Lowry]

That does not interest me whatsoever.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I feel very attacked by you. A spirited discussion about motherhood, friendship, family and life in the public eye. I'm just not with the fakery anymore.

[Kale Lowry]

There's a fakery bakery around here.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Here's Kale and Lindsay now. We're rolling.

[Kale Lowry]

We're on the air.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Good morning, and welcome back to another episode of Coffee Combos podcast. Guess what? I'm having my first sleepover with Kale.

[Kale Lowry]

We are having. Before we get into what I was just going to show Lindsay. I'm sleeping over with Lindsay. We're having an adult girl sleepover.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I honestly cannot allowed.

[Kale Lowry]

Lindsay and I have never had a sleepover because we've never even shared a hotel room.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Never. It's just, like, not a. It's not a thing that we do.

[Kale Lowry]

Well, to be fair, Alessandra and I say this all the time. Like, oh, I'm 34 years old. Like, I'm not doing it. Like, I'm not sleeping in a bathtub. I'm not sleeping on the couch. I'm not, Like, I'm too old to be doing that.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

And I didn't even sleep over when I was, like, in high school. Or actually, I was telling somebody the other day, I was talking to a dad, and he has high school kids. And he was like, my kids are just, like, always out at sleepovers and whatever. And I said, sleepovers, where he's like, their friend's house. And I'm like, oh, I never had a sleepover. Like, I never did that my whole life. Like, we weren't allowed.

[Kale Lowry]

Meanwhile, all I did was sleep over everybody else's house.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Kale's like, I don't even know where I lived.

[Kale Lowry]

No, like, who's Susie? Susie who?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Susie who?

[Kale Lowry]

Sue's house.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Wait, I have a bone to pick with you. An actual bone. So I text Kale yesterday at the airport, 6:25pm I think I have that disease at 6:43. Left me hanging for, like, a while.

[Kale Lowry]

Okay, to be fair, that was the same time that Rebecca texted me. Elliot had my phone because he was trying to beat a level of a game that I play.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Well, when someone's texting you, I think I have that disease. Wouldn't that be, like, a sign for Elliot to be like, oh, Mom, Lindsay has a disease. Here's your phone.

[Kale Lowry]

I don't have text preview on. Oh, and it was probably on DND if I had to guess, because he probably didn't get the little drop down.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Kale would freak out because everybody knows my phone password ex husband Jackson.

[Kale Lowry]

Everybody knows Hunter to get into my. My camera roll. I think you do too. Oh, no, my camera roll is fine. But my text. If you don't have my face, you can't read a text.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

So I said, kale says, what disease? I said, you know, the one where you hate people eating apples or, like, crunchy stuff? And she goes, no, I've never heard of that, Lindsay. I said, well, it's some kind of disease. Ask someone, because it's called something specific, and I have it. Are you ready for the next text? Is the class ready for the next text that I received?

[Kale Lowry]

Lissa, are you listening?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Hi, Kale in all caps. I'm landing. A fart just escaped me in the shower in front of Ike. What do I do?

[Kale Lowry]

Oh, I'll do you one better. Where's my phone? She sends an audio message, whispering, whispering. She's like, wait, I'll play it. I texted you first, and then you. Because you didn't answer, and you didn't answer.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Well, you didn't answer me about my disease.

[Kale Lowry]

So I had to send them a voice note because nobody's answering me because. Because I was in the shower. It almost was, like, a wet one. Like a wet fart. It wasn't. Yeah, almost like a queefy fart. No, it was because of the water. It wasn't because it was actually a wet fart. Like, I wasn't about to myself. Like. So this is. This is a voice note. It's 22 seconds long. Okay, you guys, if you can't hear me, I hope you can. A fart accidentally slipped out in the shower, and I heard it, and he was like, oh. Oh, my God. And I'm mortified, and I feel like I have to break up with him because I'm so embarrassed. What the do I do? The way that it went down. If you guys could understand.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Can you set the scene?

[Kale Lowry]

Yeah, I'm gonna set the scene. So we're. First of all, first day, no kids, right? Like, we're excited. We have read and took a nap and do all the things. I'm like, I'm. Take a hot girl shower. I need to, like, shave everything, wash my hair, do the whole nine. And he gets done in the shower before me. So he steps out, and the door is open, and he's talking to me, and it just slipped out. Like, it literally just.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

But, like, what did it sound like? Give us, like, farted.

[Kale Lowry]

And he go, wait. I go, excuse me, I farted.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Wait, what did the fart sound like, though?

[Kale Lowry]

It was like, a wet one.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

We'll do it.

[Kale Lowry]

Like, I don't know if I can. I wish he was here for the conversation. I can't. It was. I don't know how to describe it, because it was a wet.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Was it like. Was it like that?

[Kale Lowry]

No, it was, like, wet, like if. If you were about to have diarrhea. But it wasn't that. It was the water from the shower in my butt crack. Do you know what I mean?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah.

[Kale Lowry]

And so I go, excuse me, I just farted. And he goes, oh, wow. Oh, my God. And I'm like, all you had to do was say, it's okay. Don't worry about it. But you go, oh. Oh, my God. Okay. Like, why did you do that? Why did you say responding to that, not the fart? Yeah.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Why would you just not said anything?

[Kale Lowry]

Because I've never farted. It's. We've been together a year, and I never farted around him, but I was mortified. And then.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

The breakup thing is crazy.

[Kale Lowry]

I'm sorry. I just farted. Excuse me? I just farted. And the look on his face. And like, oh, my God. And I'm like, why? Why did you react like that? Like, I'm so embarrassed. Get out. But, like, I was so embarrassed.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

This is what I said. So mind you, I am still halfway in the air, but, like, enough to get service. Right? So in all caps, a fart just escaped me in the shower in front of Ike. What do I do?

[Kale Lowry]

Escaped me. It's Tracy. I didn't feel it coming. It was just so spontaneous. And I'm like, why did that happen to me? As if I'm not going through enough.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I said. I said, excuse me. This is what I wake up to when I land in Baltimore. I'm going home immediately. Like, I don't know what's crazier that she said that she's going to break up with Ike, or I'm about to board another flight to go home because of a flirt.

[Kale Lowry]

So I start screaming for Elliot because I'm like, get him out of the bathroom. And so I texted him.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Remember when you trail, like, in front of Elijah?

[Kale Lowry]

Yeah. I'm so thankful that hasn't happened in front of Ike. Oh, my God. Because Ike is the type to, like, be grossed out. You know what I mean? So I text him and I say, 7:45, and I'm like, I have to break up with Ike because a fart accidentally slipped out in the shower. And I'm mortified. I was screaming for you to come down because I don't know what to do. And he said, I thought I heard you yelling. And I said, and you didn't help me. And he goes. Because when I got to the stairs, everything Seemed fine. I said, it's not fine. I farted. And he said, oh, my God, you're disgusting. Now no man is gonna want you. Instead of breaking up with him, you're gonna have to keep him locked up in the house and never let him leave. I just love that you literally texted six people because nobody was responding. And it was emergency, by the way. I responded in two minutes, I think. I don't even think it was supposed to longer than two minutes, really. I think we were gayly, and I responded. I was so, like, somebody that tell me this is normal.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

That's insane. The fact that she was mass texting while farting, like, is crazy. Nobody was answering her because I was

[Kale Lowry]

so worked up about, like, his reaction. I was just like, get out. And I close the door because I'm so embarrassed. So now I'm worked up, and now I have to figure out, like, where do I go from here? Do you know what I mean?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

What do I do? Like.

[Kale Lowry]

Like, how do I recover from this? And, like, moving forward, do I just continue to fart in front of it?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yes. It's like one day, it's like, once the. The fart is out there, it's like, free reign to continue farting.

[Kale Lowry]

And I'm like, oh, okay.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

But I just don't know if it could be like, a. Actually, I don't think that I've ever fart. I never farted in front of Will. Never in front of. Actually, I don't think I've ever farted in front of anybody. Probably in my sleep if I farted.

[Kale Lowry]

I also am not like, a super gassy person, surprisingly. Like, I just don't regularly. Yeah, like, I'll myself, but I don't fart. It's kind of weird. And so then I'm like, what do I do? Like, what do I do now?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Well, this episode really took the turn.

[Kale Lowry]

And of course, it had to be in the shower, where Lux tells this reoccurring story to everyone he knows about me farting a coconut out my butt.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Wait, did you. In the shower?

[Kale Lowry]

He. No, he says that a coconut came out of my butt in the shower, and I have no idea what he's talking about. And I'm like, of course this would happen in the shower. And one of the first things that Lux told Ike when he met him was that I farted a coconut out in the shower.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Well, at least it wasn't. Hey, mom, what's that hairy?

[Kale Lowry]

Why does that hairy thing jiggle when you laugh? He's talking about this crazy insane.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

That is insane.

[Kale Lowry]

It's time to burn the house down.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Wait.

[Kale Lowry]

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[Lindsay Chrisley]

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[Kale Lowry]

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[Lindsay Chrisley]

Wait, but can we talk about the disease? Because it's, it really is. Yeah, I have that. I was sitting in the airport and there was a girl and I saw her like rubbing an apple and I was like, oh surely she's not going to eat that right beside me. And she did. And just like hearing the chomping, like going into the apple. And then I saw her, she passed me on the plane to go like farther back and I just hated her.

[Kale Lowry]

I love the sound of the first bite into an apple. The chewing, I could not I could get.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

But like you love the sound to hear somebody else do it. Like it's fine. I don't, I don't think the disease or the phobia, whatever it's called, like, I don't think it applies to like you doing it. It's like to hear somebody else, even

[Kale Lowry]

if somebody else bites into an apple like that first bite. I like the way it sounds. It doesn't bother me. But the chewing, I'm like, I don't care. It doesn't bother me.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Is it specific?

[Kale Lowry]

Just apples?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

No, it's just because she had an apple. It's just like all crunchy things. So like chips in a car or

[Kale Lowry]

the sound, the sound of people chewing?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah, like I cannot stand it.

[Kale Lowry]

That's Elliot too. Don't chew around Elliot. He just, he. He's grossed out by it.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Well, not only does it gross me out, it's just like, it just does something to my ears.

[Kale Lowry]

What causes that? Trauma? Misophonia or phobia is a neurological disorder where specific sounds trigger intense emotional, psychological and behavioral behavioral responses. While often character characterized as fight or flight reaction. While the exact cause is unknown, it is believed to stem from abnormal connectivity between the brain's auditory processing and emotion regulation systems, often involving hyper reactivity to sensory stimuli. Okay, well, I'm way over neurodivergence, Autism spectrum disorder and ADHD Psychiatric conditions. Obsessive compulsive disorder, Anxiety and depression. Or tinnitus and hearing loss. That's related to all of those.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Okay. I can tell you, if I can get away from it, it's like a controlled something. So I can get up and, like, move away from it and I'll be fine. But if I am in a car and someone thinks that they're gonna have a bag of chips or they're gonna be smacking. Get out. Like, on the freeway, get out. Because we're not doing this. Wait, are we insane?

[Kale Lowry]

Yeah. Yeah, no doubt. We're lunatics and psychopaths, for sure.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Okay, well, we are going to play a game.

[Kale Lowry]

We're gonna play a game called we're not really strangers. I actually have no idea what this game is. Okay. Note from the creator.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Don't cheat.

[Kale Lowry]

Yeah. Or worms will come out your butt and you will not get a job as an adult. Okay. This is from the creator. I have found there are two ways to play this game. One, play safe. Two, play to grow. The second is how you win. This is reflection. Okay, so level one is perception. Level two is connection. Level is reflection. First question, wild card.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Okay.

[Kale Lowry]

Play a round of rock, paper, scissors. Winner can ask anything. Their. Winner can ask their partner anything. Loser must answer. Ready? Wait.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Whoever wins rock, paper, scissors gets to ask the partner anything?

[Kale Lowry]

Yes.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Okay.

[Kale Lowry]

I already have my question for you. Okay. Because when I'm win, which I will. Okay, ready?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Like, why would you say it like that? Like, I'm a loser.

[Kale Lowry]

Let's go. Rock, paper, scissor. Shoot. I win. When was the last time you had sex with Will Campbell?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Last time I had sex with Will Campbell was before David. But not quickly before David.

[Kale Lowry]

That is not an answer. Really?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

20, 24.

[Kale Lowry]

Okay.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah. Well, I wish I could tell you another answer, but wouldn't be true.

[Kale Lowry]

Okay. All right, let me just.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Don't even remember what that man looks like below the belt.

[Kale Lowry]

Who? Will Campbell? Yeah.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Oh, I don't know what he looks like. You just forget, you know, have you ever, like. Have you ever been in a relationship where you're, like, so sexually comfortable with somebody and you're like, I really can't imagine not being with that person. And then you move on, and then you forget what it was like.

[Kale Lowry]

Yes, Keels.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Like, I have never been sexually comfortable, but I have seven children. Okay, next question.

[Kale Lowry]

This is more for both of us.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Okay.

[Kale Lowry]

But I'm gonna read it as it is. Okay. What do you think I should know about myself that perhaps I'm Unaware of.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Kale thinks she's not funny. Like, you think you're not funny.

[Kale Lowry]

Okay, I'll accept that.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Like, some of the stuff that Kale says sometimes, like, it's so unhinged that it's like, not a normal person would say that.

[Kale Lowry]

So you think I'm not normal?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Correct.

[Kale Lowry]

Oh, that's what I was. I was waiting for you to be like. No, I didn't say all that.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I did say all that.

[Kale Lowry]

Okay. Something that you should know about yourself that I think you might be unaware of. Let me think. Because I feel like you're very self aware and I don't.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Doesn't mean I make all the right decisions. I'm self aware of the wrong ones.

[Kale Lowry]

Yeah, but even when you make a decision that's not good for you, I feel like you still. But you already know that. Like, you still come to the right conclusion, I feel. And sometimes you have to make those decisions on your own to, like, really learn the lesson and, like, really get. We know we might not be making the right decision, but we have to do it anyway to learn the hard way, to get it through our heads kind of deal.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Do you know what? Can we talk about that for a second? Because I've struggled with that since probably birth. My dad used to.

[Kale Lowry]

1989.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

1989. When I came out. My dad always used to say, I have been there before. You need to learn the decisions from what I know. Like, you need to learn the. What is it?

[Kale Lowry]

The do as I say, not as I do.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah, like, I already learned it. So, like, you can learn from my experience so you don't have to live it and it just doesn't work that way. Like, no, that's. See, that's not how this works. I'm gonna make every wrong decision, and then I'm gonna learn it.

[Kale Lowry]

Well, because I feel like you think we're. We. We think that it's going to end up differently. So even if we know this might not be good, we hope to surprise ourselves with a different outcome. I think that's why we do it. I don't know that for sure. It's just my, like, I get my guess. But what is something that Lindsay is like, you should know about yourself? The first thing that comes to mind is like, But I don't know that this necessarily fits. The question is, like, that people really love you. Like, you really are. And I know that sometimes you're a little bit. I don't want to say cold, but, like, cold person. Unguarded.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah.

[Kale Lowry]

Like, people really Love you. And it is okay to let some people in.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

That is very true about me. Very.

[Kale Lowry]

Like, I think you're, like, afraid sometimes and like, maybe you don't even realize that it is like more of like a fear than it is intentional. Like a subconscious fear, but like your consciousness is telling you to be cold instead.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Like, I live in such a guarded state that it's almost like a choice to be lonely. But then I'm like, I don't want to be lonely, but I also won't let anybody in. And that is a fear based decision because it's like, if I don't let that person in, then they can't hurt me. Yeah, well, because I feel like I've lived a. And I don't want to talk negatively about them, but like a public abandonment for the entire time that I've been known in the public and then dealt with that through childhood. So it's just like, okay if I don't even. In relationships, I'm like that. I'm like, if I hold like this little part of me, I still hold the cards to where you can't hurt me because you can only get so close.

[Kale Lowry]

Yeah. And then I'm gonna go into protection mode. And guards are back up. They were only down a little bit, but they're back up, back up. Yeah, I would. I could see that.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

That's so true though.

[Kale Lowry]

The next one is, if we were in a band, what would our name be? The Lunatics. The Psychopaths.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

The Maniacs.

[Kale Lowry]

The Maniacs.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah. I feel like that's really catchy. The Maniacs.

[Kale Lowry]

The Maniacs.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Kitty Crushers.

[Kale Lowry]

Kitty Crushers is crazy wild. Honestly. Love that. That's our next sticker merch is the Lunatic.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Can you imagine us being in the next.

[Kale Lowry]

Being in a band? First of all, what interest? I played the trumpet in sixth grade.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Oh, I'm not playing an instrument. You had to play an instrument to be in a band.

[Kale Lowry]

Well, what else are you gonna do? Stand there and look pretty?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yes. Sway my hips a little bit.

[Kale Lowry]

I have no rhythm, so that's not happening. Over here.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Sway the hips a little bit and do a little singing that I can't do.

[Kale Lowry]

Okay.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I always said, you know what? I used to want to be in pageants. Like when I was growing up. I just thought it was like, cool thing to do.

[Kale Lowry]

Yeah.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Although I in my adulthood now, I'm like, I'm glad I never did that because I don't think it's a super healthy thing. Just my opinion.

[Kale Lowry]

Yeah, No, I would agree, but I

[Lindsay Chrisley]

always wanted to be in pageants and I'm like, well, I could only be in a certain circuit because I have no talents. So I would have to find a talent, you know, like, to be honest

[Kale Lowry]

though, some of the ones that I've seen on tv, they also don't really have talent and they're just like making something up.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

But see, I didn't want to be a part of the making it up, right? It's like I need to have an actual talent to do that. And the only people that are participating should have an actual talent, you know?

[Kale Lowry]

Do you feel like you have a talent? No, I also don't feel like I have a talent.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Like, what would it be? Talking is a talent.

[Kale Lowry]

So for real, like, digging deep, like a legitimate talent. I don't have any.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Well, talking is a talent. We've made that a career. You know, like dancing, playing an instrument. I don't know what else you do as a talent. Like, what's a talent?

[Kale Lowry]

Multiple languages.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Is that talent?

[Kale Lowry]

Play an instrument. Oh, what is the cups.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Can you imagine me and Kale going to a beauty pageant and we come out and we're just like playing with glasses?

[Kale Lowry]

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[Lindsay Chrisley]

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[Kale Lowry]

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[Lindsay Chrisley]

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[Kale Lowry]

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[Lindsay Chrisley]

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[Kale Lowry]

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[Lindsay Chrisley]

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[Kale Lowry]

Could you imagine? We just like show up to tour and then we don't have like a grant, have a grand entrance, and we're

[Lindsay Chrisley]

just playing cups, just sitting there silent.

[Kale Lowry]

We're like. What are they called? Mimes. And like everybody is loading into the freaking room, like into the venue.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Very like step brother esque, you know, Straight face kill. I would never be straight face.

[Kale Lowry]

Should we do that? Can we? No.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

And it's like one of us is doing it and one of us walks out and we're like, we're just kidding. No, we're not.

[Kale Lowry]

We're just kidding. This, this is the mental state we're in right now. Please help us. My first entra, first entrance in Indianapolis is we filter in with the crowds and we're sitting in the audience doing that.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Playing with cups. No cops. I think is the thing where you like bounce them, right? Isn't that like a thing? Yeah, it's like, you know, like where they like, do the rhythm for the cup.

[Kale Lowry]

Then what's bowls? This is bowls.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Kale, I think you just made that up.

[Kale Lowry]

Oh, I was thinking of the little like a sound bowl. What I'm talking about. I thought we were talking about that the whole time. That's like the. A sound bath.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

A sound bath? Yeah.

[Kale Lowry]

I want to show you guys. Hi, friends. Welcome to your sound bath. This is a very grounding, soothing and deeply relaxed.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I'm not being involved in any part

[Kale Lowry]

of that singing ball sound meditation.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

People hear that and they think they're going to a spa, but really they're there to see us. That's terrifying.

[Kale Lowry]

That's what I thought we were talking about this whole time.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

That's insane. That is not what I was talking about.

[Kale Lowry]

Okay, how would you describe me to a stranger?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Like, if I'm looking for you, like you're lost. No, like, I'm giving a description of, like, what you're like.

[Kale Lowry]

Yes.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Why would I be talking about you to a stranger?

[Kale Lowry]

Like, oh, my friend. Like, I want to introduce you to my friend Kale, you know, and then describe how Kale is.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Wow.

[Kale Lowry]

I would say if I'm like, oh, I want you to just. I want to introduce you to Lindsay. I would say she's so quick witted, so be careful because she might throw in a couple. Like, to be funny, not to be a dick. I would say she might come off cold or a little abrasive, but she doesn't mean anything by it and she likes a good white claw.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Okay, great description. If I was describing Kale to a stranger. Sorry, I thought she was missing.

[Kale Lowry]

I mean, I might be soon.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Okay. I would say at first, Kale might come off a little shy.

[Kale Lowry]

Okay.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

But if you're in the room for five minutes, she might cry, she might scream, you might take a phone call. She farts and shits a lot.

[Kale Lowry]

You're like, hey, I want to introduce you to my friend Kale. She might talk, she might tell you that she her pants. The first time you ever talk to her, just ignore it and keep it pushing. Yes, yes, Sounds about right.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah, that's about it.

[Kale Lowry]

Okay. Okay, Solid. Has a stranger ever changed your life?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

A stranger?

[Kale Lowry]

Yes, you.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I don't know any strangers.

[Kale Lowry]

We signed this podcast deal as strangers. So you, in fact changed my life.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Well, then I guess you changed my life. But I didn't really feel like we were like strangers.

[Kale Lowry]

I knew who you were, but I had never met you. We signed a business contract without ever meeting.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

That's not the craziest thing we've ever done.

[Kale Lowry]

Is it not?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I could think of a lot of crazier things since December.

[Kale Lowry]

I actually don't believe that that was a time where I had the original contract looked at by an attorney. And I don't think that Kristen came on to coffee combos for three, four years.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

She didn't. So we were running that.

[Kale Lowry]

We basically just were strangers and starting a business and signed contracts.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I mean, it was a smart business move.

[Kale Lowry]

It really was. And I was apprehensive because I had never started a podcast before and everybody at school told me, like, the professors were like, no money in podcast. My old agent at the time his name was Mark, and he's like, there's no money in podcasting. Don't do it. But nobody. No. The contract. No. Kristen didn't look at the contract. Nobody looked at anything. I was just like, all right, it, like, I don't have anything to lose. And then, you know, it didn't even start off making money right away either.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Meanwhile, me, I'm just on a Delta plane and reading a magazine, and I'm like, I don't know what those charts are, but it says podcasts are going to be doing really good. So gonna do it.

[Kale Lowry]

I think you said that. Yeah, you said that.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah.

[Kale Lowry]

And then I guess it would have been, like, around three, four years maybe, that Kristen came around.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Correct.

[Kale Lowry]

Correct.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

That is correct.

[Kale Lowry]

This next question is mainly for me. What's the best compliment a stranger has ever given you? Well, chat. GPT said I was good at marketing, so please. Oh, this is a good. This is a cute.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

He doesn't need AI for what? Anything.

[Kale Lowry]

I went to psychosis. I think you're right. Okay, what title would you give this chapter in your life?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

As bad as this chapter has been? I feel like the title that I would give would be ironic for as bad as it's been, but grateful and healing.

[Kale Lowry]

Mine would be grateful, thankful, blessed. Because as bad as it is, we talked about this before. Things are going to be okay. And I'm in a spot in my life where I am able to recover from all that has been done, where previously I could not have said. Like, I couldn't probably have said that. So I feel like I would still

[Lindsay Chrisley]

be to the point you got to go through it yourself. Somebody else can't teach you that.

[Kale Lowry]

Yeah, 1,000%. Okay. What do you crave more of?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

More of what?

[Kale Lowry]

Clams. Huh? Not clams. Oysters.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

What are you talking about? You said, what do you crave more of? And didn't give. Choices.

[Kale Lowry]

There's no choice. It's just, what would you crave more?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Question doesn't even make sense.

[Kale Lowry]

Kale, do you crave more oysters?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Silence. Silence.

[Kale Lowry]

You crave more silence? Yeah. Okay.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Like, that's a, that is a full time life craving for me.

[Kale Lowry]

Fair. I crave more cave time.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

More cave time?

[Kale Lowry]

Yeah, I, I, I crave to find a cave and be stuck in it.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I would used to say that Kale's answer would used to be, I crave more chaos, but I feel like she's out of that.

[Kale Lowry]

Yeah, I'm like, chaos is just like the, the theme, I guess, still, but, like, truly Crave. Crave more calmness.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Agreed.

[Kale Lowry]

Chaos. Calm. Cave.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Cave is crazy.

[Kale Lowry]

Wait, a new book title. So all my book titles are like, Pride Over Pity. So it's two P's, and then Hustle and Heart is two H's, and then Letters of Love is two L's. How do I do cave? It's like, we don't. The calming in the cave. No, the calm cave.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

We're just gonna not do that book deal.

[Kale Lowry]

Okay. What would your younger self not believe about your life today?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

That I would have been cheated on so many times.

[Kale Lowry]

Oh, I mean, same. I would say four baby dads. Genuinely, truly. Like, my younger self never. Well, first of all, my younger self wouldn't believe I had seven kids because I didn't want one. Kids. Yeah. The second thing is, with four people, Genuinely, I wasn't like, if you really think about it, none of my baby dads have, like, breeding qualities that people look for. Like, when you think about dogs and you're like, okay, you pick the dogs with the best qualities, right? Or animals in general. People say that, like, in the south, fittest. And it's like, you pick. Do you get what I'm saying, though?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

People say that in the South. Like, men say that, like, she would be a good breeder.

[Kale Lowry]

Like, it's not funny. And I'm not. I'm comparing myself to a dog in the sense that, like, nobody should have sought me out to breed. Nobody should be procreated with me.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I don't like that a man would say, she would be a good breeder, but I feel like it's a compliment but just, like, in a shitty way. You know what I mean? For sure.

[Kale Lowry]

Because, like, you have, like, you really should think about the qualities of the person. And I'm talking, like, starting mentally. Like, let's do a deep dive there, right? Like, before we think about procreating, let's talk about the mental health. What runs in your family, you know, those types of things. Genetic quality, qualities there and then, unfortunately, you do have to look at physical attributes, right? Like, if you're trying to raise a D1 baby, what the. Was I doing breeding with men that were shorter than me?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I can't answer that question for you. You just must have liked people who were short, who weren't kings. I don't know.

[Kale Lowry]

I was desperate for attention and to be loved because I look at it now, and it's like,

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Will told me that I wasn't a good breeder.

[Kale Lowry]

Oh, why?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Because I'm short. And then I brought down the gene pool because he's.

[Kale Lowry]

If any of my baby dad said that you brought down the gene pole. Pool pool pole. I was taking. Sorry, I was thinking about only fans.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

This is crazy. No, he really did say that.

[Kale Lowry]

That.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

He said that. That's why Jackson will be short if he is.

[Kale Lowry]

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[Lindsay Chrisley]

I love skims. Their pajamas, their panties, and I know that I am not a panty wearer, but it is just so good. I was wearing the everyday cotton skim scoop bralette at Pilates this morning. I absolutely love the everybody scoop bralette. It is one of my favorite pieces to grab from my closet. If you have not tried it, it is so good. But they also have an everyday cotton hipster kale. Have you tried that yet?

[Kale Lowry]

Yes, I have. Every single option they have in their everyday cotton line because I love skims that much and every single thing they put out, I'm like, I need this, obviously in every color.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

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[Kale Lowry]

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[Lindsay Chrisley]

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[Kale Lowry]

Good reason.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

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[Kale Lowry]

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[Lindsay Chrisley]

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[Kale Lowry]

If you know you've Erbo. Do you want to hear a text I got from the tour manager that I met three times in real life? Yeah. He said this to me.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Do you know the level of psychosis this episode is?

[Kale Lowry]

I just want you to know that yesterday I had a little mini panic attack because I was like, oh, my God, I haven't heard from Oscar in a few days. Like, he hates my guts. And then I went into the fatherless behavior group chat that we have, and I saw that you replied to things that I said, and I don't know how I not read them. Like, I don't even remember getting those notifications. And I, like, calmed down a little bit because I'm like, okay, maybe he doesn't hate me, but do you hate me because of my ticket sales? I feel like it'll get better. It's just like, nobody understands what a podcast tour is. So now we're trying to build out, like, what we're advertised. Like, do you hate me or.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Craziest thing I've ever heard.

[Kale Lowry]

Do you know what he said? You know, you're. You. You're crazy. You know that, right? That was his response. And I met him three times.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

No, Kale, it was the.

[Kale Lowry]

It was that bad.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

It wasn't from him meeting you. Like, I feel like a lot of times you miss the boat on why people think, like, a certain thing, you know? And it's like, did you think about the voice memo that you sent him?

[Kale Lowry]

I was explaining. I was giving context.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I know, but it was. It was so all over the place. You're like, I mean, people don't know what a podcast tour is. And, like, I promise it'll get better.

[Kale Lowry]

And honestly, the ticket sales are not bad. I was just. I check it so religiously that, no, I wasn't lying. But, like, I feel like if I say that they're not that great, and then I'll be excited when they are. But, like, they're fine.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Like, they're me checking the percentages for the Webbies.

[Kale Lowry]

Also that.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah.

[Kale Lowry]

So I'm, like, staying on top of it. And, like, literally told you not to do that. Yep. And he literally told me, you know you're crazy, right? Well, that audio message, it was crazy. Was I medic Sweet when you weren't medicated. It's like, that board, like, is this inappropriate for, like, a. I don't even like to call myself, like, anyone's boss, but, like, is it, like, will I get sued for the pizza? Well, because it's like, it's like, unsolicited.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

He. A lot of things you do is unsolicited.

[Kale Lowry]

Listen, we're not, like, texting you. Be like, hey, Kale, did you order two pizzas?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

She's like, I found it.

[Kale Lowry]

Can you play it? I don't know if this is, like, inappropriate, because I'm like, quote, unquote, I a like Yalls boss. I don't. That makes me really uncomfortable. But I don't know who else to tell this to, so I'm. I'm just sending you a voice note of what just happened to me. I placed an order with Pizza Hut online because I was hungry for book club. Not hungry for book club. I was hungry, and it was about to be book club. So I placed this order, and like, almost an hour goes by. It's like 50 minutes or like 55 minutes, and I'm like, where the is this pizza? So I like, call the number that's on my confirmed email, and it's like, we're closed due to inclement weather.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Blizzard.

[Kale Lowry]

Okay, Well, I paid 41.58 for this pizza to get delivered, and you're closed, so. Okay, I'll get my money back tomorrow when you guys are open. Great. Love that. For y', all, place another order at this place that is open called Vincenzo's. That one's $30. Great. Love that. For me, Rebecca just calls me on my cell phone and says, hey, did you hear the doorbell at the content house? Because there's somebody there with pizza. And I'm like, but the. What do you mean? Because they said that they're closed due to inclement. Due to inclement weather. So I placed an order somewhere else for, like, 30 something dollars. You guys, I feel like I'm losing my mind. Like, something like I'm losing my mind. And I. Are we all concerned or is it the weather? Like, what is going on?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Is it the weather?

[Kale Lowry]

All of her employees the story is just that she ordered two pizzas. Now that you've played that about six weeks later, sometimes there might be something wrong.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Sometimes Kale will send an audio message and it will be the extreme level of psycho. Like, she'll be like, well, I'm driving. And then it's like she's screaming at one of the kids, but she's like, stop right now. I'm. I'm talking. And then she'll continue on and she'll be like, oh, sorry, if. If it's not like, you can read it if it's like, too long or whatever. Like, sorry, but I don't know if the words will be like, right.

[Kale Lowry]

What are you talking about? It just wasn't. I thought it was fine, and then it's. And I don't like Gil. I just. But now it's just like. I don't know, Like, I feel like I'm mostly, like, easygoing with all my girls that, like, work together. And, like, I don't.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

We were just trying to figure out where the story from the pizza was going.

[Kale Lowry]

Yeah, I just, you know, it. I don't know.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Move on. Move on.

[Kale Lowry]

It's just like, you know, what's in a. Because I don't know, like, what's actually appropriate. Because Techn. Like, I don't like to say that I'm a boss. Like, but, like, as an owner, I'll say, as the owner of a company, I don't know what is, like, borderline or, like, crossing a line or, like, can I share personal information?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Now that we've gone into a complete state of psychosis, what would be one wish that you could tell your younger selves before signing on tv?

[Kale Lowry]

Having an attorney look over your contract, put residuals in there, any reruns, any other deals in the future have to be paid?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I would definitely say to have my own attorney. I would also say don't give in to production demands that don't align.

[Kale Lowry]

I would also say, anything you don't want to talk about, do not mention it in any way, shape or form, in any capacity while you're filming on set. Don't mention it to a producer. Don't mention it while you're mic'd up, don't mention it ever. Because if you don't talk about it, they can't film about it. And that's from my experience.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I would agree with that. I would also. I would also say be careful about who you develop personal relationships with while working with crew because they are there to do a job and their Job is to work with the production company and with the network, and that is to deliver what they feel like is good tv. So regardless whether you feel like you don't want to talk about something, they're going to exploit it if it's going to make them money 1000%. And on that note, we have foul play.

[Kale Lowry]

Okay. Last fall, my grandpa got sick. I was 39 weeks pregnant and ready to go into labor. He ended up needing to stay. Oh, he ended up. He ended up needing to stay a week, but would return home eventually. I don't know what that means, but. But, well, he was hospitalized, and we were told he was not going to be returning to normal health. They live in an old farmhouse. So after I gave birth, freshly. Freshly postpartum by three days, my sister and I went to their house. Their house to help my grandmother move their bedroom from upstairs to downstairs. Grandma's at the hospital. My sister's doing the heavy lifting by moving their bed. I decided to just do the night.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I know where this is going.

[Kale Lowry]

Let me take out the drawers first. I open the first drawer, and boom. Handcuffs. Analyzer. Analyzer.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Analyzer.

[Kale Lowry]

And lube. I opened the next drawer, and I saw was lace and chains. Before I decided, nope, I'm just gonna leave this one here to save everyone's embarrassment. Granny and grandpa are getting down the rest of the day. We laughed and joked all day about how they still got it. I went there a couple weeks later once my grandfather was home, and sure enough, he had moved the nightstand down. My mom, sister, and I couldn't help but laugh out loud when we saw it. Could you imagine seeing your grandpar anal stuff and lube?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

No, I could not. I don't even want to imagine that my grandparents ever did that. Like, obviously, I know, like, how we got here. We can talk about the birds and the bees, but, like, grandparents doing that. I wonder, like, at what age you really stop having, like, sex for men.

[Kale Lowry]

Never. Here's the thing. Before I. I'm going to destroy everything. Like, no one's finding my vibrators. No one is finding anything that belongs to me anymore. Smashing my electronics before I off myself. Because nobody needs to be subjected.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I just feel like there's got to be people who are listening to this. There's got to be an age where you're just like, okay, I'm kind of, like, hanging up that part of my life. Like, at what point is that?

[Kale Lowry]

I mean, I. When. When Ike moved in, I was like,

[Lindsay Chrisley]

okay, no, not that. I'm talking about, like, sex in general, like, at what point does your relationship just become like more of a friendship and you're just like hanging out out. Oh, like in your older age, at

[Kale Lowry]

what, what year in your marriage or relationship? Yeah, that's a great question. When I think back to my grandparents, they were married for 50 years when they died. And like, surely they weren't. And they were in their. I mean, my grandma got Alzheimer's when she was in her 60s, so I feel like they probably stopped by the time they were 45. 50 hill.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I'm 36. There's no way I'm stopping by the time I'm 45.

[Kale Lowry]

Did I say 45? Yeah. Oh, I meant 55.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

But like, what are you do. I guess my question is, is then what are you doing with each other?

[Kale Lowry]

Using a lot of lube, like looking at each other. What do you mean? Like on. During the day? Yeah, like, okay, so you're that age. Some of my most favorite childhood memories are with my grandparents. And my grandparents were like regular grandparents age. Like I remember them being in their 50s and stuff like that. My grandparents always made a mixed drink and they would sit out on the swing on their front porch. They had a swing that hung from the like a. Like a bench swing. Yeah. My grandma was big gardener. My grandfather always worked. He did woodworking and he worked on guns, like people's like hunting rifles. And then he also did just like yard work. Like that's the like. And they just.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

So at that age, is that where like hobbies really come in? Like I would say, so zone into like your hobbies? Like, I don't have any of those. Okay. Everyone is talking about GLP1s right now. We love talking about Roe because Roe offers the first FDA approved GLP1 pill for weight loss at the lowest cost around. The new GLP1 pill has the same weight loss ingredients as the shot, impacts comparable results to the shot, and it can help patients lose lose 14 of their body weight in a year on average. That's one daily pill for fewer cravings and filling fuller with an innovative new formula.

[Kale Lowry]

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[Lindsay Chrisley]

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[Kale Lowry]

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[Kale Lowry]

and strengthen the pack. So there's only three grandchildren on my mom's side, me and my two younger cousins, first cousins, so we and there's 15 years between me and my first cousin. Okay, so I was pretty much the only one for forever. And then when I moved away then they had two more so they got, you know, she got close with them. But I would say that they definitely had hobbies because I mean they weren't seeing the grandkids all the time. I never saw Them after the age of, I think the last time I saw them or was like 14 years old, something like that. Wow. So. And then once we moved away, I never saw them again until they died. Died.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Oh, my gosh.

[Kale Lowry]

Yeah. So that's another trauma. Oh, for sure. Because they were also helped raise me, you know, so that was hard. But what I was gonna say was they had to figure out, like, how to stay busy for their days. You know what I mean? So it was like woodworking, yard work, gardening.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I swear, like, the older that people get that are around me, I hear all the time people say, oh, I'm so much busier, like, now that I'm retired. And I'm like, what are you bus doing?

[Kale Lowry]

All the things that they couldn't do when they were working.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

So it's like they can just like actually tend to their life at that point.

[Kale Lowry]

Which is so interesting because when I think about, like, my grandma never worked.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

What do you mean?

[Kale Lowry]

My grandma didn't work.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

She was just a stay at home mom.

[Kale Lowry]

Yeah.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Oh, wow.

[Kale Lowry]

She never worked.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

See, I'm. I'm kind of. You know what I told somebody, Was it you? That I told the other day that I was like, I could really get behind like that. Stay at home mom, stay at home wife, life, you know, I don't think

[Kale Lowry]

I could do it. I think that.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I think it just sounds appealing now because of things that we've been through.

[Kale Lowry]

Yeah.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I'm like, that sounds really good right now.

[Kale Lowry]

I loved it when I was just staying at. But like before the podcast, like all three of them, I loved being a stay at home mom, but there was also times where I was. I knew I was ready to go back to work. Like, I knew I was ready for something new, whether it be part time, full time, whatever. And not because I didn't want to raise my kids, but because I wanted something to do.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah, it filled your cup.

[Kale Lowry]

Outside of raising, like, it wasn't even for financial purposes. It was like I was just ready to do something. Yeah, that. That's when I. Like when I get bored and I went back to school and, you know, whatever. I even told Podcast one. I was like, if we're getting a sponsor from Penn Foster, can I take a paralegal class? And she was like, are you serious? And I was like, yeah, if they're sponsoring us, why can't I take a paralegal class? Well, I didn't say that to her, but in my head, I'm like, yeah, like, I'm. It's about that time Where I'm starting to get more deuce. I need to do something.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Wow. Kale.

[Kale Lowry]

You know, bored. A challenge, if you will. A healthy challenge.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

A challenge, Right. Life is challenging. Right now. I'm like, a challenge. Sounds terrible.

[Kale Lowry]

Okay, so maybe I'm wording it wrong. I need a distraction.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah.

[Kale Lowry]

So what better way to do it than then do a certificate of some sort? I want. I want to get my paralegal certificate so I can be a paralegal and file charges on these hoes.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

File charges on these hoses.

[Kale Lowry]

File the. File the initial lawsuits right off the bat so that way I don't have to pay the legal team to do that for me. First of all, no law firm. I'm a liability 1000%. No law firm is ever hiring me, me.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Ever.

[Kale Lowry]

You're gonna talk about this on your podcast? I'd be like you. You were just talking about the case that we were trying to get a gag order on.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Kale, before we go, I really need to ask you about the other business, since you're looking for hobbies. Remember how we said that we were gonna do, like a co parenting business? Middle point?

[Kale Lowry]

Well, it was just another idea.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Kill. We've never had that conversation before in our life.

[Kale Lowry]

I'm telling you right now.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Oh, like that was another thing you came up with?

[Kale Lowry]

With. Yeah.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Okay, well, I had told Becky that you and I were going to do, like, this co parent thing.

[Kale Lowry]

We are.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

On that note, join us on the Fatherless Behavior tour this summer. Tickets@kale Lowry.com thank you for always supporting our show. Please subscribe and review on the Apple podcast app. Follow and rate on Spotify or listen wherever you get your pods. For our latest merch, visit CoffeeConvos podcast.com to shop. Full video episodes are available on kale's [e-mail] Kayl Lowery. Please don't. Please don't forget to follow us on Instagram and join our Facebook group to connect with us and our community. I'm so sorry for the listeners of Coffee Combo's podcast that had to endure this chaotic episode. We love you guys so much, and we'll talk to you soon.

[Kale Lowry]

See? Yeah. Hey, guys, we're back. You asked for it. And we're delivering. Killer is going on tour. We're super excited for the fatherless behavior tour. 23 cities, three countries, all in one summer. And you guys can check out tour dates and see if we're coming to a city near you on killlowrey.com and if you want early access to information and announcements. Head over to Patreon because you might get it before everyone else.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

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[Kale Lowry]

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[Lindsay Chrisley]

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