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In this episode, I’m joined by Isaac Hill — occultist, astrologer, musician, gardener, and co-host of the always-fascinating Plant Cunning Podcast. Isaac lives on an herb farm in Central New York State with his wife, AC, and together they have interviewed some of the most important herbalists, occultists, astrologers, and permaculturists working today. He is also the author of The Heathen Golden Dawn and his new book, The Zodiac Garden Guide, which we discuss in this episode.

In our conversation, we talk about what it means to create a zodiac garden - not simply as a list of plant correspondences, but as an intersection of astrology, plants, place, magic, and the intelligence of the garden itself. (A garden as an astrological talisman, in a sense.) Isaac shares how he came to astrology through tarot, music, astrological magic, and permaculture, and we explore tropical and sidereal astrology, plant correspondences, and the balance between magical perception and practical gardening knowledge.

This year's Plant Cunning Conference will be happening July 24–26, 2026, on AC and Isaac’s land in Central New York State. Sadly I won’t be there this year because I’ll be traveling, but I was grateful to present and attend in previous years, and I highly recommend checking it out if you can make it — or visiting the Plant Cunning website and podcast either way, to learn more.

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Find Isaac Hill online -

Buy the Zodiac Garden Guide: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0GW7F2KRP
Plant Cunning Podcast on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/plantcunning/
The Plant Cunning Conference: https://plantcunningconference.com/
The Plant Cunning Podcast on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@plantcunning

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