Questionable Choices & Unsolicited Advice

Summary

Coffee Convos with Kail Lowry and Lindsie Chrisley
Episode: Questionable Choices & Unsolicited Advice
Date: March 19, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this lively and unabashedly honest episode, Kail and Lindsie dive into the real-world chaos of motherhood, co-parenting, questionable life hacks, and awkward conversations about bodily functions and sex. From tales of parenting fails, the trials of sharing custody, and confessions about household cleaning obsessions, to deeper questions about social norms, gender roles, and public figures' misdeeds, the conversation veers hilariously between sincere advice and outrageous storytelling. The duo also tackles heavier issues, like Internet safety and political scandals, while keeping their wit and candor front and center.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Gift Giving Awkwardness & Bedazzled Pill Boxes (00:00–01:09)

• Opening banter about the discomfort around giving and receiving gifts.
• Kail reveals her new “hyper-fixation” on bedazzling her pill container for her Adderall and multivitamin—searching for small joys and distractions as a form of self-care.
• Quote: “I need to hyper fixate on something good.” — Kail (00:46)

2. The Great “Neato” Fidget Craze & Parenting Logistics (01:09–06:29)

• Lindsie’s wild morning—her son’s obsession with “Neato” squishy toys, being sold out at every store, and her reputation as “the plug at Walgreens.”
• Kail is baffled by the neato craze, and jokes about becoming Lindsay’s “needle plug.”
• Quote: “If you have access to Nido's… possibly stealing off the back of a delivery truck—I'll buy them.” — Lindsie (02:54)

3. Hyperfixation on Cleaning & Household Organization (06:29–09:00)

• Lindsie’s yearly pressure-washing “spiral” and addiction to having a sparkling clean garage.
• Kail and Lindsie compare their approaches to household gadgets—especially Dysons—calling out their collective hoarding tendencies and children’s involvement in cleaning routines.

4. Sibling Confessions and Parenting Fails (09:17–11:39)

• Kail’s son, Lincoln, confesses to hitting Creed (his brother) on the head with a baseball bat years earlier. Sibling secrets, bribing with McDonald's, and the cardinal rule: “Don’t come to your parents unless you’re bleeding or need the hospital.”
• Quote: “He said, ‘Well, he was okay, and I told him if he stopped crying, I’d buy him McDonald’s.’” — Kail, sharing Lincoln’s sibling logic (09:59)
• “Lincoln, how long have you been keeping that in?” — Kail
  “About three years.” — Lincoln (10:37)

5. Coparenting Chaos, Kid Schedules, and the Glow Party Breakdown (13:36–16:49)

• Lindsie details the logistical circus of shared custody, forgotten backpacks, last-minute party invites, and her meltdown over surprise sleepovers.
• Debating modern parenting: the struggle to say no and keep up with kids' friendships and social calendars.

6. Kids and Viral Trends: Neatos in the Microwave & Tide Pods (16:49–18:18)

• Shock and disbelief over the “neato in the microwave” phenomenon; comparisons to the Tide pod craze; reflecting on what drives kids to do risky, viral stunts.

7. Decluttering, Hoarding, and the Mental Game of Letting Go (18:25–21:33)

• Both hosts confess to keeping unused beauty and cleaning products out of guilt for spending money, even years later.
• Kail: “I literally told Ike he couldn’t buy more cocoa butter because we needed to finish lotion we already have… as if he wants to smell like something from Bath and Body Works five years ago.” (20:28)
• Resisting household chaos: Toothpaste wars, brushing teeth in the shower vs. the sink, and strict personal routines.

8. Towels, Laundry, and Domestic Rituals (23:03–24:26)

• How often do you reuse a towel? Do you actually wash it every time?
• Lindsie: “I always put the towel to my face first, but then I'm like, in my hoo-ha, I'm in my butt crack… You don’t know where you stopped and started.” (23:38)

9. Pop Culture, True Crime, and JFK Documentaries (25:09–28:17)

• Lindsie brings up a new JFK documentary (on Hulu) and muses about “where did men like that go?”
• Kail admits she only knows about the Kennedy family from Marilyn Monroe rumors and a famous lobotomy story.
• Explaining what a lobotomy is vs. an enema; old-school medical “solutions” and the history of control over women.

10. Grievances With Co-Parenting and “Doing Things for Yourself” (29:02–31:22)

• Lindsie rants about her co-parent (not-so-discreetly referring to her ex Will), who claims he "hasn’t done anything for himself" while golfing on work trips.
• Kail’s humorous take: “If you’re listening to this, Willard, that is not you going golfing and then coming back and saying you haven’t done anything for yourself.” (31:09)

11. Philosophical Debates: Who Gives Life—Men or Women? (31:32–34:35)

• The hosts passionately debate the classic question of “who gives life,” with Kail breaking down the argument that only women bring life forth after conception.
• “Life goes on without the dad. Life does not go on without the mom.” — Kail (32:30)
• “This is my baby… He sucked on my tit. Like, what did you do?” — Lindsie (33:41)

12. Technology, Safety, and Political Scandals (37:25–43:54)

• Discussion of the recent conviction of North Dakota Senator Ray Holmberg for child abuse. Kail laments systemic failures in vetting public personalities.
• Lindsie explains her habit of looking up local sex offender registries out of anxiety.
• Worried about online predator risks, they argue that technology should be used more for protection than convenience:
  "It's like the priorities are fucked up 1,000%." — Kail (43:54)

13. Self-Driving Cars, Risky Tech, and Responsibility (44:06–47:56)

• Waymo/Uber self-driving car experiences—would they ever ride in one? Kail recounts her son’s research about the dangers of hands-free driving.
• Who is liable if you crash in a self-driving car while drunk? Kail jokes she’d sue Tesla, while Lindsie says the whole situation is idiocy.

14. Bizarre News & Urban Legends: Painkiller Ice Cream (50:16–51:56)

• Discussing a rumor about Dutch ice cream with painkillers for headaches—neither buy it, but it spins off into not being surprised by anything anymore.

15. Feet Pics, Foot Fetish DM Offers, and OnlyFans Speculation (53:13–56:20)

• Kail brings up TikTok stories of people making “millions” selling feet pics and asks Lindsie if she’d ever do it.
• They joke about getting Tory Burch sandals for “content,” and invent business plans for mass foot content.
• Kail admits to giving a “foot job” for the novelty (56:43–57:51), leading to a raucous, explicit tangent about quirky sexual experimentation.

16. Sex Talk, Relationship Boundaries, and Oral Sex in History (58:12–63:49)

• Explicit, real-life conversation about oral sex: logistics, boundaries, taboos (“Are we getting engaged soon, because that’s not really what I’m signing up for." — Lindsie, 59:01).
• Musing on who “invented” oral, learning it’s an ancient activity (thanks to their producer, Madison), and what sex must have been like for past generations.

17. The Anatomy of a Boner & Embarrassing Dating Stories (64:13–66:09)

• Lindsie shares her “Jessica Simpson moment,” believing a moving penis had its own “brain.” Kail explains it’s a muscle, like flexing your boobs.
• Both experiment with kegels on air.

18. Foul Play Story: Pregnancy, Constipation, and School Pickup Line Disaster (66:13–70:07)

• Listener submission: Confession of soiling herself in a car during school pickup due to pregnancy constipation, cleaned up with nothing but Buffalo Wild Wings wipes and bath towels. Both hosts swap similar stories.
• Quote: “Literally, liquid. I had just gotten a brand new Yukon..." — Listener (66:31)

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Memorable Quotes and Moments

• Kail on sibling secrets: “Lincoln, how long have you been keeping that in?” “About three years.” (10:37)
• Lindsie on kids and parental labor: “Like, you're asking me to do all of this stuff, and you literally have zero income, zero car, like, zero way to do anything.” (13:51)
• Kail on hoarding: “I told Ike he couldn't buy more cocoa butter because we needed to finish lotion we already have… as if he wants to smell like something from Bath & Body Works five years ago.” (20:28)
• Debating “who gives life”:
  “Life does not go on without the mom.” — Kail (32:30)
  “He sucked on my tit.” — Lindsie (33:41)
• Kail on public figures and safety: “How do we vet people that are in charge of our government better? Because obviously we wouldn't have known until we knew.” (39:44)
• On onlyfans/feet pics:
  “If you want me to stomp around mashed potatoes because you're paying me hundreds of dollars, then load up.” — Lindsie (55:23)
• On oral sex & gender double standards:
  “Are we getting engaged soon? Like, what's happening?” — Lindsie (59:01)

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Timestamps for Major Segments

| Segment | Timestamps | |-----------------------------------------------|--------------| | Gift Giving & Pill Box Bedazzling | 00:00–01:09 | | Neatos Craze & Parenting Logistics | 01:09–06:29 | | Pressure Washing & Dyson Hoarding | 06:29–09:00 | | Sibling Confessions | 09:17–11:39 | | Coparenting & Kid Schedules | 13:36–16:49 | | Dangerous Viral Trends | 16:49–18:18 | | Decluttering & Product Hoarding | 18:25–21:33 | | Morning Habits & Household Routines | 21:33–24:26 | | JFK Doc, Lobotomy, and Pop Culture | 25:09–28:17 | | Ex, Co-Parenting, and “Doing Things for Yourself” | 29:02–31:22 | | Who Gives Life? Gender Philosophies | 31:32–34:35 | | Tech, Child Safety, and Political Scandal | 37:25–43:54 | | Self-Driving Cars & Drunk Tech Liability | 44:06–47:56 | | Dutch Painkiller Ice Cream | 50:16–51:56 | | Feet Pics, Fetishes, and Side Hustles | 53:13–56:20 | | Sex Talk & Taboo Topics | 58:12–63:49 | | Boner “Brain” and Embarrassing Stories | 64:13–66:09 | | Listener Foul Play: Pregnancy Poop Disaster | 66:13–70:07 |

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Tone & Language

• Casual, unfiltered, self-deprecating, and irreverent—Kail and Lindsie don’t hold back, often using humor to address frustrations and taboo topics.
• The conversation flips rapidly between heartfelt honesty, friendly roasting, and explicit, adult humor.

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Summary for New Listeners

This episode is a rollercoaster of real-life mishaps, parenting revelations, and no-holds-barred discussions about sex, bodily functions, and the sheer unpredictability of daily parenthood. Kail and Lindsie deliver their wisdom and rants with signature candor, while relatable moments and wild tangents ensure both laughter and genuine reflection about family, technology, and the social pressures facing women today.

This is one to definitely listen to with your headphones on!

Transcript

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I hate gift giving and receiving.

[Kale Lowry]

Receiving gifts is so weird. What do you say? Thank you.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

This is coffee convos with Kale Lowry and Lindsay Chrisley.

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[Kale Lowry]

Kale, that does not interest me whatsoever.

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[Lindsay Chrisley]

A spirited discussion about motherhood, friendship, family, and life in the public eye. I'm just not with the fakery anymore.

[Kale Lowry]

There's a fakery bakery around here.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Here's Kale and Lindsay. Good morning and welcome to another episode of Combos podcast. I didn't realize that I was jumping on realizing that we were bedazzling pill containers, but here we are.

[Kale Lowry]

I didn't know you heard all of that.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

No, I hear Rebecca go, what are we bedazzling?

[Kale Lowry]

Oh, my God. Yes, I. You know that I'm on Adderall, and I also have been really trying hard to take my multivitamin. And so I'm like, okay, one I had to Google, can I take my Adderall at the same time as my multivitamin? And then I saw a video of a girl bedazzling her cute little pill dispenser with, like, beads and, like, jewels and stuff just for funsies. And, like, I need to hyper fixate on something good.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Okay, well, I need to tell you, number one, this weekend, actually, today has been the most rogue day. I thought, like, me going to Dallas was rogue. This morning, my child tells me on the way to school, he's like, hey, so you know how you said that you have a plug at. You have a plug at Walgreens? I said, yes, but, like, don't tell people that I have a plug at Walgreens, because that sounds really sus. He was like, yeah, I know, but are you going to go and sit in the parking lot to wait for the delivery of needles? And I'm like, as if I have nothing else to do all day. Then go sit and wait for the Walgreens truck to, like, pull up so I can go and get the box of needles.

[Kale Lowry]

What is needles?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Wait, what?

[Kale Lowry]

What is that, a candy?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

No, it's a. Like this.

[Kale Lowry]

And I'm like, is that a ball sack? Like, what are we. What is that?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I don't know. But okay, so he has a couple of them. He found some. Will's dad had him while we were, like, both out of town, and they went what he claims, to 10 stores and found three needles and books. A million delivered on the needles. Okay, yeah, Target 5 below. I don't know. Nine other stores did not deliver on the needles. They are sold out absolutely everywhere. People say that, like, once there is a delivery of these neatos, they're gone within minutes of them hitting the shelves, you know? Yes, that is what it is.

[Kale Lowry]

I just pulled them up. I've never heard of or seen these in my entire life.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Okay, well, if they have not become a trend there yet, you need to start preparing. So I'm asking anybody who is listening to this if you have access to Nido's. I don't care if we're talking like possibly stealing on the back off the back of a delivery truck. Like, I will buy them. Okay, so then if that wasn't enough, I go to Pilates. I understand. This is like champagne problems. I get it. I get there and realize that all of my calendar invites for Pilates. Like, when you book it, you can click, like, add to calendar. Oh, it adds on the wrong hour. Okay.

[Kale Lowry]

The time change or I don't know

[Lindsay Chrisley]

what happened, I have no idea. So that became a problem. Well, then I looked down at my phone and. And I read you verbatim the text message that I received. I need help with divorce.

[Kale Lowry]

I'm sorry? I need help with divorce?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yes.

[Kale Lowry]

Who said that?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I'm not saying it publicly because people are going to be like, what the.

[Kale Lowry]

Oh, but what a text message to receive. I need help with divorce.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Like, just so casually, like, I just, like, need help.

[Kale Lowry]

Okay, well, okay. Okay. So what did your. What was your response?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

My response was, I'm going into a recording. I don't have time for this. I'll tell you later.

[Kale Lowry]

I don't have time for this.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Wakes up.

[Kale Lowry]

You can train me as your life coach, especially through the process of divorce. And that retainer is $505,000 a month. Like, we're charging finder fees. We're about to start charging retainers for our knowledge. Okay. I didn't go through this divorce process for free on my. And take a mental hit in, you know, for my emotional well being to then turn around and help someone for free.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Listen, I know people ask us for our parenting plans all the time, and I'm like, I would love to be able to provide you that. But sure, as. As soon as I do, I'm gonna get hit with some type of lawsuit from the other side. Like, why are you publicly sharing a minor's information? So I feel like they would sell.

[Kale Lowry]

Honestly, it might, because I used yours as a template for myself.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Chris Lee and Lowry. What. What's a good law firm name?

[Kale Lowry]

Esquire. Esquires. I would be Kale Lowry, Esquire.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I just, I knew, like, I started really understanding you with the labubus over the weekend. And it's like at the point that you're asking me to buy something that will help you with your life stress so that you can squeeze it and mush it and gush it and do all this stuff, the point that you're asking me to do that and it's causing immense amount of life stress, like on me. I'm gonna play with the needles.

[Kale Lowry]

Honestly, I want one for myself and I'm gonna go to Walgreens and see if we do. Are they sold out everywhere here? No, they're not sold out everywhere here. So if you want, I will go. Yeah, I'll be your plug. I'm your needle plug. Just call. Just call me Kale. Call me your needle plug.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I can't. So I need to tell you something else that I did this weekend that you're going to be like, why did you even start that? Because pollen season hasn't even gotten here.

[Kale Lowry]

But let me just start by before you get into what you did this weekend. When I walked into this content house, the first thing I said to Rebecca was, I didn't hear from Lindsay all weekend.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

That's because I had my pressure washer out. That's why you did not hear from me.

[Kale Lowry]

Lindsay, this is year five of your obsession, your hyper fixation on the pressure washer. I know because Ike is shaking his head behind the scenes. She pressure washes inside her garage.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I have a photo. Look, I actually took a photo so that I could show you when we got on here. Look at how clean. Look at how clean my garage is. I'm not even kidding you.

[Kale Lowry]

Rebecca loved that idea. I want my garage to look like that. But I'm just thinking that the way that my life is set up, it probably won't happen.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

You know those things that like, makes you feel when you're out of control, like so in control. Like if you can do nothing else, like cleaning is kind of free. Like, yeah, you're paying for the water. Like fog it, but I'll pay for the water.

[Kale Lowry]

I have a.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Well, it's kind of free. You know what I mean? And so my porches are going to be next. But I know pollen's coming, so it's gonna have. See, this is how I get in the cycle. That's why the pressure washer never goes away. And it's been like a five year spiral. I know a lot of people wanted follow ups on my Dysons and unfortunately Like, I don't have the chargers, so they're not usable.

[Kale Lowry]

No, but people can buy a charger. Lindsay.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

But, like, the amount of Dysons that I collected from, like, the corner of the walls of my garage this weekend, actually, somebody came over and saw Jackson and I doing this, and they were like.

[Kale Lowry]

No, let me stop you right there. The fact that you said Jackson and I doing this, meaning that your son is participating in your Dyson vacuum, is insane. And I'm gonna come rescue him. Like, I am coming to Atlanta, taking Jackson and showing him a normal household with two vacuums. Okay, we have a vacuum and a downstairs vacuum. And we have a cordless upstairs one. And we have a cordless downstairs one.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Wait, okay, so you know how kids, like, mispronounce words?

[Kale Lowry]

Yes.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Okay, there's a couple that Jackson still, like, can't get. Right, like, ridiculous is one of them.

[Kale Lowry]

Love it.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

The other one is imony and enemy. Yeah, enemy. But Emily. And he's walking around and he says, mom, germs are just your image. Yes, we are. Yes, we are. Also, go shower.

[Kale Lowry]

Actually, go wash the germs off of your body right now. But wait, hold on. Speaking of our children, I take my kids. First of all, Lincoln came up to me was like, can we go to dinner without Lux and Creed? Now, I did make arrangements with Chris's mom to take Lux and Creed that yesterday morning to her house because she wanted to celebrate with them for his birthday. Chris's birthday. So they're gone. Lincoln wants to go to dinner. We get to dinner, and he says, mom, I need to tell you something. And I go, oh, like, what the are you about to say to me? And he said, I think I know why Creed is so spicy. And I said, okay. He said, I was outside. We were all outside. And I didn't see. I was swinging around a baseball bat, and I didn't see Creed, and I cracked him on side of the head. Why don't I know about this? Like, why didn't I know about this? And he said, well, he. He was okay. And I told him if he stopped crying, I would buy him McDonald's.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Wait, that is the definition of siblings. And I know that you didn't grow up with one, but, like, the cardinal rule in the house with people with lots of kids is, like, do not come to me as your parent if you are not bleeding or you do not need to go to the hospital.

[Kale Lowry]

Well, so I said, lincoln, how long have you been keeping that in? And he said, about three years.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Three years? You're like oh, so we're talking brain damage.

[Kale Lowry]

Correct. And I said, Lincoln, here's the thing. I'm glad that he was okay and I'm glad that he was not seriously injured. It must have just been like a graze of the skull.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Just a graze of the skull.

[Kale Lowry]

I never heard this story. I never, never knew anything about it. He didn't have any injuries, he had no marks, he had no nothing. So it couldn't have been as bad as. But I said, Lincoln, I would never want you to stress out and like hold on to this for dear life for years and years and lose sleep over it. I said, you could have told me right away. We could have, you know, evaluated the situation. The situation. But you know, you should probably let me know because in the, in the future, like if you accidentally were to do that harder. And so that was a learning lesson for everybody involved.

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[Lindsay Chrisley]

I just. I don't understand children, and that's probably why I only have one. I never understood them growing up, having younger siblings. One is, like, enough to try to figure out and understand. Okay.

[Kale Lowry]

Yeah.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

And mine is, like, on this level at this point that he's starting to piss me off with, like, the ask. And I know your kids do this to you too. I'm sure. It's like you're asking me to do all of this stuff, and you literally have zero income, zero car, like, zero way to do anything. I. I shit you not. This was last night. So we get home, we're settled. We were, like, on Will's side of town. I told him, I'm like, if you let me get this garage cleaned out and, like, everything pressure wash, I will take you to get wings and you could go play golden tea. And he's like, okay, bet.

[Kale Lowry]

Okay, bet.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

So we go do all this. Why do kids not think, like, if your backpack is at your dad's and your lunchbox is at your dad's and we're three minutes from his house, why

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[Lindsay Chrisley]

I got out of the bath and I get a text of, where's my backpack for school? So I said, in the car. If not, it could be in the house. Unless it's possibly at your dad's. Immediately, he goes, it's at Dad's. I said, I guess I'll have to

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[Lindsay Chrisley]

He said, tomorrow morning. I said, I would prefer to have it tonight. I said, I can go and get it in about 45 minutes. He said, okay. Sorry. I said, have him put it in the garage. Did you ask your dad? He said, yes, he's home. He said, he can do that. I said, do you want to ride with me or for me to just go and grab it? He said, ride with me. Do you now have a driver's license that I'm unaware of?

[Kale Lowry]

Yes.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Like, I'm really sick of kids. And then here's the other thing. Friday night, he was supposed to go to this, like, glow party at the trampoline park from 7 to 9pm so also on the side of town where Will lives. So I tell Jackson, we're gonna come home, you're gonna get your jump socks, you're gonna get the gift, like, all the things. We're gonna, like, decompress for a little while. I'm gonna feed you dinner, Then I will take you and drop you off at said party. Please tell me why. Right before the bus gets dropped, dropped off at Wills. I've already left my house. I get a text from the mom saying that the boys are trying to coordinate a sleepover and she wants everybody at her house that's sleeping over at 5:30. The bus doesn't drop off until 4:45. Mind you, the gift is at my house. His trampoline socks are at my house. This was not the plans. So literally me, I just start bawling my eyes out like a psychopath. I'm like, this, this was not the plan. This is not what I said. We did not discuss a sleepover. I don't like sleepovers. I don't know. These parents, like have never met these parents. Will's like, well, I'm sure it's fine. There's four other boys going, like, what could possibly go wrong? What do you mean what can possibly go wrong?

[Kale Lowry]

Will hasn't listened to enough coffee combos episodes.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

He hasn't. And now that the neato thing is like a thing, kids are putting them in the microwave and they're blowing up on their faces. It's giving about that.

[Kale Lowry]

Yeah. Rebecca's nodding her head. She knew about this.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

It's giving Tide pods.

[Kale Lowry]

Here's the thing for me, I need to know what went wrong in certain people's childhood childhoods to make them think of these things. Right. Like the top, eating the Tide pods, putting neato in the microwave and having it explode on your face. I don't understand what happened to you in your childhood that makes you think that way. Never in my entire almost 34 years of life did I ever think that. Yeah, let me put this toy in the microwave and see what happens.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I mean, the only thing that I can think that I did that was somewhat like mischievous and slightly diabolical was downloading like limewire on my parents computer and giving it a virus.

[Kale Lowry]

Yeah. And that also, I also did that. But that's not the same. Like this is going to be morbid. It's going to get morbid very quickly. But like, maybe borderline psychopath is like people putting their hamsters in the microwave and stuff. Like putting things in the microwave is like psychopathic tendencies. I feel

[Lindsay Chrisley]

never would I ever go to a microwave and be like, you know what? This item that should never be microwaved should go in there.

[Kale Lowry]

Like, imagine we were like, let's just put our skincare in the microwave for funsies and see what happens.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Oh my God. Okay, I do have to tell you something about that. Like I'm on this journey, have been on this journey since mid January. Where was I? Oh, Mexico. Been on this journey of like, cleaning out all of my stuff. Please tell me why. And this is like the hoarder mentality in me. Please tell me why. I clean it out and then I like leave it in a box and it's like, okay, if I don't touch it for 30 days, then I'll like really throw it away. Please tell me why I keep going back to that box. And it's not that I'm using it. It's like, because I'm missing it on my counter that's not being used. Is that a mental illness?

[Kale Lowry]

Yeah. And Rebecca is. Rebecca's a lot like you. Like, very, like, clean, organized. Like that's her bread and butter. And so yes, she's saying that is a mental illness. I would also argue that it is. But I also have this thing with my. In my bathroom, I have like this like shelving thing on my vanity. There are products on there sitting on top of my vanity, on this shelf, on this display shelf that I have not touched, opened, looked at for about two years. And I can't part with it because I spent the money on it. So I have to use it at some point. I have to use it.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

You're giving like, yee haw. Memaw on tick tock. Have you watched her?

[Kale Lowry]

I've never even heard of her.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Oh my gosh. Yeehaw. Meemaw is so funny. I was watching her like clean out her bathroom drawers and she had like all this stuff in boxes. I mean, when I tell you it was like an entire room of like boxed of like, products, and she was going through it and she was like, I need to get rid of some of this stuff. But then I look at it and it's like, well, I got this like 10 years ago and I might scrunch my hair at some point. So like, I need to keep it. What mentally goes through our mind in the process of like, we purchased these things and we're not going to use them, but we're going to keep them because we paid for them.

[Kale Lowry]

I don't know.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

But it's like Dysons.

[Kale Lowry]

Yeah, it's like you with the Dysons. It's like me with just bathroom products. I literally told Ike he couldn't buy more cocoa butter because we needed to finish lotion that we already have. As if he wants to smell like something from Bath and Body Works five years ago.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

You're like, cucumber is what you've got. Oh my God.

[Kale Lowry]

He's like, I'm out of cocoa butter. I'm like, great. Use this love bomb from Bath and Body Works that I got for Christmas six years ago. Love spell from Victoria's Secret from high school. Use it.

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[Lindsay Chrisley]

It's so crazy.

[Kale Lowry]

Use it.

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I am like that.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

But at the same time, I will get pissed off if somebody opens. Okay, like, I have one tube of toothpaste in my bathroom. Okay, no, not just, like, in my bathroom. I have, like, extras, but one open. Yeah, if somebody goes in my bathroom and they can't find where I put that tube of toothpaste and they go and try and brush their teeth and they open another tube of toothpaste, all hell will break loose here. Like, I don't like multiple open products at one time.

[Kale Lowry]

Okay, well, don't come to Lowryland, because I opened two tubes of toothpaste last night for Ike to have his own and for me to have my own. And then Ike also has a second separate toothbrush in the shower with a separate additional tube of toothpaste in there as well. I don't prefer to brush my teeth in the shower, so that's not for me.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I was about to ask why I do it.

[Kale Lowry]

This is a mess, and I don't like spinning into the drain. It's just. I would rather brush my teeth at the sink. So we each have toothbrushes at the sink, each have our own tube of toothpaste at the sink, and then he has his shower one as well.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

See, every day of my life, my morning shower, like, requires me to brush my teeth in the shower. And if I don't brush my teeth in the shower, I feel like I did something wrong.

[Kale Lowry]

Interesting. I just brush my teeth at the sink.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

But, like, what is it of spitting down a drain different than spitting down a drain in a sink.

[Kale Lowry]

I just feel like being naked makes it feel weird. And then also, like, if I'm brushing my teeth in the shower and it just drips everywhere, and then it goes down my body like it does to Ike.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I'm like, so you're trying to have sex appeal is what you're telling me?

[Kale Lowry]

No, I don't want sex appeal. I just. He'll wash his body and then brush his teeth and make a mess. And I'm like, for that, you should have brushed your teeth first and then washed your body, because now you have toothbrush remnants and toothpaste dripping into your beard.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I do need to ask you this. Like, the reusing of the towels. How many times do you reuse a towel.

[Kale Lowry]

Used to. Every day for like a week now. Never.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Okay, so you wash it every time after?

[Kale Lowry]

Yeah, used to. It was like, okay, well I'm coming out of the shower clean, so why would I wash it if I'm clean and I'm just drying off? But now I every. After every single use. I don't know why.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Logically, what you just said makes like logical sense in my pea brain. What doesn't make sense to me is like, when you deeply think about it, it's like, yes, I just washed all of my crevices and then I get out. I always put the towel to my face first. But then also I'm like in my hoo. Ha. I'm in my butt crack. Like I'm everywhere with that thing. So if you hang it, you don't know where you stopped and started from, like the face to the ass.

[Kale Lowry]

Right, right, right, right.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

You know, so. So they just have to be washed. And speaking of that, I've got to go to Sam's club today and I just need everyone to know that's listening to this. If you ever need somebody to go to Sam's with you, call me.

[Kale Lowry]

I need a Sam's membership. No, you don't. I have one. Oh, no, I don't. Rebecca has one.

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[Lindsay Chrisley]

Completely unrelated. But have you started watching the new JFK doc?

[Kale Lowry]

No, I didn't even know there was one.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I don't even know what stream it's on. But there is a new JFK doc. I'll make sure I find it and, and post like where you guys can watch it. But it's pretty good. I think it's like five episodes in total. And I just want to say, like, where are the men like that in this world?

[Kale Lowry]

Wait, so was he a good guy?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

From. From what I watch, I've only watched one episode. But from what I have watched, I'm like, where did like men stop and start like that? Like, where did they just like fall off?

[Kale Lowry]

I don't. I'M gonna be so honest with you. I don't know anything about the Kennedys outside of Marilyn Monroe having a potential alleged relations with one of the Kennedys and then also one of the other Kennedys having a lobotomy. I don't know anything else about the Kennedys whatsoever.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

You know what? I forgot about the lobotomy. But Will's regularly referred to the Kennedys with the lobotomy, and he's like, you need to go get a lobotomy. I don't even know what lobotomy is. I thought that was, like, the same thing as the Emina.

[Kale Lowry]

An enema.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah, an enema.

[Kale Lowry]

No, an enema goes up your butt, and a lobotomy is in your brain. So we're two different directions. A lobotomy is what Doctors and scientists, I guess, thought that they were helping people. A lot of times in the 50s and around that time period, men were in control of their wives medical say. And so men could go to the doctor and say, she needs a lobotomy, and they would snip the frontal lobe. If I remember correctly, they're snipping the frontal lobe away from other parts of the brain. And it is. It was supposed to calm them down and make them complicit.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Oh, see, I didn't want to live in that lifetime.

[Kale Lowry]

The problem was that it was, I think, making things worse than it was making them better.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

That's so crazy. So why did one of the Kennedys, like, get a lobotomy?

[Kale Lowry]

If I remember, people will be able to correct us if I'm wrong, but I want to say one of the sisters was. Because there was, like, six or seven Kennedys. Is that right?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I feel like there's a lot of them.

[Kale Lowry]

So one of the siblings had either disability or special needs of some sort, and they thought the lobotomy would help, but it just essentially made things worse.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

So you're saying, like, back in that time, they. A man could just take a woman to a doctor and be like, snipper brain.

[Kale Lowry]

Correct. And you're basically just, like, digging around in there and hoping for the best

[Lindsay Chrisley]

that time period, like brain soup. Wait, is that Madison? In our chat, she said, it's so good, it's on Hulu.

[Kale Lowry]

What's so good?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

The JFK talk.

[Kale Lowry]

Oh, I thought you meant a lobotomy.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

So, Mike, we both need one.

[Kale Lowry]

Go read the Mad Wife. It's also on Kindle. If you have a Kindle, read the Mad Wife. It's really. It's about a housewife in the 1950s. You need to read it. It's insane.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Is that where you learned all of this information?

[Kale Lowry]

Yeah.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

You're just like a plethora of knowledge today.

[Kale Lowry]

Just call me book girl. Kale.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Oh, my God. Wait, did you feel like you were dead whenever we came back from Texas?

[Kale Lowry]

I feel like I'm dead every day. I'm dead inside.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Well, do you want me to tell you what I was doing right before we got on this recording?

[Kale Lowry]

Yeah, I do.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Okay. I was trying to find this candle that was in the steakhouse bathroom of where we went in Texas so that my house could smell like this.

[Kale Lowry]

What is the scent of it?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

It says snow filled dreams.

[Kale Lowry]

Well, I have good news for you.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

What?

[Kale Lowry]

You. I could send you a new baby daddy burnout candle.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Listen, if anybody is burned out on their baby daddy in this current moment, it's me.

[Kale Lowry]

It's right here.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I'm right here because please tell me why. I'm not gonna say who it is, but we all know who it is. It's my baby daddy. Not the one that claimed that he was my baby daddy, but, like, the actual baby daddy. Please tell me why he said, I haven't done anything for myself all week and I'm gonna enjoy my time at the golf course. Sir, I just saw you on Instagram and you were. You were golfing while you were on a work trip.

[Kale Lowry]

How does that work for taxes? Like, is the golfing a write off then? If it's a work trip, was it a team building experience?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I don't like me talking taxes personally.

[Kale Lowry]

What'd you say?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I said personally. Me, myself does not need to be talking about taxes. I need to give nobody tax advice.

[Kale Lowry]

That's why we have an accountant.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yes, we have the same accountant.

[Kale Lowry]

Actually.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I'm going to assume that since maybe it would be booked by the company and you would be playing with your colleagues, that it's probably a write off, but irregardless, regardless. I don't know which one it is.

[Kale Lowry]

It's regardless. Irregardless is not actually a word. Or at least it wasn't. It might be now.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Regardless, you just lied to my face because I just saw you golfing on Instagram and now you're lying.

[Kale Lowry]

Let me tell Will. First of all, I follow Will on Instagram and I do creep on him and I just send, like, emojis sometimes to his stories because I. They don't make sense to me. And I fully understand why you were with each other because y' all both do that. Like, what the fuck is this story? I don't know what I'm looking at, but it's highly entertaining. I took a week off for my birthday and then immediately booked work for my birthday. So that is the definition of not doing something for myself. You know, Will, like, if you're listening to this Willard, that is not you going golfing and then coming back and saying you haven't done anything for yourself. Is not that.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

It's just like, it's not giving that you haven't been catering to yourself. Like, oh, wait, wait.

[Kale Lowry]

I have to ask you this. Okay, look me right here in the eyes. Who gives life, men or women?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Women.

[Kale Lowry]

I'm sorry, repeat that one more time. Okay, I was just wondering because somebody in this room told me that men give life.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

And.

[Kale Lowry]

And I almost kicked him in the nuts.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

See, that's just like a slippery slope. And I, like the person that I know said this. And remember how you said rage bait when we were in Dallas? Yeah. It's making me feel like it's rage bait.

[Kale Lowry]

Has to be, because me and Elliot are sitting on the couch yesterday, full on, arguing with this man because I said, okay, if a man impregnates a woman, that is already you're going havesies, right? Like, you're already 50. 50. So now you put it on a scale of 100. If that man dies after impregnating someone, the woman would still, in theory, carry the baby all the way, full term, give birth, giving life. Okay, baby is still here. If the woman chooses to terminate, or if the woman passes away unexpectedly, there is no life. At that point, the baby would, in theory, pass away with the mother who gives life, Life goes on without the dad. Life does not go on without the mom. So dad and mom initiate life, but woman, the mom brings life.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

And maybe this is a question that I should be asking Ike, but like, what do you mean gives life when you could literally be a two pump chomp in theory. If we're just, you know, hypotheticaling this, you could be a two pump chump, get somebody pregnant, and it's entirely like her responsibility to carry the baby, birth the baby. She's likely in this hypothetical situation, not leaving the baby.

[Kale Lowry]

When I tell you I almost threw my phone at him. I just was ready to rage.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Truly, like, my biggest argument in divorce, I'm like, this is my baby. And like, obviously I know that that is a lie. Okay, I know this. Maybe I was rage baiting Will at the time, but it's like, this is my baby. I struggled, I birthed him, I carried him. I have taken care of him. He sucked on my tit. Like, what did you do? We're, we're now walking this all the way back to like 2017 coffee combos. You sat there basketball shorts and you acted like you did something.

[Kale Lowry]

That's literally what I if you ask Lincoln today what did your dad do while you were being born, he will say he sat there in basketball shorts. Yes, that's what you did. You literally provided nothing.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

It was like three strokes and that was your obligation.

[Kale Lowry]

That's all, folks.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Folks. All right, y'. All.

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[Lindsay Chrisley]

What is this of this scary man in North Dakota that you sent me? Like, okay, so is this a mug shot? Because it almost looks like

[Kale Lowry]

we'll post it on the story so that you guys will post it on social so you guys can read about what it is. But I took a screenshot of this man and it says North Dakota Republican Senator. Or I'll just say Senator. I don't need to say Republican because it's not really about. It's not about the politic part of it. North Dakota Senator Ray Holmberg has been sentenced to 10 years in prison for traveling abroad 14 times to sexually abuse children. And so let me go see.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Was he part of the Epstein files?

[Kale Lowry]

I don't know. When confronted about the messages, bragging about sex with boys as young as 12 years old Judge that he was just bragging to impress people. He also catfished a 16 year old Canadian boy online by posing as a teenager and that boy later killed himself. He later took his own life. I don't know which way to how they'll edit that. He did resign in 2022 after a newspaper exposed his text with a man jailed on child sex abuse material.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I'm just actually at a loss of words. 37 months.

[Kale Lowry]

So it says I googled his name separately from that. Like I had seen that specifically on my feed so I googled it and then this one says trans. He was transferred to federal prison in Minnesota. And I don't know, like I just, I find it really weird because especially with like the Epstein files that are happening and a lot of like high profile people being attached to the Epstein files. Like this doesn't surprise me but it's absolutely disgusting and appalling because these are how do we vet people that are in charge of our government better? Because obviously we wouldn't have known until we knew. Does that make sense?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I know, and that's what's so scary. Remember when I told you that I went down like a slippery slope of Googling, like the sex offenders list, like, around. Do you remember that?

[Kale Lowry]

No.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Oh, yeah. Like, this was during, like the time that I was having, like the major intrusive thoughts where I would drive on, like the shoulder of the highway time. Okay. I would just Google areas that I was in and like, see what sex offenders were that were around. And the amount that like pop up, you would be mind blown.

[Kale Lowry]

But the up part is like, that's just the tip of the iceberg. That doesn't show us all the people who still have not been convicted or charged or caught. And so if there are that many convicted ones, imagine how many are going on under the radar.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Have you ever seen the Gulf Coast Stapletons on Tick Tock?

[Kale Lowry]

No. Is that. Are those. Are they people?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah. So I think they. They used to live, like, not. I know he used to live, like, not far from where I live and at some point relocated to Florida, started this whole like, Tick Tock channel. Kind of blew up on Tick Tock. And then he was charged with all this child pornography and stuff on his devices. He's currently in prison. She's out, still runs the account. And I'm just like, obviously she didn't do anything. But what is with people that are around these people that are doing stuff like this? Like, what is their obligation to do something about it?

[Kale Lowry]

Like, you mean like loved ones or friends?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah, I mean, because now I'm thinking like, Josh Duggar, the Gulf. I think his name's Kyle Stapleton. I think is what his name is.

[Kale Lowry]

I don't know, because I feel like sex offenders or even like child predators and things like that. Like, to me there's no room for like. Like, I really do try to have empathy for people and I try to not judge people right off. Yeah, yeah. Like, but for specifically sex offenses and child assault. Child sexual assault, anything in. In that realm, I just don't have. There wouldn't be any love. Like, that would not even be a situation for me where I'm loving that person from a distance. I no longer associate with you. I no longer love you in any capacity. That is just not. That's not something that I could be around, you know, someone who was formerly convicted of that and just basically be like, you know, I don't know what my obligation is here. Do I run the. Or do I still help them with? Like, I'm never That's not something I would ever do.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

What do you think about the Internet and like the lack of federal restriction on these chat rooms and like apps and stuff like that where these predators can get in, obviously like this man be able to get into. Be able to Catfish a 16 year old boy.

[Kale Lowry]

I don't know. And it's crazy that we're focusing more on AI for. To make things easier, more accessible. More accessible, more. It's supposed to be a tool. But like, don't you think that we should focus on getting Internet predators off the Internet first? Like, don't you think that would be a higher priority than chat GPT? Like, I don't. It doesn't make sense to me that we have all of this technology to advance certain aspects of our lives and society and the economy, but we don't have the technology to make it safer. Yeah, like to make it safer. It just doesn't make sense to me. It's like the priorities are up 1,000%.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

You know what I was thinking when I was watching Tik Tok? I think it was last. Yeah. Jackson and I were laying watching Tik Tok last night. He was like, you and Kale should go in a wayo. Y' all would freak out.

[Kale Lowry]

Oh yeah, I would. I would. When I saw them for the first time, either I think it was last year. No, I think it was the year before last. It was whenever I went to Arizona and I saw them for the first time, I was like, what the is that? Like, that's insane.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Can you just imagine? Just like us, number one, we have no self control between the two of us, period. But like us being in a vehicle with it driving with no one driving it.

[Kale Lowry]

So Elliot just did first of all, just shout out to my son. He was invited to apply for the National Honor Society. And so we were working on that over the weekend. But before, before we started working on that yesterday, he showed me his research paper and he did his research paper for, I believe English on distracted driving. And one of the points that he made was that technology is supposed to like, with technology and like Autopilot. I think Tesla has like Autopilot or like hands free. And then I think he referenced one other vehicle that had like road assist where you. It's like hands free. And his point was that they're actually more dangerous for distracted drivers because people will do riskier things behind the wheel if they think the car is driving for them. And I've heard horror stories about the Waymos or the Wagos or whatever the they're called not a wago because if something happens, what are you supposed to do?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I don't know. So I was connected to somebody in the past and when I say past, like as of the last three weeks, connected to oh friend. Had this friend that went out to the bars, which shocker there went out to the bars, gotten his self driving Tesla and it drove off a cliff. And I'm like, who's responsible for that? The idiot that got in there drunk or is it Tesla?

[Kale Lowry]

Wait, this person's Tesla like that you're described?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yes,

[Kale Lowry]

Lindsay, you can't say that somebody's Tesla drove them off a cliff and then leave no context on what kind of cliff this was. Like it was like a cliff that's like a curb or like a cliff,

[Lindsay Chrisley]

like, like a tiny mountain cliff. Like we're not talking like a curb. Like it like went down. Like went down. And so I need to know like who is the responsible party? The person that was the person responsible for going out to the bars, drinking and getting in a self driving vehicle. Like was that responsible or to me I'm just like, you're an idiot. Like why would you ever put yourself in a self driving vehicle in a drunken state like that? And you can't course correct.

[Kale Lowry]

Well, my first question is, was is it drunk driving if you're not technically the one driving the car is driving itself. But then on the flip side of that is like if it, if you are operating the vehicle in any capacity, you are then drunk driving. So that's concerning. But that would be. You know what, it's very kill esque for me to say that I would attempt a lawsuit.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Oh, I know that if that was you, you would be suing Tesla. If that was me, I would be like, what the was I thinking?

[Kale Lowry]

Yeah,

[Lindsay Chrisley]

You're Tesla. I already know what you're doing. You're suing.

[Kale Lowry]

Yeah, I'm suing Tesla. But I also would never support Tesla either. So.

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[Lindsay Chrisley]

Okay, what is this other that you're sending me about ice cream in the Netherlands made with painkillers to cure headaches? Okay.

[Kale Lowry]

Okay. We can't believe everything that we see on the Internet. Okay. We don't always believe it at first

[Lindsay Chrisley]

glance, but yeah, because somebody could be cheating on you and it's AI. Okay. So no, carry on.

[Kale Lowry]

I can't. When you just dropped a bomb like that on me. I can't.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

It's AI.

[Kale Lowry]

This could be AI. I don't know. But it says that there is an ice cream in the Netherlands made with painkillers to cure headaches and I just can't imagine that if that were true how good that would be. Because if it has painkillers in it, I mean, I don't know if you've ever like gone to take a pill when you're sick and then it just gets stuck in your on your tongue and it's just disgusting and you almost throw up. That is how the ice cream, I imagine the ice cream would taste.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

That's just such a slippery slope for me. We know that I don't like pills Anyway, but I'm like, going down this deep rabbit hole of technicality. How do you know exactly how much you're getting perfect part of the serving if you don't know if it's like, evenly distributed within the ice cream? So that's immediately going to be a no for me. Am I shocked that would be going on in another country? No. Am I shocked what's going on in the United States ever?

[Kale Lowry]

No.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I just can't eat ice cream. Try to eat ice cream. Not too long ago myself.

[Kale Lowry]

So, yeah, I'm not. I'm not really big on ice cream. I've never really been a big ice cream girly.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I love ice cream so much. And do we think that, like, this is a real thing? That when you realize that you can't have something, you want it more?

[Kale Lowry]

Yes.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

And I'm not talking, like, food.

[Kale Lowry]

Oh, life. Yeah.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I'm talking like, okay, I want to have a life partner and possibly have another baby. And it like, makes me want another baby more because I don't have it than the reality of, like, maybe wanting it. You know what I mean?

[Kale Lowry]

Yeah. Like, the idea always sounds good and then it's not. It's like, post not clarity. Girls have it too. You know, it's like, oh, I have baby fever so bad. And then you have sex. You orgasm. You realize you're ovulating, but he pulled out in time. And then you're like, on second thought, I actually want a baby. It just sounds good.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

That is so true. It's like, oh, we're waiting for the period to come and it's like. And we know that we've all been there. I've definitely been there with Kale where I've text her, oh, got my period. Thank God.

[Kale Lowry]

Yeah. And it's like in the making of the Phantom Child, it sounds like a great idea until you're all said and done. You're like, wow, that was great. Thank you so much. I actually don't want to be up in the middle of the night taking care of a crying child. Yeah.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I also need to call you out on something.

[Kale Lowry]

What?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

This is what I received On Saturday at 9:26pm from Kale. Lindsay, would you ever sell feet picks? Like there was no other conversation? Like, yes, we. Oh, I must have missed it. I must have missed the text on Friday because I was getting all my out of my garage. Probably need to respond to that. Seems important. Lindsay, wouldn't clever sell feet pick. I said, why are you asking me that? I need context to why you would be Selling feet picks. I'm just asking in general. Depends on how much they make, to be honest. Okay. I've seen a lot of people on Tick Tock as of late from only fans, where they're talking, like, millions and millions and millions and millions of dollars. Did we do something wrong?

[Kale Lowry]

Yeah, we did. We. We don't have Tory Burch sandals, and we didn't do the feet picks. That's.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Is that why somebody asked me on my Instagram story for Tory Burch sandals? Like, is Tory Burch sandals a fetish?

[Kale Lowry]

No. Probably just for that one person.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Then why did you just say Tory Burch? Do you have the same fetish?

[Kale Lowry]

No, that same guy reached out to me.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Oh. He wants us both to have a pair of Tory Burch sandals.

[Kale Lowry]

Yeah. And he said he would buy them for us.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

But, like, what do you. What do they do with them? Sniff them? Like.

[Kale Lowry]

No, they look at their. They look at our feet in the Tory Burch sandals, and that is what turns them on.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

So do we send them the sandals?

[Kale Lowry]

No, that. He wants to send us Tory Burch sandals.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

So are we doing it?

[Kale Lowry]

Listen, I don't know if I'm actually cut out for the feet life. I think that I don't really want to put my feet in mashed potatoes. I think it's. It's kind of like post not clarity, where it sounds good and then it's not good. I don't feel like. I don't feel like actually putting in the work for feet picks. Do you know what I mean?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I mean, it just depends on how much it's bringing, you know? Like, of course.

[Kale Lowry]

Of course.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

If you want me to stomp around mashed potatoes because you're paying me hundreds of dollars, then load up.

[Kale Lowry]

You're like, do you want them loaded mashed potatoes, or do you want just, like, a baked potato and we're mashing them with our feet?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

And you know what? This could be a good, like, side gig. For every six weeks, when I come there, we can do a bunch of, like, feet content. Really get it going.

[Kale Lowry]

Yeah.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

And do you remember that when I come in April, Becky has to teach us how to scissor?

[Kale Lowry]

Wow. I forgot about that. She's going to be really excited about that.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

So I think that we should take this guy up. If we can find a PO Box Box to send the Tory Burch sandals to.

[Kale Lowry]

Becky has a P.O. box.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

So we send the Tory Burch sandals to Becky's p. O. Box, and then we take a bunch of feet content after Becky teaches us how to scissor. We'll make millions, period. Just make sure your toes are done.

[Kale Lowry]

Oh, yeah. Always have to have a fresh pedicure. Always.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Do you feel like feet? Content creators make millions of dollars.

[Kale Lowry]

I don't know if it's in the millions. I feel like it depends how long they've been doing it, what their clientele is. Because I don't know where to find people with a foot fetish. Like, I don't know if that's, like, an only fans thing. I don't know if that's like a, you know, like. Have you ever given a foot job?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

A what?

[Kale Lowry]

A foot job.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

No, but by the way you're saying, it sounds like you have.

[Kale Lowry]

I have.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

What is that?

[Kale Lowry]

It's like this. Hold on, let me back this up. You just, like, put the. The in between.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Oh, you put the dick in between. But how do you do that? Because you have such high arches.

[Kale Lowry]

Well, that's what makes it special.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Wait, do that again. Let me see. Like, so you're. Where is he? Oh, he's in the front. This way. So the dick's poking towards you. The head's that way. Okay.

[Kale Lowry]

Yeah.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

And then how long is it taking? Like, that's a whole.

[Kale Lowry]

I got a good 30 seconds in me before my legs start to burn.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

It's so casual. There's, like, a foot job.

[Kale Lowry]

I just wanted to see if I could do it. It's not like he asked for it. I was just, like, playing around because, you know, like, when you're in a relationship, you, like, grab their butt or, like, do their nipples. And, like, it was just one of those, like, moments where I was like, he's standing there, and I go, hold on a second.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

It's like that moment when I was in college and Will was, like, begging for a bj, and I'm like, I'm just. This can't.

[Kale Lowry]

You're like, I don't. That's a lot of work.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

And it's just like, also, I'm showered and, like, booked in, busy, ready to go to bed, Like, I'm not doing this. And I said, fine, if you go and get the yogurt out of the refrigerator and you dip your dick in it and show me how committed you are to being committed to me doing this, that I'll do it. And he did it.

[Kale Lowry]

Wait, he put his dick in yogurt? Yeah, that's how bad. Fired from this corporate job after this. So just beware.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

That's how bad you wanted it. And I was like, you know what? Fine. Like, Now I have yogurt dick on the side of my face. Like, it's like, you just.

[Kale Lowry]

You need to show that you're committed for me to actually do this. Because it is truly diabolical when you think about putting someone's genitals in your mouth.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

It really is. And I have had multiple conversations with people, and it's like, you can use a condom and put a dick in you, right? And it's like, okay, goodbye. Sucking someone's dick, that's a whole different ball game. Like, are we getting engaged soon? Like, what's happening? Because that's, that's just like, not really what I'm signing up for.

[Kale Lowry]

No, truly. Because if you think about the sweat that's down there, the fact that they, like, pee out of it, the fact that when they sit on the toilet, the dick hangs inside. Like, there's so, like, jock itch. Like, there's pubes. Like, there's just so many factors. And it's like. Like, are we getting engaged? Because if we're not, then I have no reason to do this. Like, there's literal, no reason in, like,

[Lindsay Chrisley]

for me to have it on my conscience that I have sucked your dick. And we did not get engaged. No, sir.

[Kale Lowry]

No, sir.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Like, it's just not happening. And I was, okay, so we didn't really talk about sex in my growing up years. The boys did, but I'm pretty sure my dad never talked about it to me or my sister at all. It's just kind of like, don't have sex. And we're not going to talk about it. But I was always told, like, once you suck somebody's dick, like, it needs to be your husband.

[Kale Lowry]

I regularly think about the fact that, like, that's even a. Like, who discovered oral sex? Like, who decided because, like, just human nature to, like, want to have sex, right? Like, there's like. Like, we just have known since the beginning of time that two bodies, you know, can go together and have sex. But, like, who, When.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Who did or who just, like, discovered that you suck a dick and you lick a. Like, I don't.

[Kale Lowry]

No, because I read a book about the 15 and 1600s.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

And you learned about the lobotomy?

[Kale Lowry]

No, a different one. And so, like, they were having a mistress all the way back in the 15 and 1600s. And that was very common, very typical, whatever. But, like, did a man just decide that, like, I'm actually not gonna stick it in this hole inside your body. I actually want you to put your mouth on it. Like, I just. Like, where where was that idea? Where did it come from?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

We need to do some research.

[Kale Lowry]

We do. Like, we really do.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I'm gonna ask a bunch of people that are gonna be like, never talk to me again, which is fine.

[Kale Lowry]

We need a sexpert.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

We should. We should have a. A sexpert.

[Kale Lowry]

Madison said oral sex was not invented by any single person, but is an ancient natural behavior observed in humans primates like bonobos and other mammals. As a behavioral prehistorical activity, it produces predates recorded history with evidence found in ancient Greek, Hebrew, and Indian texts. So, like, were cavemen and Neanderthals doing oral?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

That's what it sounds like. It sounds like it's been around for all of time.

[Kale Lowry]

That's a wild.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I kind of thought it was, like, a new thing, you know? Like, not new, but modern. Yeah, like, kind of like modern. Like, oh, suck my dick.

[Kale Lowry]

Like, you couldn't picture housewives in, like, the 40s doing oral.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

No, but I bet you they did, which is weird. Do you ever think about that? Like, you just see some. Somebody, like, old, and you're like, there is no way somebody ever sucked his stick before.

[Kale Lowry]

Madison said, can you imagine sucking dick in the 1920s? So specifically, in 1921, they were just sucking dick.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I don't want to imagine it in 2026, let alone the 1920s.

[Kale Lowry]

I think it's, like, weirder, because when you think about us, our kids age. Like, when I think about when I was 12 years old, my mom looked old. Like, to me, like, the. The style was old. Do you know what I'm saying? It was like, the short haircuts and, like, you looked like a mother. Like, you looked like. It wasn't like today how we look like our kids, siblings. You know what I mean? And so I just. Just envisioning, like, the moms of my childhood.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Like, the moms of our childhood had, like, the short hair and, like, frosted tips and stuff. It's like, can you imagine that on knees?

[Kale Lowry]

Not at all. Not at all, not at all.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Not at all. But, like, a man doesn't have a conscience. You know what I mean? So it's like they're thinking with their tiny head, not their big one.

[Kale Lowry]

I don't think they have any brain cells in their big one.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Wait, can I tell you this one thing before we do foul play?

[Kale Lowry]

What?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

So this is just. It truly was like, a Jessica Simpson moment. I was dating somebody, and this was not too, too terribly long ago. Like, within the last, like, three years, I was dating this person.

[Kale Lowry]

Okay?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

And we were laying in the bed. And his dick was moving, like, up and down like this. It was like, beep. And I was like, why is your dick doing that?

[Kale Lowry]

I think he was trying to give a hint.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Oh, yeah, it was definitely for a hint. And it's like, okay, I'm going to bed, as I typically do. So all of a sudden I go, that makes so much sense. Like, why they call it brain? Because a dick has brains. I had to look up. I thought that, like, the reason that a dick would go, like, up and down like that was because it had some type of brain in there. You know what I mean?

[Kale Lowry]

No.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

How does it go like that?

[Kale Lowry]

Because it's a muscle. The same way I can flex my boob is the same way they can flex their dick.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Oh, I can kind of do that too.

[Kale Lowry]

Yeah. I can flex like a dick.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Just seems like a weird thing to flex. You know what I mean?

[Kale Lowry]

Yeah. And it's like, what's the point? Like, what? Why can you do that?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Like, why is that the same thing as, like, a kegel, but, like, on the outside?

[Kale Lowry]

Yeah, I would guess. I would guess so. I would guess so.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

A. A dick bouncing is like a kegel on the inside for us.

[Kale Lowry]

Yes.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Are you Kegeling right now?

[Kale Lowry]

Yeah, I did kegel just to see if, like, there was an out. Like, could you notice from the outside? But no, you can't.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I can't. We've gotta. We've got to do foul play. And if I get asked about divorce one more time during this episode, I'm gonna lose my mind.

[Kale Lowry]

Just throw your phone.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

If it wasn't new, I would.

[Kale Lowry]

Hi, ladies. I wanted to share for a while now, but still so embarrassing. I may take the cake for this one. Everyone knows how constipation while pregnant go. Well, baby number seven did it for me big time. All the prenatals constipate you. And I had not taken a po. A poop in three weeks.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

K, is this you?

[Kale Lowry]

No. It had to have been me writing this in, because this is. I can relate. So I was taking stool softener fiber gummies for three days in a row to try to get my body to go. Nothing was happening. So I added Miralax. That took. Oh. So I added Miralax. Took it three times. Still nothing. I was driving to school, pickup, feeling fine. I got in line. My stomach started hurting. I called my mom. First word out of my mouth. Mouth was, I have to. I have to. Later, it became to the point where I started sweating and shaking. Pool doors are locked until the kids Come out. And I was three minutes from the kids getting out of school. There was no way I'd be able to get out of my car or drive somewhere to. So I'm sitting there and just. It just starts leaking out of me. Literally. Liquid. I had just gotten a brand new Yukon, but what this. Because I literally drive a Yukon. I had just gotten this brand new Yukon but it was thankfully very dirty due to it being winter and I live on a dirt road. So I remembered that my son had swimming lessons that morning. And I had towels in the back. I was looking for baby wipes. Baby wipes. But being a new car, I had still yet to set it up with all the things I. All I had was buffalo wild wing wipes. The ones you use to wipe your hands after you eat wings.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Burn your.

[Kale Lowry]

No, truly, crawl my pregnant ass into the back of the car. I still have to. I found a plastic bag. I pulled down my shitty pants and in the school pickup line in the back of the freaking Yukon and shit my brains out in this plastic bag. Then try to clean myself up with the stupid little wipes from Buffalo wild wings. I end up using one of the towels just to clean myself up anyways. And I use the other towel to wrap around myself as I'm trying to crawl into the driver's seat. Open up the kids. Open up the door. And asking very loudly, where are your pants? I yelled, shut the door. Crawl my ass to the front seat. And had a great time cleaning it all up. Afterwards, I called my husband who is in law enforcement and knows what it's like to almost yourself. He had great sympathy in the moment, but then the next weekend told his family what happened. We all died laughing. You have to laugh at moments like this. Nothing compares to pregnant. Nothing compares to pregnancy. Con Constipation. Thank you for listening. I just want to say before I had my. No, no. Before I had my literal Yukon, this exact same story happened to me in my Suburban and I didn't have anything but a Wawa bag. So I fully resonate with this story. And I was in the school pickup line right over there in Smyrna.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I will tell you this is very rarely ever happened to me, but it has happened. Like when you have the urge to go and you ever have dealt with constipation, I definitely deal with it. I don't think I'm like a regular person. I poop like once every five days regularly. But when you get that urge to go, it's like nothing's nothing stopping you. Like I Have to stop somewhere. Like, it might be the Bojangles. It might be the Walgreens. Like, oh, Madison says she poops every day.

[Kale Lowry]

It must be nice to be God's favorite. Oh, Rebecca said she does too. I know Ike does. He shits like three times.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

How do you get that regular?

[Kale Lowry]

The problem for me is that when I do finally go, there's no holding it. So I cannot. It doesn't matter. And, like, my worst fear is, like. Like, I'm gonna be with someone, like, in public. Whether it's Ike or someone else, poor Rebecca would probably wouldn't know what to do. You, like, if I say I have to go, there's no holding it. So, like, I don't. I'm scared because there is going to come a time where I myself with other people that are not my children.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

That's devastating.

[Kale Lowry]

I did. But I'll. I'll end on this note. I did make Ike drive over the median to get me to a bathroom on the other side of the road.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Did it crash your car?

[Kale Lowry]

No, he drives a Jeep.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

So he just bounced over the median.

[Kale Lowry]

You need to go right over that median immediately. Right now. All over your front seat.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

He was like, I am not risking the Jeep. I will be driving right over the median. I do not care if my car tires pop.

[Kale Lowry]

Correct.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Can you imagine? Like, that would be your luck. He drives over the median, car tires pop. Like, literally blow out. And then you blow out. Thank you guys for always supporting our show. Please subscribe and review on the Apple podcast app, follow and rate on Spotify or listen wherever you get your pods. For our latest merch, visit CoffeeCombost Podcast.com to shop. Full video episodes are available on Kale's [e-mail] Kale Lowry. Don't forget to follow us on don't forget to follow us on Instagram and join our Facebook group to connect with us and our community. We hope you guys have. We hope you guys have a great week and we'll talk to you soon.

[Kale Lowry]

See ya.

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