The Polly Pocket Airbnb

Summary

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Coffee Convos with Kail Lowry and Lindsie Chrisley: "The Polly Pocket Airbnb"

PodcastOne • May 14, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this lively episode, Kail Lowry and Lindsie Chrisley reunite in New York City—crammed into a hilariously tiny “Polly Pocket” Airbnb, as they affectionately call it, while gearing up for the Webby Awards. The pair dive deep into friendship, travel mishaps, city living, finances, femininity versus masculine energy, divorce, single motherhood, and the never-ending quest for work-life balance as public figures and moms. Sprinkled throughout are relatable rants, candid confessions, and plenty of laugh-out-loud moments.

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Key Discussion Points & Takeaways

1. The Polly Pocket Airbnb & New York City Antics

• Recording Location & Struggles with the Airbnb

  • Kail and Lindsie recount their misadventures trying to get into their “Polly Pocket” Airbnb—a collaboration with Mattel.
  • The lockbox debacle: spending ages trying to retrieve the key fob from a box tied to a tree across the street—despite help from both a six-foot-three man and confused landlord instructions.
  • Comparison of city living in Atlanta, LA, and NYC, especially how proximity doesn’t translate to ease (“in LA or New York, four miles can take 45 minutes”—[03:11]).

• City Differences & Lifestyle Observations

  • Contrasting suburban Atlanta to NYC, including constant sirens, lack of personal space, and the challenges of urban amenities.
  • “We went from Atlanta, from the suburbs to hearing fire trucks every five minutes.” – Lindsie ([03:05])
  • Kail remarks on her preference for more land and the practicality of going home from NYC versus LA.

2. Friendship Dynamics, Motherhood & Co-Parenting

• Friendship Evolution & Never Visiting Each Other’s Homes

  • Despite podcasting together since 2017, they realize they’ve never visited each other’s homes due to the nature of always working while together ([05:09]-[05:29]).

• Reflections on Co-Parenting During the Pandemic

  • Kail shares how COVID lockdown and court-ordered custody played out for her family, emphasizing continuity in her kids’ lives and lack of perceived lasting negative impact ([21:06]).
  • Lindsie found lockdown fostered self-sufficiency for her son and unexpectedly brought the best period in her marriage, as the forced time together improved their relationship ([22:10]-[22:24], [22:42]).

3. Finances, Influence Culture & Money Mindset

• Reaction to the James Charles GoFundMe Controversy

  • Kail expresses disdain for James Charles’ public shaming of someone seeking help, drawing on her own experience with lower-wage jobs and arguing for empathy over elitist criticism ([06:24]-[08:39]).
  • “Sending out a GoFundMe link is kind of tacky, but desperate times call for desperate measures, and, like, you could just not respond is the vibe.” – Kail ([10:07])
  • Both hosts discuss the dilemma of giving to GoFundMe, the rise in fake requests, and their personal boundaries on helping strangers financially.

• Rising Costs & Champagne Problems

  • Amusing conversation comparing their current “Polly Pocket” accommodations to last year’s larger Harlem rental, noting increased prices and reduced comfort as “champagne problems” ([10:52]-[11:16]).

4. Femininity, Masculine Energy & Single Motherhood Realities

• Struggling With Gender Roles & Provider Pressure

  • Kail opens up about feeling more “masculine” as the breadwinner and chief organizer (“I always have said that I'm a better father than I am a mother because I'm more of a provider.”—[34:56]).
  • Kail and Lindsie agree the mental load—not just the financial aspect—defines their experiences as single moms. Both share a longing for partners who would allow them to stay in their “feminine energy” while handling household logistics ([37:04]-[38:07]).

• Fashion, Body Image, and Outfits for the Webby Awards

  • The hosts compare their approaches to event styling: Kail opting for comfort over glam, Lindsie working through stylists but ultimately feeling you should style yourself ([29:13]-[30:22]).
  • Body image confessions: Kail reveals insecurity about her height and feeling “too masculine to be girly,” prompting supportive responses from Lindsie and the team ([31:03]-[34:09]).

• Honey-Do Lists & Division of Home Labor

  • The hosts fantasize about future relationships where they can delegate chores like yard work, with a humorous acknowledgment of their lack of mechanical skills ([48:01]-[48:37]).
  • Discussion about the surprising costs of maintaining large properties ($1,200/month for Kail, $280 for Lindsie—[50:11]-[52:30]) and nostalgia for dual-income households.

5. Hilarious Confessions & “Foul Play” Stories

• Outrageous Party & Bathroom Mishaps

  • Kail reads a “foul play” listener submission about a woman causing a scene at a party and leaving an unfortunate “present” outside a neighbor’s house, sparking stories from Lindsie about wild drunken escapades and public urination ([56:07]-[59:33]).
  • Quote: “If someone left a human turd at my house because of a party—I'm posting it on the local Facebook groups and tagging, no doubt.” – Lindsie ([60:50])

• Travel Mishaps

  • Lindsie’s saga of sleeping through an hour on the tarmac, getting her period at the airport, and their late-night NYC adventures ([15:35]-[17:46]).

• Parenting Bombshells

  • Jackson’s question to Lindsie: “Did y’all want me or was I an accident?” to which Lindsie reveals, with comic detail, he was very much planned ([54:42]-[55:52]).

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Notable Quotes & Moments (with Timestamps)

• “This is an Airbnb but we actually just collabed with Mattel. It’s just a B because it’s like one bed. It’s like one square foot.”
  — Kail ([02:13]-[02:22])

• “We were richer last year. In both [life and funds]. If anybody looked at this Airbnb right now... Alessandra is sitting on a toilet. She’s running audio from a toilet.”
  — Lindsie & Kail ([05:54]-[06:16])

• “James Charles, to my knowledge, has never worked in the service industry... you don’t know what it’s like and what it takes to be looking for a job right now.”
  — Kail ([08:08])

• “I’ve worked fucking wild jobs just to make ends meet. Ok—feet pics, McDonald’s, CC’s Pizza, dog grooming, dentist office, Hallmark, card store…”
  — Kail ([08:43]-[09:04])

• “Sending out a GoFundMe link is kind of tacky, but desperate times call for desperate measures... you could just not respond is the vibe.”
  — Kail ([10:07])

• “Decision fatigue—it is, it absolutely is... I know, like, yes, I am so blessed to have a landscaper texting... but I’m also in the middle of cooking breakfast and trying to get out the door to school…”
  — Lindsie ([42:36]-[43:02])

• “Mental illness.”
  — Kail on raising seven kids ([45:30])

• “We have open door policy. And that is insane to be divorced people... just walk in.”
  — Lindsie ([53:33])

• “If someone left a human turd at my house because of a party—I'm posting it on the local Facebook groups and tagging, no doubt.”
  — Lindsie ([60:50])

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Timestamped Segment Highlights

• [02:07] - [03:30]: The Polly Pocket Airbnb chaos, city comparisons.
• [05:09] - [05:39]: Realization that they’ve never been to each other’s homes.
• [06:24] - [10:21]: James Charles/GoFundMe debate and creator economy ethics.
• [20:16] - [23:26]: Pandemic effects on children, marriage, and co-parenting.
• [29:13] - [34:09]: Webby outfit planning, height/body image talk.
• [37:04] - [38:07]: The feminization debate and pressures of single motherhood.
• [43:38] - [45:32]: Lawn care, expenses, and masculine energy in solo parent life.
• [56:07] - [61:09]: Party foul stories and candid confessions about bathroom mishaps.

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Memorable/Relatable Moments

• The hosts’ confusion/frustration with New York City apartment quirks—clogged showers, cold water ([11:51]-[12:10]).
• Kail’s admission of peeing on the side of the road “every other day” due to her hectic driving schedule ([59:20]-[59:56]).
• Real-life struggles contrasted with their privileged platform—honest about “champagne problems,” mental health, and the desire for authenticity (“I’m just not with the fakery anymore.” —Kail ([01:56])).

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Tone & Style

Candid, self-deprecating, and unfiltered. Kail and Lindsie share both the glamorous and decidedly unglamorous parts of their lives, unafraid to dig into uncomfortable topics, laugh at themselves, and admit where they’re struggling. The episode blends humor with real talk about motherhood, womanhood, and friendship in the spotlight.

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For New Listeners

This episode is a quintessential Coffee Convos mix: chaos, candor, girl talk, travel trials, parenthood, and a willingness to tackle the topics most podcasts only skim. If you’re looking for realness, you’ll find it here—even (especially) when it involves city plumbing, open marriages, and Clorox wipes in a parking garage.

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Transcript

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[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

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[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

I hate gift giving and receiving.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

Receiving gifts is so weird. What do you say? Thank you.

This is Coffee Convos with Kale Lowry and Lindsey Chrisley.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

I really want you to be in your feels. Kayl.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

That does not interest me whatsoever.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

I feel very attacked by you. A spirited discussion about motherhood, friendship, family and life in the public eye. I'm just not with the fakery anymore.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

There's a fakery bakery around here.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

Here's Kaylan Lindsay.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

Rolling.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

Good morning and welcome back to another episode of Coffee Combos podcast.

[Ad/Promo Voice]

We are recording from New York.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

How are you?

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

We're recording from a Polly Pocket studio.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

This is the most insane thing that I think that we've ever done.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

This is an air Airbnb but we actually just collabed with Mattel.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

It's just a B because it's like one bed.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

It's like one square foot.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

I have never seen something like this ever in my life.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

The way that we could not get into this Airbnb last Night because the lock was in a lock box across the street tied to a tree. Could not get into it with a £230 6 foot 3 man. Could not get into get the ke fob to get into this building.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

The fact that we kept pressing buttons thinking that the narrative was going to change.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

The guy called us like, pull it, pull it, pull the thing. We're like, sir, we are pulling, we're doing our best.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

The amount of lockboxes that are over there, like the way that like New Yorkers do things is just like so very different than.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

It's fascinating though, cuz they're really resourceful.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

We went from Atlanta, from the suburbs to hearing fire trucks every five minutes.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

Last night I broke up the trip. Atlanta, LA, NY. And LA is equivalent to New York in that you could go four miles and you're gonna be in the car for 45 minutes. It doesn't matter if it is on the same block, it will take you 45 minutes to get there. In LA and in New York.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

Do you feel like it's been forever since we saw each other? Because I feel like it wasn't. But it was.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

The time frame has been one week, but the literally Sunday to Sunday and then. But it felt like a lifetime of things have happened in those days that we didn't see each other.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

I mean I've been in full blown state court.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

Yeah. And I've been in hell. Literally.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

So how was your LA trip though?

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

I hate la. So that's how that like more than New York. Yeah. New York is more convenient for me because there's something on every corner. And then also I can go home in two hours. I can be home in two and a half hours. Where LA is like I took a red eye home and again like it's so nice. The weather's great but like there's no chickens in my front yard. There's no in la. Like where we were, you couldn't have like land and a farm and like the houses are just as close together in where we were in LA and Beverly Hills as it is here in New York.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

Yeah, see, I couldn't do that. I feel like my houses are like closer together than what yours are. But not like this close.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

They're not. But you also have a yard and stuff. So it's like yes, they're close together but you still have a yard.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

Do you know that I have like 1.2 acres?

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

Yeah, that's like to me, if you don't have a farm, that's perfect.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

And how Many acres do you have?

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

I live on four and a half, but then Elijah backs up to me, so if you. And it used to be one thing, so it. Technically, it's six.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

But do y' all split and claim or you claim it all?

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

No, I mean, now that we're not together, we split. So, like, I live on four and a half, he lives on two.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

Makes sense. So people want to know how it was me hosting in Atlanta.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

This was the first time Lindsay and I have been podcasting since 2017, and that was the first time I've ever been to your house.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

Well, in fairness, I've only lived in that house less than two years. But, like, to one of my houses ever.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

Yeah, I've never been to any of your houses.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

I've never been to your house.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

I know. Just so weird. But it's. Because it doesn't. Like, there's never really a time for

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

it, because anytime we're together, we are recording or doing something for the podcast. It's like, we're not just gonna go shoot the and hang out on the couch.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

It's also usually not in our hometowns.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

Unless we're on a Mattel couch in New York City.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

New York City is really interesting, this trip. You know what I mean? We have not been in New York City together since this time last year.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

I will say that I feel like we were richer last year.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

In life or in funds?

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

In. Well, in both. In both. Because if anybody looked at this Airbnb right now, with what we're working with in comparison to what we had last year, where. Hi. Are you looking at me over there? Alessandra is sitting on a toilet.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

I need to take a picture of her just, like, on the toilet doing her work.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

She's running audio from a toilet.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

She's running. Okay, but can. While we're on the topic of finances, can we please dissect.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

Here we go.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

We need to dissect James Charles video, because I. It came across my for you page. Another creator screen recorded it. I did not see his video firsthand. Okay. Another creator screen recorded it, put it on her video, and then reacted to it. And then from there, other people did the same. So I've never seen the full one on James Charles's video, but basically he says that this woman, you know, lost her job when Spirit Airlines went away and reached out to James Charles and said, you could help me so much. Here's like, a GoFundMe link or whatever so she could pay her bills, and he ripped her to shreds. Basically saying that she could go get another job and people ask him for money every day. And, you know, it was just really distasteful. Honestly, the entire situation was so distasteful to me because people ask me for money every single day and I don't rip them to shreds.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

I mean, I think you and I have had many conversations about GoFundMes and we're kind of hesitant in regards to that because there's many. There have been so many fake ones that we ran across. But for somebody to like, rip someone to shreds because they sent them a message like that, like, no, you could literally not answer.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

All it took would just be to ignore it, delete it, whatever. But I also just want to say this. I've done collabs with brands where

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

you

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

create your own pattern or you create your own colorway of something. Okay. Try to follow the bouncing ball here.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

Trying.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

It's not difficult. Usually the brand does 90 of the work and you show up and you add a little razzle dazzle. They're putting out the entire cost, they're doing all of the overhead and get to collab and put your name on it and collect a percentage. Okay, I've done it.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

Okay.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

James Charles, to my knowledge, has never worked in the service industry. James. James Charles, to my knowledge, got.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

You know who the is, James Charles, he.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

I'm pretty sure he's like an OG YouTube makeup artist. So, like, you started from the bottom on YouTube. You've not worked fast food, you've not worked in retail, You've not worked in any of these things. So, like this makeup brand line that you've had and like, the things that you've done in makeup is all like. You don't know what it's like and what it takes to be looking for a job right now.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

And we can say that because Kale's worked at McDonald's and I worked at Wendy's.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

First of all, I've worked fucking wild jobs just to make ends meet. Okay.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

To me, I know you sold feet,

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

picks, feet pics, McDonald's, CC's pizza. Okay.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

Oh, you were a CC.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

Oh, yeah. Dog grooming salon, dentist, office, Hallmark. The card store.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

See, I wish.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

The buckle where I met my ex husband. The buckle where I met my ex husband. Forever 21 Hollister. Like, I've worked at these places. You know what?

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

I'm pissed off at Hallmark because if there was any business that, like, I could have, I feel like Hallmark makes so much money. Do you know Sometimes I pay 4.99 for a card.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

You could buy some card stock and, like, literally print that out on your computer yourself for, like, 99 cents. But we're out here going to Hallmark getting cards, and that's why I wish

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

I owned, like, Hallmark. Like, I wish I knew about it before somebody knew about it.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

Well, so I say all this to say that, like, James Charles's experience in the creator and makeup industry, you can't hold. Like, that doesn't hold a candle to the hard work that people. And what I was about to say was, I'm 99 sure that, like, the employment market right now is the worst that it's been in any of our lifetimes.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

For sure.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

Like, I mean, it's like Great Depression

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

vibes, you know, I love how Alessandra is just, like, taking the ugliest photos of me right now.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

So it's just. It's one of those things for me where James Charles is like, normally I would say that, like, sending out a GoFundMe link is kind of tacky, but, like, desperate times call for desperate measures, and, like, you could just not respond is the vibe.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

I mean, I tend to agree the amount of, like, GoFundMes and stuff that I get all the time now. Have I participated in some? Yes, because I think that they're believable. There have been some that I've run across that's, like, they literally just made that up and sent it to every creator that they know.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

Here's the thing. In the beginning, like, in the early years, I would send people a couple dollars here and there, even if I've never heard of them in my whole life. But now that my family is as big as it is, if I gave every single person $20 that asked me for money, I would be broke.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

But, like, why was our Airbnb so much better last year? I know this is, like, champagne problems, but, like, what happened to us?

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

Because last year we stayed in Harlem.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

Okay, well, I want to stay in Harlem next time.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

Yeah, I mean, that's fine. We just have to travel. I never.

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We are literally on the Upper east

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

side, and I'm like, no, Harland, where you at?

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

Aren't we east side, Lower east side,

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

Lower east side, whatever.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

This is where Brianna Chicken Fry lived, and she was paying $14,000 a month for her rent. This is. This is that area. So this.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

There's no way I would do that ever. What would be the most you would ever pay for a place like this? Because I think 900 is fair for this.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

The rent in this apartment right now is over $6,000.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

How many square feet? Let's guess how many square feet this is. I'm gonna say 7:52. I would say 752 square feet.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

This apartment.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

Yeah. But let me just like for a second because if you have ever been in a shower that does not drain and I'm standing in my funk. You know what I mean?

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

Nasty.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

Like I'm standing in what LaGuardia had all over the place. It's like the most disgusting thing.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

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[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

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[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

on the tarmac for an entire hour and I just went to sleep. Like, I am a queen of going to sleep on a flight before it ever even takes off.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

Do you take Benadryl or anything to make you. Because I feel like I know that

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

it's called my life makes me go to sleep.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

Okay, fair.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

I think the. The court thing quite literally took me out. And then I went on DND for two days, and then I did a packing and, like, reset day and then came here. So, no, I just need to sleep and put a whole blanket over my head. And the guy that was sitting next to me, he was like, we, I see you're moving, but we haven't taken off yet. I'm like, I thought we were there.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Why did you say falling?

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

You know, like, I'm, like, wiggling around.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

Don't touch me.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

And, like, also let me use your shoulder. You're not using it.

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[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

Wait. Why did he say, I see you moving.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

I see you moving? I don't know. I don't know if he thought like, something was wrong with me under the blanket. Like, I have no idea why he did this. Yeah. And he just, like, tapped on me, but my whole blanket was on top of my head.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

I don't understand. Like, this wasn't like.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

No, maybe you had a crush on me. Yeah. So I'm just, like, trying to. You know, I think that we've already gone up, we've come down. I'm about to get off the plane. Like, I'm gonna go get 99 cent pizza. Oh, no, we haven't left Atlanta. Then we get to New York. I get off the plane, go to the bathroom immediately started my period. Oh, actually, Johan's here with my tampons. So I just start my period, and then we get here and have the debacle of how we can't get into. Like, we're literally wrapped around a tree. Like, do you understand the level of diabolicalness that we are? We were, like, hunched over a tree, like, trying to get into lock boxes. Do you understand that? Sounds like you crashed a car and

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

wrapped it around the tree. With no context. You said we're wrapped around a tree. Might as well have been. We've got better phone with the Airbnb owner, and the lockbox is across the street tied to a tree. And we got to try every single one with each of the codes. The codes weren't working. The thing won't get open. It was literally midnight by the time we got in here. And Lindsay and I decide to order a pizza.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

And then it took way too long. And then I couldn't even wash my feet when I got in the shower because it was trapping water. I also didn't understand that, like, in the suburbs, when you turn on your water, it just automatically gets hot. I guess in New York City, like, that's a different thing.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

No, it comes from the depths of hell.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

Yeah, but, like, where does the water come from?

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

Where I'm at, like, it's a single family home. Where I think what is happening is, like, the water heater is probably in the basement. And then it has to be divided between 100 apartments.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

There's the tampons

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

Polypocket mansion. How can we help you?

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

Wait, what were we talking about?

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

We were talking about the tarmac, and then you thought we were. You. You went up and came down, and you couldn't wash your feet.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

I, like, couldn't wash my feet. And I was like, just it. Like, I'm gonna go to bed. Next thing I know, why is there a fire going on in New York City.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

There was a fire.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

Well, I'm assuming because there was a fire truck that wouldn't stop.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

I never heard it. No, we must have been asleep already.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

Do y' all live near traffic also?

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

No.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

So then how are you sleeping through that? I put a pillow over my head.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

I. And the craziest part is that the way that Lindsay and I's rooms are set up here is that there is a paper. Like, I heard you coughing, but I did not hear an ambulance.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

I coughed.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

You, like, made it sound of some sort.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

Probably have Covid. Sorry if I do.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

I mean, it's fine.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

I.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

Is it? As long as it's not Hantavirus.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

When we heard about COVID that I did not leave my house. Like, I planned Will's grocery store trips and sent him with Lysol and rubber gloves and. I mean, I was an extremist. Okay, so hypothetically, if this virus had a. Outbreak, which I hate that word. It is bad. Outbreak to me is as bad as, like, moist. I hate. I hate it. But if there was another lockdown situation, what would you do?

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

I don't want anyone to get sick, and I don't want anyone to die, but I would be so happy to be forced to stay home.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

Like a life break, right?

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

Yeah, it would be such a break for me, a break for the kids. Like, yeah. Like, at that point, wouldn't we just, like, get a house together and just meet each other there?

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

Oh, like, we're not going to live in it full time. We're just gonna go back and forth. I am not driving to Delaware.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

No, we'll get him. We'll meet in the middle.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

Oh, like a middle spot. Where is the middle spot of Delaware? In Atlanta.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

I would say probably Virginia, North Carolina.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

How do you feel like the first lockdown affected our children? And do you feel like they affected. You have multiples. So did it affect your children in different ways based off of age?

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

My answer might have been different, closer to coming out of quarantine the first time. But I'm not seeing any effects of that now. Like, I'm just not. And maybe. Maybe that's a hot take. I don't know. But I do not recognize any single thing in my kids now.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

Jackson was in first grade when we locked down for Covid, and I feel like he grew so much, like, individually, because he just had us that, like, he learned to be so much more self sufficient through that time. Like, he learned how to entertain himself in ways that I don't think he would have had the opportunity had he been at school?

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

I had. I gave birth to Creed during COVID at home in 2020. July of 2020. So that was like when I think we started coming out of the quarantine. Yeah, was around that time. It was the end of July, and I don't see any effects of any of my kids because Lux was only three years old, so he didn't know any different. I still had play dates with people. Like, there was still, like, in our community at that time. So, like, we. They were still socialized in some ways. And then Lux, Lincoln, and Elliot still had to go back and forth between my house and their dad's house because we were still doing 50, 50 custody. And that didn't prevent the quarantine and covet didn't prevent co parenting. So actually went to court with Chris during that time.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

Court was open.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

No, it was virtual. And it said in the order. It was ordered in the order at that time, you had to send the kids with the other parent unless they had Covid. Like any other illnesses you had to send them unless it was Covid.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

That's so interesting. I filed for divorce in 2017, and I'm convinced that Covid was the reason that it prolonged us staying together. It was the best time of our marriage.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

Are you serious?

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

Like, the best time of our marriage.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

And a lot of people say the opposite. A lot of people would say the opposite. That because they only saw each other, it ruined their marriage. Although me and Ike might as well be quarantined our entire relationship, because that's

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

all y' all do anyway.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

Three out of 365 days. We were separated for four. I love it. I love it.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

I feel like, because we didn't have the opportunity whenever we were married, because I was coming off of Chrisley Knows Best, so I was traveling a lot with Jackson. So Will was home alone by himself a lot. And then he had a out of home, like, working job where he went to an office every day. And so then when he finally got to stay home, it was just us and the dog. So we got to see each other in a way that we hadn't seen each other for years.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

I think a lot of people had different experience a lot. I think a lot of people ended up breaking up or new relationships formed during that time because you Covid shut then shut everything down. Anybody that you were dating or talking to, it was like, let's quarantine together.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

That is true. People did do that together.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

And that would either make or break the relationship because you're like, okay, I don't know this person. I'm gonna find out very quickly if this is going to work or not work. And I think that there's like a lot of stories to be told during that time.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

It's kind of like going on the first vacation. I read somewhere where. Or maybe it was like a tick tock, like when you get in a new relationship to take the trip so soon so that you can kind of like learn how each other travels and you're picking up on like how each other lives, daily lives, even though you're in another place. People were getting to experience that just through quarantine and Covid and do that very quickly.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

And then you don't have to worry about whether or not you have to decide if it's going to work or not because you're like, I'm gonna figure that out. Trisha Paytas and Moses did that.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

Oh, wow. Her now husband. Why does it feel like they've been married for a long time?

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

I thought they were married for like 10 years.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

Same. Because if you've ever seen like that dynamic, it just feels like old. You know what I mean? Like an old.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

True.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

That is true. Well, people are probably wondering why we're in New York and we are here for the Webbies. And I just, I feel like I love doing this, but at the same time, it's just like not ideal timing when they do it on Mother's Day weekend every year. Do you feel like the Webbies makes you nervous? Like you don't get nervous on a

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

red carpet with people because you never know how those pictures are going to turn out. And it's like you can post the best one on your own socials, but like those Getty images, if you look crazy in one single angle, that's the one that's gonna get blasted everywhere.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

Honey, There is a Getty image out there of me that they use on every single article that they decide to write about me every single week at this point. And it's like, can y' all just expire that one? Like, I've had retire it. Just retire it. But I guess it's because they pay for it.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

It's because we don't call the paparazzi on ourselves, so they don't have.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

That was so shady what you just did.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

We do not call paparazzi on ourselves, so we do not get to have multiple options of photos.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

Correct.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

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[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

want to be very clear people who are going through LaGuardia that have TMZ just there on standby, it's because they called or their PR called Shots fired.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

Who did that?

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

I'm not saying. I'm just saying that I feel like I get so nervous to do a red carpet because I feel like I'm either going to look, like, the wrong way or, like my pose is gonna be the wrong way, and I'm gonna look back on it and be like, wow, we spent so much time getting ready and that just looks shitty.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

No, that's also a thing. And, like, we know how out of touch we sound right now. But also when you're on a red carpet and you're like, great. I just know that that picture is going to be diabolical, and it's going everywhere. There's nothing we can.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

It's always the diabolical ones that go everywhere, right? Like, the really good ones we think go badass.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

And then it's like. Like, that's the picture. Like, all this for that.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

I hated my Webby look from last year, so I'm excited to have something else to post. Like a new year, new me, because it just wasn't. I feel like I settled on that because also, again, it was last minute and also got a stylist. And I'm so glad that I didn't get a stylist this year because I think that if you take the time to style yourself, you know yourself the best better than anybody else, and so I just think the results probably going to be better, but. Tbd.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

Tbd.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

Speaking of outfits, though, for the Webbies, can we walk through what the process looks like selecting an outfit? Because I feel like our processes would be completely different. Obviously, we both use. Didn't we use the same stylist last year? Yeah, yeah, use the same stylist. I actually loved your Webbies look. It was very you. I just feel like the color of what I wore was me, but the vibes weren't really me.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

I think, too, the Webbies is kind of cool because you see people that have all different styles at the Webbies. So, like, it. You don't have to wear a gown, right? Like, you don't have to wear a gown and, like, do this whole, like. Like, you can dress down or you can dress up and it won't matter. Like, you'll still fit in at the Webbies. Like, that's the cool thing about it. So, I mean, it's not like the Met where it's like. Like this year, I didn't really have to pick out an outfit for the Webbies because I bought a bunch of stuff for a wedding that I went to in November, and I didn't return any of the ones I really liked because I was like, oh, something will come up that I'll need this. So I just kept all of that, and then I just used one of the outfits I didn't wear to the wedding.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

It's so funny, because I feel like you show up way more casual than I do, and I sometimes feel like when I see you get dressed, I'm overdressed.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

No, it's just my style.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

It's just, like, a difference of personalities.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

I have not worn a dress since 2016. And when I think about the way that I felt in that dress and the way that I walked in those shoes, I realized that I should have never been in a dress in the first place.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

What do you mean, walked in the shoes?

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

It was like a dinosaur. Like a T. Rex picture. Picture a T. Rex.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

Is it just because you don't know how to walk in heels?

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

Or was it, like, those shoes specifically?

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

No, it was both.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

Okay.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

And I learned on Friday that I'm 5 9, not 5 8, and I want to jump off a bridge.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

So that's so interesting. Did you grow an inch somewhere, maybe from having kids?

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

The craziest thing is that I was always 5 7, and it took a lot for me to accept that I was actually 5 8. When I went to go, like, renew my license or something. Like, it took a lot. I was like, I'm five eight. I don't know. And then Becky told me on Friday when we were recording. She was like, kale, you're five' nine. And I said, no, the. I'm not. I said, maybe with shoes on a tape measure. Yeah, we did.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

And you really are. I'm five four and a quarter. But I lie on my license and say, I'm five' five. Is that a federal crime?

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

Apparently, I'm a criminal then, because I'm five' nine and I'm not okay with it. Like, I'm very unwell. About,

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

like, Hurts your feelings? Like, you want to be shorter?

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

Yes.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

Like, to what degree? Like, how short.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

I feel so masculine and always have. Like, since I was such a small child with the desire to be a girly girl. But I. That's why I got all these tattoos, because I was like, I'm already masculine. It doesn't matter. Let's just get covered in tattoos. It won't matter. And, like, I just don't feel girly. Like, I am too big to be girly. I'm too linebacker to be girly. I'm too.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

Like, that is untrue. I mean, I know that that's, like, how you personally feel, but it's just untrue. Like, I feel like so many people that are tall and, like, bigger boned are still girly.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

Name one.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

I mean, I don't want to name one. Me. Me. I'm very girly, and I'm super tall. Alessandro.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

Wide shoulders. Yes, that's. So Lissa is here and she's saying, because I feel like I take up space, and that is masculine of me. So, like, when we went to LA and I was doing the WWE training, I wouldn't let this guy pick me up. He was probably five eight, five, seven, five, eight. He's a literal WWE wrestler. And I would not let him pick me up because I said, I probably weigh more than you. I'm not even going to give you the opportunity. But he lifts guys that are heavier than me. But I felt so, like, Matt is smaller than me, both weight and size. So then I'm like, okay, well, he's not picking me up. So I had. I get in the ring to do what I needed to do because I was. I feel so masculine and manly that, like, putting me in a dress and heels feels like. I don't know how to describe what I'm.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

Part of me doesn't feel like that has anything to do with your body type. I don't feel like you would be a dress where regardless of what your body type was.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

I also think that all of my partners being smaller than me plays a role into it. Because it sounds good. Like, in theory, oh, yeah, I want to date someone who's no. No shorter than six feet. But, like, the people that I have been surrounded by my whole life, no man. No men have been over six feet. So, like, the gene pool is not great. So I'm with partners who weigh 150 pounds soaking wet. It.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

I sometimes feel masculine.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

Really?

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

Like, in my energy. Yeah, but sometimes I feel like you develop a masculine energy over time. I think mine's been through trauma. Like, I'm not naturally masculine, but there were roles that I had to take on through various different relationships that I feel like I have become more masculine and I want to get back to, like, my softer feminine energy.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

Yeah, I can relate to that a lot, I think. Not just, like, I would say, since I was on 16 and pregnant. I mean, I've always been the breadwinner. I've always been the One that is the making sure. Like, the mental load, the financial load, the. All of the things. So even if it's not me physically doing it, I'm paying for it.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

Yes.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

And so that also contributes to, like, I always have said that I'm a better father than I am a mother because I'm more of a provider. So when we're talking about, like, masculine energy, I think that, like, traditional gender roles are still, like, really, really ingrained in my. In my brain. So even if I'm not physically the one that is cooking, or I'm not physically the one that is cleaner, I'm not physically doing X, Y, and Z. I'm paying for it. Like, it's my funds doing it, and that's with or without a partner. So to me, it's like I am more of the traditional provider that men have always done, like, year, like, for decades. Right. So I think that contributes to it. And I don't. I don't want to perpetuate that narrative. I don't like to perpetuate it, but I don't know how to change my mindset when it comes to that. And so I've always, like, me getting my nails done is the girliest thing that I do, right. Like, I wear merch every day at home. I wear sneakers. I wear. Like, I don't do anything that's, like, super. Like, me wearing pink feels wrong. Even at home, when I do my makeup, it's, like, very. Just regular.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

But I still feel so girly. And I don't wear makeup every day. Like, most of the time when people see me, I am no makeup, and I'm probably in a sweatsuit or, like, a pair of biker shorts and an oversized shirt. But I still feel girly. But I very much have struggled since my marriage because I felt the most feminine in my marriage because Will did all of the things that I now, if I can't do them, then I have to hire them out. Like, the lawn work, like, all of the outside work, cleaning out gutters, like that kind of stuff. And I was able to be in a kitchen. And I'm again, not trying to perpetuate it either, but it was where I felt comfortable, and I want to be able to get back to that feminine energy because that's where I feel the most comfortable. But it's very heavy as a mom, when you are a single mom and you are a sole provider to either hire all of that stuff out and have it on your plate, or you're doing all of that extra stuff as well, on top of being a mom and being a nurturer.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

Yes. All of what you said, I don't even have to add anything to it because that's essentially what I'm saying, too.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

So do you think that there is a reality where we could both provide financially for our families and still feel feminine? No, I agree with that. And some of that has to do with my raising. I think growing up, growing up in the south. Not saying that no one else in the household brought finances to the table to some degree, but my dad was always the sole provider. Like, he was always making sure that there was money for groceries, making money, making sure that there was money for school, making sure that there was money for trips. Like, if he wasn't out cutting grass. But he was the one hiring that stuff out. He did all of that stuff to make the house be able to function. And I feel like I'm. And some of it's by choice because I chose to get a divorce, but I feel like I have to do all of that stuff.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

And that's what makes me sad to not have a partner to where I can be in my feminine energy. But also I've picked partners since my marriage that I feel like didn't allow me to be in my feminine this

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

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Even when I was married, he didn't do any of that stuff. He did not mow the grass, he did not clean the gutters, he did not. Those things were still. I hired that out even when I was married. So I don't know a life where. Because by the time I was even with Elijah, he would have done that stuff. But with the three kids that we had so quickly, there was not a whole lot of time for him to do that stuff. So, I mean, there was some, some a period of time where it was only him. But then I started to hire that out too.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

And my life just completely changed in every sense from the time that I got divorced because my income was allowed to either be saved or it was used how I wanted it to be used. So if I said, hey, I really want to take us on a trip, you could do that, then I could do that. And it made me feel so feminine. It wasn't required for the household to run. To run. Yeah.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

None of it's about the money. It's about the mental load of it.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

It's about the responsibility behind the money.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

Like, it's the thought behind it. If someone else took it off my plate and was scheduling the landscaper and scheduling this and scheduling that, I, yes, I'll make the money, I don't care. But I need someone else to do the planning like this. It's never going to be 5050 because nobody makes money like us. And I know that's out of touch, I realize that. But what I'm Saying is, because we're making the money and doing the planning and doing the hiring and doing the

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

structuring the money and the decisions.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

Yes, but if I was to be able to make the money and someone else planned everything, I think I would have. Over time, it would not be right away. I think over time, with the trust and letting my walls down, it would be okay. But. But I mean, do not let only one person oversee your finances. Letting one person have full control of their finances is the worst decision you could ever make.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

I would agree. I think it's the. The mental burden of making the decisions.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

Decision fatigue.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

It is. It absolutely is. And I know, like, yes, I am so blessed to be able to have a landscaper text me and be like, Ms. Lindsay, do you need your yard done this week? Yes, but I'm also in the middle of cooking breakfast and trying to get out the door to go to school and do all of that stuff. If I was still married, he would be doing those conversations or he would be doing the job right.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

And then it's not even. It's not a thought or an afterthought. You just know it's done.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

Like, I just came home and pulled in the driveway and the grass was cut, you know, like, the. The bushes were trimmed, the gutters were cleaned out, the porch was blown off or pressure washed off.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

Does Will do all that stuff at his own house or does he work so much?

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

Yes, he makes me jealous.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

He does it himself. So that's an expense he doesn't have.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

Correct. And he cuts his grass twice a

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

week, so that's also an expense he doesn't have.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

And I wish that I still had that, because the way that he keeps a lawn is, like, meticulous.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

That's also, like, I would love to have that where I'm not having to pay for that. You know what I mean? Like, I would love to have some. Like, I don't want to pay for that stuff because, I mean, my. Like, I said, I live on four and a half acres, so I'm paying. I think the bill I just got was $1200. And it's like, that's somebody's mortgage. That's somebody's rent. That's two car payments. Like, that's a lot of money that I could be saving over $12,000 a year if it was just.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

But let's get into this conversation because I feel like Will was so anal about lawn care and, like, his responsibilities around the house that sometimes I would get pissed off because I'm like, okay. We're just sitting in the house chilling. And. Yeah, like, laundry might be going. I might be cooking breakfast and cleaning up a kitchen or whatever, but he's outside and he's not spending any time with us. If I was still married, and let's just say in a hypothetical situation that we never divorced, would I have tried to encourage him to hire some of that out, like, every other weekend? He enjoys doing it, but, like, to give us some freedom back to be able to spend time as a family. Because it was always chores on the weekend.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

But then it's also dual income.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

Right.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

So I'm one person with one income.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

Yep.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

Not. I mean, I'm not one. I'm not one income, but, like, this line of. In, like, this industry is wanting. You know what I'm saying? So all of the. All of these expenses are coming from one person, one income. If you guys decided to hire it out, it wouldn't solely be out of your pocket. Right. Like, but. But to be fair, I mean, nobody told me to have seven children, so.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

Yeah, I don't know how you do that at all. It is the biggest mind to me to know that somebody raises seven to my one, and I'm like, how?

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

Mental illness.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

Like, it has to be somewhat of a mental illness, but, like, I know a lot of people do it, but

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

even if I didn't have seven kids, I guess I'd still have to pay those bills. Like, I'd still have to hire.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

Your yard's not going to change.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

If I'm being honest, I don't. I wouldn't even know how to turn on a lawn mower myself. So, like, cool. Could you show. Could I show my kids to do it? Could they do it? In theory, but, like, I've never done it. So, like, even a push mower and a one that you sit on, I would have no idea.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

I also would have nowhere. No idea how to do it. But one time I was pulling into Pilates, and I had, like, leaves all over my yard. So I text Will, and I was like, hey, whenever I leave Pilates, can I come by and get your blower so, like, I can borrow it? And he was like, what are you gonna do with it? And I said, blow leaves. And he was like, no, you're not. I said, yeah, I'm gonna blow leaves. He says, lindsay, you couldn't crank that thing if you tried.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

Becky bought me a leaf blower for my wedding gift.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

I know you said that. I feel like that's the most lesbian wedding gift ever. But I Love it.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

Honestly. We needed it, though, for that neighborhood, so it was. It was great. And it was a backpack one, so that one was easier. I never was able.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

I saw you with a back blower. Like, if I literally saw you with

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

a backpack blower, I couldn't start it myself. But once out of it, once it got started, I would put it on my back and I would blow the leaves.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

See? And people ask me all the time about, like, links to my pressure washer and, like, my blower and, like, my outside stuff. Y', all. These are either you plug it in and you just, like, press a button and go, or you pull the battery out and charge it and put it back in and then blow.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

This is also the woman that has seven vacuums, so I don't know that

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

I should have shown you my vacuum collection when you were at my house.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

I want my. My inspo is your level of clean. Power wash, pressure wash.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

But would you do it?

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

No, I want Ike to do it. Ike's gonna do it.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

So this is the, like, hiring out

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

that we're talking about.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

This is like, husband chores.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

Yeah, this is husband chores. And this is also, like, I don't. We've only spent four days apart in 365 days. So, like, that will be our time apart is like, him to do those chores.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

Okay. Do we believe in, like, honey do list?

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

Honey do list? Yeah, absolutely.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

But, like, where are you writing it down? Or like, first of all, I've never

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

written one, but I want to. Like, that's the goal when we move is like. Like, here's the list of chores, the honeydew list.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

And, like, what would be on it? It.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

It's going to be pressure washing, cutting the gr. I'm not hiring that stuff out. When we move, we're going to figure it the out. I don't care if he has to teach me to do it. I'll throw an audiobook on. Well, the boys are going to start farm chores this summer, so that's the other thing. So they're going to be the ones Ike is going to show the boys.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

I will tell you, I will never, never will I ever date another man who does not do manual labor.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

No, I want to. I mean, hopefully this is the forever so. So y' all can work together to teach you and the boys can teach each other how to do the stuff. Because when we move, those are expenses I'm not taking with me. I promise you, I'm not.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

Well, it's.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

So how much do you think your bills are for like the. To run a household. Like, I'm talking the stuff that you do not have time to do yourself. I'm talking the landscaping, the pressure washing, the things.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

I am the pressure washer. So that is free other than my time. And that is also therapy. So like I am double dipping on that situation. Like, I am getting therapeutic something out of that that I feel alive. Like, you don't understand the level of liveliness that I feel when I am hidden. Those cobwebs when I'm getting a stain off. Like, it is therapy. So I. I feel like that is $0.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

Okay.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

Except whatever. It's adding up on my water bill, which is probably a lot.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

Oh, I have a. Well, so I don't have a water bill.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

As far as the grass cutting and like, what do they call that like, thing that like goes on the edges?

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

Edging.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

The edging. But like that other thing that they use to like get off weeds, you know, like it's got that rope on it, you know, like a weed whacker. Yeah. I feel like between those things, like the, the clipping, the bushes, the weed whacker, the edger and the grass cutting. $260 for me last month.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

That's it.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

Yeah. So I feel like it's kind of cheap, but it's still. I don't want to spend it. You know what I mean?

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

Wait a minute. Let me look up my bill because that can't be right.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

That's right. I literally have a text. I can show it to you.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

My April bill for just cutting my grass. This does not include edging rock beds. Nothing.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

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[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

You only pull weeds one time a month?

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

They should pull them more.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

Like.

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[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

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[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

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[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

That feels like not sufficient. Okay.

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[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

lawn care, it's going to be 280. I said 260. But you know, whatever. 280. I feel like that's good. I feel like that's. That's cheap for like the quality of work that I'm getting.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

Looks great.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

It looks great even. So much so that my ex husband commented on. My weave was showing on my hair, but my. My grass on my lawn looked great.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

Can you show the clip of Will singing entering your facility, your house?

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

So we're gonna make a tick tock using this sound.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

We are. But y', all, this is crazy. So I think the man forgot that I had cameras. Or maybe he just like genuinely didn't care.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

I need to know the song he was singing.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

Okay. So hold please. This is called ADHD combos. Okay, so this is what he looked like. Hold on. Here's a couple of things wrong with this video.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

No, we're making a tik tok talk. Also singing to his voice.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

There's just a couple things wrong. Like number one, we have open door policy. And that is insane to be divorced people.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

Yes, it is.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

Like just walk in.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

Like that lasted for me and Javi for about two years.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

But just to like walk into your ex wife's house and you need to hype yourself up so bad that you're out there saying, take it easy, easy.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

And he's whistling and having a grand old time.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

A grand old time.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

We love and we stand.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

Will we do. Just him saying that like my weave was showing was just like kind of Insensitive on Mother's Day, you know, like, oh, well, Will is very animated. And that's where Jackson gets a lot of that from. Okay, like the animation?

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Does he also have adhd? Severely undiagnosed or diagnosed.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

Can you imagine me and Will and Jackson in a house like. Like, all adhd?

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

No, ma'. Am. Me, Lux and Creed are enough like it.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

I'm surprised that we ever even made it past a first couple dates, let alone married 12 years in with a kid.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

Damn, y' all were really together for so long.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

So long. Oh, you know what Jackson said the other day to me? He said, did y' all want me or was I an accident?

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

Both.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

No, he was not. He was planned.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

Are you serious?

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

He was planned. So much so that I held my legs up and put a pillow up underneath my ass because I read that that would get you a bo boy, like, propped up in our 700 square

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

foot apartment, was it smaller or bigger than the one that we're in right now?

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

Smaller. It was one bedroom, one bathroom, a tiny little, like, kitchenette. And I thought that we had truly made it because it was like ours and like, nobody else could have a part of it. And we had a new couch from rooms to go. And I thought, like, we had really done it.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

And you did. But wait, what was the conversation about? Like, were you like, let's have a baby?

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

Yeah, like, we're married. Like, what are we doing? Like, I'm. Well, okay, So I had. I had a girlfriend that had gotten pregnant like, a little bit before me, and she had told me these stories about it taking, like, other people that she knew a while, and she was like, it doesn't always just, like, necessarily happen off the jump. So we got married in January, and I was four weeks pregnant by Mother's Day.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

Okay, on that note, foul play. This is called parent parties. My parents had a good friend that used to throw parties for playoffs, boxing matches, etc. These parents could really turn it up and the alcohol would flow.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

I love these parents already.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

My mom calls me one morning after one of these parties, hysterically laughing to the point she almost couldn't speak. Here's what had her so entertained. One of the guests the night before brought a new boyfriend to the party and was really out to impress him with what a great time she could be. My mom said she spent the whole night throwing back drinks and loudly sharing stories of her sexual exploits or telling her boyfriend all the things she wanted to do to him. All of this was open for everyone to Hear and was, quite frankly, obnoxious to other guests. The hostess had been friends with her for years and tried to get her to slow down on the drinks because she was getting sloppy. At the end of the night, the boyfriend was half carrying her out the door. Jump ahead to the next morning and a neighbor knocks on the door. He asks the hostess if she wouldn't mind coming outside to clean up her guest from yesterday.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

Oh, her guest.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

Like, if she would. If she wouldn't mind coming outside to clean up her guest from his driveway. The hostess follows him outside, thinking there may be some empty beer cans. And his use of the word was just euphane. Euphemism.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

Euphemism.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

Euphemism. Euphemism. Nope. Neighbor points to a huge pile of human sitting in the gutter. This is too far by the driveway. She knew it belonged to her friend because their car was parked there. She took a photo of it and mentioned it to her friend to come get her drunk ass over there now and clean it up. Her friend did show up and clean it up and had to apologize to the neighbor. According to the boyfriend, they were leaving that night. She pulled up her dress and squatted, and before he could even react, she used her panties to wipe, then threw them in a bush nearby. Got in his car and wanted to give him a BJ on the way home. He was so turned off that he broke up. Broke up. He broke up with her that day. My mom happened to be there for the whole show because she doesn't drink and drive and stayed over. The friend never came to another party. This is the the story on the bench, Bone. The night I got pregnant with Rio.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

But was there drinking involved in this, or did she just bone? Yeah.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

So drunk she thought she was sitting on the toilet when she. On my mud room bench.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

Well, I told you about that story about the sorority saga when I went to Miami for spring break and the girl that we were sharing a room with went and sat in my best friend's suitcase thinking it was a toilet and pissed all over her stuff. We had to find a laundromat to go and clean all of her stuff up because she pissed all over it. But I am gonna tell on myself. Yesterday, when I got to the airport, like, I started freaking out because I'm like, I literally cannot miss this flight. And I've gotten to too very comfortable cutting them too close or just missing them all together. So I'm like, I cannot stop and I have to pee so bad. First thing I did was put my Car in park.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

Pee on the side of the road.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

No, I worse.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

You peed your pants.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

I opened the door to my driver's side and to my passenger side, and I sat, like, on the little ledge. Like, not inside the car. Like the runner.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

And I just peed. And I'm like, if anybody sees me. And it was, like, trickling, like, all the way down through the parking garage. And I'm like, if anybody sees me. And probably something's wrong with me because the only thing I had to wipe with was. Was a Clorox wipe.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

Did it burn?

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

It burned, but, like, I just did it anyway.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

I hate to say this, but I pee in public more often than I should be admitting.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

Like a biohazard?

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

No, no, because I pee on the side of the road. I would say every other day.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

But, like, why are we doing that to ourselves?

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

Exit there's. I live in the middle of nowhere. So where Lincoln had to play soccer, where we live, I missed every opportunity there was to go to the bathroom. I literally. I think Ike pulls over every other day for me to pee on the side of the road, and I his. His on in his Jeep. The, like, step thing. The runner comes out.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

You open the door.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

It's a perfect place.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

So then I sit on that like it's a toilet, and then I pee. And, I mean, that happens so often that it's. It's can't be normal. But, like, I also don't think that people drive as much as I do. I'm not just driving around Delaware. Like, I'm driving from state to state every day. Obviously, that's exaggeration, but, like, you understand what I'm saying?

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

Remember when you used to tell me, like, I'm rip Ripping and running Delaware? Yeah. Like, that's crazy. I really don't drive that often. Like, I go to, like, five places in my whole life. But to go to the airport, it's over an hour from my house. I should have thought ahead and impede before I left my house. I also thought about pulling over in traffic because I'm like, I'm really not going anywhere anyway. Like, it's like a twofer, you know? Like, I'm gonna get a pee and I'm going nowhere is crazy. Well, that's all I had. And if you think that I'm just, like, not, like, dabbing myself dry and I'm just gonna snail trail through the airport, I'm not.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

I know plenty of people who would.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

But, like, if someone at my house and left a human turd at my house because of a party.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

I'm.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

I'm posting it, like, on the local Facebook groups and tagging, no doubt.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

And I'm tagging you because you're about. You just embarrassed me in front of my neighbor. Now I have to show you what you've done.

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

But the thoughts of cleaning up human. Like, I got tired of doing it around, like, 2 years old when Jackson was younger. I'm not. I am not cleaning up an adult human turd.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

I mean, first of all, the smells of an adult turd. No,

[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

I'm really going to gag. Like, thinking about smelling somebody's Madison. And Alessandra said we're going to eat soon, so. So we're done here. We're gonna go to the Webbies. Also, if you guys have not subscribed to the show, you can do that from any podcast app, wherever you get your pods, always first at podcast one. And if you have not purchased your

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

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[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

And we will talk to you guys soon.

[Podcast Host 1 (likely Kale Lowry)]

See ya. Foreign. Hey, guys, we're back. You asked for it. And we're delivering. Killer is going on tour. We're super excited for the fatherless behavior tour. 23 cities, three countries, all in one summer. And you guys can check out tour dates and see if we're coming to a city near you on killlowry.com. and if you want early access to information and announcements, head over to Patreon because you might get it before everyone else.

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[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

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[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

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[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

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[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

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[Podcast Host 2 (likely Lindsay Chrisley)]

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