Coffee Convos Podcast with Kail Lowry & Lindsie Chrisley

Episode: Pilates Era, 50 Cent Diddy Beef & Velcro Kids

Date: December 4, 2025
Host: PodcastOne

Episode Overview

This episode of Coffee Convos dives into Kail and Lindsie’s latest life updates—including Lindsie’s mission to become a Pilates instructor, real talk on raising "Velcro kids" (clingy children), and a heated, nuanced discussion about 50 Cent’s upcoming docu-series on Diddy and the broader ethics of documentary storytelling. As always, the two blend humor, vulnerability, and strong opinions on motherhood, pop culture, and their own evolving lives.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Life Update: Tears, Homeownership, and New Routines

• Opening Vibes:

  • Lindsie admits to crying all morning after a powers-out mishap at home, musing, “I should not be a homeowner. I should live in an apartment. Breakups are really hard.” (02:42)
  • Kail reassures her: “Honestly, I think you look beautiful.” (03:02)

• Shopping & Mood:

  • Lindsie’s lighthearted tale of buying cheap, possibly expired eye gels at TJ Maxx reveals the levity and camaraderie between the two.
  • Mercury in retrograde and seasonal moodiness are cited as reasons for their collective funk.

2. “Pilates Era”: Lindsie’s Next Big Move

• Lindsie’s Announcement:

  • “I’ve decided that I want to become a Pilates instructor.” (03:41)
  • Kail’s supportive but clueless: “Can you, can we do a workout? Because I don’t even know what Pilates is. Like, I could not tell you the first thing about Pilates.” (03:45)

• Breakdown of Pilates Types:

  • Difference between Mat and Reformer Pilates explained.
  • “If you want to do Pilates on a Reformer with your feet in the straps... I can’t wait to get on a Reformer. Like, me getting on a Reformer is like the equivalent of a good lay.” (Lindsie, 07:13)

• Certification Details:

  • Lindsie to get certified at Club Pilates: “It’s six weekends, 66 hours, and then you have to sit for, like, test and stuff.” (06:28)
  • Kail asks about fitness levels, and Lindsie assures her anyone can start.

• Notable Moment:

  • Kail jokes about launching Pilates at “Killer Sports,” pondering “Should I offer Pilates at Killer Sports? Because yes, everyone talks about Pilates, but we don’t have anywhere to do Pilates.” (04:46)

3. Bird Adoptions and Book Talk

• Pet Adventures:

  • Kail nearly adopted a bird as an unofficial podcast mascot but was thwarted by the flu.
  • The two discuss that many birds outlive their owners and get included in wills—“Because they’ll typically outlive the owners.” (Kail, 10:17)
  • Lindsie notes, “It’s comforting to know they’re rehomed after being loved.”

• Book Club Corner:

  • Light debate over which Abby Jimenez novel featured a foul-mouthed bird.
  • Lindsie’s a “Christmas girly,” and Kail recommends Megan Quinn’s “Merry Christmas, You Filthy Animal.” (11:40)

4. Holiday Struggles & Co-Parenting Realities

• Complicated Holidays:

  • Deep discussion about why Kail struggles with Christmas, citing childhood trauma and the chaos of custody arrangements:
    • “Me not doing it really started with all the dads in the custody... there was no way to split the holiday in half.” (15:21)
    • “I don’t have them for the whole... December 20th all the way through the new year, I don't have them.” (16:42)

• Lindsie shares her flexible approach:

  • “For us we really don't go off [the custody schedule] except for the days we’re in school... If shit comes up... we'll just do it.” (17:16)

5. 50 Cent vs. Diddy & The Ethics of Documentaries

• The Docu-Series Debate:

  • Kail: “I did see all kinds of, like, AI generated pictures and stuff of Diddy in prison. And I shouldn't laugh, but I was laughing because it was just like, what in the world?” (18:17)
  • Recap of the decades-long feud, including 50 Cent’s 2006 diss track. Kail brings up past rumors about Diddy and the deaths of Biggie and Tupac.

• Key Quote—Diddy’s Team Statement:

  • “For Netflix to hand his story to someone who has publicly attacked him for decades feels to Mr. Combs like an unnecessary and deeply personal affront.” (22:29)

• Ethical Quandaries:

  • Kail takes a hard stance: “When you're charged for the crimes that Diddy was charged and unfortunately not convicted for all of them, I don't give a fuck what amount of work you've put into any fucking thing. You don't deserve to see the light of day outside of prison.” (21:47)

  • Lindsie, reflecting on her own experience with unwanted documentaries, counters:

    • “If you’re going to tell that story, then also let me tell my side of the story.” (26:05)
    • Both agree that including the subject—or at least making the offer—is important for fairness.

• Pop Culture Sidebar:

  • Quick detour about “Tiger King” Joe Exotic: “He keeps popping up on my timeline... I don't even know why. Why is he in prison still?” (Kail, 33:01)

6. True Crime Recap (Deadly Marriage Case)

• Synopsis:

  • The duo summarizes a true crime documentary about a deadly domestic dispute involving a husband, ex-nanny-turned-wife, and her FBI agent father.
  • Both dissect self-defense claims, the presence of a stray brick in the master bedroom, and the impact of prior domestic violence and trauma.

• Parenting POV:

  • Lindsie and Kail debate if/when they’d allow a new spouse to adopt their child, noting deeply personal circumstances and loyalty to the deceased parent.
    • “I think it really does depend on the circumstances... I would feel like that would be betraying his dad upon his death.” (Lindsie, 39:07; Kail agrees.)

7. “Velcro Kids”: Parenting the Clingy Child

• Personal Stories:

  • Both admit to raising Velcro kids (clingy children), sharing stories of being followed everywhere—even the bathroom.
    • “Jackson loves to snuggle with me all the time. He's up my ass 24/7.” (Lindsie, 44:36)
  • “When I work from home, I have to hold my pee all day until I know that the kids are napping.” (Kail, 45:28)

• Why Are Kids So Clingy?

  • Kail argues it’s human nature rather than over-parenting:
    • “Boomer generation is like, don't hold that baby, you’re gonna spoil it... No, that's literally how they feel secure.” (47:06)

• On Out-Touch Overwhelm:

  • Lindsie: “Do you feel like you get out touched? Jackson was constantly just... attached to the hip, touching my face…”
  • Kail: “If you leave me alone and then come back in an hour, I’ll be fine. But like in this moment I’m so overwhelmed.” (50:06)

• Twin Talk:

  • Kail shares the ups and downs of having twins:
    • “It’s hard... but it is so cool to just like watch them… holding both of them, especially when I'm lopsided. Valley is so much heavier than Verse.” (52:14)

8. Listener Story: Foul Play Segment

• Sleep-Deprived Parenting:

  • Listener describes the chaos of newborn diaper changes—baby pees on himself and dad, then poops on mom—culminating in “both needing a diaper change.”
  • Kail: “I honestly think that people downplay the level of exhaustion that comes with the first six months of motherhood.” (54:16)

• Diaper Hack Revelation:

  • Pro tip: Place the clean diaper under the baby before removing the old one to avoid accidents mid-change.
  • Kail admits she’d never heard of this before: “No, I never did that before... I'm gonna take a picture of what you mean…” (55:57)

Memorable Quotes & Moments

• On Supporting Each Other:

  • Kail to Lindsie: “Honestly, I think you look beautiful.” (03:02)

• On Pilates:

  • Lindsie: “Me getting on a Reformer is like the equivalent of a good lay.” (07:13)

• On the Diddy Docuseries:

  • Kail: “I don’t care what work you put in. When you have disrupted and truly just ruined the lives of so many people. I don’t feel bad for you.” (21:47)

• On Velcro Kids:

  • Lindsie: “Jackson loves to snuggle with me all the time. He's up my ass 24/7... Can't take a sh*t in peace.” (44:36)
  • Kail: “If I’m sitting down... don’t let them touch. It's two separate Velcro children.” (46:31)

• On Twin Life:

  • Kail: “If you were to ever have another child, I would wish twins on you because it is so... It's so cool.” (51:50)

Timestamps for Key Segments

• Pilates Announcement & Discussion: 03:39 – 07:30
• Bird Adoption Chat: 07:47 – 11:37
• Christmas & Co-Parenting Struggles: 14:09 – 17:43
• 50 Cent vs. Diddy Docuseries: 18:08 – 26:14
• True Crime Recap: 33:35 – 41:10
• Velcro Kids Segment: 44:09 – 52:27
• Listener Foul Play Story (Diaper Disaster): 53:39 – 56:18

Recap Tone & Final Thoughts

This episode balances lighthearted storytelling with raw, emotional candor. Kail and Lindsie peel back the realities of single parenting, evolving ambitions, and pop culture controversies—with lots of laughter and empathy along the way. Their willingness to dissect their own shortcomings and support each other makes for relatable, binge-worthy listening—especially for moms navigating similar chaos.

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