First Jobs, First Loves & Fake Boyfriends

Summary

Coffee Convos with Kail Lowry and Lindsie Chrisley

Episode: First Jobs, First Loves & Fake Boyfriends

Release Date: July 30, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this candid, nostalgic episode, Kail and Lindsie dig into all things “firsts”—from their earliest jobs and cars to crushes, cell phones, and meals cooked without a parental safety net. The conversation is full of spontaneous laughter, lighthearted confessions, and deeply genuine moments as both women reflect on their upbringings, compare childhood experiences, and poke fun at their own quirks. There are heartfelt admissions about loneliness, parental absence, and how those early days have influenced their approaches to motherhood and adult life. The episode is both playful and poignant, packed with relatable stories for every child of the 90s and early 00s.

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Main Discussion Points & Insights

First Jobs & Fast Food Memories

[02:41–04:53]

• Kail: First job was at McDonald’s, specifically working the drive-thru:
  • “I loved McDonald’s job. Like, I was picking up shifts.” [03:02]
  • She took pride in beating the timer and loved the work environment.
  • Confessed her loyalty to McDonald’s as the best fast food, with both hosts agreeing.
• Lindsie: Worked at a frozen yogurt place and a small makeup store in Florida; reminisced about the Bare Minerals makeup craze.

Notable Moment:

• Kail shares a story about jumping over the counter at McDonald’s to defend her mother from a rude former classmate [05:26].

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First Cars & Learning (or Not) Stick Shift

[05:58–08:57]

• Kail: First car was a red 2001 Nissan Sentra, stick shift.
  • “I had to teach myself [to drive stick].” [07:01]
• Lindsie: Had a retro baby blue VW Beetle to learn on, eventually upgraded to a Mercedes C230 for her sweet sixteen. She was heartbroken when her dad sold the Beetle before her birthday.
  • Plans are discussed for Kail to teach Lindsie how to drive stick shift — on video.

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First Celebrity Crushes

[09:09–14:16]

• Kail: Isaac Hanson of Hanson at age 7. Even wrote him letters—with the help of her teenage babysitter, so they looked more “grown up.”
  • “I didn’t want them to think I was young… so she wrote what I said to write and then we mailed it to the fan club.” [09:23]
• Lindsie: Admits to her first crush in high school on Nick Lachey, after some ribbing from Kail about questionable choices like “Tim the Tool Man Taylor.”
  • “Nobody looks like Tim the Tool Man Taylor.” [14:28]

Memorable and Hilarious Digression:

• A tangent about budgeting gurus, tightwads, and confusing celebrities for finance guys:
  • “Is that Bill Nye the science guy?” (Kail on Clark Howard) [12:00]

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Imagination, Loneliness, and “Fake Boyfriends”

[15:03–21:25]

• Kail openly discusses a lonely, neglected childhood leading to elaborate imaginary scenarios—like talking to her sweatshirt as if it were a boyfriend, or claiming photos of herself were her “sister Melissa.”
  • “I was so traumatized as a child. You have to understand how lonely I was… I was making up scenarios in my head.” [17:18]
• Lindsie contrasts her more social, typical Southern upbringing (siblings, lots of family interaction, invested in Barbies and pop culture girl groups).
• Both reflect on how these backgrounds shape their parenting today:
  • Kail: “I think you just learn how to cope differently as time goes on… the original trauma is always there, but it conforms.” [20:41]
  • Lindsie notes Kail’s decision to have multiple children is influenced by her own isolation as an only child.

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First Concerts and Fandom

[22:26–24:51]

• “Britney Spears.” for Kail [22:30]
• “Spice Girls.” for Lindsie, who wishes she kept her concert T-shirt to crop it now.
• Tangent about boy bands, girl bands, and tracking down rare Spice Girl Barbies at different Walmarts.

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Cell Phones, Trends, and Childhood Experiences

[25:22–32:51]

• Both share horror stories about their first cell phones being lost, stolen, or broken (often hand-me-downs and flip phones).
• Discussion around societal pressure for kids to have what’s “trending”—phones, Lisa Frank, jelly shoes, etc.
  • Lindsie: “I could never imagine sending my child to school knowing that he, like, rides the school bus home and doesn’t have a cell phone.” [29:22]
  • Kail reflects on feeling excluded when she couldn’t participate in trends as a kid.
• Conversation moves to today’s trends being more materialistic (e.g., Stanley cups) versus being about shared experience (Lisa Frank, Neopets, AIM).
  • Kail: “There are certain things that are just materialistic. Like, would you say that Stanley is materialistic, or…?” [32:35]

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First Social Media and Online Life

[33:03–36:01]

• Kail’s first account was on Zanga (a pre-MySpace blog), Lindsie’s on MySpace.
• Reminiscing about away messages, Top 8 drama, and uploading hundreds of photos with no curation.
  • Lindsie: “MySpace was crazy… Like, what were we doing?” [34:48]
  • Kail: “That was an experience… just because it was trendy. That was an experience.” [34:25]
• Early days of Facebook and AIM, and the sense of anticipation before social media was ubiquitous.

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Childhood Meals and Family Dinners — A Stark Contrast

[49:18–54:46]

• Kail: First time cooking a real meal was at 19 or 20 (tacos), after moving into her first apartment.
  • “There was no cooking ever. But there was also not takeout either.” [51:52]
  • She links her dislike of cooking to the lack of food traditions and parental presence growing up.
• Lindsie: Grew up in a house where homemade meals were the norm—full dinners, sweet tea, sides, no one going hungry, and family eating together nightly.
  • “There was never a night that we would have ever gone to bed hungry. There was never dirty clothes… constantly making sure we were where we needed to be.” [52:27]
• Both reflect on how these family meals, or lack thereof, shaped their approach to food and parenting.

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Growing Up Then vs. Now

[57:03–58:58]

• Nostalgia for childhoods full of outdoor adventures; concern that social media and tech steal that sense of magic from kids now.
  • Kail: “Kids are getting cell phones at 6 and 7… so the cell phone is not a big deal to them.” [57:47]
  • Lindsie: “What are [our kids’] stories going to sound like to them? … Not as interesting as ours.” [58:15]
• Both lament the amplification of “keeping up with the Joneses” in modern parenting, for both children and adults.

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Foul Play: Listener Story

[59:02–61:59]

• The segment features a hilarious and cringe-worthy listener story about a husband getting sick (and more) at a restaurant while on holiday, with the family mortified—and an extra tip left for the cleanup.
  • “My hubby was being sick at the table… on the table, everywhere.” [59:46]
  • Kail: “I resonate with that. I’m sorry, that’s unfortunate.” [60:44]
  • Lindsie: “Throwing up on a table in a restaurant and asking for a bucket is really wild work.” [61:15]

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Notable Quotes

• Kail:
  • “I think you just learn how to cope differently as time goes on… the original trauma is always there, but it conforms almost.” [20:41]
  • “I don’t care who judges us, but I love McDonald’s.” [03:20]
  • “Is that Bill Nye the science guy?” (on Clark Howard confusion) [12:00]
  • “I had to teach myself [stick shift]… in a stick shift, you use both [feet].” [07:05]
• Lindsie:
  • “There was never a night that we would have ever gone to bed hungry… my parents let me save for a long while because I lived at home when I was a freshman in college.” [52:27 & 42:29]
  • “I could never imagine sending my child to school knowing that he… doesn’t have a cell phone.” [29:30]
  • “MySpace was crazy… Like, what were we doing?” [34:48]

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Section Timestamps (Quick Reference)

• [02:41] – First jobs
• [05:58] – First cars/stick shift
• [09:09] – First celebrity crush
• [15:03] – Imaginary friends & loneliness
• [22:30] – First concerts
• [25:22] – First cell phones/trends
• [33:06] – First social media
• [49:18] – First meal cooked & family dinners
• [57:38] – Kids’ lives then/now, nostalgia
• [59:02] – Foul play listener story

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Tone and Language

• Conversational, witty, and sometimes irreverent
• Honest, vulnerable admissions—especially from Kail on her upbringing
• Close friend dynamic, lots of playful teasing and shared laughs
• Occasional mature language (bleeped or glossed over)

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Memorable Moments

• Kail’s confession about making up fake family members and imaginary conversations due to childhood loneliness [17:18–18:00]
• Lindsie’s first car being “stolen” before her sweet sixteen, only to be replaced by a Mercedes [08:24]
• The “Tim the Tool Man Taylor” crush rabbit hole [10:24–12:21]
• Hysterical listener story about a husband’s restaurant misadventures [59:02]
• An ongoing thread about how material versus experiential trends affect parenting choices and childhood “magic” [29:51–32:55]

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This episode offers an honest, nostalgic, and lively reflection on “firsts” in work, love, independence, and family—balancing laugh-out-loud moments with heartfelt admissions. It's a snapshot of transitioning from 90s kids to modern moms, and a celebration of both survival and growth.

Transcript

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[Kale Lowry]

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[Lindsay Chrisley]

Disclaimer. This episode was recorded in early May 2026, prior to the events that have since unfolded.

[Podcast Co-host (possibly Lindsey Chrisley or guest)]

The conversation reflects the information and circumstances

[Lindsay Chrisley]

as they were at the time of recording. I hate gift giving.

[Podcast Co-host (possibly Lindsey Chrisley or guest)]

And receiving.

[Kale Lowry]

Receiving gifts is so weird. What do you say? Thank you.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

This is Coffee Convos with Kale Lowry and Lindsey Chrisley.

[Podcast Co-host (possibly Lindsey Chrisley or guest)]

I really want you to be in your feels, Kale.

[Kale Lowry]

That does not interest me whatsoever.

[Podcast Co-host (possibly Lindsey Chrisley or guest)]

I feel very attacked by you.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

A spirited discussion about motherhood, friendship, faith, family and life in the public eye. I'm just not with the fakery anymore.

[Kale Lowry]

There's a fakery bakery around here.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Here's Kale and Lindsay.

[Kale Lowry]

Rolling, rolling, rolling, rolling.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Good morning and welcome back to another episode of Coffee Combos podcast. How are we?

[Kale Lowry]

We're still on Lindsay's couch.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

We've been here for days.

[Kale Lowry]

We've been here for days. We're here for days with love. And we're talking about tacos. And honestly, I'm gonna have more of Lindsay's pasta salad.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

That pasta salad was banging.

[Kale Lowry]

If people hate when I eat on this podcast, otherwise I would eat it right now.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

You know what's so weird is I used to not be a fan of pasta salad, like whenever I was growing up because my grandmother always used to make like. Have you ever had it with. It's not like pasta salad, but it's like with noodles and it's got mayonnaise in it and it has

[Kale Lowry]

tuna. Tuna casserole.

[Guest or Sponsor Voice]

Yeah.

[Kale Lowry]

Is my favorite thing of all time.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Oh, nanny makes a good.

[Kale Lowry]

It's noodles with tuna and sometimes some people put eggs in it. Like hard boiled eggs. It's so good.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Me and you should make that tomorrow.

[Kale Lowry]

I love.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Should we make that tomorrow?

[Kale Lowry]

Yes.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah, that should be so good. You can also do it with chicken, but.

[Kale Lowry]

Okay, I can see it with chicken. Like a chicken salad but with noodles.

[Podcast Co-host (possibly Lindsey Chrisley or guest)]

Yeah.

[Kale Lowry]

Okay. I could get behind that. But I'm a big tuna noodle girl. Some people eat it hot. I don't like it hot.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I don't like it hot.

[Kale Lowry]

I don't like hot tuna.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Hot tuna is crazy smelling like somebody coochie up in here.

[Kale Lowry]

Well, we could get a rag, a Rag is nuts.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Okay, so on this episode, we're gonna, like, walk down memory lane of our life and we're gonna talk about, like, first times of things.

[Kale Lowry]

Okay.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Okay. So we're gonna start light, and it'll go deeper as we go.

[Kale Lowry]

First job, McDonald's.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

What did you do at McDonald's up. But, like, what was your job?

[Kale Lowry]

Drive through.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

So you put the food out the

[Kale Lowry]

door or out the window? Yeah, but there's, like, a timer. So you, like, are what? And I would. Yeah. Like, I would, like, beat the clock. Like, I was really good.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

You were a really good drive through.

[Kale Lowry]

I loved McDonald's job. Like, I was picking up shifts.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

This might be, like, a hot take, but I'm going to argue. My favorite fast food, and it used to be Chick Fil A, but I'm, like, way off the wagon of that now. McDonald's is the best fast food.

[Kale Lowry]

I don't care. It is. I love it.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Like, I don't care who judges us,

[Kale Lowry]

but I love McDonald's.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Love a good McDonald's. I was actually watching somebody on Tick Tock eat, like, a new menu item or whatever from there. Have you tried it? No, I haven't tried it either.

[Kale Lowry]

What is it?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

We might like late night. Get it. I don't know what it's called.

[Kale Lowry]

I'm down and just count me in.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

You're like, I'm getting it.

[Kale Lowry]

Shout out to Mickey D's.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I actually copied your order, and I regularly get it when I go to McDonald's. The double cheeseburger with. Can we believe that McDonald's brought Mac Sauce to dipping? No, I don't think it's available to everywhere. I think it's only, like, select locations. Maybe it was like a marketing, like, rollout. You know how sometimes they'll do, like, geographically, whatever.

[Kale Lowry]

Yeah, like testing it out. Testing the market.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah. I'm like, we didn't like Max sauce.

[Kale Lowry]

I didn't know that was a thing.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah, it's a thing they have.

[Kale Lowry]

I wonder if I could, like, ask for a side of Mac sauce.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I mean, I'm sure you could. Why? Why couldn't you?

[Kale Lowry]

Well, I love that.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Okay, my first job. Wait, what was my first job? Oh, my first job. So my parents had a house in Florida whenever we were growing up. So we would leave literally the last day of school, drive to Florida, and then not come back until, like, days before school started. And I worked at a frozen yogurt place. And I also, at the same time I was working at the frozen yogurt place. I was Working at a little makeup store, but it was like tiny. And remember when like bare minerals, like, had just come out?

[Kale Lowry]

Yes.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah.

[Kale Lowry]

Yes. And all the products were like the Laura Mercier, like, powder situation. Every product was like that. Yes, Yes, I remember.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Remember, like how it was like the eyeshadow, but it was like in the little pod thing and you had to like dip the brush down in there and it was like all powder.

[Kale Lowry]

Yep.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I remember the spear minerals. Honestly, I think I'm too dry at this point in my life.

[Kale Lowry]

I think I'm too wet for that. Like, my skin is so oily.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Wet's wild.

[Kale Lowry]

Okay. I'm too wet and wild.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Too wet and wild is crazy. And then my next job was at Wendy's, but I only had to do that job because I failed social studies and I just had to do Wendy's job. And I also did Drive Thru.

[Kale Lowry]

Did they have a clock there too?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

No.

[Kale Lowry]

Oh, I was beating the clock. Actually jumped over the counter to fight somebody one time.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

What? For a patron.

[Kale Lowry]

McDonald's on 248 in Easton.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

A patron, huh? Why?

[Kale Lowry]

He went to my high school. He was talking to my mom, like in the store and I was like, oh, no, wait.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Were you super protective of your mom even though you felt like she was a bad mom?

[Kale Lowry]

I can talk about her, but you can't talk about her.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

It's cardinal rule. It's like, I can talk about my mom. You can absolutely not talk shit about my mom.

[Kale Lowry]

Yeah. So it was like, I'm going to you up.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Okay.

[Kale Lowry]

First car, 2001 Nissan Sentra. It was red and it was stick shift.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

That is still wild to me. And I feel like we need to get like long form video of you teaching me how to drive a stick because I have never one time in my life ever tried.

[Kale Lowry]

Oh, I'll do. Let's do that. Let's plan to do that at some point.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

But like, where are we going to find a car like that?

[Kale Lowry]

I think we can rent one. Can we ask for one that's like stick shift?

[Podcast Co-host (possibly Lindsey Chrisley or guest)]

Yeah.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Oh, wait, I've got a funny story to tell you. So when I was talking to State Farm the other day, he was like, Ms. Chrisley, is your Bronco an automatic? And I go like, it just goes. And he's like,

[Podcast Co-host (possibly Lindsey Chrisley or guest)]

no.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

And I said, what do you mean like an automatic? I didn't know that's what it was called. I thought it was just like a regular car.

[Kale Lowry]

Well, there's manual and then there's automatic.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

And the manual ones where you're like,

[Kale Lowry]

the stick shift out and about.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Do you think it would be hard for me to learn? I feel like it's going to be a feat, honestly. And I feel like I'm gonna get very aggravated.

[Kale Lowry]

I had to teach myself because.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

But how did you teach yourself that? And don't you have to have, like, good foot movement?

[Kale Lowry]

So there's the clutch, and then there's the gas and the brake, so you have to use both feet. Where in an automatic car, you only use one foot, you use your right foot. But in a. In a stick shift, you use both. And then when you're putting your foot on the gas and, like, the clutch, you have to, like, level it out, and then you have to, like, put your foot on the clutch to. To shift every time.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

It was basically illegal to drive with two feet.

[Kale Lowry]

Not with a clutch, not when you have stick shift.

[Podcast Co-host (possibly Lindsey Chrisley or guest)]

Okay.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

My first car was. Remember when, like, they first came out with the retro Beetle bugs?

[Kale Lowry]

Yes.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah. So it was, like, baby blue.

[Kale Lowry]

Are you serious? Do you have pictures of that thing?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Oh, yeah. I can show you what it looks like. It looks like.

[Kale Lowry]

That would be so cute. It's so crazy how, like, now I can't picture, like, these little cars look so weird. Everything is so big. And I know people in just, like, this. People in Europe think Americans are so crazy because our cars are so big.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

It looked like that.

[Kale Lowry]

That's amazing. But don't they have also a lot of public transportation? Like, it's so much easier to, like, drive in Europe. But, like, here in America, our cars are so much bigger than Europe.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Little, tiny, like, Fiats or whatever.

[Kale Lowry]

Do you think that people in other countries have 7K?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

No. Okay. But I was really upset about my Beetle Bug.

[Podcast Co-host (possibly Lindsey Chrisley or guest)]

Okay.

[Kale Lowry]

Because what happened to it?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Well, it was. I got that whenever I got my learner's permit, and that's, like, what I learned to drive on. And then it was a couple of days before my 16th birthday, and I was having a sweet 16 at my house, and I go into the garage, and the Beetle bug's just, like, gone. And I'm, like, devastated. My friends are coming over. I'm 16. I can, like, whip this thing around the house. Like, this is so fun. And then it was obviously a sweet 16, so I got a Mercedes C230 compressor.

[Kale Lowry]

Okay.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Was like, my car that I drove on my own.

[Kale Lowry]

Okay. But what did the Beetle.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Todd sold it to Volkswagen. First celebrity crush.

[Kale Lowry]

First celebrity crush crush was.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Oh, I know mine off the top of my head.

[Kale Lowry]

Isaac Hansen,

[Lindsay Chrisley]

how old were you?

[Kale Lowry]

7 oh, wow.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

So you had a crush. Like.

[Kale Lowry]

Like early on, I wrote letters to him. Where did you send them to? Probably to the fan club. But actually I had my babysitter. I told her what to write and I didn't want him. I didn't want them to think that I was young. Like, what? How so? I would have her write it in her handwriting. Cuz she was an adult. Well, teenager. So she wrote what I said to write and then we mailed it to the fan club.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

So we were bamboozling the Hansons.

[Kale Lowry]

Yes.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I love that. My first celebrity crush. And it sounds so crazy, but I was in high school. I really didn't.

[Kale Lowry]

High school?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah. Like, I didn't.

[Kale Lowry]

I've been boy crazy since 7 years old is kind of diabolical.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah. I honestly thought at some point something was very severely wrong with me. And like, at this point, I know

[Kale Lowry]

there is, but they haven't found it yet.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

They haven't found out what it is. It's the disease. I never had a crush until I was in ninth grade.

[Kale Lowry]

Honestly, that's a sign of good parenting, but. Or something.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Guess what you think it is. Guess who you think it is.

[Kale Lowry]

Bradley Cooper.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

No, but that would be a good one. He is pretty hot.

[Kale Lowry]

Chad Michael Murray.

[Guest or Sponsor Voice]

No.

[Kale Lowry]

Tim the Tool Man Taylor.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Tim the Tool Man Taylor is wild. No, Tim Tool Man Kale's just like. I really want him to be my dad, so therefore I'm gonna have a crush on him. The Tool Man Taylor. What does he even look like? I forget.

[Kale Lowry]

Is that. Is that daddy issue?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

This is insane. Like, yes.

[Kale Lowry]

Can you be my dad and my daddy also?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

First of all, how did you just pull that out?

[Kale Lowry]

Because that was her love. It's in the vault. Kale. What?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

You have got to be.

[Kale Lowry]

What's his name? Tim Allen.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Me named Tim Allen. Tim Allen. I loved him like, with a hammer. That guy looks like that finance guy. That, like.

[Kale Lowry]

What the.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Clark Howard.

[Kale Lowry]

What?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Clark Howard?

[Kale Lowry]

Who the is Clark Howard?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Clark Howard. Hold on, let me show you. Actually, he's probably not going to look anything like him, but doesn't Tim Allen

[Podcast Co-host (possibly Lindsey Chrisley or guest)]

kind of look like.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Well, you should listen to his podcast. I'm putting Clark Howard on because he comes up. I think he was the one who invented the budgeting method of using envelopes.

[Kale Lowry]

No, that was. I'm pretty sure. No, no, no, no, no.

[Sponsor Disclosure Voice]

I don't know.

[Kale Lowry]

I don't. Budget.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Budgeting is.

[Kale Lowry]

That was somebody else that was.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Wait, maybe Clark Howard doesn't even do finance.

[Kale Lowry]

Hold on. I don't think We're.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Well, like, look at him.

[Kale Lowry]

Is that Bill Nye the science guy?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

That's Clark Howard.

[Kale Lowry]

No, that's Bill nye.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

It says WSB's Clark Howard Professional tight. Tight wad in Atlanta's sweetheart.

[Kale Lowry]

What is a tight wad?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

A cheapskate. How are you professional skate or cheapskate.

[Kale Lowry]

But is. How are you a professional at that?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Well, I don't know. You just. I feel like that's a title that you give yourself.

[Kale Lowry]

You're frugal.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah, Frugal.

[Kale Lowry]

Okay.

[Podcast Co-host (possibly Lindsey Chrisley or guest)]

Frugal.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Extreme.

[Kale Lowry]

Extreme couponing vibes.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah.

[Kale Lowry]

Okay.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

We should really follow some stuff that he does.

[Kale Lowry]

Lindsay. I actually stopped by a fabletic store in Minneapolis.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Was it so good?

[Kale Lowry]

It was so good. They actually had stuff that I had not seen and they had stuff that I had just bought which was really cool.

[Podcast Co-host (possibly Lindsey Chrisley or guest)]

Okay. So I was wearing the cutest fabletics outfit the other day. I went to my local restaurant that I'm always at and literally four or five people asked me, where did you get that? That is the cutest outfit.

[Kale Lowry]

I'm obsessed. Lincoln asked me to get him Fabletics pants cuz he likes the material.

[Podcast Co-host (possibly Lindsey Chrisley or guest)]

They're so good.

[Kale Lowry]

So good. When I signed up as a new VIP with Fabletics, I got 70 to 80 off everything. It made it so easy to grab multiple matching sets, biker shorts, tanks, lounge pieces for summer. And I didn't have to overthink it.

[Podcast Co-host (possibly Lindsey Chrisley or guest)]

I wear Fabletics at least one time a day.

[Kale Lowry]

I love Fabletics. I have the leggings, the shorts, the jackets, the sports bras and I wear them as complete sets sometimes and I love it.

[Podcast Co-host (possibly Lindsey Chrisley or guest)]

And since I don't have a butt, I love the scrunchie bottoms.

[Kale Lowry]

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[Kale Lowry]

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[Lindsay Chrisley]

crush ever was Nick Lachey.

[Kale Lowry]

Okay, new. I didn't see that. I could totally see that. I think that that's giving. He's gonna look like Tim the Tool Man Taylor as an adult, like, as a grown man.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Nobody looks like Tim the Tool Man Taylor.

[Kale Lowry]

Like, it's giving.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

How does Nick Lachey with like a arm tat and spiky hair give Tim the Tool Man Taylor?

[Kale Lowry]

Well, they both.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

What world are you in? Wait, explain this because I'm not letting it go.

[Kale Lowry]

Lean, middle aged men that have brown hair.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Nick Lachey looks exactly the he did when he was on Newlyweds and when he was on 98 degrees. I mean, he looked a little greasier, like on 98 degrees, but he looks exactly the same. I could really get behind it.

[Kale Lowry]

So you never had a crush before high school? No, I used to. My mom's Chrysler when I was seven and put my. Put my sweatshirt on the seat next to me and pretend it was Isaac Hansen. Kill and talk to him, like, in my head. It's like an imaginary friend.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Wait, so you would sit in the back seat of the car and put a sweatshirt over, like, the seat?

[Kale Lowry]

Well, I would just, like, lay it as if my boyfriend's gonna break up with me after this, like, trying to understand her mind. I'm sorry. At least his name was Isaac.

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[Lindsay Chrisley]

Wait, was this a Hansen sweatshirt?

[Kale Lowry]

No, it was.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

It was just like a regular sweatshirt.

[Kale Lowry]

Yeah.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

And I was a lonely child. But can you walk me through, like, what these conversations were that you were having?

[Kale Lowry]

It was just like. So what did you do today? Oh, bat in her attic. It doesn't know that he wasn't there for that.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Wait, what?

[Kale Lowry]

You should listen to the podcast.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I. I am honestly concerned you're gonna fake that. Wait, what? You made it up?

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[Lindsay Chrisley]

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[Podcast Co-host (possibly Lindsey Chrisley or guest)]

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[Lindsay Chrisley]

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[Kale Lowry]

No, that's two separ story. I'm sorry.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

That's two separate lies.

[Kale Lowry]

Two separate sisters. Yeah. Yeah, it was. The picture on the keychain was me, but I would tell people it was my sister and her name was Melissa. But it was you. It was me.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

And having a crush on Tim the Tool Man Taylor while all of this was transpiring and you were talking to somebody that was a sweatshirt.

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[Lindsay Chrisley]

Have you ever been evaluated?

[Kale Lowry]

Is this borderline personality Disorder. It's a disease.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

But did you feel like Lindy?

[Kale Lowry]

I was so traumatized as a child. You have to understand how lonely I was. Like, this is the same era. This. This is. Okay, so the keychain, pretending it was my sister.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah.

[Kale Lowry]

And Zach. Or not Zach. Isaac Hansen. Because there's also Zach Hansen and Isaac Hansen and Tip. NATO Man Taylor was all during the same era. This was the same era that I asked my mom at 9 Wood street, when I was eating mud pies.

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[Kale Lowry]

And second was I was asking my mom, where do babies come from? How do I get a sibling? And she said, you have to pray really hard. So I prayed really hard. And so I'm forced out of, like, pure trauma to, like, have I. What? I was an only child, and my mom neglected me. Like, I. What am I doing? I'm making up scenarios in my head.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

And then she's having a babysitter write a letter to somebody in their handwriting so that she could act like she was 16.

[Guest or Sponsor Voice]

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[Lindsay Chrisley]

Kin. At what point did you realize he, like, wasn't there?

[Kale Lowry]

No, I always knew he wasn't there.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Oh, so you knew. You were aware. I'm, like, really trying to break up with me, y'.

[Kale Lowry]

All.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I was number one oldish child, and by the time I was seven, I had a brother that was 15 months younger than me, and then my other brother was already born. So I feel like I. With me being the only girl in that scenario, I was still, like, so invested in Barbies. I was so invested. I don't know if Mary Kate and Ashley was out when we were seven or not.

[Kale Lowry]

Yeah. Because they were on Full house in the 90s, so probably so.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Maybe so very invested in, like, Spice Girls.

[Kale Lowry]

Oh, yeah.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Now, did I like Backstreet Boys? Yes. But if I went into that, that was back in the day when I was, like, a super reader. So I would go and get books on, like, individual Spice Girl, get all of the Barbies. Like, that's the type of stuff that I was invested in at 7. And, like, Christine Aguilera, wasn't that when she, like, came out with Genie in a bottle? Probably, like, around a little older.

[Kale Lowry]

We were a little older. Genie in a Bottle came out when I was in, like, second, third grade. So you're, like, eight, nine.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

So I'm 10. Okay, that makes sense. So have you always been, like, an imat. Were you an imaginative child?

[Kale Lowry]

Yes, because I was. When I tell you I think a

[Lindsay Chrisley]

lot of only children are like that.

[Kale Lowry]

My early childhood, before I would say Second grade. Like, I'm talking alone all the time. Like, really all the time. My. I think that I have such a, like, a conflicted feel. I have conflicted feelings about only children because of my experience. But when I hear, like, you have an only child, my hair stylist Taylor, said she was one and done. And you guys integrate your only children into so many different social settings with different age kids, you're friends with kids, all of those types of things. That wasn't me. So I kind of didn't have a choice. And I wasn't a reader because my mom never helped me with that kind of stuff. So I never was a reader as a kid. So it's not like I was, like, immersing myself in, like, reading and that, like I do now.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah.

[Kale Lowry]

So I think that it was just purely out of desperation.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I mean, I know we're sitting here laughing, but also, it's so sad at the same time. You know, it's kind of like you make light of stuff that you've moved past, but, like, did you really move past it?

[Kale Lowry]

No. I think you just learn how to cope differently as time goes on. It becomes a different sort of trauma as you get older. Like, the trauma. The trauma, the original trauma is always there, but it becomes. It conforms almost right. Like, I don't know how to describe it. So, like, I'm aware of those things, but, like, what do you do about it? You know? And I didn't have cousins. I was the only grandchild for 13 years.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

That's just such a lonely life. And then to be neglected by your mother.

[Kale Lowry]

And then my mom moved me from my grandparents, so then I didn't have them either. And I. At that time, my mom's little brother, who I still have a relationship with now, had started having his kids, but I had already moved hours away. So it wasn't like I grew up, like, babysitting them or hanging out with them. Even as toddlers, I was never around small children.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

So I'm wondering if that's why you have, like, such a. Maybe that's why you have so many kids. But also maybe that's why you're like, I would never want to have an only child. And, like, I don't understand why somebody would do that. But to your point, I think I'm raising Jackson socialized with people, adults, other children.

[Kale Lowry]

Like, all those things. Take him to go do stuff.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yes.

[Kale Lowry]

I don't remember my. I only remember my mom taking me to Pizza Hut when I was in sixth grade. She took me To Pizza Hut. I think once, maybe twice when she was sober, on her day off. I don't remember spending any time with my mom. One on one.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Was she.

[Kale Lowry]

So it's like you, you socialize Jackson, but you also spend quality one on one time with him. You take him to go do stuff. I didn't have that.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

That's just such a sad and like, lonely childhood. Literally. No wonder you have so many kids.

[Kale Lowry]

Which is weird too though, because I was never good with kids. Like, I. I was never around kids.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Okay, first concert.

[Kale Lowry]

Britney Spears.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Spice Girls. Spice Girls. And it was so good. I wish I still had the T shirt because I would wear it as a crop top now.

[Kale Lowry]

When did Victoria Beckham become too good for Spice Girls? Because Ginger was the first one to leave Jerry. And I had her on Barely Famous.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

She was my favorite Spice Girl.

[Kale Lowry]

Like, why? Because then it was basically like there was. Because Ginger Spice left Baby Sporty. What was the deal with that? Why did she leave?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Wouldn't that be like so crazy to be so successful but be a group of girls like that and then it just all kind of like fall apart. But I could also see why it would. But I feel like if you look at the guy groups, like, there's way more longevity in those than the girl groups. Backstreet Boys, NSync.

[Kale Lowry]

Yeah, yeah. Actually, I take that back. I went to a. Do you remember Schweze that they had a really like a one hit wonder. Like two songs that were really good. That was my first concert.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

And who did you go with?

[Kale Lowry]

My friend Stephanie. It was on a school night at Crock Rock.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

And your mom didn't like, did she buy your ticket? Like, how did you.

[Kale Lowry]

No, I worked at McDonald's, so I bought it.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Oh, you bought it with your 16?

[Kale Lowry]

By the 15 or 16. When I got. Went to my first concert.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Well, I went to Spice Girls. I had to have been little.

[Kale Lowry]

Yeah, Spice Girls had to be in like the 90s, early 2000s for sure.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I had every Spice Girl Barbie. And Ginger was actually the hardest Barbie to find. And I would call all the local Walmarts to like, see when they were going to have it. And then my grandparents would take me to get, like, because they did different drops at different Walmart.

[Kale Lowry]

My favorite two Spice Girls were scary and sporty. But I've always felt like I've had like a little bit of masculine energy. So that always.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

That makes so much sense.

[Kale Lowry]

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[Podcast Co-host (possibly Lindsey Chrisley or guest)]

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[Kale Lowry]

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[Lindsay Chrisley]

She broke it at Skate Away.

[Kale Lowry]

Yeah, on accident. I was 12. And then I never got another cell phone until I was 16. The day, the morning after I woke up from my abortion, I had a slider. The pink Kyocera slide phone. Oh yeah, that one.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Okay.

[Kale Lowry]

And obviously I had like a BlackBerry and like a razor, but they were all used like later on.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

The first time I ever got a cell phone was in eighth grade. And it was like a hand me down phone from my dad. So it was kind of like a more like like business phone. Somebody stole it out of my backpack in eighth grade and I was so scared to Tell my parents.

[Kale Lowry]

What did you do?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Well, they just finally were like, lindsay, where's your phone? And I'm like, don't know. They're like, did you lose it? No, somebody stole it. And my dad's like, well, nobody else would have that phone, so find out who has it. And then my next phone was. I feel like it was like a pink razor.

[Kale Lowry]

Yeah. I got a used one that was like, broken, but it served its purpose.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah.

[Kale Lowry]

Yep.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Remember when, like, sidekicks were so cool? I had a sidekick and like, everybody wanted them.

[Kale Lowry]

Can they bring them back?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

And it's just like the dramatic effect of a sidekick is just amazing.

[Kale Lowry]

Amazing. I had one in high school. I loved it.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

And then remember back when, like, blackberries

[Kale Lowry]

were so popular, I also had it. Everything I got was like, hand me down. But yeah, I had a hand me down BlackBerry too. I didn't have the. A Internet plan because I couldn't afford. Because by the time I got a BlackBerry, I paid for my own phone.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah.

[Kale Lowry]

So I couldn't afford the Internet part of it. So I had the BlackBerry but couldn't do anything on it. Just text and call. That was it. Defeated the whole purpose.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

BBM was legit.

[Kale Lowry]

Was it like AIM, but for BlackBerry?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah, basically. Yeah.

[Kale Lowry]

How do you feel about, like,

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[Kale Lowry]

talked about this a long time ago, but like, your kids having things that are trending and like, do you feel like if you don't participate in certain trending things, they're missing out on certain aspects of their childhood?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I think back to when we were in school and it's like, I've talked about the jelly shoes for forever and I'm like.

[Kale Lowry]

And Lisa Frank and things like that.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Like Lisa Frank. And I feel like I would have felt so left out in those moments if I didn't have the same stuff. So I only, like, imagine what my child would feel like if he didn't have the stuff. But I do think to some degree, like, there's too much for sure.

[Kale Lowry]

But like, for example, my mom's ex husband had given me the cell phone, the Motorola one. I was in seventh grade. I think it was seventh or eighth grade. And then it broke. It was just the screen, but like, it still worked. Yeah, it was just cracked. And when he saw it, he's like, you're never getting this again. So he took it away and never. He never gave it back. But then I do feel like everybody else had phones and was texting and I missed out on that.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah.

[Kale Lowry]

And then same for like, like the Lisa Frank stuff. I There are certain trends for my kids that are just basic at this point.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah, I could see that. I think they're.

[Kale Lowry]

They're like a basic. Not. I don't want to call it necessity, but there are certain things that I feel like are. Like. Like.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Like, for example, I could never imagine sending my child to school knowing that he, like, rides the school bus home and he's at school and doesn't have a cell phone.

[Kale Lowry]

Yeah.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Like, I don't know. Our kids don't necessarily need to have cell phones, but I feel safer with him having a cell phone. So that wasn't necessarily, like, I'm purchasing this for you because it's trending because everybody else has it. It's more of, I want you to have this. So if you ever need to get in contact with me, you're like, one button away.

[Kale Lowry]

So I wonder, like, what that was for my parents. And by parents, I mean my mom and whoever she was with at the time. Right. Like, you didn't care if I couldn't call you or, like, I don't know.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Well, I think it. It's the priorities just weren't there. Like, that wasn't a priority to them.

[Kale Lowry]

I'll be honest with you. There's not a time. Lincoln's older now, before Javi and I used to take it away when he wouldn't be, you know, consequences or whatever. But, like, now taking a cell phone away is never going to be a punishment. Like, that's just not a punishment, because that is a means to communication. That is a lifeline at this point. That is. And it. It's weird because I'm like. I'm trying to think of other things that sort of.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Same people that say that, though. And then out of a different breath, we're like, we wish that school went back to what it used to be, where it was pen and paper. And, like, there is something that I think kids miss out on today that we had back in the 90s that they'll never be able to relate to.

[Podcast Co-host (possibly Lindsey Chrisley or guest)]

Right.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Like, there's so much more grown now than we were at their ages. Like, I look at Jackson at 13, and, yeah, like, he. You met him yesterday, and I feel like he's very kid. Like. Like, he's. I don't feel like he's growing up too fast. He is, you know, into just basketball and needles right now. Right. He doesn't really care about having the trending stuff, but, like. Like, I will notice when it gets time for his birthday or Christmas, he'll put it on a list. And it's like. Like the Nike Elite backpack, for example. He's like, everybody has that backpack. And I'm like, yeah, Jackson, but I just bought you a North Face backpack, like, three months ago. So I'm not buying you a new backpack. And then I'll get it for him. Like, I'm not. I'm not a parent that's gonna buy it immediately just because it's trending, just because he wants it.

[Kale Lowry]

So Alessandra just said, you literally put what I'm thinking of into words. So, Alison, I was asking about, like, Lisa Frank and, like, the cell phone thing. Alessandro basically is saying, like, today the trending things are more materialistic. Where when we were growing up, it was more of, like, a childhood experience. Yes. Like, Lisa Frank was a childhood experience. The jelly shoes was a childhood experience. Like, those types of. That's what I was. That's what I was trying to say. Like, do you ever feel like. Like, that there are certain things that I'm like, I don't. Like, the needles is a childhood experience to me. Like, yes, it's trending. I think needles falls under both.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah, I agree.

[Kale Lowry]

But there are certain things that are just materialistic. Like, would you say that Stanley is materialistic, or would you say that that's a childhood experience?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I would say it's materialistic. And they're watching, like, for girls specifically. They're watching, like, the Alex Earls that are, you know, doing these makeup videos. And they're like, okay, well, now I need to go to Sephora. Like, that is her target audience.

[Kale Lowry]

Wow.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I don't know that I would. I mean, I don't know. I don't have a daughter, so I'm

[Kale Lowry]

talking about boys, too. I think boys go through it just as much.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Okay, what was your first social media account?

[Kale Lowry]

Zanga.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

MySpace. What's Zanga?

[Kale Lowry]

It's like a blog. It's like.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

You like blogging?

[Kale Lowry]

Yeah. It's like. And you do, like, a layout and the falling crowd. It was like MySpace before MySpace, but no top eight. And then, like, you put, like, what you did that day,

[Lindsay Chrisley]

but, like, what would you say?

[Kale Lowry]

Well, I got in trouble one time because when I went to Mexico with Ariel, we took pictures on the plane and stuff, like, going to Mexico, and we. She put, like, first of all, her mom. Her parents let us drink. I didn't. But mudslides, they're like 2% alcohol. My parents used to drink mudslides, and she's, like, drunk. Before we got off the plane, first of all, we were 14. We weren't drunk? Like, No, I didn't even drink on the plane. We. She had mudslides while we were in Mexico, and my neighbor told on me and was like, she wrote this on her zanga. And it was, like, pictures of us, like, in Mexico. And it was like, we went to Mexico and, like, it was like, you told your mom? Yeah, my mom didn't say anything about the Mexico thing.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

She didn't give a. MySpace was crazy. Like, think about, like, the MySpace days. That was back at the same time when I feel like we used AIM or aim, you know? And that was really, like, the life.

[Kale Lowry]

That was a feel. Like, that was the experience.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

It was an experience.

[Kale Lowry]

Just because it was trendy. That was an experience.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yes. And an experience that a lot of us didn't need to have.

[Kale Lowry]

Oh, I didn't have it until I was in high school.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

AIM was, like, crazy, though, because I remember putting up some of the most diabolical, like, away messages, and it would be away for, like, 14 days because I wasn't allowed back on the computer. And it's like, be right back. Don't respond to me because Todd might see it. Like, that's my away message that everybody's getting. Like, what is going on? But, like, what were y' all talking about in there?

[Kale Lowry]

The conversations. My. The dinosaur of a computer that I would use. First of all, I wasn't supposed to be on it. And second of all, it would, like, restart or, like, glitch, and it would take me out of the chat rooms, and then I would never get to talk to those people ever again.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Oh, my gosh. See? No, I was actually terrified of strangers. I'm still terrified of strangers, but could never be me.

[Kale Lowry]

Do you think the Hansons will, like, reach out and be like, let's meet?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

No, Kale, I think you're past the time, you know. Oh, I forgot about that song. Do y' all remember back when, like, you couldn't get Facebook unless you had a college email account?

[Kale Lowry]

No. I must have joined after that.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah.

[Kale Lowry]

From Ariel's computer.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Not wait to get on Facebook, because all the seniors when I was a junior, they were all making Facebooks when they got accepted to college. Sketch. College email. And I'm like, how do I somehow get accepted to a school without applying and getting the email so I can get on Facebook? Like, I was ready to be on Facebook.

[Kale Lowry]

Yeah. They must have opened it by the time I got to it, because it was.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

You used to have to be invited.

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[Kale Lowry]

I think that might have. I think Ariel might have invited me or told me about it because I remember making it at her house. A new school year means a fresh start. And for families that are looking for a new path to help their their child succeed, K12 could be the perfect fit. I'm one of those moms where if my kids don't want to go to that school anymore, I'm going to support them.

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[Kale Lowry]

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[Lindsay Chrisley]

I wish I could get into my college Facebook because what you guys would see you would be like what the actual. Remember like the digital cameras and we would just load the like SIM cards or whatever they're called into and to a Facebook album and it's like it didn't matter if the picture was good or not. No, we just uploaded it just was Everything that was in the.

[Kale Lowry]

You don't want to see what? So some of the girls that I went to school with are coming to our Philly show, and one of them logged into their photo bucket last week and sent me a picture. You're not ready. I used a fake email so I can't reset my password.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Photo bucket.

[Kale Lowry]

I don't think I ever place that you could, like, upload, like, pictures.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Kale, this was you. Wait, these were the kind of. Yeah, these are the types of photos I'm talking about. Like, back in the day, like, what were we doing?

[Kale Lowry]

And the Hollister jackets with the fur hoods.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

The Hollister jackets with the fur hoods

[Kale Lowry]

or the Abercrombie jacket with the fur hood?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Okay. Were we Hollister or Abercrombie?

[Kale Lowry]

I couldn't afford either one, so it was whatever was on clearance. Hollister jeans and Abercrombie jeans at that time did not make them for. Even though I was very, like, an average size.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah.

[Kale Lowry]

I probably wore in high school, like, a size 8 or a size 10. They didn't have a big selection in those sizes, so I could only fit into their tops. And usually it was I. I got Ariel's hand me downs. Shout out to Ariel.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Ariel was really, like, doing the most for you.

[Kale Lowry]

Yeah.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I love that. When was the first time you ever wore makeup?

[Kale Lowry]

Sixth grade. I had acne. Really bad.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I was in. Yeah, sixth grade when I went to middle school.

[Kale Lowry]

I started wearing foundation in sixth grade.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Oh, really? Oh, I wasn't allowed to wear foundation. I was allowed to just, like, wear eye stuff and lip gloss.

[Kale Lowry]

I think if Susie said I wasn't allowed to do something, I would have punched her in the face.

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[Lindsay Chrisley]

See? Yeah. I wasn't trying to do all that.

[Kale Lowry]

Me and my mom used to fist fight.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

You did? What would happen?

[Kale Lowry]

Nothing.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

So y' all would just fist fight each other and then, like, go to bed. Would you be doing this while she was drunk?

[Kale Lowry]

Yeah, only when she was drunk or, like, up.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Really?

[Kale Lowry]

It was the sound of her voice that would literally, like, thinking about it right now sends me to another orbit.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

What? Like, her drunk voice and, like, she

[Kale Lowry]

wasn't a mean drunk, but, like, it just got under my skin to the point where it would just send you, like. Yeah.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Over the edge. But, like, how would the fight start?

[Kale Lowry]

I don't know.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

They just escalated to a fist fight.

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[Kale Lowry]

Yeah.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I don't think I wore foundation until I think it was in ninth grade. I don't think I was allowed.

[Kale Lowry]

Because you probably had good parents.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I Don't think Todd was green lighting that. Okay. First time you ever paid a bill?

[Kale Lowry]

If I had to guess, maybe 16. I had to start paying my own phone bill. So. 16. I used to have to physically go into T mobile and pay my bill.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I don't think I ever paid a bill until I started paying like big bills. You know what I mean? Like, and I know that that's fortunate for me and I was like, blessed, but I don't think I ever paid a bill until I paid for my like HOA at my condo and like utilities.

[Kale Lowry]

Oh, okay. Like in college or something. Okay.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Well, because my parents, they, they bought me a condo, but I had certain bills there that I was responsible. Like, I worked at my parents office and I was responsible for certain of those bills. So they paid the mortgage, but it was in a building that had an HOA.

[Kale Lowry]

Okay.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

And the dues for the HOA alone were 800amonth in that building.

[Kale Lowry]

That's a hefty bill.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah. So I was responsible for paying that and then for my TV, like DirecTV I think I had back then, and power, and I think water was included in the HoA. But I was responsible for paying those bills. And I'm pretty sure that's the first time I ever paid a bill.

[Kale Lowry]

Oh, wow. I mean, those are big bills to be your first bill.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I know that's crazy, but my parents let me save like for a long while because I lived at home when I was a freshman in college and that was kind of like, like the rule. My parents were like, okay, you're only 45 minutes from school. You have a job. Prove yourself to like, prove that you can be out on your own by yourself. I had a curfew. I had to be home at 11 o'.

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[Lindsay Chrisley]

Unless I was sleeping out with like sorority sisters or whatever, I was not allowed to come in that house after 11 o'.

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[Lindsay Chrisley]

Todd put on that alarm and it would not be going off.

[Kale Lowry]

How do you feel about, like, Jackson paying bills or anything like that? You know, as he gets older, like, what about like, for example, car insurance or stuff like that?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I don't know. I feel like people are gonna beat me up for saying this, but I feel like as long as he lives at home and I'm not saying like, okay, he's living at home and he's 25 years old and I'm still going to be doing it, but I do feel like if I am in a position to where will and I can pay it like in the early 20s, like as long as he's in school and doing something productive in society and like possibly has a job, then I wouldn't make him pay for it.

[Kale Lowry]

Yeah, I. Elliot doesn't pay for his like car.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I'm not saying it's wrong if a parent chooses to have their child do that to like learn responsibility, but I don't know, I think I would just want Jackson to save his money and we could do it for as long as we could. I was on my parents dental, vision and medical until I expired out and then I had to get my own.

[Kale Lowry]

I was just about to say I think Elliot's quote for car insurance is like over $600. So like he couldn't. I mean yes, because he does social media and he makes a good amount of money from social media but as we all know, social media is. It ebbs and flows. Yeah. So one month he might make $3,000 and the next month he might make 250. So like it's not even a realistic expectation for me to expect him to pay for $600 of car insurance.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I don't know if this is true, but I'm gonna say it because I think it is true. I think that I was authorized driver on my parents insurance. Does that sound right?

[Kale Lowry]

I don't know how that works. All I know is I pay a lot of money for Elliot's insurance.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Okay, next question. First time you said I love you

[Kale Lowry]

14, who was it? John Leshko. We were in a relationship for four. For one year.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

One year at 14.

[Kale Lowry]

We were, we dated from eighth grade to ninth grade. Oh wow.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

So I had a boyfriend when I was. I didn't have a boyfriend until I was in a junior in high school and he was a junior in college. He was my dad's intern. And I could never say I love you. I would always say I'm in like with you. Like I couldn't, I couldn't do it. And the first person I ever told in a relationship that I loved them was Will.

[Kale Lowry]

That's really sweet actually. That's really sweet.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah. But I just couldn't. And I'm like, who came up with I'm in like with you?

[Kale Lowry]

That sounds like something I would have said.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Like I don't throw around I love you, I love yous. Very often I feel like it's such a serious statement to make to somebody. Just like off the rip.

[Kale Lowry]

Yeah.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

And so I never. And, and I had in my mind, I think because I didn't have a boyfriend for so long, like I was almost out of high school by the time I had one that I was so committed to, like, trying to save myself for marriage. And the person that I was going to be with would be the person that I would tell I love you for the first time. So I think some of that's raising too, right?

[Kale Lowry]

Absolutely.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

And Kale's just like, I love my sweatshirt.

[Kale Lowry]

Oh, I loved Isaac Hansen and Taylor Hansen and Zach Hansen. I loved them.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

When I went to college, I said, I'm not. I liked my high school boyfriend, and we dated over a summer and, like, into the fall, but he went back to Auburn. And I'm like, this is just, like, not gonna work out. He's hanging out with girls who are, like, on the cheerleading squad at Auburn. Obviously, this guy is not gonna give a about me, you know? And so I would see pictures, like, surface of him with, like, cheerleader girls. And I'm like, okay, well, I don't want to be in a relationship ever again. And then I got to college, and I said, I'm only going to focus on school and school my sorority. And then I met Will. The first month that I was in college, he was at a mutual friend's apartment spitting grizzly wintergreen into his carpet.

[Kale Lowry]

And you're like, what a story. And you're like, and the rest is history. The rest is history. Yeah.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

And then he got my number, and I pretended I will never forget this. Like, the first time he ever texted me, he was like, hey, it's me. And we have been, like, chatting, you know, like the Facebook chat.

[Kale Lowry]

Yeah.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

And so we had been chatting on Facebook, and I gave him my number, and then he immediately texting you. And I said, who is this?

[Kale Lowry]

It's me.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Like, as if I didn't know that. I just gave him my phone number. I want to, like, play hard to get, you know, like, you can't have me, period.

[Kale Lowry]

And now you'll have a little.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

A little boy, a little bambino.

[Kale Lowry]

A little bambino. Most of us picked up a bank around 16. I think I was 15 or 16 as well. And everyone hates the bank fees, but nobody really told me about them.

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[Kale Lowry]

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[Lindsay Chrisley]

oh, I would love to know this one. Actually. The first time you cooked a real

[Kale Lowry]

meal, 2011, what was it? Tacos.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

That's the first time ever.

[Kale Lowry]

I was in my first apartment 2011. I had just moved out of Joe's parents house and I got my first apartment with Elliot. And I had never cooked ground beef before.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Really?

[Kale Lowry]

I was I guess 19 or 20.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Wow. And to think that you were a mom so much earlier. Did Joe's parents cook for y'?

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[Kale Lowry]

Sometimes.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

But like what would y' all eat if you weren't cooking fast food? Oh, eat out all the time. It's probably why you don't eat out now.

[Kale Lowry]

That's not to say we don't order in.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Oh, that is true. I guess y' all do do that.

[Kale Lowry]

When was the first time you cooked?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I grew up in a cooking house, so I feel like it cooked for you.

[Kale Lowry]

Like growing up, it wasn't like takeout all the time.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Oh no, we rarely ever had takeout. And if, I mean if we ate out somewhere, it would be like an Italian restaurant or a Mexican restaurant or maybe like Cheesecake Factory. If we went to the mall. Like they were certain. Like sometimes we would go to the food court if we were like shopping. Remember, like Sparro Pizza or whatever it's called.

[Kale Lowry]

Yeah, I still love, how do you call it? It Sparrow. Yeah, I still love Sparrow.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

It's so good. But I grew up in a cooking house. Like there was never a night that I can recall in my childhood that Julie didn't have like a full meal on the table. Like a fresh, a fresh batch of sweet Tea was made every single night for dinner. Always, like, asides. If we were having lasagna, it would be like. Like, a pan of lasagna and a fresh salad with homemade ranch dressing, garlic bread. Like, that was just, like, the norm in my house.

[Kale Lowry]

Lindsay. No, no. What is that a Southern thing?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I mean, I'm not saying that we never, like, like, got takeout, but it was so few and far between that I can't really, like, ever remember doing it. Like, in the summertime, we would eat mostly vegetables. So, like, fried okra, fried chicken, green beans, squash.

[Kale Lowry]

I had fried okra for the first time in September. Susie didn't cook and didn't order takeout.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I know, honey. You starved.

[Kale Lowry]

Like, there was no cooking ever. But there was also not takeout either.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

But it also breaks my heart sitting here thinking about my childhood. And, like, obviously, yes, I've had my differences and stuff with my parents publicly, but as far as them being, like, good and present parents, they were always good and present parents. And there was never a night that we would have ever gone to bed hungry. There was never any dirty clothes that. That were in the laundry room. Like, constantly running laundry, constantly making sure

[Podcast Co-host (possibly Lindsey Chrisley or guest)]

where we needed to be.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Like, all of the things that is

[Kale Lowry]

so fascinating to me because, I mean, like, I am genuinely trying to rack my brain thinking of a time that my mom ordered takeout, and there was no takeout there. I don't remember my mom ever ordered Chinese food. I don't remember my mom ever ordering pizza. I remember my childhood friend Sarah would order pizza on Fridays if I stayed the night at her house. I remember pizza over there. I don't remember takeout. And I know my mom never cooked. She made one meal in ninth grade.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

That just breaks. Honestly, it breaks my heart.

[Kale Lowry]

But then it's, like, contributing, I think, contributed to, like, I hate cooking. Like, I'll do it if I have to, but I don't like it. It's. There's not a single part of it that's enjoyable to me. But I also don't like eating out. So it's like. But I make sure in some way, something is made for my kids, like, whether it's takeout, whether we make it, whether it's. I don't care if it's from the freezer. Like, my kids are gonna eat.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

And we were big on family dinners. Like, everybody ate at the same time. And my sister and I always were in the kitchen. Like, I had a task, she had a task. I always was the kitchen cleaner at night, would start the Dishwasher, make sure everything's clean up, counters wiped off, somebody set, like, set the table. And we all sat as a family together every single night of my childhood.

[Kale Lowry]

I love that. That's actually really cool.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah. And I mean, like, in the summertimes, it was always like, a grill, you know, and it's like kebabs or grilled chicken and baked beans and potato salad and like, all the things. There was never a night in, in my childhood that I can ever recall that we did not have, like, an overabundance of, like. I mean, she cooks for an army. I do kind of feel like crock pot meals are very common in the south, more so than the North. Julie would put, like, cube steak in the crock pot or a roast in the crock pot before we went to

[Podcast Co-host (possibly Lindsey Chrisley or guest)]

school and come home.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

And it just, like, fix the sides and stuff.

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[Lindsay Chrisley]

But, like, kale, like, homemade macaroni and cheese. Like, I come from the best family of cooks. The best.

[Kale Lowry]

I don't even have anything to say because I don't know. I have no experience with that whatsoever.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

So, like, what's an average meal in your house now?

[Kale Lowry]

We eat a lot of pasta, tacos, rice. We eat rice a lot.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Do y' all grill at all?

[Kale Lowry]

Yeah, he does hibachi on the grill on the black top.

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[Kale Lowry]

Blackstone. Yeah. So, like, rice, chicken, egg. I'm trying to think. A lot of pasta, because it's easy, it's quick. Everybody eats it. I'm a big vegetable person. He's not a big vegetable person. The kids, it's hit or miss. Elliot's a big salad eater, so it just depends.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

But, like, what's for breakfast?

[Kale Lowry]

Lincoln makes himself eggs. The kids will eat cereal, bagels.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

So he can do it himself.

[Kale Lowry]

Yeah.

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[Lindsay Chrisley]

Oh, yeah. Jackson's not touching the stove. That would be an absolute disaster. I will show you what his breakfast typically looks like.

[Kale Lowry]

Love.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

It's like cinnamon rolls, couple pieces of bacon, banana, and a yogurt.

[Kale Lowry]

Love. That's great. That's great.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

But he's always been. It's so weird. Like, are your kids like this, where they get in a routine of they want the same stuff over and over, and then they'll come to you and they're like, I don't like that.

[Kale Lowry]

Yes. And you're like, okay, are you hyper fixating? That's your hyper fixation meal. Like, because I also do that, so. But my kids are like that in the morning, y'.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

All. I used to be like that with chipotle. Right before I got divorced, I would eat it every single day.

[Kale Lowry]

But then you stopped.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah. I don't think I've had it since.

[Kale Lowry]

I'm not a big. There was a small period of time where he got me onto Chipotle, but I do not eat Chipotle.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

When I had my job at Wendy's, I would always bring. My dad loves the Wendy's chili. And I'm like, if you ever saw what it looked like coming out of the bag, you would never eat that, sir.

[Kale Lowry]

It's like Hormel I. With Hormel chili. Really? But I also grew up on it. My nana made it for me.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I thought Hormel was like, what you put on a hot dog probably, but

[Kale Lowry]

it was in a can. I'd eat it cold.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I'm talking about chili with, like, beans in it.

[Kale Lowry]

Yeah, I'm talking about Hormel chili. I love it.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Beans in it.

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[Kale Lowry]

Yeah. You can get it with or without.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

And you love it.

[Kale Lowry]

I love it. I need it cold, hot, whatever. I don't care. Shout out to Susie. Dog food.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yes. That, to me, would remind me of a can of dog food.

[Kale Lowry]

But I. With it. If we went to the store right now and got Hormel chili, I would it up.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I think about the kids today, and I'm like, they're not gonna have any thing that we had. And I feel like they're just growing up so fast that, like. Like, time's not slowing down, and there's always new trends. Like, again, I'm gonna blame social media for everything. I know it's not just social media technology in general. It's just the technology. And I feel like we had to actually go outside and play. Like, we had razor scooters. Like, we had kneecaps that were burn off.

[Kale Lowry]

Like, I had skipped. We played manhunt.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yes. Yes. We would do that, like, on Friday night.

[Kale Lowry]

I mean, despite being neglected, I still have. There are good memories I had just, like, running the streets and just having a blast. But, yeah, I don't know what the. These kids today, they're not gonna have. There's nothing to look forward to. Like, when we were young, it was like, looking forward to getting a cell phone. Kids are getting cell phones at 6 and 7 years old. Kids are getting iPads. They have iPads before they have cell phones. So, like, the cell phone is not a big deal to them.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

But I think about the stories that we tell, and I'm like, that was actually like. Like living and being children.

[Kale Lowry]

Yeah.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I think about, like, touching Grass. My child has a child. What are his stories going to sound like to them? Because they're not going to be as interesting as ours, for sure.

[Kale Lowry]

Robotic as everything is going to be. So cookie cutter. Yeah. So like, what do you like? It'll be more like a competition of who has what and what they.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Who.

[Kale Lowry]

Who has what first. And it's not going to be the same as like waiting for a Disney Channel movie to drop at 8pm Eastern Standard Time. You know what I mean? Like, it's not going to be that. It's going to be some flying vehicle.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Because I almost feel like we live in a society where it's keeping up with the Joneses for everything.

[Kale Lowry]

So, like, even adults do it with each other.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yes.

[Kale Lowry]

And it's infuriating.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

On that note, we're gonna do foul play. Hey, ladies. Not my foul play, but I'm about to throw my husband under the. Under the bus as he deserves. We were on holiday about a week ago now. We'd been to a sports bar, had a few drinks and decided to go to a steakhouse. After sitting down and ordering food, he took. He took a turn and said he felt sick. I told him to stop being dramatic and he would be fine once our food came out. Anyway, our food came and I think I. The smell of it tipped him off a little bit. Anyway, the kids, yes, our kids were present. 8 and 13. We started digging into our food and I asked the waiter to wrap my. Up my husband to wrap up my hubbies. And he wasn't 100 and he 100 wasn't eating it. Anyway, I'd finished and nipped to the toilet. I feel like this person's from the uk.

[Kale Lowry]

Oh, for sure, from the uk.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

You know, on coming back, my kids were looking at me with what the is happening faces and my hus. My hubby was being sick at the table and yes, the table, on the table, everywhere. The waiter was on his way with a bucket. So I was mortified. Why his ass couldn't have gone outside or the toilet, I never know. Anyway, I paid up, chucked a €20 tip and went. Ladies, this story does not end yet. As we're walking back to the apartment, my husband then decides he needs to. I told him, hold it until we're near home. He said he couldn't. He stopped me. Kids carried on walking and we stopped. We stopped to look where he was. He just stood there leaning against a wall. My initial thought was he was having. That he was having a minute. How wrong was I? That grown ass 34 year old man had stood and took a in his pants. Me and my kids were gacking the whole way back and kept giving. Getting whiffs of him. He owes us big time. Love you ladies.

[Kale Lowry]

43 years old and took a.34. 34 years old, took a. In his pants. I resonate with that. I'm sorry, that's unfortunate. And you know that she meant business when she tipped because I don't think it's customary to tip in Europe.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Really?

[Kale Lowry]

No, you don't tip. Like I didn't know that they get gets. I think they get make like actual living wages. So like she probably just did the tip because of the throw up. But like, I mean sometimes your body does revolts against you. Like, what do you want from us?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Like throwing up on a table in a restaurant and asking for a bucket is really wild work. But like nothing said.

[Kale Lowry]

Why couldn't he get up and go to the bathroom or. But like have you ever been in a situation where you're about to throw up and there is. You cannot move. You are stunned still?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Stunned still?

[Kale Lowry]

No.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Well, Jackson used to do that when he first threw up for the first time ever, he threw up in the carpet and I almost lost my. But like he didn't know. He was like, what's that like? Because he didn't know what throw up was. And I'm like, you need to learn how to make it to the toilet. Like there's a reason that there's a toilet and we don't throw up on carpet. So now when he gets sick, I'm like, I'm not doing all of this. Like I'm putting a blow up mattress or a sleeping bag in the bathroom floor and that's where you're sleeping.

[Kale Lowry]

When I was a kid and I would throw up, I had a hard time moving because I would be like stunned still kind of.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Did you get sick a lot as a kid?

[Kale Lowry]

Just a couple times that I remember. I do remember one time it was the apartment my mom got evicted out of and I got sick and I literally like it was the middle of the night and I was by myself and I literally like rolled over and just vomited everywhere.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

That's so crazy because one of my girlfriends said that her girls will like wake up in the middle of night if they've got like a stomach bug or something and then she'll find throw up in their bed in the morning. And I'm like, are we just immediately waking up and then all of a sudden it's just like projectile vomit.

[Kale Lowry]

That happened to me one time. Also one time I remember because my grandparents had a room for me at their house and I woke up in the middle of the night and I peed on the floor.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Have you ever gone to the bathroom in the middle of the night and the toilet, like, the top parts down and it's sit on it. You sit on it and then there's pee going everywhere.

[Kale Lowry]

That happened has happened more times, I would like to admit.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Okay, guys, well, we hope that you have a fantastic week and we'll talk to you soon.

[Kale Lowry]

Don't forget your tour tickets.

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