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Lindsay Chrisley
I hate gift giving and receiving.
Kale Lowry
Receiving gifts is so weird. What do you say? Thank you.
Podcast Narrator
This is Coffee Convos with Kale Lowry and Lindsay Chrisley.
Lindsay Chrisley
I really want you to be in your feels, Kale.
Kale Lowry
That does not interest me whatsoever.
Lindsay Chrisley
I feel very attacked by you.
Podcast Narrator
A spirited discussion about motherhood, friendship, family and life in the public eye.
Lindsay Chrisley
I'm just not with the fakery anymore.
Kale Lowry
There's a fakery bakery around here.
Podcast Narrator
Here's Kale and Lindsay.
Kale Lowry
Welcome back. We're still in Dallas.
Lindsay Chrisley
Good morning and welcome back to another episode of Coffee Convos podcast. We are going to start this episode off hot from that we don't even know about Instagram. Questions from Madison. We have never seen these.
Kale Lowry
No. And I'm excited because the first one is.
Lindsay Chrisley
Yeah, it's outrageous.
Kale Lowry
It says, from life of Laru, switch baby daddies for a month or go without seeing kids for a month.
Lindsay Chrisley
Without seeing kids for a month.
Kale Lowry
Oh, I want to switch. I want. Will is funny. Will's funny. No, I would love for you to deal with four of mine and I take Will.
Lindsay Chrisley
Like you would give me your four for that one. Yeah, terrible trade off. Terrible.
Kale Lowry
I feel like it's fair.
Lindsay Chrisley
Have you ever dealt with a passive aggressive person?
Kale Lowry
Yeah, I think everybody in my own life.
Lindsay Chrisley
You think I'm passive aggressive.
Kale Lowry
No, no, you're not passive. You're pretty direct.
Lindsay Chrisley
I feel like I'm aggressive. Oh, we also still have a live audience.
Kale Lowry
We do still have a lot of. You know what? On second thought, it's just the baby dads that are passive aggressive.
Lindsay Chrisley
Yeah, I have a passive aggressive one as well.
Kale Lowry
He is, is he?
Lindsay Chrisley
Yeah.
Kale Lowry
I think I only know you can
Lindsay Chrisley
have the mentality that you have because you weren't married to the man. You don't have a kid with him. Like, no, I'm literally going a month and I'm probably going to Greece and staying for one entire month and not dealing with a baby dad.
Kale Lowry
Okay. I think that's fair.
Lindsay Chrisley
Like, if you think that I would ever take on one of your baby dads I'm out.
Kale Lowry
Honestly though, like, I. Like, as hard as the summers are without Lincoln now, we have only done one summer, but the summer is quickly approaching. It is hard to not have him in the summer. It just feels like something is missing. When I have my other kids, I low key wouldn't mind having the setup for all of them. Like, I just have all my kids during the school year and they go to their dads for the entire summer. And. And in that way, when we're talking about go without seeing the kids for a month, that is. I would be okay with that. Where it's.
Lindsay Chrisley
That could be a show. It's like daddy daycare and just ship
Kale Lowry
them off to their dads for the summertime.
Lindsay Chrisley
Yeah, I don't think I can get behind that, but I understand why you have that mentality. Next question. Sassy bougie Natty says, how do I get through divorce grief if you're like me?
Kale Lowry
Okay.
Lindsay Chrisley
Because if you have a kid with. Well, I think if you have a kid with somebody, you never. You never really get over it.
Kale Lowry
Yes and no. For a period of time, I felt like I had the best of both worlds, but I also did not cope in a. In a healthy way. I don't feel like I became like this like crazy adrenaline junkie for a period of time. And I was skydiving and traveling and I remember when you were dropping 20 grand on a yacht and just not. Not handling it well.
Lindsay Chrisley
I think we all handle things differently, but are all going through kind of like the same journey now. I can say for a fact, if I was married to Will and I did not have a child and he has said this, we would never speak again, ever.
Kale Lowry
Oh.
Lindsay Chrisley
Like, we could live in the same town. And like, remember when I got divorced and he took Kroger and I took Publix and I took a couple restaurants. Like, never cross paths. Like nothing. Yeah, but I think that you're constantly going through divorce when you have a child.
Kale Lowry
Yeah. Joe texted me yesterday about can. Can he have Elliot on my day? And I said, respectfully, Joe, don't text me. Elliot is 16. He can ask me if he wants to go.
Lindsay Chrisley
Yeah, see, I.
Kale Lowry
Like, I wouldn't.
Lindsay Chrisley
It's the constant need to have some form of communication or some ask or. And I mean, we do it too.
Kale Lowry
Yeah, we do. And it's just annoying. You know what I mean? Like, I don't. I don't want to be attached to this person. If I knew then what I know, I would not have procreated with the people that I procreated with, I don't think they would have procreated with me, but I'm talking from like a.
Lindsay Chrisley
You're crazy if you think that.
Kale Lowry
No, I'm not. I mean, I. Look, no, I'm just thinking, like, biologically speaking. I sent I know two of your
Lindsay Chrisley
baby dads that would have absolutely still picked to procreate with you, and they give you the biggest hell fair. Do you know which ones I'm talking about?
Kale Lowry
Yes, I do.
Lindsay Chrisley
Yeah.
Kale Lowry
T.NIA M said, lose all your episodes or leak your photo gallery.
Lindsay Chrisley
Lose all my episodes.
Kale Lowry
Lose all my episodes. Lose all my episodes.
Lindsay Chrisley
Because the screenshots will send me to prison.
Kale Lowry
Let me pull up my screenshots really quick and just sort of give you guys an idea. My screenshots are weird. That's the thing. They're not going to get me in trouble. They're just weird. And I don't want anyone to question my mental health.
Lindsay Chrisley
Kill. As if people already don't question it without seeing your screenshots.
Kale Lowry
My screenshots include a Berlin woman sentenced to four years in federal prison for stealing $1.7 million from an OC home builder. A DM that I got about Janelle.
Lindsay Chrisley
Why? Why? Why do you need to say that? Because she's coming for us next week.
Kale Lowry
Should we go on the MILF mindset?
Lindsay Chrisley
No. I didn't even know that MILF was like, a word that was still used.
Kale Lowry
My screenshots include Nordstrom in Delaware is going out of business, so we have effectively nothing left. Photo that came up on my Facebook of Becky's donor for Becks in people you may know on my Facebook.
Lindsay Chrisley
Okay.
Kale Lowry
And then a screenshot from my Amazon, A screenshot of our Facebook group. Like, they're weird. So I'm not necessarily worried about my screenshots. Like, whatever. I just.
Lindsay Chrisley
Do you want me to tell you what's in my screenshots? It's like, it goes from. This shows you the level of psychosis. It goes from hair inspo to woman netted 3 million in online romance scams to screenshots of people.
Kale Lowry
What is that?
Lindsay Chrisley
Screenshots of people that I know that have been arrested.
Kale Lowry
Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. So that brings me. Brings something up. So yesterday I posted a video on TikTok talking. People were like, kale, what have you got done to your face? Like, can you talk about things that you've gotten done? And so I post the video. I really haven't done that much to my face. Like, I've done my chin, my teeth, and I get dysport, which is comparable to Botox, which again, not to be confused with filler. They're different. And in the comments, somebody said that the doctor who did my teeth also did their teeth and was arrested for fraud. And I said, what the fuck? So I go online and I Google and I go down this rabbit hole and I'm thinking that it was related to his schooling, his medical license as a dentist. Like, I'm panicking because I'm like, what if something's wrong with my teeth? Like, do I need to go get these taken off and then like, look like my. Because my natural tooth is still under them. I don't have the ones that you shave down. I just have the veneers that go on top of your regular tooth. So I start panicking, I go down a rabbit hole and thank Rihanna because it was. It's fraud. Come. That has to do with the NBA. So I think some, I think the gist of what was going on.
Lindsay Chrisley
Why is there so much fraud in the NBA? Like, I don't understand.
Kale Lowry
Well, I think what was happening was that he was doing maybe an exchange for NBA players to do their teeth, but then he was charging like the NBA's like, health plan or something. Something along those lines. So he was sentenced to like three or four years. And I was like, I don't give a about that. Like, I really don't. And so whatever that.
Lindsay Chrisley
Well, what if you have to have any touch ups done? Like, he's just in the pin and then he comes out and then you get it done.
Kale Lowry
Well, I think he's about to get out. So, like, I would go back to him because I don't give a. He didn't. He did a great job on my teeth. What the does that have to do with me? He's not defrauding me.
Lindsay Chrisley
I don't give a about his fraud. Okay, next person says, well, her name is Morgan K. Robson.
Kale Lowry
Rob Robinson.
Lindsay Chrisley
Robinson. Would you rather snort a line of toenails or lick earwax?
Kale Lowry
Neither. I'll jump out a window first. I won't do either. I would not do either.
Lindsay Chrisley
Lindsay Clancy that and jump to my own death. Like, literally snort a line of toenails is crazy.
Kale Lowry
I'll throw up. BB Crier said, have you ever have your kids ever walked in on you doing the deed? Because mine did. Yes.
Lindsay Chrisley
No, but also yes. Like, no, but what does that mean? Like, I didn't see one of them do it. But you know that I know that it was done based off of the evidence that was explained.
Kale Lowry
Yeah, this has happened more times.
Lindsay Chrisley
Mom, why didn't you have on clothes? Mom, why was he laying on top of you? What do you mean? Why are you in my business and why were you there? Like, I heard noises.
Kale Lowry
What were what noises? It was a movie. There was a movie on the tv. Like we were wrestling.
Lindsay Chrisley
The moans were crazy.
Kale Lowry
I put him in a guillotine.
Lindsay Chrisley
Okay, fight one. Okay, Casey B. Stewart says fight one horse sized duck or a hundred duck size horses. Wait, I. The ADHD is adhd. Fight one horse horse. So a horse that is the size of a duck?
Kale Lowry
No, a duck.
Lindsay Chrisley
A duck the size of a horse
Kale Lowry
or 100 horses that are the size of a duck.
Lindsay Chrisley
Going to do the one I'm going
Kale Lowry
to do the 100 duck sized horses.
Lindsay Chrisley
Why would you do that?
Kale Lowry
That feels more manageable to me.
Lindsay Chrisley
No, that feels way more chaotic. And the answers that we both gave do not surprise me based off of personality.
Kale Lowry
Also, like you're telling me the number of children we have as well.
Lindsay Chrisley
Like you're going to tell me that you're going to fight 100 things or just like one bit? Like one thing.
Kale Lowry
I'm going to fight 100 things because it is no very on brand for me to do that every day of my life.
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Kale Lowry
Also, with that being said, realistically speaking, how many pigeons do you think you could fight off?
Lindsay Chrisley
None.
Kale Lowry
Like, if you were outside walking downtown and all these pigeons fly after you, how many before?
Lindsay Chrisley
Oh, I was thinking penguin.
Kale Lowry
You mean?
Lindsay Chrisley
I don't know, like, what they released in Home Alone. Like in that scene, Those birds, the
Kale Lowry
ones that are like, remember on. Hey, Arnold.
Lindsay Chrisley
Hey, Arnold. Move it, football head.
Kale Lowry
And the gram and the grandfather. Or. No, there was a pigeon man and he had all the pigeons and he gives Arnold the lesson. But, like, realistically, if they're all flocking around you, how many?
Lindsay Chrisley
None. I'll let him kill me. Yeah. You know that I have, like, an irrational fear of birds. Remember when we talked about it when you were going to get a parakeet or whatever that kind of bird was?
Kale Lowry
I'm so thankful every day of my life that I don't have, because it
Lindsay Chrisley
was going to be the mascot of Coffee Combo's podcast. I was going to get a ferret.
Kale Lowry
Yeah.
Lindsay Chrisley
Could you imagine me strolling around just like in my bronco with a ferret in a ball? Oh, Rick. I love this question. Rick. Jax. What a name. When do we get more tour?
Kale Lowry
This summer. We're going on tour this summer. Super excited. And so far we have 12 cities and Lindsay and I, we're waiting on the dates so Lindsay can pick which ones she wants to go to. We just don't have the dates yet. We have the cities, but no dates.
Lindsay Chrisley
Remember when the last tour happened and I wasn't gonna go on it, and then I ended up on Three out of four shows.
Kale Lowry
There were six.
Lindsay Chrisley
Oh, there were six.
Kale Lowry
Yeah. But still, you came on a half. Almost half of them.
Lindsay Chrisley
Okay, next question.
Kale Lowry
Oh, craziest place you have had sex.
Lindsay Chrisley
Craziest place.
Kale Lowry
I'm third. I'm about to be 34 years old. I don't have sex in crazy places at this point. And my boyfriend's too tall to fit in a car, so we can't. Crazy is probably the Nordstrom that's closing in that parking.
Lindsay Chrisley
Nordstrom in the parking lot. Okay. So one time when I was, like, rekindling an old flame, we decided it was a good idea. We were gonna take the Bronco. We're gonna go to the mountains, and we're gonna go to this little cider company, and we're gonna sit and watch football. And we took our own little, like, homemade charcuterie. And, you know, like, frisky things started to happen. So he just whips the Bronco into a gravel lot. And. I mean, that was the wildest thing I think I've ever done in my entire life.
Kale Lowry
Did you have a good time?
Lindsay Chrisley
I did. And then I went to the car wash the next day because I'm like, what happened in here? Like, I need to wipe away the scent.
Kale Lowry
Wipe away the sin or the scent?
Lindsay Chrisley
Both. I'm going with both.
Kale Lowry
I don't know that I've ever really had sex in a crazy place that I can think of that I didn't.
Lindsay Chrisley
You conceive, like, two kids in a car.
Kale Lowry
Yeah. Elliot and Lux.
Lindsay Chrisley
That's crazy. Like, if I was going to conceive, it would have been that time.
Kale Lowry
I love the next question so much.
Lindsay Chrisley
What's something you judged other girls for and then ended up doing? I can think of a lot of things.
Kale Lowry
I can think of a lot of things. One of them is getting pregnant as a teenager. It would be like, how the. Is she gonna go on with her life? What is she gonna do about school? Is she gonna get a job? Who's gonna watch the baby? Like, I just did. I couldn't comprehend getting pregnant in high school. I didn't want kids, and so I was also just like, how do you. What do you even do with a baby? You know? And then the sec. One of the second things is someone cheating on you and then me outing them publicly. And then, like, I did that, and then that happened to me. So I guess that's not really. Like, I judge someone, and then I.
Lindsay Chrisley
Oh, you outed somebody else cheating?
Kale Lowry
Yes. And then it. Karma. Karma. Really hard.
Lindsay Chrisley
Really, really hard. Yeah, I Think the only one that, like, sticks out to me is going back to an ex, because I have repeatedly done it.
Kale Lowry
Yeah.
Lindsay Chrisley
Like, I'm always saying, oh, well, if it doesn't work out, like, that's the sign.
Kale Lowry
I don't really judge people for going back to their ex most of the time. Like, obviously, there's. There's exceptions to every rule, but I was always going back to exes, so I don't have room to judge when other people go back to their exes. And, I mean, Ike and I had that conversation yesterday where I literally was like, I don't care. Like, people are going to do what they're going to do regardless. And it doesn't matter what everyone's friends are saying. You're just setting them up to lie. Because that's what I was doing.
Lindsay Chrisley
You didn't lie to me.
Kale Lowry
No, I didn't, because I didn't feel judged by you. But I would lie to Becky. I would lie to Bone. I would lie to Sterling because I didn't want them to know. And so. Because I didn't want them to judge me. And I.
Lindsay Chrisley
That was, like, back in the day when you used to, like, turn your location on and off and then. Remember when you did that?
Kale Lowry
Yeah, that was rough. That was a rough time for me.
Lindsay Chrisley
And I'm like, I know where you are, like, immediately when you turn that location off. Like, come on.
Kale Lowry
You knew who I was with.
Lindsay Chrisley
Come on. You were at his mama's house. Okay. What is the most humiliating thing that you've done for male validation?
Kale Lowry
A threesome.
Lindsay Chrisley
Oh, I remember this. It was at your house, right? In your basement?
Kale Lowry
No, it was in the guest room.
Lindsay Chrisley
That's when you farted in the closet?
Kale Lowry
No, that room didn't even have a closet.
Lindsay Chrisley
Just kidding. Wait, so you. You had a threesome because.
Kale Lowry
He wanted to know, but I thought, like, if I do these things for him, he'll never want to go somewhere else. Like, he'll love it here.
Lindsay Chrisley
No, because you're setting the tone that you're going to continue doing that.
Kale Lowry
Right.
Lindsay Chrisley
Like, at what point was it going to stop, or were you just going to continue doing it at that time?
Kale Lowry
That version of Gail. I would have done anything for him. I look at him and I'm like, you're missing fucking teeth. Your hairline is in the back of your head.
Lindsay Chrisley
Like, missing teeth. You know, we're going to.
Kale Lowry
I'm getting canceled after this. Oh, Alessandra is going to rip me a new one.
Lindsay Chrisley
Oh, yeah. Editing is going to take us straight Out. Okay, I will just say the craziest thing or the most humiliating thing that I've ever done for male validation. It's not really that humiliating is every time I go through a breakup, I put extensions in my hair. And I don't even like to wash my hair every time.
Kale Lowry
Not you. On the last episode, showing the fudgeing extension. Like that was literally the other day.
Lindsay Chrisley
I know. I went and got color matched right before I came here.
Kale Lowry
Jesse D. Casey says, have you ever sabotaged something just to feeling?
Lindsay Chrisley
Yes, my entire life. I sabotage my entire life.
Kale Lowry
Like, I'll sabotage and be like, I don't think you want to be with me. Because I'm basically like, I don't think you want to be with me. I don't know how to explain what I'm going to say. So I'm basically putting it out there. Like, it's what you fear is what you create. So I'm self sabotaging the relationship, but there's nothing wrong. But it gives me a sense. It gives me a sense of being in control. Because I'm like, if I can predict this, I can predict how I'm going to feel. I can change how I'm going to feel. I can protect myself. If I self sabotage and it happens, then I don't have to worry and I can't get hurt. Yeah, exactly.
Lindsay Chrisley
I do the exact same thing.
Kale Lowry
Like, I have to break up with you before you break up with me. Because it will hurt if you break up with me, but it won't hurt if I break up with you, which it also fudge.
Lindsay Chrisley
But see, I just had the conversation the other day that I like for somebody to break up with me. So then I don't have it, like on my conscience. Like, I can just like, smooth sailing. And by smooth sailing, it does not mean that, like, I'm really sailing nowhere except my bed. But, like, I don't have to feel
Kale Lowry
bad about it if someone breaks up with me, which it hasn't happened yet, but if they did, my whole thing would be like, see, I told you. I told you. I knew that would happen.
Lindsay Chrisley
You and I are the same person in that regard. Like, I will sabotage my entire life just to feel in control.
Kale Lowry
Same every day.
Lindsay Chrisley
But like, is that a mental disorder?
Kale Lowry
Yeah.
Lindsay Chrisley
Is that trauma? Is that like childhood trauma?
Kale Lowry
Yeah. We'll just be having a good time and I'll look at him and be like, you don't love me, do you? Like, you want to break up with me? You're not happy here, are you? You're not happy. I could tell you didn't say that to me five hours ago. And I know.
Lindsay Chrisley
I think our delivery is just different on the self sabotaging, you know, Like, I will burn that all the way to the ground.
Kale Lowry
No, I'll go to him and be like, you're acting kind of funny. Like, are you plotting to move out? Or like. Because he told me this story about, like a past situation, and I've kept it right here and now. Any time that I'm like, feeling really insecure about something, I'm like, oh, like, you're.
Lindsay Chrisley
You put yourself in that situation.
Kale Lowry
I'm like, you're plotting and saving your money so you can move out. I get it now. And he'll be like, what the are you talking about? And I'm like, just tell me if you're gonna move out in 60 days. Like, I need to know now. And he's like, the fuck are you talking?
Lindsay Chrisley
Our brains are like a vault because we self sabotage. We take situations from things that we know and insert ourselves into that situation. And it's like, okay, this makes me feel in control.
Kale Lowry
Why are we like this?
Lindsay Chrisley
It's. It's a disorder. That's all I. That's all I've got. Okay. What is your favorite snack food?
Kale Lowry
Cheez It Party Mix. The one with, like, the pretzels, the Cheez its. The little. They look like styrofoam balls, which they actually took that out and I don't know why.
Lindsay Chrisley
Isn't that just cheese puffs?
Kale Lowry
No, it's like a little. It's white and it was like a little. It looked like a styrofoam little ball. And I've been getting this. Checks this snack Party Mix by Cheez it. And I'm like, I literally, like, that is one of the favorite items in there. And they took it out completely. And I don't understand because it was probably Styrofoam. Yeah. They're like, actually, we shouldn't have people eating these.
Lindsay Chrisley
My favorite snack food. I don't really feel like I'm a big snacker, but I've been living off Doritos for the past two weeks.
Kale Lowry
That's a weird snack.
Lindsay Chrisley
Why? It's just like, love.
Kale Lowry
Yeah. But I feel like Doritos is, like, specific. Like, that's. That doesn't feel snacky to me.
Lindsay Chrisley
Okay, but do you also go down, like, this path where you want the same thing for, like, a long period of time and. And then all of a sudden you hate it?
Kale Lowry
Yeah.
Lindsay Chrisley
Like, you Wake up one day and you're like, that is no longer good to me.
Kale Lowry
Well, that's. That's our adhd because I have hyper fixation snacks and I have hyper fixation drinks and I have hyper fixation things.
Lindsay Chrisley
Doritos wore out. Its welcome on me.
Kale Lowry
Oh, really?
Lindsay Chrisley
Yeah.
Kale Lowry
And now you're done?
Lindsay Chrisley
Yeah, I'm done. Like, I cannot look at a bag of Doritos at all.
Kale Lowry
Interesting.
Lindsay Chrisley
Like, are you Cool ranch or nacho cheese?
Kale Lowry
So we do walking tacos sometimes. And those are nacho cheese, not spicy nacho. The nacho cheese.
Lindsay Chrisley
Yeah.
Kale Lowry
But like, if I was gonna eat a snack of Doritos, I would go Cool Ranch.
Lindsay Chrisley
Cool Ranch.
Kale Lowry
But sometimes they don't put enough seasoning on them. Also, I had this idea, so I was trying to figure out if I could make the seasoning from the Cool Ranch Doritos and put it on chicken.
Lindsay Chrisley
Oh, that would be good.
Kale Lowry
So I was like, they should sell that flavoring separate. Also if they do this, I want royalties. And I'm putting that out here right now. This is not the first time I've said it, so if it does happen, you owe me money. Put this, the seasoning on chicken or have you ever done the Ritz cracker or encoded your.
Lindsay Chrisley
Oh, yeah. Well, I don't cook, but I haven't
Kale Lowry
done the Ritz cracker thing that I can think of. I might have did it once, like years ago. But, like, you can like, basically make that the breading and then bread the chicken in it. We could do that with Doritos. Cool Ranch Doritos.
Lindsay Chrisley
You could, but that sounds, like, very unhealthy. You know what I mean? It's like you're. You're trying to do something good by cooking the home cooked meal, and then you're just like slathering that with something terrible.
Kale Lowry
That's why I was saying, like, the seasoning would be a better option.
Lindsay Chrisley
Remember when I sent you that article and it was like, all of these things are going to be banned in the US And Doritos were on it and I still went and bought them.
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Kale Lowry
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Kale Lowry
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Lindsay Chrisley
your most unhinged business idea or career move? I think this entire podcast is unhinged from start to finish, from first episode to current.
Kale Lowry
I really, I mean maybe killer sports because it's gone so quickly. I probably should have slowed down a little bit.
Lindsay Chrisley
No Us thinking that we're organized enough to go on a tour. Yeah, like that's crazy.
Kale Lowry
No, truly it is. I don't maybe pothead hair care because I mean Janelle lighting it on fire. But that was like a good move. Like I that marketing was crazy work, you know, in a good way.
Lindsay Chrisley
I hated the fact that you had pothead hair care.
Kale Lowry
People didn't understand the play on words. Like it was infused with cbd. And I don't think people remember when
Lindsay Chrisley
I told you I hated that name.
Kale Lowry
The name didn't didn't hit the way that it was supposed to because it was supposed to be a play on words like pothead. Not that doesn't mean that we smoke weed all day. Right? Like no shade to anyone who does. But like that wasn't the move. It was that it was CBD infused. So that was probably most hinged business
Lindsay Chrisley
idea that was not a business idea was being a part of reality tv.
Kale Lowry
Reality TV is a mental illness. Like to participate it in it is a mental like you have to have
Lindsay Chrisley
one to do it.
Kale Lowry
Because when I look at people like Bristol Palin who literally walked away from that paycheck and never looked back, I'm like, clearly you're not unhinged. Like the rest of us, like, you're a normal person.
Lindsay Chrisley
She just wanted to, you know, do real estate.
Kale Lowry
Good for her.
Lindsay Chrisley
Good for her. But no, it. It literally is a mental illness to be on reality tv. Okay. Worst sexual experience.
Kale Lowry
I forgot I had a tampon in. Our live studio audience is gagging. And Stacy. I'm never podcasting again in front of Stacey ever, ever again.
Lindsay Chrisley
A tampon in is crazy. Remember when he didn't feel it because
Kale Lowry
he was so small?
Lindsay Chrisley
Remember when I got so harassed by the audience when I was like, how could anybod ever have sex and not know that they have a tampon in? Like, how is it getting.
Kale Lowry
And then it happened to you, didn't it?
Lindsay Chrisley
No, it didn't happen. From tip to end. The tampon takes up my whole space. So how is that getting? Like, how is it roaming around?
Kale Lowry
The person that I was having sex with was so small, and I. Shit. Like, I'm not. Come here. Like, I'm not being funny when I say this. Based on a Google search, he has a micro penis. So that's how.
Lindsay Chrisley
That's also. Remember when I was talking about the article that I found really, really late night, where it's like, serial killers have micro penises, so really watch out with. Hey, come here, dude. Because I. No, no, no.
Kale Lowry
I fully understand now in this moment why people say, kale. I'm not talking to you because I don't want to be a subject of your podcast. I fully understand now because we be ripping people to shreds on here.
Lindsay Chrisley
I know. I mean, it's just so crazy. So those are the answers that, unfortunately, I'm gonna have to go with.
Kale Lowry
Okay, the next.
Lindsay Chrisley
Wait, can we go back to the tampon? Like, yeah, sure.
Kale Lowry
That was the.
Lindsay Chrisley
Because I didn't get my worst sexual experience.
Kale Lowry
Oh, I didn't. When your hair caught on fire.
Lindsay Chrisley
Yeah, when I was literally laid out. You know how you're supposed to be laying on a bed? Like. But I was like. Like, let's say if the mattress was, like, from the wall, you know, like, I'm laid out this way. Well, I was laying, like. And there was a candle. All on camera, there was a candle. And all of a sudden.
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Smell it.
Lindsay Chrisley
I smelled burning, and I'm like, what's burning? And all of a sudden, my hair is just in flames.
Kale Lowry
In flames. The smell of human hair on fire is so disgusting. Did I tell you about the time with the vacuum?
Lindsay Chrisley
What?
Kale Lowry
The vacuum.
Lindsay Chrisley
Recently?
Kale Lowry
No. First of all, I just want to say, like, do you think we're going to get fired from Podcast one. Yes. Stacey's going to go back.
Lindsay Chrisley
They go back.
Kale Lowry
We have it.
Lindsay Chrisley
We have a business dinner tonight with Podcast one. And immediately they're going to be like,
Kale Lowry
the dinner is off. Yeah, we have to let them go. Like, they were subject to this. And so this was not sex related, but when I was 10, so my mom had this thing. Like, my mom was not around a lot in my childhood. Right. Like, she was around, but she neglected me. Right. But I still had chores. So it did not matter whether I lived with her full time or not. I was doing fucking chores and they needed to be done when she got home from work.
Lindsay Chrisley
You were Cinderella with no siblings.
Kale Lowry
Yeah, exactly. And also no parents. And so I just knew that I had to vacuum the house before my mom got home. And so I'm home alone. Susie really preferred for all of the vacuum lines to be a very certain way with your footprints through them. Whatever, whatever. So this was back in. I mean, I was probably between 10 and 12 at this time. And follow the bouncing well here because it's the hair situation. I think I told you this, where I knew Susie was coming home. And you wait until the last hour before they were coming home to get everything done, because then it was nice and fresh and whatever. Right. And this was during those heavy vacuums. So there was no cordless, there was no sharks. This was like a heavy vacuum with a bag. And I'm like, oh, like, I gotta get under the couch. And so it was. I like took the hose out of the vacuum and I went to go vacuum under the couch. And so I am looking like this
Lindsay Chrisley
and the only this would happen to you.
Kale Lowry
The vacuum falls over and the bottom of the vacuum pulls my hair and it's spinning, spinning, spinning, spinning, spinning. And it's burning and I can smell it and there's nothing I can do. And the angle is so weird because my hair is caught in the vacuum. And I stayed like that until my mom got home.
Lindsay Chrisley
Mom came home and you were. The thing was still going.
Kale Lowry
Yes.
Lindsay Chrisley
What did she do?
Kale Lowry
I think I might have been able to pull the cord out. So it might like thinking that it was a purple vacuum. It was like a weird, like, burgundy almost. I want to say it was like a. Was there like a whirlpool or like a devil something?
Lindsay Chrisley
Dirt devil.
Kale Lowry
Dirt devil.
Lindsay Chrisley
It was.
Kale Lowry
Oh, my God. And so I think I might have pulled the cord out, but I was on the ground because I couldn't do anything at that point.
Lindsay Chrisley
Susie comes home from happy hour and her daughter's just, like, late, and I'm like this.
Kale Lowry
You know what? If I ever saw Susie again, I would ask her if she remembered that. Anyways, that is so I. I know the smell of burning hair from that. So I can only imagine, like, you're just, like, legs wide open, and now your hair is on fire. It was kind of the same thing, you know?
Lindsay Chrisley
And then, like, the patting it out and then still going is, like, crazier. You know what I mean?
Kale Lowry
It's like, I got five minutes in me, so the second my hair gets caught on fire, I'm done.
Lindsay Chrisley
Like, me.
Kale Lowry
You're like, hold on. Just put the fire out and keep going.
Lindsay Chrisley
Keep going, keep going. Okay, this person, Caitlin, I don't know how to say Chavez, says, do you lotion your butt crack?
Kale Lowry
No.
Lindsay Chrisley
Yes. I lotion every crevice of everything.
Kale Lowry
My butt crack actually so deep at all.
Lindsay Chrisley
But why? So, like, how does one get a deep butt crack? Like, is that genetic?
Kale Lowry
Well, I've always had a long butt.
Lindsay Chrisley
Is that, like the. Is like, that what they call, like, plumber's butt?
Kale Lowry
I don't know what plumber's butt is,
Lindsay Chrisley
but, like, hold on, I'll show you what it looks like.
Kale Lowry
The whole thing about, like, my butt crack, though, like, if I lotioned it.
Lindsay Chrisley
Yeah.
Kale Lowry
It would be so deep. And because, like, the lotion would then, like, rub, I end up. I think it would end up chafing.
Lindsay Chrisley
Okay, so lotioning process. Do you lotion or all. But do you lotion or all oil?
Kale Lowry
I lotion?
Lindsay Chrisley
I. Oh, but if I'm going on a trip, like, for this, I had to get a little lotion. But, honey, I will have that lotion going all which aways in every crevice.
Kale Lowry
Here's the. I'm also scared of my ph being thrown off.
Lindsay Chrisley
That's why you use, like, I'm saying, it has a ph balancer in it.
Kale Lowry
I literally said to Ike the other day, I looked at him and I said, I just want you to know that I've been thinking about this for several days. Thank you so much for never throwing my ph off.
Lindsay Chrisley
Wait, listen. Any man that throws your ph off, get rid of him now. It's a bad sign. Like, I am convinced at the point that your ph gets thrown off, it's because he stuck it somewhere else.
Kale Lowry
Oh, and did. Yes, and did.
Lindsay Chrisley
1000%. Wait, I've got to show you plumber's butt. I want to know if your butt crack looks like this. Not that it's really my business, but does it look like that.
Kale Lowry
So I'm saying like it's deep. Like if the, if this is the crack.
Lindsay Chrisley
Yeah. Like there's like a lot. Literally, it's like an onion. You gotta like peel it back.
Kale Lowry
Yeah. You would have to like Kylie C. 1984 said. Who are you talking about in all of these cryptic posts? Lindsay David, what cryptic posts are you making?
Lindsay Chrisley
Unfortunately, I'm gonna have to address quite a few things, but yes, you're gonna
Kale Lowry
do that on the Southern tea.
Lindsay Chrisley
Okay, I am. There's a lot, lots of things happening in my world. But yes, the cryptic posts are about that.
Kale Lowry
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Kale Lowry
related condition with diet and exercise. Ooh.
Lindsay Chrisley
Rate your best sex from all of your partners. Or maybe top three number one. I kind of feel like that's like throwing shade a little bit. Like were you trying to be a shady when you said. Or like at least the top three. Like maybe the top three meaning we're
Kale Lowry
talking about best sex.
Lindsay Chrisley
Yeah, but like was she throwing shade when she said? Or maybe the top three. Like as if you know there's, like, a plethora of people to go through.
Kale Lowry
I can still count on my hands, thank God.
Lindsay Chrisley
Well, me too.
Kale Lowry
I don't even think about them.
Lindsay Chrisley
Best sex. I mean, we don't have to say. Do we have to say the names?
Kale Lowry
Rate the best sex from all your partners? Or maybe top three? I think they're asking for names is my guess. My top three is everybody's worst nightmares.
Lindsay Chrisley
My top three. I'm not gonna say the names.
Kale Lowry
Okay.
Lindsay Chrisley
But what I will say is that I think that sex is based off of the, like, emotional and mental chemistry for a woman.
Kale Lowry
Okay.
Lindsay Chrisley
So somebody else might have had sex with this person and been like, that guy sucks, you know?
Kale Lowry
Yeah, for sure.
Lindsay Chrisley
So I definitely think it's, like, the mental place that you're in when you're doing.
Kale Lowry
I text you mine.
Lindsay Chrisley
I think there's something to be said for, like, very, like, long term. Long term, committed sex. I think that's, like, good for me, you know?
Kale Lowry
Okay, can you text me yours? Because I feel like you're doing, like, I just texted you mine.
Lindsay Chrisley
Okay. I think that you're gonna be surprised by mine. Tell me if you're surprised.
Kale Lowry
I'm shocked by two and three. I'm not shocked by number one.
Lindsay Chrisley
Like, you. You think that two and three, I guess number.
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Lindsay Chrisley
No, the one that you just text me. You're thinking that. Because I think that was a time of my life that I'm just like, oh, this is, like, fun, wild, and crazy, but, like, if I had it again, I wouldn't want it.
Kale Lowry
Oh, I mean, that's my number three, too. My number three. I would never want that ever again. You couldn't pay me.
Lindsay Chrisley
Yeah, but pay to is crazy.
Kale Lowry
You could not pay me to ever sleep with that. You couldn't pay me to look at that man. And. But three doesn't surprise me. I guess where he falls on the list surprises me. Number two surprises me through and through.
Lindsay Chrisley
So my list is actually, like, number one. It does not really have anything to do physically. It has to do with, like, the mental and emotional connection.
Kale Lowry
Okay.
Lindsay Chrisley
My number two was. The emotional connection was so strong.
Kale Lowry
Okay, that.
Lindsay Chrisley
That makes sense. My number three is because I was committed to that person for such a long period of time.
Kale Lowry
I'm deleting. I am deleting these because I'm not trying to hurt nobody's feeling.
Lindsay Chrisley
Can you just imagine, like, we just have a bunch of gifts, like, out there of us just, like, with our pinky fingers going like, it's rude as hell.
Kale Lowry
You're not tall enough to talk to me like that.
Lindsay Chrisley
You are not. You are absolutely not. Okay, let's see. You know, I was really hoping that this was gonna kind of die, and I feel like it just hasn't. But people keep asking, and I get DMS about this literally every day. Has Allison Cooch apologized to Lindsay?
Kale Lowry
Did she?
Lindsay Chrisley
And I don't think that you and I actually got to tell the story about how that whole situation kind of went down. That was when I got Covid and had the UTI and kidney infection. Remember that?
Kale Lowry
Yeah.
Lindsay Chrisley
And I was, like, laid out, and so I'm, like, on all these antibiotics. I've taken NyQuil, and Kale's, like, blowing up my phone. And I'm laying next to David, and he's like, hey, babe. Like, she never texts this late. Like, something's going on. And I'm like, what could possibly be going on? Please tell me why some fucking troll takes a screenshot of my story, makes a whole profile on Instagram, no photos posted, nothing, and starts trolling Allison Kuch pretending. Pretending to be me.
Kale Lowry
So I see this, and I comment on it, and I'm like, I don't think that's her. Like, obviously, I couldn't tell. And, like, what we know about laws and lawyers and defamation and this on the third, I didn't want to say for certainty, but, like, I think I know you well enough to know that that wasn't you. But I commented, and I'm like, I don't think that was her. And, like, people. Hundreds of people responded.
Lindsay Chrisley
I know.
Kale Lowry
And so I'm like, I have to tell Lindsay about this, because I like Allison. Like, I follow her content. I like her a lot. And so I was like, oh, my God. Like, she has to know that that wasn't actually you.
Lindsay Chrisley
Well, so I. Number one, I don't think that she knew who I was. And I, in fairness, had never even heard of Allison.
Kale Lowry
Well, what I mean by she has to know that wasn't you. Like, I wanted to tell her it wasn't you.
Lindsay Chrisley
Right.
Kale Lowry
You know what I mean? Like, I was like, she. She needs to know. Like, this is not. That couldn't be Lindsay.
Lindsay Chrisley
So I wake up the next morning, and, number one, I responded that night on the thing, and I was like, this is my photo. But, like, this is not me. I've got better things to do than, like, make a troll account. If I just want to say something about somebody, I'll just do it on my Instagram story. You know? It's like, what are you talking about?
Kale Lowry
Yeah.
Lindsay Chrisley
And so send an email to her team and ask, you know, for it to obviously be removed, that I didn't do it. And would she be willing to address the situation, not really asking for an apology, but just address, like, what happened. And they said no.
Kale Lowry
Are you serious?
Lindsay Chrisley
Yep. And I have the email to prove it. And then tried to make it confidential and respond. I responded back and I said, there's nothing confidential about this email.
Kale Lowry
I wonder if Allison knows that, though. Like, I follow Allison. I like I said I liked her. I like her. I had. I had her on Barely Famous. Like, I. She seems like someone who would.
Lindsay Chrisley
Is very reasonable just based off of that experience. No. And also, I private messaged her and never got a direct apology either.
Kale Lowry
That actually really upsets me.
Lindsay Chrisley
I would definitely feel like.
Kale Lowry
And again, I'm not in this situation, but if I was and I did this, I would feel like, okay, let me correct it and be like, you know, I'm sorry to whoever. Like, I thought this was really, like, who? I thought this. Who was who it was. I don't know. That just seems really weird.
Lindsay Chrisley
Yeah. So private messages, there was never an apology. And with that whole situation, when you are a public figure or you're putting yourself out there in the public for people to consume, whatever you're putting out there, there is a risk that you're running. And I'm not saying that it's right to be trolled, but there is a risk that you're running for random people to have all of these opinions about stuff. You are just as guilty as the person that sent that message to you when you did what you did to me and posted it publicly. Because somebody trolled you, so you trolled back the person that was me, but it wasn't me.
Kale Lowry
So do you think she knew who you were when she posted it?
Lindsay Chrisley
No, I don't. It was just very disheartening. And it's like, if I did that to somebody, which number one, I wouldn't, but if I did that to somebody and I knew I was wrong, I would publicly take a stage and be like, hey, you know, like, this was kind of fucked up.
Kale Lowry
Yeah.
Lindsay Chrisley
Yep.
Kale Lowry
That's deep.
Lindsay Chrisley
Well, now that we went so deep, we're gonna go deeper. Length, order,
Kale Lowry
both are important, but I would say girth is more important than length. Unless it's a micro penis. And obviously we have bigger fish to fry.
Lindsay Chrisley
I'm gonna go with, like, the average length. So, like, a six.
Kale Lowry
You know, I'm fine with average, like, six.
Lindsay Chrisley
Six and a half. But if it's six and it looks like a pencil. Don't pull your pants down. Do not. Do not come over here.
Kale Lowry
I am fine with, like, an average size. Like, I don't care. But, like, a little bit of girth is nice.
Lindsay Chrisley
I think the perfect. What is the perfect size dick for you?
Kale Lowry
His.
Lindsay Chrisley
Okay. I'm not asking. You were like, whatever he has. You were like me in federal court when they asked me when I was testifying, and they're like, can you identify your dad in the courtroom? I've never done anything. And I'm like, that man.
Kale Lowry
That man's right there.
Lindsay Chrisley
No, like, what's his name?
Kale Lowry
Like, Isaac. Isaac Sweener.
Lindsay Chrisley
Okay, but what. What is the perfect size? I mean, are you talking like, coke can or.
Kale Lowry
Oh, no, no, no, no, no.
Lindsay Chrisley
I'm trying to look and find.
Kale Lowry
Yeah, same. There's no objects that I really see. I. I'm going with it. It's a healthy length. It's a healthy girth. I'm. I'm fine with it. I'm good with it. I'm. I'm content. I'm happy.
Lindsay Chrisley
Six to six and a half inches, and I don't know how really to measure, but I'm gonna go with, like, that.
Kale Lowry
Now we're about the same.
Lindsay Chrisley
Yeah.
Kale Lowry
Yeah.
Lindsay Chrisley
Because if it's not hitting the walls, like, go to bed.
Kale Lowry
The cervix. The cervix. If it doesn't hit the cervix, you're out. Okay. Kaylee Elise says, when was the last time y' all pissed each other off? It's been a long time since.
Lindsay Chrisley
I can't think of a time that you pissed me off recently.
Kale Lowry
I think last time I was like, no, not lately. We used to get in cat fights a lot.
Lindsay Chrisley
Yeah. You and I are what I imagine, like, Mary Kate and Ashley would have been like back in the 90s. Like, yes. You know?
Kale Lowry
Well, I had gone to you a few weeks ago and I said, oh. And then she said this. And you were like, yeah, I told her that. And I was like, oh, like, it was you. And I was like, okay.
Lindsay Chrisley
Yeah.
Kale Lowry
Like, I don't get pissed off at you, really.
Lindsay Chrisley
Like, if I did something, I'm gonna be like, yeah, I said that. Let's see the next person says, what is the craziest thing that you have heard from each other? I can't list one thing.
Kale Lowry
I never know what's going to come out of your mouth.
Lindsay Chrisley
I never know what's going to come out of your mouth. Like, the play with your. Not me.
Kale Lowry
That was. I. Ike used to say that. That's why.
Lindsay Chrisley
Yeah, that was crazy. Like, it took me by surprise.
Kale Lowry
Yep.
Lindsay Chrisley
It knocked me on my ass.
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Kale Lowry
Okay, if you disappeared, what's the first crime people would assume you committed? Murder. Arson.
Lindsay Chrisley
Why? Why is that so casual? Like, why do we both say those things so casually?
Kale Lowry
Wait, is this, like, are we gonna go to jail for just saying that? Because I don't want them to say it's conspiracy. Oh. Because if my house ever caught on fire by an accident. If I. If my house caught on fire, I have seven kids. If my house caught on fire on accident. And they're like, well, they said on a podcast in March 1 of 2026, Kale said she'd go to jail for arson. Now I'm. Now I'm a conspirator.
Lindsay Chrisley
Can you imagine, like, that just happened? I mean, God forbid. Like, I so hope that it doesn't happen, but could you imagine that they pull coffee Combos podcast audio for evidence?
Kale Lowry
People do it to me all the time, and they try to submit it in court, so that would not surprise me.
Lindsay Chrisley
I have dated multiple people. Who? Their friends. And when I say friends, we think that we only have one guy. Listener. No, it's every person that I've ever dated. Their friends listen to Coffee convo podcast and use it as evidence against me every time.
Kale Lowry
And it's weird because nobody's ever pulling karma and chaos. Nobody's ever pulling barely famous. It's always coffee combos. And it never fails. Like, I was just in court three weeks ago. And they use transcripts from Coffee Combos podcast. This is the trial prep that I needed because I already. We have the transcript, so thank you.
Lindsay Chrisley
Oh, my God. Okay, so we have some Facebook group questions. The first one is, and I normally do not speak on this kind of stuff, but first question is, is what do the girls think of Savannah's most recent interview on the View? And while we don't speak or necessarily completely politically Align. I think that it takes a lot of courage and a lot of balls to be her age and to go and sit with women who do that for a living on a platform that is so widely broadcast and is something completely different than what she believes. Like, I'm proud of her for that. I don't want to make it a political conversation.
Kale Lowry
Yeah.
Lindsay Chrisley
I'm just saying her presence, doing that and taking that opportunity. I'm proud of her for it.
Kale Lowry
The next question is.
Lindsay Chrisley
Oh, wow. If you were being executed and you were given the opportunity for these final things, what would you choose?
Kale Lowry
Final meal, final phone call, final song to listen to or anything else you can think of.
Lindsay Chrisley
Final phone call.
Kale Lowry
No, I, I, I. No, I could not. No. I'm going Final meal. Back university, Big back university. Double cheeseburger ad Mac sauce.
Lindsay Chrisley
I mean, I just don't understand the final meal thing. I've never really been able to get behind it. It's like. Like, you're dying. What? Why are you doing that?
Kale Lowry
I don't think that I could face somebody in a final phone call. I don't think that I like knowing I'm about to. And also, I have seven kids, so unless they're all together, but then there are so many other people that I would want to, like, thank or, like, just tell them. I love that. So, like, one final phone call would not be enough. And I don't really listen to music as much as I used to, so I don't really care about that. It would be final meal out of these three options.
Lindsay Chrisley
I mean, I just think the final phone call would give closure to the person that was losing you. It's not really about you.
Kale Lowry
You know, I don't think that would give them closure because I probably didn't do it. Whatever I'm on death row for, I didn't do it.
Lindsay Chrisley
You said that you would go to prison for arson, but that.
Kale Lowry
Why am I on. Why am I on death row?
Lindsay Chrisley
You wouldn't be on death row for that. But, yes, I could see you as a death row inmate.
Kale Lowry
What did I. What did I do?
Lindsay Chrisley
I mean, I'd be there, too. Oh, yeah.
Kale Lowry
See? But you know what? I can honest to God say that I have never thought about killing someone ever in my whole life. And I'm not saying this because we're on a public platform.
Lindsay Chrisley
I cannot say that.
Kale Lowry
Huh?
Lindsay Chrisley
I cannot say that.
Kale Lowry
Ike and I have had conversations. He's like, someone breaks in the house, life or death. It's you or them. Could you kill somebody? No. The answer is no, but I mean
Lindsay Chrisley
when you're in a spur of a moment situation, let's say you're just like laid out with your man in the bed and some crazy person comes in there, it's like immediately reach for a weapon of some kind and try to take him out.
Kale Lowry
No, I. People overestimate how mean I am and over assume what I'm capable of. Ask Ike. I think he would tell you that he believes me when I say I could not kill someone, life or death. I think that. And I think anyone that talks to me believes me when I, I don't think I could do it.
Lindsay Chrisley
I'm at least blowing a toe off.
Kale Lowry
Like, like, I think that I would deep. What is it, like demobilize them. But I don't think that I could take a life in any way, shape or form. I don't.
Lindsay Chrisley
Because I don't necessarily think that's the intent. Right. Like when somebody's protecting their home, it's not like I'm shoot. Do most people think like I'm shooting to kill?
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Kale Lowry
Yes.
Lindsay Chrisley
Because I, I don't think that.
Kale Lowry
Yeah. And obviously like we're, we're talking about. I've never been in that situation. If I was put in that situation in real life, maybe I would have a completely different mindset. But like thinking about it like I'm thinking about myself in my room and like whatever. I honestly think that I would. Because. Distant cousin went to prison. He was shot first. He was shot first. Let that sink in. Shot first. He shot back in self defense and killed the person. And he went to prison for 18 months.
Lindsay Chrisley
That's crazy.
Kale Lowry
And the mother of that victim forgave him because she understood that that person was not in the right frame of mind. He maybe had been using drugs. I don't know the full details, but just from what I heard. And so in Delaware there's no self defense laws. And so whether you kill them or don't kill them, I, I feel like not killing them would get you the way that my conscience is set up. People think, the trolls specifically, and I know there was a comment in the Facebook the other day that was like, we like when Kale and Lindsay address the people who love, love them more than the trolls. But I think the hate is louder than the love. Sometimes the trolls really hate. They, they think that I'm a horrible, horrible person. But I genuinely don't think that I could ever kill somebody in any way. Like even if it was life or death. My conscious is not set up that way.
Lindsay Chrisley
Next question. I kind of feel like this is a troll. Like, I've seen that account before and it's like, you know when you've got your Pomeranian as your main profile photo, like, show your mug.
Kale Lowry
Yeah. You know, like Tanisha said, would you rather never feel anxiety or never feel sadness? I would rather never feel anxiety.
Lindsay Chrisley
Never feel anxiety.
Kale Lowry
Literally.
Lindsay Chrisley
I have high levels of anxiety, but I've never remember me telling you, like, after I had Jackson and I had like, all those, like, what were those thoughts?
Kale Lowry
Intrusive thoughts.
Lindsay Chrisley
Intrusive thoughts. Like, how can I get, like, so far to the shoulder that, like, nobody's gonna hit us in like, like, oncoming. I took medication, went to the doctor, to my general physician, and, you know, of course they asked you, like, all the questions and I said, I'm. I feel like this is anxiety and they're, you know, asking me to explain it. And they're like, yeah, that. That's definitely what that is. Would you like to be medicated for something? And you know how I feel about medication and I'm like, I don't know. They're like, well, how about this? We want you to try this for 30 days and then you're going to report back. We're not going to give you, like a long term prescription. It's going to be 30 days and then you report back. Second day, I take this medicine. I'm laying in the bed and I'm like, grabbing for stuff because I was seeing things. Like, I felt like, what meds was that? Yeah, it was an ssri and like, I felt like bugs were, like, crawling everywhere. I felt like a spider was in my eye.
Kale Lowry
Okay.
Lindsay Chrisley
Oh, I. I'm gonna pick one and you pick one.
Kale Lowry
Okay.
Lindsay Chrisley
Would you guys go on the Traders show? Yes. Like, if they cast Kale and I on Traders. Yes.
Kale Lowry
But my question is if. Okay, first of all, we should go on the same season and we should have opposite roles.
Lindsay Chrisley
Yes.
Kale Lowry
But if we did go on together or separate, would you want to be a traitor or a faithful?
Lindsay Chrisley
A trader?
Kale Lowry
I would want to be a faithful because people think I'm a traitor, and I want to show people that I'm not. Yeah, because I'm really not.
Lindsay Chrisley
I would want to be a trader. Wait, wasn't there somebody that was just like, on. What's that Andy guy?
Kale Lowry
Andy Cohen?
Lindsay Chrisley
Is he Bravo?
Kale Lowry
Yes.
Lindsay Chrisley
That was doing an interview with somebody that said that they were drugged at Traders, like, premiere party or whatever. Did you see that?
Kale Lowry
No, I just found out who Andy Cohen.
Lindsay Chrisley
I think it was Lisa Rinna, who's that you would know her if you saw her.
Kale Lowry
Okay.
Lindsay Chrisley
But yeah, that's apparently, like, drugged.
Kale Lowry
That's wild.
Lindsay Chrisley
She was. So if we went on the same season, you would want to be a faithful and I would be a traitor.
Kale Lowry
Okay, this one is.
Lindsay Chrisley
Why are you answering me? I said if we went on the same season, you would be a faithful and I would be a traitor.
Kale Lowry
Yeah, I said that too.
Lindsay Chrisley
But do you think.
Kale Lowry
But we just gave it away. That's why they won't cast us now.
Lindsay Chrisley
Oh, they will. Wait, didn't we meet somebody that was like a producer of Traders somewhere?
Kale Lowry
Did we?
Lindsay Chrisley
Yeah.
Kale Lowry
Why didn't they cast us? There's so many shows I want to do. I want to do the masked singer. I want to do Traders, Special forces.
Lindsay Chrisley
Remember when people thought I was a ladybug on Mass Singer, but it was Kelly Clarkson?
Kale Lowry
I would be Cynthia from the Rugrats. Okay. This is my. The one that I'm picking. And we should save the rest of them for another episode, but this one is by Ashley lynch, and her question is, who would you give the seat to first? And the picture is an elderly woman, a pregnant woman, a woman with a baby, or a man with a broken leg. I'm going with the pregnant woman or the woman with the baby. Those are the.
Lindsay Chrisley
I'm going with the elderly woman. There's something about. There's something about old people that, like, just has a soft spot, you know,
Kale Lowry
in my heart, I don't think there's a right or wrong answer here.
Lindsay Chrisley
I mean, the wrong answer is definitely the man with a broken leg.
Kale Lowry
I would, like, Honestly, there could be four men, and I would say nobody. I'm not helping the man ever.
Lindsay Chrisley
That's so messed up.
Kale Lowry
Is. Is.
Lindsay Chrisley
But look, I'm just looking at this photo and, like, look at that poor little lady's face. Like, why is she standing up?
Kale Lowry
Out. Maybe she was trying to get her steps in.
Lindsay Chrisley
She's not walking. He's standing.
Kale Lowry
But the woman that's pregnant might have preeclampsia.
Lindsay Chrisley
You're assuming that.
Kale Lowry
And the woman that is holding the baby might also be pregnant, too.
Lindsay Chrisley
Yo, that baby. Well, technically, based off of your experience, that could be possible, but I'm gonna go with no. Number one. Don't say that. I'm rage baiting you. But, like, those women chose those situations.
Kale Lowry
No, no, no, we're not doing this. When Lindsay, the woman chose to continue life. I want to die when I'm 60. Like, I don't. Don't ever worry about giving your Seat up for me because I'm gonna off myself. Do you know what I mean? Like, I chose to live that long.
Lindsay Chrisley
It's kind of like not a choice.
Kale Lowry
No, it is.
Lindsay Chrisley
It's like you just get old one
Kale Lowry
day, you don't have to.
Lindsay Chrisley
So you just go ikea. Okay, on that note, we have foul play.
Kale Lowry
Everybody just rage. But you just rage bait. It's not a choice. Hey ladies. I'll start with the obligatory love. I've been an avid listener of all the shows since day one. I have really enjoyed watching the growth over the past few years. We are around the same age and hearing life stories from you ladies has helped me never feel alone in my situation. I'm in. Now let's get into the story. To start, trigger warning. This is foul. Foul is also in caps. One night in my first year of college as a lively 19 year old, my boyfriend at the time and I took some Molly to have our own little party at home. We were getting down and dirty. But if you didn't know, guys can have a rough time getting it up while taking things like that, if you know what I mean. So we decided to be adventurous and try some butt stuff on him. I'm so disgusted even thinking about this now.
Lindsay Chrisley
Wait, she did the butt stuff on him?
Kale Lowry
To him? Yeah.
Lindsay Chrisley
Well, what kind of butt stuff can you do to a man? Just like peg him.
Kale Lowry
Yeah, I pegged a guy before. Anyways, I'm. I'm a happily married lesbian now. We were going hot. Oh, sorry. We were going heavy. His ass up doggy style and had anal beads all the way inside of him. He told me to pull it on, pull it out quick. So I did. He legit. Diarrheas all over me, all on my legs, on my hands. I left the room immediately and got in the shower. He changed the sheets and joined me in the shower. We never talked about again or did butt stuff. He later sent a video of me smoking a bong naked to my dad after we broke up. But that's the story of another episode.
Lindsay Chrisley
Wait, could you imagine like playing with a guy's and then they diarrhea all over you and then never mention it again? Like, could you wait? Every time, every time I'm doing that.
Kale Lowry
The next time one of my baby dads with me, I'm gonna say, and that's why I pegged you.
Lindsay Chrisley
Wait, you pegged your baby dads?
Kale Lowry
No, just one. Why'd you say all of them? You think all of them will let me do that? Just the one that asked for It.
Lindsay Chrisley
I actually, for a multitude of reasons, I believe all of them would allow you to do that.
Kale Lowry
Not Elijah.
Lindsay Chrisley
No.
Kale Lowry
No.
Lindsay Chrisley
But I really. He's kind of like the outlier baby dad.
Kale Lowry
Yeah.
Lindsay Chrisley
You know?
Kale Lowry
Yeah, for sure. Like, that's Alessandra's. Like, I'm editing this out.
Lindsay Chrisley
Wait, so how does pegging just, like, really start?
Kale Lowry
Well, so he wanted to put it in mine, and I was like, well, if you want me to do. If you want to do it to me, let me do it to you. And he's like, okay. But then I stopped because I didn't like it, and he kept going to himself.
Lindsay Chrisley
He was doing it to him own self.
Kale Lowry
Yeah.
Lindsay Chrisley
Oh, that's crazy.
Kale Lowry
I got out of the shower. I completely got out, and he was
Lindsay Chrisley
still going, just, like, ramming it up. So how do you just, like, casually get out of that situation?
Kale Lowry
I was upset.
Lindsay Chrisley
You were upset by it?
Kale Lowry
Like, my. It wasn't a pleasurable experience for me.
Lindsay Chrisley
Wait, did you cry?
Kale Lowry
Yes, I actually screamed, and then I cried, and then I got out.
Lindsay Chrisley
It's like, there's nothing. If somebody said they were gonna peg me.
Kale Lowry
My boss is here.
Lindsay Chrisley
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Episode: “The Most Unhinged Listener Q&A Yet”
Date: March 12, 2026
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In this riotously candid episode, Kail and Lindsie answer an array of wild, weird, and deeply personal listener Q&A submissions, selected live and sight-unseen from Instagram. As always, their banter is raw, unfiltered, and full of heart, traversing everything from co-parenting woes and sex confessions to snack obsessions and the perils of self-sabotage. Nothing, truly, is off-limits—resulting in an episode that’s as funny as it is shockingly relatable.
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Kail and Lindsie are in rare form—witty, irreverent, brutally honest, and always ready to skewer themselves just as much as each other. The episode is a mix of friendship therapy, reality-TV confessional, and pure comedy, punctuated by moments of real vulnerability. Listener stories and questions are answered with a blend of sass and empathy, making this a stand-out, must-listen for Coffee Convos fans.
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This episode truly lives up to its title—perfect for anyone who loves reality, real talk, and zero filter.