True Crime updates, Teen Pregnancy Comeback & a sus Craiglist Ad

Summary

Coffee Convos Podcast Summary

Episode Title: True Crime updates, Teen Pregnancy Comeback & a sus Craigslist Ad
Hosts: Kail Lowry & Lindsie Chrisley
Release Date: March 5, 2026
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Episode Overview

In this candid and unfiltered episode, Kail and Lindsie share true crime updates, dissect a viral teen pregnancy story, reminisce about their childhoods and school years, and react to a listener’s wild Craigslist confession. The hosts blend humor, personal experience, and real talk as they tackle parenting, reality TV’s impact, generational shifts, and internet scandals. Expect lively debate, vulnerability, and memorable one-liners that keep the episode light amidst heavy topics.

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Key Topics & Segments

1. False Death Rumors & The “Ghost of Lindsie”

(02:03–04:54)

• Lindsie opens joking about rumors of her own death being spread by fan pages.
• The duo jokes about living on through the podcast, with Lindsie playfully portraying a “ghost” version of herself.
• Quote:
  • “I’m actually recording with the ghost of Lindsie, because if anyone didn’t know, Lindsie passed away.” —Kail (02:04)
  • “Well, my emotions have taken me out.” —“Ghost” Lindsie (03:33)

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2. True Crime Update: Lindsay Clancy Case

(04:54–10:47)

• The hosts discuss Lindsay Clancy, a mom accused of strangling her children and attempting suicide.
• They explore mental health, postpartum psychosis, and the debate around premeditation vs. mental illness.
• Kail empathizes with the struggles of postpartum, while Lindsie is less forgiving, stressing the horror of the crime.
• Discussion includes legal updates: Clancy’s suicide attempt left her paralyzed; her husband may have forgiven her.
• Quote:
  • “In order to do something like this, you have to be mentally ill in some way somehow.” —Kail (09:16)

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3. School Drug Culture and Childhood Hustles

(10:15–13:28)

• Kail recalls current dangers of “laced” snacks (like Gushers) and parents allegedly involving kids in schoolyard drug sales.
• They share stories of middle school “gum dealers” and minor school hustles.
• Lighthearted memories serve as a bridge from heavy crime topics.

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4. School Safety & Accountability: Appalachian High Shooting

(17:59–25:03)

• Lindsie updates listeners on the trial related to the Appalachian High School shooting.
• Focus on parental accountability—dad charged for not securing the gun—; debate over whether a life sentence (180 years) is appropriate.
• Kail wonders if the criminal act would still have happened without access to that specific gun; they consider warning signs and parental responsibility.
• Quote:
  • “You can buy the gun...but you need to lock the guns up.” —Kail (20:39)
  • “He said, ‘That is my son…and this whole other side of him was a side that I didn’t know.’” —Lindsie (23:01)

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5. Viral Teen Pregnancy: The 12-Year-Old Dad

(25:05–32:41)

• The hosts react to a viral TikTok news story: a 15-year-old girl and a 12-year-old boy becoming parents.
• Concerns about consent, parenting, and where adult responsibility lies.
• Kail and Lindsie passionately reject the normalization of such young relationships, drawing the line at what they’d allow for their own children.
• A TikTok snippet is played, adding context to the kids’ perspectives.
• Quote:
  • “Where is the responsibility on the parents here?” —Kail (27:13)
  • “If a 15-year-old girl was interested in my 12-year-old son...I’m calling your parents and I’m calling the sheriff’s deputy.” —Kail (31:24)

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6. Reality TV’s Impact on Teen Pregnancy Culture

(33:05–41:13)

• Debate about whether shows like 16 & Pregnant and Teen Mom were effective in discouraging teen pregnancy—or whether, due to fame and money, they contributed to the problem.
• Kail shares what she was paid in the early days, how streaming changed compensation, and how reality shows shaped public perception.
• Lindsie argues some girls were incentivized by fame, while a guest offers the view that the shows "scared straight" a generation.
• Quote:
  • “16 and Pregnant scared us straight. That was our scared straight.” —TikTok audio/guest (36:25)
  • “I exploited my life for, in the grand scheme of it all, not a lot of money.” —Kail (38:35)

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7. Syndication & Streaming Royalties Debate

(38:18–40:28)

• Kail and Lindsie both vent about reality-tv contracts not anticipating streaming, and how they receive no residuals for shows still earning their networks millions.
• Candid about the financial and family toll.

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8. Sexuality, Nudes, and Social Trends

(47:18–49:59)

• Funny, open segment about sending nudes via Snapchat, changing norms, and the “no face, no case” strategy.
• They discuss the social risks—including leaks, extortion, and minors sharing explicit images.
• Quote:
  • “I might release it myself, to be honest. But anyways, I digress.” —Kail, on an old nude (47:26)

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9. Ringworm PSA & Parenting Rants

(50:02–52:12)

• New warnings about “sexually transmitted ringworm”; Kail shares a personal horror story of her son bringing ringworm home.
• They swap tips for keeping outbreaks contained and agree on parenting boundaries during illness.

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10. Foul Play Listener Confession: Craigslist Craziness

(52:27–59:27)

• Listener submits a story about catching her ex posting nude pics on Craigslist seeking sexual encounters with men.
• Deep dive into infidelity, sexual fluidity, honesty in relationships—and how they’d react if a man confessed to being bi-curious.
• Quote:
  • “Straight men are not going to look for men to do those things…unless they’re gay.” —Kail (56:02)
  • “I’d rather my man come to me and say, ‘I think I want to get my dick sucked by a man’...I have no competition.” —Kail (58:45)
  • “Now you’ve wasted my time. Time, like, at that point.” —Lindsie (57:43)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “There’s a fakery bakery around here.” —Kail (01:53)
• “If a 15-year-old girl was interested in my 12-year-old son...I’m calling your parents and I’m calling the sheriff’s deputy.” —Kail (31:24)
• “Honestly, I’ve always said, if somebody is going to cheat on me, please do it with a man. Because I can’t compete with dick.” —Lindsie (59:11)
• “16 and Pregnant scared us straight. That was our scared straight.” —TikTok commenter (36:25)
• “I exploited my life for, in the grand scheme of it all, not a lot of money... You guys are still making millions of dollars off of us.” —Kail (38:35)
• “Being in the army and just getting your dick sucked by, you know, Joe down the road is weird.” —Lindsie (55:32)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [02:03–04:54] — Cold open and “Ghost of Lindsie” intro
• [04:54–10:47] — Lindsay Clancy true crime update
• [17:59–25:03] — Appalachian High School shooting and parental responsibility debate
• [25:05–32:41] — 12-year-old dad viral story & sex ed failures
• [33:05–41:13] — Reality TV: impact on culture, compensation, and “scared straight” effect
• [47:18–49:59] — Nudes: changing taboos and digital dangers
• [52:27–59:27] — Foul Play: Craigslist confession and sexuality conversation

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Overall Episode Tone & Takeaway

Kail and Lindsie balance levity with seriousness, moving seamlessly from dark true crime stories to absurd viral headlines, to very real, heartfelt conversations about motherhood, growing up, and stigma. They’re quick-witted, unpretentious, and unfiltered, turning personal anecdotes and social commentary into relatable podcast gold. If you want inside perspective on growing up “on TV,” raising kids today, and owning your messy past, this is a prime episode to catch.

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Transcript

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[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

I hate gift giving and receiving.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Receiving gifts is so weird. What do you say? Thank you.

[Podcast Co-host (Possibly Kale Lowry or Lindsey Chrisley)]

This is Coffee Convos with Kale Lowry and Lindsey Chrisley. I really want you to be in your feels.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

Kale.

[Kale Lowry]

That does not interest me whatsoever.

[Podcast Co-host (Possibly Kale Lowry or Lindsey Chrisley)]

I feel very attacked by you. A spirited discussion about motherhood, friendship, family

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

and life in the public eye.

[Podcast Co-host (Possibly Kale Lowry or Lindsey Chrisley)]

I'm just not with the fakery anymore.

[Kale Lowry]

There's a fakery bakery around here.

[Podcast Co-host (Possibly Kale Lowry or Lindsey Chrisley)]

Here's Kayl Lindsay

[Lindsey Chrisley]

all right. Hey Lindsay.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

Good morning. Welcome to Coffee Convo Podcast.

[Kale Lowry]

Hello from Dallas.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

I'm actually recording with the ghost of Lindsay because if anyone didn't know, Lindsay passed away.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

Wait, what again? How did I die this time?

[Lindsey Chrisley]

I'm going to read you something that was sent to me. Shout out to Heather L Meer. She texted me this morning and let me know that you had passed away.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

Well, I passed away my sleep. I've passed away in a fiery car crash. I passed away like five times.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Five times a year.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

No, just like five times in total.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Okay. Well, the fan page called Nanny Faye Happy fans reported that at 5:17, it says, with deep sorrow we announced that Lindsay Chrisley has passed away. And it says 1989 to 2026. With deep sorrow, we announced that Lindsay Chrisley has passed away. Sending shock waves through the world of reality television and leaving fans stunned beyond words. The heartbreaking news reportedly broke in the early hours of the morning with. With closed sources confirming that the 36 year old media personality was surrounded by loved ones during her final moments. Within minutes, social media platforms were flooded with disbelief, tearful emojis, and thousands of messages asking the same question. How could this have happened? Lindsay Chrisley, widely known for her appearances on USA Network, stepped into the spotlight as the outspoken and independent daughter of Todd Chrisley. Viewers watched her navigate family tensions, personal struggles and public scrutiny.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

But how did I die?

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Nobody said, nobody knows. So if you could kindly let me know how you were taken out, I would like to know.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

Like I said, well, my emotions have taken me out.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Well, I just wanted to.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

My current life emotions have taken me the out.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

So you've heard it here first. Coffee combos will continue.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

Yeah.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

With the ghost of Lindsay Chrisley.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

Yes, it will.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

So why.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

Why did they put that on the fan page? Nanny's fan page?

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Yeah. I don't know. Heather texted me and I said I need to open the podcast with this today.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

It's probably because Nanny hasn't heard from me in 24 hours. Did she probably started the rumors.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

She's like, hold on. But I need to know, did you see the lights?

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

The what?

[Lindsey Chrisley]

The lights.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

What do you mean?

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Like they say, when you're about to pass away and when you're passing away, you see the lights like you see heaven.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

No, because I did not pass away. So, no, I did not see the lights. But that is so true. Did I tell you when my granddaddy passed away? Yeah. He kept saying he was going to a party and he saw lights before he died.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

I'll probably see the flames of hell.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

Yeah, so will I.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Okay. Okay. So, yeah, I just wanted to let everyone know.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

So we have a live audience today that no one knows about.

[Kale Lowry]

So.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

So can I. Can I say names or. Okay, we have a live studio audience today, so round of round of applause for them.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

Claps. Yes, can we insert clap.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Insert claps here.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

Okay, I need the update on Lindsay Clancy.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Okay, let me pull that up.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

First of all, you said that you didn't know who this was.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

No, I knew.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

And you sent me the video like late night of her in a wheelchair.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Yeah. And then I. I know her by face, but I don't know her by name. So then when I like wrote when it was in the sheet for us to talk about it, I didn't remember her name. I just remember what she did. So Lindsay Clancy was the woman who I believe sent her husband to the store and then killed her three children and attempted to kill herself by jumping out of a window. And she survived and is now paralyzed in a wheelchair. And so there are updates on her. And so I wanted to just kind of let you gu know what is going on.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

Okay, wait. Before you give the updates though, I think that her defense was. It was like a split second decision. Like basically the devil took over her and then she just decided that. But I think the prosecution saying that it was like a premeditated act.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Interesting. Yeah, I don't really remember those details, but you're probably right. I just wonder. I don't know how old.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

I think he went to the pharmacy and then to get dinner. And by the time he did that, she, I believe, killed her three children and then tried to jump to her own death.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

So she was accused of strangling her three children. She appears in court for the first time. And so the judge and attorney scheduled a mark a March 2 court date for oral arguments on several issues, including the request for a split trial. She was on suicide watch since her arrest, which I didn't realize. And she was charged with multiple counts of murder and strangulation. She pleaded not guilty and became a para police after she jumped out of the second floor window following her children's death. The children were five years old, three years old, and eight months old. Now, before I go any further, I want to say that eight months old, and I want to say even three years old there, there could have been some sort of like postpartum situation.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

So that was said initially when this all came out, like way back when. Wasn't this Massachusetts or something?

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Yeah, I believe it was Massachusetts.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

No, I'm pretty sure it was. And it was said that she had struggled postpartum and had been on multiple medications. You don't remember that? And that she had gone to this doctor and he was prescribing her all of this stuff, and she was on and off different medications dealing with the postpartum.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

I did not know that.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

Yeah.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

That's giving Andrea Yates.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

That's giving crazy. Wait. I unfortunately did not know that it paralyzed her. So I thought the wheelchair, like, when you sent it to me, was a ploy.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

No. So to your point, you said that the prosecution was saying that it was planned. And so in this article, it says, the prosecutor said that it had been meticulously planned. She had. She had concocted an errand that would keep her husband Patrick out of the house for at least 25 minutes, just long enough so that she could do all of this. And then she had strangled each of her children with an exercise banned, an act that would require holding each of them down for at least four minutes. And then she left from. Leapt from the second story window, spra. Fractured her spine and ended up in a wheelchair.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

So I also saw, on a tik tok, it said that the husband, like, had not talked to her, I guess, since this all went down and she had been in some type of, like, mental health institution or whatever. But I think her parents convinced him to call her on her birthday, and that's the first time that they had ever spoken.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

I also read something online that. And I don't know if this is true, that he had forgiven her.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

Forgiveness is a crazy thing.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

It's hard because when I think about my own children and what it was like to go through, like, postpartum and things like that, I cannot imagine being in that state if that was the case. But I also. I mean, those lives can never come back.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

Wasn't she a nurse?

[Lindsey Chrisley]

That. I don't know.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

I want to say she was a nurse, so, I mean, obviously her profession. But wouldn't you have some. Some knowledge of being on and off?

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Dr.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

I think she was, like, switching around doctors and getting all this medication. So, I mean, isn't that, like, some responsibility on yourself as well, though?

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Yeah, but I think when you hit a level, it's like, I'm borderline without all of the details. Like, I'm borderline, like, having any empathy for her, because I don't know if there was, like, psychosis involved or postpartum, because I would have empathy, a little bit of empathy for that. But if there. If it was none of that, then. But I mean, in order to do something like this, you have to be mentally ill in some way somehow.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

I mean, yeah, you take an exercise, begin to put it around your children's neck and hold them down for four minutes. You're crazy.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

And then to be able to actually, like.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

And I have no empathy for that situation at all fair. I mean, I know that you're way more empathetic person than me, but, you know, here we are.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

What? Said, am I? Yeah.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

Oh, yeah. Somebody sitting in this room said I'm the meanest person that they've ever met in their life.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

I don't know. I. I'm like, fake mean. I'm a fake news mean person. You know, Like, I'm not actually mean in real life.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

Yes, you are. Yes, you are.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

It's not funny.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

Like, why would you say that?

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Moving on.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

Moving on from that. Oh, so last week, whenever we were recording, you were like, I've been trying to talk about lace gushers for, oh, my gosh.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Weeks. Yeah. So let me pull this up. I. I had created an album in my phone for podcast related items, and I was talking to somebody about all the things that were going on with, like, schools and drugs and this, that and the third, and we were talking about, like, laced weed. And I think there was like this little boosie video that came up on Tick Tock where he's doing an interview

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

about, like, not a boostie video, talking

[Lindsey Chrisley]

about how, like, he has homies that have been on crack for 30 years and it's never killed him. But, like, fentanyl is scary because you use it once or twice and you. You could die.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

Right.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

And so that brought up the conversation of, like, people in drugs. And then there was this whole thing going around. I think a makeup artist told me that parents in some district were lacing gushers with drugs and then having their children going around schools and selling them in school.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

Like, the kids knew they had drugs.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

So the. So basically the parents were putting their children up to the drug dealing and the drug sales.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

This is kind of giving that dad that. Where those girls had that sleepover, remember? And he, like, tainted the smoothies.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Yeah. That's terrifying.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

Why would anybody do that?

[Lindsey Chrisley]

No, but the kids buying the laced gushers knew they were laced. They wanted them. Like they were buying them. Does that make sense? Like, it wasn't like they were just buying regular gushers or they were under the impression that it was regular gushers. It was. They knew that they would be drugged.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

Not to change the subject, but it's like, kind of similar. Do you remember back when we were in middle school and it was like a privilege to have gum or like candy in the classroom?

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Yes.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

Remember that?

[Lindsey Chrisley]

And then we would, like, hide the gum up in the corner or like, under our tongue with them when the teacher turned their back. We'd be chewing it or eating.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

Yeah.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Yes.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

Okay. Did you have any dealers at your school that, like, came and you could buy like, a piece of gum for a dollar?

[Lindsey Chrisley]

You know, we didn't have to buy it. We would just, like, give it to people and complain that they ate all our gum.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

Oh, no, I had my whole business.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

No, you didn't.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

Yes, I did.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Wait, that's iconic.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

Yeah, I did. So remember like, Bubblicious packs and you could go to Walmart and they would sell them in, like, the five pack?

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Yes.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

Like, I don't. I wouldn't say it's like a value pack, but it's like. Yeah, kind of like that. Yeah. I would go every weekend. One of my parents would take me and I would sell one piece of gone for $1. Bitch was rolling in the cash.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Wait, did your parents know you were doing that?

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

No.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Low key. If my kid did that, came home and was like, mom, I'm selling entrepreneur,

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

I would be like, wait, I had my own business?

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Yeah. No, I wouldn't. I would be so proud. Like, I would.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

See, I would never bring the money home and it would never come in my backpack.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

It was like a locker type of situation.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

Situation. It. It stayed there. So then when I wanted, like, you know, extra treats in the lunch room or whatever, I would just, you know, go to my stash.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

No, I love that. That is iconic. Yes, I love that.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

I got in trouble.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

By who?

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

The school.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

They caught you? Yeah.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

You can't have a business like, at the school.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

What they don't know won't hurt them.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

They knew.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Well, how did they find out?

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

I'm dealing at the school in science. Like, what the do you mean, how do they know?

[Lindsey Chrisley]

How did they find out? Someone snitched.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

Yeah, that was the same year. Okay. Did you also do this?

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[Lindsey Chrisley]

Yeah.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

Okay. Our kids cannot get away with anything. No, they can't because I have automatic notifications set up on my phone. So when one grade comes through, I just, it's like one tap away. And immediately if it was like incomplete or not turned in, I screenshot it and send it to Jackson. They can get away with nothing. When I was in school, you got the paper progress report sent home?

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Yeah.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

And they had to like your parents had to sign them.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Nobody was looking for me, so nobody was checking on mine. Oh, most of the time they never got signed. If they got. I don't even know if I brought them home.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

So my best friend in middle school was an only child, straight A student, and meanwhile she's around with some girl like me that's failing math. And so I told her we were supposed to have a sleepover on a Friday and we rode the bus back to her house, but it was like the same bus to my neighborhood. And I said, you cannot show your parents your progress report because my parents are going to talk to your parents and they're going to know about the progress report and I'm immediately going to have to go home. So straight A student and she Forged my progress report for me.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Did you get away with it?

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

Yeah, I did. And then got smarter. So I hope none of your kids are listening to this and also mine.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

I don't think they listen to coffee

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

compost, but got smarter. And then when I went to high school, I just signed my own syllabus because then the signature matched anything that ever had to sign after that.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

In your handwriting?

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

Yes.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Okay, but hear me out, because I'm thinking about, like, my own children, and I have a lot of them. So it's like, if they all. I don't. Would a teacher really know? Because I'm thinking if they're all bringing stuff to me to sign, I don't remember the last, like, do you know what I'm saying? Like, I don't remember the signatures, what they look like if their teacher signs something and they're like, hey, my teacher signed this. Can you sign this? And they all brought them to me. I wouldn't be able to differentiate who. Which teacher signed what. So when you have 30 students in a classroom and everybody is bringing stuff, how would they be able to tell?

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

Well, I don't think they do signing papers anymore. I don't think I've signed a paper and ever.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

I don't sign anything except for, like, field trips. I think is, like, one thing that I sign. But to your point, I get from Elliott School, specifically get a text, a call, and an email. Like, they all come in within, the same, like, five minutes of each other. I'll get the text. No sooner, the phone is ringing, and it's an automated message. Yeah, your child wasn't in school today or progress reports went out or midterm results are out or whatever. And then it's also an email. And I'm like, okay, honestly, I've had enough. Like, I'm getting this from seven different kids.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

Wait, speaking of schools, also, like, follow the bouncing ball here. Remember that case that we covered, the Appalachian High School?

[Lindsey Chrisley]

No.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

Where that kid, like, went in and blew up the school. Where were you?

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Probably in the flames of hell somewhere.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

No. So the trial just started. They did, like, jury selection two weeks ago. It's close to. I mean, it's kind of close to where we live. Like, where I live. It's. The boy's name was Colt or Colton. Hold on, let me pull this.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

There's so much.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

Let me show you.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Morbid. So many morbid things going on in the world that they all are blending together, and there's just so much shit.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

I need number one, I need to ask You. So they separated the trial. So the dad was charged, and then

[Lindsey Chrisley]

the son was charged because the dad didn't properly lock up the gun.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

Yes, well, that was. He purchased the gun. He purchased the gun, and then it was not secured.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Okay, I vaguely remember that.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

Yeah.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

And it was, like. There was, like, a documentary where the house was in shambles. Ish. And it was, like, messy and gross.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

Yes.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Okay, I'm. It's coming back to me.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

Okay, Just look up Appalachia High School shooting. So the dad's trial already started, but the. The son, they're still waiting for, like, all of these mental health evaluations, and the son had pled not guilty. But there was a video that just surfaced.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Yeah, it's. I. I'm recognizing it.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

Okay. The video that just surfaced makes me so alarmed for our children in the public school system. He went into the school with, like, a trifold, like, presentation board with the gun in the trifold thing. And there's videos of him walking through everywhere, all over the school with the gun. And then they went into the bathroom. Resource officers. The mom had called. He had sent a text to the mom. The mom called the school to alert them. They went into a bathroom and pulled another student out of the bathroom and left him in there with the gun. So, like, at what point is the school liable as well?

[Lindsey Chrisley]

They're all liable. In my opinion. Every single one of them is liable.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

I mean, if you watch the video, it's literally like, him walking through the hallways. Wait, can we play that also?

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Really quickly, before we play that, I just want to add this. Like, I don't care what depths of the country land that you're from. Right? Like, if you're from the sticks and you're a country person through and through. Like, you're wearing camo. You got the mullet. You got the whole stereotype thing going on.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

So you're a roadkill Ray.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Roadkill Ray.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

Yeah.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

You know what I mean? I don't give a how much. You are a country boy. Why are you buying a child a gun? I don't give a how country you are. You don't. Your child doesn't need a gun. You can buy the gun. And if y' all go hunting or target shooting, at any point, you need to lock the guns up.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

But isn't that the law?

[Lindsey Chrisley]

But people you hear stories about, parents buy, oh, I bought that. I bought that knife for my son. I bought that gun for my son. For what? For what it can be for them. And then you can lock it up and Literally only unsecure the gun when you're about to go with said child to go do said activity.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

So the dad's facing 180 years in prison.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Did the boy end up killing anyone?

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

The school shooting?

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Oh, he shot people.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

Yes, he shot people at the school.

[News Reporter]

As the prosecution wrapped its case against Colin Gray, the state played jurors security footage from inside Appalachian High School in Winder, Georgia. On September 4, 2024, Gray's son Colt is alleged to have opened fire in the school, killing two students and two teachers. Cameras caught Colt Gray in class, fidgeting, texting, then eventually walking into a bathroom with his backpack, where he contacted his mother, who then called the school. A short while later, resource officers go into the bathroom and take out a different student with a similar name. Colt follows afterwards wearing yellow gloves, carrying the bag with a poster board concealing an AR15 style rifle. The final image allowed to be shown by the court's pool camera. Colt peering into a classroom holding the firearm. Today, as prosecutors began their replay of the actual shooting, the pool camera shifted to Colt's father, Colin, who immediately broke down in tears.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Obviously, I don't know all the details of the gun situation, but like, watching the dad get so emotional and upset about that, he has to have some level of regret for not for essentially being negligent and not tying up, like, securing the gun. So in some ways it's like, okay, yes, you should be charged and convicted for your role in it, but I also don't know if I necessarily think a hundred years. I think that's too much for the dad.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

So the articles that I was reading, because I've been following the case, like, very heavily, and it said that people believe that they're going so extreme on this to make an example. I struggle with that a little bit too, because, yes, is he guilty and should he be held accountable? Absolutely, he should. But 180 years, I mean, if you would have watched the dad's testimony, he's literally bawling. And he said, that is my son. And the like cult that I knew was sweet. And this whole other side of him was a side that I didn't know.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

To play devil's advocate a little bit is like Colt possibly could have done this. Whether or not that specific gun was secured or not. He could have found another way to take action the way that he did. And so. But I also do wonder because I vaguely remember there being details and like, warning signs that the parents did or didn't necessarily follow up on. And as a mom myself, Like I go to the ends of the earth for my kids. Like, if I even so much as think that my kid needs a doctor appointment and I'm overdramatic and people have told me, kale, he doesn't need to go to the doctor. Relax, they're going to the doctor. So if I'm seeing signs of withdrawal or like just weird behavior, the first thing I do is take my kids to the doctor or whether it's a psychiatrist, psychologist, the pediatrician, whatever that is. So like when there's only one kid involved, how are both parents negligent on that?

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

I think the mom was semi absent from his life. I think she lived in another state. So I think he was living with the dad, with the sister, and she didn't really have that much to do with him.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

I thought it was the stepmom, he

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

was living with the dad.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

I'm think I'm maybe meshing two cases together.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

I mean, probably because that's like what you do. That's why we can't do true crime anymore.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Yeah, I can't do it.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

That's literally why we can't. Because.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

No, but that's, it's really sad because that dad, he one thing that he could have done and he didn't do it.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

And now the rest of his life

[Lindsey Chrisley]

is over and people died.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

Right? Yeah.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Yeah. That's terrible. That's terrible.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

Isn't that freaking horrible? Okay, what's this? Teen dad. Oh wait, I saw this on Tick

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Tock and Teen Dad.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

Yeah, so it's the Teen Dad. You probably saw it all over Tick Tock too. It was like a girl and she's gonna, they're gonna be on a reality show. And I think she was like 14 or 15 and then boy was 12.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Yep, I saw it.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

Yeah. And then she's been posting like follow up tick tocks, like going against the boy's family, saying no, actually what they said is a lie. And she had all these photos of, of them being in a hotel together with his family or her family and she was in the bed with like a grandma and him.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Oh, I don't know anything about that. I just know that There was a 12 year old dad and a 15 year old mom. I thought they were gonna go on like unexpected or something. Yes, the reality show.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

Yeah, that's what I heard.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

A 12 year old is not even there yet.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

Should not be there yet. But why is a 12 year old dating a 15 year old?

[Lindsey Chrisley]

That's disturbing to me. Even if it was the other way around. Even if it was the girl that was 12 and the dad was 15, like even that. Like a 12 year old. Like, I don't care if it's three years. Like that's.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

But why were they ever in the same bed? Whether it be her grandma or his grandma.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Were they in a relationship?

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

Yes, they were in a relationship.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

How.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

How do you get in a relationship if you're 12 and 15? Like number one, where did you meet? Like maybe. What is that?

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Middle school. So Lincoln's 12. Sorry, Lincoln's 12 and he's in sixth grade.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

So he would be in sixth grade and she would be in ninth grade, which means that she probably would have been eighth grade when he. No, eighth grade, when she was in fifth.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Fifteen is either, depending on when your birthday is either ninth or tenth grade and then sixth grade. I don't. Listen, Lincoln's 12. He's not getting a girlfriend now. I don't care if the girl's 12. I don't care if she's 13. I don't care if she'S 11. You're not having a girlfriend at 12 years old. You're not.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

That's literally the same conversation that I had with Jackson. Like, we're not focusing on girls. We're going to focus on our friendships. We're going to focus on our home life and we're going to focus on basketball. Like that is it.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Where is the responsibility on the parents here?

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

I think it's full responsibility on the parents.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

12 years old.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

I mean, how do you even know what to do? Like at 12?

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Like even just like self pleasure, like how old are you?

[Kale Lowry]

Okay, let's talk about Fabletics for a second because I'm wearing it right now for this episode and I absolutely love this quarter zip fleece. When I signed up As a new VIP with Fabletics, I got 80% off of everything. And I thought I was going to

[Lindsey Chrisley]

be one that truly believed this was

[Kale Lowry]

too good to be true. But it's all real and the quality surprises me. I'm obsessed with it. The Fabletics pieces feel like a high end activewear that you would pay a couple hundred dollars for, but it's so much more affordable, especially with the VIP membership price. And I recently went up to the mall by US and they have a Fabletics storefront which I absolutely love because you can try the pieces on.

[Podcast Co-host (Possibly Kale Lowry or Lindsey Chrisley)]

I absolutely love Fabletics so much. When I went and cleaned out my closet for the new year, most all of my activewear is from Fabletics. I absolutely love the sets. I also was wearing the Same little half zip that kale has on today. So we'll have to make sure that we link that for y'.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

All.

[Podcast Co-host (Possibly Kale Lowry or Lindsey Chrisley)]

Really. Go and check out Fabletics. I love their leggings because the waistband does not creep down. Their joggers are so great and actually keep their shape. And something that I love about Fabletics is how well it washes and holds up. Fabletics already has incredible deals and we have an exclusive offer just for our listeners. Get 80% off of of everything when you sign up as a VIP. Just head to fabletic.com coffeeconbos you can take a quick style quiz and be sure to select coffee combos when prompted to unlock your 80 off again. That's Fabletics.com CoffeeConbos like 12?

[Lindsey Chrisley]

I don't even think 12. 12 is crazy work.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

Like how do you even know how to get hard at that age and put it somewhere?

[Lindsey Chrisley]

No, but, but the but my focus is more so on the fact that like my 12 year old is never gonna be alone in a room with a girl at that age for any period of time. I mean, so even if they're about to go through puberty or they're jerking off at that age, you're not getting it. Like what circumstances would would allow that to happen?

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

Lack of parenting.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Where are these people from?

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

I don't know, but let's play the tick tock.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

I was 12 when I found out

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

I was gonna be a dad.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Now I'm 13. I did not think I would be finishing 8th grade and becoming a dad at the same time.

[Teen Dad (Guest or Referenced Person)]

I didn't think at 15 years old I'd be pregnant. I didn't think with a 13 year old either. I took a golf class so I think I'm going to win.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

I think we should have sent you to a sex ed class, Dad.

[Teen Dad (Guest or Referenced Person)]

I took the sex ed class and failed that one. But I passed the child growth and development class.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

Oh, good thing I was trying to prevent teenage pregnancy.

[Commentator/Guest]

How?

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Where? Where?

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

When the condom broke. Oops. I found out I was pregnant because

[Teen Dad (Guest or Referenced Person)]

I missed my period. My periods were 28 days on the dot. When I missed that period that morning, I was like, mom, I need to take a test. Surely enough it was positive.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

I literally think my heart sunk that day.

[Teen Dad (Guest or Referenced Person)]

She literally grabbed the test off the

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

camera and started running.

[Teen Dad (Guest or Referenced Person)]

We could have waited a little bit longer I guess, but it was his idea.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

So not to get pregnant?

[Teen Dad (Guest or Referenced Person)]

No, not to get pregnant. To have sex.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Is it hard to talk about with

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

your mom sitting right here?

[Teen Dad (Guest or Referenced Person)]

Cuz no, she knows like I'M very open, but like all he wants to

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

do is have sex. What she say?

[Lindsey Chrisley]

All I'm not going to get pregnant again.

[Teen Dad (Guest or Referenced Person)]

Why you pregnant?

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

Oh my gosh.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

He don't even like that girl. I could tell by the look on her on his face. He don't even like that girl.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

I mean, what's so weird about it too? And I'm not trying to be petty spaghetti, but they don't even look like they live in the same town.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

They don't look like they would ever cross paths in like they look like they're in two entirely different groups.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

I mean they are at 12 and 15.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Yes, I am concerned about this because why do you even like a 12 year old? If a 15 year old girl was interested in my 12 year old son. Jail. You're going to jail. I'm calling your parents and I'm calling the sheriff's deputy.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

You not the sheriff deputy.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Is that a, is that a position these days?

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

I don't know.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Or is that just in the books I read?

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

I think it's just the books that you read because I hadn't heard sheriff deputy since like Andy Griffith.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Who's that?

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

What was that show called?

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Family Guy.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

Family Guy.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Oh

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

no, the Andy Griffith Show.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Who is that? That?

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

You've never watched that?

[Lindsey Chrisley]

I thought that was the guy with the butt chin.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

The cartoon wasn't like Mayberry.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

What is Mayberry? Is that a location? Yeah. Where are they from? For real?

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

I don't know. We're making all of this up.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

That girl, if she. Okay, wait, no, wait a minute. If she, wait, if she's 15. She wasn't even born when 16 and pregnant aired. So she didn't get the memo, right? Like she didn't get the scared straight moment where it was like. But you know what, she knew what she was doing watching that and like her slick smile and like her laughing about it.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

She's a problem.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

She knew exactly what she was doing. She's thought that boy was cute and she's like, I'm gonna trap him. And I'm not a girl's girl for this episode.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

Am I trapping somebody at 12 years old? That's some wild sinister is what that is. Because I can promise you if some 50 in any chance that my son at his age right now got a 15 year old girl pregnant, I'm going to jail.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

I need to know more. We need to get them on Coffee Combo's podcast. I have so many questions, but here's

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

the thing and you're gonna disagree with me. And I know, and that's fine. I really don't give a fuck. 16 and pregnant did some great things. I get it. I've talked to Tyler about this. Like, y' all did some great things, and then you had Teen Mom. But for the audience of people that were watching that, I don't think that it necessarily was a memo of, like, don't get pregnant for those that are curious to. To maybe want to do it because they see these girls are now being televised and making all this money.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

But it wasn't always like that, right? Like, I'm talking.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

When was it not like that?

[Lindsey Chrisley]

The first season where we're exploiting our entire lives for. I think, like, it was maybe 10 episodes. It might have been eight, might have been 12. Somewhere around there, we made $10,000 for the entire season, which was the entire year. $10,000 before taxes.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

But it wasn't like that for you. What I'm saying is the network did a disservice to some degree, because it. You know, and then you've got the height of social media, so people want to be famous on social media. The kids that are out there, you know, around getting pregnant, they see this. These shows, they want to have a life like that, and they're like, oh, we can do it.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

I do see that viewpoint. I do. But I also, like. And I've thought about that, because people will be like, oh, did you just get pregnant for the show? And I'm like, no, I already was pregnant when I applied. I do think that there was probably a small number of people who were like, I'll get pregnant and apply.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

Yes.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

But I just want to say that, like, when you're going into it. When I filled out whatever the form it was for the. The 16 and pregnant episode, I knew going into it, it was just one episode. I did not ever expect to be on Teen mom itself. I didn't know that Teen mom itself was an option because I think I applied when it was 16 and pregnant still. I also just knew, like, what are my chances, really? Like, I didn't think going into it I would get picked. I just knew that there was going to be millions of other people or thousands of other people that were applying. So, like, I went into it knowing, like, I'm probably never gonna. I actually forgot that I even did it. Do you know what I mean? No.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

Like, what? The monetary, like, on the casting or whatever. So you had no idea?

[Lindsey Chrisley]

I had no idea. We got. I'll probably get. I won't get in trouble. I've talked about it. Sixteen and pregnant itself. That one episode we did filming for our pregnancies and then the birth and we made $5,000. The girls made $5,000 before taxes for that one episode and the dads made 1,000 before taxes. I don't know what I thought it would be. I didn't. I just know that I needed something. If I did get picked, I knew it would be something. It would. I don't, I don't even know. Get me a car, something. I just was desperate. It was more out of like a place of desperation.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

But your situation is very different. Like the way you're describing it is very different. Because now these other networks, like TLC, for example, they're doing ripoffs of 16 and pregnant teen Mom. All of this stuff, you can't convince me as quick as that girl got pregnant with a 12 year old boy and then all of a sudden she's applying to some show. You can't convince me she did not know what the she was doing.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Maybe it was the parents like how she was acting. I'm like, who allowed you? What kind of whatever can you. I mean they were talk up on the screen.

[Commentator/Guest]

Millennials aren't having kids because of the economy, because of housing. They can't afford houses.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

Yes.

[Commentator/Guest]

But also 16 and pregnant scared us straight. That was our scared straight. I'm in my 30s, I'm afraid of being a teenager, teenage mother. I'm married and I don't want to be a single 16 year old that's having a high school relationship that's failed and it's going to end up on tv. That's how good that propaganda work. Like we talk about the DARE program and oh, don't do drugs and all that stuff. 16 and pregnant needs to be studied because it was too effective. I want to go through what Macy was going through with Ryan or what Amber was going through with Gary. Excuse me, I'm scared still to this day, scared straight. 30 years old, still waiting to feel like I am ready to have a kid. It worked too well. When I think about everything that that girl who had the twins went through with her baby daddy and who else? Farrah and losing her baby daddy.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

You know, know, it's just so interesting because I think 16 and pregnant and Teen mom, they never won any Emmys, but it was a groundbreaking series that's literally in school textbooks now.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

Isn't that crazy?

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Crazy. And I think between 16 and pregnant and Teen mom and the state of the world and economy and society, all of that combined Is. And. And Gen Z, I think, is like Millennials and Gen Z are both not having children the same way. I don't necessarily think that's all to credit Teen mom and sixteen and pregnant. I really don't.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

I was about to say that I

[Lindsey Chrisley]

think that Millennials, it had an impact on, but then also just everything else. Like, we don't want to be. We don't want what generations before us had and were subject to and stuck in. And so I think it's just. It's a combination of all. But for. For the Millennials, I think it made. It did have a significant impact. I will say that.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

That I feel like the economy. I feel like some of Teen Mom, I feel like it was such a widely watched show at the time that it was airing. How do you feel actually about Teen mom being on streamers now?

[Lindsey Chrisley]

I have mixed feelings about it from a business standpoint. I'm upset because I exploited my life for, in the grand scheme of it all, not a lot of money. And we couldn't have predicted the streaming service. And so the, The. The money that people think that we made versus what we actually made is really upsetting today because there's. We don't. My contract expired. Right. So I'm completely out of all the expiry exclusivity clauses and all of that. And so I look at it now, and it's like when it came on Netflix, we don't get royalties from that. So you guys are still making millions of dollars off of us. I no longer make that money, but I'm raising kids that you guys exploited for millions of dollars. And I would like to say that, like, because that wasn't an option back when we signed our contracts, I do feel like there should be some sort of something where we could all come together and basically be like, this wasn't an option when we signed the contracts. Now that it is, you do owe us money because we're raising kids and you left us with no resources.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

I feel like that about Chrisley Knows Best. Like, once it went on, I guess Peacock, I think that's NBC. Is Peacock.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

I believe so, yeah.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

Once it went.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Peacock is also no Paramount. Yeah, I don't think Peacock is NBC. I think.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

Yeah. I mean, they. They put all seasons of Chris Lee Knows Best on that. And it's like I signed up for that to be aired on that date with reruns on Bravo and E. Not on a streamer. So there should have been some type of financial exchange.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Well, there's no. I don't believe there was Paramount plus and then there was no, like, streaming reruns on Netflix at the time that we signed those contracts. So at the point that that was an option, we are owed something for them to continue to make. What's it called?

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

Syndication. Like, when a show goes into syndication, I think is what it's called. Wait, okay, so the question that I have. Do you feel like reality shows shape team perception of parenthood?

[Lindsey Chrisley]

I mean, in some ways I think they should. Right? Like, remember the Secret Life of American Teenager? Yeah, that was trifling. Teen mom was trifling.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

Straight trifling.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Like, I went into a community college and was like, I can't pay my tuition. So, like, it should. Yeah, but does it? I don't know. I think to your point, everyone wants to make a paycheck. Everyone wants to make a come up. Everyone wants to be famous on social media. Everyone wants to make money on social media. So, like, it's like they take that and they're like, to your point, again, like, oh, I want that too. I'm gonna do it.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

Do I? I think for people that, like, want to be safe and they're watching, like, I watched Teen Mom. I watched Teen mom in college. Did that make me, like, want to have a baby at that time? Absolutely not. Did it scare me away from having a baby also? Absolutely not.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Interesting.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

I was watching it to, like, follow stories of people that were doing life different than me.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

But I think that you also had some. Some idea of, like, a healthy, normal family where, like, that wasn't your thing. Right. Like, where, like, people like me, I guess, like, my family life and my childhood was so broken that I was like, oh, I'm pregnant. One I didn't know. I didn't know what sex was. And then the side of it was like, oh, now I'm pregnant. Well, there's unconditional love right here. So it was more like filling voids and, like, trying to learn what love. Like, I just wanted to be loved so bad my whole life. And so once I found out I was pregnant with Elliot, was like, I'm gonna keep this baby. This is gonna be like, I'm gonna do something that I never had. Does that make sense?

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

Yeah, it makes so much.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

So, like, when you come from really, really broken, broken homes and broken circumstances, I think that you view life differently. And so when you come up in not saying that it can't happen to someone who's wealthy, I mean, Chelsea grew up pretty wealthy, I think.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

Yeah.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

But then she also didn't go on to have all kinds of pregnancies with everybody that she was with, like I did, you know.

[Kale Lowry]

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[Lindsey Chrisley]

Great.

[Podcast Co-host (Possibly Kale Lowry or Lindsey Chrisley)]

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[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

Combos isn't that so crazy about her story that she just met Cole at a gas station?

[Lindsey Chrisley]

I don't think it's that. I've seen, like, that's crazy.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

Like, I never would pull up to a pump and be like, hey, that's my guy.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

No, but I've seen, like, threads of people doing, like, conspiracy theories about it and like, is that true? Is it not true? Like, I don't think it's that weird.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

I think it's freaking outlandish.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Like, you never met someone that you have instant chemistry with ever, really?

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

No.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

I don't know. I. I don't think it's weird at all that, that they met at a gas station and were instantly attracted to each other in any way like that.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

Like, what are you doing, though, when you go to the gas station to be in that mindset, to be like, you're not. That is my man. I. I honestly think that that's a very strange thing. Like, never in my lifetime have I pulled up to a quick trip to pump gas in my car. Number one, I don't even like to pull up to the gas station ever. Anyway, I'm always on E. But I. In the event that I went to a quick trip and I'm pumping gas in no way, shape or form am I even looking around to find a man at the gas station.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

I don't think either of them went into it thinking they were going to find their lover for life. Like, I think in my head, the, the details that I vaguely remember, I feel like it was like they were just living life and then, yeah, so, like, what is wrong? Like, I'm not going to a gas station thing. I'm gonna find the love of my life. But, like, if it happens, it's, like, cool. Like, that's the lore. It's like they fell in love at a gas station. You know what I mean? Like, I could see that as like, a love. Like a rom com or something that I would read, like the trope of a book.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

I mean, I like it.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Like, sounds is gonna write that. You know what I mean?

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

It sounds better than falling in love on a boat. You know what I mean? Wait, do you remember back in the day, like. Like, when nudes were popular?

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Yeah, I sent him1 in 2018. It was a good one. I might release it myself, to be honest. But anyways, I digress.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

In 2018, yeah, I sent him a nude.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

I was single at that time. It was single at that time, I thought.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

Did you send it on Snapchat?

[Lindsey Chrisley]

On Snapchat.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

So you just. Your friends on Snapchat and you're just like, this sounds like a good idea. Let me spread my lips.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

No, it was just. It was from. It was the waist up.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

It was titties out.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Yeah.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

Was that when you had your nipple spears?

[Lindsey Chrisley]

I. Yes, it was. I did have my nipples pierced. And Chris and I had broken up. We had been broken up for some time, and I was single at that time.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

So that was the only communication, was the nude.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

No, we would. We would talk sometimes. Like, Ike and I have known each other.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

I know, but did the new just, like, come out of thin air? Like, was a conversation going on and then the nude, or.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Yeah, for sure. It was like, a conversation. And then I sent the new.

[Kale Lowry]

I have it.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Do you want to see it?

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

Yeah.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Okay. So while you keep talking, I'll pull up the nude.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

Okay. So that I might.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

I might.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

You have me flustered at this point.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Like, Like I was saying.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

Do you remember, like, when it was, like, so popular, when people were sending around nudes?

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Oh, sending around.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

Yeah.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Oh, that's terrifying.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

Like, why was anybody ever doing that? And when did nudes go away?

[Lindsey Chrisley]

When people started sending them around, when it became a concern, and it became essentially, like, a way of, like, extorting people. And there was lawsu. Nudes and then also children getting them and passing them around within the schools. I think that's when they were like, okay, you're. We're having conversations about, did you stop taking nudes? At what point?

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

At any point.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Yeah. Like, I haven't taken a nude in a long time. I took a picture in my skims Undergarments this morning. But, like, I'm not gonna do anything with it. You know what I mean? But, like, full on nude. I couldn't tell you the last time I took a full on nude. Probably with the horse. Have you. When was the last time you sent a nude nude? I'm looking for mine. I. I know exactly what nude it was that I sent Ike into.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

Were you, like, so proud of it? It was one of those that you were like, that's so good.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

No, honestly, no, I wasn't so proud. It's just that my boobs looked great and I needed to document that as we speak. I'm looking for it right now, and I'm gonna. I'll. We can blur it out or something, you know, y', all.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

He said that you were taking nudes in New York City.

[Kale Lowry]

Yeah.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Oh, so last year I took nudes for sure, is what we're saying.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

And you sent that to him?

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Yeah, we were in a relationship at that time.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

So what was it? Just your face?

[Lindsey Chrisley]

It was like, in the mirror.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

Remember how people used to crop their heads off to, like, take nudes, too? No, it was like, no face, no case.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Never did that. Never did that.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

Wait, okay, so did you know there is a sexually transmitted ringworm that is on the right.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Guys, I'm the one that told you about that, and I have. I saved it in my phone because I'm disgusted by this because.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

But how are you sexually transmitting a ringworm? I thought the worm got on you. Like, when you get. Ringworm isn't because a worm got on you.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

It's like. I think ringworm can come from animals, like, outside. It can come from, like, wrestling match, gymnastics, stuff like that. And I think what's happening is that the ringworm is probably spreading to your genitals, and then you're spreading that to your partners. But I had seen this on Instagram, and it's. It's going in their face, in their mouth, too, because of oral.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

Oh, my. Let me see that. Oh, that is crusty.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Isn't that horrendous? Let me tell you a story about ringworm. And it's gonna piss me the up. Piss me the off while I'm talking about it. So last year, Elliot's at his dad's and the entire family gets.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

Oh, I remember this.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Yeah, the entire family gets ringworm. And I don't know about it, okay? I don't find out about it until Elliot is sent to my house. And now I'm pissed off because now you've sent my Son to my house without telling me about the ringworm. And honestly, I'm being. I'm being as respectful as I can about this. My family has never experienced it like my. We've had a hand, foot and mouth. Of course, we've had that already. Not the whole family, just Lux and Creed. But the. The ringworm thing pissed me the off because your. Your whole family has it. So at that point, you have an obligation to keep Elliot over. Everybody's healed. Do not send him over to my house so that my entire family can get it when I, at the time, I had one year olds. So I'm pissed off. Leave him over there. Let him heal. Elliot to this day has massive scars because it turned the ringworm turned to staph infection.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

But how does ringworm get that bad? I mean, what I just saw on that photo looks like scabies or whatever they call it. I had ringworm when I was a little girl, and my nanny told me that it came from cat's butthole holes.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Well, that's how Elliot's family got it. They got it from a cat from their butthole. I don't know about that, but I know it came from the cat. They had adopted a cap.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

I mean, you and I operate very differently than that. Like, if there's some kind of illness that's going on in my house, keep

[Lindsey Chrisley]

the kid over there.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

I'm just gonna keep him. Or vice versa. I don't want it coming to my house. So if you have it and I haven't got it yet, don't want it, keep it at your house.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Okay, so. Well, that brings us to foul play, and this is a long one, so buckle up. Okay? Okay. Hey, ladies. I love your podcast and I'm honestly not sure which story I should share because I have a few juicy ones. But I'll start with this one about my ex husband. A little backstory. I met him when I was 21, so too young to be making such big decisions. And I also have some daddy issues that caused me to turn a blind eye to so many red flags.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

Don't we all?

[Lindsey Chrisley]

I'm now 33 and in a much better place. Now to the story. It was March 2015, and the night before my ex and I were supposed to fly from Michigan to Seattle to visit some of his family. We worked opposite shifts. He worked overnight as a security guard at a hotel, and I was working days in a retail job. As soon as I got home, he left for work and I was home with his daughter. Not ours, just his After I fed her dinner and got her into bed, I get on my laptop. I get on my laptop to kill some time. I think most women have a sixth sense about certain things and my gut was telling me to check the browser history. When I did that, it showed me so many links to Craigslist and my ex's email house. After my quick investigation, I learned that he had put dick pics on Craigslist and was looking for men to come over to give him blow jobs. The pictures clearly showed our bedroom in the background of the house that we had just moved into a few months prior. I calmly called. I calmly called him and asked him if we could go somewhere private so we could talk. Once he said he was done, I lost it. I asked him what the he was doing and confronted him with all my evidence. I had him red handed and he still tried to lie his way out of it. It insert eye roll. He swore it wasn't him, that it was his ex putting old pictures up trying to frame him. I screamed, that is our bedroom. That is our bedroom in the background. How stupid do you think I am? He then told me he needed to get back to work and he could call me later. A few hours later, he called me, letting me know that during this time in the in the army, if he wasn't able to get any action with a woman, he'd go visit the only gay guy in the unit willing to suck him off. Willing to literally suck off anyone.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

Like, I don't care if I'm a man and I have a callous hand. I would rub one out before I did that.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

That men will a pie like, you know, you can go get some somewhere and it doesn't have to be from a man. Unless you're gay.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

Yeah, exactly.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

He swore he wasn't gay or even bi. He just enjoyed the attention. And it's easier to get a blowjob from a guy than it is from a woman. And he was horny while I was at work. Well, this is an impulse problem. This is a, this is a, an impulse problem. If that's the case, I was seeing red and was ready to cancel our trip for the next day and move my out. He begged me and cried for me not to cancel the trip and leave him. He swore he was sorry and this would never happen again. We know, we all know the usual lies young women tend to fall for. We went on the trip and things were good for a little while. But the entire relationship was one hell of a learning lesson. I'm grateful to be out of this wasn't even the first time he had broken my trust by talking to other people on the Internet. And it wasn't the last. My dumbass even married the idiot. After this incident, I could and would be happy to share so many more stories of our time together. Thank you for reading and I hope you enjoyed my foolishness.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

Okay, I have a couple of points that I want to make on this. Number one, somebody Violet taking a dick pic and posting it on Craigslist is wild work. Like, as it is. But like, doing it in your bedroom where you're intimate with your partner and then putting like that on Craigslist is so foul to me and such a level of betrayal. I would never get over that. Being in the army and just getting your dick sucked by, you know, Joe down the road is weird.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Here's the thing. Straight men, and I read this on a post too that I saw online on coffee combo specifically, straight men are not going to go look for men to do those things. Right? Like I would imagine a straight man who is that horny and has no impulse control is going to find a stripper, a hooker, a prostitute to that is a woman. They're not going to result or like

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

a robin dog, you know, they're not

[Lindsey Chrisley]

going to resort to men unless they're gay and they have a like, an issue with it.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

What if he was bi?

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Curious for that or that.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

But.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

And there's nothing wrong with that, but I think that needs to be like, an open conversation because life is not black and white. So like, if my partner came to me, I'm not shaming that. If they came to me in an open and honest way, I'm not shaming

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

them and said that they got sucked off by a guy.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

No. That they had, like, curiosity. Oh, if they're like, no, I am like a little curious of the opposite. Like, I'm not gonna shame you for that because one, you're being honest with me and two, like, you're not mistaking my kindness for weakness. You know what I'm saying? Like, you trust me enough. I trust you enough. Even if my man came to me and I was like. And said that to me, I'm not. Even if I wasn't bisexual, I would not shame them. I'd be like, okay, like, I don't think that we can be together, but, like, I want to support you through this. It's more so what I mean, it

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

is because you're fluid Would if your

[Lindsey Chrisley]

man came to you and said, I think I'm bi, Curious. You're not gonna.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

Well, I'm strictly dickly, so take your bi curious somewhere else.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

That's what I'm saying. But you're not gonna be like, I hate your guts. You're gonna be like, okay, that's fine, but go. Go figure that out without me.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

Yes.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

You're not gonna be like, you. You're the bane of my existence. I hate your guts. It's gonna be. That is.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

I mean, I don't know, because now you've wasted my time. Time, like, at that point.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

But you're not shaming him for being high or gay. No, that's what I'm getting.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

No, that would not be.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

It's more so about wasting my time.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

More of like, you've wasted my time. You've been me and ducking and doing all this for however long we've been doing it.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Right.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

And now all of a sudden, you just want to go get your dick sucked by a man. Like, I don't.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

No. And I would. I would be frustrated with the time, like, the. The time that I wasted, but I would not be frustrated that the person is bisexual or gay. Like, that part of it would not bother me.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

Yeah, that's not what I'm saying.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

I'm saying that I'm clarifying for the listeners.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

Yeah, okay.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

But, yeah, no, we're on the same page there. Because I'd be like, well, now we're like, three years in and you're gay. Like, Like. But, like, I also will help you through this.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

I mean, I think three years in and then all of a sudden finding that out. Well, I guess depending on the age is, like, kind of wild work as well. But I just. I would never. I couldn't do it fair. I know you could.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Yeah. But I would also. Again, the time wasted would be upsetting. But everything else is like, all right, we'll figure this out. Like, I would feel, truthfully, and I think I've said this before, I would rather my man come to me and say, I think I want to get my dick stuck by a man. And I would be like, great. I have no competition. I'm not worried about.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

I mean, I can't compete with the dick.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

Exactly.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

You know, so.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

So my feelings are not hurt. It's not that you're not attracted to me, it's just. Just that you don't like women.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

Honestly, I've always said, if somebody is going to cheat on me, please do it with a man. Because I can't compete with dick.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

No. And I'm too insecure. To be fighting over with a woman about this. Like, I can't. I don't have it in me. I'm. I'll cry myself to sleep, but if it's a man. Thank you. Thank you so much.

[Lindsey Chrisley (Ghost/Alternate Persona)]

We're wasting time. Thank you for always supporting our show. Please subscribe and review on the Apple Podcast app, follow and rate on Spotify, or listen wherever you get your pods. For our latest merch, visit CoffeeConvos podcast.com to show shop. Full Video Episodes are Our full video episodes are available on Kale's [e-mail] klow Please don't forget to follow us on Instagram and join our Facebook group to connect with us and our community. We hope you guys have a great week and we'll talk to you soon.

[Lindsey Chrisley]

See ya.

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