← Coffee Convos with Kail Lowry and Lindsie Chrisley
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The new year is here.
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Get back into an at home routine that you absolutely love and truly elevate your space. And I'm recommending Wayfair for this. You know how much Team Coffee Convos absolutely loves Wayfair. I just got myself some new bedding, some new towels for any guests that I'm having. If you have kids rooms that need a refresh, this is the best time. Also to spruce up home decor. Something I'm super big on, that I picked up a lot of at Wayfair is storage. I know that Kayl and Lindsay are working on this as well. I'm talking both indoor storage, outdoor storage, doesn't matter. It could be for outdoor furniture, your bathroom, they have absolutely everything that you need. Wayfair's huge selection of home decor items makes it easy to find exactly what's right for you. Wayfair's huge selection of home decor items and just items in general makes it easy to find exactly what is right for you. One of my favorite things is if you're on a budget, it is so, so easy to find things that you are looking for in the budget that you have in mind. You can get organized, refreshed and back on track this new year. For way less. Head to Wayfair.com right now to shop all things home. That's W a Y F A I R.com Wayfair Every style, every home.
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I hate gift giving and receiving.
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Receiving gifts is so weird. What do you say? Thank you.
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This is Coffee Convos with Kale Lowry and Lindsey Chrisley. I really want you to be in your feels. Kale.
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That does not interest me whatsoever.
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I feel very attacked by you. A spirited discussion about motherhood, friendship, family and life in the public eye. I'm just not with the fakery anymore.
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There's a fakery bakery around here.
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Here's Kaylin Lindsay. Good morning kitty cat.
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Good morning kitty cat. I am going through it today. Controversial Kale is back in 2026 within reason of course. So I hope everybody buckles up and gets a Safe vehicle for 2026 because I'm crashing the fuck out every day. All 365 days.
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Controversial kill never left. Like the group chat, never left the private text. Just publicly you did a little switch up and and I feel it coming.
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With that being said, happy fucking New year. And my word of the year is execution in all of my business goals.
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Wow, what a fantastic way to start. I have multiple words of the year. My first one is balance.
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Oh, that's a good one. That's a good one.
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Growth and peace.
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Oh, peace is a good one. I'm not coming with peace in 2026. So if you're looking for peaceful advice, don't find me.
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I just will not send you the text messages.
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You know what I loved, though, last night? The group text that I was put in with you and the conversation made my whole night like I went to bed giggling last night. And I really appreciate that. So thank you.
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That's me and David on 10 at all times.
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No luck. Said his name was Gavin.
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Gavin, I know, but like, where did Gavin come from?
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I don't know. But he was like, who's David? And then he goes, I thought his name was Gavin. And I'm like, what the. Do you even know about any of the people that I'm texting? And then you said something about sending them. I said, I'm gonna send Lux and Creed to you. And then what did Lux say to me? You said something about send them. I'll. You'll buy the flights or whatever.
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Yeah.
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And Lux, still to this day will ask me, when am I going to Lindsay's house? And I'm like, lindsay can't handle you. Okay. I can't even handle you.
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I feel like I could, though. I think you're very much underestimating me when it comes to that child because it's like a mini me.
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I. Lux is a very unique child, and he truly brings so much joy to my life. But big news is that when this episode will have aired, Creed will have lost his first tooth.
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Wait, how old is he?
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Five.
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Five? Yeah. And the tooth is just hanging on by a thread right now. And so when this episode airs, I just know that tooth will be coming out.
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Wait, so do you pull your kids teeth or you let them fall out?
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Lincoln has never let me pulled pull them. I don't think Elliot's ever let me pull them. Lux has let me pull almost every single one of his teeth out. I think his dad pulled one or two, and then I pull have pulled the rest. Creed asks me to pull his tooth every day, and I'm like, here's the thing. If I pull it right now and it hurts, you're never going to trust me again. So I would rather let it hang in there for a minute, get a little loose, or either fall out on its own or I can pull it out when it's super, super, super loose. But I never want him to not trust me.
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You know, I will tell you that I was so scared that Jackson was going to lose his first tooth at school, and I was going to be devastated. And I know it sounds so insane, like it's just a tooth, but devastated. And I have to tell you that I still have all of his teeth in my kitchen spice cabinet.
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Do you think you could have David Gavin maybe poke a hole in all of them and just make a tooth necklace?
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You went from making all of his toys into ornaments to now I'm going to be wearing around a tooth necklace?
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No, I just feel like we need to create purpose. You know what I mean? Like, everything needs a purpose. And if it doesn't have a purpose, it doesn't have a place. And so we could make use of said items.
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Wait, that's such a good thought for the New Year. Everything that doesn't have a purpose doesn't have a place, including people.
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Yeah, you read my mind. You read my mind.
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That is so. Wait, can we just talk about last night, how our group chat started? Because I was sitting, eating, and I said, you were up in Adam this morning. And he was like, can you spell that for me? And I said, yeah.
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80Am Somebody named Adam was always up really early. And that's where the phrase came from.
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That's where it came from. But why did I think for 36 years it was a man named Adam?
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Sort of like. And I've said this before, but I thought Alice in Wonderland was Alison A L, L, I S O, N. Wonderland. I thought Wonderland was her last name, but it's Alice in Wonderland.
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Wait, at what point did you realize that it was Alice in Wonderland?
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Within the last five years. So I was a big adult at that time. When I found out, it was probably two years ago. So I'm gonna go with in my 30s.
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Okay. I need to tell everyone for the new year, one thing that is, like, the most underrated thing in your house is water pressure.
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What? What are you talking about?
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Is water pressure? Okay, so let me tell you this story. So I'm trying to, like, revamp some stuff around here. And, I mean, my house is so new. But, you know, like, there's things when you buy a house that you just kind of, like, wear them for a little while, and you're like, okay, I need to do some new stuff. So in my shower, I have the waterfall, like, shower head. And then I've got the one coming out of the wall.
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Okay.
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Mm. So my hairstylist told me. She was like, you need to get filters, because I think that's what's messing with the color of your hair. So way back when and when I say way back when, six months ago, I get a filter and I put it on one of the shower heads. Well, make it make sense, because why would I wash my hair in both of the shower heads at different times, but I only put a filter on one? So I had no water pressure in the time out of one of the showerheads, I had no water pressure.
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Okay.
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And that was when I was broke up with David. And I was like, oh, just it. I'll use this other shower head, and when both of them break, then I'll call somebody to help.
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Well, I love that mentality. Honestly. It's like, you know what? We're not gonna pay the fee to get someone out here twice. We'll wait till they both break. Yeah, we love a good budget. You know what I mean?
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I'm a. I am, like, savvy. I'm making it work.
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Okay.
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Okay. So David comes over for the first time, we get back together, and he goes to take a shower, and he goes, what's going on, like, with this water? And I said, oh, I don't know. It's been like that for three months. And he goes, oh, well, you just need to change the, like, filter in the filter. And I go, oh, okay. Well, I don't know how to do that because you were the one that put, like, the filter up, so you need to be the one to change it. I go on Amazon, and I think that I'm ordering filter replacements. Right? Like the filter and the filter. No, I order a whole nother filter. So now both of my shower heads have said filter. Last night, I come home once we get out of our group chat, and I'm like, I need to take a shower, and I need to immediately watch Netflix. Please tell me why. I get in the shower and the fucking thing blows me away. Like, the water pressure is so hard, I'm like, I'm gonna get out and look like I've been pelted with a paintball gun.
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Yeah.
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I will tell you, when I took a shower this morning before this recording, that is the most underrated thing in a house. Like, if you have bad water pressure, find a husband. Find a man and tell him to, like, change your pressure. You know what I mean?
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Honestly, top tier advice for 20, 26. Truly top. Your advice.
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It change your water pressure if you're.
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Unhappy, if you want to lose weight, if you are trying to get fit, if you have children, find a husband and have them change your water filter. That's it. That's the solution. All 2026. If you are miserable or you are unhappy, change your water filter.
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Change it. Let me tell you something else stupid that I did. So last year we had like one snow day. So I decide, oh well, I'm going to turn on the fireplace and like it's going to be a cozy little event.
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Is it electric or is it like real gas? Gas.
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Okay, gas one. So it works last year. I go to turn it on for the first time this year. Because we're talking like, you know, 14 to 19 degrees right now.
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Yeah.
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Won't come on. And you just hear it clickety clack, clickety clack in there. And I'm like, nobody's touched this except me. So the only person that could have broken it would be me. So I contact Kristen and I'm like, hey, I need to like get a new fireplace or we need to call the builder. So builder comes out here this morning, meets me out here, comes in and he clicks the thing on the wall and he goes, yep, nothing wrong with your pilot light. Did anybody turn the gas off downstairs by chance? And I said, nope. Cuz the only person that would have done that would have been me. And I for sure didn't do that. Please tell me why this man. I have been trying to fix this thing for three weeks. This man comes in, fixes it in five minutes. The only thing he did was turn the switch on, off, on off. And all of a sudden it went.
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I'm terrified of the pilots in, in gas fireplaces. I don't know why, but at my old house in Middletown, we had two gas fireplaces at 2 or 3 and I was like, oh no, I want the pilot out. Like, I don't even want that thing going.
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Why? You feel like it's going to create a fire?
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Yeah, like I, the, the irrational fear of burning to death in a fire that I accidentally created is all consuming.
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Is your most irrational fear to die in like a fiery, like crash or like a house fire?
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No.
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You said no. My most irrational fear is drowning. Like, I feel like that would be the worst way to go out. Or a stabbing.
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Same, same. So I'm. My knives aren't out. If you come to my house, good luck finding them. If you are an intruder in my home, good luck finding my knives because they're hidden away so I never have to see them.
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I will tell you, another New Year's resolution for me is to make sure I only open packages with a box cutter.
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Why?
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Well, if you saw what my expensive knives looked like. So you know, like when you open a box from Amazon or something and like it'll come with tape sometimes.
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Mm.
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Well, I'll just, you know, take out a kitchen knife that cut steaks, open with and you know, go. And then it has remnants of shit all over it. So in 2026, I'm gonna only use a box cutter for my boxes or I'm not opening it.
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Okay. I do love that for you.
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Did you receive a gift? Another gift from PETA by chance?
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I just received one gift. I got some vegan cookies.
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Okay, same. But I'm going to show you what. I'm going to show you two things for 2026. This is. This is a big deal. Okay, My. My friends at Coffee Combos podcast. I'm turning this so you guys can see. Oh, that's not a good angle, is it? 2026. Organization and execution. Okay.
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Okay.
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This is all 365 days of the year laid out on one big map. So I started working on it this morning. When you're coming to Delaware? When I'm. Oh, when we're recording. So I'm working on this, and it's all 365 days in one view.
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Kale. I mean, like, I get it, but where is that going?
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It's going right here. Can you see me down here?
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Yeah, I can.
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It's going right here.
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Like, you're gonna get it framed.
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No, it's a dry erase situation. So I'm not gonna frame it. I'm just gonna use double sided tape. And then the second thing I wanted.
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To show you is this show and tell.
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This is show and tell. This is how we're starting the new year off. Okay? PETA. Shout out to PETA. They love us. They love coffee combos, and we love them. They sent me seven plushies for the children, I'm assuming. And so we got seven different ones, including a rat, which Creed and Lux will freaking love. The rat.
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Look at that.
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Coloring pages. Rabbit facts from PETA. So this is your sign to adopt. Don't shop.
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By the way, are you getting a bird in 2026?
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Yep, I am.
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Like, when? About.
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As soon as I have a Saturday free.
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Oh, that's when you're gonna go and adopt?
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Yep. Yep, I am.
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The first phone call.
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Oh, for sure. And then when you come to record here in Delaware, I'm gonna bring the.
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Bird and it's gonna just be walking around.
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Yeah. The mascot of Coffee Combo's podcast is a bird.
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Kristen said I better be there.
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First of all, it was her idea.
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Wait, did you see, like, the videos of the birds on Tick Tock and, like, outfits? They've got him with, like, little tiny hats, like, on top of their head. No, you haven't seen this. Okay, I'm gonna have to send you some videos. I'm like, yep, that's a baby shower gift.
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Shower gift.
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It's a.
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It's a bird shower gift.
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Oh, my God. Honestly, what the has Coffee Combos podcast become in 2025? We. We've been unhinged.
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I feel like 2025, quite frankly, was probably the most unhinged, unsafe, possible treacherous environment that I've ever lived in in my life. What is 2025. The year 2025 was, like, one of the worst years of my life.
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Okay. 2025 also was a dumpster fire for me. So I resonate with that really hard.
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It's just, like. I don't know, I feel like 2024 kind of just, like, so smoothly rolled into 2025 that I don't really have a gap. You know what I mean? It was just like, the. From 2024 just rolled straight into 2025, and there was. There was no break.
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Do you have any. I don't have any recollection of anything that occurred in 2024. Like, I don't know anything that occurred in 2024. And you know what? I thought about last night, and I wanted to ask you this. Isn't it so crazy how we all have, like, events that happen to us that we know the exact year that it happened? And then there are other things, like, mostly traumatizing or positive things that we remember. Like, I know for a fact I graduated 10, right? I graduated college in 2017. But then, like, I almost died in 2019. Like, very specific years. I have no recollection outside of the birth of my twins in 2023. I have no recollection of anything that happened in 2023, and I have no idea. Nothing that I can think of happened in 2024. But I know for a fact 2019 and 2025 were two of my most traumatizing years of my life.
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I wonder if it was just because you were parenting so many kids and maybe you just blacked out.
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Oh, I completely blacked out. I don't. You could not tell me something that happened. Like, if you, Kristen, Alessandra, anybody told me, hey, Kale, this happened to you in 2024, I would believe you, and I have no memory of it.
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Okay?
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So I have to tell you this story that I was trying to explain to David, like, how long we had been together. And I said, we got together in September of 2024. And he was like, yeah, but we can only really celebrate the amount of months that, like, we weren't broke up. And I was like, yeah, but wait, you told me that you were in love with me that entire time. So, like, all those months count?
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No, I would agree with you. I tend to agree. It's like, because if you're in love with me and we broke up, we're getting back together. So. So all those months count because. What are you going to say? So if you get together in September and you break up in December, September, October, November, December, that's four months. And then you break up in December and then you get back together in March. You just celebrate all of it. You don't celebrate the months that you were only. So what are you saying? That's our six month anniversary. Like monthiversary. Like that.
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I'm not doing that. Like number one, I'm not doing that. We started dating in September of 2024, and then we had a little hiatus between the last week of October until specifically Christmas day of last year. Okay.
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Okay.
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Then we ran it until October again.
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Right.
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Then we had like our stint, you know.
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Yeah.
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Like we just weren't vibing at that time. And then we got back together.
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Right. So you celebrate.
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Count.
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To me as your friend. David is always your boyfriend. Like, even if you're broken up like David and Lindsay. Do you know what I'm saying? And so for me, I just. Gavin. It's David Gavin. And you know what? You and David Gavin are always together. It doesn't matter if you're broken up. It's just one of those relationships. And that's okay. It really is okay.
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But like, honestly, getting together in September, I would never recommend that for anybody. Because if you do break up, your holidays are.
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I don't give a. About holidays.
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I know you don't, but like, I'm just, I'm like, you know what? I. I need to call him on Christmas Day. So that's what I did.
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And that happened in 2024.
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Yeah.
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Could you possibly remember anything that occurred to me in 2024?
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Yeah. Probably not going to talk about it, but yeah.
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Honestly, 2024, because the twins were born at the end of 2023. That entire first year of all babies lives, at least in my parenting experience, the first year is a blur. So that's why I don't remember because I had Rio, who was an infant when the twins were born, and then I had the twins first year. So it was basically like the triplets that whole year. I don't remember.
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I mean, but that makes sense. I think that having one baby. And you and I have talked about this, if I had one baby right now, it would take me the out.
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Take me the out.
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Three babies. Three babies. Like a triplet situation. Almost just go ahead and kill me.
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But it's so much fun now. Like yesterday I was in the kitchen and I was like, I just.
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People say that.
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Yeah. Like, I just like, I. They went to Elijah's and I was like, oh, I kind of miss them. Obviously they get on my nerves sometimes. There's three of them. Like, three of them at one time.
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But wait, can we talk about. Would you rather have three babies in diapers at the same time? Or it spread out like one gets out of a diaper, then you have another baby, and now you're doing diapers again. Like, what would you rather?
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That's a great question, because I've had both. And thinking back, like, for Elliot, I was like, all right. You know, he was already in preschool when I had Lincoln. And then Lincoln, I said, you have to give up these diapers because the new baby is coming. And he was like, okay. And so he gave them up. And then I think I'd rather have neither.
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Well, babies have to wear diapers. So, like, how are you going to have them without the diapers?
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Because it doesn't really make it like, a shitty diaper is a shitty diaper is a shitty diaper. So whether you're changing one or three at a time, which happens often actually, over the weekend. Valley. Shit. Three times in one day. And I'm like, what is going on? So it was like, her three shitty diapers plus versus Rio and versus diapers. And who's to say they're gonna potty train at the same time? So I. I'd rather do the one and then they're out of diapers and then start another one. That's what I would rather.
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I would rather the opposite, I think.
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All at once.
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All at once. Because then when you get rid of the diapers, they're just all gone.
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I'm hoping. So I wait, you guys know. I wait to potty train until the last possible minute. It works out for us because we potty train and usually under a week. For Lincoln and Lux, it was literally two days. I wait until about three, but to me, it just is like, I'm not pulling my hair out for six months to potty train you. Potty training for six months is not actually potty training, in my opinion. And I know some people are going to feel attacked by that. But, like, why are we all going to lose our minds for six to eight months while you're potty training, when you can literally wait until they're ready and do it in under a week? I don't know. So I'm hoping that in 2026, I heard potty girls potty train a lot easier and sometimes sooner than boys. I might be able to potty train. Rio just turned three, so he'll be three and a half, and then Valley versus more. I don't want to Say he's more delayed, but I definitely don't see him potty training right away. So I'm gonna wait for him. But maybe we could get two of them potty trained in 2026.
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I will say I have heard that girls are way easier to potty train. And just from being an older sibling and seeing it, I guess in my sibling situation that wasn't necessarily true.
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What about Jackson and Chloe?
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I think they were. She's always been, like, advanced.
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Do you think it's a girl thing or do you think it's just every kid's different?
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I think every kid's just different. She's always felt like an adult to me. You know what I mean? Like, in comparison to Jackson, like, he was such a baby and, you know, she could carry on a full blown adult conversation with you, like, can clean her room, can get herself ready for school, like all of the things. And I just, you know, felt like I was waiting for my turn.
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Wait. But that's so interesting because even between Verse and Valley, them being twins, they're premature. Whatever. Like, Valley can have a full conversation. She's two and she can have a full conversation.
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And I do think that girls, like, kind of care more. Like, I remember when my sister was little, she used to have these days of the week panties that, like, had the days on the front.
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Yep, yep. Yeah.
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And she was decently stubborn to potty train. I mean, I feel like she was just like the normal age to be potty trained, but a bit stubborn. And so she would always come to me and be like, I peed my panties. And I would tell her, I would be like, oh, they're going to know because it's on a different day. Oh, no, because, you know, like, if you're supposed to be wearing Monday and it's Monday and now you're wearing Tuesday. Yeah.
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C
Oh, no.
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A
Yeah. All the paintings. Days of the week.
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C
That's so funny.
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A
I mean, it's like panties for Valley.
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C
Oh, my gosh. Yeah. Just to get. And she's. She's starting to, like, know when she has to go pee, but she's scared to sit on the toilet because the toilets at my house are not the same as at school. At school, they're nice and low and they're like, for little. For toddlers.
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A
Quince.com/coffee okay, so are we fans of like toddler toilets or not? I am not a fan.
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C
I have never like I think I've bought them in the past with the intention of using them. But I never actually used the little toilets where you sit them on the TV in front of the TV or something. I've only ever used real toilets because I'm not going from cleaning out cleaning shitty asses and diapers to cleaning out shitty baby toilets. No. For all that you can sit on the toilet and use like the little seat like handle seat thing. I'm not cleaning out tiny porta porta toilets.
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A
If you think that I am dumping, I'm not birds from that into the actual toilet. And then where am I washing that? Because it would be either the bathtub or a sink. I guess you could do it, but the amount of germs that would, like, be transpiring in that moment, like particles of. No, like, I'm. I'm not doing that. I was never a fan of those. But I do know somebody who was so adamant about potty training their child, and one of them potty trained so early that this person would put that little tiny toilet in their car. And if the bait. If the child. I don't want to say if it was a boy or a girl, but if the child was in the back seat and said that they had to go to the bathroom, would pull over on the side of the road, get that little potty out, and let it pee on the side of the road on the potty.
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C
I feel like you could just let them pee outside and it would serve the same purpose. I don't think that peeing in the potty on the side of the. Like, if they're telling you they have to go to the bathroom and they're not doing it in their pants and they do it on the side of the road, that makes more sense to me.
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A
How old was your. How old was the hardest child to potty train?
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C
Elliot and Creed.
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A
And what were they, like, three or four?
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C
Three and a half.
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A
Three.
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C
Three and a half.
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I think Jackson was three years old. And I will tell you, potty training was so easy because I did the same thing as you. Like, if you want to walk around shitting on yourself and you have no interest in a toilet, I'm not having this conversation with you right now, and I will continue buying Pampers. Okay. At the point that I know that you're now sneaking to your playroom to take a shit, now you're mindful enough to know that you need to get on a toilet. So now we've got a problem. So then that's when we potty trained.
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C
Agreed? I wholeheartedly agree with you. So if anyone's listening and has somebody that's going to be ready to potty train in 2026, just think about taking our advice on the potty training thing. I hate to see moms pulling their hair out for six to eight months potty training. And actually, the first time I heard that people were doing that, oh, it took me six months to potty. I was like, have you all lost your fucking minds?
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A
Yeah, they did. And then they lost it again when they were. They lost it at the point that they had the idea, and then they lost it again when they were doing it.
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C
Okay. Yeah.
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A
So I can't get behind that. Okay, first question is, how are we feeling going into the new year? We know. Hey, remember last year?
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B
Let's.
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A
Let's go back on memory lane.
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C
Yeah, I was going to say memory lane.
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A
Remember last year when I ghosted everybody for, like, probably three and a half or four weeks?
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C
And you were so pissed in 2025 or 2024?
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A
2024. Going into 2025.
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C
I don't remember, but I believe you.
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A
You were like, where have you been?
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C
Well, where were you? You just needed to have a little you time or what happened?
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A
Remember? I was, like, going through it. I didn't have Jackson on Christmas Day last year, had been through a breakup and was like, you know, we should probably get back together, but I'm a little too stubborn for that. So I'm gonna go to therapy on actual Christmas Day, and then we're gonna definitely get back together. I think I was just going through it, you know?
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C
Yeah. Yeah.
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A
And so I just, you know, enacted the dnd.
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C
You know what the funniest part of all of this is that when people think that I'm nuts and then they hear you, I feel seen and heard and. And nobody can call me crazy because it's both of us. You think I'm crazy, but this is normal. Like, we are having normal behavior.
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A
I just needed some, you know, time. Some R R. Some. No phone. Actually, I was having a conversation with somebody the other day, and I said, I'm gonna do well. I'm an attempt to do a challenge of where I turn my phone off for an entire week and see if it works. And they were like, that's never gonna work. I will tell you, I was not a bit uncomfortable with not answering a single text message in four weeks. And actually, you and I had that conversation, and you were like. So you just. What were you doing?
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C
Yeah, what were you doing? Did you read? You could read if you do remember.
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A
I wasn't a reader at that time.
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C
Well, you are now. And I'll tell you what. The second the babies went to their dads on Sunday, I was reading the rest of the day.
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A
Wait, so are y' all gonna do any, like, New Year's, like, cleaning or organizing?
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C
No. Yesterday, I spiraled out of control and realized that my house is no longer functional. And I know I've gone back and forth with that. And I basically called Kirsten and said that 2026 needs to be a year of execution because I need to break ground on my new house by the end of 2026. We are busting at the Seams. So, no, I'm not putting any more energy or money into my current home.
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A
So do you think that you will end up. I know there was a listener or probably multiple listeners at this point that had posted on the Facebook, like an update on your current house, your land, or if you would be willing to like find somewhere else. Is it still going to be the land and like building?
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C
Yeah, I don't, unfortunately, with having seven kids and needing a home office and, you know, needing. Very specific. Here's the thing, and I've talked about it before, is like the house that I live in now, we built in 20. I built it in 2022. It was, we use. I, I built it in a way that we would use every single square foot in the house. And when I tell you every single crevice of that house gets used, there is no already existing home that would be that way. When I lived in the 7,000 square foot house in Middletown, half of it didn't get used. It was not really functional to like, it wasn't tailored to our needs. So unfortunately we do have to build. We wouldn't be able to do unless I guess we could do like, like a complete Renault. Like if we bought an existing house and did a complete Renault. But at that point, why not just like, why not just custom build?
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A
Do you know, and I've always been told that it's a lot more expensive to fix than it is to build new. I don't know that is.
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C
There is no, there is some truth to that. It just depends where and what time, like when you're buying. Because at the time that I was building the house I'm in now, the price per square footage for a build was significantly more. I think it was double at the time of the square footage of a house that's already existing. So it would back then would have been cheaper to renovate versus building new. But. And one of the girls that I talked to that I used to know, she said, kale, this isn't going to be your first, this isn't going to be your last build. And I was like, yes, it is. I never want to do this again. And I really don't. But unfortunately things change quickly and we need adjustments. But I had spiraled out of control, called Kristen yesterday and I said, we need to get everything in order. 2025, 2026 needs to be the year of execution because I need to start building by the end of 2026. I say all this to say I'm going to be doing a lot of trial and error as far as money goes to see what works, what doesn't work. Cutting costs where I can budget is always a good year. Organization, execution. I think it is going to be a good. I think it's going to be a productive year.
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A
My goals before we come back to work, actually, when I say come back to work before I come to Delaware, is organization. Like, I have a lot of space in this house to be able to be fully organized, but have you ever felt like probably in your middle town house, have you ever felt like there's too much space so you don't really, like, know what to do with the space?
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C
Yep. And that's how I felt in Middletown.
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A
Yeah, that's. That's what I'm dealing with. I think there's going to be a lot of visits to, like, the Container Store in the first week of January, which Container Store loves to see me coming and the bank hates to see me going.
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C
Honestly, that is the exact same. And Rebecca said that to me. She was like, I would really love to go over, like, some of the goals that you want to do for your organization. And it's like, sounds good, but actually, no, because I'm not spending more money to just turn around and waste it.
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A
And build a new house to organize in the way that I want this house organized. And. And I have lived with a lot of stuff somewhat unorganized, Just kind of trying to get my feel around here and see, like, okay, well, I don't really like that there anymore, and I'm gonna move it, whatever. So I'm not gonna go and invest and a bunch of stuff from Container Store and then not use it. So it's. It costs a lot of money to, like, be organized in the way that I want to be organized with the aesthetic and the way that I want it to look like. Do I think that you can be organized, like, on a budget? 1,000%. But I like. Like the. I don't know, like, the. The baskets that are, like, all matching. And if it's in my pantry, for example, like, all those baskets need to be matching. And if it's in a closet and it's like school supplies and stuff like that, all that stuff needs to be matching.
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C
No, I agree. I've. I've worked with the neat method a bunch. It's under a new owner now, but the neat method. I've seen some other companies that have a similar situation where they do, like, the matching stuff and the aesthetic and they make it super functional. And I love that, like, having A team help. But, I mean, if we're talking about saving money, like, hiring them is really expensive.
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A
It's so expensive. And I really just, like, want to be able to do it myself on my own time, the way that I want it. Because even if you hire a company sometimes, like, what might work for them and they think will work for you might not necessarily work. And so I'm just gonna do it. I'm gonna do it all myself. Jackson's closet, kids closets, I feel like, are a disaster. He pulls stuff off of hangers, and I. I roll half of his stuff, and then half the stuff gets unrolled. So I'm just gonna do that. And another thing that I do in the new year, pretty. I think I've done it every year since, like, 2019. I always buy my towels and stuff from either Sam's or Costco. Oh, and I only have white towels in the house. And the bleach hates to see me coming because I bleach the hell out of sheets and towels. I always go through my linen closet at the beginning of the year every year, and I throw away, like, all of, like, my dingy towels.
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C
You know, like, if I'm gonna stop you right there, before you throw them out next time, donate them to a local animal shelter.
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A
Wait, what? They will take them?
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C
Yes.
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A
Oh, then I will drive it straight up to the animal shelter they'll put them in.
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C
One time I got into a fight, and I had to do community service, and So I did 100 hours of community service at an animal. An animal shelter, and they had, like, this is really gross and foul, but they had, like, hundreds of cats in, like, one big room.
- [41:27]
A
Oh, wow.
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C
And we used. Because you know how they have, like, the crates for, like, the animals they would. We would use the donations of towels and bedding for in the cat containers.
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A
Okay, well, I will take all of my towels there. I love a fresh white towel. And after a while, I mean, bleach doesn't even, you know, do the job anymore. So I do that every single year, so. So that's on my list.
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A
A trip to Mexico before we come back to work.
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C
Which when are you trying to do that?
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A
Trying to do that. The 30th through the 5th, December into January.
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C
I want to go.
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A
Me and Davey. Pavy.
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C
No, Gavin.
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A
Gavin. Well, me and Gavin.
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C
I want to go. Come. I want to go to Mexico with y'.
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A
All.
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B
Come.
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A
We'll be drinking mojitos on a little beach bed with our Kindles.
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C
Does he read those?
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A
No. Remember that time that I told you when we did our first Mexico trip together and I brought a book and he was like jealous of my book?
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C
I don't, I believe you, but I don't remember that.
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A
Yeah. So this was sometime, sometime within the last year I decided I was going to become a reader. And so I was like, I'm gonna, I'm gonna bring this book and when we go out and we're, you know, laying on that beach bed, I'm. I'm gonna get some pages in.
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C
Yeah.
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A
He was like, I really just don't like that idea. I said well, why not? We're just like laying there drinking little mojito here, a little tequila there, you know? He's like, no, because what if I want to talk?
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C
No. Literally no. Like, my poor laptop. Bring your laptop.
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A
Get on tick tock, get on reels. Like, take a nap.
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C
Do your day trading, whatever the your stocks are doing. Check your. Check that. But I'm not. We're not talking. If I bring my book. Do not talk to me.
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A
Wait, so when we got back together, actually recently, I asked him, I said, are you still, like, jealous of my Kindle? Like, this is something that I need to know. And he was like, no, I love that you read. Like, it's so good. I don't know what I was thinking whenever I said that. I just wanted to spend time with you. And I'm like, okay, well, you can spend time with me and watch my eyeballs. Scan this page.
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C
Absolutely.
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A
Okay, so the next question is, do either of you feel like there is pressure behind New Year's energy and does it feel for. Sometimes. And I do feel like a lot of times we have pressure around the holidays. I know you don't really care about the holidays, but, like, there's all this pressure to do all of these things in such a short amount of time. And then by the time it gets to the new year, it's like, I wish I had more time to prepare to like, enter this.
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C
I never feel pressure behind New Year energy at all. Like, I always have used it as. And like, I don't have a great memory. So maybe in the past I felt that way, but I don't remember ever feeling like there's pressure within the new year. I feel like there's pressure, a lot of pressure around me for Christmas because people always try to convince me of why I should do X, Y and Z, or why I should celebrate or why don't I just do this? Or why don't. Because I'm happy in my misery for Christmas. That's why. But I don't have. I don't feel pressure around New Year's. I always have used it as a time to try to execute whatever it is, whatever my hopes and dreams are for the New Year.
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A
I just wish that December in a perfect world could have two extra weeks. So it's like we get past the holiday part and then we would have the two extra weeks to like, truly prepare whatever our intentions are going into January.
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C
Agreed. I. Yeah, I agree with that because I do feel like as soon as a new year hits and then they go Back to school. It's almost like all of that just never happened. Do you get what I mean? And so it just feels like we didn't wait. We didn't have enough time. That's like, the only thing that I'm, like, feel like, okay, there's pressure for the time, but I never feel like New Year itself.
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A
I want to talk about my word balance for a second because I feel like it goes hand in hand with boundaries, too. Like, to have balance, I feel like you have to have proper boundaries. And sometimes I'm just, like, not the best at those.
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C
Same.
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A
I very much. I don't want to say I give into peer pressure, but, like, I very much given to just like, oh, yeah, I can do that. Or, like, yeah, I'll be there, or, yeah, I can grab lunch or, you know, yeah, I can meet you. No, I can't.
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C
Or. Or I can, but I don't want to.
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A
But I can't. Like, I literally will say to somebody, oh, yeah, I've got time to do that. No one good and damn. Well, I never did. And, like, I try to make it all fit and work, and it. I have to have, like, a better balance. Like, I really want to tighten up, like, my bedtime routine. Like I said, that's very important.
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C
I. I'm laughing, but, like, is this. Life in our 30s is, like, tightening up our. Like, our 2026 New Year's resolution is to tighten up our bedtime routine. Like, I kind of dig it. Like, it's not like we're like, oh, I want to talk about my baby daddy's less. I want to, you know, be less controversial. It's like, I want to tighten. And that was me making fun of myself, by the way, for you is like, I just need to tighten up my bedtime routine. Like, same. I need to get a handle on Lex and Creed because they're out of control.
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A
I just feel like a bedtime routine is so important for every day. And I would like to really structure Jackson going to bed more regularly. At the same time, it's kind of like a free for all over here. And Will, if you're listening, I know. So don't even send me a text or call my phone number. We do what we want at this house. And so if, you know, we're watching Home alone and it's 9:45 and we've already done everything else that we need to do, but it's like, still 9:45. I don't care. I don't care what I will say in 2026, I will be in bed and so will Jackson. I love that it's really important, like, to also have the alone time and like the separation to really, like, be one with yourself in your bed.
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C
That's.
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A
That's important. Like, I'm going to clean out my pajama drawer. Like, I have found several sets of pajamas from skims that I absolutely love that I need to buy like all the colorways that they possibly have. So I have a freshie every single night. And that's going to be part of my bedtime routine and like my skincare. And I need to make sure that I read for like 45 minutes before bed. And I want to have an actual watch list so that I can share it with everybody in 2026. Like an actual physical copy of a watch list of all the things that I'm watching.
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C
You should film, get unready with me and like do a bedtime routine video.
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A
Well, I don't have one right now.
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C
No, no. When you have, when you create it, film the get on ready with me and then my bedtime routine. You could do two separate videos and then I make. I'm creating this for you. This is me. My creative brain is saying that you should do those especially for TikTok so that you can also make money.
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A
Okay. It says each of you need to finish these sentences.
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C
Oh, my God, I'm scared.
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A
This year I want to stop.
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C
This year I want to stop over consuming. This year I want to stop overspending. This year I want to stop people pleasing. This year I want to stop not following through, especially with my kids. And by that I usually mean with discipline. If you do this, we are not going to the birthday party and actually follow through. If you do this, you are not getting a piece of candy, period. That's just like, I just made that up. But like, I want to follow through with my kids. But so often I give in to what's easier for. Okay, if your behavior is this way in the morning and then by the end of the day you're doing better. But I had said while you were your behavior was out of control that you weren't going to X, Y and Z event, I want to follow through. That's what I mean with my kids.
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A
I can very much relate to that.
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C
I think it's a like not to discredit having one child. But I would venture to guess it might be easier to follow through with one kid than it would for multiple. Like the struggles that I have with Lux and Creed are so different than what I had with Lincoln and Elliot. Like Lux and Creed truly are. They get away with murder. That's. And, and, and partially because I overcompensate, partially because I don't follow through with disciplining. And I'm starting to see the effects of that. And I don't want it to get worse as they become teenagers. So I really, really want to focus on that during 2026.
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A
It's actually a conversation that I just had with Will the day before yesterday. He said, you don't follow through with what you say you're gonna do. You're like, if you don't do this, then I'm taking the phone. And then the phone, like, never goes away. I, I definitely need to get better at doing that. Although I'm probably not just like full transparency. I'm probably not. This year I would like to stop saying fuck so much, but if everybody could leave me alone, I feel like it would fix itself.
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C
Like you feel like without the pressure of people telling you you need to stop, that you would be able to stop. Okay, I think that's fair.
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A
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C
David. David. Gavin.
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A
Yeah, okay.
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C
I mean, why? Why do you think that you do it in the first place?
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A
Well, I think that there's just, like, every situation has different pressures that are around them that could come from inside influences or outside influences. And so sometimes it just feels very overwhelming. And you can probably relate to this. In a time of living by yourself with your kids, it feels, like, easy, right? Like, just you and your kids.
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C
Yep.
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A
And sometimes I just feel so overwhelmed that. And it's a good overwhelmed to some degree. But it's like, what if I give up this and it doesn't work out? Then I've got to, like, redo all of the things that I had already done, you know?
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C
Yes, I completely resonate with that.
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And so that that's probably, like, the main reason why I do it. And it just kind of like. And. And David said this. Lindsay, you, like, when we break up, you think that's a hiatus. And at my big age, I'm like, no, we broke up. I'm like, no, that's not what happened. Like, I needed some time, I needed some space, I needed some thinking, I needed some sleeping, I needed some reading. And then I came to my senses, and then I'm good. You know what I mean?
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C
So what is the solution to that, though?
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I have no idea. I need to work on myself, definitely in therapy, for sure. Because I think if you have been through a divorce and then you have lived on your own with your child, it is very, very hard. It's like you want to get back into a place with somebody that you're like, okay, we can live together, and, like, we can do life together and we can do all of these things. But for me, I'm like, what if that doesn't work?
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C
And then what?
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And then I let the fear, like, dictate my next move. Instead of moving from a place like, I know this is right, and I know it's good, and I know I should be in this. I will just be so fearful.
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I would love to just know what your therapist would say about that. I also operate that way. I see where this is going based on past experiences, and I'm going to end this entire relationship before you can hurt me, before you can say something that's going to hurt my feelings, or you're going to break up with me. Before I break up with you, I will just end it really quick.
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I operate like that as well. And I think it is truly the fear of knowing that you've given somebody the ability to be able to hurt you to your core.
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Yes. Yes. Like, you now you you know too much you've seen too much, you've done. You know, all the ways to hurt me, and now I've given you that power and not regret it. But it's like, I recognize that I gave you that power. So now it's. Now I have to fix this before you can hurt me. Use my past to hurt me, basically.
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But I feel like true love is giving somebody the ability to be able to hurt you and trusting that they won't. Yeah, it's the trusting part. Yeah, I'm there, too. Okay, last sentence to complete. This year, I'm giving myself permission to.
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This year in 2026, I'm giving myself permission to say no to people guilt free.
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A
I'm giving myself permission to live freely, love that, like, whatever that looks like. I can't. I can't live with worrying about, like, what the public might think or what a friend might think or what somebody's saying. But, like, no, I'm just gonna live freely, like who I am and make the choices that I feel like are in the best interest of myself and my household.
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C
Agreed. And I love that.
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We love that for each other. Look at us. We're just like little twinsies. And on that note, we have foul play.
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C
All right, here I go. Hi, Kale, Lindsay, and Kitty gang. I never thought I would have a foul play to share, but as soon as it happened, I knew I had to share multiple pieces to the story. So follow the bouncing ball. I'm currently on Ozempic, so I already struggle with the side effects of that, mainly constipation and also hair loss. Sometimes when I travel, I also get constipation from the change in elevation levels. That definitely happened. Has that happened to you?
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No.
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If I fly, I don't for, like, four days.
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Wait, okay, so that's so interesting that you say that, because I was talking to Kristen not too long ago, and I said, I feel constipated, but I feel like I only get constipated if I know that I'm busy and I need to poop so bad, but I'm like, I'm too busy to poop. So I'm, you know, just doing all the things, and then by the time I have time to go poop, then I can't because it's, like, all, like, compact. Yeah, yeah.
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No, I also feel the same, but sometimes it just. I myself so. Well, at the end of August, I flew to Florida for a birthday celebration and minimally used the restroom for the four days we were there. We flew home On a Tuesday, and I had surgery on Thursday two days later, which can also cause constipation due to the pain meds. I was on the struggle bus, majorly after surgery with stomach pain because I hadn't gone to the restroom day after surgery. My nurse sister suggested a stool softener. So meds were ordered and taken. Still no relief. So two days of stool softener and a laxative and no success. So I finally said, fuck it, and I put a glove on and started to pull the hard poop out, all while praying the glove didn't tear. As a habitual nail salon girly, a little more backstory. I had surgery on my right wrist, which is my dominant hand, and I had a cast on it, so I had to use my left hand. I had to do this several times over a day or two to finally get relief. And thank you, poop gods. My poop returned somewhat normal with a side of liquid. It was not a fun experience pulling poop out of my own ass, but it had to be done. Some might ask why I didn't use an enema. Well, your guess is as good as mine. Thank you for taking the time to read my story, and I love listening to y' all talk. Signed poop puller.
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A
Wait a second. I didn't know that you could pull poop out of your ass.
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C
You didn't know that?
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A
No.
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C
Becky disempacks herself once a month.
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A
Wait, what?
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C
Yeah. How?
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Becky.
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C
Let me ask her. Hold on.
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A
There is no way that's real.
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C
No, she literally. I'm going to call her right now.
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A
But what if you're not impacted, but.
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C
You are, like, at the point that you're pulling hard poop out one by one? That happened to me one time.
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A
No, I'm saying, like, you're saying Becky does it on a schedule.
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C
Yeah, she's not answering. But after I had my breast reduction surgery, I was. I didn't. I shit you not. I probably could have died. I didn't shit for 12 days.
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Did you ever think about.
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C
I was this close to dis Impacting myself.
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A
But how do you do that? You just.
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C
I. I was gonna have Becky explain it. Becky was the one that told me to put on a glove and pull the out, but I'd rather go to the er. Like, it was bad. Like, me and Sterling were crying in the bathroom because I didn't know what to do. Oh, she's calling me. Hold on. Okay. Hello? Are you okay? Yeah, I'm fine. Do you still disempact yourself regularly? Not.
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A
No.
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E
Actually, I haven't had to in a little bit.
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C
So, like, could you describe the process to me?
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E
Yeah, you have to dis impact yourself.
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C
Yeah. No, no, no. What? No, I don't have to disinb myself. I don't have to disinback myself. Somebody wrote in to Coffee Commas podcast talking about how she had to disempact herself. And Lindsay said on.
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E
Are you recording right now?
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C
Yeah.
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A
What the.
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C
Said that you never knew that you could do that. And I said, I'm pretty sure Becky does it regularly. And I almost had to do it after my breast reduction. But, like, could you tell, like, you put a glove on?
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E
I was fully prepared to, like, just give you really good friend advice.
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C
Can you please do it, though?
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E
Yeah. So you put a glove on.
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C
Okay.
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E
Because you, like, I don't like getting poop on my hands, you know?
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C
Right. Of course not.
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E
And so sometimes all it takes, and you probably don't even really need gloves this. But I would do it anyway just in case. You slip your hand, push, like the area between your V and your butt.
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C
Okay.
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E
And it'll. It'll like, kind of loosen things up. And you do it from the other side too. So, like around it before even going in sometimes that'll, like, push the hard clump there to a head and it'll just come out. But most of the time you have to just stick a finger in and. And like, start, like, pulling it in piece by piece out.
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C
That's what she said in the foul play. That's what she said. She said she was like, super constipated. She had a pull it out, like, piece by piece. But it's. It's a struggle for a lot of people. And so I was like, let me see what. What Becky has to say.
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E
Literally, you can't believe that you didn't start this call with, hey, I'm recording.
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C
Hey, hey, I'm recording. If I told you that, you weren't going to tell me the truth.
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E
That feel set up? Hi, Lindsay. I miss you so much.
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A
Hi. Miss you too.
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C
Thank you for the story time. I really appreciate it.
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A
I just can't believe that Becky does that.
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C
Love you. Bye. Bye.
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A
Like, isn't that called your gooch?
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C
I call it a taint.
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A
Well, I think it is a taint on a woman and it's a gooch on a man, I think.
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C
Okay, so. So it's.
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A
Some people call it a nacho. Like, nacho ass. Nacho balls.
- [64:56]
C
I've never heard that a day in my life.
- [64:59]
A
Well, I know somebody who told me it and I'm not telling you who told me it.
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C
Type it in the chat.
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A
His name sounds like odd.
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C
Oh, okay. On that note, thank you so much for listening.
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A
Thank you guys so much for listening and supporting our show. Please subscribe and review on the Apple Podcast app, follow and rate on Spotify, or listen wherever you get your pods. For our latest merch, visit coffeeconvo podcast.com to shop. Full video episodes are available on Kale's patreon@patreon.com Kalelory don't forget to follow us on Instagram and join our Facebook group to connect with us and our community. We hope you guys have a fantastic new year and we can't wait to talk soon.
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See ya.
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