Q1 Mental Breakdowns & Bad Decisions

Summary

Coffee Convos with Kail Lowry and Lindsie Chrisley

Episode: Q1 Mental Breakdowns & Bad Decisions
Date: April 9, 2026

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Overview

In this lively and candid episode, Kail Lowry and Lindsie Chrisley dive deep into the chaos and comedy of motherhood, co-parenting adventures, life on tour, mental health challenges, and the realities of being in the public eye. True to their brand, they balance vulnerable moments, ongoing rants, and hilarious storytelling with practical advice and brutally honest takes on friendship, family dynamics, and internet drama. The hosts also discuss preparations for their Fatherless Behavior tour, their Webby Award nomination, and the enduring power (and toxicity) of online speculation. The latter half becomes a rapid-fire catch-up on travel gripes, relationship theories, and bodily mishaps, all wrapped up in their signature unfiltered style.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Mental Health & "Q1 Breakdown"

• Kail opens up about an emotional night and refers to her recent experience as her "first quarter mental breakdown" (03:12), setting a relatable and honest tone.
  • Quote: "I was crying last night a lot. So I had my, my first quarter mental breakdown — Q1, if you will. Mental breakdown. And now we're in. We're officially in Q2." (03:12, Kail)
• Both hosts agree life feels "really hard right now." (20:56-21:08)
  • Quote: "Life's just really hard right now." (20:56, Lindsie)

2. Moms-on-the-Go: Snafus, Schedules, and Cop Drama

• Lindsie recounts a chaotic morning involving lost track of time, hyper-fixation on coffee, and an unexpected encounter with a police officer over a missed stop sign at Dunkin Donuts (04:41-07:43).
  • Quote: "I said, to be perfectly honest with you, I didn’t see it. And it wouldn’t have changed the narrative whether you were there or not, because I never saw the Stop sign." (06:09, Lindsie)
• The hosts riff on cop stereotypes ("cops just, like, drink coffee and eat donuts all day") and fantasize about wearing police vests on tour for comedic effect (05:49-08:57).

3. Co-Parenting: Communication & Therapy

• Lindsie shares a post-argument detente with her ex-husband, describing both as "good ghosters" and analyzing their avoidant tendencies with the help of therapy (09:11-10:38).
  • Quote: "We're good ghosters of each other. Actually talked about that in therapy. Like, is that what happened to my marriage? Because he is an absolute avoidant and I somewhat am an avoidant in some ways as well." (09:18, Lindsie)
• They celebrate the rare, validating moment of hearing "you’re right" from an ex (11:34).

4. Tour Prep: Logistics, Stress, and Support

• Kail and Lindsie trade tips (and jokes) about travel for the upcoming Fatherless Behavior Tour, including the eternal debate: drive or fly? (17:23-18:50)
  • Quote: "When I'm by myself, I'm flying regardless...with kids, if it is like a six hour car ride or under, I'm absolutely taking my car." (17:48, Lindsie)
• They discuss renting cars vs. using Uber, "girl math" on splitting costs, and share anxiety about booking flights last-minute (22:04-22:39).
• The challenges of touring, venue sizes, and the fear of low ticket sales are explored with self-deprecating humor.
  • Quote: "Imagine we walk in there and there's 20 people..." (38:57, Kail)
  • "If anything, over 20 tickets...I'm already doing better than them." (46:36, Kail)

5. Internet Trolls, Friendship Theories & Delusions

• Both address online rumors about their dynamic, referencing Reddit threads and rumors of their "supposed hatred" for one another (57:31-58:10). They argue their personalities would never allow them to keep up a fake friendship for eight years.
  • Quote: "There's like Reddit threads and stuff that people think that we actually hate each other, but that's kind of where this is all stemming from." (57:31, Kail)
• They reveal their coping mechanisms for the emotional rollercoaster of public scrutiny: a blend of radical honesty, self-delusion, and positive self-talk.
  • Quote: "At the point that I'm already living in a state of delusion...I would just rather stay in that state of delusion." (40:38, Lindsie)
  • "I'm the toxic friend that's like, yeah, be positive. Yeah, it's gonna be great." (41:52, Kail)

6. Live Show Antics & Fan Engagement

• Real talk about decompressing after shows, planning meet-and-greets, and hilarious backstage rituals (like "flipping Lindsay upside down" or singing "Dick Down in Dallas" on stage) (36:28-50:58).
  • Quote: "Honestly, we need Becky to. Also any shows that you and Becky are going to be at, we need to bring Becky in. She can be our backup dancer because I don’t dance." (50:58, Kail)
• Moments of fan connection, such as messages about the podcast being a post-work "decompress," are celebrated and gently poked fun at. (35:50-36:28)

7. Parenting Realness & Bodily Mishaps

• Sharing misadventures like mysterious traffic tickets, license mishaps, and the woes of being "riding dirty unbeknownst to you" (30:27-33:53). Talk shifts to extreme period troubles: both candidly admit to using diapers and dealing with menstrual product fails.
  • Quote: "[On a menstrual cup] In theory, the process is simple. In practice, it's more like diffusing a bomb. Except the bomb is full of blood in a tiny stall..." (76:19, Listener Foul Play submission)
  • "So I just struggle with, yeah, it’s horrible. It’s horrendous." (79:07, Kail)

8. Cruises: Fears, Appeals, and Doctor Drama

• Kail and Lindsie analyze the pros and cons of cruises vs. resorts, referencing true crime cruise disappearances (Amy Lynn Bradley’s case), budgeting, and the concept of people living on cruises after retirement (69:43-76:16).
• Lindsie awkwardly bonds with her gynecologist (who's neighbors with her ex-husband) while discussing Disney cruises (75:09).

9. Big Ideas: The Baby Dads Panel

• Lindsie pitches a "dream panel"—a public, gloves-off Q&A with all their respective baby dads, performed live and possibly with a live audience for transparency and trolling accountability (61:39-66:45).
  • Quote: "I'm thinking it looks like...a stage with a bunch of chairs, because obviously there's a bunch of men, right? They all have a mic, and you and I are going to be the hosts of this, asking them questions, and they're basically going to be trolling us, so we've got to have like tough skin." (62:19, Lindsie)

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Notable Quotes & Moments by Timestamp

• 03:12 – Kail: "I was crying last night a lot. So I had my, my first quarter mental breakdown — Q1, if you will. Mental breakdown. And now we're in. We're officially in Q2."
• 06:09 – Lindsie: "I said, to be perfectly honest with you, I didn’t see it. And it wouldn’t have changed the narrative whether you were there or not, because I never saw the Stop sign."
• 09:18 – Lindsie: "We're good ghosters of each other. Actually talked about that in therapy...He is an absolute avoidant and I somewhat am an avoidant in some ways as well."
• 11:34 – Lindsie: "Do you know how good it feels to hear 'you’re right'...like the best win of life."
• 20:56 – Lindsie: "Life’s just really hard right now."
• 21:02 – Kail: "No, you are not kidding."
• 33:53 – Lindsie: "The fact that we have license suspension, have ran stop signs...this is insane. We need to go to driving school."
• 36:28 – Kail: "Our worlds are…must be more chaotic for them to decompress with us, because we are crazy."
• 38:57 – Kail: "Imagine we walk in there and there's 20 people..."
• 40:38 – Lindsie: "At the point that I'm already living in a state of delusion for, like, however many years, I would just rather stay in that state of delusion."
• 41:52 – Kail: "I think I’m the toxic friend that’s like, yeah, be positive. Yeah, it’s gonna be great."
• 46:36 – Kail: "If anything, over 20 tickets...I’m already doing better than them."
• 50:58 – Kail: "Honestly, we need Becky to. Also any shows that you and Becky are going to be at, we need to bring Becky in. She can be our backup dancer because I don’t dance."
• 57:31 – Kail: "There’s like Reddit threads and stuff that people think that we actually hate each other, but that's kind of where this is all stemming from."
• 61:39 – Lindsie: "I feel like I still want to do it. And I’ll agree to pay them."
• 76:19 – Listener Foul Play Submission: "Do not attempt to remove a menstrual cup in a public bathroom unless you're emotionally prepared for the consequences...it’s more like diffusing a bomb."
• 79:07 – Kail: "Periods are messy and gross for me...I just struggle with, yeah, it’s horrible. It’s horrendous."

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Highlighted Segments & Timestamps

• 03:09 – 08:57: Banter on bad mornings, running into a cop, and coffee fueled drama.
• 09:04 – 13:12: Co-parenting misadventures and how therapy impacts their approach.
• 17:23 – 24:24: Travel logistics: the car vs. flight conundrum, "girl math", and rental car rants.
• 36:28 – 38:57: Reflection on decompressing after live shows and internalizing fan feedback.
• 41:07 – 42:04: Delusion as a coping mechanism; reframing negativity in the face of online hate.
• 46:36 – 48:31: Public perception, self-doubt, and how ticket sales (and hate) motivate them.
• 57:31 – 58:49: Debunking internet rumors about their friendship, sharing laugh-out-loud personal anecdotes about public speculation.
• 61:39 – 66:45: Dreaming up a Live Baby Dads Panel – wild, bold, and transparent.
• 76:19 – 80:12: Bodily mishaps: Foul play stories, menstrual cup nightmares, and why adult diapers are sometimes a must.

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Closing Thoughts

This episode is a prime example of Kail and Lindsie's bond—raw, witty, and unafraid to admit to their own messiness. Whether sharing wins (Webby nomination), confessing breakdowns, or plotting their next bold live show move, they fuse humor and authenticity, reminding listeners that even in chaos, community (and a good vent session) makes it manageable. Their willingness to discuss everything from travel failings and co-parenting woes to bodily realities and online rumors makes for an episode that is equally cathartic, hilarious, and oddly comforting.

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i hate gift giving and receiving.

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Receiving gifts is so weird. What do you say? Thank you.

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This is Coffee Convos with Kale Lowry and Lindsay Chrisley. I really want you to be in your feels.

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Kale, that does not interest me whatsoever.

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I feel very attacked by you. A spirited discussion about motherhood, friendship, family and life in the public eye. I'm just not with the fakery anymore.

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There's a fakery bakery around here.

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Here's Kaylin Lindsay. Never been more ready for a podcast in my life.

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Well, you look hot. You look freaking. Of course, the day that I look like a troll, you know, sometimes you

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show up looking like a snack and I look diabolical and then we just switch off.

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Honestly, every day can't be our best day. But we can try.

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Welcome to Coffee Convo's podcast. How are we doing?

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We're hanging in there for dear life. I was crying last night a lot. So I had my, my first quarter mental breakdown Q1, if you will. Mental breakdown. And now we're in. We're officially in Q2. So how are you?

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Well, I have so much to like catch you up on and like follow up stuff, but this morning, I should have known this morning at 7:51 when I thought it was 8:51 that the day was not going to be the day that I had planned for. Have you ever like woken up in the morning and you're like, I overslept something and I don't know how that happened and I set my alarm and here we are.

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Yes.

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Okay. So I actually didn't need to be up until 8 o' clock this morning. So I was like, you know what? I, you know, unpacked my butcher box the other day and I was like, I am going to make chicken. Because fun fact about me, I have not made chicken in like a year.

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I know. You're like a red me only girly red me only.

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And so I was like, you know what? I got chicken in my butcher box. I think it was like the free item or whatever, like the free item for the year. And I was like, okay, I'm gonna like really do a good dinner and I'm gonna take a good hot girl shower, get in the bed early and try to find a crime to watch. A crime that I want to commit, but I can't. So I'm gonna watch somebody else do it. Fair.

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Fair enough.

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Then 7:51 rolls around and I pop up out the bed, like, it was a hop. And I was like, I have overslept. My whole day's like, I will never get to where I need to be going on time. This is terrible. Only to get to my bathroom to realize that it was an hour earlier than what I was supposed to be up. So I was like, okay, this is going to be a good one. So go to my hair appointment. We have lots of girl chats. And then I'm like, you know what? I have, like, a spare five minutes. I'm gonna, like, like, pull into that Dunkin Donuts right there. And I'm about to get me a coffee because I never really drink coffee hardly anymore, but I had one yesterday. So then I get, like, on a hyper fixation moment where if I had have something on one day, then I probably needed the next. So I go to the Dunkin Donuts by my house. I'm just wheeling around, whipping that little car around, and I see a cop, like, towards the Dunkin Donuts. And I'm like, okay, that kind of, like, makes sense. And it makes sense for a cop

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to be by the Dunkin Donuts.

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You haven't heard? It's like, cops just, like, drink coffee and eat donuts all day. Like, I know it's not true, but I'm like, okay.

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Like, I was going where, like, Dunkin Donuts is, like, sketchy, so they needed a cop, but I'm. I went in a completely wrong direction, so. Got it now.

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So I get up to, like, the little, like, order thing where they have, like, that big, like, billboard of all the items.

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Yeah.

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And I just order my coffee and I'm like, this is gonna be good. Like, I'm gonna be on time. I'm fiddle around in my purse trying to find my credit card, and I'm like, dear God, like, I hope I didn't leave that somewhere. I look up and the cops in there, like, with his hands, like, on his vest like this at the little order thing, and I roll down the window and I go, can I help you? He goes, do you know what a stop sign is? Oh, I said, excuse me? He said, do you know what a stop sign is? I said, yeah. Why? He goes, well, you just ran one. I said, oh, my God. Like, I didn't know. And he goes, and that's really bold to do that right in front of a cop. I said, to be perfectly honest with you, I didn't see it. And it wouldn't have changed the narrative whether you were there or not, because I never saw the Stop sign.

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Truly. Like, he's acting like you did it on purpose with malicious intent and.

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And with the expectation that I'm going to like slam on brakes and actually stop at this said stop sign.

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Because he's there and you're like, no, I never saw it. And I don't have malicious intent. And even if I did see it and I didn't stop, I wouldn't give a. If you were here, the fact that he was out of his car so he couldn't have pulled you over for it. He was just mad that you basically got away with it.

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Correct. And I said, I do have somewhere that I need to be at one, so if I'm gonna get a ticket, like, can you just go ahead and give it to me? And he was like, I'm not wasting my time, but you wasted your time to come over here.

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Was he hot?

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No. Oh, no. He just looked like a little. Well, to some people he would be hot because it's like not necessarily cleaned up.

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Beard look like scruff, like the five o' clock shadow. Like a little lived in, rough around the edges. Oh, he probably would have been hot.

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To me, he looked very lived in. And I'm just like, can we just like get this going? Because I'm just trying to get my coffee and I'm trying to get to a recording to talk.

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Yeah. About you, sir. About you. Actually, on second thought, come to our Atlanta show. Thank you.

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Can you imagine? He like, knows who I was and then he listens to this podcast and he's like, in fact, I'm dropping a ticket off at her house.

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No, literally, he's like, now I'm gonna her out and now she's getting tickets all the time.

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Can you imagine just the absolute shock of me thinking I'm getting a coffee and this is gonna be like, not manic. And I look up and there's just a cop standing there, like playing with his vest.

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Honestly, let's just wear police vests to our tour dates.

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Can you imagine?

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I'll just wear a police vest and then like put my hands in there. Like. Like he was standing in front of your window.

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Also, I do have a co parenting follow up from the will.

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Well, I'm scared because I never know what's gonna happen when we talk about our baby dads on here. So let's hear it.

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Well, so, you know, I basically told him that I was going to drive my bronco through his front door because he pissed me off. And then it got tame for like a couple days. We're talking like five, six, seven days. We hear nothing from each other. We are good ghosters of each other. Actually talked about that in therapy. Like, is that what happened to my marriage? Because he is an absolute avoidant and I somewhat am an avoidant in some ways as well. So it's just like there is absolutely a problem there that needs to be addressed, but nobody's coming to the table to address that. We're just going to ignore each other until we can't anymore.

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So I feel like that's the best case scenario. Lindsay. Honestly, that is your best bet.

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It is the best bet. And it also saved me a car wreck, State Farm claim and not going to jail. So you have State Farm avoiding him and I get a text, like a rogue text on Tuesday. And it's like, I need you to call me asap. I'm thinking to myself, okay, number one, don't send me ASAP text. That's number one. Number two, if it was so asap, why didn't you call me?

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True.

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Like you just want my number on your call log. Like, that is what this is boiling down to. So I immediately call him and he's like, hey, I know you're going to be pissed. Have heard what you said about the parenting schedule. Understand my job has changed, but I actually have to be in Raleigh first thing in the morning. Mind you, this is 3:30pm okay. And I'm like, you know, I had trauma therapy on Saturday, so I'm going to go into that zen mode of I'm not about to jump your ass right now at 3:30 in the afternoon when I'm wrapping up my day. So I'm just sitting listening, and he's like, are you there? Yeah. Oh, I'm here. I'm taking in the fact that you need to be six and a half hours away at 9am okay. So he's like, I've heard everything that you say and I just want to say you're right.

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We know.

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Do you know how good it feels to hear you're right, Bags? Like, like it feels so good music

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to your ears, especially from your ex husband.

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Oh, yeah. Like that is likely like the best win of life. And so I'm like taking in the fact that he's saying I'm right and he's like, oh, I. I can take a red eye out and then I can take a red eye back in. I'm like, okay, regardless, you're missing your

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parenting time, so are you gonna up or not?

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So he decides that he's gonna go to the Atlanta airport super early. I said it was Tuesday, it was actually Monday. Decides he was going to go to the Atlanta airport super early and he was going to take a flight out and he was going to delay his meeting and get there a little bit later. So guess who was in her ex husband's house showering our child that we share and around in his kitchen first thing on Tuesday morning. Hi, it's me. Hi. Just like chilling on his couch with his couch blanket. It's not normal.

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I just don't understand how Will didn't see what you were saying with before all of this. You know what I mean?

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Oh no. I think it's like the blindness that we choose

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Selective. Yeah, I would agree.

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And then he finally got to a point where oh my God, I have to call this at 3:30 in the afternoon and I immediately actually need to leave an hour ago. And so now I've got to figure my out.

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Wait, did you. Oh, he was flying. See, I don't know about flying. The six hours I was more worried about that is like it's a six hour drive and you'd be there. Or you could spend six hours or more going to the airport, checking in, going through security, getting on the plane, getting off the plane, getting your luggage, doing this, getting a rental car. I would have just rather drive for six hours.

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You know what? I feel like that is a huge conundrum. When I'm by myself, I'm flying regardless. Like I don't care if it takes me the same amount of time. I'm flying because I don't have to think about anything really with kids. If it is like a six hour car ride or under, I'm absolutely taking my car and I'm gonna have my vehicle.

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I think it really depends because last year we flew to Salem, Massachusetts and I don't think we would. I don't think we would fly this time. Like we would just drive and then same for like tour and stuff is like I'm flying to the first city and then anything under six hours I'm just driving which the first leg of the tour is literally flying to Indianapolis and then driving the rest of the first four tour dates. Because you'd spend the exact same amount of time and honestly probably the same amount of money for the rental car for that period of time but for your. For kids. Agreed. Like when I take the kids to Salem this year will drive and I'll have the kids with me. So that makes sense.

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It just is so much more convenient for kids and then just like all the stuff, like the extra stuff that you have to bring. I'm a pretty light packer when it's just me. But I will think, oh, we're going to a beach place. And Jackson needs a swimsuit. But it could turn winter so I need like winter jackets. Why? The satisfaction is so real. The satisfaction of the needo. But why are you playing with it in front of me?

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I was just showing you that. I got an ice cream one.

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It's, it's giving like my jelly shoe era. Like I'm gonna wear them and nobody else can. Like what? What is wrong with us?

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You think Jackson would trade me any of his from any of mine?

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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I guarantee you he would.

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I'm gonna send him a vid. I'll send you a video later, and it'll be of all my noodles, and then I'll ask Jackson in the video if there's any he wants to trade.

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Okay. So I saw on Tick Tock Shop that there's, like, jellyfish needles. Have you seen them?

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I ordered them.

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Okay, well, I don't know how to order off Tick Tock Shop.

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I'll give you one when you get here.

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Oh, you. You already got them?

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Yeah.

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Wait, wait. Can we tell everyone? Wait, are we telling everybody the dates that I'm going on on tour?

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Just what dates are you coming to so we know?

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Okay. I only know the cities. I don't know.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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Yeah.

[B]

I'm going to Charleston. Charleston, Charleston, Charlotte, Raleigh. I'm actually really excited, but I also equally had a crash out last night.

[A]

Did you really want to see me ugly crying and smiling. Smiling through the bullshit?

[B]

Who were you doing this in front of?

[A]

Everyone. I was at soccer practice. That was me.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

I sent it to Becky, I think, or Matt. I sent it to one of them because I was going through it.

[B]

But, like, life's just really hard right now.

[A]

No, you are not kidding.

[B]

It's just really hard. Lissa says I'm gonna tell my mom she has to go to the Raleigh show to meet y'. All.

[A]

Please, please tell her. Actually, can you come work the merch table at that show also, so then she can see you also? You know what I mean?

[B]

It's just, like, so sad, though, because I have been ghosting. Well, I'm pretty much always a ghoster of my Instagram messages, but, like, seeing people messaging about the tour, and they're like, will you be at this date? Will you be at that date? Nope. That's not a city I'm going to, so you might have to relocate.

[A]

I. I think that we should recreate me trying to turn you upside down, because I have the video from last tour in my phone, and it didn't really work out, but I feel like I'm stronger now, especially with the. That I've gone through in the last three months. I'm much stronger, and so I feel like it's time for us to do the upside down trend circa 2026.

[B]

Have you been working out, like, physically or just mentally? You've been on a mental.

[A]

The mental load that I deal with on a day to day basis is really strengthening my core.

[B]

Oh, my God. Wait. And then in the midst of. Of all of the tour stuff that's going on, this is. This is how my crash out, like, Transpired. Okay. I'm like, I specifically need to leave for Delaware on Sunday, and I still don't have flights, but I think it's like the adhd. Like, I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna do it until it gets to a point where the flights are so expensive, and it's just like, why did I do that to myself? But, like, I did it to myself.

[A]

Okay, time out. Because the funny thing is, last night, Ike said to me, do you think Lindsay's gonna cancel? And I said, no, her flights are booked.

[B]

Well, they. They were. As of last night. They were booked. I'm actually flying into Baltimore.

[A]

Oh, okay. That one's cheaper, to be honest. And it's much smaller. It's cleaner. It's. It's hard because Philly is more convenient, but Baltimore is cheaper and smaller. So, like, I could see the lore of, like, why you would fly into Baltimore.

[B]

So I'm flying into Baltimore then. Anybody who has ever traveled, like, the whole Uber thing, I just. I love that it's a service, but I can't really get behind it. Number one, I feel like it's so expensive. Number two, I just, like, don't like being in somebody else's car like that. Number three, if I need to go somewhere, I don't want to be dependent on calling some random person or whatever.

[A]

Yeah, no, I get that. I do.

[B]

It's just not a thrill. Okay. So I looked at the cost of Uber from the Baltimore airport to Dover, and it was over a hundred dollars. For the Uber?

[A]

No, for that, you could just get a rental car.

[B]

If I rent a car, it's like $186 for the entire time, and I don't have to return it until I go back to the airport. So it's like, obviously, I don'. Care if it's girl math. That's what I'm doing. There were, like, all these great reviews on these restaurants between Baltimore and Dover. But then when you start looking in Dover, it's like, there's nowhere to go.

[A]

No, there's not. The only options you would. Well, you could go to down to the beach.

[B]

That's the options.

[A]

Agave is great.

[B]

So was doing that, and then I was like, okay, I have a ticket. I was going through my little counter. Just. Do you have like a catch all counter where it's just, like, random, like, lives for a period of time?

[A]

Yes. And whenever I do eventually build a new house, I will have a catch all counter that's like in the pantry or something so that I don't have to see it.

[B]

Okay, well, I'll take a picture of my catch all counter. Like some of the stuff that's been on there, I swear to you, has been there since I moved into this house, which is absolutely insane. And I don't think that anybody would expect that from me with my personality. But it's just like, it's just there. If I need something and I don't know where it is, it's probably there, so leave it there. Hunter comes over last night because I finally got an alarm system. Finally.

[A]

Well, you've been living there for how long?

[B]

Well, in July it'll be two years.

[A]

And you didn't have a system?

[B]

No, no.

[A]

Why?

[B]

Well, it was just like very inconvenient to like try to do it. And now I can see everything that happens anywhere at my house. So somebody wants to sneak up on me. Also that. Also that if somebody tries to sneak up on me, like you're not. Because I have system that they will catch you at any angle. Like wherever you are coming from, you will be caught. The sound is absolutely crazy. If somebody tries to break in on me, not only will my neighbors hear it, my ex husband could probably hear it. That's how loud it is. And I just feel so safe and like comforted. But with all of that being said, he's like, lindsay, you need to go through this frickin catch all counter because it's driving me insane. And I was like, oh, put that on the list of tasks of things to do because I don't really want to do that. Okay. He starts, he's like, well, just give me the pile of like and let me start like getting rid of stuff that we know for a fact that you don't need.

[A]

Yeah. Or like in its place.

[B]

A couple weeks ago I'm at pilates and I get a text from Hunter of my car. And it's like one of those like car cam picture things like where you're speeding or like doing something you're not supposed to be doing and they take a picture of your car. Okay. So I got one of those in Florida, but I haven't been in Florida since December. So I'm like, who drove my car? Like you obviously that was not me based off the dates that was not me. You know why it was the wrong dates? Because they kept updating the invoice because in my catch all counter they had sent other tickets that I had not paid, so they just kept resending it. So the invoice date kept changing and I'm like, okay, well, that's starting to make sense. Also, if I'm doing something wrong, why are you taking a picture of me?

[A]

No, for the proof, Lindsay. That is for the proof, they have to be able to prove it was you. But what's so interesting about that? Like, that whole scenario of, like, the. There have been times where I have literally not gotten a notice for something like that for a year, two years. At that point, that is no longer my problem. At the point that you waited an entire year to send me a notice, that is a you problem. Because I couldn't have known. Lindsay, did you know that Fast Growing Trees is America's largest and most trusted online nursery?

[B]

I absolutely did know that. And Fast Growing Trees has become one of my favorite websites because I love to just browse things that I don't need, but I'm going to buy.

[A]

I love them, especially because they have the hydrangea plants and aelas I just ordered. They actually just got delivered, so I'll post a picture as soon as we plant them. But what I love about them is that they have all the plants that your home and your yard need. And I absolutely love that when you go on their website, you put in your zip code and it tells you what growing zone you're in, so what plants would work best for your environment? And for me, that's a game changer because I'm a big indoor plant girly. But I have no idea what's going to thrive outside my house. So that was really helpful. Helpful for me.

[B]

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[A]

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[B]

Didn't you almost get arrested for that once?

[A]

No, my license was suspended.

[B]

First of all, a license suspension is crazy.

[A]

Well, the crazy part of it is because my dog was at large. Like, my dog ran away at the time and the animal control had to help me, like, capture him and bring him back because I thought this was, like, years. And so I didn't know that. So I got a ticket for the dog being at large and because I didn't realize I didn't pay it on time. So they suspended my license. Well, the notice that my life. This was like five, six, seven years ago. The notice that my license was getting suspended because the dog was at large went into the erythial. Erythrial abyss or whatever. The. The. It went into the abyss and they suspended my license. But then the actual notice for my license being suspended, I did not know. Get. Whatever. It got lost in the sauce somewhere. I had been driving that entire year. And then I got a notice saying, your license has been reinstated a year later.

[B]

And I said, like, you were riding dirty unbeknownst to you.

[A]

Well, because then it's like when you look at the law, like, I didn't know is not an excuse or a defense. But, like, I didn't get a notice.

[B]

It was my defense today. Like, I didn't see it. Like, what do you mean? I'm still so aggravated by that. Like, do you really think that I'm going to intentionally run a stop sign with a cop sitting right there?

[A]

That's a great question. No.

[B]

Okay, I need to ask everybody who's listening to this. If you are speeding, like, on the highway and you see a cop but you're like, pushing 95, are you slamming on the brakes? Are you just, like, keep going? Because they already got you.

[A]

They already got you. I'm just gonna keep going. I might like, me too. I might let go of the Gas and like, keep cruising. But I'm not slamming on my brakes because then it's obvious. Then it's like, now they know. But also I've seen like a cop on a highway and like I'm speeding. I saw them entirely too late. Keep speeding. And there's a next cop that's gonna pull out and get me.

[B]

Oh, yeah. It's like a speed trap that they set up.

[A]

Yeah. But farm dropped me. So I have progressive now.

[B]

The fact that we have license suspension have ran stop signs, have ran through some type of camera thing that I didn't even know took a picture of me. This is insane. And we need to go to driving school.

[A]

Well, I did. I had to take a defensive driving course.

[B]

I don't think they needed to teach you how to drive more defensively than what you already do. I am telling you, when we were on tour, the ride from Houston to Dallas was. I've been through some scary, but the ride from Houston to Dallas was likely one of the scariest collective moments of my life.

[A]

That is dramatic. I was getting us there safe.

[B]

I was trying to saying, I'm pretty sure I'm about to fall asleep. I'm like, this is pushing 95 to 100 down the freeway trying to get somewhere. I'm pretty sure I'm about to fall asleep. Like, ma', am,

[A]

this time we'll have a sprinter van. The car will be packed full of people, so we could take turns. We will all have our seat belts on. We all might wear a football helmet just in case. And we have to bring up the merch at all costs because we have to make sure that the birch makes it to the next destination.

[B]

Wait, do we trust me driving a sprinter van?

[A]

No. Absolutely not. Okay. Real, real talk though. I have a question for you.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I have to ask Becky too, for the dates that she's coming on. What is the plan for driving? Because, like, are we driving the night of. So say, for example, I'll pull up the tour dates. We have the first one, Indianapolis. Would you rather drive that night after the show to the next destination or leave at the ass crack of dawn and get.

[B]

Not that one. I'm not. I'm not on the bus if it's that one.

[A]

Which one?

[B]

The second one. I want the first option.

[A]

Do you want to go there the night before?

[B]

Yeah. Like we leave, like do a show and then leave that night and go to the next destination and Houston and Dallas. Yes.

[A]

That's kind of what I was thinking too, because it. If I'm and maybe the listeners can resonate with this, like, with work and stuff like that. Sometimes you need, like. Like, a period of time to, like, wind down. So, like, it's not like I would be able to go to sleep, because I would still. I'm still going to be, like, adrenaline and on a high and all the things after the show and, like, decompressing. And I'm sure we're going to talk about it for a while, so, like, we could use the car ride for that. And I was asking Taylor, you know Taylor, so she has a hair salon here. And I asked her how she feels about living, like, 35 minutes away. And she's like, honestly, it gives me a period of time to, like, de stress on the drive home from work now. And so I was kind of thinking the same, Like, I don't know, that I would want to get up first thing in the morning and drive and then be in the car for six hours when I'm about to have a. Like, we're about to be on stage again. Do you know what I mean?

[B]

Yeah. See, I don't. I don't like that option. And I agree with the decompressing, but I have a funny story about decompressing. So this one person met me, like, out in the wild, and she was like, I just have to tell you, like, you and Kale helped me decompress after work. Like, coffee Combos podcast helps me decompress on my ride home after work. Any person that ever says that we help them decompress, that's insane. Like, what is going on in their

[A]

life, Our life, our worlds are. Must be more chaotic for them to. To. To decompress with us, because we are

[B]

crazy. Absolutely crazy. Okay? And then I've got to tell you, so for anybody who's listening to this, did not see that we were nominated for a Webby for 2026. About that. But I have another little travel companion that thinks that they're traveling with me to New York. And I told her, I said, let me just, like, find out if we're going to get nominated first before I make this commitment. And she was like, okay, but you need to let me know. And she's asked me every single week for the entire month of March. Did you find out? Did you find out? Okay, we'll find out yesterday and find out yesterday. And she was like, oh, my God, I am so glad that y' all got nominated, because I just wanted to go and shop on Canal Street.

[A]

Same take again.

[B]

Take a guess of who it is. It's my nanny. She said that she's saving. She's saving her money and that she's so excited that we got nominated so that she can secure the fact that she's going to Canal street. And she also wants to eat Italian.

[A]

Okay? Can we please take her to dinapolis? Because I love that restaurant. And also, I'm already speaking as if we won the Webby, so it would be really nice if we actually won it. And then I didn't cry myself to sleep the way that the anxiety. You know what? 2026 was supposed to be my year of vacationing, okay? And somehow it ended up being the year of the grind, okay? The anxiety of the Webby Award and being nominated and possibly not winning, the anxiety of ticket sales is going to send me into a fucking spiral. You are going to have to institutionalize me the way that I'm checking my ticket sales because I'm so scared that we're not as cool as we think we are.

[B]

Well, okay, number one, if I come to Delaware and I have to fly into Baltimore and I get a Kia rental car, and you were on a grippy stock vacation, the way that I'm going to be fucking pissed.

[A]

Not the Kia. Oscar told you not to do that specifically, because you can't tell. No, because could you imagine we show up to Indianapolis. We've never been there. Have you been to Indianapolis?

[B]

No.

[A]

Indianapolis and Grand Rapids, Michigan, are my first two shows, and they are the biggest venues I've ever done. They're over a thousand people each. Imagine we walk in there and there's 20 people

[B]

the one walking in, because I'm not going to be at those shows.

[A]

Grateful, thankful, blessed. But, like, do you know what that would do to someone's spirit? Like, genuine Anybody, not just me, but I'm talking, like, any artist. Rebecca is over here. Like, yeah, what the fuck would we do? Do you remember when the insult we were in, like, middle school and high school? Wait, what she thinks she. Do you remember, like, the insults when we were kids was like, she thinks she's so cool. And that was, like, the worst insult that you could ever say is that she thinks she's so cool. Do you remember that?

[B]

If anybody knew some of the diabolical things that were said to us through the Internet and then things that we have heard people say about us.

[A]

It's one thing to hear. This is, like, completely veering off of any type of conversation we were just having. But, like, it genuinely is one thing to hear, like, in a friend group oh, you know that friend said this about you, right? And like, you kind of take it with a grain of salt. You're a little salty, but, like, you're kind of like, whatever, seeing a person write out in a text message or in a voice note or like an email, just like, in writing. And this also applies to, like, comments that we say about people online. To see it in writing from someone is next level.

[B]

It's absolutely insane. I would just rather not know.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

At the point that I'm already living in a state of delusion for, like, however many years, I would just rather stay in that state of delusion.

[A]

What state of delusion? What do you mean?

[B]

Oh, I've been delusional since, like, 1989 for sure.

[A]

Oh, okay. I mean, yeah, I. I delusion, though. Like, where's the delusion?

[B]

My delusion is I make up, like, these scenarios in my mind. Like, I know all of the bad stuff, but, like, I create these scenarios in my own mind that it's like, better than bad.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And that's better delusional. It's like, okay, I. I acknowledge the fact of, like, what could be going on, but I have to talk myself out of it. So that's where the delusion comes in. Right. It's like, okay, I do know these things and I do know this stuff is going on, but I'm gonna, like, positive self talk myself to the point that it's not just positive self talk. It is literally mental instability.

[A]

I think I'm the toxic friend that's like, yeah, be positive. Yeah, it's gonna be great. It's fine. So I guess I'm the delusional friend.

[B]

Everything's gonna work out. Everything's gonna be good.

[A]

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[B]

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[A]

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[B]

Yeah, so. So that's the place I'm at. Oh, wait. About the tour, though. So you said in the event that we walked in and there was 20 people there, like, what would you do? I understand we're talking about tour. Not everybody listening to this. They're like, we don't give a. Because we. We're not ever gonna go on tour. Just think, like, somebody living their dreams. Like, imagine Miley Cyrus and Hannah Montana, okay? And you're like, I'm just living out my dream. And then you walk in and there's 20 people there.

[A]

No, but it's like, to be fair, like, I keep telling myself, this is what I'm. I'm so delusional that at night I'm like, okay, so tickets have been on sale for five days. And I'm like, okay, it's fine. Because the haters, like, the trolls that are like, is anyone actually going to this? Whatever. It's like, okay, I have sold more than 20 tickets, and it's like, could that person sell 20 tickets? That person that is talking and trying to rip down my spirit, tear down my spirit, tear down, tear me down, hate me, troll me, whatever. That one person could not sell 20 tickets. So if anything, over 20 tickets, like, I'm already doing better than them.

[B]

In fact, I just want to say this, and then I'm going to exit stage left on that comment. The person that's trolling you saying that probably sold 20 additional tickets for you.

[A]

True. Because they're, like, bringing attention to the fact that I'm going on tour. So it's like, that's what I told Ike this morning, because I went on. I went on Tik Tok Live, and me and Becky were, like, battling it out. Shout out to everyone on our battle. That was really nice of you guys. The haters are actually doing wonders for me. But it still hurts to read the comments is basically the moral of the story.

[B]

Absolutely. For sure. But if that was a situation that there was, like, 20 people, if that's the number we're going off of, I'm conflicted on it because my gut instinct would say, refund their tickets right now. But the fact that those 20 people took time out of their day and, like, their lives to go and do that, unfortunately, I'm just gonna have to do a private show.

[A]

Yeah, no, I mean, here's the thing. Like 20 people there now. It's a full blown hour and a half meet and greet and we're gonna have a great time. It's just like walking into like last tour, the venues were four and five hundred people. These ones are a thousand. Twelve hundred. Like trip double and triple the size. So it would just. It's like more like 20 people in a. In a room of 500. Okay, not as bad. Still, like, whatever, but like, I'm just thankful that I even had, like, thanks to Live Nation for even getting me these bookings because, like, I'm kind of embarrassing.

[B]

Low key embarrassing about what?

[A]

I mean, just in general,

[B]

there are some things that I definitely want to privately talk to you about ahead of tour because there are some things that definitely need to be ran back for the nostalgia of it.

[A]

In Dallas, I showed Ike this morning us warming up. Like when we went to mic check and we were doing mean girls raps and dick down in Dallas. No, no, that is going to be coffee combos on tour thing every single time. Okay? Like, it's a concert, it's a comedy show, it's a live podcast, it's games, it's giveaways, it's Flipp Lindsay upside down and almost dropping her on her head. It's those things.

[B]

Wait, can I just tell you, when I was scrolling through one of your photo dumps, Will's head

[A]

that was on

[B]

the popsicle stick because the way that it was positioned, and I think it was because I was also laying in the bed, like at night, so it was dark, it looked like he was there. No.

[A]

And I. I was secretly hoping that he would show up. And now that I know that he's doing business in Raleigh, I may or may not be harassing Will to join us for the Raleigh show.

[B]

That. That show will have a little parenting co parenting segment if he'll show up.

[A]

Well, I'll bring my kids. If you bring your kids, I give you.

[B]

Y' all want me to give y' all a live look at the inside of our life and arguments? Because I'll do it on stage.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Really? That's what you want?

[A]

Yes, I do. I don't know. Lindsay, I've been working with. I've been working on the show layout.

[B]

What do we think about me messaging Trey Lewis and asking him if we could get like a live dick down?

[A]

Does he live in Dallas? Do you think that he would come to our Dallas?

[B]

He lives in I think close to Nashville.

[A]

Can he come to our Nashville show? I'm gonna ask him no, because I played that video for Ike because obviously he didn't know that we, like, sung Dick down in Dallas. And I said no, because you don't understand that this is, like, a staple now every show. Honestly, we need Becky to. Also any shows that you and Becky are going to be at, we need to bring Becky in. She can be our backup dancer because I don't dance.

[B]

You know, I just want to see Becky sing Dick down in Dallas because what does she know about getting dick down?

[A]

She slept with more men than me.

[B]

I know. Well, she's told me that. So when I was recording with her on the Southern Tea, I was getting, like, the lesbian lore, and she told me that, like, basically in college, she went from hanging out at the frat houses to the sorority houses. And I'm like, how does that transpire in a short four years?

[A]

She needs to tell her story, her coming out story, and, like, how welcoming her mom was. I think it was her mom. I don't want to speak for her, but something about, like, don't sell yourself short kind of deal. Because, like, she. Becky was, like, confused and, like, didn't understand, but I'll let her tell you.

[B]

But, like, I just don't understand how we go from getting dicked to, like, now I'm gonna eat this girl out. Like, I don't like, because I think for.

[A]

For a lot of people in the queer community, like, they. They were already gay. They just didn't realize it.

[B]

What do you mean?

[A]

Like, I would argue that most people are already gay, but they're doing what they think they're supposed to do, or they think they. They're like. I'm trying to explain what, like, they might be happy in a relationship, but, like Lissa said, I dated a guy two years and then dated a girl two years. I didn't even know being gay was an option for me. So, like, she didn't know. Like, she just thought, I'm a girl. I'm supposed to like boys. Is Lissa. Correct me if I'm wrong. So you're like, I'm dating this guy, but, like, you didn't realize that you were gay until you dated this girl, and you're like, oh, my God, this is what I wanted the whole time. Like, this is where I was meant to be the whole time.

[B]

Could you imagine me dating a girl?

[A]

Yeah, I don't know how you haven't.

[B]

Why are you a great. I think I would be the Worst lesbian of all time. Like it would go down in history books.

[A]

You could be with a touch. Me not.

[B]

What's that?

[A]

Where they only please you and you don't please them at all.

[B]

You've done that before. Yeah, that's how you know about it.

[A]

Lindsay. I'm not. That's not. That came out wrong.

[B]

The headline on People magazine.

[A]

Kale and Lindsay hook up. Kale and Becky also hung coffee.

[B]

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[A]

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[A]

I thought about this earlier and I know that this conversation is kind of like an Easter egg, but I do eventually, maybe while you're here in Delaware next week, I would like to touch on the fact that like I would like to talk about the dynamic of you and me and the. The ebbs and flows and the dynamic of our relationship over the past eight years. Because podcast is eight years old. And I kind of want to talk about, like, the periods of time where we'll go, like, more in depth, but, like, the periods of time where we were, like, just business partners, and then there were periods of times where we, like, would fight like sisters and we were really close, and then times where we weren't really talking at all. And it was just on the, like. Like talking about the entire journey of it all. Because I feel like that's important to me. And also I think that it's important to talk about it. It.

[B]

I just. I feel like everything that you just described is exactly so true. We need a presentation of, like, a graph, like, throughout the years of how everything transpired. Yeah, I thought that we were really good friends whenever the tour was. What was it last year?

[A]

Two year? 2024.

[B]

2024. Yeah. So I thought that that was like, the peak of our friendship, but then it just got better.

[A]

Yeah, I, like, I would agree with you, but there were periods of times where we would argue more than anything, or like, we cussed each other out before, like, we were fighting. But I want to dive into it a little bit because.

[B]

Remember that time that you made me cry for a whole day?

[A]

Remember that time you made me cry for a whole day?

[B]

No.

[A]

There's like Reddit threads and stuff that people think that we actually hate each other, but that's kind of where this is all stemming from. So I would love to just wait.

[B]

I saw a tick tock about that, actually, and it's like, if that was the case, we can dive deep on this on a dedicated episode, if that's what you want to do. You and I both have the types of personalities that, if that were true, and people are going to say no, that it could be true because of your dynamic that has been with someone else publicly. I think the combination of our personalities. That would never work.

[A]

I would agree with you. I would wholeheartedly agree with, like, it sounds good. And it's like, it's a good theory for like, Reddit and the trolls and stuff, but, like, in real life, that wouldn't work. Work.

[B]

I mean, some of the theories that I've seen out most recently, I'm like, okay, well, y' all actually have no idea. And I wish that we were at a place where we could, like, just tell everything because, I mean, if you're leaving, you know.

[A]

Yeah, no, it would be really nice, but it's crazy because, like, clearing up rumors is harder than we think because we'll clear up what we think that you guys want us to clear up, and then it's still not good enough stuff. They still don't like it.

[B]

And here's the thing, we could post a question box and like, put it on the official Facebook page to ask people what they would like for us to clear up, but it really needs to be posted on Reddit because that's the people that we're actually speaking to

[A]

that I can't get on Reddit. They're horror. Like, I don't even know what Reddit is. A dark, dark place. Like, it genuinely is so dark I can't get on it. But I like.

[B]

Wait, why is it's so crazy that I posted a photo dump yesterday and

[A]

no, ma', am, because we need to talk about that. You can't receive a not pregnant pregnancy test in the carousel and just post and ghost.

[B]

Oh, I did. I po. It was like posted and ghosted. Like, it's not that big of a deal, guys. Like, it is. It's really not. But I just am getting really sick and tired of people saying, oh, well, she's probably just pregnant. Or I could see her getting back with him because she was, like, already pregnant. And it's like, I certainly hope at this little phase of my life that, number one, I wouldn't wish on myself to be pregnant or anybody in the situation that I've been in. But number two, that wouldn't make me get back with somebody. So I just want to be, like, very clear.

[A]

I literally commented and said, you cannot throw that stick in there and walk away. We need to talk about this. And you said, do we really?

[B]

We don't. That was the comment. The comment was not pregnant. Oh, and we have another little fun project also while we're in Delaware that we're gonna deep wait. Is. Are we just gonna call it like the Delaware deep dive?

[A]

Yeah. Yes. Delaware deep dive.

[B]

Can you imagine?

[A]

Just commented back to me and said, ma', am, respectfully, yes, she can. That stick said everything we. Everything we would have asked had it been turned around. And I said, obviously I was joking.

[B]

Obviously that's somebody that's commenting that thinks that we hate each other.

[A]

Wait, Alani Nutrition commented on your thing.

[B]

It makes you jealous. Doesn't.

[A]

Does. And now that they have new owners, I do feel like we need to reach out again.

[B]

You know, Alani is like the collaboration that we will always want that we

[A]

will probably never get, which I don't understand. Like, I think that everybody tagging us in their stuff stuff was everything they needed to know.

[B]

Okay. Can I tell you something that lives rent free in my mind?

[A]

Yeah, of course.

[B]

Okay. So back when we started Coffee Convo's podcast, it was like, maybe, like, two years after, and I was like, hey, we need to host a panel of, like, all of the dads, like, us interviewing and interacting with the collective. I feel like I still want to do it.

[A]

It. Okay.

[B]

And I'll agree to pay them.

[A]

So explain to me what you think that would look like.

[B]

You want my, like, creative vision of what this looks like?

[A]

Yes.

[B]

I'm thinking it looks like on a stage with a bunch of chairs, because obviously there's a bunch of men. Right. They all have a mic, and you and I are going to be the host of this, asking them questions, and they're basically going to be trolling us, so we've got to have, like, tough skin. Okay.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

But I would want it, like, gloves off. Like, nothing is off limits that can be said, and the pieces just fall where they may.

[A]

Okay. And when do you predict or when do you foresee this happening?

[B]

Well, obviously, since we're going all of these places, hopefully win a webby and go to New York, then go on tour, I'm thinking that might not be the best time until fall.

[A]

Okay. Okay. So we have a little bit of time to. To gather our thoughts, to get our wits about us, and then we move forward.

[B]

And it's like, you know what? I get really sick and tired of seeing, like, some of the theories just from the collective, whether it be my life or your life. How about this? How about we'll host it? That's how unscared I am.

[A]

Who all would you summon?

[B]

Who would I summon for this project? I would summon Will Campbell. I would summon Javi. Jose. Oh. I would summon Joe.

[A]

Oh.

[B]

I would summon Christopher Michael Lopez. Eliza Elijah Scott Williams.

[A]

Okay, count me in. Honestly, sign me the up. However, all at least three of my baby dads would require payment.

[B]

Well, I just said, like, you know what? We are going to become agents on this project because we are going to be negotiating.

[A]

I mean, count me in. If they'll do it, I'll do it.

[B]

Can you imagine, though,

[A]

honestly, The Life of Kale documentary is starting to sound better and better.

[B]

I just feel like it would clear up a bunch of stuff. But they also have to understand that if we're choosing to do this project, we're going to be interviewing them. We're going to be asking Questions. I'm undecided if we should have, like, a small pool of live audience for them to be able, like, think back to, like, reunion days where there's a live audience that can ask questions.

[A]

Yep.

[B]

Like, if we could pull an audience.

[A]

I think there are rumors or not. They're not rumors. One of the things that I'm seeing, like, one teen mom T page and then another, like one of my baby dads, they talk about how, oh, well, the podcast is edited. So, like, I'm not going on something that can be edited. Okay, bet. Then let's do it live. Or. Or we do it with the audience and. Because the thing about editing is that it's not about editing things about sounds. It's about technical issues. It's about if Lindsay and I talk over each other, like, now we can mute certain tracks if we're missed, miss talking or misstepping, whatever. If we did it in front of a live studio audience, like the reunions, those people would have a real life experience to be able to say, oh, okay, well, they edited this out, or that's not how that happened, or whatever. I don't know what that looks like. But the same thing with the reunion. So it's not like. Like, just us with them in a room and then we're editing all kinds of which ways. Do you know what I mean?

[B]

And then I also thought since several of them from last tour had such an issue of the fat heads, we'll give them fat heads of us.

[A]

I mean, I'm already doing that for a segment is like, our own fat heads this time.

[B]

So that's hilarious. I just. I love the fat heads. Love it. I. I love the idea of doing this project with somewhat of a live audience because then there's, like, accountability there and, you know, a troll's gonna come. So if they say, oh, those girls edited. Blah, blah, blah. No, the. We didn't. And there was a troll actually in the audience.

[A]

Full disclosure, Coffee combos podcast. Lindsay and I don't ask for edits. We never. I mean, I can't. Let me not speak for you. I don't ask for edits. The only edits that I know are done without my. Like, I don't have to ask for it is like, if I'm going in on the baby dads and, like, that's not a fun time for me because it's not worth it. But outside of that, like, I'm not saying things and asking for anything to be edited out. So literally the only edits are, like, technical Misspeaking. Talking over each other like. Like that.

[B]

Now, have we been asked, like, do you guys want me to take this out? It's like, no, I said, what the. I said. So at this point, I've already said it. Just air it. For what?

[A]

Just air it.

[B]

Like, what. What is the point? Like, I know that people are gonna be pissed at me, but the way. Okay, so back to the pregnancy test. The way that my phone blew up yesterday, and this was the other thing that I did. I posted and ghosted, and then I put my phone on do not disturb. So, like, I really was gone. I was gone. And I just want to say, while we are doing Deep Dive Delaware, Deep Dive Delaware, I'm gonna get into all of that stuff because I know that that's, like, a hot topic that's, you know, been online of all the different theories, things that have transpired. TMZ articles, y' all are gonna find out.

[A]

Next week is going to be a busy week. All my kids are with their dads for spring break, and Lindsay's coming to Delaware. Becky is Lindsay. And so I think I'm recording, like, 10 episodes next week.

[B]

10.

[A]

The last. The beginning of March, when I recorded. I think I did nine. In one week.

[B]

That's crazy. Can we also talk about, like, how crazy dads are? Like, not the ones that we have, but, like, just, like, dads in general are so crazy. Will is so casual about taking Jackson on this cruise. Number one, Will's never been on a cruise. Cruise. Number two, Jackson has never been on a cruise. I've never been on a cruise. And I'm like, hey, can you tell me what the plans are? Because he was supposed to be with me for Easter, but then I ended up deciding Will could take him because they were gonna leave, I guess, like, on Saturday ahead of Easter, so they could do the full week and then come home and have, like, a day to decompress before school starts back. So he's like, yeah. I mean, just the way he explained everything was so casual. He was like, yeah, we're just gonna go to the airport, and then we're flying to Miami, and then. Then we're gonna get on the ship. I'm like, yeah, but how are you getting from the Miami airport to the ship? He's like, oh, I'll figure it out there, like, when I get there, like, what do you mean?

[A]

Uber?

[B]

I know, but, like, why are dads and you so casual?

[A]

I did one cruise. I'm weird about cruises now. Would I do another one? Yes, I would. But it is a little concerning because I know that, like, we've seen, like, what was that one case where the woman goes missing on the cruise ship and she's never seen again?

[B]

Oh, yeah, they. Amy. Was it Amy?

[A]

Amy Lynn Bradley. So there are laws with cruise lines that, like, while you're on the water, there's no jurisdiction over that water. So, like, if someone falls off the boat or they get lost at sea, they're like at a port or something, and then they go missing or whatever. It's like, who has jurisdiction over this case? Is it the cruise line that is based out of America? Is it that country? Is it that island? Is it the National Guard? Not the National Guard, the Coast Guard? Like, who has jurisdiction? So, like, that becomes a big problem. And then, like, same for, like, I don't know if there was like a crime or like a murder or something. Like, there's. Who has jurisdiction over this also, ever since Tick Tock got bigs in Covid, during COVID and then people were like, jumping off of cruise ships or being pushed off cruise ships or anything like that. It has really freaked me out. And then the North Shore Tick Tocks have also freaked me out a lot. So I would. I do one. Yes, probably. But I would have to do, like, big research on whatever cruise it is that I would do.

[B]

I need to know for the people who are listening, are you cruise goers or are you like, like resort goer?

[A]

Are you about cruises? Is that you can. One, you can do payment plans, so they're like, budget friendly. And then also, like, you do get to kind of see each location. And so then you would be able to like, almost test them out to see, oh, would I vacation there for five days or would I vacation there for a week? So I kind of like that aspect of it. I will say I do not like cruise line food at all. Like, it is the. It's like the all inclusive, super cheap. Not like you can eat as much as you want, but, like, it's not good.

[B]

I know somebody that. I'm not gonna say who the person is, but somebody that is related to me got in a fight with his wife. They were planning on going on a cruise over the summer, and he wanted to buy the drink package. And she was like, no, we're not budgeting for the drink package. Miss. Ma', Am, I can just tell you if I'm going on a cruise cruise and I'm going to be trapped with that many people on a ship, I am buying the drink package.

[A]

Yeah, no doubt. No doubt. I'm not a drinker, but, like, obviously, because it makes more sense to have the drink package. My sister loves Disney cruises, and I think Rebecca also loves Disney cruises. I have not done a Disney cruise, but I would. That would be probably on my, like, would go on a Disney cruise.

[B]

Wait, we should do a Disney cruise together with our kids? Because I just had a conversation with David probably back in, right after we went to, like, actual Disney. So that was December. He was like, do you. Would you ever go on a cruise? And I said, no. Cruises just, like, aren't appealing to me. Fine for whoever wants to go. Just not appealing to me. And he was like, oh, yeah. But, like, the Disney cruises are so cool. So he was like, they always get good reviews. Like, they have a new boat. Like, all this stuff. So then, and I think it was like, January, I had my OBGYN appointment, or gyno, whatever they call it. And I go in and mind you, the person looking at my kitty cat. So my gynecologist, she ended up retiring and went to internal medicine. Okay. And she's the only one woman that's ever seen my kitty like that since I first started going to the gyno. She was the one who delivered Jackson. So I was kind of, like, hesitant to go to this doctor's appointment because, like, now somebody else is looking at it. Like, it's kind of weird. So I go in and she tells me that she's, like, relatively close neighbors with my ex husband. And I'm like, are you guys gonna go and, like, talk about, like, I know hipaa, but, like,

[A]

I know there's hippo, but, like, since it's your ex husband and you have a child together, like, would she be allowed to say that you're her patient or no?

[B]

I don't know. But it's like she's all up in there, you know, where they tell you, like, scoot, scoot to the bottom, like you're not far enough down. It's like you're doing, like, a little slide. And you're like, please don't let me leave a snail trail. Like, this is, like, weird. Okay? So. So she's all up in that thing, okay? And she tells me that she just got back off of a Disney cruise, like, while she's up in there scraping. And I'm like, okay. Well, my now ex boyfriend at the time, I was like, we just talked about a Disney cruise, and she was telling me, like, all of the details and, like, what you need to do and how her. They have One daughter and how they do, like, a Disney cruise every single year. She was telling me about the ship that we need to go on, and it made it so enticing to me that I wanted to book the Disney cruise immediately when I left the guy.

[A]

Now my sister swears by them, Rebecca swears by them. That would be the one. Like. And I'm not going to real Disney until the twins are, like, five or six. Because I want to do the VIP thing again. I would do a Disney. The only other thing about cruises, honestly, travel in general is really hard for me because if it's not an Airbnb, I would have to book multiple rooms. So same for a cruise, same for a hotel. Because I think the. The most that you can do is, like, four people per room, five people per room. There's. There's already seven. There's seven kids and then two adults. There's already nine of us. And then we need an adult to be with the other kids, because if we're splitting them up, then we would need a third adult in the other room. I want to ask Rebecca to price out what it would cost to do a Disney cruise for one. And like. Like, look at the rest of this year./20, 27 if you're down.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

I mean, I. Listen, there are people that are living on cruise ships right now because it's cheaper than an apartment.

[B]

That's so crazy.

[A]

So, like, they're retiring and going and living on cruise ships for months at a time.

[B]

I mean, it's giving below deck.

[A]

Okay, so foul play. Hello, coffee combos team. Big fan. Love you both. Unfortunately for me, but fortunately for you, I have a foul play. I learned. Oh, wow. So I learned the very. I learned a very important lesson the hard way. Do not attempt to remove a menstrual cup in a public bathroom unless you're emotionally prepared for the consequences. In theory, the process is simple. In practice, it's more like diffusing a bomb. Except the bomb is full of blood in a tiny stall, trying to be discreet, doing advanced finger yoga. Everything's going fine. Like, everything's going fine until it's not One wrong move, and suddenly it's less feminine hygiene and more lowbudget crime scene. I'm talking blood all over the toilet and stall. I'm panicking and standing there thinking, well, this is how I go down. Not with dignity, but with a wad of toilet paper. And the worst part, you can't just leave. You have to clean it up like nothing happened. Like, you're not one Paper towel away from filing a police report on yourself. God forbid you asked. You have to ask for a mop top. So, yeah. Any advice? If you're going to try a menstrual cup, do it at home. A con, a controlled environment with backup plans. Maybe even a hazmat team. So foul. But safe to say tampons are the way to go for me. Love you, ladies. I have thought about the option of using a menstrual cup because I bleed so much and I leak so much. But with my luck, it will be overflowing regularly. And then me trying to take. I'm clumsy.

[B]

I.

[A]

Could you imagine me trying to take out?

[B]

No.

[A]

Like, I just had a whole debacle. I switched my purple mattress to my Lisa mattress because I bled so heavily all over my purple mattress, only to find out that that was just a cover and you could take it off and wash it. But needless to say, like, I wear diapers regularly for my period and it would not be a good look for me to use a menstrual bag cup.

[B]

I've never thought about using one. I know it became a trend, like, sometime over the last couple of years where people were switching away from tampons and using them. Whatever floats your boat. Just could not be me. I will always be riding with the Tampax Pearl. Really love her. But in a public bathroom, like, trying to use a menstrual cup, which I'm sure it's like, one of those things that you just learn and you get better at it, like, over time. Time. I will never understand going into a public bathroom and you see, like, tampons just, like, hanging out on the floor or, like, on top of the, like, disposable, like, where you dispose of it. You know what I'm talking about?

[A]

Yep.

[B]

Or it'll just be like a pad wrapped up and it's on the floor. It's like, who taught you something?

[A]

Here's the thing. I. Periods are messy and gross for me. Like, and by gross, I just mean like. Like, I might walk out of a public restroom and not realize there's blood on me. That's how much I bleed. So I just struggle with, yeah, it's horrible. It's horrendous.

[B]

So you wear diapers. You wear diapers with a tampon, like, every cycle.

[A]

It. Mainly to bed. I don't. Excuse me. I try not to wear diapers in public. But when we were on tour last time, I did wear them on stage because I was nervous about bleeding through on stage in front of Everyone, same for when Matt used to bring me up on stage for his comedy stuff. I would get so nervous because I'm like, okay, I'm gonna embarrass myself. And Matt has big shows. Like, he started, like, he started with shows that I graduated to. You know what I mean?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So I remember the first time he brought me out, and I'm like, oh, my. Like, I have to wear a diaper. So I did. But then I'm embarrassed because I'm like, what if the diaper shows? So now I just call myself out before anything. If y' all see me bleeding on stage, I'm sorry. If y' all see my diaper sticking out on Sage, I'm sorry.

[B]

Oh, my God. Wait. I've always, like, wondered how the diaper thing really works for you, because do you not, like, swish around?

[A]

No, the adult diapers have a different material that aren't super loud. So it's more like diaper underwear.

[B]

Oh, okay. Okay. So it's more like, like, clothish.

[A]

Yes. Please go vote for us. We're posting the link all over our socials for the Webby Awards. This is the 30th annual, and it will be Coffee Combo's second year in a row taking home a Webby Award. We're really, really excited for it, and I hope you'll consider voting for us. We are in the lifestyle category, so look for our links. We'll also put it in the description of this episode and then we'll also put that's. It's free to vote. Completely free to vote. It's also free to tag your friends in all of our stuff and you can leave us reviews, ask us questions that you would love for us answer on stage. You can leave those as a review because we'll see those more than we'll see, like, a question box situation. And then you guys can also get tickets for tour dates. We're going to put together some posts about exactly which shows Lindsay will be at, so you know exactly which ones that she's going to be there for. And you can get those [e-mail] or the description of this episode.

[B]

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[A]

See ya. Okay, guys, we're back. You asked for it. And we're delivering. Killer is going on tour. We're super excited for the fatherless behavior tour. 23 cities, three countries, all in one summer. And you guys can check out tour dates and see if we're coming to a city near you on killlowry.com and if you want early access to information and announcements, head over to Patreon because you might get it before everyone else.

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