Red Flag or Just January?

Summary

Episode Overview

Title: Red Flag or Just January?
Podcast: Coffee Convos with Kail Lowry and Lindsie Chrisley
Date: January 19, 2026
Theme: The episode revolves around the challenges, changes, and humorous moments of starting a new year. Kail and Lindsie share honest reflections on their lives, relationships, and parenting, while also taking part in a lightning round of “Red Flag or Just January?” to poke fun at new year behaviors.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. New Year, New Illness: Coping with COVID, Steroids, and Health Gadgets

• Kail's Experience with Illness
  • Kail shares her recent sickness, being "steroided up" after high fevers, and how COVID and flu have affected their families (00:35).
  • Quote (Kail, 00:35): "I am here and steroided up."
• Gadgets for Self-Care:
  • Kail and Lindsie discuss the "jiggler" (a vibration plate exercise device). It’s touted for digestion, flexibility, and muscle recovery, not as a workout replacement (04:05–05:14).
  • They joke about Squatty Potties and smart scales as staples of their health routines (06:13–06:29).
  • Quote (Lindsie, 06:24): "Was it. Did it work? Was it helpful?"
  • Kail: "Yeah, it was really helpful."

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2. Sports, Parenting, and Kids’ Activities

• Favorite Sports & Parenting Strategies
  • They discuss the popularity of sporting events, with basketball and soccer as favorites (01:50–02:20).
  • One-on-one time with their kids: Kail notes the luxury of having only one child for easy quality time, while Lindsie talks about scheduling individual moments with each of hers (02:44–03:19).
  • Quote (Kail, 02:44): "What I love about having one child... I get to have one-on-one time with him all the time."
• Signing Kids Up for New Activities
  • Lindsie plans to enroll her twins and another child in gymnastics, referencing its developmental benefits and how she gauges the kids’ interests (03:19–03:53).
  • Discussion about hair dye and allowing kids freedom in appearance (28:33–32:31). Kail discusses letting Lux and Creed bleach their hair and the public's reaction.

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3. Veneers, Cosmetic Decisions, and Teeth Talk

• Navigating Cosmetic Changes
  • Kail’s contemplation of getting veneers and Lindsie’s advice based on her own journey (14:16–19:43).
  • Tips include seeking multiple opinions, understanding regional “tooth styles,” and being aware of materials and long-term effects.
  • Quote (Lindsie, 16:10): "I know that I have. Knock on wood. I have not experienced any chips or anything like that."
  • Quote (Lindsie, 18:03): "If you go in Atlanta or you go in Dallas, their style might be a little bit different... look at the style because you will probably see a pattern."
• Serious Advice
  • Lindsie warns about bad veneer experiences: "Listen to what she has to say because she talks about... her whole experience." (19:50)

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4. Red Flag or Just January? Segment

(Rapid-fire new year scenarios and funny takes)

• “My ex texted me ‘New Year New Us’ at 12:03am.”
  • Both agree: definite red flag, but with self-aware admissions.
  • Quote (Lindsie, 20:42): "'New year new Us.' Because we're blocking each other."
• “My friend posted ‘New Year New Circle’ but we’re still friends.”
  • Lindsie: That friend might be cutting you soon! (21:20)
  • Quote (Lindsie, 21:20): "You think you made the cut off, and come February 1st, it's a new month that you are cut off..."
• “Partner wants a relationship reset meeting.”
  • Both: Thumbs up – should happen year round, not just in January (24:43–33:21).
• “I want to cut off everyone who annoyed me last year.”
  • Considered extreme; everyone has annoyances (24:11).
• “Someone I blocked last year sent me a ‘thinking of you’ message.”
  • Confusion over blocked logistics and iPhone message delivery updates (41:52–44:00).
• “Situationship says January is a fresh start for communication.”
  • Both: It’s a ‘just January’ cop-out (45:07–45:18).

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5. Relationship Dynamics, Gender Roles & Household Jobs

• Roles in Co-habitation
  • Kail prepares for boyfriend David to move in; discusses maintenance responsibilities (“pink jobs” vs. “blue jobs”) and how they split chores (34:35–37:34).
  • Quote (Kail, 35:36): "Have y'all had that conversation about blue jobs versus pink jobs?"
  • Quote (Lindsie, 36:02): "If a man is around, I shouldn't have to do it."
• Laundry, Chores & Help
  • Both admit to outsourcing chores or splitting tasks based on preferences and "medicated" energy spurts (37:51–40:51).

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6. Teen Mom Drama & Building a Podcast Empire

• Online Drama with Janelle Evans
  • Kail addresses a resurfaced Facebook DM and clarifies she’s not concerned about who Lindsie may have asked to start the podcast with (47:00–48:55).
  • They reflect on how some castmates act as cheerleaders for each other while others foster competition (49:10).
• Origins of Coffee Convos
  • Kail details how she was inspired by an airline magazine to start podcasting and how early skepticism from agents almost deterred her (57:30–58:35).
  • Both express pride in building a multimillion-dollar podcast from nothing.
  • Quote (Lindsie, 47:57): “I came from nothing. I'm gonna brag about a multi billion dollar business that we built from the ground up by ourselves.”
  • Quote (Kail, 59:50): “Almost like there's room for everyone. And that's what I don't—I don't understand... focus on your own self.”

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7. Parenting Standards & Gender Biases

• Do Moms Hold Sons & Daughters to Different Standards?
  • Kail reads an article about expecting more from daughters (chores, emotional labor) and less from sons; Lindsie and Kail discuss their own patterns (61:33–65:54).
  • Lindsie describes her daughter Valley as naturally helpful and nurturing, but notes that learned behaviors and gendered roles often play out in daily life.
  • Quote (Lindsie, 63:15): "Sometimes we are implicitly asking a particular child to be the counselor, the empath, the one to carry the bad feelings. And if that child is always the daughter, that teaches a particular lesson to both children."
  • Kail: “I don’t want him to just do ‘gender role jobs’” (66:50).

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8. Foul Play: Listener Confession

• Memorable Listener Story
  • Listener confesses to accidentally farting during oral sex, leading to jokes about the “anatomy” of gas, queefing, and sex mishaps (67:15–69:25).
  • Quote (Lindsie, 68:18): "Farting while giving head is crazy."

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On January Behaviors:
  • Kail (23:07): "It’s very interesting how the tides will turn."
• On Outsourcing Chores:
  • Lindsie (38:44): "One of those things is deep cleaning. One of those things is laundry..."
• On Reality TV Rivalries:
  • Lindsie (47:57): "We’ve got a multi million dollar business. So I do not give a—"
• On Gender Roles:
  • Lindsie (36:02): "If a man is around, I shouldn’t have to do it…"
• On Rebranding the Podcast:
  • Kail (58:00): "Divine intervention… it was this whole article about podcasts and the projections..."

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Segment/Topic | Timestamp | |-----------------------------------------------------------------|-----------------| | Kail’s illness, new merch, sporting events | 00:35–02:20 | | One-on-one parenting, kids’ activities | 02:44–04:05 | | Jiggler, squatty potty, fitness gadgets | 04:05–06:53 | | Horse-riding drama & childhood accidents | 07:06–13:22 | | Veneers/cosmetic dentistry discussion | 14:16–19:50 | | Red Flag or Just January? lightning round | 20:23–25:03 | | Relationship reset, moving in, cohabitation plans | 33:21–36:29 | | Pink jobs vs. blue jobs, household chores | 35:36–37:34 | | Chores, outsourcing, medicated productivity | 38:44–41:05 | | Blocked contacts & iPhone quirks | 41:52–44:22 | | Vision boards, New Year goals | 45:43–46:38 | | On-air drama, origins of Coffee Convos | 47:00–59:33 | | Gendered parenting expectations | 61:33–65:54 | | Foul Play listener confession | 67:15–69:25 |

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Tone & Style

• Casual, irreverent, “real talk”: Plenty of friendly ribbing, candid confessions, and unfiltered language.
• Relatable: Focused on the messiness of real mom life and friendship, with a funny, forgiving take on mishaps and drama.
• Direct: Willing to call out internet feuds and industry competitors, but quick to celebrate their own successes.

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Final Thoughts

This episode is a fast-moving, laughter-filled ride through new year’s resolutions, health hacks, blended family chaos, dramatic DM leaks, and frank conversations about gender roles. Kail and Lindsie deliver a candid, sometimes outrageous but always human look at life in the public eye and the private mess behind it. Their dynamic chemistry, willingness to overshare, and approach to controversial topics are what keep the “Coffee Convos” universe spinning.

Transcript

[Kale Lowry]

I hate gift giving and receiving.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Receiving gifts is so weird. What do you say? Thank you.

[Kale Lowry]

This is Coffee Convos with Kale Lowry and Lindsay Chrisley. I really want you to be in your feels.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Kale, that does not interest me whatsoever.

[Kale Lowry]

I feel very attacked by you. A spirited discussion about motherhood, friendship, family, and life in the public eye. I'm just not with the fakery anymore.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

There's a fakery bakery around here.

[Kale Lowry]

Here's Kayl and Lindsay. Good morning and welcome to another episode of Coffee Compost podc. I am here and steroided up.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I can't believe they gave you steroids. I have had Covid five times and never got steroids.

[Kale Lowry]

It's so weird because the doctor told me he was like, I normally don't do this, but based off of the symptoms and my fever kept spiking in the way that it did, I did not have a fever this morning. But yesterday I Woke up with 101.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

So it's so crazy the things taking us out. Flu A almost took us all out, as you guys know. Happy New Year. I don't know if we've had episodes air before this. I don't know what's going on. I barely know what day it is. But we do have new merch. And this is the Boy Aquarium fan club shirt that you guys voted on and I hope you guys buy.

[Kale Lowry]

I still think Boy Aquarium is so funny. And the fact that I knew nothing about what a Boy aquarium was or that hockey players do that. Grinding on ice. Like.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

We need to take you to a hockey game. That's what we need to do.

[Kale Lowry]

I feel like no one goes to hockey games around here.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Games. Especially since it went viral on tick. Like, people were already going for the fun. And then Boy Aquarium took off on Tick Tock also, so then it just made it better. I hope they start getting paid more.

[Kale Lowry]

Okay, favorite split sporting events to go to. As far as, like, all of them.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I love them all. I never thought I could get into soccer because I didn't think I was, like, a soccer mom. I'll go to any sporting event, professional, high school, college. I don't care. I love it all. And I will yell and I will cheer and I will be absolutely wrong. But I'm having the time of my life.

[Kale Lowry]

I don't think I've ever been to a soccer game other than, like, little league or whatever. But my favorite sporting events to go to are basketball games.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I love. I really, really was trying to make it to the game tomorrow to see Lamelo Ball Play or Lonzo ball, one of them. But there was like a big group, group of us that wanted to go, and there was not enough seats together. So I don't know if I should still just take my family or if I scrap the plans all together. I don't know.

[Kale Lowry]

Definitely just take your family.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

But then I feel bad, you know, like, if it was supposed to be a group event.

[Kale Lowry]

You know what I love about having one child? That I feel like you really have to dedicate time in your schedule to do that. I. I don't have the same struggle. I get to have one on one time with him all the time.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah. I have to schedule specific one on one time.

[Kale Lowry]

Do you do it regularly?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah, I would say fairly regularly.

[Kale Lowry]

With the older ones mostly?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

No, with all of them except for the babies. I would say, like the four older ones, we get some amount of one on one time. The babies, it's a little more challenging, but I. Obviously as they get older, it'll be a little bit easier.

[Kale Lowry]

Can you not wait until you can start taking Valley to do nail appointments?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I can't wait if she's into it. I. I did tell Elijah pretty recently, I said, I'm gonna. I really want to sign the twins up for gymnastics. And we have, like, this little gym gymnastics, like, bar thing in our playroom. And Rio said he want to do it, too. So Elijah was like, yeah, sure, signing all three of them up. So I think that's what I want to do next. So that would be so fun.

[Kale Lowry]

I've heard so many people talking about signing their boys up for gymnastics, and they're like, it's so great for their development.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I've heard that. I hope it's true. I'll see if they're interested. I know they're interested in the playroom, but, like, I don't know if they're going to be interested in, like, an actual structured environment. So we'll see. I'll keep you posted.

[Kale Lowry]

Well, since it's January now, I need to ask you, have you seen the workout equipment called the jiggler?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

No.

[Kale Lowry]

Wait, what?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I have not.

[Kale Lowry]

I just need to know if you'll do it. Like, I'm gonna order one and I need somebody to, like, jiggle with me.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

What is the. Can you show me what the jiggler is?

[Kale Lowry]

Kristen, is there any way you can pull up the jiggler?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Is this real? Like, what does this do?

[Kale Lowry]

It's supposed to also be good for, like, your digestion. Like, there's so many alleged benefits of the jiggler. You might while you're on the jiggler.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Okay. Everyone's laughing. Rebecca and I. Ike are laughing. Yeah, I might. My kids will probably love it.

[Kale Lowry]

It's supposedly really cool, and it's. I think you only do it, like, a. A small amount of time, like, each day. And what.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

What is it for? It's for toning and tightening or, like, what is it?

[Kale Lowry]

I think so. Hold on. Let me look it up. The jig. How do you spell jiggler? The jiggler.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I don't know. You're asking the wrong one.

[Kale Lowry]

Okay. An exercise jiggler, more commonly known as a vibration plate or a whole body vibration platform, is a fitness device with vibrating surface that causes muscles to contracts, contract, and relax, rapidly enhancing workouts, improving circulation, balance, strength, flex, flexibility, and aiding in muscle recovery. Though it's best used as supplement to traditional exercise, it is not a replacement for active workouts.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I feel like right up Lincoln's alley, because Lincoln has been working out every day at home. I guess his dad has been sending him workouts, and he's going on the treadmill, the peloton, the workout, all of that, and I feel like that would be really good for him.

[Kale Lowry]

This is what it looks like.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Oh, I've seen these on TikTok. And they just jiggle you.

[Kale Lowry]

Yeah, they jiggle you. But I was reading something like, the last video I saw about it. Someone was saying that it helped their poop schedule.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I'll send one to Becky. She uses a squatty potty.

[Kale Lowry]

Oh, my God. David just bought me a squatty potty last week.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Are. Have you been using it?

[Kale Lowry]

I used it two times and pooped two times.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Was it. Did it work? Was it helpful?

[Kale Lowry]

Yeah, it was really helpful.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Interesting. Okay, well, I could get behind a squatty potty. I could get behind a jiggler. I probably would break the jiggler. But Matt did send me a scale, a smart scale, because I said, I'm gonna count my macros, I'm gonna take some riding lessons, and I'm gonna get back on a horse. So I. I might invest in a squatty potty as well.

[Kale Lowry]

Kill the way that I had the COVID laughing coughs. When I saw the video of you riding that horse, I'm like, what business did she have to be doing that?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

You know what? I want to just say this was no disrespect to the writing community. I know. Matt texted me and said the writing community is, like, ripping him a new one. I begged him to do this, and I can laugh now. Because I survived. But I just want to say, like, it truly could have ended so badly. Like, I could have walked away with, like, a spinal cord injury. And I'm telling you guys this right now, like, do not try that at home. Do not go to your friend's house and try to get on a horse and think it's funny and try to stay on it. Like, it truly could have ended so, so badly. But. And I know I said I would never get on one again, but then I read a comment this morning, and I'm gonna read it to you, and I'm gonna tell you why this is important. Someone said on his YouTube, you should try taking some real riding lessons. You could be an amazing rider. You did an astounding. You did astounding in the situation. You kept your cool and kept the horse in mind. You should be proud of yourself. So I just want to pat myself on the back here and just say that if I did have proper lessons, I do believe I'd be a good writer.

[Kale Lowry]

I just. I was waiting for the tragedy, you know, it's like watching a car crash from far away.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

So when the horse came to a halt, so Foose realized the gates are closed, and he comes to a halt. And that's sort of where you see gravity pulling me. And I'm about to fall off. And so it was, like, starting to fall off. Saved myself. And then my ankle was caught in the one stirrup, so I was able to, like, slide off. So I said I fell off, but it was like, it was because the horse came to a stop. And then I, like, sort of started to fall off. I didn't actually hit the ground. I was able to slide, like, maneuver.

[Kale Lowry]

It was just one of the scariest.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Moments of my entire life.

[Kale Lowry]

Weren't you doing that in Adidas, too?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah. And shout out to Adidas. I really love Adidas products. I've always been Adidas over Nike. So if Adidas hears or sees any of this, if they want to sponsor, I did ruin my Sambas. So if anyone hears this from the Adidas team, like, I'm here to support, support and accept all sponsorships.

[Kale Lowry]

So the Sambas are done.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Those specific. I have, like, 12 pairs of Adidas. I love them.

[Kale Lowry]

But Kristen said, rate this. Or the kayaking incident, which was scarier.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Kayaking incident? Which one? The one where you almost died in Costa Rica.

[Kale Lowry]

Yeah.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Oh, that was white water rafting. You know what is interesting about that is I did almost. I am Costa Rica. That's like, not a joke at all. I Went head first overboard. Whitewater rafting. And when I tell you that every single time I came up to gasp for air, I hit another boulder underwater. I definitely thought that I was going to be a goner there and like, drowned to my death. That was also on camera. And I would pay to get that footage off of one of my old laptops. Like, I would pay big money for that. Rate them. Well, I also almost died trying to boogie board in Hawaii as well. And that one was also with Leah, so I would rate that. And then one time when I was 12, I was moving my room to like rearrange the furniture, and I put my bed in, like in a corner. Does that make sense? So, like where your head is on the corner. So it was like a triangle of space between the bed and the corner of the walls. And I got stuck heads. My head was in there and I got stuck like that for like 13 minutes or something crazy. And I thought I was gonna die that day too.

[Kale Lowry]

Wait, but why was your head in there?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I don't remember how I got there. I think it was like, I don't actually know, but I was stuck and I was really scared.

[Kale Lowry]

Wait, wait, so as a kid, you were allowed to just like, rearrange your room?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Lindsay, I didn't have any supervision as a child.

[Kale Lowry]

I'm just like, if my parents came home and my room was rearranged, they would be like the.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I rearranged my. My room for fun, like every week. And I would use my. The strength in my legs to like, push the furniture with my feet and like scoot on the floor to like, push things around. And I would rearrange my room all the time.

[Kale Lowry]

That's how your leg journey started to get such good legs.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah, definitely the. The. The thighs. It was that. Those workouts in Susie's home.

[Kale Lowry]

Wait, did you have blow up furniture when you were growing up?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah, I did. Oh yeah. But you know what was crazy was like I was kind of like the chunky friend, so I couldn't sit on it. You know what I mean? So it was like scary for me because I would be like, I love this so much. But it was like I was scared to sit on it, to ruin it. So it was just there for decoration.

[Kale Lowry]

Girl. I had a whole living room set in my bedroom at my mom's house. Like, there was no blow up furniture at Todd's. Don't even like that.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Tacky for sure.

[Kale Lowry]

It would have definitely been a tacky moment. That would not have been allowed. I mean, Todd, one thing I will give him and is he is a meticulous designer. Meticulous.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I love that for him but I was definitely had a tacky bedroom. Always had a tacky bedroom wherever I went.

[Kale Lowry]

I'm looking for blow up chairs for the kids in for our media room because I just like they need to feel like the 90s. Well it's nostalgia for me but like I feel like they need to experience the 90s.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

If I wanted my kids to experience the 90s, they would pop it all over the place and they would be sumo wrestling and tackling each other on the furniture. So it would not be a wise investment for me to purchase purchase blow up furniture. Coffee Combos podcast is sponsored by BetterHelp. We love therapy and Better Help has quality therapists that work according to a strict code of conduct and are fully licensed in the U.S. betterHelp also does the initial matching work for you so you can focus on your therapy goals. All you have to do is fill out a short questionnaire that helps identify your needs and preferences. And their 12 plus years of experience and industry leading match fulfillment rate means they typically get it right the first time. So if you aren't happy with your match, switch to a different therapist at any time.

[Kale Lowry]

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[Lindsay Chrisley]

No, you didn't.

[Kale Lowry]

Yes, I did. I said I wanted to get veneers.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

When? When did you say that?

[Kale Lowry]

I told you this, like months ago. Yes, I did.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Well, these listeners will be my witness then. I do not recall.

[Kale Lowry]

We definitely did. And I was asking about like the no prep veneer situation and you were telling me about how your teeth didn't get shaved down. Are you remembering?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

No.

[Kale Lowry]

Okay, well I need people to go online and find people's teeth that they really like, that they know that they have veneers, and start sending them to me because I feel like it's such a permanent situation. You know what I mean? Like, I don't want to do it twice.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah. And you also don't want them to look like dentures. Because I have seen a couple people get veneers, and I know, like, the first little while after someone gets their teeth done, it is a little bit of an adjustment, but I know someone in particular that I'm like, that was not a good move for you. So it's like years later and you still look like you're. You have dentures.

[Kale Lowry]

Yeah. So what I want to avoid is looking like. And, you know the smile that I'm talking about. But it's the teeth almost, like, don't look like real teeth.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah, that's what I mean. Like, you could tell that something like, I like mine because they look kind of natural.

[Kale Lowry]

Yeah, yours look like Keith.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah, I. I definitely agree. And I think you have to be careful, too, because I know old veneers. Like, I remember talking to Randy Huska, Chelsea's dad, because I had wanted veneers for a long time before I got them, and he recommended against them because at the time, I don't know what he has on his teeth. Now. It's been a long time since I've talked to him, but he said that. I want to say it was. Don't quote me, Porcelain. Maybe they would chip.

[Kale Lowry]

Yeah.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I don't know what they make veneers out of anymore, but I. I know that I have. Knock on wood. I have not experienced any chips or anything like that. So I don't know that I have the same material that. That he did or does.

[Kale Lowry]

I do feel like porcelain veneers were, like, the it thing to do before they started doing the no prep situation. And I'm pretty sure they used to file them all the way down to, like. They look like a Tic Tac almost.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah, they. And they still. You can still do those. You can still do the whole cap situation for veneers. I just didn't go that route because I don't need them on the bottom either. If you're not a bottom teeth talker, you don't get them on the bottom. Like, they advise against it.

[Kale Lowry]

I need them on the bottom.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah. But it doesn't go by. Look, it goes by seeing your teeth when you talk and stuff. If you don't see that, because otherwise there's something about like certain people are not candidates for top and bottom because the bottoms will, could get ruined. It depends how you talk. So definitely I, if I were you, you should go get several opinions. I would say at least three. I don't think two is enough. At least three. Because the bottom, they, the dentist told me that not to get them on the bottom because the way that my teeth sit, the way I talk, things like that, they would end up just getting ruined for me. So definitely get multiple opinions. Don't go with just one person.

[Kale Lowry]

And I've seen a lot of people, like I've been thinking about veneers for several years at this point. And so I follow like a couple of other creators journeys doing it. And a lot of people aren't even getting veneers in the states that they live. Like, I've seen a lot of people go into Texas and California to get their teeth done. So I think this is going to be like a process and I don't want to be fast about it because the worst thing would like feel worse about my teeth than I already do.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Also, just a word of advice that certain areas, and this is something to be considered not just for you, but across the board, certain areas that you might go get your teeth, you need to look at the style of tooth. And I'm saying that because they're specifically in California, there is a specific veneer style that they prefer, which is all your top teeth being the same length. Okay. So when they first put my veneers on and they were all the same length across, it was like one flat, like straight across. That is the look and style for that area. And I said, no, Dr. Wahab in California did mine. And I said, can you shave some of them down? I don't, I don't like the all straight across look. I like the shape of my natural teeth and how. So like my canines are longer than the rest of them. They don't do that. So keep in mind that like, if you go in Atlanta or you go in Dallas, their style might be a little bit different. I know that goes across the board for like dentistry in general. Like if you go get braces, for example, certain orthodontists have a flare style. So they prefer the teeth to flare in a certain way with their teeth.

[Kale Lowry]

I had no idea about that.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah, so like, um, when I went to dental assisting school, I had to do like an externship, which is different than an internship. And in the externship I went and worked for an orthodontist and that specific orthodontist that I did the externship with was, did like the flare style of straightening. So definitely check out, like all of their testimonials, people that have gotten their teeth done and look at the style because you will probably see a pattern.

[Kale Lowry]

Okay. That's really good to know. Wow. You're just like a little plethora of knowledge on the veneer.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I don't want you to have to get it done twice. So also follow Winter on Tick Tock. Her name is Winter. I don't know how to spell it. I think it's like, I'll send it to you. She had bad veneers done and now she has permanent issues that she talks about. And she says, like it up her life for a while. Like it up. Like she has chronic pain, chronic issues. Chronic so much. Definitely listen to what she has to say because she talks about, like, what, like her whole experience. So I'll send you her profile. But anyways, we can move on.

[Kale Lowry]

Thank you so much. Okay, so we have a segment. It's called Red Flag or just January. So we're gonna roll through these. The first one is my ex texted me new year new us at 12:03am.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

New year new Us. Because we're blocking each other.

[Kale Lowry]

Okay. I. I feel like it's a red.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Flag, but yeah, it is a red flag.

[Kale Lowry]

I feel like if I'm single, I'm probably participating in that red flag.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Oh, for sure. If you're single, it's not worth it.

[Kale Lowry]

Yeah, like I'm. I'm going to engage in that conversation. Next one. My friend posted New year, new circle, but we're still friends.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Listen, I am starting to cut off a lot of people in January, so I might say new friend, new circle. You think you made the cut off. And come February 1st, it's a new month that you are cut off. So you might know your phone number.

[Kale Lowry]

You've changed your phone number, your address.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I swear, like, I'm not doing this anymore. I texted Kristen with some wild information last night. So I'm just cutting people off left and right. I don't care.

[Kale Lowry]

Wait, what?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Oh, yeah, it was confirmed to me. Confirmed, not speculated. That is in fact the rat of my circle. It was confirmed to me last night. She was basically best friends with teen mom chatter.

[Kale Lowry]

No.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah, no, because I had said it's really weird that, like, I was like, it's really weird that not a whole lot of information has been coming out about me over the last two years. Like a couple things here and there. That I've literally said on the podcast that people make something out of nothing or read too far into it, but, like, as far as, like, leaked information and half truths, and this person responded and was like, I don't want to say too much because I don't want to give their information away. But the person confirmed that it was explicitly said.

[Kale Lowry]

How do you feel about that?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

It's upsetting because, like, I also, like, took this person on trips and, like, you can't. This is not a situation of, like, Kayla's such a bad person, and you're reaping the benefits every day. It's upsetting because it's like, you were benefiting for so long, and now all of a sudden, I've cut you off, and you think that now you're gonna come try to out me. Like, I don't.

[Kale Lowry]

Over the years, I've definitely learned that when you make a choice for yourself to either remove yourself from certain situations of people might just be, hey, we're on different paths. And not that you necessarily dislike the person, but it's just, like, we're not on the same life path, and it's not good for us to continue hanging out because you are doing a disservice to me, and I'm doing a disservice to you. It's very interesting how the tides will turn.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yep. So interesting.

[Kale Lowry]

So it's just like, why. Why are we out here acting like that? We're too grown for that. But New year, new circle. I like that one. But also at the same time, I feel like I've been doing that over the last year.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah.

[Kale Lowry]

So I didn't really have to start my new year that way, but. Highly recommend.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Highly recommend. I'm saying no all 20, 26, so I agree.

[Kale Lowry]

Okay, next one. I want to cut off everyone who annoyed me last year.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I mean, that's a little extreme. Everyone gets on everyone's nerves at some point. Yeah.

[Kale Lowry]

I think it's just January.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

That's.

[Kale Lowry]

That's not a red flag. You know what I mean?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

No.

[Kale Lowry]

Like, if you're cutting off everybody who annoyed you, the amount of people that I would cut off everyone.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

My kids would be cut off, and they would cut me off. I annoy them so bad, they would cut me off.

[Kale Lowry]

My partner wants to do a relationship reset meeting.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

No, I kind of like that.

[Kale Lowry]

I think that's good.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

That should be more times in the year than just January, you know, I feel like that's a really good staple to have in all relationships, even in, like, parent Child relationships. Like, I feel like that's great.

[Kale Lowry]

I tend to agree with that. David, Gavin and I had a relationship.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I forgot Lux was calling him Gavin.

[Kale Lowry]

Wait, wait, wait, wait. Okay, let me tell you this story. So I post this, like, dancing reel on my Instagram, and it was like dancing into 2026. Okay, first of all, that's what we were doing into 2026, but then we got immediately taken out by Covid. By the time it was posted, we were taken out by Coven.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Oh, I was gonna say I definitely wasn't dancing in 2026. I was sleeping into 2026.

[Kale Lowry]

I mean, that qualifies as well. You should have taken sleeping videos and then posted those.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

True.

[Kale Lowry]

You know what I mean?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah.

[Kale Lowry]

So people are commenting on it and they're like, Gavin, Gavin Kevin.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Seriously, like, he calls Matt Matthews Matt Jeffries. So when I sent the birthday card on the front of the envelope, I put Matt Jeffries in Lux's voice. Gavin is David. He calls Elijah Elijah Scott Williams. And you know what? It's just like, that sticks with people. Does David know his name is Gavin?

[Kale Lowry]

Well, this is where this is going. So he goes on the comments and he's like, I'm gonna like people's nice comments. And I'm like, okay, you do you. I don't give a. I have Covid. Like, go away. Chloe goes, who the is Gavin?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

David?

[Kale Lowry]

Don't you know that Lux thought your name was Gavin? And he was like, yeah, because Gavin sounds like David.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

And I was like, no, because he. I think he was like on my lap or something and like trying to read my text messages. I think that's what it was. And so when he saw David, I think he thought because he was upside down. The start of the new year makes any of us think about what we can do to set ourselves up and our families up for the future. And for a lot of parents, maybe your kids need more flexibility. Flexibility when it comes to schooling. Maybe they would thrive with something more personalized. And that's where I want to introduce you guys to K12 powered schools. These are tuition free, online accredited public schools for kindergarten through 12th grade.

[Kale Lowry]

Please tell me why my son found out about K12 powered schools and is trying to get me to get him on K12 powered schools for next year. A little bit about K12. Your child will get the support that they need to learn at their own pace with tailored curriculum. But this is different from homeschooling. K12 has state certified teachers that are trained to teach online. They utilize hands on, innovative technology to make learning interactive. And K12 knows education isn't one size fits all. So whether your family has a busy on the go schedule or your student is an advanced or diverse learner, K12 will set them up for success. K12 has more than 25 years experience helping students gain the skills that they truly need to thrive in the future. It could be perfect for your child too. Join the more than 3 million families who have been served by K12 and empower your student to reach their full potential. Now you can make the switch at any time. Go to k12.comcoffeekombos today to learn more. That's the letter K, the number 12.com/coffee kombos k12.comcoffeeKombos Also, I need to tell.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

You something about Lux. Okay, so do you remember me getting ripped to shreds a couple years ago for letting Lincoln and Elliot dye their hair? Like, color their hair, and Lincoln bleached his hair like Slim Shady?

[Kale Lowry]

Yes, I do.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Okay, this episode. Kristen, leave this in because I know people are gonna lose their. I know that this episode is going to come after a chaotic live. Chris is going to go live as soon as he gets the kids over this past weekend because I have also let Lux and Creed dye their hair.

[Kale Lowry]

Wait, it's already dyed?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah. Lux also bleached his entire head.

[Kale Lowry]

Do we have photo evidence of this?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yes. And I would just like to say you can agree or not agree with me letting my kids color their hair, but Lux and Creed have specifically asked me probably 99 times about doing this. I let Elliot and Lincoln do it. It is harmless. It's not a big deal. It will grow out. And now that it's out of their system, they're likely to not ask again. So with that being said, I want you to prepare yourself for Lux because Lux, Russell Lowry really got his inspo from Lamin Mall. So I'm going to send you a picture of Lamin Mall that is Lux's dream come true. And he thinks it's going to especially look cool when his dark roots start to come through, because that's actually how Lamin Mall does it. So let me send you Lamin Mall just for anyone listening. Is a professional soccer player. He is Brazilian. Maybe. I'm not sure. Here is the photo, the inspo, and then this is Lux's hair. If you could just throw it on up there, he'll grow out of it. Everything will be okay.

[Kale Lowry]

I mean, I think it looks so cute. Like, it really is so cute. So that was definitely Coming.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah. So if Lamina Mall. This is for you if you're ever in the United States, maybe for the World cup, maybe, you know, let me know, because Lux is a major fan. To the point that he has now bleached his entire head to look like you. So send help.

[Kale Lowry]

Okay.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I think we should do a throwback, actually. I'll pull up for coffee Combo's Instagram. I'll pull up Lux's or Lincoln's bleached hair.

[Kale Lowry]

Wait, so how long did this process take? Because their hair's so dark.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Creed's hair. So do you see Creed in that picture? Yeah. Creed got around his head black and the top, blonde. But Creed already had blonde hair, so it basically turned his hair white. And so his took, like, 15 minutes. And then Lux had really, really. He has, like, really, really dark hair, so his took a lot longer. It took about 45 minutes for Lux. They loved it. They loved every minute of it. And something tells me they won't ask again. Because it was such a process, I think they thought it was going to be a lot quicker than it was.

[Kale Lowry]

I don't know, Kale. I'm thinking that these two might ask again. Like, the faces are saying, we really love it and we really want to keep it like that.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I told Lux that if he wanted to grow his hair back out to lock it up again, the tips of the locks would be blonde. And he loved that idea because he was like, it grows from the root, so the blonde would still be there. And so as his locks grow, they would have blonde in them. And so he really liked that idea, so he said he might do that if his dad lets him.

[Kale Lowry]

So I do have a question. Did his hair texture change when his head got shaved?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Nope.

[Kale Lowry]

It didn't?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

No. He has hair just like me.

[Kale Lowry]

That's so crazy.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah, just like Creed doesn't at all. No. Verse and Creed have the same hair texture.

[Kale Lowry]

Oh, wow.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah. And then so all the kids have different. I would say Lux even has finer hair than Elliot because Elliot always had the most similar hair to me. Lincoln's is pretty fine, too, but he keeps such a low cut that it doesn't really. Like, he's got a lot of hair, but it's not like super coarse, super thick or anything thing. But Lux's hair stayed the same when he shaved it.

[Kale Lowry]

Okay, so are we saying a relationship reset meeting is necessary? Are we saying what a relationship meeting is necessary?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah, I think it's important. I think that's a great idea.

[Kale Lowry]

We basically did a reset meeting While we were in Mexico and just talked about our. I'm not. I don't like the word resolution. Just like, goals, you know, goals for 20, 26 and like our life moving forward. Because there's a lot of changes that are coming for us, so.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Changes? Like what?

[Kale Lowry]

Like eventually you move in together within the year.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Whose house?

[Kale Lowry]

Mine.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

So you're not getting an apartment?

[Kale Lowry]

No, I'm not gonna get an apartment. I love the idea. I loved it. However, I just feel like I put so much into this house, and an apartment wouldn't be feasible with me in a relationship with somebody else. With a kid.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

You can't get a three bedroom apartment.

[Kale Lowry]

I am not doing it.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Okay.

[Kale Lowry]

I'm just not doing it. You know, I just.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Listen, you do what's best for you. You do what's best for your family. But if it was me, I would be doing it only because a two bedroom apartment versus a three bedroom apartment still sounds like a good deal to me, where I'm no longer responsible for all the things. Do you know what I mean?

[Kale Lowry]

That idea. No maintenance.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Right? But also, if you have this man moving in with you, in theory, you should also have no maintenance because he should be able to do everything well.

[Kale Lowry]

And he's really good about it.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

What the hell is going on with my phone for? You know what I mean?

[Kale Lowry]

I. Okay, so, for example, he came over here yesterday. We're staying at his house. His house is dubbed the sick house right now. Okay, Okay. I am at my house right now, recording. But we've been staying at his house and, like, covering it up with COVID and everything at my house is stripped and whatever. I could hardly get out of the bed yesterday. And so he came over to do an appointment that I had had scheduled. He is responsible for water pressure, showers, toilets. Yeah, you know, like all those things. Like, I don't know, it's like blue jobs versus pink jobs. Have y' all had that conversation about blue jobs versus pink jobs?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

No.

[Kale Lowry]

Okay. So I was going somewhere the other day, and he. He was like, oh, I've gotta go and do this, but you're already on the way to my house, so I'm gonna just not do that. And I said, oh, I can just stop and get it. And it was a gas tank for, like, the grill.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Okay.

[Kale Lowry]

And he was like, that's not a woman's job.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I'm gonna talk out of both. Both sides of my mouth here because I scream feminism all the time from the top of my lungs. But if a man is around, I shouldn't have to do it. Do you know what I mean? Like, I will. But if a man is around, do it. And a man should want to do those things. Like, it's a red flag if a man is like, no, I'm not doing that.

[Kale Lowry]

I tend to agree with that. Okay, so then we got into the conversation, and I told him about pink jobs and blue jobs. And he was like. He was like, okay, well, identify a pink job or a blue job. And I told him. I said, well, like, going to the grocery store could be a pink job or a blue job. Getting gas cans is a pink job or a blue job, depending on if you're out of town. But typically would be a blue job. Pressure washing used to be a pink job when it was only me, but now it is a. Now it is a blue job.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Okay, okay.

[Kale Lowry]

So hot tub has now been dubbed a blue job. Not that it can't be a pink job, but I'm. I can't do a pink job.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Listen to me when I tell you this. I'm not doing any jobs. They're all a man's job.

[Kale Lowry]

Hey, who is. Who is a laundry job? Is it a pink job or a blue job? Or could it be a pink job and a blue job?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Laundry is a pink and a blue job. And also, I'm not doing laundry ever.

[Kale Lowry]

Okay, well, David hates the way that I fold, but loves the way I wash. So we. So we have determined that I will wash and he will fold.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I'm hiring help. I did do it when my dad and his wife and family went on vacation for two weeks a couple weeks ago. I did have to do my own laundry at that time. Separate my own socks. Actually. Ike and I had to tackle it together because I have a whole sock thing. I. I keep a lot of extra. Like, when I say a lot. Like, I have an overabundance of socks of all sizes in black and white in my room in baskets, because the kids will come downstairs with white socks on, and they'll have black pants and black shoes. And I'm like, oh, no, we're not doing that. You need to go get black socks on. So I have lots socks in my closet. And so we were going through all of them. That was a pink and a blue job. And I did do that because I was medicated that day and I could focus.

[Kale Lowry]

Wait, can you tell me about your possible medicated days? And I'm going to assume that they were medicated because I was watching when I was in Mexico. The small amount of time I was on my phone, and it was like, you were organizing all this at your house and, like, cleaning walls.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Lindsay, I have been medicated for 14 days straight. No breaks. Okay? The first couple days when I started medicating, I scared myself because I hire help for a lot of things because, one, I don't have the time, and two, I just simply don't want to do it. One of those things is deep cleaning. One of those things is laundry. My dad and his family were away on vacation. I'm medicated. And I decide that at 8:30 at night, we are taking apart the freezer, and we're going to take it apart and we're going to scrub it and we're going to wash it. In that same night, we did all the socks. In that same night, I did all my own laundry. In that same night, I got all of my poshmark shit out of my closet, brought it to the office, and sold it all in 24 hours. So when I.

[Kale Lowry]

What time were you up until doing this?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I don't know. I don't know. But I did not stop. Like, we had. I have a dog room. I don't know if you guys remember this, but when I built my house, I wanted a dog room specifically for my dogs. And it has a dog bath and it has, like, the crate for when we're not home for extended periods of time, the shelf with all the treats and stuff, and then a dog bath. I had Ike take my freezer apart, like in my kitchen and take everything to the dog bath so that I could scrub it and rinse it out in the dog bath. He didn't sign up for that.

[Kale Lowry]

And I think at that point, no one did.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

At that point, he was questioning his entire decision to come to Delaware.

[Kale Lowry]

He was questioning the entire relationship.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

But I didn't have kids that week. I had no children. None. So it was like, I have to make the most of this time, and I'm medicated, and I can't help that. This is what my brain is telling me.

[Kale Lowry]

Did you feel better, though, after you did it, or did you feel kind of like. I should have never done that.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Was that before or after the horse? Because I. My body was okay. My body hurt that week. I think it was from doing more than I normally do. And also the horse. So that was. That was a lot for me.

[Kale Lowry]

I. I was like, I haven't seen Kale do that many chores and. Well, obviously I'm not in Delaware, but I haven't heard of you doing that many chores.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

No. Because I Usually don't.

[Kale Lowry]

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[Kale Lowry]

Okay, so the next one is someone I blocked last year sent me a thinking of you message. Well, if you block them, how did you get it?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Wait, what do you mean?

[Kale Lowry]

You know what I mean.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

No, I don't.

[Kale Lowry]

This person said someone you blocked last year sent you a message thinking of you. Well, if you blocked them last year, how did you it this year?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

They blocked me or just in general?

[Kale Lowry]

No, this person wrote someone that I blocked last year sent me a thinking of you message. So if you blocked them last year, how did they send you a thinking of you message this year?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

They probably. If you. Maybe they sent it via social media. They're blocked on social media. So they send a text. Or if they're blocked on text, they send it via social media.

[Kale Lowry]

Oh, I'm like the feds. I do a full sweep. Like you're blocked everywhere.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I actually don't like that. I had some messages in my phone of people that I blocked. Oh, they're. They're still there. Thank God. I noticed that my phone started deleting messages.

[Kale Lowry]

There's like, there's a setting in there that after one year of a no active thread or whatever, it'll auto delete it.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Oh, okay. So I gotta turn that off. Also, on the iPhones, I don't know if you know this now, but if you've updated it or whatever and you block someone, it puts the little red thing with the cross through it that shows they're blocked it. Like I didn't put that as an emoji like the iPhone does it itself to say like you have this contact blocked.

[Kale Lowry]

Oh, and.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

And for anyone who doesn't know if someone has you blocked and you don't know that it will say delivered and it's not delivered. So that's also an update. So you'll think that it delivered because it used to. When you sent someone a message that has you blocked, it just would never say delivered. It would never say anything. It would just sit there. Now it says delivered, but they have you blocked.

[Kale Lowry]

That is so.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

So you might be like, well, I'm not blocked. It says delivered. No, you very well.

[Kale Lowry]

Like the other way, though. You know what I mean?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Where it. So that you don't know that you're blocked.

[Kale Lowry]

Yeah, no, that you know that you're blocked. Like, if it's saying delivered, you're saying the new one saying delivered. Is that what you're saying?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

The new one says delivered? Yeah, yeah.

[Kale Lowry]

I like the old way where it's not delivered.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah. Because, like, if someone blocked me, I would like to know, but, like, if some.

[Kale Lowry]

If. If it's gone so far that they're blocking you, don't you feel like that should have been a conversation? Like, hey, I'm blocking you. Okay. If you block somebody, do you say you're getting blocked?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I used to, but now I just do it.

[Kale Lowry]

I do. I blocked Will like two times since we've been divorced.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I'm pretty sure all my kids dads have me blocked and I have them blocked, so.

[Kale Lowry]

And I realized that I needed to unblock him because we still needed to communicate for a child and that I was childish.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

So my favorite is this is why you're getting blocked. We're going back to email.

[Kale Lowry]

Oh, my God. I know who you're talking about. Okay. My situationship says January is a fresh start for communication.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

That's just January. I don't. That's just childish. It's a cop out. You don't get to just use new ears as like, a. Okay, now I'm gonna be on my best behavior. It's like, you should do that all year.

[Kale Lowry]

It's kind of like people who come in January and just, like, start acting correct, whether that be, you know, like, they're trying to lead the same this, like, more active lifestyle, or they're, like, trying to do, like, a fad diet or, you know, whatever it is. And then the people that you now can't get a seat at church because now all these people are back in church, and then all of a sudden it starts dwindling away around March, and it's like, no, that was just January.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I wonder how many, like, goals that I'm gonna stick to now that I am medicated, though, like, and I feel like I set pretty realistic goals.

[Kale Lowry]

Oh, you know what you inspired me to do?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

What?

[Kale Lowry]

You inspired me to do a vision board.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

And I did one on a mirror.

[Kale Lowry]

I know. Well, I already did it.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Okay.

[Kale Lowry]

And I did mine on, like, a framed canvas so that it could kind of like Match the aesthetic of my house and you can, like, hang it like a picture.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah, love.

[Kale Lowry]

So we did those over last weekend. We were a week late, but obviously doing that in Mexico. But I thought yours was so cute. I just didn't want to copy, like, the whole idea of the. The mirror, but I was like, that actually is really, really cute. And I want to know what everybody put on their vision boards. And I feel like if you do vision boards with people as a project, you really see people's personalities.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah. Yep. I did vision boards with my kids last week. Last week. Yeah, with. And you can just see their personalities are so different, but. And also just different from mine. But they were really cute.

[Kale Lowry]

I love that so much. Okay, the next one is my timeout.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Timeout in real time. Just got this from somebody. You can respond or not, I don't care. But someone just sent me a screenshot Janelle posted of you messaging her saying, merry Christmas to you and your beautiful kids. I've watched your journey from the beginning and how far you have come. You're beautiful. I'm going to send you my cell number because I hate messenger. We should get together. And then Janelle posted that and said, found this gem on Twitter before the podcast was started. I need to just clarify to everyone listening here, I don't care if you ask 10 people to start a podcast before me. I literally don't care. Everyone that said no or ghosted you or didn't answer or whatever, y' all blocked your own blessing because we've got a multi million dollar business. So I do not give a. Like, what do you think you're tell.

[Kale Lowry]

People that what you said, we've got a multi million dollar business.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

People are a little skeptical. They're like, they don't understand how podcasts make money. And, like, honestly, it's something I'm proud of. So I came from nothing. I'm gonna brag about a multi billion dollar business that we built from the ground up by ourselves. At the time, we had no support. We had no. I didn't have management. I didn't have assistance at that time. I didn't have a brand at that time. Like, I had nothing. We really built this from the ground up. So I'm proud to say it's millions of dollars that we've made. And I'm. I don't care. Like, Janelle, I don't care if it's true. Not true.

[Kale Lowry]

I understand, like, what this screenshot like, okay, cool. I've never said that. I haven't communicated with You.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I don't even care if you like. I don't care. Like, okay, Janelle, you. That's a hill that you're willing to die on. Shout out to Janelle for all the views that I've got. Thank you so much. Couldn't have done it without you. Eye roll. If that's what she's looking for. Glad that I've been able to give that to her.

[Kale Lowry]

But I don't understand, like, the. And this is something that I've wanted to talk to you about for a long time. For, like, really long time. But now it's the perfect opportunity. There are some of you in the teen mom space that I feel like y' all are cheerleaders for each other.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah.

[Kale Lowry]

And then there are some of you in the teen mom space that it's like this competition or somewhat predatory behavior on. I don't like that that person's doing better. So I'm going to target them type situation. And I don't what. What bred that type of behavior.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Janelle. Because let me not just blame Janelle. I'm at fault, too. And I. I think I've talked about it on coffee combos before, but in case you're new here, I'm just gonna do a little backstory on this. So I've told Lindsay this. Maybe you guys Remember when 16 and pregnant first started, I got casted for season two. Season two was split into two separate episodes. Two separate casts, basically. So I think it was like 19 or 20 girls. And it ended up getting split into two seasons, 2A and 2B. I was originally supposed to be on 2B, but Ashley Salazar story was not finished, so they ended up swapping us. I took her spot as the season finale on 2A because I was added late to that cast. Janelle, Leah, Chelsea had already known each other and met each other for. Do you remember Suchin Park? She did, like, a bunch of interviews and stuff. Press circuits that I was not part of because I was supposed to be on another. Basically on the second part of the season. Okay. When they swapped us and I became part of the two A cast, they had already known each other. And I think that that started sort of like a familiar bond between Chelsea and Leah. So I come in late, and as it happens, when you're teenagers and young adults, you just kind of get into, like, you become friends with certain people. And not that I wasn't friends with Chelsea and Leah, but they were sort of paired off. And so me and Janelle became friends. And that's why MTV Was calling me to bail her out of jail, to pick her up, take her to the airport. Her and Barb, like, called me one time to pick her up from the airport, stuff like that. So Janelle and I became, like, friends. And then, you know, as time goes on and certain things happen in other people's lives and whatever, things are shifting. Leah had gone away at one point, and, you know, she had her own struggles. Chelsea and I became closer, and Janelle was still there. So it was then me, Chelsea, Janelle. By that time, so many years and so much damage had been done that I was not aligning myself with Janelle anymore for a long time before that. So she went on these, like, rampages about, like, how I would exclude her. We would be mean girls. And it was this, that, and the third. And it's like, no, it's just like things shift. People change. People gravitate towards other people at some points. And so that's where all of that started. But she really started to, like, go online and, like, talk about it. And it wasn't intentional. It wasn't like, oh, I hate Janelle. I'm going to stay away from her. It was just I was at that time, at those certain times, moving myself in other directions and trying to propel myself into different directions. And Chelsea and I had a better relationship at that time. So I don't really know.

[Kale Lowry]

I just think the dynamic's so interesting because it's almost like sisters, but like haters. I. I don't know how to describe, like, what I see, and I think it's such a. A dynamic that it almost perpetuates the way that the. The air time and stuff is given out. It almost perpetuates a jealousy within the show. Some people get more time than others, you know, and then y' all do these reunions. And weren't y' all doing those, like, in New York City all the time?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

It was either LA or New York. It always depended.

[Kale Lowry]

And then, you know, I. I think it's probably natural to feel excluded if nobody's hanging out with you and you're on a show and you feel like the outsider. So, I mean, you have to self reflect, I guess, But I just couldn't imagine being on a show with other casts and it being all girls.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

It was. It was tough. I mean, there were periods of time. I mean, you guys saw that I was. Was the closest out of all of them to Leah at one point, right?

[Kale Lowry]

For a long time.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

We did vacations together, birthday parties, visited her in West Virginia. She came to Delaware. I went to her and Jeremy. Like there was. It's just what was going on at the time. I don't know. It was never intentional to be mean to Janelle. And like, I've said that. I feel like I've been very, very vocal about it all these years. So when I went and did Matt's show for the, he had a sold out arena tour. He asked me to be a part of the VIP session with the question and answer. And somebody brought up Teen mom too. So, like, it wasn't like I just happened to say Brianna and Janelle's name. It was like it came up and it was a comedy show. So it's like meant to be funny. It wasn't meant to be an actual shot at anyone. It was just like, do you know what I mean? Like, it's like I thought we, we were in a place that we could all make jokes, but when you take it that seriously, it's like, okay, I understand. I can't. I. I do not need to joke with Janelle at any point ever. But I just wanted to say I got that in real time while we were recording. And I am here to tell every fucking person listening to Coffee Combos podcast, I do not give one single fudge if Lindsay did or didn't ask Janelle. I do not give one single fudge if she asked 20 people before she asked me. Y' all blocked your own blessings and I do not care. I won. So thank you. Are you starting off the new year with a full wardrobe refresh? Because Quinn's has you covered with luxe essentials that feel effortless and look polished. They're perfect for layering, mixing, and building a wardrobe that lasts. Their versatile styles make it easy to reach for them every single day. I'm literally wearing my knitted sweater right now from Quince. I absolutely love them. Quinn's has all the staples covered from soft Mongolian cashmere sweaters that feel like designer pieces without the markup to 100% silk tops and skirts for easy dressing up to perfectly cut denim for everyday wear. But their wardrobe essentials are crafted to last season after season.

[Kale Lowry]

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[Lindsay Chrisley]

Wait, that surprises me for some reason.

[Kale Lowry]

I thought because she was, I think that I think. No, not like his current wife.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

No, no. Mackenzie Edwards.

[Kale Lowry]

Yeah, Mackenzie Edwards is who was suggested to me.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I that surprises me because I thought for some reason you asked Chelsea and Leah.

[Kale Lowry]

Kristen can find the emails because it would all be an email.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

That's so interesting to me.

[Kale Lowry]

But yeah, like everything happens for a reason in the way that it's supposed to happen. And we started the podcast not knowing anything. Me wanting to get into podcasts by looking at something in a Delta sky magazine of seeing. No, it was like a projection for like the podcast space. Remember me telling you this?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

No, I don't remember.

[Kale Lowry]

I was flying somewhere and I never read those magazines in the back of the seats ever.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Divine intervention.

[Kale Lowry]

And I had opened it up and it was this whole article about podcasts and the projections like for years leading up and how fast the space was growing. And I was like, oh wow, that would be something that would be so cool and I could do on my own. And I'm sure that you probably felt like this on your show, wanting to, to you were grateful for the opportunity that you had, but also wanting something of your own nobody else had. And it's not, it's not that you didn't want them to have things, but just something that you had that they weren't attached to.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah.

[Kale Lowry]

And so that's what I wanted. So I immediately went to my agent and I was kind of talked, attempted to be talked out of doing podcasts because even Agents at that time didn't really know where the podcast space was going, how ads were truly going to be sold, and if they were going to be consistent. It was really so new. And so I feel like you and I jumped into podcasting at a perfect time. And I want to say, I don't care who has a podcast or who wants to get in the space. My sister got in the space way after us. My parents got in this space after us. If Janelle wants to get into the space, cool. It's just disheartening that you guys were on a show for as long as you were together and that you held a friendship at some point and you have a network and it couldn't be figured out how y' all could collaborate.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I mean, in theory, that sounds good, and I think that that mentality is great, but I would not ever sign Janelle.

[Kale Lowry]

And I mean, I get it. I'm just saying from like a outsider.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

No, yeah, for sure, for sure. Like, I'd sign pretty much any other teen mom.

[Kale Lowry]

Almost like there's room for everyone. And that's what I don't. I don't understand. Like, if you're going to be successful, you're going to be successful. Focus on your own self. Like, why is the focus everywhere else?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Well, I mean, I. Listen, I'll tell you what. I did not anticipate January going, how it has gone so far. I had a lot of goals. I created a 2026, a physical 2026 bingo card for myself. I did vision boards. I have written down things I have done, certain appointments I met at my financial advisor's office yesterday. Like, there are certain things that I am putting in place. I could not have anticipated the amount of publicity, like online drama between me and Janelle, the horse video dropping, my relationship with Ike. Like, all of this stuff happened in literally 10 days. And I just want to say that I am scared for the rest of the year because if the rest of the year is going to be as fast paced as these two weeks, I don't know what I'll do.

[Kale Lowry]

What has happened to me in the past two weeks with just like various different things that have been going on online and then getting sick, it's normally I'm on my phone a decent amount of time throughout the day. Not as much as what I used to be, but. But I'm on it a decent amount of time. Haven't really been on my phone that much since we last recorded, which would have been like mid December. And the stuff that's been going on online. I'm like I don't give a. Like I don't give a about online. Yeah, I am offline for a reason.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I definitely I've only read one book this month so far if that tells you the amount of scrolling and on my phone that I've been with all of the that's been online these last two weeks, I have not been focusing on reading. So I definitely don't want that to be the trajectory of the rest of the year. Okay. I hold my son and daughter to different standards. There was an article on Yahoo and it says that my daughter regularly asks asks to do the dishes. She also likes making her bed, preparing her own breakfast and generalized sweep. Generalized sweeping, which is not terribly effective, but nice in theory. In short, she is a parental dream. Proving at age 9 not only helpful but a full validation of my laissez faire, I don't know what that word means approach to parenting. I don't. I don't know. The problem is that my 11 year old son most certainly does not ascribe to this philosophy. Leaving breadcrumb like trails of socks and used tissues around the house and sooner going hungry than lifting a finger to make his own food. In fact, he stealthily found a way to convince his sister to make snacks for him and I I often catch her hustling around the kitchen preparing two PR2 trays of pre dinner snacks, whatever. And the expert says there's a problem here. Most parents don't try to hold their kids to different standards. And of course her husband thinks that boys and girls should be held accountable in equal measure. But the fact remains, most of us expect more from people who have previously exhibited aptitude and less from those who have not. So case in point, if the coffee table is littered with seltzer cans and school supplies, my instinct is to ask my daughter to clear it, even if her brother was the one who made up the mess. So this is sort of where gender roles start. I feel after all, if I ask her to clean things up, I know it will get done without conflict. And sometimes mommy's just tired. But the cycle isn't healthy. So Lori Kramer has a PhD and she's a professor in applied psychology at North America North Northeastern University. And she she's an expert on sibling dynamics. She says we tend to expect that girls are going to be much more nurturing than boys. They're the ones we ask to help out around the house or to get the diapers, whereas we expect boys to be a protector of younger siblings or to be the fun one and the good play partner. And the issue isn't that we're wrong. Girls are often more conscientious and attentive to detail. The issue is that it doesn't. It does a disservice to boys who have the potential to be just as conscientious, Even if those characteristics don't emerge until a little bit later. And I would agree with that. This says this applies not just to tangible behaviors at home. It also is things that we don't see and the emotional labor. Sometimes we are implicitly asking a particular child to be the counselor, the empath, the one to carry the bad feelings. And if that child is always the daughter, that teaches a particular lesson to both children. So I would agree. I have noticed that my daughter, instinctually and without being asked, does things very differently than the boys do.

[Kale Lowry]

What? Can you give an example?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah. Cleaning up. If I tell the toddlers, specifically Rio versus and valley to clean up this room, Valley will do it. Verse will just kind of linger. So valley will do it. She cleans up she likes. Well, verse will. Verse doesn't like a mess. So if he spills something, he immediately is asking for a napkin to clean it up. So I will say that that doesn't come from me. That comes from elisha, because I have executive dysfunction, and I'll leave the water spill there all day. So it's really interesting. Like, Lincoln. Lincoln is probably my messiest child. So if you ask him to clean up, his cleaning up is very, very different than, like, I would argue that valley cleans up better than Lincoln.

[Kale Lowry]

Really?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yes.

[Kale Lowry]

That's so great. Do you feel like valley is nurturing?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yes, but some of my boys are, too. Like, some of my boys can be. I mean, Lincoln's messy, and he might not clean up as well, but he also is very, very nurturing to his siblings. So I would argue that this article is kind of spot on. If you treat it differently. If you treat the kids differently, they're gonna do. They're gonna definitely do different things. But if you treat them kind of the same when it comes to stuff like that, they will be relatively the same, if that makes sense.

[Kale Lowry]

I definitely feel like this year, and I don't know if you felt like this when your boys became teenagers. Wait, you only have one teenager? Well, I don't know. I was having a conversation with David, and I said, there's a lot of things that, like, I want Jackson to learn to do this year for himself. And I'm like, that's even if it's just like making something for himself in an air fryer, because I am so hands on with him. And I don't know if it's. If it is my nature to be that way or if it's because I've had one and I have the ability to be able to do everything.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I think that's part of it for sure. And we definitely have an obligation to teach our sons how to do things a certain way. But is hard because sometimes it is easier just to do it for them than it is to let them do it.

[Kale Lowry]

But as moms, do you feel like. Because I don't know, I don't want him to just do, like, gender role jobs. You know what I mean? Like, yep, you can also load a dishwasher as well as you can take out a trash bag.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yes, I agree. Yeah. So when we're talking about boy, girl, boy jobs versus girl jobs, I would agree.

[Kale Lowry]

And on that note, we have foul play. Hey, ladies. I love you too. I'm catching up on my episodes. And let me say, I love the podcast. Y' all make me laugh and get me through my work. And you two are doing amazing. So well. 2026 is not off to the great start. So me and my ex, baby, baby daddy number two, a long time ago, we were in the mood and I was getting into it. So I decided to give him head. And I thought I was. I was looking all cute with my back arch and my ass in the air. I was getting turned on. I was getting turned on more and deep throated him. And let me say, I went a little too far. And I let out the loudest fart ever in my life. Girl, I sounded like a elephant. I just stopped. It killed the mood. And I was so embarrassed. And he was laughing at me. Well, yeah, that's it. And if it makes it on the podcast, I hope you laugh and let me know that I'm not the only one that farts while trying to deep throat. Love you, ladies. Okay, I need to know if there is an association with a throat and.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

No, I thought she was gonna say she, like, burped or she, like, threw up.

[Kale Lowry]

Yeah, I don't. Is there an association from here to here?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Farting while giving head is crazy.

[Kale Lowry]

It's. It's.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

That's like. I don't know.

[Kale Lowry]

I wonder if she just had gas, like burps and farts, and it came out the butthole.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Like she was like, like swallowing air, basically. Yeah. It's kind of like with the time that you said that you didn't want to queef because that guy was pumping you with air filming. If your dick isn't big enough, I need you to do better.

[Kale Lowry]

You know, you're filling me with air, not dick. Who, like, who did I think I was when I was telling that joke?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Like, I don't know, because, like, I queef and it wasn't a size issue. You know what I mean? Still embarrassing.

[Kale Lowry]

But I mean, for me to just lay there and queef and then laugh, I mean, it truly was like a Cruella moment.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Like, not a Cruella moment.

[Kale Lowry]

A Cruella moment. I'm gonna laugh right now, and I've gotta think of something. And it's this meme that I saw. I wouldn't have queefed if you didn't fill me with air. And you filled me with dick, period.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Also, no candles around sex because Lindsay's hair will absolutely catch on fire. So we just have fearful.

[Kale Lowry]

God, do you ever look back on your past and you're like, I should have never been with that person?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah, every damn day of my life.

[Kale Lowry]

But it's, like, far too late. You know what I mean?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

And I've got products of the relationship as well.

[Kale Lowry]

I mean, at least I will say I can excuse mine somewhat because I don't. I don't have children with those people.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I love my children. I wish I could have conceived them immaculately.

[Kale Lowry]

Kristen said she needs to sex proof her room.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah, you do need to sex proof for your room.

[Kale Lowry]

I love that. Okay, so we have our Valentine's Day collection launching this Friday. You guys need to stay tuned to our Facebook group for an early sneak peek and follow us on our socials for the full reveal. Thank you guys for always supporting our show. Please subscribe and review on the Apple podcast, Apple app, follow and rate on Spotify or listen wherever you get your pods. For our latest merch, visit CoffeeConvo podcast.com to shop. Full video episodes are available on Kale's [e-mail] Kale Lowry. Don't forget to follow us on Instagram and join our Facebook group to connect with us and our community.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

See ya.

[Kaitlyn Bristowe]

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[Kale Lowry]

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[Lindsay Chrisley]

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[Kale Lowry]

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[Lindsay Chrisley]

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[Kaitlyn Bristowe]

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