Fast Fashion, Women's Health & Social Etiquette

Summary

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Coffee Convos with Kail Lowry & Lindsie Chrisley

Episode: Fast Fashion, Women's Health & Social Etiquette
Date: October 16, 2025

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Episode Overview

In this energetic episode of Coffee Convos, Kail and Lindsie dive into relatable and current conversations surrounding women’s daily lives. They candidly discuss the pitfalls of fast fashion, reveal personal takes on women’s health and healthcare disparities, and debate the do’s and don’ts of social etiquette in both friendships and public spaces. With real-life anecdotes, listener questions, and honest opinions, the duo brings humor and vulnerability to parenting, personal style, and how to handle tricky social scenarios.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Hair Care Routines, Extensions & The Self-Care Generation

[02:07 - 07:38]

• Brazilian Blowouts & Hair Maintenance:

  • Kail raves about her new Brazilian blowout, marveling that her frizzy, unmanageable hair now dries in “seven minutes” after the shower.

    “I'm pretty sure you're putting formaldehyde on your head. Don't really care. Did it.” – Kail [03:28]

  • Lindsie shares her struggles with awkward hair lengths and laments the styling effort for newly washed hair.

• Extensions, Self-Care, and Generational Shifts:

  • Both remark on the boom of hair extensions among even middle-schoolers today, contrasting with their own adolescence when such routines were rare.
  • Kail notes:

    “Girls are doing the self care routines, the Ulta and Sephora hauls, having all the things that we just didn’t have.” [05:32]

• Financial Boundaries:

  • Discuss the costs and boundaries of beauty routines for kids. Lindsie sets clear limits with her daughter and considers the value of waiting.

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2. Decluttering, Minimalism, and Over-Consumption

[08:02 - 12:43]

• Bathroom Product Purge:

  • Kail describes her annual autumn “fixation” on decluttering her bathroom and discovering expired products she bought on sale.

    “At the point that I realized I was ordering stuff off of Amazon and I couldn't wash it at home because I knew it was going to fall apart ... what am I doing?” – Kail [14:51]

• Approaching Beauty Minimalism:

  • Both agree that beauty “influencer” levels of product hoarding are unrealistic for most women.

    "I'll use it until the pan is showing." – Lindsie [09:57]

• Amazon Fashion and Fast Fashion Quality:

  • Lindsie rants about purchasing low-quality clothes, only for them to shrink or degrade after a couple washes:

    “I washed them and put them in the dryer and I can't wear them anymore. Like the quality is so bad with this fast fashion.” – Lindsie [11:10]

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3. Fast Fashion: Dupes vs. Investment Pieces

[15:42 - 18:44]

• Amazon “Dupes” Will Never Be Spanx:

  • Lindsie details her quest for affordable duplicates of high-end sets, but laments inconsistent sizing and declining quality between purchases—even from the same “dupe” brand.
  • Both recognize the ultimate value of buying fewer, quality staple pieces they’ll wear “to the ground.”

• Psychology of Outfits for Events:

  • Lindsie and Kail reflect on buying “event-specific” clothes, and how they’ve become more mindful, resisting impromptu purchases.

    “Now every time I see a cute shirt … I'm not buying it because it is so specific. I don't want to be seen in it again…” – Lindsie [18:44]

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4. Purging Closets & Second-Hand Solutions

[20:35 - 23:29]

• The Graphic Tee Dilemma:
  • Kail jokes she could trim her entire closet down to 10 items if she purged everything she didn’t wear—yet confesses to hoarding.
  • Lindsie suggests “grab bag” Poshmark bundles to “upcycle” unused graphic tees and baby clothes.
  • A brief discussion follows on etiquette: gifting baby items only to later see them resold. Both see “both sides” but agree gifts should come with no strings attached. [23:29]

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5. Spotlight: Women's Health Awareness & The Gender Care Gap

[26:32 - 34:00]

• TikTok Rant Sparks Discussion:

  • Lindsie is impressed by a viral TikTok where a man educates himself (and others) on the neglect of women’s health, gaining a new empathy for women’s pain and medical frustration:

    “I'm trying to tell you. I don't… I feel like women should be madder… because you go to the doctor and the doctor is so consistently condescending about your health.” – Male TikTok Creator (played by Kristen) [28:16]

• Medical Gaslighting & Diagnoses like IBS:

  • Lindsie highlights the overuse of “IBS” as a meaningless catch-all:

    “IBS is just, like, a term that doctors, like, throw at people because it's a catch all and it covers all the bases. It's not real.” – Lindsie [30:53]

• “Awareness Month” Critique:

  • Both critique the superficiality of “awareness months” where companies may profit without truly educating or supporting.

    “What is wearing the color actually doing? … if the shirt doesn't have resources … what is wearing the color really doing?” – Lindsie [31:56]

  • Kail agrees more impact comes from direct donation rather than buying “awareness” merchandise.

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6. Social Etiquette: Public Displays of Affection & Boundaries

[35:37 - 45:11]

• Plane PDA Gone Wrong:

  • Kail recounts the case of a man arrested for excessive PDA on a flight, sparking debate on what’s “acceptable” in public.

    “If I saw a man putting his hand in a woman's bra, my child was on that flight, I would raise mortal hell.” – Kail [37:14]

• Where’s The Line?

  • Both draw the line at public groping, with Lindsie wryly suggesting “Do porn if you want people to watch.”
  • Discussion about “Mile High Club” and bathroom hookups leads to agreement that the fantasy is better left unfulfilled.

    “I just generally don't agree with the excessive public display of affection—that should be for your bedroom or your house or your car or like places that you own, not just out in public.” –Kail [41:20]

• Sexual Energy in a Home:

  • Kail gets superstitious about “sexual energy” in her house, preferring to wait before inviting someone new into her home space:

    “I had a rule, like, I'm not having sex with anybody at this house unless I know they're here to stay.” – Kail [47:29]

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7. Listener Letters: Bachelorette Drama, Group Travel & Parenting Decisions

[48:42 - 63:26]

• Bachelorette Party Meltdown:

  • Lindsie summarizes a viral “AITA”-style drama: two bridesmaids disrupt a Cabo trip complaining about splitting an $800 bottle service tab, itemizing receipts, and airing dirty laundry on Reddit.
  • Lindsie’s take:

    "Stop committing to things that cost you money that you do not have. And yes, it is over $80 or $15, whatever the fuck. If you did not have a $100 cushion to pay for this situation, why are you even going?" – Lindsie [56:12]

  • Kail says:

    "There is no world where I would end a friendship over 80 bucks." [58:15]

  • Both agree that group travel requires flexibility, communication about budgets, and that friendship should trump nickel-and-diming.

• Field Trips & Parenting Etiquette:

  • Listener asks if it’s OK to tag along with a younger sibling on a first-grade field trip. Both suggest sitting it out, as it may detract from the child’s experience.

    "Bringing a younger sibling just, like, might not be the move." – Kail [61:37]

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8. Memorable “Foul Play” Story: When Numbing Cream Goes Wrong

[64:06 - 66:12]

• A listener sends in a sex story about using “anal ease” cream, only to accidentally numb both her mouth and her husband’s penis, leading to much laughter and debate about the merits (and drawbacks) of numbing creams, anal experimentation, and honest communication in the bedroom.

  “If I have to use numbing cream for my [butt], I don't want to do it.” – Lindsie [65:02]

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On Fast Fashion:

  "I'm not overstocking. I don't want to have things in my house or here that I think I want to try, and then I never get to, like, it's too much." – Lindsie [10:37]

• On Women's Health Advocacy:

  “Men need to focus on women's health. Because yesterday, somebody made a comment to me ... I have never met another woman that goes as hard as you do for women. And I said. And that's part of the problem.” – Lindsie [27:37]

• On Group Trip Etiquette:

  “Know your situation, know what situation that you're in, and plan and govern yourself accordingly.” – Kail [57:54]

• On Letting Go of Clothes:

  "I would probably have 10 items in there. Swear." – Kail [20:52]

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Key Timestamps

• [02:07] — Brazilian blowouts and awkward hair length chat
• [05:32] — Reflections on self-care and young girls’ beauty routines
• [09:11] — How sales and expired products lead to waste
• [11:10] — Lindsie’s rant on fast fashion quality
• [14:51] — Drawing the line on Amazon/fast fashion purchases
• [18:44] — Event-specific clothes and purchase regrets
• [20:52] — Graphic tee hoarding confessions
• [27:37] — Men's investment in women's health advocacy
• [30:53] — “IBS” as a non-diagnosis
• [31:56] — Pink ribbons and the true meaning of “awareness”
• [35:37] — Over-the-top PDA on public transportation
• [56:12] — Wedding, bachelorette, and group etiquette breakdown
• [61:37] — Listener question: field trips and younger siblings
• [64:06] — Hilarious listener sex story about numbing cream

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Tone & Style

• Candid & Relatable: Conversational, sometimes using strong language and humor
• Supportive, Yet Direct: Emphasizes boundaries (both financial & emotional), but always with an underlying tone of solidarity and “we’re all in this together” approach.

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Summary

In this episode, Kail and Lindsie navigate the ups and downs of being women, mothers, and friends in the public eye. They shed light on topics from fast fashion and beauty standards to deep-seated issues in women’s healthcare. The conversation moves honestly through personal experiences, cultural critiques, and listener dilemmas, rounding out with humor and a wild sex story. The result is an episode brimming with laughter, insight, and practical advice for women looking to make sense of modern adulthood.

Transcript

[Kayl]

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[Kayl]

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[Kayl]

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[Kayl]

I hate gift giving and receiving.

[Lindsay]

Receiving gifts is so weird. What do you say? Thank you.

[Kayl]

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[Lindsay]

Kayl, that does not interest me whatsoever.

[Kayl]

I feel very attacked by you. A spirited discussion about motherhood, friendship, family and life in the public eye. I'm just not with the fakery anymore.

[Lindsay]

There's a fakery bakery around here.

[Kayl]

Here's Kayl and Lindsay. Good morning, Kitty Cat. I love your shirt.

[Lindsay]

Thank you. I was saving it for this episode, actually. How are you?

[Kayl]

I'm doing good. Can we just have a little chat about hair for a second?

[Lindsay]

Yeah, sure.

[Kayl]

I got a Brazilian blowout and I just need to tell you like I've been telling everybody else who will listen to me that doesn't even care about my hair. Do it.

[Lindsay]

What does a Brazilian blowout do? Like, is it like right now my hair is at such an awkward length that like, I've been wearing it in a claw clip so often because it's either like curl it or it's at like this weird length that I. It's like a Robert. It's not a Bob, it's a Robert and I need to grow it out.

[Kayl]

We love a good Robert. I think it actually looks pretty cute like that. My hair is extremely frizzy and curly. And so if I get out of the shower and I decide to wash my hair, it's immediately like, I need to put serums in and blow dry it or I'm going to have to rewash it to fix it.

[Lindsay]

I put so much dry shampoo in my hair last night that it looks like it's clean.

[Kayl]

But does your hair. So when you wash it, if you just let it air dry, does it air dry like what it looks like now? No, it air dries. Crazy.

[Lindsay]

Yeah. It's not curly. Although I will say, like, I do have some like spiral curls down here. So like, maybe one day I'll have curly hair. I don't know. But it's not pleasant. Like, it's not pleasant in this current moment, but at least it's not super frizzy. If I just let my hair air dry. It looks insane.

[Kayl]

Okay. Mine also looks insane. So I was like, okay, I'm going to get the Brazilian blowout. I was debating whether doing like this newer version that's like less chemicals, whatever, but supposedly it doesn't do the same thing as the Brazilian blowout. I'm pretty sure you're putting formaldehyde on your head. Don't really care. Did it. And when I tell you last night I washed my hair. Now, this was not including the washing time, but from the time I got out of the shower, brush my hair, put my drying serum in, it was dry in seven minutes.

[Lindsay]

The hair washing process really quickly. I always see so much, like, social content or like, women that I talk to, like friends that I have that are like, g, it's hair wash day. Like, don't want to wash my hair. I don't want to wash my hair. I don't want to wash my hair. Washing my hair is not the problem. I don't care about washing my hair. The problem is I don't want to style it because it looks. I'm not great at hair to begin with. I don't want to blow dry it and then curl it or straighten it or do whatever the washing it itself is. But I also, I don't have extensions. I don't have blonde hair anymore. So I don't have to use purple shampoo so like the washing process is not it for like, I don't care about it.

[Kayl]

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that what you're saying is also what other women are trying to get across. I don't think it's the actual washing of it. I think it's the getting out of the shower and immediately doing something with it.

[Lindsay]

Okay, okay, okay, okay. I just wanted to like do a temp check there because I didn't understand unless it's the washing process for people who have extensions. Because when we were growing up, I don't know if it was like this in Atlanta or wherever you grew up, South Carolina and Tennessee. I feel like you're from all three. For me, nobody had extensions. I had extensions because my mom did hair and I begged her to do extensions for me. So I did have extensions for one or two years. But outside of that, like nobody had extensions. So it wasn't, they weren't as common as they are now. I feel like today everyone you meet has hair extensions at some point.

[Kayl]

It's so crazy that you say that because I see little middle school girls getting out in the like drop off line. Totally can tell they have extensions in their hair. And I just wonder if my parents would have ever allowed that. I don't think that they would have. Times are obviously very different now. Girls are doing the self care routines, the Ulton Sephora halls, having all the things that we just didn't have. We were putting, we were more moisturizing our face. It was because it was the same moisturizer that was going on our body. And now all the girls. Actually the woman who did my Brazilian blowout, she was telling me about her daughter and how she's a freshman in high school and of course she gives her things that probably a lot of other girls don't have because she's a stylist and whatever and how she has the extensions and she does a hair washing routine with her every single week. And I'm like, wow, I really wish that my mom was a hair stylist. And then I thought of you and I was like, even if my mom was a hair stylist, in your situation, you didn't get any perks of that.

[Lindsay]

I think the only perk I got a bowl cut. She was, she was, she did go get certified for like the, whatever the extensions were, the beaded ones my mom could do and she might still do, I don't know. And then the, the ones that have like that wax that you like Melt onto your hair.

[Kayl]

Oh, yeah, that. What are those things called? K tips?

[Lindsay]

Yeah, those were the two that I had. I had them in high school because I wanted crazy colors and they wouldn't stay, so my mom just gave me those. But it was like a full head. It was like a whole production.

[Kayl]

For my money, these girls at the middle school, they will get out and they have, like, Tencel extensions in their hair.

[Lindsay]

Oh. See, but like, that's kind of fun.

[Kayl]

No, it's so fun. But I'm like, back in the 90s, if we would have gone to our parents and said that we wanted to get hair extensions, they would have looked at us like we were fudgeing crazy.

[Lindsay]

1,000%. 1,000.

[Kayl]

Think about, like, all of the cost that is associated with that. All of the maintenance that is associated with that. Like, how much is too far?

[Lindsay]

That's a great question. I wonder that about, like, the Sephora and Ulta hauls, which just the cost in general. I. I don't know. I have been doing a deep dive on my own personal spending and I have huge financial goals that I'm trying to hit. I want. If Valley came to me today and said that she wanted hair extensions, the answer is no right now. You're going to have to wait until next year.

[Kayl]

Well, I mean, I get that. Also, I've been doing a deep dive on my bathroom.

[Lindsay]

Oh.

[Kayl]

And I don't know what got me into this phase. I feel like I always do this every fall. I must have had, like, a major trauma and fall at some point. Actually, I did. I don't even know why I'm sitting here trying to act like I'm fucking lying. Happens every time. Every fall. It's like the smell of the air causes me to do the most craziest things and, I don't know, trauma, that.

[Lindsay]

Is the car at the courthouse.

[Kayl]

Yeah, definitely. And, like, when I smell the air, I have to do things that, like, I can fixate on.

[Lindsay]

Yep.

[Kayl]

So my bathroom, for example, going through all of the products, looking at expiration dates. I used to be that girl that would go and buy shit on sale, which I don't really know how to shop sales that much. And I know that sounds crazy, but I'm just, like, not good at it, you know? I know there's a lot of people out there that are, like, super savers and they go out and find, like, the greatest deals. You were telling me about Kristen doing that. Just never really been my thing. Uh, but I did used to get in the habit of purchasing things that's like, oh, it's buy one, get one free, and I think I'm getting a deal, but really it's expired.

[Lindsay]

Oh, is that how that works?

[Kayl]

Yeah. And did you know that, like, makeup expires, Skincare expires? I had no idea about this until I got somebody to come and help me learn. An organization. I act like I'm, like, this super organized person, but really, like, at my core, I'm not. Everything in my house is organized, but, like, that's not really who I am. When I tell you the amount of products that are in a box upstairs that I did not use, that I thought that I was doing, like, this buy one, get one free thing, but really it just became buy one and one's trash is alarming. I'm really trying to focus on just the things that I use. Like, I don't need things in my bathroom that I might use.

[Lindsay]

The beauty influencers specifically that have this, like, insane amount of, like, makeup products. Like, I don't. I don't understand it. I'll never understand it. I literally have one of each thing in my house. Like, I don't. And I will use it until it's the pan is showing.

[Kayl]

When I came to Delaware, I put my makeup in a Ziploc bag, and I probably had six things, like, in total, because I've tried to, like, really perfect, like, a minimalized version of a makeup routine. You don't need all that.

[Lindsay]

No, agreed, completely.

[Kayl]

Like, who's doing all of that every single day? Because you're not.

[Lindsay]

No. And, like, for this content house, like, I went out and I bought one of each thing that I use at home so I don't have to travel it back and forth. But I'm not overdoing it. I'm not gonna overstock. I don't want to have things in my house or here that I think I want to try, and then I never get to, like, it's too much.

[Kayl]

I tend to agree with that also. Another thing that I've been doing is going through all of the Amazon sets that I have also over consumed. And I have found that why am I buying stuff in all of these colors that I'm not gonna wear?

[Lindsay]

I have a bone to pick with Amazon Fashion and TikTok shop. There have been a couple quality graphic tees that I've gotten from Tick Tock Shop that I'm assuming is, like. So a lot of the things on Tick Tock Shop are also on Amazon. And I don't know if anyone realizes that a Couple of them are sort of like small shops. They are better quality, like comfort colors, T shirts with the graphic that I like, right? So there's been a couple. But there has been a recent barrel sweatpant situation on Tick Tock Shop that Emily told me is also on Amazon. I washed them and put them in the dryer and I can't wear them anymore. Like the quality is so bad with this fast fashion. I'm no longer wasting my money on that. And I really like. I don't want to spend an arm and a leg on quality pieces either. But I am absolutely not purchasing shit quality from Amazon and TikTok shop anymore. And some of them is. It's weird because it's one of those things that you don't realize until you already get it. Like you don't know what quality it is. But I'm so pissed off about this specific pair of pants because I was like, I really like them. They're so comfortable, they're so stretchy. I size down two sizes. I just really like them. And maybe it's a case of like don't put them in the dryer, I don't know. But it pissed me off because I'm like, I don't have time or money when I have seven fucking kids to be buying multiple pairs of sweatpants over and over again because these first pair are falling apart.

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[Kayl]

I totally get that. And let me back up. There are certain brands on Amazon that I will order from. Like, I don't know, it's like Maro Keat or something like that. I think that's like a, that little comfy pajama set situation that I sent you. Okay, I'm going to repurchase that in every color and when it wears out, I'm going to repurchase it again because I've used it so many times and it just works. That brand has a plethora of other items probably going to order from. It doesn't fail me. A lot of the stuff comes and to your point, it's falling apart. You maybe get two wears out of it. At the point that I realized I was ordering stuff off of Amazon and I couldn't wash it at home because I knew it was going to fall apart and I'm sending it to the dry cleaner. What am I doing? No cleaning Amazon clothes, Truly.

[Lindsay]

And then it's like, okay, yes, I can afford this $20 pair of sweatpants off Amazon, right? And then two wears again, to your point, you get two wears out of it and it doesn't feel the same anymore. And now I have to go buy another situation for those two washes or whatever I like. Okay, let me back up too because There is a but how many times will you repurchase the 20 pair? That's what I was getting at. So Kristen just said in our little chat on this recording, like, how many times will you repurch the $20 pair? That's what I was getting at. There was an outfit, and I want to say it was like. I think it was called, like, Scuba or Snuba. I don't know what the it was called from Spanx. It was a set. I mean, you have to buy it.

[Kayl]

I remember this. You used to love that.

[Lindsay]

I was, I still am to this day, obsessed with the Spanx outfit. And I want to say it was like a Scuba. I'll post the link somewhere because I just try to follow the bouncing ball here. Found a dupe to this Spanx outfit. Now, the Spanx outfit is absolutely not affordable. It is very pricey. I want to say it's like 60 for the top, 60 for the bottom or 70 for the top, 70 for the bottom. I don't know. Somewhere along that. Along those lines, right. Found a dupe on Amazon. The first dupe, I was like, okay, this is really comparable. Like, I love it. Washed it once or twice. The inside now doesn't feel the same. Repurchased. The fit is completely different than the first time. And it's the same company. The same, like, knockoff company or the same dupe company. I don't know what the happened. So now I am like, I do really want to buy the Spanx one because I had the black one, but I think I. I think I spilled bleach on it or something. Something happened to it that I don't. I no longer have the Spanx one. I'm like, I just need to buy the quality pieces and try to, like, just keep them in good shape and good condition. Because my other thing is, like, when I do buy quality pieces and, like, maybe this is the whole fucking point when I buy a quality piece in something, whether it's a designer item or good quality, like Spanx or Uggs, when I tell you that I wear this shit down to the ground to the point that I have to replace it, but then I'm like, okay. But then I feel like I didn't take care of the item, and now I have to repurchase it anyway because I wore it down to the ground. And then I'm kicking my butt like, oh, it's so hard.

[Kayl]

I am definitely a purchaser. Like, I will spend more money on stuff that I know that I'm wearing all throughout the week. So certain leggings, I've gone back and forth on this Lululemon thing. It's like, why am I paying that much for leggings? But when I find myself grabbing the same pair and I'm wearing that, like, I will wear them, wash them, wear them again.

[Lindsay]

Yep.

[Kayl]

I will spend on something like that because I know it's going to get worn to the fucking ground. Don't care.

[Lindsay]

Yep.

[Kayl]

Why am I spending $36 on an outfit that I'm probably going to wear one time from Amazon? Because it's so specific that, like, I don't want to be seen in that again. Are you kind of like that where it's.

[Lindsay]

Wait, that's so funny that you say that. Because I bought off TikTok Shop. I bought two, two Halloween shirts for Salem, okay? For Salem, Massachusetts, when we went in the. In September. And I bought a ton of souvenirs. And I was like, Becky, like, you drove. Like, if I can't fit everything in my suitcase, do you mind taking stuff home to you? And the next time I see, you'll just give it to me? And she was like, kale, you are never gonna wear those Halloween shirts ever again. Leave them. She was like, literally, leave them. I didn't leave them because I bought them. And I'm like, no. Because now I have to prove to myself that I will wear them for the rest of the month of October because one, they're Halloween and two, I bought them. That being said, I took what she said so literally that now every time I see a cute shirt on TikTok Shop or on Amazon or wherever, on whatever, I'm not buying it because it is so specific. I don't want to be seen in it again or I don't have a purpose of for it outside of this one event. I'm no longer buying it for that event. Does that make sense?

[Kayl]

See, I've gotten to a place like that now, too. I went through. So I have a basket next to my washer and dryer and it's for like my dry clean clothes. So when I take it off, if I know it's going to fall apart because I'm cheap bitch. And I ordered off of Amazon, I'm probably going to take it to dry cleaner. I went through that basket and probably had 30 different outfits of stuff that needed to go to the dry cleaner. And I'm like, first of all, why am I purchasing clothes that need to go to the dry cleaner? That's number one. We don't, don't have time for that. Number two, I'm never going to wear this outfit again. So why am I putting this in this bin? To now spend more money at the dry cleaner to dry clean it, knowing I'm never going to wear it. But I'm also a hoarder. So if I bought it and I'm like, oh, it's still cute, but I'm probably not going to wear it. Nope. Getting it dry cleaned. That's a mental disorder.

[Lindsay]

Yeah, I would agree. Like, the amount of, like, shirts that I have, like, I don't know what anyone refer, like graphic tees that, like, really don't mean anything that have no significance or whatever. Like, I really only need three of them, but for some reason I have 40.

[Kayl]

Like, let's take a picture of our graphic T shirt drawers and post them, because I am the exact same way and I have held on to graphic tees for years and years and years and like, never worn them past the first time that I wore them. I swear to you, if I went through my closet right now and purged everything, if I was not a hoarder and purge everything that I have not touched or don't wear, I would probably have 10 items in there. Swear.

[Lindsay]

But I need to do that.

[Kayl]

I know, like, what's wrong with us that we can't do it. It's like we're holding on to either the fact that we think we might wear it or we're holding on to the fact that we spent money on it. So we need to keep it. Why are we doing that? Can we do a challenge where we go through our stuff? Everybody's doing this with us. We're going through our stuff and we're going to count the items that we know that we would wear in our closet. And I bet you it's anywhere from like 10 to 12 items.

[Lindsay]

I would agree with you. I'm also want to be more mindful about, like, I don't want to call them plain, but more like solid pieces instead of like, that I can only wear with certain things. Speaking of, like Kristen said in here, I just donated so many, I don't ever wear them. So I. I donate a lot of my clothes that when I do like, purges and stuff, I do donate them. But some pieces I put on Poshmark, like, the, the good ones that I know that other people can wear. Right. Well, someone recently told me about a baby shower idea or like a baby gift idea, and it is secondhand items that you get off of, like Poshmark. They basically do it, like, grab bag style. I have not seen it specifically on Poshmark. Somebody, while somebody that is friends with Becky told me about this idea that she has seen, like, grab bag style listings for, like, babies or toddlers or even, like, people like us. Like, we might have 20 graphic tees that are pretty cute, but, like, we don't want to wear them anymore. List it for all 20, 50 bucks. Put it in a grab bag and then list it on Poshmark or something for, like, 50.

[Kayl]

I've seen people do that on Facebook Marketplace, specifically with the baby clothes.

[Lindsay]

It's so smart. And you could do it as a baby shower gift if that person. Or, like, a sprinkle and you can, like, wash them yourself and make sure that, like, the ones that have stains or the really ugly ones, you, like, pull them out. But, like, what a great way to. We'll. We'll say, like, upcycle.

[Kayl]

I agree with that. I actually saw something that came across Facebook the other day, and it was this girl talking about how she had gifted some clothes of her child that outgrew them to a friend, and then friend has them for a period of time, and then she sees the friend is reselling those items on Facebook Marketplace, and she was asking, like, should I be offended or should I not be offended? How do you feel?

[Lindsay]

I think that if you gave them to your friend out of the kindness of your heart and she used what she could while she had them, and then they're still in good condition and she chose to list them, I mean, that's no longer your place. Do I think it's tacky? Yeah, I do think it's a little bit tacky, but I also understand because.

[Kayl]

It'S two sides for me.

[Lindsay]

Like, if you're like, what if needed the money.

[Kayl]

I know, but, like, I see both sides of this. If you're giving it to your friend and your kid no longer is wearing it, you should be giving that as a gift with no strings attached at the point that you're upset that that person is reselling the stuff after they've used it. That's with strings attached.

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On Tik Tok this morning and a woman is talking about how this man is on TikTok learning about women's health and he's like enraged by it. And so naturally I'm curious about what the fuck is going on. And I click like the bottom search bar thing that has like man raging about women's health, right? I click on it. This man has like a 15 part series of him learning about women's hormonal health and their bodies and things like this, right? And these videos have millions of views. His most recent video I think was day 15 of learning. Kristin, will you please play the the first video of him learning or one of the videos, whichever one you find the most engaging. I am so impressed by him and just so thankful that a man is actually diving into women's health because we are not studying. He literally says was it him or somebody else, the creator that was talking about him? Or he said they study male pattern baldness more than they Study endometriosis for women.

[Kayl]

Wait, what?

[Lindsay]

Yes. And so, like, the outrage that is coming from this man, and, like, I need it to be said right here on coffee commercial podcast, Men need to focus on women's health. Because yesterday, somebody made a comment to me, looked me dead in my face, and he said, I have never met another woman that goes as hard as you do for women. And I said. And that's part of the problem. I said, men, like, you need to also advocate for women because you recognize why I'm speaking up and what I'm speaking up about and what I'm speaking to. Men are part of the problem, and this man is not part of the problem. This man is doing the Lord's work.

[Kayl]

Let's see him, dog.

[Kristen]

I'm trying to tell you. I don't. I feel like women should be madder. Like, I don't. I don't get it. Because, like, the more you look into women's health, you're like, bro, how are y' all even remotely accepting this? But then you're like, wait, they're not accepting it. This is why every woman I've ever met, if she talks about her own health, she immediately gets angry. And I've been like, why are you getting so angry? Now I get it because you go to the doctor and the doctor is so consistently condescending about your health.

[Lindsay]

Or.

[Kristen]

Or if you have, like, a completely logical question, they're like, they give you all shoulders. They give you all shoulders about, like, something as simple as, like, hey, is there any treatment that I could do for, like, endometriosis or PCOS or anything that could lower the pain of my current periods? Like, literally, it is baffling that, like, you could be like, hey, I might need, like, an ultrasound so I could, like, look at my body, figure out what the heck is going on. Currently, they're like, yeah, we.

[Lindsay]

We got.

[Kristen]

We got nothing for you. All shoulders. You're all shoulders right now. And it's wild because, like, the more things that women keep on telling me about women's health, you're like, bro, this is. This is so much. Why did you matter? And it's like, the fact that you have women on your. Like, women are fighting against women's rights is even crazier. Like, bro, what? Like, I'm. I am shocked by all this. Like, the. The fact that there's not a lot of research on postpartum depression until recently. Recently. Or like, the. Like, what. Like, how. How do you explain to someone that you are depressed, that your Baby is not latching onto your breast and no one's willing to talk about it. Like, bro, no one's willing to talk about it.

[Lindsay]

It's.

[Kristen]

I. I'm mad for you.

[Lindsay]

So that brings me to the next point that I learned last week. I talk about my health on. On this podcast specifically so much, and I have pcos, and I have either something wrong with my gallbladder or whatever. Did you know that the diagnosis of IBS is not real?

[Kayl]

Wait, what?

[Lindsay]

IBS is just, like, a term that doctors, like, throw at people because it's a catch all and it covers all the bases. It's not real.

[Kayl]

So then what is it?

[Lindsay]

If it's not that it's a catch all, it's like, oh, you're having these symptoms, you have IBS because they don't.

[Kayl]

Want to do further testing.

[Lindsay]

Pretty much they don't have an explanation. Maybe there isn't an explanation. Maybe doctors don't really understand why it happens. Like, whatever. But, like, IBS is just a catch all to, like, basically quiet their. I was gonna say quiet their victim. Quiet their patient because they don't have real answers.

[Kayl]

It's so crazy that you brought this up, because I was scrolling earlier this morning, and with it being Breast Cancer Awareness Month, somebody that I follow had posted all of these companies that are out here, you know, pink ribbons and supporting Breast Cancer Awareness Month. How about let's look into the chemicals of the stuff that you're putting into things and focus on that and not just, oh, it's Breast Cancer awareness month, like, the chemicals could be causing it.

[Lindsay]

That's so interesting. Can we talk about, like, awareness in general? Like, when we're saying, oh, it's this, that, and the third awareness month and we're wearing a whibbon. We're wearing a ribbon, not a ribbon. We're wearing that color for awareness. Is that really awareness? If we're not talking, if. If the shirt doesn't have resources, if the ribbon doesn't have a foundation that people can go to to learn about said subject, what is wearing the color actually doing? Right? Like, there was a time where I think for football, Lincoln's team wore pink socks for October. But, like, what did that really do?

[Kayl]

Like, can we have some education behind why we're wearing pink socks? Because that also has happened with Jackson before, and he would come to me and be like, hey, mom, why are we wearing whatever color? And I guess maybe they're like, okay, well, parents, educate your kids on your own. But it's like, isn't that an opportunity to be able to educate them as a group of peers.

[Lindsay]

And I'm guilty of it too. Like, oh, it's whatever, whatever awareness month. But, like, what am I really doing to. For the awareness aspect of it? I just want to get better at that and I want to brainstorm ideas like, how we can do better with that. But, like, what the fuck is the awareness color? Like, oh, you have pcos. Okay, well, what's your experience with pcos? A lot of people that have pcos, we don't have answers. So, like, for PCOS awareness. Cool. Kristen said no one wants to hear this, but I think it's really mostly a marketing scheme for businesses to encourage people to buy. And I feel like they're and feel like they are doing something. I agree. I think the people who are doing and wearing the ribbons and wearing the colors, they think they're helping. They really do. I. This is not, this is not a shot at them by any means, because I've done it to, like, having Lincoln's football team wear the pink socks or whatever. Like, it feels like we're doing something, but we're not. And so that's why I say I'm also guilty of it. But to your point, Kristin, like, it is, I think that you are spot on when you say it is a marketing scheme. And that's actually really fudgeing sad.

[Kayl]

And a lot of companies, I feel like they kind of follow into with what other companies are doing, so they would be an outlier if they're not participating. So it's kind of like, how can we implement this awareness but also make more money off of set awareness?

[Lindsay]

Maybe a portion of the proceeds, like, whatever the extra profit is, is getting donated. Like, maybe that's like, what it is. But I think a lot of the times, like, I have gone back and forth with Kristen, like, do I post my donations to things so that people don't put me into this category? But yeah, I think Chris, to Kristen's point, she said people who won't purchase something regularly are incentive, are incentivized to buy, to quote, unquote, support. But the portion is so small that it's almost like not even worth it.

[Kayl]

I kind of am like, if, if I want to support that, then I need to go directly to whatever foundation it is to support, knowing they're getting 100 of the proceeds versus buying something. It could be something as small as certain socks, the Pilates studio. Any portion of those sales is going towards whatever or if I'm going to spend that amount of money, I can just donate it to that cause directly.

[Lindsay]

When we did years ago, the rare disease awareness for Leah's daughter, I mean, we donated thousands and we're a small business. It should be more like that if we're going to do it. It was like, okay, buy a T shirt. But the portion was large. I mean, for a, for a small business, it was large, I should say.

[Kayl]

But anyways, most places are not like that. I have to tell you something absolutely insane. I saw this on People magazine and I need to know how you feel about it. A man was arrested for excessively kissing and fondling partner during a flight and he received a sentence. It says that he was a New Zealand man sentenced after being arrested for excessively kissing and fondling partner while on flight. On September 29th, this 30 year old man appeared in court and he was sentenced to six months of community detention and 12 months of intensive supervision. How do you feel about this? So it says he was on a domestic flight alongside 48 other passengers and two flight attendants. He was repeatedly asked to stop intense public displays of affection which flight attendant said were making others uncomfortable. After being asked to stop once he placed his hand inside of her bra. The couple reportedly pretended to be asleep when they were approached by the flight attendant. They were arrested and both admitted to the charges.

[Lindsay]

Why? Why are we doing this on a plane?

[Kayl]

I don't know. And this goes back to conversations that you and I have had before about like our kids being exposed stuff or not being exposed to stuff or maybe just like our lifestyles are different, but we're, you know, on this transportation with people who have choice to be able to have whatever lifestyle that they want to have. If I saw a man putting his hand in a woman's bra, my child was on that flight, I would raise mortal hell.

[Lindsay]

It just feel, whether there are kids or not, it just feels so wildly inappropriate that I'm like, why are we.

[Kayl]

Doing that on a plane?

[Lindsay]

Why are you putting yourself in a position to be asked to stop something like that? Like, what the. Like you couldn't wait to keep your hands off each other until y' all got to a room.

[Kayl]

Well, and then I'm like, okay, were these people drinking and like intoxicated and then doing this? Because I don't feel like this is a normal thing for people not in an intoxicated state would be doing an adult.

[Lindsay]

Are they teens or are they adults?

[Kayl]

Kristen said. But like, what the is a titty grab gonna do? Like, these are. These are full grown adults. Like 30 years old.

[Lindsay]

I'm grossed out actually. Like, if they want people to watch them, they should just do porn.

[Kayl]

Like there's so many options. Like only fans. Which by the way, how's your feet finders thing going?

[Lindsay]

Nobody wants to. They all want to meet up to rub my feet and that's not an option. So.

[Kayl]

So you haven't made any money?

[Lindsay]

No, they. Someone wanted to buy my sweaty gym socks, but it's not going too great. They. They're like, hey, what area are you in? Can I come rub your feet? And it's like, no.

[Kayl]

So I should not do that.

[Lindsay]

Faking sleep is crazy. No. Like, so what? He fell asleep with his hand in her bra and like is acting like everything is wrong. Like the, the at the point that you are on a plane and you are fondling each other and groping each other and like stay home and put your porn on pornhub because you will make money doing it. You won't get arrested. And I don't understand, like, I don't under. Like I don't mind like a little kiss hug, butt grab as a PDA situation. I don't care that much. But if you're like literally eating each other's face and like fondling each other inside your clothes in a public place, like I. You've crossed, cross the line and I don't want to see it.

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[Kayl]

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[Lindsay]

Absolutely the not so.

[Kayl]

I just generally don't agree with the excessive public display of affection that should be for your bedroom or your house or your car or like places that you own, not just out in public. There is some crazy shit that I have seen just like being out and about at like nice restaurants. The shit that men will do and then women will participate in is insane to me. I have seen somebody at a bar, I am not even kidding with a man sticking his finger in the shorts of a woman.

[Lindsay]

Why?

[Kayl]

I don't know. Again, because I saw this at a bar and that's the reference that I have to like relate this to. I'm like is it because alcohol is involved? Or like can you not finger somewhere else?

[Lindsay]

But like if you would not pick your nose in this public setting, do not fondle your partner's genitals either in that same public setting. Like if you would be embarrassed to be caught on camera digging for gold out of your nose. Also don't touch my private parts in that area.

[Kayl]

How do we feel about couples that go to public bathrooms and fuck?

[Lindsay]

I've never personally experienced it or seen it or done it. So I don't know. But I read about it in books. Like a lot of the books that I have is like oh we went into the bathroom or whatever. Specifically the Addicted series if anyone's interested in that. And Haunting Adeline also It was in there. I don't know how I feel about that. I think I care less about it.

[Kayl]

I just don't think.

[Lindsay]

I mean, it's appropriate. Not really, but like, do I care? Because I, if I'm not watching it, what the fuck does it have to do with me?

[Kayl]

I think it's like people who fantasize about doing stuff like that. Like you have like the, the Mile High Club or whatever it's called. Like, I don't know anybody who would want to fantasize about in a plane on a bath or in a bathroom on a plane. I think that's one of the most disgusting places that you could possibly be. I avoid the bathroom on a plane at all cost. Also, two grown adults going into a bathroom in a public place. It's got to be a fantasy because why don't you just go the home?

[Lindsay]

I agree.

[Kayl]

You know what I mean?

[Lindsay]

Like, but like I have never, I've been on a lot of planes in my lifetime and I have never seen an opportunity to go into the bathroom without being caught with like, I've traveled with my boyfriend, my ex husband, whatever. Like there has never been a time where I'm like, oh, we could go into the bathroom and fudge really quick. Like there has never been. That's not something I want to do. But also it's like there's never been an opportunity without getting like the flight attendants, they're in the back, they're in the front. There's people going to see you get up immediately after someone else gets up to go to the bat. Like we're too old.

[Kayl]

That's why I'm saying it's got to be like a, a fetish or a fantasy or something. Because the devious behavior to get to the point to be able to do it, it's got to be like a thrill seeking or something maybe.

[Lindsay]

I think you might be right.

[Kayl]

Never would I go into one of my favorite, like one of my favorite restaurants where I don't really go out to eat that much anymore. I don't know if I told you that, but like pretty much strictly eat all meals at home at this point. I could never imagine going to the restaurant that I like to go and get a little glass of champagne maybe like on a college football Saturday and have some oysters and then be like, hey, let's also go to the bathroom and really quick. Like, that's just not. I need to go home if I'm doing all of that, then just take the party to the house.

[Lindsay]

Honestly, like If I'm feeling horny, let's go the home.

[Kayl]

Wait, I have to ask you. I was having this conversation with somebody not too long ago, and I don't want to say, like, how long ago it was, because it would give it away. But when you started dating somebody and you felt like it was, like, hot and heavy, what was the first thing that y' all did? Like, was it a date, and then you, like, took it back to the house, and then did you immediately have sex, or was it, like, something else?

[Lindsay]

Which particular person are we talking about here?

[Kayl]

I mean, it could be anybody. Just give me, like, one example of a situation.

[Lindsay]

If I talk about Elijah. We were going out for Bone's birthday, and then we were gonna.

[Kayl]

When we got home, like, it was an immediate. Yeah, okay. I love that for you. Mine was not like that.

[Lindsay]

My situation, that was also not like that. Like, would not on the first night kind of deal.

[Kayl]

Okay, so wait a second.

[Lindsay]

Was that the night she on the bench? It was. It was that night.

[Kayl]

I will never forget the on the bench in her new house.

[Lindsay]

Like, still talk about it. They just talked about it last night. They were like, remember when Bone pooped in the. In the mud room?

[Kayl]

I'm dead. Okay, so I was dating somebody one time, and then, like, we weren't dating, and then we, like, dated again, but I went to this nice restaurant with this person, and it was just kind of like, get to know each other, blah, blah, walk to me in my car, gave a hug, went on my merry way. Then it was like, a couple days later, go on a date, come back to the house, and this person immediately thinks that we're gonna be. And I'm like, that is not happening. Like, I am not that girly. I'm trying to. I'm like, in this phase of, like, get to know you, and I don't really feel like my vagina needs to get to know your dick right now.

[Lindsay]

Well, if you feel, like, really hot and heavy like that for someone right away, that's not going to go away. So, like, you can still take your time and sort of fight the urge a little bit. And that that sexual chemistry or that sexual desire will be there in a week or two or three.

[Kayl]

Okay, so did I tell you that when I bought this house, I had a rule, like, I'm not having sex with anybody at this house unless I know they're here to stay?

[Lindsay]

I don't know if you told me that or not.

[Kayl]

Yeah. Like, I am so weird about the energy of the situation that when I started dating one person after I moved into this house. I was like, well, yeah, like, it's getting to the point where we probably should do that and check out, like, if it's going to work out or not, but we're just not doing it here.

[Lindsay]

Okay, fair.

[Kayl]

But do you feel like sexual energy can be trapped in a house?

[Lindsay]

I don't know if it can be trapped in a house. I think it can be trapped in a situation.

[Kayl]

Like, let me give you an example. Okay, let's say you dated somebody and you had sex at that house and like you had memories, like all the things. And then all of a sudden, like, you're not dating that person. Do you feel like you need to have like a cleansing of sorts?

[Lindsay]

Yeah.

[Kayl]

Yeah.

[Lindsay]

Like buy a new mattress.

[Kayl]

I am.

[Lindsay]

No, I know you are. I'm not gonna go buy a new mattress. But yes, I do feel like the space needs to be cleansed a little. Yes.

[Kayl]

I don't know. I just feel like if I was laying on a mattress with one person, that person should not have to be subjected to the other person that I was laying on that mattress with. I'm like, really weird about that.

[Lindsay]

So I'm scrolling on tick tock, which I don't do as much as I used to, and I come across a tick tock of this woman who's saying she had to kick out her best friend. Maid of honor, I think it was, or bridesmaid over 15. And the summary of this dollars. I'm gonna have Kristen play the tick tock. But for those of you listening who just want the summary, there's a bachelorette in Cabo. Ten girls went. No pressure at all. Bride originally only wanted to go with sisters as she has five sisters. But every gave everyone the opportunity to go. Okay, love that. No pressure. If you want to go, you're invited. If you don't, that's fine. You don't have the money. Whatever. Two girls lived in Texas and the rest in San Diego. We are referring to them as A and K. Okay. First night they went to a nightclub, had to get a bottle service to get into a booth. Bride wanted to buy the bottle, so they did that. Her sister ended up ordering another bottle. And some some girls ordered beers. No big deal. Sister texts into group chat the next day to let everyone know the tab was $800 and said everyone needed to Venmo her 80. A&K were bothered by that because they said that they didn't drink a lot, A lot. Said A. Said that she only had four drinks. From the bottle that night. Bride says she will pay for their portions because she wanted to buy a bottle anyways. A ends up emailing the nightclub for an itemized receipt because she was so bothered by this $80. A&K got it and were obsessing over it all week. Ride was trying to nip this in the butt as she wanted no drama on her weekend which I respect and understand and empathize with. She tells A and K that they need to be on their own separate tabs moving forward. Bride reiterates that she will pay for their portions from night one, but A and K insist that they don't want to be in. They don't want this to be a solution. Like they don't. They don't like it. On night two everyone is getting ready to go to dinner and then the club. Bride sees A and K whispering to each other in the mirror as she's doing that as she's doing her hair. Bride heard A say quote we'll just see how we feel after dinner. End quote. Bride asks if A and K are not going out to the club after dinner. A says she has a migraine and says her and K will see how they feel after. A is drinking cocktails at dinner which seems off to the bride as A said she had a migraine. A and K say they're going home after dinner. Everyone else goes to the club, has so much fun. Bride sleeps in a different room that night because she didn't like the weird energy. Fine. Third morning Bride gets a text from A asking if Bride could come to the room to have a talk. A in case that are down, tell the bride she's a problem. She's making them feel cheap because she offered to pay for them and now they feel uncomfortable in front of the bride's sisters and other friends because she's making them out to be cheap people because of the tab incident. A and K let the bride know that they looked up flights the night before to go home because they are so bothered by this. Bride tells them that she thinks that they should leave and lets them know they're making her feel uncomfortable on her weekend. A said that she was 5050 on leaving because she had already paid for the trip so she wanted to use the Airbnb amenities while the group continued on with their itinerary. A and K say they need to go to breakfast to discuss this whole situation. AK come back happy as can be and let the Bride know they decided to forget about the incident. Bride decides to squash it. They have A great time. At the end of the trip A says they they do want to contribute and pay for at least one of the bottles from the nightclub on night one. A says they did the math and it's 65 per person, not 80 which I don't agree with because you also have to tip. They get off their flight home. A scurries off to the bathroom. Bride does not hear from her for three weeks and I'm assuming this is her best friend because she said that they stopped talking. She only reached out to ask if Bride changed her Amazon password because A is on her account. Bride sends a text back with how she feels and ends this the friendship and blocks her immediately. The bride's friends and family message her a link to Reddit where A made an entire Reddit post about the bride and the screenshotted everything and there were 6,000 comments on this Reddit thread telling A that she was the asshole and Bride takes it to TikTok to share.

[Kayl]

What happens I want to take a.

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[Lindsay]

But I just want to say I'm so fucking sick and tired of people not having wedding etiquette. And when I say wedding I mean the whole enchilada. I Mean the bachelorette party. The bachelor party, whatever that looks like the bridal shower, the whole nine. The whole nine yards. Stop committing to things that cost you money that you do not have. And yes, it is over $80 or $15, whatever the fuck. If you did not have a $100 cushion to pay for this situation, why are you even going to Cabo to begin with? Or you needed to address before you went to the club or when you were at the club, hey, I want to get a bottle. It's $800. Is everybody comfortable with $80? Is everybody comfortable with 65? Is everybody comfortable? Because if not, that's. It's a communication thing. But at the point that you are going to Cabo for a bachelorette party, you need to have some money to spend. Like, if you don't have the $80, what are you even there for?

[Kayl]

I just feel like it boils down to the communication. And I have never been on a trip with girlfriends that I'm not. Like, just split it down the middle or whatever. Like, I don't care who orders what, whatever. I feel like it's all going to come out in the wash. Like, I'll go places with girlfriends and one of my friends will be like, oh, I'm grabbing this round of drinks and then I'll grab the next round of drinks, whatever it is. I'm not nickel and diming somebody because I paid $30 for a drink and, you know, they paid $10 for my drink at the next place. I just feel like, know your situation, Know what situation that you're in and plan and govern yourself accordingly.

[Lindsay]

Right. No, I agree with you, but, like, it's infuriating to just like, I'm thinking about, I know someone who recently went to a wedding. He was the best man, and I'm like, what did you get as the, like, groom's gift? Nothing. Didn't give a wedding gift of money. Didn't give a gift card. Didn't give anything. You're the literal best man. Like, what do you mean?

[Kayl]

I think this world has become so selfish and people just don't think. There is no world where I would end a friendship over 80 bucks.

[Lindsay]

No, but, like, why are these two so bothered over $80 each? Like, again, I cannot say it enough. If you didn't have an extra $100, why are you going?

[Kayl]

But also just to bring mention to the Reddit part of this. Like, how shitty of a person are you to go on Reddit on Am I the asshole thread? I'm assuming, like, it was probably something posted in there and be talking about your friend, but shit that you wouldn't be willing to say to them.

[Lindsay]

No, I agree.

[Kayl]

Why are we using Reddit for something like that?

[Lindsay]

Also, I just would like to say, like, to your point of, like, my girlfriends will get this tab. I'll get the next one. We went to Salem with Becky, her wife, and then Leah, her wife, Becky's wife, Leah had her best friend and her man come. We didn't even have a conversation really about it until we were already doing it. It was like we went out to eat. The one time I covered the tab, we went to the witch's dungeon, and then Natasha and her husband paid that tab for everybody. And then we went somewhere else and then Becky and Leah got the tab there. Like, no, it's not even. Like, it's not. But, like, to me, it's. It doesn't. I'm not nickel and diming. And I understand that not everybody is in that situation, in that position to. Not nickel and dime. But, like, make it clear from the jump, hey, I would love to cover this. I just don't have the funds this time. I have to pay for my portion of this because I can't afford to do it. So I have to do separate tabs this time. If you're communicating that clearly and not in a condescending or defensive way, it's never going to be a problem. But if you're waiting until after all is said and done to, like, have a complaint about it, that's a huge deal.

[Kayl]

But it all boils down to communication because there's never been a time. I mean, I've been on trips with girlfriends and stuff. And it's always said, like, there's always a group chat for the trip. And it's like, okay, the room's being split or the condos being split. Like, this amount of ways it's all known. Like, there'll be certain times that I've gone out with certain friends, and it's like, everybody does separate tabs. Certain friends that I go with, it's, you got this one, I get the next one. Like, know your friendship also.

[Lindsay]

Yep, I agree. And there are certain friends you can't do that with. And that's okay.

[Kayl]

That's okay. I'm just not friends with those people. Okay, so we have a listener topic, and I want to know how you feel about this. With having as many children as you have. This person says they're only posting anonymously because they know people in the group and absolutely love that this person says they feel so dumb asking this question, but my child is in the first grade going on her first field trip. Well, I can't chaperone because of little brother. Would it be wrong to show up and hang out and is that allowed? This is my kiddo's first time going on one. Please share. I'm just going to say I completely understand the fear of it being your child's first field trip, going off campus, being on a school bus, doing that, But I very much think it takes away from the experience of the kid, that child being in first grade. All of their peers are in first grade. So I think bringing a younger sibling just, like, might not be the move.

[Lindsay]

Agreed. I. I also agree with that. I don't have anything else to add to that.

[Kayl]

Even though you have so many, you would just be like, no, I'm just gonna have to forego. Like, how do you do that as a parent with so many kids?

[Lindsay]

I don't like chaperoning.

[Kayl]

You don't want to be responsible for more than what you gave birth to?

[Lindsay]

Yeah, I don't want to be a chaperone.

[Kayl]

See, I always sign up to be a chaperone. Jackson's going on a field trip soon, and I didn't sign up to be a chaperone for it. Kind of makes me scared. But he's allowed to bring a cell phone on the trip and I also have him on my iPhone.

[Lindsay]

So I am an approved chaperone. I was cleared. I've been a chaperone before. I went on one when Lincoln was in kindergarten and I did fill out, like, the paperwork. If they needed me, I would do it. But I already have a really complicated work schedule and I need to be available to like, I have to be able to leave my office by 2:30 every single day, no matter what. And some days when I have, we'll call them the triplets. I have to be. My work day has to be done at 11:30, essentially, because by the time I go to pick them up at 12 and then I come back to the office, I gotta leave by 2:30 again to go get the kid. Like, my work schedule is. So the field trips that I do every single day with kids, sports and drama and tutoring. I don't need to be on the school field trips.

[Kayl]

No, I. I completely get it. I remember Jackson had a field trip. I think it was in kindergarten or first grade, and it was to the pumpkin patch. And there were a couple of moms that had brought younger siblings. And I feel like it completely took away from the experience for the other kids because those kids were running around, causing disturbance, stuff like that. So for those reasons, I would just say you're gonna have to sit out on it.

[Lindsay]

No. And, like, if I go to be a chaperone, like, for example, when I went on that one with Lincoln when he was in kindergarten, like, I needed that time with him at that time. Right. Like, I wanted to spend that time with him. And I don't know, like, it just. If I was to go on a field trip now with Lincoln or Lux or Creed, like, bringing a sibling would take away from that. Like, sort of undivided. It's divided, but it's sort of undivided as well. Yeah, I wouldn't want to bring a sibling. And I get it. Like, those are the options. Like, I can go be a chaperone and do this with you, but I have to bring your sibling. I get it. But, like, I don't. I don't agree or align necessarily.

[Kayl]

I agree. And on that note, we have foul play.

[Lindsay]

When I was seven months pregnant, I hit the absolute peak of my sex drive. I could not get enough of it with my husband. He had a nice buzz, so I thought we would be able to go rounds. I hopped on and enjoyed round. Round one. I asked him if he could go for round two if I offered back door. This is what I'm saying. Like, I thought men loved backdoor. Apparently they don't. He was all for it. Well, I hurry up and apply the anal ease and go to town to start getting him up and going. In the heat of trying and failing, I forgot which hand I used to prep myself, and I managed to get some on my mouth and his pecker.

[Kayl]

Yeah, wait, there's a cream that you could. There is a analogy.

[Lindsay]

In the heat of trying and failing, I forgot which hand I used to prep myself, and I managed to get some of my mouth and his pecker. So I went to bed with a numb mouth and a numb. Praying to God I didn't. The bed. Wait a minute. Wait. I didn't know numbing cream for your was a. Was a thing.

[Kayl]

Where do we get that?

[Lindsay]

Well, here's the thing. And, like, I'm not judging, like, whatever anyone wants to do with their life and their sex life is, like, they're. If I have to use numbing cream for my. I don't want to do it.

[Kayl]

I'm just like, isn't that a sign.

[Lindsay]

Down there? Isn't his penis gonna be numb no matter what? If it's in your.

[Kayl]

That's what I'm thinking. Unless you use the Anal Ease and then like wipe it off once it's numb. You know what I'm saying?

[Lindsay]

But like, I'm thinking if we're using Anal Ease, that has to go inside your as well.

[Kayl]

No, but I'm thinking, like, maybe you just like rub it around your.

[Lindsay]

But it hurts inside your as well.

[Kayl]

No, I know that.

[Lindsay]

So, like, you're only putting it on the, like the ring of your ass.

[Kayl]

That's not really. That hurts. That's not inside, like the. That part of the movement. No. There's only one person that I feel like you could have anal with that you have been with. That wouldn't hurt.

[Lindsay]

Correct. But also my butt cheeks go so deep I don't even think he'd make it in.

[Kayl]

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